Today an obese electric bicycle operator was shredding at an excessive speed weaving from side to side as he passed elderly pedestrians on the Baldwin Rail Trail. These people ruin it for the rest of us.
Sorry dude.... but trail does not cover the regulation. You people really do not understand what the law functioning. Simply the trail is not the public road. In some case is true, but often trail is managed by the park management offices or organization. It means, they restrict separately. So, now I have to ask a serious question, why do you guys try to regulate E bike, because of issue in the trail? There is no reason to do that. If the restriction is really necessary, you would go to the department or office which manage your trail road, and make the rule on their. BUT, you don't have any right to regulate the E bike because of the trail issues. It MUST be reject on the issues. I'm really sick and tired to see the EMTB vs MTB situations, but do not bring that issue to the street or the other road regulation or situation.
The pandemic killed all three of my jobs and I have been a cyclist most of my life, so I bought an Ebike and sold my cars. Fast forward to today . I have a new job 3 miles from home and have been Ebiking to work regardless of the Michigan weather. The 55mph road here in my town,have bike lanes and my Ebike does 36mph, so I can keep up with city traffic. I am absolutely amazed at the old guys that rage on me. I experience vehicular intimidation on occasion and wish to understand why.
Oh gosh I’m sorry to hear what the pandemic did to you! I also lost my two jobs back then! Wow and I applaud you for doing whatever it took and got an eBike as your sole mode of transportation. I really admire people like you. I also feel safer on faster e-bikes while riding on roads with cars- so totally understand where you’re coming from! Really!? Why would the old guys rage on you? If anything they should be supportive! Wow car intimidation sucks! It’s the people that don’t like or understand e-bikes and they get nasty ugh! I’m sorry that they don’t make you feel safe at times- that must be scary. I really appreciate you chiming in, I will be having follow up videos on these topics and more. Please make sure to Subscribe to my channel- would love to have you be a part of the E Latina Family! ❤🙏🏾
Now who's throwing the insults. I'm an old guy who has dealt with the motorist intimidation and lack of knowledge of the law my whole. I was hit head on by a car and was almost killed so enough of your nonsense. It's got a motor it's a motorized vehicle the need to be regulated and licensed to keep the roads just a little more sane. And an e-bike shoudn't share the bike lanes, it's not safe or fair to the people pushing pedals. SORRY that's just dangerous. 36mph would wipe me out if I was hit. You need to get real and stop being selfish to the people who have established these bike lanes and laws for pedallers not thumb throttle vehicles. Seriously? ....
@@danielcapson9842 I said you were ignorant as far as e-bikes are concerned, that’s not an insult, that’s just reality. You did insult me. I’m sorry to hear you were hit straight on by a car and almost died sounds very scary. Of course riding an eBike on a bike path at 36 mph and that is why eBike riders need to respect the speeds of 15-20 mph on bike paths. I’ve been passed plenty of times by regular bikers on bike path going over 25 mph and I’ve never seen an irresponsible eBike rider on my bike paths. Other than that it’s the cars that are always causing problems to cyclists and pedestrians, go fight elsewhere where the real problem lies…
@@electrifiedlatina6871 "Need to" but in my experience they don't and won't and there in lies the problem. Yours is not reality it's purely an opinion. There was no science gathered to come to you conclusion. You felt attacked and that's probably something that happened to you in the past and had nothing to do with what I said. Doctors would call this projection. E-bikes are not bikes, by definition they are motorcycles (cycle with a motor attached to propel) and don't belong in the same space a bicycles. Could you at least make your argument sensible and based on reality. Thanks.
There should be room for both regular bikes and ebikes, both can be respectful or irresponsible. I’ve ridden both and have seen bad riders on both. The reality is that ebikes have become very popular and help with mobility for many seniors as well as a mode of transportation taking the place of cars. So, hopefully regular bike riders and ebike riders can appreciate each other. My worry, is the crazy motorcycle riders who weave in and out of traffic. An accident waiting to happen.
I finished reading an article that say proposed is the US adopt European ebike laws which limit ebike speeds to 15.5 mph and small wattage motors. Besides some crazy ebike riders, maybe part of the problem are newer ebikes with big motors to go 30, 40 or more mph, far exceeding class 3 and 750 watt limits. Hopefully we will not end up with laws requiring registering ebikes as mopeds or motorcycles needing special licenses, insurance, and safety inspections..
Yep by me in NJ they are trying to pass a law right now that you need to register your e-bikes and have to have liability insurance for each one also! if they do that your better off just using your car to go out on short trips that you would usually use your bike to go on... It's all about getting extra $ I can ride my normal bike and go down hills just as fast as with my e-bike so we should have the same for normal bikes too then... it's crazy, it's the people in the cars that are hitting us bikers I never almost hit anything with my bikes since I was a kid it always was I almost got hit by some driver not paying attention or now on there cell phone and almost nail you! Just another set of dumb laws that are going to make many no longer get e-bikes or scooters or skateboards that are battery powered because this law I am speaking of is for not only bikes but all the battery powered stuff!
