I was at the show. This room made for a dramatic contrast to the High Water Sound room with horn speakers. This Borresen room had (unsurprisingly) a vast sound stage and a vanishingly low noise floor. Every detail was there, and the dynamics were unlimited. The sum total was impressive indeed. The High Water sound moved me emotionally - the music held me entranced. And no - it wasn't colored - it was dense, textured, and completely coherent. Forget the prices for the moment - if you asked me to take one home, my own preference would be for the latter. But I could well imagine others thinking otherwise, arguing that this Borresen system is the most "accurate" they have yet heard.
A 2 million dollar system and all they play is texturally, instrumentally, vocally, and dynamically simplistic music. How in the world can you tell exactly what this system can do without hearing complex, dynamic music through it? A joke.
At shows it’s not really about the music. They’re trying to demonstrate the elements that make music. Dynamic range, clean top end and mids. Punchy bass etc. each listener will be focused on what they find important. Some people focus on how well voices are reproduced. Some listen for piano reproduction, etc. that’s why we are allowed to bring music we know well to these shows. Any manufacturer worth his salt will at some point play your recording when they’ve completed their own demos. 👍
Because they fear they would immediately be shown up for their lack of bass punch compared to a set of $1,500 Dynaudio Evoke 10's like like mine here - ua-cam.com/video/at8oFv3tvJA/v-deo.html
I’ve never heard a more live like sound come from Jays microphone than with him in this room. The piano sounds like a real one is in that room. I assume this system sounds breathtaking in person
Met Lars many years ago in Brazil, from his time with Nordost and Raidho, which “evolved” into his present brands. Nice fella. Huge knowledge in the area.
Couldn’t agree more. The grandpa elevator / funeral music has been plaguing the audiophile shows forever. It’s annoying to say the least. Not a good way to get the future generation of buyers on board with this boring music. I doubt anyone actually listens to this crap.
They play what they know sounds great on that system. If they played some other music it might not show off the system as much. That is done all the time. Dealers Choice.
Unfortunately is it a matter of getting a reference recording, made in the best way, and I think you almost will never find any recording with a really great sound from any more modern or upbeat music. The system would in no way have any problem in playing whatever you want, but it does also have to sound great / fantastic. Clock radio recordings will never show off that system. :-)
The music pieces are too simple to properly evaluate. Most basic systems would stage a descent soundstage. An expensive systems should be able to translate a complex music exceptionally
$2,000,000 is a Life Time of Tickets with Live Presentations at Carnegie Hall! Or a Life Time of Home Entertainment with Recorded Presentations! This is a Tough Decision Jay! 💪
How much for the time machine trips to listen to Miles, Coltrane, Brubeck, Sinatra or Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Queen, Dire Straits, ZZ Top, AC/DC ,Tina Turner, Sade, Annie Lennox, Jennifer Rush etc. You name it! When they were in their prime and rockin the stage or studio ! Take me with you if you have one, maybe the DeLorean by Dr.Emmet Brown?!? Drinks and everything else will be on me,no worries ! Till than, we are stuck with attaining the high in the fi in our homes . Cheers.
Even though I agree the price is obscene, you are comparing two different unrelated things. One is artificial playback which is VERY expensive upfront for bragging rights, convenience and enjoyment in your home and the other is to hear actual real music which nothing is even close to that in reality. Not even this system is even close to reality. Sorry just not even close.@@gordonm6128
@@davewin1792 Why is everyone wining about digital while digital is way better then analog which sounds flat is one dimensional. Even the first digital recorded album from artist Ry Cooder said difference between day and night and sounded like they actually played it. And from 1980 all recordings are digitally recorded and not analog so even most if not all your records are digital from the source not analog. So analog is a waste of money too.
You forgot to mention the small drivers :) You obviously have never heard vinyl properly. Digital has it's place and I am thankful for what it has to offer, but vinyl will kick it's ass all day in Natural, proper human voice. @@timschutte3961
Audio Group Denmark and their Børresen speaker line have been killing it with interesting new designs on driver and cabinet assembly. In my opinion, they are the direct Magico equivalent and competition at the most extreme, with Tidal Audio being a lovely alternative.
