DHH still appear relevant, real, grounded, inspiring innovator just as fresh like when he brought rails to the world.. 15 years to me, a whole career of full of happiness just as advertised. Thank you sir
This was absolutely wonderful. David is like the kind of person that you say, hey tell us another story and you sit down and listen and time just flies by and you can't wait for the next time. Damn this was just so good!
DHH is is the OG influencer. You can listen to the guy and his passion is contagious, if I can put it that way. People who hate on him can't do that. I can listen to him and I immediately want to finally learn Ruby and Rails.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication ! pure insight this from DHH :) and the brilliant thought of just getting back to basics .. cos that's gonna stand the test of time !
Amazing guy! I've learned so much from the Rails framework, including Active Record, MVC, migrations, and numerous principles and design patterns. truly opened my mind to look at coding in a different way. Thank you for this interview. His book, 'Getting Things Done,', 37signals
I've fallen in love with Rails after discarding my Laravel projects. Now, I can simply create things that work without constant headaches! I grew tired of updating my projects every time Laravel decided to adopt a new programming style or having to modify countless lines just to make Select2 work with Livewire. Creating a datagrid with search options often meant dealing with a hundred new files. Switching to Rails has made my life much easier. For context, I've been programming since 1998, and I'm also exhausted from dealing with all these JavaScript frameworks. Let's make programming great again!! :D
Completely agree with DHH. Typescript is a total slog to write. I actually find JS incredibly expressive and powerful. I don't enjoy writing ceremony code.
I've started really disliking it too. Even for client code. And I don't think it helps that much. Something like Rust - yeah I get it and I can appreciate it. But I think a lot of people just use Typescript so something happens when they press dot in their IDE's...
DHH talks about all the unnecessary processing, overhead and complexity and waste in building a web app and that is true. If there is one thing that I see with Ruby and Rails is change over time. Every release is an effort for the better and that is necessary to improve. Recognizing yes its good but it is worth the effort to change it and release a new version. DHH thoughts and comments about the web and computing are so interesting and have merit. However there are unnecessary expletives that come with it that are overhead and waste. We need a need of revision of his spoken language, "DHH Words 2.0" a new release for the better.
@DHH you are so smart but Apple thing was really something that was obvious for long time... if we invested all this energy in Linux, we would be so much ahead now and not under government control
Bear in mind DHH is a business man first and a coder second....Promoting RoR and its eco system tech is on his top list which might skew his consideration for other tech. I wouldn't take all his technical opinions to heart.
I always hated apple. windows & linux r good enough and the hardware u get which is cheaper and more powerful than expensive mac .. It is sad that ruby on rails has no love for windows Maybe things will change in the future.
@@poulticegeist RoR needs a lot of configurations to make it stable for development, and it is slow . There is a better way to develop ror in windows,and that is wsl , but this is linux in windows not windows. Everyone knows ror' creator "DHH" doesn't like windows , so that's what i mean "no love for windows"
Interesting interview but it could be a lot shorter ... after all the repetitions and all the acid opinionated parts you can distill valuable things in maybe 10 minutes
By the way, Stimulus has a lot of transitory dependencies ... it's not just a single simple dependency as he mentioned ... and on top of that he compared it with the NON transitory dependencies number on Campfire to brag about it ... that makes no sense ...that's unfair ... Campfire was also a lot of transitory dependencies and it's made with Ruby ... anyway it's just one "opinion" more after all, the rest is very valuable
1. Right now Laravel is stealing the thunder from Rails. Laravel is the one innovating in the space. 2. Next.js stole the prototyping space for start ups from Ruby on Rails and is way faster than Rails. 3. within Ruby ecosystem Rails remains dominant but there are superior options to make webapps, like Hanami, Roda, rage, agoo.and the "but they don't have the ecosystem" is not really a valid criticism anymore because it is easy to adapt the rails ecosystem to the other alternatives.
What is this dude even talking about?😂 I know he is respected and so on but why is he constantly repeating that for some reason javascript code will stop running in a few years, javascript is stable and will not break so can somebody explain this to him? Also all the hate about bundlers and package managers and packages like is-odd which is more like a meme and nobody will really use it once out of the learning phase, the numbers on these packages will always be high because of nonsense tutorials. Also a nobundler world is just wishful thinking, what he gets extremely wrong here is thinking bundlers are only here to transpile js but this is wrong, like the name says it does trough a plugin system many things outside javascript as well, it does things like moving files around, rewriting them do stuff with other file formats before compiling my javascript, he is not only out of touch he is wrong 1000%.
He's talking about how all of the stop gaps to get these things working well in the past, aren't 100% necessary any more, import-maps and updates to HTTP being a big reason for this. With these changes no-build/no bundle is 100% viable way to build a fully featured Web app. Just like most things in programming, there are trade offs to both build and no-build, you just have to weigh up what you think works best for you.
