Thank you for the up loading this. Brings back good memories. Love these first generation monster trucks. That were base off of factory truck chassis and leaf spring suspension.
@@TJ-qz6hr I would love to see or hear a interview with Scott about the 1990 TNT days and his thoughts and issues with Bigfoot. Back Channel Productions was suppose to have done a interview, but I think something happened with the audio.
Wayne Norbrey, Jr I’ve never found anything on that but I read somewhere he went straight to Bob Chandler and was whining about it. He was just a sore loser, he had excuses for everything.
I was there for this, 6 years old at that time. Thanks for uploading it. Also they need to do a figure 8 course again and a 3 wide drag race again. Those are cool courses.
Old Garry Porter, he signed my toy Grave Digger when I was five years old when I went to see Monster Jam in 2004 at the looooooong gone Mellon Arena. I had no idea he drove another truck before Grave Digger!
That run by CAROLINA CRUSHER was crazy, this whole course was crazy and Scott Stephens said it right when he said that the driver's were somewhat scared about the speeds, and literally driving at the crowd.
1990 TNT Monster Trucks (Hypothetical) Points Standings (After Race 21 TV/YT): 1 Bigfoot - Andy Brass/John Piant 107 2 Equalizer - D.Morris/G.Holbrook/M.Wine 93 3 Auto Value King Krunch - Scott Stephens 76 4 Carolina Crusher - Gary Porter 67 5 Awesome Kong - Steve Cain 62 6 USA-1 - Steve Wilke 53 7 Night Life - Dave Weiczoreck 48 Gravedigger - Dennis Anderson 48 9 Jersey Outlaw - Mike Wine 40 10 Buffalo Tremor II - Johnny Kwasniewski 39 11 Clydesdale - Bennett Clark 38 12 No Problem - John Moore 29 13 Wild Hair - Marvin Smith 26 14 Master of Disaster - Doug Spanier 21 15 Mad Dog - Jon Breen/Bob Breen 20 Thunder Chicken - Kid Rerig/Karen Pensyl 20 17 Tuff e' Nuff - Pablo Cruz 17 Whiskey Business - Ken Deppe 17 Mopar Magic - Gary Wiggins 17 20 Pony Express - Anthony Fortier 12 21 Micro Machines - Kurt Fisher 7 22 Liquidator - Bob Fisher 6 23 Bearly Tame - Kevin Dabney 5 Playin' for Keeps - Jessie Birgey 5 Fanatic - Arlene Edd 5 26 Barbarian - Jim Miller 4 Star Monster - Chris Tuffley 4 28 Rocky Mountain Thunder - Nick Jackson 3 Troublemaker - Jody Peterson 3 Rocky Mountain High - John Valdez 3 31 Bad News - Norman Meyers 1 32 4-Wheel Crazy - Rob Morris 0
question for you do you by chance know how they give points out? id like to know where they come from. also are the fastest losers times from qualifying or the losing race thanks
@@suleimancarvajal7657 These are good questions. First, there have been a few theories out there for how points were divvied out based on the event, but there has never been a consistent result that has proven to match up with the standings listed on the tv episodes. This is why I created the hypothetical points system. If you are referencing the points I posted, I am happy to share how it works with you. It is objective and easily trackable. Second, the trucks/drivers who earned fast loser births into the next round in this series were based on their times run in the previous round and not from qualifying. Thanks for your interest!
@@MisterGravelramaoh that's awesome and yeah id like to see how they are divided up this way also. The points never have been explained in the show it just was like here they are how do they get them idk trust us lol.
@@suleimancarvajal7657 After multiple attempts and iterations, basic was determined to be best. Round Racing = +1, Wins = +2, Event Champion = +3. This correlated to the same mentality of wanting to line up to race even when not at full strength, earning fast qualifier and therefore a bye run/win, and ultimately being the king of the monster trucks in a night's show for the crowd as the only way to get a bonus. 80's values that are simple, objective, and easily trackable. Had they adopted this system in reality, it would have made for a much more entertaining and dramatic season. Follow in real time and keep up and the evidence is there. Or lean on the standings they post which are not trackable and incredibly inconsistent. Hence, the hypothetical points series. Enjoy!
As far as doing real racing I don't think that will ever happen. Parts for these things are pretty hard to find. Plus safety is a issue. These guys got beat up bad physically
Andy Brass clearly was a better driver than John Piant in Bigfoot, why they didn't just let him drive Bigfoot 4 until Bigfoot 8 was cleared to return is beyond me
True. But to be fair to John, he was very new at the time. I think the reason he ran some TNT events was because they probably didn't trust a rookie with BF8, and BF8 had to replace the non-TNT events that BF4 was pulled from.