@@user-mk5cd8ko3w Tidal Audio GmbH, the loudspeaker and audio electronics manufacturer (not to be confused with the streaming brand Tidal HiFi) is a German brand, based in Hürth. Tidal Audio has two flagship speakers, and both are what I compare to the Magico M9 and the Børresen M6 as the alternative ultimate speakers: - Tidal Audio La Assoluta - Tidal Audio for Bugatti Royale
I can't see anyone having a listening room that big and if they did it would seem a very lonly place to sit and listen to music alone sorry this one is HiFi gone mad
For the $2,000,000, I would use your consulting service to help design and build the room and match the components so that everything works as a seamless system. At this of level of play, I can't afford mistakes or regrets.
A $2 million dollar audio system is insane!!! A 3 million dollar Bugatti automobile is insane!!! A $100 million dollar home is insane, as well. All these things are insanely priced only for those who cannot afford them. If I were to ever hit the California Mega Millions Lottery, guess what? My entire current $70,000 audio system would be immediately out the door and replaced by something of this nature. My fingers are still crossed.
I’m sure it a fantastic system… but it would have been really nice if you could have taken a close up video of the amps, speakers and the rest of the equipment … can’t really discern sound quality on you tube
All that audio tech, and what sort of music do they choose to demo it with? TOTAL CRAP! But having watched loads of audio shows on YT I have noticed that nearly ALL manufacturers do this. WHY? It's almost like they're ashamed to give their products a real work out in public.
Anyone living with that system for any length of time WILL realize it’s magnificence. Our brain need to learn/interpret what’s on “offer”. Listened through Audioquest Dragonfly and Focal clear MG phones. It has outstanding dynamics, even with this “simple” 😂 music, that’s why the voices and piano sounds so lifelike. Listened in the beginning again, when jay stands at the table, him and phone turned from the music. Noise is extremely low.
Am I missing the point here? I'm listening with a pair of $2500 speakers sitting 8 feet apart and I'm 8 feet away and I'm pretty sure my system, at least for what I can tell listening to this with a tablet and headphones, will sound just as well.
*❌✅ Aaviks are on a different level my friend , and can deliver Higher Current with superior accuracy an control using multiple TESLA coils , so size isn’t a problem // just cause Boulder an Grif use big box means nothing here …. Some Technology is New and better than old . That company is light years ahead of the DIGITAL GAME in Audio what goes in uncolored comes out uncolored only AMPLIFIED they are ZERO desertion Products . The only other Amplifier company near them are …. take a guess 👋😎‼️* investigate them // _They are (4) different companies that joined together as a juggernaut , an all 4 demand high price because they deliver on what they make_ but for the price the looks suck 😝 but I’m a bit biased as I own the Aavik Alfa the U series prototype // it’s a integrate 600wpc high current amp with the Darth Vader Looks )) I stream only because it’s convenient 🤪
OK......Fine 2 Mil$ system.....! Well ......I must tell you ALL viewers that i am a very very very very happy man with my : Mola Mola Kula Amp , my ROCKNA Wavelight DAC/Pre , and my Audio Solutions Virtuoso S Speakers.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And of course my Tellurium Q Ultra Silver series cables ( Speakers, Interconnect, Power, USB )...!!! SO , this 2 mil$ system i leave it to you guys...!!!
No flying experience can equal rocketing into space so no million dollar airplane is worth it. No driving experience can equal an F1 car so no million dollar car is worth it. The law of diminishing returns is in play.
You cant demonstrate Speakers properly if they are too far apart, what are they thinking? 10ft max for ANY speaker Again why are high end dealers playing SAFE music, - perhaps system flaws start showing up
I can't believe no one's found a way to connect these electronics together without a massive mess of cables at the back. There must be a better way to connect different Hi-Fi components without cabling
There you have it as Jay says - whos know what it sounds like - does it matter... 50K ,1 mil - 2 mil - name your price, pretty much what they did - and people want to know why high end is dying, too funny...
"There you have it"? Have what? How does it sound with something like an orchestra or a jazz trio? The music is too pretty, too underwhelming for my taste. Ask them to crank up Thomas Strønen's, "Time is a Blind Guide," the title-track of his ECM album. Or "Driva II" from Djupet. Those cuts will fill the room out!
I was at the show. This room made for a dramatic contrast to the High Water Sound room with horn speakers. This Borresen room had (unsurprisingly) a vast sound stage and a vanishingly low noise floor. Every detail was there, and the dynamics were unlimited. The sum total was impressive indeed. The High Water sound moved me emotionally - the music held me entranced. And no - it wasn't colored - it was dense, textured, and completely coherent. Forget the prices for the moment - if you asked me to take one home, my own preference would be for the latter. But I could well imagine others thinking otherwise, arguing that this Borresen system is the most "accurate" they have yet heard.
