I think a lot of people forget that USAC had their own stock car series. In fact, when Ontario was open they had a double header with the first half being a 250 mile stock car race followed by a 250 mile Indycar race.
YESS, they had doubleheaders at Michigan InternationaL speedway in the '80's ( sometimes a tripleheader with IROC). The Indy cars would go fitrst, with 220+mph.Then, the stock cars LOOKED SLOW.....................
The Great Parnelli Jones is still alive & kickin', so it's not too late. PJ is a true American Baddass, tough as steel & I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't outlive all his former rival's & blow out 100 candle's on his bday 🎂 before he's threw & take's his final 🏁 Do some research, see if you could maybe take your Boss 302 to him, or maybe mail you glovebox door to PJ to sign. To have your Stang autographed by Parnelli Jones would be on par with having a Super bird signed by Richard Petty! Good luck! 🤞😉
A.J. Foyt... I loved watching him race during the 1970s on ABC's Wide World Of Sports.... incredible how high these big blocks were turning back then..........
It's always nice to see the "Flying Scot" Jackie Stewart in any form of racing. He is one of the greatest racing drivers of all time, and the same can be said for his fellow Scotsman, the late Jim Clark.
Thank you VERY MUCH whoever posted this !!!! I'll bet that you taped all of those episodes of Bud Lindermans "Road and Track". I would LOVE to see the USAC Stock race at Kaukauna that was shown on the channel that you originally taped this on. My copy burned in a fire...
Don White, Roger McCluskey, and Norm Nelson where outstanding in the Usac stock car series. I was fortunate enough to attend their races at Mid America raceway in Wentzville Missouri. As a kid it gave me a lifelong love of motorsports.
You gotta love the primitive nature of the race course and the rules: No pit wall, no pit lane speed limit, pit crew with shirt-sleeve dungarees. Top-tiered racing has gotten too refined for my tastes nowadays.
This is a different version of the road course at IRP than I drove in the 1990's. It is all east of the drag strip and was run counterclockwise in this race. The course I drove was on both sides of the drag strip and we ran clockwise. I can't believe they were pitting right on the main straight. Lots of potential for accidents doing that.
If NASCAR still looked like this, the sport would still be popular. Old school ruled. The day Dale was killed, the sport began it's decent into mediocrity.
Love that the spectators charge to the back of the grandstands to watch the action on the back part of the course! 3:35 - why does Parnelli Jones have a cloth wrapped around his chin?
Does anyone remember the show "Race to Riches"? I think it was sponsored by a food store and there was some sort of a game connected to the show. As a kid I watched it and Loved it. Even the guy calling the race sounds familiar. Really Cool!
Raced karts at IRP from the late 60's into the 80's. Different layout and opposite direction. 2.5 mile course. Those days are gone forever. No more road racing at all at IRP as far as I know. Indianapolis's "other" racetrack.
I never knew there was a road course up there. I presume it wound around on the outer edges of what is mostly parking area for drag racing event? The IRP I know for stock cars is just a small circle track.
Yeah I never knew this track existed either, it made for good racing, shows what can happen, when you really race a stock car with only a few modifications!
The F1 drivers would get dominated 😂. Aj Foyt was in this and he was almost certainly the best driver on earth at this point in time, besides Open wheel and stock car racing are entirely different disciplines.
@Christopher Haas . . . from outward appearances, it looks like some NASCAR teams trekked up to Indiana for this race. Andretti's machine is definitely Holman-Moody; Paul Goldsmith was Ray Nichels Engineering (though Nichels built Mopar racers for both USAC and NASCAR teams); AJ Foyt was with Banjo Matthews; but the #15 of Jones has conflicting info, some sources says Holman-Moody, another says Bill Stroppe. Back then I connected the #15 with Bud Moore. Here's a link to the race results: www.ultimateracinghistory.com/race.php?raceid=261
This was actually exciting! I can not stand the new stuff. Nostalgia stock car racing would be great! Keep all safety gear for drivers but use older suspension tech. Those 4 wheel slides on the corners were great.
