It's so sad sm is not doing a solid thing to prevent it and it makes me so angry that we try to be understanding and respectful to them yet some shameless brainless people literally don't care about their privacy and life. I hope companies will do something all together to prevent this like prison or something
Nothing can top Lucas taking pic of the ssg and calling them out on his bbl bc the ssg followed WayV into a secret filming schedule and following the visions to the toilet, the story ab how Kun and Lucas got angry at Yangyang’s ssg who bought a plane ticket next to him. The same ssg who proceeded to create fake rumors and allegations against Lucas, resulting him in a hiatus.
@Visionbaby Just don’t fight with them. I get that you wanna protect Lucas and thats okay. But lucas himself would probably say don’t fight with someone because its really just useless. and expect them to go hard on you. If you wanna continue fighting with them then i guess its your choice. But fighting with them online is just rlly stupid & childish. So you brought this upon yourself if your starting to lose your sanity. And in the future, if your getting into fights it will 100% make you lose your sanity. In short, just don’t fight with people when you know its pointless & won’t change their mind.
It’s really sad and annoying how many times nct have suffered from sasaeng but their responses are always the best specially Jeno showing the sasaengs phone number and Yuta showing the middle finger but sm has to do something about these sasaengs smh
I don’t understand why SM doesn’t increase their security around NCT. For all idols in general. It infuriates me. This has been happening for years now. I hope with this new stalker law, sm finally does something. I remember when those crazy people got into their tour bus, I recall it so vividly because I went to one of their concerts that year. I’m so glad that most fans called them out for their insane behavior. I still don’t understand how the BUS DRIVER, let them in, and how THEY THOUGHT going into the tour bus was a great idea. Like come on now. Literally insane behavior, I’m glad one of them got charged. Y’all these crazy people aren’t fans, they’re stalkers and weirdos, remember that.
Couldn’t agree more with the comment it’s beyond ridiculous that SM entertainment doesn’t take the safety of their Artists seriously the continuing problems caused by the Sasaengs is getting worse and worse and the CEO and management needs to tighten security in order to protect their Artists better
because sasaengs spend so much money on their invasive and creepy tactics on the face value they want their idols to be healthy and look appealing as always and be nice pleasant etc but they just want the money still did anyone ask why the bus driver just let those people on their tour bus lol
Let's be realistic here. SM are not the best at a lot of things and have some history. But you can't pin a lot of these things on the company because realistically there is nothing that they can do for them. Phone numbers being sold off or given away are probably coming from individual people (personal "friends" or staff close to them), so what can SM really do about this, realistically? In the case of the tour bus, yes, that was a horrendous breach of privacy but again, it was one single idiot bus driver who let everyone down. This one incident isn't suddenly proof that tour buses are some ridiculous idea when some of the biggest artists of all time have done the same thing for decades. What's the alternative here for SM? Security around them has been decent to the point where fans *usually* can't get too close to them. The only thing that SM might be lacking in is legal action, but then that's an argument within a Korean legal system where this gets messy.
It really is always sm too... for me personally that Video of a taeyeon ssg coming on stage and just taking her with him comes to mind its terrifying and I can't imagine how scary that must be
Even if sm put saesang in jail or increases their security towards their artists IF the saesang has more connections or more wealthy than the company that seasang can have what he/she wants in just a snap we personally don't know some saesangs they could be a chaebol , they could be the Daughter or son of a billionaire we don't know.
Agreed SM entertainment needs to do a better job of Protecting NCT 127 and their other Artists from these delusional obsessive Sasaengs especially when they are stalking them on Social media leaking their personal information to the public. They deserve to live their lives in peace ☮️
I'm glad that korean laws are starting to change in favor of the idols who are victims of these type of behaviour. Imagine after having to worry about singing, dancing, acting, looking good, and be cautious with every single thing you say and do, you also have to worry about a bunch of strangers who are willing to go bankrupt and waste their own lifes just to try to get close to you, the amount of stress that those kind of situations put into the idols might be too much to handle .
Buying an airplane ticket just to stalk and sit beside an idol is just next level stalking. Imagine having to sit beside a stalker for an 8 hour flight? There's no where you can go on the plane to escape. Disgusting!!!!
Even that time Haechan was caught "drunk" on the street, it was a sasaeng. It was his free time, he was celebrating alongside friends and then a sasaeng felt they had the right to expose Haechan personal free time. Like???Absurd!
It's wrong that the members constantly have to deal with the harassment of sasesanges, the company are not doing enough to protect them, recently a new law came in so hopefully we will see an end to sasesanges stalker fans, they need to be properly dealt with so that the idols can be safe at all times
It's sad to see the members suffer because some strangers calling himself a "fan" literally follow them around just so that they could get close to them .. I think that as being a nctzen we all should respect the members privacy and don't let them being stressed out ......I hope people stope this behaviour and let them live a peaceful life 🥰
Back in the day, they had some that actually would hit fans if they got too weird. I guess since people got too sensitive and cry over everything, they had to stop it
Yuta showing the middle is probably the most baddest thing ive seen, but it just shows how pissed he is about sasaengs follwing him, if i was in his shoes i wouldve down worse, and not netizens getting mad about how doyoung shoved his camera into those sasaengs like how would those people like it if they were followed 24/7 .
It's missing all the Wayv experiences with ssg, that are really scary and extreme too. Lucas is on hiatus because THAT one ssg that's been following them since their debut. (Not making it a competition btw, just adding to the list :/ )
SM, y’all need to step up and protect the members and do better! Its so scary how often the NCT members have been harassed by sasaengs but I praise them for calling out these sasaengs because it takes a lot of guts to do such a thing!