He was saying the packing/transpiling isn't needed anymore since a lot of es6 features are supported in browsers these days. back in the days of webpack that wasn't the case and those days sucked since webpack used to break all the time... The challenge is we've added all this complexity to the apps over the year, and that complexity means there's a lot of vectors that have to line up for everything to continue to work.
It sucked for you. Ruby on Rails has been paying my bills and keeping me away from stupid implementations made by people in other programming languages.
DHH is also a great teacher! Love his enthusiasm decades dedicated for both business and open source!
We need more DHH in this world. The world would be a better place!
I literally watch DHH interviews to learn new words and English idioms. He never fails to deliver.
Same here🥰
You need to listen to a Stephen Fry interview, it'll be like going from no-code to C++ of English
Lol @@nomads_._land
Being a non native english speaker he does very well.
Absolutely nuts! One of the best interviews ive ever seen.
DHH still appear relevant, real, grounded, inspiring innovator just as fresh like when he brought rails to the world.. 15 years to me, a whole career of full of happiness just as advertised. Thank you sir
This was absolutely wonderful. David is like the kind of person that you say, hey tell us another story and you sit down and listen and time just flies by and you can't wait for the next time. Damn this was just so good!
His philosophy on web and computing are so aligned with mine. So glad someone else sees the cloud as a black hole like I do.
DHH is is the OG influencer. You can listen to the guy and his passion is contagious, if I can put it that way. People who hate on him can't do that. I can listen to him and I immediately want to finally learn Ruby and Rails.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication !
pure insight this from DHH :)
and the brilliant thought of just getting back to basics .. cos that's gonna stand the test of time !
Agree with DHH on the thought police. God forbid they get control of DNS servers or worse. Great interview guys.
ICANN HO is in Cali...
I've had that exact experience of walking back to a project with webpack after a year or two and nothing worked. Brutal and horrible feeling
20:03 amen to Ruby’s meta-programming awesomeness! Nothing compares! That combined with method blocks (which I think Groovy also has)
DHH gradually descends into Gilbert Gottfried during the podcast
It's truly a marvel to watch. When he starts yelling about H1s it kills me
Amazing guy! I've learned so much from the Rails framework, including Active Record, MVC, migrations, and numerous principles and design patterns. truly opened my mind to look at coding in a different way. Thank you for this interview. His book, 'Getting Things Done,', 37signals
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bravo guys!, really good interview, you guys asked really good questions and let David speak, he's so inspiring to listen to, 10/10 👏👏👏.
I love hearing DHH ranting
@devtoolsfm Great Podcast with DHH. I am beginning to learn Ruby as my first programming language.
Dhh ui designs are amazing...I am amazed..he is very close to perfect...
I've fallen in love with Rails after discarding my Laravel projects. Now, I can simply create things that work without constant headaches! I grew tired of updating my projects every time Laravel decided to adopt a new programming style or having to modify countless lines just to make Select2 work with Livewire. Creating a datagrid with search options often meant dealing with a hundred new files. Switching to Rails has made my life much easier.
For context, I've been programming since 1998, and I'm also exhausted from dealing with all these JavaScript frameworks.
Let's make programming great again!! :D
Completely agree with DHH. Typescript is a total slog to write. I actually find JS incredibly expressive and powerful. I don't enjoy writing ceremony code.
I've started really disliking it too. Even for client code. And I don't think it helps that much. Something like Rust - yeah I get it and I can appreciate it. But I think a lot of people just use Typescript so something happens when they press dot in their IDE's...
Could listen to DHH all day long.
DHH goes hard in the paint!
TEXTMATE FTW!!!!!!!!!!
"I came, I saw, I bundled then I Ieft"🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a great interview! Thanks for sharing it 😊
I can listen to this guy all day lol
DHH on typescript: Yeah a dog barfed it up but ... yada yada yada😝
I personally enjoy the aesthetic of the dog barf. But to each their own!
@@devtoolsfm cheers!👍
Hadn't laughed that hard in a while 😂 Glorious!
Anyone else still using Ruby on Rails?
Yeah! Github, Airbnb, Stripe, Shopify...
Yep. 10 years and counting. Glad I did not switch to anything else - even I was tempted to switch in the past.
I work with it since 2009 best decision ever, ...and yes market is good 💰
yes and using the current versions of ruby and rails. I love it
I’m building a brand new product with it.
Didn't think of the cloud dependency loophole like he described previously
Great video!
C'mon, ur not that old. And young in your heart, that's what matters anyway.
I didn't know Gerald Undone did coding stuff. But it makes sense, smart guy.
Alternative title: Cloud as an aversion to computers
DHH talks about all the unnecessary processing, overhead and complexity and waste in building a web app and that is true. If there is one thing that I see with Ruby and Rails is change over time. Every release is an effort for the better and that is necessary to improve. Recognizing yes its good but it is worth the effort to change it and release a new version. DHH thoughts and comments about the web and computing are so interesting and have merit. However there are unnecessary expletives that come with it that are overhead and waste. We need a need of revision of his spoken language, "DHH Words 2.0" a new release for the better.