Yes, I heard about NJ too ugh! I have another video coming up this week talking about that too! What!? Insurance for EACH bike!? That is ridiculous! What a horrible way to disentivize people in riding e-bikes that are good for our planet. Soooo true it’s all the cars faults! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with all of us- I’ll be collecting information from all of you my wonderful viewers to continue this conversation with more videos on this topic… 🙏🏾
I was hit head on by a car so I know the danger exists but I've seen e-bikes in many situations going faster and doing dangerous things up and down hills and in ways non-motorized bikes could never do. A bike without a motor is a bicycle and bike with and electric motor is a motor bike, purely by definition but also by capability. They need lights and helmets. To your point anything with a motor and is not human powered should have rules and laws to protect the communities that they operate in and people who do dumb things on e-bikes should get tickets. I think road cyclists who don't obey traffic laws should also be ticketed and face possible charges if they do something that endangers other people. Don't get me started on the phone use and distracted drivers. Again the phone companies could end that up with a simple software upgrade if they really wanted to....
The proposed laws you discuss are insane. While they are at it, maybe the next thing to do is design cars with engines that can’t go faster than 55 mph….
Copied and pasted from online. Proposed California Senate Bill 961 : Vehicle; safety equipment. This bill would require certain vehicles, commencing with the 2027 model year, to be equipped with an intelligent speed limiter, as specified, that would limit the speed of the vehicle to 10 miles per hour over the speed limit.
That’s a shared path you turned onto at the 3:17 mark of the video, am I correct? I see a sign a bit later that indicates bikes are allowed. We wouldn’t call that a sidewalk up here. Area #13 has a Dyno that he tests the watts and torque of all the e-bikes he reviews. It looks similar to the Dutch portable unit I’ve saw. I don’t have a problem with children under 12 not being allowed to ride powerful e-bikes. The fatality in Key Biscayne between the 12 year old e-bike and the 66 year old woman on an acoustic bicycle isn’t going to help anyone. Up here the law is already that you must be 16 to ride an e-bike. Also any e-bike over 500 watts is only legal on private land. Happy riding
Correct Bob! This is a shared path. Correct! That fatality in FL is making big splashes! I have a video coming up on Tuesday where I’ll be talking about that news! And I agree with the minimum age requirements for riding e-bikes. Happy Riding!! 🦌
No you have to share the cost of operation on the roads and the enforcement of the laws... Sorry that would a civilized society does, we share the burden especially when we use a service that not everyone else does. Do the laws need to be clearer, yes. Do car drivers need to have the phones taken out of their hands, yes.
I live in CA & the law would be unconstitutional & unenforceable. Class 1 & 2 Ebikes are legally bicycles & not motor vehicles as defined in Federal Law. Class 3 is in the gray zone a bit going 28mph. The Dyno test would require a court order to violate the 4th Amendment on illegal searches & seizures of personal property.
Hey Steve! Sounds like you know the Law pretty good and I really appreciate you chiming in! And teaching me something new- so you don’t think they’ll be able to enforce these laws and regulations to e-bikes class 1 or 2? Or apply the apply the dyno test to any class ebike!?
Really... See the comments above. E-bikes weigh more and can go faster making them more dangerous. It's science E = m c2... It works and a heavy bike traveling a 25 mph- (class 2) will do far more damage than my 16 pound bike... Do the math, read the science and open your eyes to how the e-bikes are being ridden. I believe you have to protect the community, that's not stripping people of any rights, but I can see where you're going right the the constitution which is a document intentionally left up to interpretation so I think the greater good should be the standard.
My 2 cents is that over 20 mph or 30 kph, it should be classified as a motorized vehicle (moped/scooter). 30 kph being the max sprinting speed of a human, it's the closest thing to a natural speed limit we have.
I thought it was a really good video and I was really impressed with all the great discussions taking place in the comment section. I agree about the new troll also as discussed between you and bob k. I started feeling like that a day or so ago. Can’t say for sure, but multiple similarities. They have only been typing here for a few days, but can recall things I said from a few weeks ago. It’s kinda strange. They also know that I am actually John the videographer and that I was very cold when we filmed at the reservoir : ) Man, that was a chilly day! I still get goosebumps just thinking about it!
You know what!? I’m really impressed too with all the very smart discussions taking place in the comment section! I’m going to take note and make a follow-up video! I do have one posting on Tuesday that will be talking about the proposed laws in NJ, what happened in FL, etc.. but I just have a feeling that these conversations will continue due to what’s going on! Haha the three of us are in agreement about it! Feels so much like John rob- all the annoying/awkward/negative/relentless comments. I was laughing at the exchanges you guys had on one of my recent short videos- you put him in his place so good! I wish we could see when this weird account was created. I do have to say it had been SO nice being troll free for a few weeks haha! Thanks for chiming in my friend ❤
@electrifiedlatina6871 The account in question was created February 4th, 2024. The sentence structure and train of thought are very similar to things that we heard before.
@bobk18 I kind of hate to jump to conclusions, but I feel that way, also. The whole internet is out there, but he found his way back. He must really love this channel : ) but has a hard time expressing it.
I remember on Sesame Street that Oscar the Grouch was always a pain in the ass, but the garbage man never hauled him off. Everyone just knew that was Oscar and that was how he is. No one let Oscar the Grouch ruin their day.
United States class 1 e-bikes are the same except cut out at 20 mph As long time unassisted bicyclist and now an ebike owner I support restrictions on e-bikes above class 1.