This was back before NASCAR officials began to legally determine race winners prior to races being ran. (read: The Fix Is In for court cases proving this fact) NASCAR used to be exiting. Now I fall asleep watching boring races. I remember when Parnell Jones was the fastest man up the Pike's Peak Hill Climb. And he was driving the freaking pace car, a 3.8 turbo Buick, with Miss Pike's Peak sitting in the passenger seat! Today's NASCAR is total BS.
Yup. Agreed. Every race ends with a "catch up caution" flag. Total BS. Now they have stage racing for the Millennial Pussy Drivers and cry baby Sponsors.
Oh man, with a field chocked full of the current day's superstar driver's, It must have grieved The King something awful that he wasn't in this race, especially in 1967 when he won so many Grand National race's ☹️ Ol' Parnelli Jones must be the most underrated of all the All-Time Great's, he just doesn't seem to be remembered with quite the same reverence as the big 3 ( Petty, FOYT, Andretti ) That's a shame, considering all 3 of those Gentleman will tell you that PJ may have actually been The GOAT 🐐
This is not a NASCAR race. It's the USAC Stock Car series. USAC was the same sanctioning body that ruled Indy Car back then. NASCAR never had anything as good as USAC, mostly because the drivers in USAC were better drivers - proven by the fact that whenever Andretti or Foyt or Unser or Jones competed in a NASCAR sanctioned event, they either won or ran very close to a win even though they were using substandard, temporary equipment and borrowed pit crews.
the fastest car doesn't always win. That mopar took Parnelli's lunch money at the end albeit a lap down. Bad luck is the only reason the number 2 didn't take it
@@BMS06701 So what happened on the 1st lap. Where was LUCK then. Seems the Ford was faster when it counted. Don't get me wrong, I think the 67 Charger is a fantastic looking car. One of the best shapes in car racing. Just like my Ford's better!
@jerryw66 . . . after the 1963 Daytona 500 (NASCAR), Chevy/GM ended all _official_ involvement with motorsports; and didn't get back into it until the early 1970s. I brought up the emphasis of _official_ since there was a small development department in the Chevrolet division that was designated for doing (ahem!) *Heavy Duty* projects. Was it mere coincidence that such heavy-duty Chevy parts and pieces ended up with independent race teams? (wink wink) such as with Chaparral Cars and Roger Penske? For additional details, I strongly suggest getting the book: *"Chevrolet = Racing? 14 Years of Raucous Silence," by Paul Van Valkenburgh.*
Basically Chrysler and Ford put factory money into USAC and NASCAR stock car racing - GM did not. There was some rouge GM heavy duty work going on "off the books" but it was not enough to really do anything material in stock car racing in 1967. When Chrysler and Ford cut back spending in NASCAR to almost nothing in 1971 - the France family pressured GM to come into the sport - in part because it would be easier with no factory money - but also because Bill France was tired of the boycott games the other 2 companies had put NASCAR through in the 60s. The push to small block engines was mostly because that is what the GM teams wanted (the Hemi and Boss engines were way ahead of the Chevy Big Block in terms of R&D/racing parts - on pure design the canted valve head of the Chevy actually had plenty of potential) - going to the small block leveled the playing field. Unfortunately Ford/Mopar lagged Chevy in making racing parts available especially in the late 70s/early 80s so it became a GM dominated sport from 1976 to 1991 (in 1992 - the Ford teams all standardized on the Yates aluminum head and kicked the hell out of GM - but that is another story).
Absolute Gold! Who needs chicanes after a half mile strait? Just a big, wide, flat sweeper ... that'll work. Love this circuit. Now pitting along the half mile straight? ... uh that's no bueno👎 Indycars ran here too ... circuit was config'd a bit different, as there's an entire additional road course portion west of the drag strip not used for the stock cars.
thanks usac . i eric stewart dreams of breaking age barrier in racing. i lost fifty pounds and can press one million one hundred thousand pounds a weekend. i am an american trucker in logging industry a knievel fan and biker kareoke singer day dreamer dad and i have electric ideas for the future. i want to qualify and win for bobby hillin jr and the allisons and foyt. and wilbur shaw . ceasers palace turned me down to do the triple jump for knievel every week and sing. happy trails. eric stewart monroe city indiana
THIS! If NASCRAP wants to increase viewership/attendance then get back to THIS kinda racing. Sure, keep most of the newer safety tech but let it be a free-for-all like it once was. Require that all drivers have to smoke and make em pound down a few beers before the race.