I'm shocked by the amount of new "fansites" (actually sasaengs in the making) that appeared out of nowhere since they started touring again. Doyoung was even pushed to the ground by some a**holes at the airport earlier this year. And you know what? The fandom enables this behavior. These stalkers have SO MANY followers. People are thirsting for the pictures, the flight information, the rumours. As soon as the pictures are posted they get thousands of likes and then are reposted by big fan accounts. The fandom is also responsible. I'll just say this: you are NOT a NCTzen if you support sasaengs. They're not just "pretty pictures", the neos are suffering because of it and you're part of the problem.
Unfortunately normal fans don't know what is difference between picture taken by ssng or not they don't so it's not normal healthy fans fault I mean if they don't know how would they get blamed for it
@@sadiqazia5100 sorry, but that isn't an excuse. sasaeng pictures don't pop out out of nowhere. if you find sasaeng accounts it means you already stan the group and have been interacting with fan accounts for that group. and telling the difference is common sense. I'm a "normal fan" like you say, and I know when the pictures have a lot of zoom or too close to the idol, are taken at airports, at places where pictures aren't allowed, private schedules or from behind a tree, that it was taken by a stalker, it really isn't that hard to tell. plus idols never look happy when they look at sasaeng's cameras. there's no excuse for supporting sasaengs. if you're a kpop fan you can recognize their work easily.
@@ttom8875 well unfortunately you are right in this .. I just said we aren't culprit if we know it's picture from ssng we don't see it but some fans don't know source that's well could be excuse or not I don't know I was just telling you facts cause I'm also nctzen since 2018 dear
let's not forget fansite masters in the vents during the 90s love unit twitter blue room and the jaehyun fansite that takes pictures hidden in trees and bushes... sme's inability to handle these problems even since the tvxq and exo days is shameful
I never understood why people get mad when idols clap back. V from bts did the same thing out his phone in front my sasaengs and people got mad at him too. Like why is it ok for them to do it but not idols. It’s not hard to just respect your so called favs
I wouldn't go so far to say that SM isn't doing a thing to protect their artists. If you know how the world works, large conglomerates have influence over politics and laws. I'm pretty sure the Big 3 had a say in the new Korean law which makes stalking a criminal offense. I know we all want to blame the company when an idol is threatened. It's just easy to do that. But with how the law works, you have to get completely solid evidence before you can prosecute. I do think, however, that SM needs to do better PR when addressing the accusations against their idol. Especially in a way that does not compromise any current legal action.
I don't understand how people really want to do this to their idols. Of course, we love them, but it's not cool to try and run up into their personal life, any chance you get, even if there is no chance. Stop. No matter what idols say or do, why can't you just stop? This isn't cool. SM, you need to do something. It's truly getting out of hand.
It seems like saesang issues are more severe with SM artists like saesangs breaking and entering SUJU's dorm, a saesang dragging Taeyeon down with him from the stage and was it kai or tao being recorded when he was in hotel ect. SM should increase their security and take these acts more seriously.
Even if I see Nct in public ...I would so be afraid to approach them since I fear that they might think I am a saseang...so maybe I might just politelyvadk for pics with them....even if they refuse I will immediately back off...but unfortunately thats impossible sincevI live in South Africa😭😅
I'm telling u if I ever go anywhere and I see idols I wouldn't go up to them I wouldnt film them either.. unless it's a fan sign or concert where it's allowed and appropriate I mean it's not that hard to control yourself they humans to.. i just couldn't be part of the group that terrorizes idols no matter who it is
05:56 ok yeah yuta flipping off a sasaeng is badass or whatever but lETS TALK ABOUT THIS DOYOUNG LIKE I WOULDA DONE THE SAME. but no seriously these “fans” are absolutely disgusting and it absolutely astonishes me how they can live with themselves.
This is another reason why celebrity culture is a problem. I’m sorry but SK’s idol industry itself needs to change how it presents idols. The idols are supposed to act like pseudo-boyfriends / girlfriends. Fans get upset about dating as then they can’t live in their sick imaginations that their favorite idols will fall in love with them. This is not to say that saesangs are excused for their actions. Not at all. But the perception of idols needs to changed so that people see their humanity & dont blindly IDOLize them.
It does. I think they need to make dating, having friends, hanging out, living life like a human be, normal. Fans might cry at the start, but they'll get use to it, eventually
I’m not terribly familiar with nct but this is ridiculous and scary. I love that they call the sasaengs out but they shouldn’t have to. Hopefully the new law helps these companies protect the idols. As a Stay I was horrified when JYP put out the statement about SKZ’s sasaengs getting into their dorm building and even into the elevators. They said they were going to take action. I hope they do. No idol deserves this. Personally I think an example needs to be made of these sasaengs to hopefully discourage the behavior. They’ve been getting away with it for far too long
I think that's his cup, not hand. Case in point: The proportions of Yuta's hand seem really off when he's "giving the middle finger" I mean, that finger is the same width the entire length. And the joint around the thumb is awkward. It looks like he switched which hand was holding the cup and straw and waved that in the air.
That's what i thaught. The proportions are weird. And you can also recognise it by colour because his "hand" looks really white and the cup was also white.
These young celebrities should call out these sasaengs. I remember being into the performing arts and had gained a little bit of popularity and have been in awkward situations. I wanted to be liked but was scared too.
Why are ppl so weird? The absurd obsession has to be frightening! I'm glad that the boys address this. I'm glad that their security takes these dummies out!