A 2 million dollar system and all they play is texturally, instrumentally, vocally, and dynamically simplistic music. How in the world can you tell exactly what this system can do without hearing complex, dynamic music through it? A joke.
Your rite!
How about some Deep Purple.!!
Or that jazz album by Hermann Szobel called Szobel
When I heard those speakers with Thrax gear, they played dead can dance from a reel to reel. It was amazingly good.
At shows it’s not really about the music. They’re trying to demonstrate the elements that make music. Dynamic range, clean top end and mids. Punchy bass etc. each listener will be focused on what they find important. Some people focus on how well voices are reproduced. Some listen for piano reproduction, etc. that’s why we are allowed to bring music we know well to these shows. Any manufacturer worth his salt will at some point play your recording when they’ve completed their own demos. 👍
Because they fear they would immediately be shown up for their lack of bass punch compared to a set of $1,500 Dynaudio Evoke 10's like like mine here - ua-cam.com/video/at8oFv3tvJA/v-deo.html
I’ve heard the system in Munich this and was blown away by it. Never have I heard Dynamics like that. Micro AND macro.
I’ve never heard a more live like sound come from Jays microphone than with him in this room. The piano sounds like a real one is in that room.
I assume this system sounds breathtaking in person
Really sounds just like my computer speakers - weird..
yes because you're probably listening on computer speakers itself... it's a bottleneck dude@@cudfoo1cudfoo247
I was there. Best in show for me.
The X-3's @ 11K have a good helping of the Borresen sound and are Beautiful...A screaming deal if you can find a pair.
Met Lars many years ago in Brazil, from his time with Nordost and Raidho, which “evolved” into his present brands. Nice fella. Huge knowledge in the area.
Thanks for sharing!
Why do such systems not play dance, rock, high energy, fast and deep bass music but always acoustic, vocal stuff
Did you the audience?
Exactly what are they hiding. The 3 million dollar system is the one that sounds REALLY good 😂
Couldn’t agree more. The grandpa elevator / funeral music has been plaguing the audiophile shows forever. It’s annoying to say the least.
Not a good way to get the future generation of buyers on board with this boring music. I doubt anyone actually listens to this crap.
They play what they know sounds great on that system. If they played some other music it might not show off the system as much. That is done all the time. Dealers Choice.
Unfortunately is it a matter of getting a reference recording, made in the best way, and I think you almost will never find any recording with a really great sound from any more modern or upbeat music. The system would in no way have any problem in playing whatever you want, but it does also have to sound great / fantastic. Clock radio recordings will never show off that system. :-)
The music pieces are too simple to properly evaluate. Most basic systems would stage a descent soundstage. An expensive systems should be able to translate a complex music exceptionally
Appreciate your coverage here Jay. Well done as always.
Thank you for sharing this with us. And thank you for listing the equipment.
$2,000,000 is a Life Time of Tickets with Live Presentations at Carnegie Hall! Or a Life Time of Home Entertainment with Recorded Presentations! This is a Tough Decision Jay! 💪
Who wants to go to an opera house to listen to music? I want my music in my house when I want it. That’s an irrelevant comment.
@@gordonm6128 Surprisingly there is much more than just Opera in Carnegie Hall! But only the Well Informed would know!
How much for the time machine trips to listen to Miles, Coltrane, Brubeck, Sinatra or Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Queen, Dire Straits, ZZ Top, AC/DC ,Tina Turner, Sade, Annie Lennox, Jennifer Rush etc. You name it! When they were in their prime and rockin the stage or studio ! Take me with you if you have one, maybe the DeLorean by Dr.Emmet Brown?!? Drinks and everything else will be on me,no worries ! Till than, we are stuck with attaining the high in the fi in our homes . Cheers.
Even though I agree the price is obscene, you are comparing two different unrelated things. One is artificial playback which is VERY expensive upfront for bragging rights, convenience and enjoyment in your home and the other is to hear actual real music which nothing is even close to that in reality. Not even this system is even close to reality. Sorry just not even close.@@gordonm6128
Its not easy to make such great sounds in a room as big as this, moreso in a hifi show.....superb speakers
Bs. If you are selling at this price point, then you should invest in a proper room for demos.
narrow baffles produce locked in imaging. I think they need some servo subs to get that subterranean region.
I'm not sure I am 2 million dollars impressed with the sound...