Wrong, jonny. That's your opinion. And your opinion isn't anymore valid than anyone else's. Obviously, you have a very large, *inaccurate* opinion of yourself. End of story. PS--Ever heard of spell check, child? Or grammar? I'm not surprised that you aren't very educated. My advice? Stay in school, and hope for the best. The world needs custodians and pot washers, too.
I think a lot of people forget that USAC had their own stock car series. In fact, when Ontario was open they had a double header with the first half being a 250 mile stock car race followed by a 250 mile Indycar race.
"Datsun Twin 200" from 1977 to 1979. Great stuff! USAC drivers drove sprint cars, indy car, stock cars, Pikes Peak hill climb and were true racers.
YESS, they had doubleheaders at Michigan InternationaL speedway in the '80's ( sometimes a tripleheader with IROC). The Indy cars would go fitrst, with 220+mph.Then, the stock cars LOOKED SLOW.....................
Parnelli has always been my favorite. Really wish I got his autograph to go with my Boss 302.
The Great Parnelli Jones is still alive & kickin', so it's not too late. PJ is a true American Baddass, tough as steel & I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't outlive all his former rival's & blow out 100 candle's on his bday 🎂 before he's threw & take's his final 🏁
Do some research, see if you could maybe take your Boss 302 to him, or maybe mail you glovebox door to PJ to sign. To have your Stang autographed by Parnelli Jones would be on par with having a Super bird signed by Richard Petty! Good luck! 🤞😉
Grew up hearing my mom ask dad repeatedly "Who do you think you are, Parnelli Jones?" Sure do miss them.
I can related 2 that,
That was great❤️❤️man what beautiful race cars☝️☝️
A.J. Foyt... I loved watching him race during the 1970s on ABC's Wide World Of Sports.... incredible how high these big blocks were turning back then..........
Everything in the past is better than anything today. These were real cars and real men.
Can only dream of racing this pure
It's always nice to see the "Flying Scot" Jackie Stewart in any form of racing. He is one of the greatest racing drivers of all time, and the same can be said for his fellow Scotsman, the late Jim Clark.
Dewey
Great announcer as well!
..so happens that Jim Clark is the man standing next to Mario, at the start of the video, having a laugh...
idk if you know this 6 years later but jim clark actually race a nascar race ironically this same exact year 1967 at Rockingham
and jackie attempted a race but dnq
NASCAR executives should watch these old races and learn. This is how you get fans in the stands.
If we only knew back then that this was the best it will ever be.......RP Parnelli Jones ....Godspeed
Thank you VERY MUCH whoever posted this !!!! I'll bet that you taped all of those episodes of Bud Lindermans "Road and Track". I would LOVE to see the USAC Stock race at Kaukauna that was shown on the channel that you originally taped this on. My copy burned in a fire...
Don White, Roger McCluskey, and Norm Nelson where outstanding in the Usac stock car series. I was fortunate enough to attend their races at Mid America raceway in Wentzville Missouri. As a kid it gave me a lifelong love of motorsports.
i was cheering jones on even though this raced happened nearly 30 years before i was born
These old races are even exciting to watch on video.
Wonderful!................REALLY GOOD STUFF,
You gotta love the primitive nature of the race course and the rules: No pit wall, no pit lane speed limit, pit crew with shirt-sleeve dungarees. Top-tiered racing has gotten too refined for my tastes nowadays.
Late model stock car ,arca, whelen modified have this atmosphere
Wow! Real cars and lots of people, totally opposite of now!
Even the Flagman put on a show!
Well this is certainly more exciting that modern nascar racing!!
Mopars in the day love it
Buck Shot Jones. back in the day. ....the good old days
This is a different version of the road course at IRP than I drove in the 1990's. It is all east of the drag strip and was run counterclockwise in this race. The course I drove was on both sides of the drag strip and we ran clockwise. I can't believe they were pitting right on the main straight. Lots of potential for accidents doing that.
That was typical of the era. Took forever it seemed for Milwaukee to have a separate pit road.