SM's groups definitely have the most scary and the most creepy ssgs out there. It still baffles me how SM didn't take this seriously and instead of taking action to make the boys become safer and more comfortable they keep selling their merch and pushing projects :D
Taeyong may be scared when theyre after him, but he still protects all his members from them, no matter what. Ill never understand what goes through their heads, how they think this will turn out good for them smdh
It’s funny people want to blame SM but it’s really the people’s fault for not recognizing that they are just young men trying to live their own lives. They have just as much if not more of a right for privacy not just to be constantly in the public eye because they are idols.
@@LovelyKissess The proportions would be way too off for it to be his middle finger. His hand would be huge and the finger very long. Also you can see a slight colour difference. The "finger" and the part right underneath it look lighter than the rest of his hand and arm. So i really think it's the white cup he was holding earlier.
@@klaramell Well he was t holding the cup in his hand so the only way that's possible is if he took the straw out of the cup. Then what would be the purpose of holding it up? Plus middle fingers are the longest finger and can look longer when all others are down. Guess we'll never truly know
@@LovelyKissess no no, i meant he holds the whole cup in his hand not just the straw. That's what i meant when i said his "hand" looks huge and white, because i think it's actually the cup not the back of his hand.
I'm writing this knowing that there's probably a good reason why they don't do this, but why don't idols keep their phone alerts off during lives? I'm not saying it's them necessarily who should change their behaviour because they're not at fault, but they could divert all calls or put them on silent so they could still watch the comments, or use a completely different phone to check, one that blocks incoming calls, or even that doesn't have a sim. The sasaengs just want to cause as much disruption as they can with their attention seeking because they must know that they're not going to get answered, but idols pleas for them not to call are giving them the atention they want. Idk if the new stalking laws in SK cover this kind of thing, but if you think of sasaengs acting this way to a non celeb, it would definitely be stalking or harrasment. It's about time the entertainment companies and management addressed this, and employees stopped selling everyone's details.
In most of this situations NCT members were using their phones datas or were using it to show something that's why we noticed sassaengs calling them. But the thing is they only call during live to make sure the number is real and then later they call them. Jeno has already changed his numbers multiple times.
@@dncm5405 What I'm saying is that if sasaengs called during a live to make sure the idol's number is real, and the idol's phone didn't ring or the call just didn't get through because the phone was on 'do not disturb' - or the sim wasn't in - then there'd be the possibility that the sasaeng would assume the number they had was wrong - and not call. It's the idols reactions that they want, just any attention. And who knows, if they thought the number they'd bought wasn't real then they'd call out the person that sold it to them, even if it was just amongst other sasaengs. I've only got a basic, cheap smartphone but any numbers that ring that aren't recognised I can immediately block & report. But let's face it, the real reason the information's out there is that company employees - and who knows how many of them are sasaengs themselves or friends of them - are selling the new numbers as soon as idols get them. They should just give their managers number to all the staff that might need to contact them and keep their numbers private!
In some ways the phone issues seem easy to fix. It happens repeatedly though. I have wondered if it is done on purpose, by the company. It creates attention, and it creates sympathy for the idol... Similar to how they parade the idols through the airport, putting them and many others at risk of injury,
@@cameo403 I get your point. About the phone issues, I genuinely think that there must be a way around it, and if it was a problem I was facing then I would have a phone with a sim just for myself, members and family, and another sim for manager and staff. They don't have to have phones on lives, they could use tablets to read and respond to comments. It's not complicated. And I agree about the airport. Not all idols or their company's have enough money to hire private planes (I assume chartering means you don't have to go through public terminals) so they should give them better security. And I've got no doubt that some companies welcome the hysteria, especially with rookie groups but it's got ridiculous, and it's obviously frightening. I love to read and watch what the groups I stan are doing but I don't watch what's been posted by crazy people jumping on idols just to get a photo they can sell or a video they want likes for. A lot of it is business as money can be made by selling info or pictures.The thing is, once the attention for groups has started it just escalates into chaos as they get more popular. There must be a kind of competition between the obsessed 'fans' to see who has done the worst thing. It's frightening.
@Sleepy Sarah. There are ways to secure a phone, these things are just too common with idols. That's why I am starting to think it's a bit suspicious, as to who is behind it. As far as the airport chaos, all the hype is exactly what the companies want. Most countries, other than SKorea would not and do not allow such behaviour of VIPs parading through the airport creating a hazard. Major airports have specific areas for VIPs to prevent chaos. But, as idols are so financially viable to Korea, they encourage and allow them going through the airport.
I can't believe this is a thing. How can people be like this??? Its crazy for someone to be this entitled to someone elses personal space and time. How can these crazies not feel terrible with violating someone's rights like that???
Honestly SM entertainment artists have the worst sasaeng fans ever in my opinion , if you know you know . I wish that SM would finally do something to protect all their artists NCT included obviously because they hardly ever do anything about. Like U-Know of TVXQ literally wouldn’t have orange juice for years due to the traumatizing experience he had .
I thought there was a law against sasaengs. Now it's sasaengs from America? SM entertainment, what the hell are you guys doing to put a stop to this? Edit: NCT 127, if you guys want a new bodyguard, I know someone... Me! I'm so good with punches and kicks, and slaps too. I can even buy you new SIM cards, doesn't matter how much you need. Just tell me what you guys need 😅😅😤😤😤 I'll do anything to make you guys feel safe ☺️ *Don't mind me. The above edit is just a light-hearted joke. I just wish SM entertainment could do something about the issue. And I also wish that there was something so big I can do to help. But there's a large community of these sorts of people. And then, it's just me. Eotteoke 😭😭😭💔*
The one with Doyoung, like I guess stalker fans didn't like it so much when the tables were (mildly) turned on them. See? Nobody likes cameras shoved in their faces and being filmed without consent!