Yours sounds better than that sounded a bit odd to me anyway voices sounded computer generated or was that just me thanks jay for doing this for us 👍👍
Thanks
Room size
Digital plus small drivers. Crap for vocals.
@@davewin1792 Why is everyone wining about digital while digital is way better then analog which sounds flat is one dimensional. Even the first digital recorded album from artist Ry Cooder said difference between day and night and sounded like they actually played it. And from 1980 all recordings are digitally recorded and not analog so even most if not all your records are digital from the source not analog. So analog is a waste of money too.
You forgot to mention the small drivers :) You obviously have never heard vinyl properly. Digital has it's place and I am thankful for what it has to offer, but vinyl will kick it's ass all day in Natural, proper human voice. @@timschutte3961
Audio Group Denmark and their Børresen speaker line have been killing it with interesting new designs on driver and cabinet assembly.
In my opinion, they are the direct Magico equivalent and competition at the most extreme, with Tidal Audio being a lovely alternative.
110 % hardcore no compromise system
tidal不是日本的企业吗？
@@user-mk5cd8ko3w Tidal Audio GmbH, the loudspeaker and audio electronics manufacturer (not to be confused with the streaming brand Tidal HiFi) is a German brand, based in Hürth.
Tidal Audio has two flagship speakers, and both are what I compare to the Magico M9 and the Børresen M6 as the alternative ultimate speakers:
- Tidal Audio La Assoluta
- Tidal Audio for Bugatti Royale
Bottom up speaker. A weird kind of beige coloration from the mid bass. Can they handle more complex music? At this price they should.
I can't see anyone having a listening room that big and if they did it would seem a very lonly place to sit and listen to music alone sorry this one is HiFi gone mad
So beautiful pair of speakers, great coverage Jay
Thanks
2M system - speakers $560,000 - where does the $1,440,00 go? Love Borresen!!!
Wonder how much better they would sound in a room completely designed for this system. At that price, it’s what most would do
it's remarkable that I can hear sound characteristics here that are also on my Scansonic MB6B HD's.
The letters “MB” in your Scansonics stand for Michael Børresen, correct?
I believe so!
Love the choice of music they had!
Can you describe the sound ?
I'm curios 😊
That's a nice layout & room. Thanks for the views.
For the $2,000,000, I would use your consulting service to help design and build the room and match the components so that everything works as a seamless system. At this of level of play, I can't afford mistakes or regrets.
That system needs a room that large to really appreciate it.
why always simple vocal and sleep-inducing music? Look department is good. But the sound is nothing impressive via UA-cam. Your voice sounds better.
That is the speaker to listener ratio I like. Although I don’t have the room to get that far apart, ha. Great soundstage that way.
Is it worth the amount in your opinion? 😅
A $2 million dollar audio system is insane!!! A 3 million dollar Bugatti automobile is insane!!! A $100 million dollar home is insane, as well. All these things are insanely priced only for those who cannot afford them. If I were to ever hit the California Mega Millions Lottery, guess what? My entire current $70,000 audio system would be immediately out the door and replaced by something of this nature. My fingers are still crossed.
What a joke 😂
I'm looking to buy a system for only half a thousand dollars
I didn’t see a hatch door where one can enter and live in the speaker 😅
That was Lars! He was working for Raidho last time I saw him.
I’m sure it a fantastic system… but it would have been really nice if you could have taken a close up video of the amps, speakers and the rest of the equipment … can’t really discern sound quality on you tube
I believe this video has those close ups.. might want to watch the entire video
How would my Ratt - Out of the Cellar tape sound on those?
Those speakers have sex appeal.
Wow, two million! Where will it all top out in the future?
Seperation is unreal👏👏👏👏
Better dam well be for 2 million.
Price 2 million? Who care.. is that SOUND on 2 million? This is the question
It sounds great.
All that audio tech, and what sort of music do they choose to demo it with? TOTAL CRAP! But having watched loads of audio shows on YT I have noticed that nearly ALL manufacturers do this. WHY? It's almost like they're ashamed to give their products a real work out in public.
Anyone living with that system for any length of time WILL realize it’s magnificence. Our brain need to learn/interpret what’s on “offer”. Listened through Audioquest Dragonfly and Focal clear MG phones.
It has outstanding dynamics, even with this “simple” 😂 music, that’s why the voices and piano sounds so lifelike. Listened in the beginning again, when jay stands at the table, him and phone turned from the music. Noise is extremely low.
tf are those balloons on those cables. Thats ridiculous
Dissappting TBH. And 25ft apart is CRAZY. Hopefully u can ask them what they are playing at.