Sure looked that way. The whole thing looked crazy dangerous. Especially with these guys driving with one hand and smoking with the other lol
Holy Moly that looks scary fast for those cars. You had to have some cajones back then to do this.
This was filmed on another planet.
take Me back :(
The year my father was born. In my opinion, the last great year America experienced. By the time 1972 rolled around, the systematic theft began.
What a pure engine sound..
Great to see those old MOPARs, but am reminded how much safety measures and camera work has advanced.
Real cars ! Not fiver glass I miss the old NASCAR 👍🏼
Yessir 👍🏼
4:31 talk about badass and seeing real men drive, that was cool lol. wish racing was more like this today, this was way better than todays shit
You do NOT try to intimidate Parnelli Jones, EVER !
All that on bias-ply tires . 🚗
If NASCAR still looked like this, the sport would still be popular. Old school ruled. The day Dale was killed, the sport began it's decent into mediocrity.
Why are they so stuck ?
That was the best race ever!!!!
USAC STOCKS! MOOOOORE!
Much better than F1 today.
STOCK cars. Not kit cars. Nice.
Love that some brought out full-size cars like the Galxie and I think the black #93 is a '65 Impala.
Good old days of racing
Given the size of those cars, they cornered pretty flat. Amazing.
Real stock cars running bias plies, just as God intended.
Love that the spectators charge to the back of the grandstands to watch the action on the back part of the course!
3:35 - why does Parnelli Jones have a cloth wrapped around his chin?
Maybe to hold the hose for his drink bottle in his mouth?
Amazing old footage of the beginnings of stock car racing.
A young Dr Van Nostrand at 0:11
Does anyone remember the show "Race to Riches"? I think it was sponsored by a food store and there was some sort of a game connected to the show. As a kid I watched it and Loved it. Even the guy calling the race sounds familiar. Really Cool!
We Need Announcers like that today.
wow amazing race!!
isn't that jim clake @ 0:06?
This is when racing was fun
Did they add in the tire screeching sounds effects? I never heard those when attending asphalt courses.
if nascar was still real everyday cars i would probably watch it .
I don't think I would, cars today are crap compared to these machines. I don't think the glory days of racing could ever be replicated, unfortunately.
I want to thank M&Ms, Mountain Dew and Tampax Tampons..
Raced karts at IRP from the late 60's into the 80's. Different layout and opposite direction. 2.5 mile course. Those days are gone forever. No more road racing at all at IRP as far as I know. Indianapolis's "other" racetrack.
I raced my kart there at the 1970 Enduro Nationals against Ricky Rudd and Mark Dismore. Great times.
This track has had so many different types of races at it but now is just a drag strip. I miss old IRP
I never knew there was a road course up there. I presume it wound around on the outer edges of what is mostly parking area for drag racing event? The IRP I know for stock cars is just a small circle track.
Correct, the road course was built around the perimeter of the property. It was hoped to host the US Grand Prix, but didn't happen.
Yeah I never knew this track existed either, it made for good racing, shows what can happen, when you really race a stock car with only a few modifications!
This track still exists today. The white with red water towers are still there as well.
Gee wonder what's stored in those tanks by the track
偉大な歴史、投稿ありがとう
Queria ver esses pilotos da F1 atual enfrentar essa parada!
The F1 drivers would get dominated 😂. Aj Foyt was in this and he was almost certainly the best driver on earth at this point in time, besides Open wheel and stock car racing are entirely different disciplines.
Goldsmith and Andrettis cars resemble what they were driving in NASCAR that year. How does that happen
@Christopher Haas . . . from outward appearances, it looks like some NASCAR teams trekked up to Indiana for this race. Andretti's machine is definitely Holman-Moody; Paul Goldsmith was Ray Nichels Engineering (though Nichels built Mopar racers for both USAC and NASCAR teams); AJ Foyt was with Banjo Matthews; but the #15 of Jones has conflicting info, some sources says Holman-Moody, another says Bill Stroppe. Back then I connected the #15 with Bud Moore.
Here's a link to the race results: www.ultimateracinghistory.com/race.php?raceid=261
Bloqk-16 I was thinking Bud Moore also. Thanks. Better days, better racing, what a field here, whew
Yeah Andretti wo the 67 Daytona 500 in that blue 427 Fairlane. #11
6:05 We'll just stand on the grass here at the exit of this turn...