@@SLAUGHTYBAUDFAUSTWe have the 3 classes here that permits us to go up to 28 mph. I support the 3 Classes and anything above that should be the ones getting regulated..
I’m always shocked to be reminded of Europe’s 250 watt limit! I could understand if it were a limit set for children or juveniles, for adults trying to climb hills to get to work seems unrealistic.
It's ridiculous to take the fun out of the people who buy them for leisure. Not surprising though to find another way to make money from ebike owners. What's next an ebike police on bike trails... so unfair!
Lesson is you have to keep up with the E-bike laws in your State. EVERY state is gonna be different. Right now in NY state outside of NYC we are not allowed to ride on the side walk with any electric powered bike. Well I break that law all the time because on busy streets without a bike lane its just safer to keep out of traffic. I don't think a city cop is gonna give you a ticket in that case. But I do think we in the E-bike community have to keep a heavy ear on what's happening around the country. I for one don't think its fair to have to pay to ride a damn bike.
That’s a great point David in keeping up with the ebike laws in your State! I believe here in Denver we’re not allowed on the sidewalk UNLESS there isn’t a bike lane on the street. And I absolutely agree with you in that sometimes it’s absolutely safer to ride on the sidewalks than in the streets. And NO it isn’t fair to have to pay to ride a damn bike 😡 Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us- I’ll be collecting information from you guys to continue this conversation in ongoing videos as what is happening is nuts!
But it's just NOT safer for the people on the sidewalks...and I am an ebiker. The reason these laws are happening is because people are riding 30 mph on sidewalks and near pedestrians and pedestrians are getting scared. Or they are riding 40-plus through traffic. People need to ride more responsibly. If people want to go fast and really turn it out, go out of the cities and off the sidewalks
i just commented on your other video about laws and regulations.. one thing that i will ad is how the ebikes are getting stolen.. it is a huge problem in Denver but also in Boulder.. not that the police will do anything about it.. it would be nice to have an ebike and take it to the store to pick up groceries but it is not safe.. have to worry about it get stolen and if you are driving on the road you have to worry about getting hit by a car..
I really appreciate you commenting on both my videos and I hope you Subscribed to my channel- would love for you to be a part of the E Latina Family ❤ Ugh so sad about ebike theft! And yes when riding on roads bring hit by a car is a constant worry!
they should not restrict the power or speed .. but restrict the allowed speed on a bike lane to 20 miles in city and 30 outside city (similar to cars topspeed)
@@electrifiedlatina6871 yepp.. you can drive in the city with a 1000hp car... nobody restricts the power... but you should not drive faster as city speed limits.. the same should be with these ebikes or pedelecs .. on a hilly area 250W is a joke (and mid drive are still peaking to 7 or 800w).. a hub motor with 250 sucks on a bigger hill ... these beefy dualmotor bikes are completely forbidden in Germany/ Europe... but you see them more and more (and that 250w sticker does not make it any safer)
@@electrifiedlatina6871. I think they were referring to people walking, riding, etc with ear buds or headphones on and totally bilious to their surroundings. They never hear you when you ring your bell and you don’t know what they will do next. I’m always waiting for them to take one step to the left and bam. At least that’s what I took from the comment.
@@bobk18lol that’s because you are a nice sweet person Bob- this is another Troll who just makes the same comment on another video of mine. But I like the way you think! ❤
It’s not really about cost when it comes to e-bikes versus regular cycle running costs, it’s about the speeds they can achieve and the energy involved. The energy gets exponentially bigger as these heavier bikes go faster and faster. Should motorcycles not require insurance or registration just because they are cheap transport? No, it should just be reasonable and in line with the actual dangers and real costs.
It’s not anymore dangerous to ride an ebike than a bicycle- the real danger are the cars that we share the roads with. I would agree to regulating e-bikes over class 3 speeds, but not for the 3 classes!
It sure is not. As of right now in most States there are the 3 classes of e-bikes and with class 3 it’s a 750w motor and weight doesn’t come into the equation - most legal e-bikes are over 50 pounds.
My ebike is my sole mode of transportation 9 months a year, and i just ordered a pull trailer for it. This will never happen in my small town in N Arizona. Any ebike is considered a bicycle. I dont like California numerous ridiculous laws.
Wow this is amazing Mark respect! I’m glad to hear that they won’t be able to touch your town! Amen to that”ridiculous laws in California”! Let’s hope these laws don’t pass 🤞🏻
@electrifiedlatina6871 I haven't been to California in over 20 years. I only know what I hear about it, or videos. I doubt there's 15 ebikes in this whole town. We have one bike shop here, Magnums and very high-end trek electric bikes. Out of 5 magnums they've had for 2 years, 2 were on layaway. Even though I'm over 65, I will own a Surron someday. Ride safe.
Here where I live in Michigan, we have very few bike lanes. I actually feel safer driving on the sidewalks. It is legal in my city. I have a bell on my E- Bikes so I don't give someone a heart attack when I approach them from behind. There is too much "distracted driving" in the roads and worry about getting hit by someone that does not see me. I am a very considerate driver on the sidewalks and I have not had any problems with people on the side walk that are walking. The police see me everyday and do NOT bother me at all.