Lacks guts…. Next
The M3 is only 350.000. Not sure if it stacks up against the XVX. This system is designed for extreme speed and definition.
Way better than any Wilsons
@@michaelrovner4165 mmmmm not sure about the bass from the M3. Yes the M3 bass is fast but less oempf.
That is possibly the worst audiophile cover of Queen of all time. Just play the original thing
What are the songs anyone?
Open field coil speaker much less 😊
2 million for borresen.... no sense.... disqualifying sound... greetings from Italy
😂if Kid run around & hit the Speaker & falls how? So skinny speaker😅. So scarry $560,000 gone if Falls
Am I missing the point here? I'm listening with a pair of $2500 speakers sitting 8 feet apart and I'm 8 feet away and I'm pretty sure my system, at least for what I can tell listening to this with a tablet and headphones, will sound just as well.
class D amps
No class A amps but with different kind of switching power supply
250 watts class A
Does it mean small box amps can deliver it?? 😅
*❌✅ Aaviks are on a different level my friend , and can deliver Higher Current with superior accuracy an control using multiple TESLA coils , so size isn’t a problem // just cause Boulder an Grif use big box means nothing here …. Some Technology is New and better than old . That company is light years ahead of the DIGITAL GAME in Audio what goes in uncolored comes out uncolored only AMPLIFIED they are ZERO desertion Products . The only other Amplifier company near them are …. take a guess 👋😎‼️* investigate them // _They are (4) different companies that joined together as a juggernaut , an all 4 demand high price because they deliver on what they make_ but for the price the looks suck 😝 but I’m a bit biased as I own the Aavik Alfa the U series prototype // it’s a integrate 600wpc high current amp with the Darth Vader Looks )) I stream only because it’s convenient 🤪
They're overpriced! I wouldn't pay a dollar over $400,000 for a pair.
OK......Fine
2 Mil$ system.....!
Well ......I must tell you ALL viewers that i am a very very very very happy man with my : Mola Mola Kula Amp , my
ROCKNA Wavelight DAC/Pre , and my Audio Solutions Virtuoso S Speakers.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And of course my Tellurium Q Ultra Silver series cables ( Speakers, Interconnect, Power, USB )...!!!
SO , this 2 mil$ system i leave it to you guys...!!!
No sound replication can equal real sound in a concert hall.Therefore no million system is worth it.The law of diminishing return is in play.
No flying experience can equal rocketing into space so no million dollar airplane is worth it. No driving experience can equal an F1 car so no million dollar car is worth it. The law of diminishing returns is in play.
Also, the sound of a noisy crowd around you coughing, sneezing, or even crinkling cellophane candy wrappers can't be replicated in a home either...
Cable runs are sloppy.
When the misic is playing.... shut up !
I will stick with my rotel 😅
You cant demonstrate Speakers properly if they are too far apart, what are they thinking? 10ft max for ANY speaker
Again why are high end dealers playing SAFE music, - perhaps system flaws start showing up
Only 2 million?? That’s a bargain!!!
I can't believe no one's found a way to connect these electronics together without a massive mess of cables at the back. There must be a better way to connect different Hi-Fi components without cabling
Ridicules, isn't it?
man the back of thst rack looked like a nest of rats.. not cool at all.
The fiat money is not worth anything!
BELIEVE ME... TRANSPARENT >>>>>>>>>> ANSUZ
No hifi can be worth that. Ridiculous
2M... no sense!
A Magico M series copycat look to them...
For two million shapes and scales are important too. I will go for something like top of the MBL instead.
2 mil dollar system. Cause wolf von langa chicago + $50k amp and $50k dac aint good enough LOL
There you have it as Jay says - whos know what it sounds like - does it matter... 50K ,1 mil - 2 mil - name your price, pretty much what they did - and people want to know why high end is dying, too funny...
"There you have it"? Have what? How does it sound with something like an orchestra or a jazz trio? The music is too pretty, too underwhelming for my taste. Ask them to crank up Thomas Strønen's, "Time is a Blind Guide," the title-track of his ECM album. Or "Driva II" from Djupet. Those cuts will fill the room out!
hahahhahhha 2 mil,,,
Seriously???!...this is a 2M show about nothing! I'd rather listen to real music on my $10 clock radio.
f thoose plants, it's not surpose to be there
Nope. Thats not a good investment
so gross...
2.000.000 😂😂😂😂😂