@@Skip1989 because at the time it was in a league of its own. They banned it to give everyone else time to upgrade their equipment and catch up. Bf8 was a tube frame, with 20" travel 4 link suspension. Everyone else ran the straight rail frame leaf spring suspension with just a few inches of travel. When bf 8 came out it was a game changer, everything had to change in monster trucks. Bf8 is the reason you see what we have today in the monster truck sport.
Yep. Danny Tesso (Tesson?) ran a supercharged 350 small block in Star Monster. He didn't run on the TNT series too often, but he held his own pretty well.
Man I swear we need different classes of monster trucks they already have stages so why don't they start putting on stage 1 stage 2 and stage 3 shows 🤔
They kind of have stage 1 shows now that a lot of those old trucks have stared being restored they'll pop up every now and then at events to do a car crush which is pretty cool. I doubt we'll ever see a ''Stage 2 league'' though. As awesome as I think that would be a huge part of why Monster trucks evolved the way they did is because these stage 2's were so rough on the drivers ''as they talk about at 40:33'' that they were literally tearing muscles, bruising kidneys and tearing tendons in these high speed races, the extra suspension travel in the stage 3 trucks mostly mitigates these issues, so it comes down to safety issue.
I'm loving these videos, takes me back to bein a kid, simpler times!
I like watching these vids that bring back memories. They will never get old to watch.
It's sad that this joint is gone now. R.I.P. Louisville Motor Speedway
Need to bring the old trucks back for a special event, or anything. Would kill to see these trucks again.
theres a tnt unfinshed bussiness event coming up
i like the Nintendo sponsor spot. that was old skool awesome :D
Thank you for the up loading this. Brings back good memories. Love these first generation monster trucks. That were base off of factory truck chassis and leaf spring suspension.
Bigfoot 4, and Andy Brass...what a combo!
Made Scott Stephens eat those words he said about Bigfoot at the Irving, Tx show.
Wayne Norbrey, Jr Lol, no doubt!
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I would love to see or hear a interview with Scott about the 1990 TNT days and his thoughts and issues with Bigfoot. Back Channel Productions was suppose to have done a interview, but I think something happened with the audio.
Wayne Norbrey, Jr I’ve never found anything on that but I read somewhere he went straight to Bob Chandler and was whining about it. He was just a sore loser, he had excuses for everything.
@@TJ-qz6hr
Back Channel Productions had a interview, but it was never released.
I wouldnt mind having one of theses old school monster trucks sitting in front of my house lol.
I was there for this, 6 years old at that time. Thanks for uploading it. Also they need to do a figure 8 course again and a 3 wide drag race again. Those are cool courses.
They still do figure 8 tracks...not as good as the old days though.
Holy shit! Scott Douglas? He goes way back, huh? Nice hair, young Scott.
Back when good ole Scott had hair...
I love those 1990 suspensions so much !!! Bouncin & NOT BEHAVIN
Old Garry Porter, he signed my toy Grave Digger when I was five years old when I went to see Monster Jam in 2004 at the looooooong gone Mellon Arena. I had no idea he drove another truck before Grave Digger!
Carolina Crusher was his pride and joy before Gary Porter joined Team Grave Digger
That run by CAROLINA CRUSHER was crazy, this whole course was crazy and Scott Stephens said it right when he said that the driver's were somewhat scared about the speeds, and literally driving at the crowd.
