Core Set 8th Edition || Crack-A-Pack - Sept 3, 2024
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- Someone's gotta open these packs eventually and that someone is Graham. Today's pack is from Core Set 8th Edition.
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Graham skipped over a handful of critical words on Plague wind "Destroy all creatures YOU DON'T CONTROL," which is why that card costs so much. The winds were a cycle of 9 mana cards from Prophecy with powerful effects, usually enough to win you the game. The white one set target player's life to 20, the blue one lets search target player's library for 7 cards and exile them, we saw the black one in the video, the red one deals 10 damage to any target, and the green one gives all your creatures +7/+7 until EOT.
Only the black and red ones have been reprinted: both in 8th edition, and plague wind retruned 9th, 10th, and Magic 25. Plague wind is actually playable thanks to Cabal Coffers, which was first printed about a year before 8th edition released.
Yeah, 9 mana wrath is terrible. 9 mana /one-sided/ wrath is pretty good, especially back in 8th edition power level days.
@@binks5215 Is 8th still the age of black fast mana? Just imagine turn 1 swamp, ritual, ritual, ritual, ritual, plague wind. The pure sheer flex of that.
@@ulrichs.3228 Do all that, then your opponent, who hasn't had a turn yet, just goes "...resolves?"
The red one saw some legacy play alongside Conflux/Progenitus in Dream Halls decks.
back in the before times during a long game, i cast Vitalizing wind and plague wind in the same turn.
"It's a real animal from our actual planet", yeah, and so is a grizzly bear mr bear force one.
5:35 It's a Daru cleric from Onslaught block. They were big on the grass clothing.
And he's not "summoning a jellyfish", he's dispelling a magical effect. Destroying an enchantment, if you will.
Fun fact: that Coleridge passage on Scathe Zombies is the same one used on its original Alpha version. In fact, it was reprinted in every Core Set up to (and including) 10th Edition with the exact same flavor text each time. Only the Starter printing uses something different.
I regret to inform everyone that Coral Eel has been errated to a fish
The wait for eel tribal continues
Releasing a pack of "I dunno its magic the gathering" is kind of what mystery boosters are doing. There may be some lists out there, but generally its just a bunch of mtg cards of random sets.
"O, coreset eight! Thou doth aim low of cromulence, yet for that you are noble." ~William Shakespeare, *Gathering*
@ 9:01 for the listeners, Graham forgot to say one small detail about Plague Wind. It says "Destroy all creatures YOU DON'T CONTROL. They can't be regenerated." That's right, that you DO NOT CONTROL! Destroy all other creatures other than YOURS!
Yeah, there aren't a whole lot of one sided wraths out there. I might be willing to bet on getting to 7 mana in a low powered game of Core Set 8 draft then blowing out my opponent.
5:35 Re: "wicker person" They got the same headdress as Daru Healer and Daunting Defender because the art was originally from Onslaught
Funny coincidence for this, I randomly watched an old crack a pack yesterday (01/02/2022) which was a pack of 10th Edition, just so happened to be donated by the same person and also featured Scathe Zombies!
Coreflux clearly weighed the packs to ensure they contained scathe zombies. It’s part of their plot to ensure LRR had a play set of them. For what purpose, I’m still investigating!
I think I remember reading that they intentionally wanted to avoid saying "8th edition" on the packaging because it would scare off new players from picking up the game because it felt like you must have missed so much of the game already. But then again, they're putting an "Advanced" icon on the packaging to intentionally try to steer new players away from buying it in favor of buying the on power level basically unplayable cards from a Portal beginner set. So if that's the reason I'm getting some mixed messages.
They'd stopped having a separate set for starter by this point, moving to a 2 deck intro product from the same set. I started in 7th and it worked quite well for me, boosters not being a good way to start.
But reading up for 8th, they stopped labelling anything a starter product, which is just weird.
You joke about Lear, but I do know that they quote it alongside Midsummer Night's Dream, Measure for Measure, and King Henry the Eighth. Yes, someone on the flavor team in the 90s was well versed.
They also quote other authors in different language versions. For instance Megrim quotes Arthur Rimbaud in French.
This is where Modern starts
You know, as someone who started in, like, Oddysey or Torment or something, I was grateful to get cards at all! White borders, or not. Lol. I have a nostalgia for the border.
I started at Fourth Edition. My friends and I did see a lot of white border cards.
I believe Arnie Swekel's art for Flight [8ED] is referencing Glen Angus's art for Spiritmonger [APC], a powerhouse creature from a couple years prior. Great content as always!
Whoa! That's wild.
04:20 I prefer the 7th Edition Dark banishing:
“Hence ‘banishèd’ is banished from the world,
And the world’s exile is death.”
-William Shakespeare,
Romeo and Juliet
Plus Rebecca Guay art!