Hi guys. I'm genuinely curious as to what fans can ask from idols when you meet them. In this video, the narrator said that NCT would be happy to give out autographs to fans if they meet them coincidentally. I'd like to ask for you opinion since I'm genuinely ignorant. Is it okay to approach them? Ask for a signture? A photo? TIA
I think just like with other celebrities that if you run in to them on the street by accident being polite and ask “hi I’m a big fan of yours if it’s okay could we take a picture?” And then thank them afterwards. And if they say no just accept it because if they don’t want to that’s okay. Just be polite and don’t fallow them around.
I think it depends on situation and the body language. Like, there's nothing wrong about asking for picture or signature if they're not in a rush or something.
I just really want all of those total big time sasaengs out there to learn how to respect the privacy and space of their favorite K-Pop idol groups from time to time. And ummmmm, that ESPECIALLY goes for NCT 127 here in this case. I know that they really do love the group and everything that they really do without a doubt BUT they should just simply learn how to show their love, support and respect for the boy group in just REALLY a much more healthy and non-toxic way. Ya'll get what i'm saying here? To be more specific here in this case, um, all of those female sasaengs out there should just bring them to stop calling them up quite constantly, following them around, sending them such creepy ass stuff, ummmm, etc., etc. Ya'll get the idea. So ummmm, yeah. It's time for these sasaengs to just ENTIRELY dumb it down and stop with all of that toxic fan culture.
Sm needs to do smth about this it's getting out of hand too much istg if I ever had to choose between sm or jyp prolly jyp they took immediate action against sasaengs but sm doesn't give a shit about it
I would love to hear a sasaeng's background for once to see any reason why they would do this. It makes sense if they didn't get any love from family or they are often lonely.
And now Renjun is getting something to stop the sasaeng but fans are getting mad at Renjun. he himself said that the number is been calling him multiple times. and now he apologize some fans are mad at him because he did something wrong. nope he didn't.. sasaeng would do something to ruined the idol now she did.. lmao I don't believe her reason about miss calling a friend. she's a liar
Well, this kinda makes them popular, the "fans" of these idols are mostly teenagers and it comes with the territory considering what companies want to embody for this idol product. Frankly this subject is kinda funny.
@@nnn9854 a lot of idols put their phones on do not disturb when they’re doing vlives specifically for the reason of randoms calling them. their staff/team should know when they’re doing a vlive, so they won’t try to reach them during that time/they’re in the room with them lol
OK so from what I gather from making a purse OK making a Bruisin been with not getting their permission and bad like really bad good creepy start deal level of dangerous and dark at the same time and I don’t like little obsessive and you think about it because I know people love their people but you don’t make anybody mad without letting them make it first but if they don’t ask you for help you don’t help numbers OK
Anyone, and I mean anyone, who has stalkers (that is what they are), should never hesitate to call them out, call police, whatever needs to be done. It's disgraceful. The bus driver most likely lost his job, as he should have. These are not fans. There is something wrong with them. Turn the situation around: how would they like it if someone did to this them? I gather, not so much. It's selfish and sick. Delusional. Watching this video just makes me mad.
To this day, Yuta flipping off sasaengs remains one of the best things to happen in k-pop history.
YESSS
It's so sad sm is not doing a solid thing to prevent it and it makes me so angry that we try to be understanding and respectful to them yet some shameless brainless people literally don't care about their privacy and life. I hope companies will do something all together to prevent this like prison or something
Nothing can top Lucas taking pic of the ssg and calling them out on his bbl bc the ssg followed WayV into a secret filming schedule and following the visions to the toilet, the story ab how Kun and Lucas got angry at Yangyang’s ssg who bought a plane ticket next to him. The same ssg who proceeded to create fake rumors and allegations against Lucas, resulting him in a hiatus.
I was looking for this comment!!! Aaaaaaaah i'm so mad rn
...and still stalking and attending group promotions after making said allegations.....The craziness is unreal.
@Visionbaby don't fight with them it has no point, they aren't going to change their opinions
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@Visionbaby Just don’t fight with them. I get that you wanna protect Lucas and thats okay. But lucas himself would probably say don’t fight with someone because its really just useless. and expect them to go hard on you. If you wanna continue fighting with them then i guess its your choice. But fighting with them online is just rlly stupid & childish. So you brought this upon yourself if your starting to lose your sanity. And in the future, if your getting into fights it will 100% make you lose your sanity. In short, just don’t fight with people when you know its pointless & won’t change their mind.
I loved it when Renjun took Jeno’s phone and told that person to stop calling. He may be the smallest member of Dream but he is fierce.
It’s really sad and annoying how many times nct have suffered from sasaeng but their responses are always the best specially Jeno showing the sasaengs phone number and Yuta showing the middle finger but sm has to do something about these sasaengs smh
I don’t understand why SM doesn’t increase their security around NCT. For all idols in general. It infuriates me. This has been happening for years now. I hope with this new stalker law, sm finally does something. I remember when those crazy people got into their tour bus, I recall it so vividly because I went to one of their concerts that year. I’m so glad that most fans called them out for their insane behavior. I still don’t understand how the BUS DRIVER, let them in, and how THEY THOUGHT going into the tour bus was a great idea. Like come on now. Literally insane behavior, I’m glad one of them got charged. Y’all these crazy people aren’t fans, they’re stalkers and weirdos, remember that.