1990 TNT Monster Trucks (Hypothetical) Points Standings (After Race 21 TV/YT):
1 Bigfoot - Andy Brass/John Piant 107
2 Equalizer - D.Morris/G.Holbrook/M.Wine 93
3 Auto Value King Krunch - Scott Stephens 76
4 Carolina Crusher - Gary Porter 67
5 Awesome Kong - Steve Cain 62
6 USA-1 - Steve Wilke 53
7 Night Life - Dave Weiczoreck 48
Gravedigger - Dennis Anderson 48
9 Jersey Outlaw - Mike Wine 40
10 Buffalo Tremor II - Johnny Kwasniewski 39
11 Clydesdale - Bennett Clark 38
12 No Problem - John Moore 29
13 Wild Hair - Marvin Smith 26
14 Master of Disaster - Doug Spanier 21
15 Mad Dog - Jon Breen/Bob Breen 20
Thunder Chicken - Kid Rerig/Karen Pensyl 20
17 Tuff e' Nuff - Pablo Cruz 17
Whiskey Business - Ken Deppe 17
Mopar Magic - Gary Wiggins 17
20 Pony Express - Anthony Fortier 12
21 Micro Machines - Kurt Fisher 7
22 Liquidator - Bob Fisher 6
23 Bearly Tame - Kevin Dabney 5
Playin' for Keeps - Jessie Birgey 5
Fanatic - Arlene Edd 5
26 Barbarian - Jim Miller 4
Star Monster - Chris Tuffley 4
28 Rocky Mountain Thunder - Nick Jackson 3
Troublemaker - Jody Peterson 3
Rocky Mountain High - John Valdez 3
31 Bad News - Norman Meyers 1
32 4-Wheel Crazy - Rob Morris 0
question for you do you by chance know how they give points out? id like to know where they come from. also are the fastest losers times from qualifying or the losing race thanks
@@suleimancarvajal7657 These are good questions. First, there have been a few theories out there for how points were divvied out based on the event, but there has never been a consistent result that has proven to match up with the standings listed on the tv episodes. This is why I created the hypothetical points system. If you are referencing the points I posted, I am happy to share how it works with you. It is objective and easily trackable. Second, the trucks/drivers who earned fast loser births into the next round in this series were based on their times run in the previous round and not from qualifying. Thanks for your interest!
@@MisterGravelramaoh that's awesome and yeah id like to see how they are divided up this way also. The points never have been explained in the show it just was like here they are how do they get them idk trust us lol.
@@suleimancarvajal7657 After multiple attempts and iterations, basic was determined to be best. Round Racing = +1, Wins = +2, Event Champion = +3. This correlated to the same mentality of wanting to line up to race even when not at full strength, earning fast qualifier and therefore a bye run/win, and ultimately being the king of the monster trucks in a night's show for the crowd as the only way to get a bonus. 80's values that are simple, objective, and easily trackable. Had they adopted this system in reality, it would have made for a much more entertaining and dramatic season. Follow in real time and keep up and the evidence is there. Or lean on the standings they post which are not trackable and incredibly inconsistent. Hence, the hypothetical points series. Enjoy!
@@MisterGravelrama that's awesome thanks a lot it makes a lot of sense
I would love to see monster jam do this with today's trucks for TV airing
Bigfoot👍
19:00 *Morty* - "Aww gee Rick, we just hurt the suspension again, little intimidated by the speed, aw man"
This is Amazing
Omg, my childhood was fucking awesome!
Glory Days of LMS
To bad we couldn't do a gofundme just to get the oldschool trucks back
Good idea.
Excellent idea
As far as doing real racing I don't think that will ever happen. Parts for these things are pretty hard to find. Plus safety is a issue. These guys got beat up bad physically
Andy Brass clearly was a better driver than John Piant in Bigfoot, why they didn't just let him drive Bigfoot 4 until Bigfoot 8 was cleared to return is beyond me
True. But to be fair to John, he was very new at the time. I think the reason he ran some TNT events was because they probably didn't trust a rookie with BF8, and BF8 had to replace the non-TNT events that BF4 was pulled from.
My question, why was Bigfoot 8 banned from competition?
@@Skip1989 because at the time it was in a league of its own. They banned it to give everyone else time to upgrade their equipment and catch up. Bf8 was a tube frame, with 20" travel 4 link suspension. Everyone else ran the straight rail frame leaf spring suspension with just a few inches of travel.
When bf 8 came out it was a game changer, everything had to change in monster trucks. Bf8 is the reason you see what we have today in the monster truck sport.
They didn't put Brass in 4 because he was campaigning 8 on the west coast to work the bugs out.
He was still touring with 8
Did they say SMALL block in Star Monster?
Yep. Danny Tesso (Tesson?) ran a supercharged 350 small block in Star Monster. He didn't run on the TNT series too often, but he held his own pretty well.
So I noticed that this is the same event that was on Trucks and Tractor Power,but with a lot of stuff cut out.
Man I swear we need different classes of monster trucks they already have stages so why don't they start putting on stage 1 stage 2 and stage 3 shows 🤔
They kind of have stage 1 shows now that a lot of those old trucks have stared being restored they'll pop up every now and then at events to do a car crush which is pretty cool. I doubt we'll ever see a ''Stage 2 league'' though. As awesome as I think that would be a huge part of why Monster trucks evolved the way they did is because these stage 2's were so rough on the drivers ''as they talk about at 40:33'' that they were literally tearing muscles, bruising kidneys and tearing tendons in these high speed races, the extra suspension travel in the stage 3 trucks mostly mitigates these issues, so it comes down to safety issue.
Kris Chapman is horrible…..