So these "laws" I more like to call it brain's, and yeah the speed trap is wrong, but hay the e-riders I do not blame them at all ! I blame like you said the ones that abuse what's fun ? Uh I guess ? Oh I think the people have the right to know the laws of those laws ? Basically that's what that is and to second that law in court. Ask what's the benefit of those laws and just say nope F, off with those and that's that. But because it is like ha ha ha ha ha ha uh yes these laws stay this is Ahmarkah we don't care what you have to say. Hahahahahahahaha and that's so very true to ? Respect to everyone and good luck.
@jazzechos1372 A basic form of transportation should absolutely be free! And to make me and the millions upon millions of e-bikes riders is absolutely absurd and ridiculous! The government like always just wants to take our money with any excuse
Pay your fair share... You benefit from the roads and need to share the insurance burden with the rest of us. Stop with the recreation crap. Get a pedal bike without a motor. That's exercise that's recreation. I ride a bike on the roads without keeping up and have for 30 years. Two wrongs don't make it right. The phone companies could easily stop the texting and videos in cars, that's what we need. License plates and a riders test should be required. That way people can learn the laws and prove their ability. It's not a bicycle, it's a motorized vehicle and should be treated as such. This comes from someone who has been riding for 50 years... You are a whinny and lazy... We have an obesity issue in the US. Motorized bikes take the exercise out of the best way to move. It's sad...
What’s sad is your attitude and insults! Violating UA-cam’s community guidelines and my channel’s! You have no idea who I am or why my viewers choose to ride e-bikes! I was a triathlete training for the Olympics until I got a life threatening chronic illness and that’s how I found e-bikes! E-bikes have nothing to do with obesity! It gets people outside who otherwise would be stuck at home with illness’s elderly or injuries, of course there’s recreation too. We benefit from unsafe roads- if we pay we need increased and way better infrastructure for cyclists and e-bikes. You are so ignorant when it comes to e-bikes and have no business in an eBike channel. Buh bye!
@@electrifiedlatina6871 They give lazy Americans another reason not to move. I'm sorry about your chronic illness, but most e-bike riders are just lazy kids who don't want to work or put their bodies in motion. are e-bikes the cause of obesity, no not on their own, but the don't contribute to peoples physical activity which is the problem I have. For people with injuries or illnesses they work but even elderly people can ride bikes that don't have motors and they can benefit from the non-weight-bearing exercise in so many ways. Again, Americans need to move more without the aid of a motor and all the social demographics evidence prove this. There are no insults, lazy is lazy and that's a fact not an insult. If you can take the the constructive criticism of your point of view maybe you should get off of UA-cam. I've been riding a long time so I also know about poor infrastructure. But if other motorized vehicles require registration, licensing and insurance than that's the choice you make as part of the communities. E-bikes make the roads more dangerous speeds and the fact that people don't have to test to prove competency on the roads.
@@janieramseier5968 No Ugh... Not rude.... I'm being real. A report just came out and not only is the US an obese nation but now it's growing into a global issue. Why in heaven's name would you take exercise out of cycling? This my point people are dying at faster rates and we're taking away one of the greatest forms of exercise by putting motors on bikes. It's NUTS!
They dont check how powerful your car is. Why do they need to control the power on your bike. If there is no victim, then its not a crime.
Oh my gosh WELL SAID Rabbit!!! 100% with you!
That's the same excuse dummy trump used to explain his years of fraudulent activities.
@vibratingstring liensed driver? Idk what you are saying but there is no cap on HP numbers to drive your car/truck.
@@rabbithomesteading3797 correct!
Today an obese electric bicycle operator was shredding at an excessive speed weaving from side to side as he passed elderly pedestrians on the Baldwin Rail Trail. These people ruin it for the rest of us.
Oh my gosh this is terrible! And I 100% agree! 😨
Thanks for sharing!
Sorry dude.... but trail does not cover the regulation. You people really do not understand what the law functioning. Simply the trail is not the public road. In some case is true, but often trail is managed by the park management offices or organization. It means, they restrict separately.
So, now I have to ask a serious question, why do you guys try to regulate E bike, because of issue in the trail? There is no reason to do that. If the restriction is really necessary, you would go to the department or office which manage your trail road, and make the rule on their. BUT, you don't have any right to regulate the E bike because of the trail issues. It MUST be reject on the issues.
I'm really sick and tired to see the EMTB vs MTB situations, but do not bring that issue to the street or the other road regulation or situation.
The pandemic killed all three of my jobs and I have been a cyclist most of my life, so I bought an Ebike and sold my cars.
Fast forward to today . I have a new job 3 miles from home and have been Ebiking to work regardless of the Michigan weather.
The 55mph road here in my town,have bike lanes and my Ebike does 36mph, so I can keep up with city traffic.
I am absolutely amazed at the old guys that rage on me.
I experience vehicular intimidation on occasion and wish to understand why.
Oh gosh I’m sorry to hear what the pandemic did to you! I also lost my two jobs back then! Wow and I applaud you for doing whatever it took and got an eBike as your sole mode of transportation. I really admire people like you. I also feel safer on faster e-bikes while riding on roads with cars- so totally understand where you’re coming from!