Couldn’t agree more with the comment it’s beyond ridiculous that SM entertainment doesn’t take the safety of their Artists seriously the continuing problems caused by the Sasaengs is getting worse and worse and the CEO and management needs to tighten security in order to protect their Artists better
because sasaengs spend so much money on their invasive and creepy tactics on the face value they want their idols to be healthy and look appealing as always and be nice pleasant etc but they just want the money still did anyone ask why the bus driver just let those people on their tour bus lol
Let's be realistic here. SM are not the best at a lot of things and have some history. But you can't pin a lot of these things on the company because realistically there is nothing that they can do for them. Phone numbers being sold off or given away are probably coming from individual people (personal "friends" or staff close to them), so what can SM really do about this, realistically?
In the case of the tour bus, yes, that was a horrendous breach of privacy but again, it was one single idiot bus driver who let everyone down. This one incident isn't suddenly proof that tour buses are some ridiculous idea when some of the biggest artists of all time have done the same thing for decades. What's the alternative here for SM?
Security around them has been decent to the point where fans *usually* can't get too close to them. The only thing that SM might be lacking in is legal action, but then that's an argument within a Korean legal system where this gets messy.
It really is always sm too... for me personally that Video of a taeyeon ssg coming on stage and just taking her with him comes to mind its terrifying and I can't imagine how scary that must be
Even if sm put saesang in jail or increases their security towards their artists IF the saesang has more connections or more wealthy than the company that seasang can have what he/she wants in just a snap we personally don't know some saesangs they could be a chaebol , they could be the Daughter or son of a billionaire we don't know.
Yuta’s middle finger will forever be iconic
Agreed SM entertainment needs to do a better job of Protecting NCT 127 and their other Artists from these delusional obsessive Sasaengs especially when they are stalking them on Social media leaking their personal information to the public. They deserve to live their lives in peace ☮️
Getting into the bus and taking pictures and everything and girl still has the audacity to tell that she wasn’t invading their privacy ☺️
I'm glad that korean laws are starting to change in favor of the idols who are victims of these type of behaviour. Imagine after having to worry about singing, dancing, acting, looking good, and be cautious with every single thing you say and do, you also have to worry about a bunch of strangers who are willing to go bankrupt and waste their own lifes just to try to get close to you, the amount of stress that those kind of situations put into the idols might be too much to handle .
ive def heard of NCT but i dont stan them , hats off to them for handling all of these situation so professionally
Buying an airplane ticket just to stalk and sit beside an idol is just next level stalking. Imagine having to sit beside a stalker for an 8 hour flight? There's no where you can go on the plane to escape. Disgusting!!!!
Even that time Haechan was caught "drunk" on the street, it was a sasaeng. It was his free time, he was celebrating alongside friends and then a sasaeng felt they had the right to expose Haechan personal free time. Like???Absurd!
It's wrong that the members constantly have to deal with the harassment of sasesanges, the company are not doing enough to protect them, recently a new law came in so hopefully we will see an end to sasesanges stalker fans, they need to be properly dealt with so that the idols can be safe at all times
I swear I see you everwhere
It's sad to see the members suffer because some strangers calling himself a "fan" literally follow them around just so that they could get close to them ..
I think that as being a nctzen we all should respect the members privacy and don't let them being stressed out ......I hope people stope this behaviour and let them live a peaceful life 🥰
We need to normalize bodyguards doing their job protecting these idols in anyway possible even if it means they need to get a bit aggressive.
Back in the day, they had some that actually would hit fans if they got too weird. I guess since people got too sensitive and cry over everything, they had to stop it
Yuta showing the middle is probably the most baddest thing ive seen, but it just shows how pissed he is about sasaengs follwing him, if i was in his shoes i wouldve down worse, and not netizens getting mad about how doyoung shoved his camera into those sasaengs like how would those people like it if they were followed 24/7 .
It's missing all the Wayv experiences with ssg, that are really scary and extreme too. Lucas is on hiatus because THAT one ssg that's been following them since their debut.
(Not making it a competition btw, just adding to the list :/ )
yet again there was a crazy girl entering into jaehyun's hotel room recently when will they ever be protected sm?
Idols are humans, like us. They deserve privacy. Just leave them alone after you're done seeing their concerts, Vlive and stuff.
SM, y’all need to step up and protect the members and do better! Its so scary how often the NCT members have been harassed by sasaengs but I praise them for calling out these sasaengs because it takes a lot of guts to do such a thing!
I'm shocked by the amount of new "fansites" (actually sasaengs in the making) that appeared out of nowhere since they started touring again. Doyoung was even pushed to the ground by some a**holes at the airport earlier this year. And you know what? The fandom enables this behavior. These stalkers have SO MANY followers. People are thirsting for the pictures, the flight information, the rumours. As soon as the pictures are posted they get thousands of likes and then are reposted by big fan accounts. The fandom is also responsible. I'll just say this: you are NOT a NCTzen if you support sasaengs. They're not just "pretty pictures", the neos are suffering because of it and you're part of the problem.
Unfortunately normal fans don't know what is difference between picture taken by ssng or not they don't so it's not normal healthy fans fault I mean if they don't know how would they get blamed for it
@@sadiqazia5100 sorry, but that isn't an excuse. sasaeng pictures don't pop out out of nowhere. if you find sasaeng accounts it means you already stan the group and have been interacting with fan accounts for that group. and telling the difference is common sense. I'm a "normal fan" like you say, and I know when the pictures have a lot of zoom or too close to the idol, are taken at airports, at places where pictures aren't allowed, private schedules or from behind a tree, that it was taken by a stalker, it really isn't that hard to tell. plus idols never look happy when they look at sasaeng's cameras. there's no excuse for supporting sasaengs. if you're a kpop fan you can recognize their work easily.