None of that 55 mph stuff on pit road. One driver was racing with his arm hanging out the window. Casual.
Aldo Andretti at 0:42.
those were the days
Some part of video are speed up?
nascar racing today is just imaginary cars with stickers on .
Okay but this is usac not Nascar. A guy like you waxing about the past should know that
Pitting ON THE TRACK in those days. That is madness.
This isn't CRASHCAR. This is USAC Stock Cars.
This wasn’t the IRP I was expecting.
Classic race full of unsafe practices that required a large set as much as driving skill! Jones kicked butts all over that track!
This was actually exciting! I can not stand the new stuff. Nostalgia stock car racing would be great! Keep all safety gear for drivers but use older suspension tech. Those 4 wheel slides on the corners were great.
Greatness!!!
Parnelli will driver the experimental turbine car at the next race...............
Racing back then was so exciting, every aspect of it, even the announcers. I can't watch 10 minutes of today's racing it's that boring.
Thumbs up liked for you.
This was back before NASCAR officials began to legally determine race winners prior to races being ran. (read: The Fix Is In for court cases proving this fact)
NASCAR used to be exiting. Now I fall asleep watching boring races.
I remember when Parnell Jones was the fastest man up the Pike's Peak Hill Climb. And he was driving the freaking pace car, a 3.8 turbo Buick, with Miss Pike's Peak sitting in the passenger seat!
Today's NASCAR is total BS.
Yup. Agreed. Every race ends with a "catch up caution" flag. Total BS. Now they have stage racing for the Millennial Pussy Drivers and cry baby Sponsors.
He also won the 1963 pikes peak hill climb with a 63 Mercury Marauder 427. Oh yeah.
4:34 drifting with one arm out the window , no window nets . Try that today !
Oh man, with a field chocked full of the current day's superstar driver's, It must have grieved The King something awful that he wasn't in this race, especially in 1967 when he won so many Grand National race's ☹️
Ol' Parnelli Jones must be the most underrated of all the All-Time Great's, he just doesn't seem to be remembered with quite the same reverence as the big 3 ( Petty, FOYT, Andretti ) That's a shame, considering all 3 of those Gentleman will tell you that PJ may have actually been The GOAT 🐐
Why did you put NASCAR in the title?
Friggin’ 427 Fairlane - amirite?
Mario won the Daytona 500 that year in that car.
nascar was cool back than
Lol was everyone drunk during this race?
that damn charger no2 B body acts as top heavy as it looks.
No pit wall. Nuts.
Back when NASCAR was powered by testosterone not estrogen!
Come on, other than the bushy brothers, who would that apply to?
Today, it's wimpy, wimpy, wimpy....bullcrap! Even F1 is has fallen into the same cookie cutter type of crap.
This is not a NASCAR race. It's the USAC Stock Car series. USAC was the same sanctioning body that ruled Indy Car back then. NASCAR never had anything as good as USAC, mostly because the drivers in USAC were better drivers - proven by the fact that whenever Andretti or Foyt or Unser or Jones competed in a NASCAR sanctioned event, they either won or ran very close to a win even though they were using substandard, temporary equipment and borrowed pit crews.
women bad
I thought the flagman was going to fly away.
427 wedge Fords against the Hemi and kicks it's ass. That why NASCAR outlawed or would put so much restriction on the Fords
the fastest car doesn't always win. That mopar took Parnelli's lunch money at the end albeit a lap down. Bad luck is the only reason the number 2 didn't take it
@@BMS06701 So what happened on the 1st lap. Where was LUCK then. Seems the Ford was faster when it counted. Don't get me wrong, I think the 67 Charger is a fantastic looking car. One of the best shapes in car racing. Just like my Ford's better!
Outlawed all engines that had power and guts. Today's crap isn't worth the trouble of changing channels...
FUCK YOU ASS BAG
Kicked it's ass?...In 67 Chrysler won 38 of the 49 Nascar races...Ford won 9...GM won 2.
Yep,Ford really kicked ass that year.