Really!? Why would the old guys rage on you? If anything they should be supportive! Wow car intimidation sucks! It’s the people that don’t like or understand e-bikes and they get nasty ugh! I’m sorry that they don’t make you feel safe at times- that must be scary. I really appreciate you chiming in, I will be having follow up videos on these topics and more. Please make sure to Subscribe to my channel- would love to have you be a part of the E Latina Family! ❤🙏🏾
Now who's throwing the insults. I'm an old guy who has dealt with the motorist intimidation and lack of knowledge of the law my whole. I was hit head on by a car and was almost killed so enough of your nonsense. It's got a motor it's a motorized vehicle the need to be regulated and licensed to keep the roads just a little more sane. And an e-bike shoudn't share the bike lanes, it's not safe or fair to the people pushing pedals. SORRY that's just dangerous. 36mph would wipe me out if I was hit. You need to get real and stop being selfish to the people who have established these bike lanes and laws for pedallers not thumb throttle vehicles. Seriously? ....
@@danielcapson9842 I said you were ignorant as far as e-bikes are concerned, that’s not an insult, that’s just reality. You did insult me. I’m sorry to hear you were hit straight on by a car and almost died sounds very scary. Of course riding an eBike on a bike path at 36 mph and that is why eBike riders need to respect the speeds of 15-20 mph on bike paths. I’ve been passed plenty of times by regular bikers on bike path going over 25 mph and I’ve never seen an irresponsible eBike rider on my bike paths. Other than that it’s the cars that are always causing problems to cyclists and pedestrians, go fight elsewhere where the real problem lies…
@@electrifiedlatina6871 "Need to" but in my experience they don't and won't and there in lies the problem. Yours is not reality it's purely an opinion. There was no science gathered to come to you conclusion. You felt attacked and that's probably something that happened to you in the past and had nothing to do with what I said. Doctors would call this projection. E-bikes are not bikes, by definition they are motorcycles (cycle with a motor attached to propel) and don't belong in the same space a bicycles. Could you at least make your argument sensible and based on reality. Thanks.
There should be room for both regular bikes and ebikes, both can be respectful or irresponsible. I’ve ridden both and have seen bad riders on both. The reality is that ebikes have become very popular and help with mobility for many seniors as well as a mode of transportation taking the place of cars. So, hopefully regular bike riders and ebike riders can appreciate each other. My worry, is the crazy motorcycle riders who weave in and out of traffic. An accident waiting to happen.
I finished reading an article that say proposed is the US adopt European ebike laws which limit ebike speeds to 15.5 mph and small wattage motors. Besides some crazy ebike riders, maybe part of the problem are newer ebikes with big
motors to go 30, 40 or more mph, far exceeding class 3 and 750 watt limits. Hopefully we will not end up with laws requiring registering ebikes as mopeds or motorcycles needing special licenses, insurance, and safety inspections..
I find some humor in that these new powerful ebikes have, in small print, statements to be sure to obey local ebike laws.
I recently did a video on Maryland's proposed ebike legislation for 2024....Good ebike laws...rebates, vouchers, no sales tax and more
Thanks for letting me know, I’ll check it out!
There is no such thing as good regulation.
@@virginiascurti5036haha agreed!
Yep by me in NJ they are trying to pass a law right now that you need to register your e-bikes and have to have liability insurance for each one also! if they do that your better off just using your car to go out on short trips that you would usually use your bike to go on... It's all about getting extra $ I can ride my normal bike and go down hills just as fast as with my e-bike so we should have the same for normal bikes too then... it's crazy, it's the people in the cars that are hitting us bikers I never almost hit anything with my bikes since I was a kid it always was I almost got hit by some driver not paying attention or now on there cell phone and almost nail you! Just another set of dumb laws that are going to make many no longer get e-bikes or scooters or skateboards that are battery powered because this law I am speaking of is for not only bikes but all the battery powered stuff!
Yes, I heard about NJ too ugh! I have another video coming up this week talking about that too! What!? Insurance for EACH bike!? That is ridiculous! What a horrible way to disentivize people in riding e-bikes that are good for our planet. Soooo true it’s all the cars faults! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with all of us- I’ll be collecting information from all of you my wonderful viewers to continue this conversation with more videos on this topic… 🙏🏾
Almost safer to ride my Rebel 1100.
I was hit head on by a car so I know the danger exists but I've seen e-bikes in many situations going faster and doing dangerous things up and down hills and in ways non-motorized bikes could never do. A bike without a motor is a bicycle and bike with and electric motor is a motor bike, purely by definition but also by capability. They need lights and helmets. To your point anything with a motor and is not human powered should have rules and laws to protect the communities that they operate in and people who do dumb things on e-bikes should get tickets. I think road cyclists who don't obey traffic laws should also be ticketed and face possible charges if they do something that endangers other people. Don't get me started on the phone use and distracted drivers. Again the phone companies could end that up with a simple software upgrade if they really wanted to....
@@turtle19dadright!?
The proposed laws you discuss are insane. While they are at it, maybe the next thing to do is design cars with engines that can’t go faster than 55 mph….
Exactly!!!! Ugh! 😡
Thanks for chiming in ❤
Copied and pasted from online. Proposed California Senate Bill 961 : Vehicle; safety equipment. This bill would require certain vehicles, commencing with the 2027 model year, to be equipped with an intelligent speed limiter, as specified, that would limit the speed of the vehicle to 10 miles per hour over the speed limit.