@@ttom8875 well unfortunately you are right in this .. I just said we aren't culprit if we know it's picture from ssng we don't see it but some fans don't know source that's well could be excuse or not I don't know I was just telling you facts cause I'm also nctzen since 2018 dear
@@ttom8875 it's still makes me angry how things are lately but recently Korea announced a law I hope things get better now
Being a K-pop idol sounds exhausting the stalkers plus the crazy companies it’s a no win situation
I was stalk for two years. Even though I'm not a celebrity I fear for my life. This is no small issue.
the members deserve better :/ SM doing the bare minimum even though these incidents keep happening upsets me so much.
let's not forget fansite masters in the vents during the 90s love unit twitter blue room and the jaehyun fansite that takes pictures hidden in trees and bushes... sme's inability to handle these problems even since the tvxq and exo days is shameful
As if SM ever cared for their idols.
Wayv also has absolutely insane ssg stories, so crazy and disgusting.
Lucas' accusers being sasaengs is still crazy to me sasaengs r scary
I will never understand how people can do this to other humans. They're PEOPLE not fictional characters. Leave them alone.
I love how the members stand up for themselves. I hope these sasaengs stop invading the members privacy
I never understood why people get mad when idols clap back. V from bts did the same thing out his phone in front my sasaengs and people got mad at him too. Like why is it ok for them to do it but not idols. It’s not hard to just respect your so called favs
I wouldn't go so far to say that SM isn't doing a thing to protect their artists. If you know how the world works, large conglomerates have influence over politics and laws. I'm pretty sure the Big 3 had a say in the new Korean law which makes stalking a criminal offense.
I know we all want to blame the company when an idol is threatened. It's just easy to do that. But with how the law works, you have to get completely solid evidence before you can prosecute.
I do think, however, that SM needs to do better PR when addressing the accusations against their idol. Especially in a way that does not compromise any current legal action.
I don't understand how people really want to do this to their idols. Of course, we love them, but it's not cool to try and run up into their personal life, any chance you get, even if there is no chance. Stop. No matter what idols say or do, why can't you just stop? This isn't cool. SM, you need to do something. It's truly getting out of hand.
As an Sm stan, it's just another normal day around Smcu~ 💀
It seems like saesang issues are more severe with SM artists like saesangs breaking and entering SUJU's dorm, a saesang dragging Taeyeon down with him from the stage and was it kai or tao being recorded when he was in hotel ect. SM should increase their security and take these acts more seriously.
Even if I see Nct in public ...I would so be afraid to approach them since I fear that they might think I am a saseang...so maybe I might just politelyvadk for pics with them....even if they refuse I will immediately back off...but unfortunately thats impossible sincevI live in South Africa😭😅
I'm telling u if I ever go anywhere and I see idols I wouldn't go up to them I wouldnt film them either.. unless it's a fan sign or concert where it's allowed and appropriate I mean it's not that hard to control yourself they humans to.. i just couldn't be part of the group that terrorizes idols no matter who it is
05:56 ok yeah yuta flipping off a sasaeng is badass or whatever but lETS TALK ABOUT THIS DOYOUNG LIKE I WOULDA DONE THE SAME.
but no seriously these “fans” are absolutely disgusting and it absolutely astonishes me how they can live with themselves.
This is another reason why celebrity culture is a problem. I’m sorry but SK’s idol industry itself needs to change how it presents idols. The idols are supposed to act like pseudo-boyfriends / girlfriends. Fans get upset about dating as then they can’t live in their sick imaginations that their favorite idols will fall in love with them. This is not to say that saesangs are excused for their actions. Not at all. But the perception of idols needs to changed so that people see their humanity & dont blindly IDOLize them.
It does. I think they need to make dating, having friends, hanging out, living life like a human be, normal. Fans might cry at the start, but they'll get use to it, eventually
first also i think nct has been though soo much it’s so crazy how they take this so far
I’m not terribly familiar with nct but this is ridiculous and scary. I love that they call the sasaengs out but they shouldn’t have to. Hopefully the new law helps these companies protect the idols. As a Stay I was horrified when JYP put out the statement about SKZ’s sasaengs getting into their dorm building and even into the elevators. They said they were going to take action. I hope they do. No idol deserves this. Personally I think an example needs to be made of these sasaengs to hopefully discourage the behavior. They’ve been getting away with it for far too long
I think that's his cup, not hand.
Case in point: The proportions of Yuta's hand seem really off when he's "giving the middle finger" I mean, that finger is the same width the entire length. And the joint around the thumb is awkward. It looks like he switched which hand was holding the cup and straw and waved that in the air.
That's what i thaught. The proportions are weird. And you can also recognise it by colour because his "hand" looks really white and the cup was also white.
These young celebrities should call out these sasaengs. I remember being into the performing arts and had gained a little bit of popularity and have been in awkward situations. I wanted to be liked but was scared too.
Why are ppl so weird? The absurd obsession has to be frightening! I'm glad that the boys address this. I'm glad that their security takes these dummies out!
SM's groups definitely have the most scary and the most creepy ssgs out there. It still baffles me how SM didn't take this seriously and instead of taking action to make the boys become safer and more comfortable they keep selling their merch and pushing projects :D
Stay strong bros.
Taeyong may be scared when theyre after him, but he still protects all his members from them, no matter what. Ill never understand what goes through their heads, how they think this will turn out good for them smdh
It’s funny people want to blame SM but it’s really the people’s fault for not recognizing that they are just young men trying to live their own lives. They have just as much if not more of a right for privacy not just to be constantly in the public eye because they are idols.
yuta did good there, thats the way to do it lmao
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I don't think it's his middle finger but the straw of the cup we saw him holding earlier
That's definitely a middle finger. There's no cup visible in that hand to think that
@@LovelyKissess The proportions would be way too off for it to be his middle finger. His hand would be huge and the finger very long. Also you can see a slight colour difference. The "finger" and the part right underneath it look lighter than the rest of his hand and arm. So i really think it's the white cup he was holding earlier.