DHH if fckn awesome!
Mechanical keyboards are the best.
Someone tell this guy that Apple has already reversed their decision re PWA
I want DHH to switch to VSCodium and make fun of vim users (mostly Primeagen) for its poor usability. That'd be fun contents to watch (from both ends)
If you read DHH's Hey World posts from the past few months, you'll see he's been using neovim exclusively and absolutely loving it!
Agree entirely with your coding philosophy
@DHH you are so smart but Apple thing was really something that was obvious for long time... if we invested all this energy in Linux, we would be so much ahead now and not under government control
There's no faster way to get to a working crud app with user auth than with rails.. literally a couple scaffolding commands
I do find it strange to be so focused on code aesthetics. Seems counter to what dhh seems to represent about focus on shipping
He may be missing a few critical details on the Canadian Trucker protest
Bear in mind DHH is a business man first and a coder second....Promoting RoR and its eco system tech is on his top list which might skew his consideration for other tech.
I wouldn't take all his technical opinions to heart.
I was once told, honest people like to swear, and that fucking dude is create, even there is some parts I don't agree with him.
Yay 🎉 no bundlers
Caring about beauty yet considering JS as a beautiful language….
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Aren't gems dependencies?
ruby feels neat, but whats not cool is all these monkey patching is making debugging a pain in the A$$
You will own nothing and you will he happy
I always hated apple.
windows & linux r good enough and the hardware u get which is cheaper and more powerful than expensive mac ..
It is sad that ruby on rails has no love for windows
Maybe things will change in the future.
Wdym Ruby on rails has no love for windows. It runs just fine
@@poulticegeist RoR needs a lot of configurations to make it stable for development, and it is slow .
There is a better way to develop ror in windows,and that is wsl , but this is linux in windows not windows.
Everyone knows ror' creator "DHH" doesn't like windows , so that's what i mean "no love for windows"
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No build, no break 😂
this dude is hilarious
Interesting interview but it could be a lot shorter ... after all the repetitions and all the acid opinionated parts you can distill valuable things in maybe 10 minutes
By the way, Stimulus has a lot of transitory dependencies ... it's not just a single simple dependency as he mentioned ... and on top of that he compared it with the NON transitory dependencies number on Campfire to brag about it ... that makes no sense ...that's unfair ... Campfire was also a lot of transitory dependencies and it's made with Ruby ... anyway it's just one "opinion" more after all, the rest is very valuable
he loves to brag about how rich he is...but cant bother to see a dentist. #gross
1. Right now Laravel is stealing the thunder from Rails. Laravel is the one innovating in the space.
2. Next.js stole the prototyping space for start ups from Ruby on Rails and is way faster than Rails.
3. within Ruby ecosystem Rails remains dominant but there are superior options to make webapps, like Hanami, Roda, rage, agoo.and the "but they don't have the ecosystem" is not really a valid criticism anymore because it is easy to adapt the rails ecosystem to the other alternatives.
absolutely abstracting talking
What is this dude even talking about?😂 I know he is respected and so on but why is he constantly repeating that for some reason javascript code will stop running in a few years, javascript is stable and will not break so can somebody explain this to him? Also all the hate about bundlers and package managers and packages like is-odd which is more like a meme and nobody will really use it once out of the learning phase, the numbers on these packages will always be high because of nonsense tutorials. Also a nobundler world is just wishful thinking, what he gets extremely wrong here is thinking bundlers are only here to transpile js but this is wrong, like the name says it does trough a plugin system many things outside javascript as well, it does things like moving files around, rewriting them do stuff with other file formats before compiling my javascript, he is not only out of touch he is wrong 1000%.
I believe his point was about developing and trying to run an old project
Remind me how one troll took down most of other packages in npm. And and constant crypto and malware in js.
He's talking about how all of the stop gaps to get these things working well in the past, aren't 100% necessary any more, import-maps and updates to HTTP being a big reason for this. With these changes no-build/no bundle is 100% viable way to build a fully featured Web app.
Just like most things in programming, there are trade offs to both build and no-build, you just have to weigh up what you think works best for you.
@@LucasAlexKWorks like a charm if you know what you are doing.
He was saying the packing/transpiling isn't needed anymore since a lot of es6 features are supported in browsers these days. back in the days of webpack that wasn't the case and those days sucked since webpack used to break all the time...
The challenge is we've added all this complexity to the apps over the year, and that complexity means there's a lot of vectors that have to line up for everything to continue to work.
Ruby on Rails sucks
It sucked for you. Ruby on Rails has been paying my bills and keeping me away from stupid implementations made by people in other programming languages.
hmmm thought provoking.
cos you cannot code
Why it sucks ? The reason ?
Why / how does it suck?