@@rosetown_ Wow... signals we are all headed for a dystopian future... Ebikes are just the start.
Right!
That’s a shared path you turned onto at the 3:17 mark of the video, am I correct? I see a sign a bit later that indicates bikes are allowed. We wouldn’t call that a sidewalk up here. Area #13 has a Dyno that he tests the watts and torque of all the e-bikes he reviews. It looks similar to the Dutch portable unit I’ve saw. I don’t have a problem with children under 12 not being allowed to ride powerful e-bikes. The fatality in Key Biscayne between the 12 year old e-bike and the 66 year old woman on an acoustic bicycle isn’t going to help anyone. Up here the law is already that you must be 16 to ride an e-bike. Also any e-bike over 500 watts is only legal on private land. Happy riding
Correct Bob! This is a shared path. Correct! That fatality in FL is making big splashes! I have a video coming up on Tuesday where I’ll be talking about that news! And I agree with the minimum age requirements for riding e-bikes. Happy Riding!! 🦌
Except she unlocked her motorcycle to do 35-40 mph and now it doesnt qualify as any class of ebike so she can't ride on sidewalks.
Good Morning, nothing in New York City....YET
Good morning! And thanks much for the update! Crossing our fingers from over here!
Gotta have their dirty little gov't hands in your pocket.
No you have to share the cost of operation on the roads and the enforcement of the laws... Sorry that would a civilized society does, we share the burden especially when we use a service that not everyone else does. Do the laws need to be clearer, yes. Do car drivers need to have the phones taken out of their hands, yes.
How ironic.... they are making it easier to own a gun than an ebike. We have some messed up priorities here for sure.
Oh my gosh I hadn’t thought of that that way! Great point! This is terrible! Thanks for chiming in ❤
That’s a good thing Guns keep criminals from taking your e-bike
I live in CA & the law would be unconstitutional & unenforceable. Class 1 & 2 Ebikes are legally bicycles & not motor vehicles as defined in Federal Law. Class 3 is in the gray zone a bit going 28mph. The Dyno test would require a court order to violate the 4th Amendment on illegal searches & seizures of personal property.
Hey Steve! Sounds like you know the Law pretty good and I really appreciate you chiming in! And teaching me something new- so you don’t think they’ll be able to enforce these laws and regulations to e-bikes class 1 or 2? Or apply the apply the dyno test to any class ebike!?
Really... See the comments above. E-bikes weigh more and can go faster making them more dangerous. It's science E = m c2... It works and a heavy bike traveling a 25 mph- (class 2) will do far more damage than my 16 pound bike... Do the math, read the science and open your eyes to how the e-bikes are being ridden. I believe you have to protect the community, that's not stripping people of any rights, but I can see where you're going right the the constitution which is a document intentionally left up to interpretation so I think the greater good should be the standard.
My 2 cents is that over 20 mph or 30 kph, it should be classified as a motorized vehicle (moped/scooter). 30 kph being the max sprinting speed of a human, it's the closest thing to a natural speed limit we have.
I thought it was a really good video and I was really impressed with all the great discussions taking place in the comment section. I agree about the new troll also as discussed between you and bob k.
I started feeling like that a day or so ago. Can’t say for sure, but multiple similarities. They have only been typing here for a few days, but can recall things I said from a few weeks ago. It’s kinda strange. They also know that I am actually John the videographer and that I was very cold when we filmed at the reservoir : ) Man, that was a chilly day! I still get goosebumps just thinking about it!
You know what!? I’m really impressed too with all the very smart discussions taking place in the comment section! I’m going to take note and make a follow-up video! I do have one posting on Tuesday that will be talking about the proposed laws in NJ, what happened in FL, etc.. but I just have a feeling that these conversations will continue due to what’s going on! Haha the three of us are in agreement about it! Feels so much like John rob- all the annoying/awkward/negative/relentless comments. I was laughing at the exchanges you guys had on one of my recent short videos- you put him in his place so good! I wish we could see when this weird account was created. I do have to say it had been SO nice being troll free for a few weeks haha! Thanks for chiming in my friend ❤
@electrifiedlatina6871
The account in question was created February 4th, 2024. The sentence structure and train of thought are very similar to things that we heard before.
@@robotbroken I’m pretty sure it’s him.
@bobk18
I kind of hate to jump to conclusions, but I feel that way, also.
The whole internet is out there, but he found his way back. He must really love this channel
: ) but has a hard time expressing it.
I remember on Sesame Street that Oscar the Grouch was always a pain in the ass, but the garbage man never hauled him off. Everyone just knew that was Oscar and that was how he is. No one let Oscar the Grouch ruin their day.
I agree 100% with everything you said! This is insanity!
Thanks for your support! More on this topic is coming
EU is 15.5mph / pedal assist only /motor must cut out at 15.5mph /no throttles / 250W peak power
I know regulations are crazy strict in the EU! Thanks much for chiming in! ❤
United States class 1 e-bikes are the same except cut out at 20 mph
As long time unassisted bicyclist and now an ebike owner I support restrictions on e-bikes above class 1.