@@klaramell Well he was t holding the cup in his hand so the only way that's possible is if he took the straw out of the cup. Then what would be the purpose of holding it up? Plus middle fingers are the longest finger and can look longer when all others are down. Guess we'll never truly know
@@LovelyKissess no no, i meant he holds the whole cup in his hand not just the straw. That's what i meant when i said his "hand" looks huge and white, because i think it's actually the cup not the back of his hand.
@@klaramell Oh okay. It doesn't look like a cup to me, but you could also be right
I'm writing this knowing that there's probably a good reason why they don't do this, but why don't idols keep their phone alerts off during lives? I'm not saying it's them necessarily who should change their behaviour because they're not at fault, but they could divert all calls or put them on silent so they could still watch the comments, or use a completely different phone to check, one that blocks incoming calls, or even that doesn't have a sim. The sasaengs just want to cause as much disruption as they can with their attention seeking because they must know that they're not going to get answered, but idols pleas for them not to call are giving them the atention they want. Idk if the new stalking laws in SK cover this kind of thing, but if you think of sasaengs acting this way to a non celeb, it would definitely be stalking or harrasment. It's about time the entertainment companies and management addressed this, and employees stopped selling everyone's details.
In most of this situations NCT members were using their phones datas or were using it to show something that's why we noticed sassaengs calling them.
But the thing is they only call during live to make sure the number is real and then later they call them. Jeno has already changed his numbers multiple times.
@@dncm5405 What I'm saying is that if sasaengs called during a live to make sure the idol's number is real, and the idol's phone didn't ring or the call just didn't get through because the phone was on 'do not disturb' - or the sim wasn't in - then there'd be the possibility that the sasaeng would assume the number they had was wrong - and not call. It's the idols reactions that they want, just any attention. And who knows, if they thought the number they'd bought wasn't real then they'd call out the person that sold it to them, even if it was just amongst other sasaengs. I've only got a basic, cheap smartphone but any numbers that ring that aren't recognised I can immediately block & report. But let's face it, the real reason the information's out there is that company employees - and who knows how many of them are sasaengs themselves or friends of them - are selling the new numbers as soon as idols get them. They should just give their managers number to all the staff that might need to contact them and keep their numbers private!
In some ways the phone issues seem easy to fix. It happens repeatedly though. I have wondered if it is done on purpose, by the company. It creates attention, and it creates sympathy for the idol... Similar to how they parade the idols through the airport, putting them and many others at risk of injury,
@@cameo403 I get your point. About the phone issues, I genuinely think that there must be a way around it, and if it was a problem I was facing then I would have a phone with a sim just for myself, members and family, and another sim for manager and staff. They don't have to have phones on lives, they could use tablets to read and respond to comments. It's not complicated. And I agree about the airport. Not all idols or their company's have enough money to hire private planes (I assume chartering means you don't have to go through public terminals) so they should give them better security. And I've got no doubt that some companies welcome the hysteria, especially with rookie groups but it's got ridiculous, and it's obviously frightening. I love to read and watch what the groups I stan are doing but I don't watch what's been posted by crazy people jumping on idols just to get a photo they can sell or a video they want likes for. A lot of it is business as money can be made by selling info or pictures.The thing is, once the attention for groups has started it just escalates into chaos as they get more popular. There must be a kind of competition between the obsessed 'fans' to see who has done the worst thing. It's frightening.
@Sleepy Sarah. There are ways to secure a phone, these things are just too common with idols. That's why I am starting to think it's a bit suspicious, as to who is behind it.
As far as the airport chaos, all the hype is exactly what the companies want. Most countries, other than SKorea would not and do not allow such behaviour of VIPs parading through the airport creating a hazard. Major airports have specific areas for VIPs to prevent chaos. But, as idols are so financially viable to Korea, they encourage and allow them going through the airport.
I can't believe this is a thing. How can people be like this??? Its crazy for someone to be this entitled to someone elses personal space and time. How can these crazies not feel terrible with violating someone's rights like that???
Good Video ❤ Thank you😊
Honestly SM entertainment artists have the worst sasaeng fans ever in my opinion , if you know you know .
I wish that SM would finally do something to protect all their artists NCT included obviously because they hardly ever do anything about.
Like U-Know of TVXQ literally wouldn’t have orange juice for years due to the traumatizing experience he had .
I thought there was a law against sasaengs. Now it's sasaengs from America? SM entertainment, what the hell are you guys doing to put a stop to this?
Edit: NCT 127, if you guys want a new bodyguard, I know someone... Me! I'm so good with punches and kicks, and slaps too. I can even buy you new SIM cards, doesn't matter how much you need. Just tell me what you guys need 😅😅😤😤😤 I'll do anything to make you guys feel safe ☺️
*Don't mind me. The above edit is just a light-hearted joke. I just wish SM entertainment could do something about the issue. And I also wish that there was something so big I can do to help. But there's a large community of these sorts of people. And then, it's just me. Eotteoke 😭😭😭💔*
The one with Doyoung, like I guess stalker fans didn't like it so much when the tables were (mildly) turned on them. See? Nobody likes cameras shoved in their faces and being filmed without consent!
The only thing that stairs me is how the hell do they manage to get there numbers and know if they changed it cuss that’s creepy as heck
I think you're pronouncing NCT's fandom name wrong, KOOKIELIT...lol.
You say, "en see tee zens," but I'm pretty sure the members say, "en citizens."