Those 427 Fairlanes we're so cool looking and fast, those fatback Charger's we're butt homely.
What Happened ?
where are all the chevys?
@jerryw66 . . . after the 1963 Daytona 500 (NASCAR), Chevy/GM ended all _official_ involvement with motorsports; and didn't get back into it until the early 1970s.
I brought up the emphasis of _official_ since there was a small development department in the Chevrolet division that was designated for doing (ahem!) *Heavy Duty* projects.
Was it mere coincidence that such heavy-duty Chevy parts and pieces ended up with independent race teams? (wink wink) such as with Chaparral Cars and Roger Penske?
For additional details, I strongly suggest getting the book: *"Chevrolet = Racing? 14 Years of Raucous Silence," by Paul Van Valkenburgh.*
Basically Chrysler and Ford put factory money into USAC and NASCAR stock car racing - GM did not. There was some rouge GM heavy duty work going on "off the books" but it was not enough to really do anything material in stock car racing in 1967. When Chrysler and Ford cut back spending in NASCAR to almost nothing in 1971 - the France family pressured GM to come into the sport - in part because it would be easier with no factory money - but also because Bill France was tired of the boycott games the other 2 companies had put NASCAR through in the 60s. The push to small block engines was mostly because that is what the GM teams wanted (the Hemi and Boss engines were way ahead of the Chevy Big Block in terms of R&D/racing parts - on pure design the canted valve head of the Chevy actually had plenty of potential) - going to the small block leveled the playing field. Unfortunately Ford/Mopar lagged Chevy in making racing parts available especially in the late 70s/early 80s so it became a GM dominated sport from 1976 to 1991 (in 1992 - the Ford teams all standardized on the Yates aluminum head and kicked the hell out of GM - but that is another story).
Absolute Gold!
Who needs chicanes after a half mile strait? Just a big, wide, flat sweeper ... that'll work.
Love this circuit.
Now pitting along the half mile straight? ... uh that's no bueno👎
Indycars ran here too ... circuit was config'd a bit different, as there's an entire additional road course portion west of the drag strip not used for the stock cars.
Old School racing
may 27????
Great race Ford powered forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it
I think Parnelli started it. (the incident before the green came out)
Thanks. We only saw White’s move. :)
I've often wondered if there was some bad blood between Don and Parnelli!
thanks usac . i eric stewart dreams of breaking age barrier in racing. i lost fifty pounds and can press one million one hundred thousand pounds a weekend. i am an american trucker in logging industry a knievel fan and biker kareoke singer day dreamer dad and i have electric ideas for the future. i want to qualify and win for bobby hillin jr and the allisons and foyt. and wilbur shaw . ceasers palace turned me down to do the triple jump for knievel every week and sing. happy trails. eric stewart monroe city indiana
THIS! If NASCRAP wants to increase viewership/attendance then get back to THIS kinda racing. Sure, keep most of the newer safety tech but let it be a free-for-all like it once was. Require that all drivers have to smoke and make em pound down a few beers before the race.
They won’t let the General Lee at the track because of the roof.
Do they have ANY idea who their fan base is?
Good point, Blanket.
@@sludge4125 the General Lee roof was offencive.period, End of story.
Wrong, jonny. That's your opinion. And your opinion isn't anymore valid than anyone else's. Obviously, you have a very large, *inaccurate* opinion of yourself.
End of story.
PS--Ever heard of spell check, child? Or grammar? I'm not surprised that you aren't very educated. My advice? Stay in school, and hope for the best. The world needs custodians and pot washers, too.
AMEN!!!
Not even a wall to make a seperate pit road. What could go wrong?
lol... why the is the speed of the film faster than normal, just to make the cars look fast....?
1960's and 70's NASCAR was good.
So, is it, or is it not, "a bus man's holiday" ?!
No wonder guys like Mario and A.J. did so well at Daytona. They had plenty of seat time in stock cars.
4:58 if he don't hurry to catch the tyre,the tyre or even the crew would hit by oncoming car
#3 in second row at start...Ray Fox Dodge Charger
Not Ray Fox. That car was owned by Ann & Rudy Hoerr from Illinois. The driver was Al Unser Sr. Their Dodges did look very similar to Ray Fox's cars.