@@SLAUGHTYBAUDFAUSTWe have the 3 classes here that permits us to go up to 28 mph. I support the 3 Classes and anything above that should be the ones getting regulated..
I’m always shocked to be reminded of Europe’s 250 watt limit! I could understand if it were a limit set for children or juveniles, for adults trying to climb hills to get to work seems unrealistic.
It's ridiculous to take the fun out of the people who buy them for leisure. Not surprising though to find another way to make money from ebike owners. What's next an ebike police on bike trails... so unfair!
So unfair agreed! 😡
Lesson is you have to keep up with the E-bike laws in your State. EVERY state is gonna be different. Right now in NY state outside of NYC we are not allowed to ride on the side walk with any electric powered bike.
Well I break that law all the time because on busy streets without a bike lane its just safer to keep out of traffic. I don't think a city cop is gonna give you a ticket in that case.
But I do think we in the E-bike community have to keep a heavy ear on what's happening around the country.
I for one don't think its fair to have to pay to ride a damn bike.
That’s a great point David in keeping up with the ebike laws in your State! I believe here in Denver we’re not allowed on the sidewalk UNLESS there isn’t a bike lane on the street. And I absolutely agree with you in that sometimes it’s absolutely safer to ride on the sidewalks than in the streets. And NO it isn’t fair to have to pay to ride a damn bike 😡
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us- I’ll be collecting information from you guys to continue this conversation in ongoing videos as what is happening is nuts!
But it's just NOT safer for the people on the sidewalks...and I am an ebiker. The reason these laws are happening is because people are riding 30 mph on sidewalks and near pedestrians and pedestrians are getting scared. Or they are riding 40-plus through traffic. People need to ride more responsibly. If people want to go fast and really turn it out, go out of the cities and off the sidewalks
Problem is that a 30 or 40 mph ebike is not a bicycle anymore...
@@justinwhite2951 You have a point but I know I don't go that fast on a sidewalk. We just got to get some universal rules about E-bikes.
@@SciD1 It is though....and road bikers hit over 40 downhill
i just commented on your other video about laws and regulations.. one thing that i will ad is how the ebikes are getting stolen.. it is a huge problem in Denver but also in Boulder.. not that the police will do anything about it.. it would be nice to have an ebike and take it to the store to pick up groceries but it is not safe.. have to worry about it get stolen and if you are driving on the road you have to worry about getting hit by a car..
I really appreciate you commenting on both my videos and I hope you Subscribed to my channel- would love for you to be a part of the E Latina Family ❤
Ugh so sad about ebike theft! And yes when riding on roads bring hit by a car is a constant worry!
@@electrifiedlatina6871 I do think that Denver and Colorado are pushing for more ebikes.. Keep up the good work..
@@darinsmith2458that’s true! With all the rebates and incentives! Thanks my friend- I’ll keep working hard and putting up the best content possible 😊
they should not restrict the power or speed .. but restrict the allowed speed on a bike lane to 20 miles in city and 30 outside city (similar to cars topspeed)
I agree! Monitor the speed limits without restricting power or speed! Like a car indeed!
@@electrifiedlatina6871 yepp.. you can drive in the city with a 1000hp car... nobody restricts the power... but you should not drive faster as city speed limits..
the same should be with these ebikes or pedelecs .. on a hilly area 250W is a joke (and mid drive are still peaking to 7 or 800w).. a hub motor with 250 sucks on a bigger hill ...
these beefy dualmotor bikes are completely forbidden in Germany/ Europe... but you see them more and more (and that 250w sticker does not make it any safer)
RIP headphone users
Whatever that means. Thanks for continuing to feed the algorithm
@@electrifiedlatina6871. I think they were referring to people walking, riding, etc with ear buds or headphones on and totally bilious to their surroundings. They never hear you when you ring your bell and you don’t know what they will do next. I’m always waiting for them to take one step to the left and bam. At least that’s what I took from the comment.
@@bobk18lol that’s because you are a nice sweet person Bob- this is another Troll who just makes the same comment on another video of mine. But I like the way you think! ❤
It’s not really about cost when it comes to e-bikes versus regular cycle running costs, it’s about the speeds they can achieve and the energy involved. The energy gets exponentially bigger as these heavier bikes go faster and faster. Should motorcycles not require insurance or registration just because they are cheap transport? No, it should just be reasonable and in line with the actual dangers and real costs.
a fat person on a regular bike going down hill then is just as dangerous, speed, weight etc.
It’s not anymore dangerous to ride an ebike than a bicycle- the real danger are the cars that we share the roads with. I would agree to regulating e-bikes over class 3 speeds, but not for the 3 classes!
Good point
It sure is not. As of right now in most States there are the 3 classes of e-bikes and with class 3 it’s a 750w motor and weight doesn’t come into the equation - most legal e-bikes are over 50 pounds.
Great points!
My ebike is my sole mode of transportation 9 months a year, and i just ordered a pull trailer for it. This will never happen in my small town in N Arizona. Any ebike is considered a bicycle. I dont like California numerous ridiculous laws.
Wow this is amazing Mark respect! I’m glad to hear that they won’t be able to touch your town! Amen to that”ridiculous laws in California”! Let’s hope these laws don’t pass 🤞🏻
@electrifiedlatina6871 I haven't been to California in over 20 years. I only know what I hear about it, or videos. I doubt there's 15 ebikes in this whole town. We have one bike shop here, Magnums and very high-end trek electric bikes. Out of 5 magnums they've had for 2 years, 2 were on layaway. Even though I'm over 65, I will own a Surron someday. Ride safe.