Personally think the first pick would be Dark Banishing, as I don't know how many autokill spells there would be in this old core set. And hey, maybe that Plague Wind will wheel back to you!
Either that or Bog Wraith
But you see Dark Banishing only kills 1 Coral Eel or Goblin Piker while the rod can kill all of them. Also it's not unlikely that your opponent can't attack profitably while you have your rod up and you just get to ping them to death.
Imagine what good fun it would be to draft this. 9 turns spent playing horribly statted vanillas and french vanillas, then a plague wind, and another dozen turns of vanillas
Better than the sealed pool I had in M11 that literally had 8 creatures and the most powerful one was a 4/5 zombie that came into play tapped...
I'll take the vanillas please.
That board wipe is one sided, so not another twelve turns.
More like six, because your creatures are badly stated.
It was so boring hahaha. This was the first set i ever drafted. Draft was kind of a new concept still and none of us fully got how it worked 😅
8th Edition Core set did something I wish more core sets would (have) do(ne); reprint at least ONE card from every set that came before.
If I recall, 8th was the one where they included at least one card from every expansion up to that point. So there’s some eyebrow raising ones.
Time to get out of bed and be productive! Oh, new Crack-A-Pack just dropped? Never mind then!
Time to go to bed and sleep responsibly!
Oh, new...
Despite all the shiny new kinds of basics, that mountain will forever remain my favorite land art.
Fun fact: Because Rime of the Ancient Mariner is written in the common meter, it can be sung to either the tune of the Gilligan's Island theme, or the Pokemon theme song
This is just like listening to an old friend riff on magic... I find it so funny and comforting! Thank you, Graham!
Now I’m thinking there needs to be a commander deck that is just “real animals.” No flying sharks or water dragons or whatever. Just bears, dogs, and… eels, I guess.
I had a tokens deck that did like mostly Elephants and Rhinos. lol
I’ve been wanting to build an all animals cube for a while, but it’s probably a better concept than it would be a fun gameplay experience.
I did that back in '95 - '96. It was 5 color and Not Good
to explain the wicker person on Demystify: that art is from Onslaught, and the clerics in Otaria just dressed like that. you can check out Daunting Defender, Akroma's Devoted, Daru Spiritualist, etc.
Also, the original printing of that Mountain, in Mirage, costs 1.64 each. the premium of black borders.
Time to make a Dan-Dan variant that's just Eel Eel.
Romeo & Juliet and Troilus & Cressida are tied for the most quotations on Magic cards, with 3.
My favorite MtG bard card is probably Darkness: "If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a bride, / And hug it in mine arms." (Measure for Measure)
8th Edition holds a special place in my heart. The first Magic cards I owned we're from 8th. I got a sample booster with a Magazine, I remember it included a Aven Fisher, Standing Troops, Razorfoot Griffin, Shock, Sizzle, Hibernation, Urza's Tower and a gorgeous foil John Avon Plains. I loved the look of them so much that I wanted more, so got a Mono Black theme deck, it didn't come with instructions on how to play though. So they just sat around and I'd admire the artwork. I wouldn't learn to play until 2016, when my little brother got into yu-gi-oh and I was reminded of the existence of my Magic cards. Went to the local game shop and they gave me some sample decks. I was entering into Welsh nationals 2 years later.
"RRRRRRRIIIIIDGELINE RRRRRAAAGER! Remember that?"
You maake fun, but "Shakespeare, Coleridge, and Webb" is going to be the hit buddy comedy of next year, probably
The Coral Eel artwork is basically the opening to Finding Nemo :')
You gotta love the attention they used to have for flavour text 👌 The Scathe Zombies being my favourite out of this pack.
the fact that some mtg artists have been doing it more or less for over 20 years is kinda mamazing
Some even 30 years. Somewhat recently, they got some back like Richard Kane Ferguson who has a very distinctive art style.
Hey 8th Edition Avons are what I use in my draft kit! While I love the modern land treatments we get now, I honestly think 8th edition has the most iconic looking basics of any set. It may just be nostalgia but I truly love white bordered lands. It makes them super quick to remove after a draft too!
Don't worry, I too remember Sony's E3 press conference from 2006
Same one that introduced the Giant Enemy Crab meme.
Delightful as always!
This was about the time I went on my 20-year Magic break, so it's nice to see cards that I recognize.
I have a mana geyser I ordered online with a gray mana symbol in the text, and I was wondering if it was a misprint. I guess not- just a weird choice, lol
It was the same with Mirrodin as both sets began the "modern border".
Fun fact: Core Set 8th edition was released one month after D&D 3.5 was released.
I remember seeing Maggot Carrier for the first time in 8th edition, and it's flavor text from Epistles hit me hard.
Scathe Zombies holds a weird place in my heart. Back in high school, while googling for zombies to put in some kitchen table jank deck, I saw a picture of the card. Unbeknownst to me it had been edited and, if memory serves, appeared to be a single black mana for a 3/2 zombie -- amazing! So I showed up at the local game store to buy 4 copies and was sorely disappointed.