Hi guys. I'm genuinely curious as to what fans can ask from idols when you meet them. In this video, the narrator said that NCT would be happy to give out autographs to fans if they meet them coincidentally.
I'd like to ask for you opinion since I'm genuinely ignorant. Is it okay to approach them? Ask for a signture? A photo? TIA
I think just like with other celebrities that if you run in to them on the street by accident being polite and ask “hi I’m a big fan of yours if it’s okay could we take a picture?” And then thank them afterwards. And if they say no just accept it because if they don’t want to that’s okay. Just be polite and don’t fallow them around.
See they have private schedules that they don't share to fans but some psycho fans approach there also
If you meet them respect them and ask if they are comfortable with autograph and photo but remember don't invade them
I think it depends on situation and the body language. Like, there's nothing wrong about asking for picture or signature if they're not in a rush or something.
Thanks, everyone!
Why does the security have their name on their shirt? It’s like they want the members to get all this attention instead of keeping them safe 😢
I just really want all of those total big time sasaengs out there to learn how to respect the privacy and space of their favorite K-Pop idol groups from time to time. And ummmmm, that ESPECIALLY goes for NCT 127 here in this case. I know that they really do love the group and everything that they really do without a doubt BUT they should just simply learn how to show their love, support and respect for the boy group in just REALLY a much more healthy and non-toxic way. Ya'll get what i'm saying here? To be more specific here in this case, um, all of those female sasaengs out there should just bring them to stop calling them up quite constantly, following them around, sending them such creepy ass stuff, ummmm, etc., etc. Ya'll get the idea. So ummmm, yeah. It's time for these sasaengs to just ENTIRELY dumb it down and stop with all of that toxic fan culture.
Why does NCT got so many saessengs seriously
SK should create a law that allowing IDOLS to EXPOSE those Sasaengs Numbers. 😂😂😂
i not sure why , but phone calling can be avoid by just block the number right ?
These sasaengs really need mass interventions.
6:19 are u kidding me? lmao, THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASK THEMSELVES WHENEVER IS OTHER PEOPLE DOING IT TO THEM
Nct's sasaengs are WILD
How do sasaengs even get ahold of their numbers.
Money and illegal methods.
thats not hs middle finger thats the drinks straw
Y'all remember that saseng who tried to bump.into jhope and literally the body guard threw her in the bin🤣🤣🤣🤣it will never not be funny
My alt group just always gets the worst 😭
Sm needs to do smth about this it's getting out of hand too much istg if I ever had to choose between sm or jyp prolly jyp they took immediate action against sasaengs but sm doesn't give a shit about it
Its let me want to know more about Sasaengs's background
Did they didnt get any love by their parents?
I would love to hear a sasaeng's background for once to see any reason why they would do this. It makes sense if they didn't get any love from family or they are often lonely.
Gotta love the "I'm sorry if..." nonpology. Apologise for what you did and not for other's reaction.
SM YOU FAILED TO PROTECT EXO ATLEAST PROTECT NCT
BRO SM DOESN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT 😐
Uuff, obsession can be scary 😨
And now Renjun is getting something to stop the sasaeng but fans are getting mad at Renjun. he himself said that the number is been calling him multiple times. and now he apologize some fans are mad at him because he did something wrong. nope he didn't.. sasaeng would do something to ruined the idol now she did.. lmao I don't believe her reason about miss calling a friend. she's a liar
SM entertainment needs to protect their artists from sasaengs. The amount of Sasaengs are behind NCT and EXO is unbelievable.
I hope people expose the face of those sasaeng idk why away they blur it nope don't do it just expose em to the whole world
fyi, incase ur blind, the "middle finger" is the juice and the straw , athough done with same midset
this video will for sure blow up 💀(hopefully)
Well, this kinda makes them popular, the "fans" of these idols are mostly teenagers and it comes with the territory considering what companies want to embody for this idol product. Frankly this subject is kinda funny.
Istg if i happened to be a kpop idol i would've leaked the ssg's numbers-
Is it hard to protect artist from sasaengs?? I really don't understand sm. They just don't care
2:49 When was this??
seems like it was during 2baddies era when they did the morning fanmeet at music show
nice video
why not switch your phone off when doing a live?
The tes that we're noticing the sassaengs calling the boys are when they're using their phones data therefore the phone is on
I swear you've already posted this 😭
Deju maybe idk
Saseangs,Oh God plz give these people some sense.......
why don’t they just …. put their phone on do not disturb???
they’re idols with busy schedules. what if they need to be reached..?
@@nnn9854 a lot of idols put their phones on do not disturb when they’re doing vlives specifically for the reason of randoms calling them. their staff/team should know when they’re doing a vlive, so they won’t try to reach them during that time/they’re in the room with them lol
OK so from what I gather from making a purse OK making a Bruisin been with not getting their permission and bad like really bad good creepy start deal level of dangerous and dark at the same time and I don’t like little obsessive and you think about it because I know people love their people but you don’t make anybody mad without letting them make it first but if they don’t ask you for help you don’t help numbers OK
Yuta King😁❤
yoo atleast am not a sasaeng cause they will never come to my country
Wow does people need to buy themselves a life
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Anyone, and I mean anyone, who has stalkers (that is what they are), should never hesitate to call them out, call police, whatever needs to be done. It's disgraceful. The bus driver most likely lost his job, as he should have.
These are not fans. There is something wrong with them. Turn the situation around: how would they like it if someone did to this them? I gather, not so much. It's selfish and sick. Delusional. Watching this video just makes me mad.
Bruh. NOT AMERICAN SESEANGS. COME ON
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