Age should not be a limiting factor- and if you would like to own a Surron some day I think that’s amazing!
In Canada you have to be 16 yrs old to ride an ebike,and go 20miles an hr
Makes a lot of sense to me!
Obvious common sense is mandatory helmets, age limit on motorized bikes, No riding on sidewalks.
Yessss! 100%! Thanks for chiming in ❤️
Here where I live in Michigan, we have very few bike lanes. I actually feel safer driving on the sidewalks. It is legal in my city. I have a bell on my E-
Bikes so I don't give someone a heart attack when I approach them from behind. There is too much "distracted driving" in the roads and worry about getting hit by someone that does not see me. I am a very considerate driver on the sidewalks and I have not had any problems with people on the side walk that are walking. The police see me everyday and do NOT bother me at all.
@@RobertHaworth I understand and agree but most people aren't as courteous as you
@@RobertHaworthYes, I'm sure the pedestrians feel much safer as well...
So these "laws" I more like to call it brain's, and yeah the speed trap is wrong, but hay the e-riders I do not blame them at all ! I blame like you said the ones that abuse what's fun ? Uh I guess ? Oh I think the people have the right to know the laws of those laws ? Basically that's what that is and to second that law in court. Ask what's the benefit of those laws and just say nope F, off with those and that's that. But because it is like ha ha ha ha ha ha uh yes these laws stay this is Ahmarkah we don't care what you have to say. Hahahahahahahaha and that's so very true to ?
Respect to everyone and good luck.
Respect to everyone and good luck- I second that..
There is NO law for california to have a ebike license or registration. Why are you lying!!!
ROFL, you get what you vote for!!! Wait until the take away your car and force you to commute on that E-bike.
That’ll make me happy haha!
E biking is not a right. E bikes SUCK!
Most insightful comment ever! Thanks for sharing your wisdom 🤣
Of course you think it is ridiculous...because it will not be free any longer and you will have to pay your way.
pay exactly for What way?
@jazzechos1372 A basic form of transportation should absolutely be free! And to make me and the millions upon millions of e-bikes riders is absolutely absurd and ridiculous! The government like always just wants to take our money with any excuse
And you're partly responsible with your irresponsible riding and putting it on YT for kids to see. Thanks.
I think you are John Rob disguised with a different account- you sound just like him! And you know what happened to him… haha
@@electrifiedlatina6871 I believe you are 100% correct on that one.
@@bobk18LOL! Right!?
@@electrifiedlatina6871 What?
Pay your fair share... You benefit from the roads and need to share the insurance burden with the rest of us. Stop with the recreation crap. Get a pedal bike without a motor. That's exercise that's recreation. I ride a bike on the roads without keeping up and have for 30 years. Two wrongs don't make it right. The phone companies could easily stop the texting and videos in cars, that's what we need. License plates and a riders test should be required. That way people can learn the laws and prove their ability. It's not a bicycle, it's a motorized vehicle and should be treated as such. This comes from someone who has been riding for 50 years... You are a whinny and lazy... We have an obesity issue in the US. Motorized bikes take the exercise out of the best way to move. It's sad...
Ugh you are so rude!
What’s sad is your attitude and insults! Violating UA-cam’s community guidelines and my channel’s! You have no idea who I am or why my viewers choose to ride e-bikes! I was a triathlete training for the Olympics until I got a life threatening chronic illness and that’s how I found e-bikes! E-bikes have nothing to do with obesity! It gets people outside who otherwise would be stuck at home with illness’s elderly or injuries, of course there’s recreation too. We benefit from unsafe roads- if we pay we need increased and way better infrastructure for cyclists and e-bikes. You are so ignorant when it comes to e-bikes and have no business in an eBike channel. Buh bye!
@@electrifiedlatina6871 They give lazy Americans another reason not to move. I'm sorry about your chronic illness, but most e-bike riders are just lazy kids who don't want to work or put their bodies in motion. are e-bikes the cause of obesity, no not on their own, but the don't contribute to peoples physical activity which is the problem I have. For people with injuries or illnesses they work but even elderly people can ride bikes that don't have motors and they can benefit from the non-weight-bearing exercise in so many ways. Again, Americans need to move more without the aid of a motor and all the social demographics evidence prove this. There are no insults, lazy is lazy and that's a fact not an insult. If you can take the the constructive criticism of your point of view maybe you should get off of UA-cam. I've been riding a long time so I also know about poor infrastructure. But if other motorized vehicles require registration, licensing and insurance than that's the choice you make as part of the communities. E-bikes make the roads more dangerous speeds and the fact that people don't have to test to prove competency on the roads.
@@janieramseier5968 No Ugh... Not rude.... I'm being real. A report just came out and not only is the US an obese nation but now it's growing into a global issue. Why in heaven's name would you take exercise out of cycling? This my point people are dying at faster rates and we're taking away one of the greatest forms of exercise by putting motors on bikes. It's NUTS!
I agree 100% with everything you said! This is insanity!
Thank you for your support! ❤