I have a very fond memory of 8th edition. I started playing round that time, a year or two before, actually. I was seven or eight, with a way older brother who wanted to play at home and not just with his friends. He had the beginners decks / boxset / whatever you call it from Onslaught, I believe. Maybe for 7th edition as well, if they ever made those (should investigate). We played a lot of Elves vs Goblins. 8th Edition was my first ever booster - he had taken me into town to buy one, as a gift. Maybe that's why I don't share the hate for white borders, I grew up on them.
a coral eel, nice! you're well on your way to an eel tribal deck!
Started around this time, with my first cards being the themed starter decks. The Red starter deck was Goblins and had a few Goblin Gliders. Red also has always been the second worse color at flying.
This also came out before Kamigawa, and with the set not having new art, the Demystify art is from Onslaught block since that's what many of the Clerics looked like.
> Red also has always been the second worse color at flying.
Which is odd, considering that Phoenixes and Dragons are squarely in Red.
@@admanios But usually at Rare, and while they can still be powerful, that doesn't make them efficient compared to the other colors at having big flyers. Red's common and uncommon flyers are often cumbersome.
Funny that the eel is a piker
I wonder, do you need a desaturated Mountain to provide the correct type of mana to pay for a desaturated red pip casting cost?
2:34 and that’s why it’s in my “under the sea” commander deck.
Oh, 8th edition. This is when I started playing Magic. Unpopular opinion but man I love this frame, the white borders, the art. It's just a core thing to Magic for me, I guess. Get it?
Well, I wasn't going to leave a comment, but Graham said 'Please'
First thought was that Drudge Skeleton is definitely gotta be a common. How dare theeee
I don't remember correctly but has LRR ever done a chaos draft from crack a pack videos? I think it would be incredibly fun.
Fun fact: that version of scathe zombies is on arena (though obviously not in white border)
Shakespere, Colerige, and Webb sounds like a law firm
I probably would first pick Dark Banishing from this pack, though I'd seriously consider Plague Wind.
8th Edition, my beloved.
Plague Wind was absolutely the first pick here. 8th Ed was slow. Slow enough Flight won games (definitely as a 23rd card). Passing Dark Banishing is rough, though letting your neighbors fight over black isn't a bad thing
Dark banishing or abundance might be the pick? Kill spells were more spare but good at this time, and green splash rares worked I think?
Man, Dark Banishing was primo removal back in the day.
Would be funny to build a deck of just real world creatures
I remember 8th edition fondly
I legit had a buddy running Demystify in a Selesnya Commander deck. Next week I gave him 57 Naturalizes.
8:14 It's red, red doesn't much flying.
Plague wind won me many multiplayer games back in the day.
Can’t wait to buy a card just because Shakespeare 😊
ah yes my first mtg set, was VERY beginner friendly unlike mirrodin... kamigawa was ok but OG Ravnica was my first booster box.
This pack is old enough to drink in the USA. Buy a beer for the set that starts Modern.
I mean, one sided wraths are still pretty hard to come by.
@ 9:27 First pick Dark Banishing?
That's what I'm taking
great mountain
Should grab the Fertile Ground, honestly.
5:25 Good Lord, when's the last time they printed a card with three words of game text on it?
Murder was reprinted in MKM, and we got Quick Study "draw two cards" in Wilds of Eldraine.
Avon lands ❤️
Alexander duals and Walker board wipes!
Pack: cracked.
This is me leaving a comment, as requested
Loved plague wind, but always been more of an "in garruks wake" kinda player
I'm just gonna assume someone at Wizards got paid to find fitting quotes from classic literature for all the cards they couldn't find any in-universe flavor to print on.
Core sets back then were supposed to be flavor agnostic. Also, since all of these were reprints, they already had in-universe flavor text. They wanted setting nonspecific flavor text.
8th edition was amazing. So many classic cards and the literature quotes gave the game a more sophisticated feeling. Now the game only cares about putting its diverse cast of characters into funny situations in soulless, forgettable stories. I mean, what's cooler? Your game having Shakespear quotes or Hollywood cliches?
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Hey G, here's a comment for ya! 😃
So currently is complexity creep, this is the opposite. Maybe something in the middle between old Core Sets and Modern Horizons 😅
I yearn for the days of simply Magic: the Gathering and that was it for a few months
Standard sets still came out 4 per year back then.
that was a pack of all time
Gotta be sad about an episode of CAP where Graham cannot identify basic woven clothing on Demystify, can't read the words on Plague Wind, and just generally does a much worse job than usual. At least it brought up House in Dormer Forest, and by extension led to me rediscovering the contemporary parody 'Cold Comfort Farm' .
I miss simple cards.
LRRMTG, Your content is fire, let's collab, bro!