So basically a male rj45 keystone jack. Has all the impedance matching magic, perpendicular knives to contact the conductors, and actually decently reliable. Though "toolless" might be a bit of a stretch if you need cutters and a tool to close it without a lot of effort. I like the copper tape though. Neat idea, looks nice.
I’m worried that flush cutting the wires, or conductors as you called them, instead of using a tool is going to be inconsistent for having good contact with the field term plug. Should I worry about this? If not, why? If so, why?
You should not worry about this. The wires must be flush cut for the lacing block to fit into the connector properly. The contact between the wires and the field term plug is not affected at the point the wires are cut.
Good afternoon! I am planning to upgrade my 16 analog security cameras and DVR's to NVR's and POE 4k cameras. I have made cat5e cables for a while and have the proper tools for it, but never used a shielded cat6. I am willing to buy the necessary tools, but just wondering if you believe using shielded cat6 for my project has more benefits that using regular unshielded cat5e? Thank you for this video!
Hello and welcome to the world of PoE! You don't need shielded Ethernet unless your cables will be running close to and in parallel with AC electrical circuits (closer than 8") or within a certain "bubble zone" distance of very high EMI generating electrical motors or transformers. Shielded Ethernet must be bonded to ground correctly as well! As for Category, the vast majority of IP PoE cameras are still operating at 100 Mb/s, and on occasion, you see 1G. Cat5e can easily achieve 2.5G (2,500 Mb/s). As for PoE, solid copper Cat5e should be able to sustain 100W DC PoE, with limitations coming in the form of bundle size, not the individual cable run itself. You are safe up to 31 x Cat5e 24 AWG solid copper runs at the highest 100W power level, bundled, and inside conduit too. It might surprise some people to know that I often still use Cat5e because it is easy to work with, especially when the cable must go inside a tight-fitting water-resistant camera housing.
Hello! Yes, it can be confusing because there are so many ways to do it. Over the years, I have been perfecting a method of terminating the cable shield to the hardware, and the way I do it now is to remove the cable shield, keep the drain wire, wrap the drain wire around the jacket, and then finally tack the drain wire down to the jacket with conductive adhesive copper fabric tape. It makes for a much more easy to work with termination, with no shield getting in the way. It also solves the situation where you accidentally took off the cable shield during stripping but did not want to!
So in essence, you have two of the pairs being longer than the other pairs once terminated vs a normal 8P8C RJ45. Wouldn't that be detrimental to performance? Let's say data is being sent down all 4 pairs (full duplex) at the same time, and the voltage/data has to travel further for the longer pairs than the shorter pairs. The data/voltage would arrive sooner for the short wires. so there is a time delay. I understand the difference in length is very tiny, say max 1/16th of an inch. But when you are pusing a lot of the data through the wire, say on a 10 gig network, the time delay difference could cause the network to be slower. Thoughts?
I think you'll find that, given the speed of electricity in copper (roughly the speed of light), the extra few millimeters doesn't make a difference. Consider also that the traces on your network card from the RJ45 port to the first decoder chip are often a few mm different in length too due to chip layout and the official size difference in footprint.
Hello! You are correct in that two of the pairs end up shorter. That said, the difference (even at 10G) is not measurable even with a Fluke DSX-8000. All eight wires end up terminated inside the 1/2" permitted untwist distance, which is accounted for in the specification. Additionally, our field termination plugs and keystones are specifically designed to mitigate any (unlikely) issues related to that. We hope this help and please let us know if you have further questions!
@@trueCABLE The question is, are these worth the price at 7 bucks a piece, that's like 6x times the cost of your standard crimped 6/6A RJ45's. I can't really see the benefit of these connectors, they aren't toolless. They take just as much time to terminate as a standard connector. and you are relying on a piece of plastic to hold the crimp to the IDC's internally. what If that piece of plastic fails over time?
@@velocityacoustics Hello! Our Cat6A Shielded Field Termination plugs are worth every penny. These field termination plugs provide a male connector while ensuring maximum performance. The termination style is IDC, and therefore more stable than any RJ45 8P8C termination by default. In addition, these field termination plugs are component-rated and impedance matching which greatly improves your chances of getting a working (and stable) 10G connection with Cat6A Ethernet the first time, every time. Tool-less means a 110-punch down tool is not required. No connection hardware is truly 100% tool-less since you will always need a stripping tool, flush cutters, etc. The plastic conductor holder cap simply guides the conductors into the housing in the correct sequence. What holds the conductors over time is the nickel-plated IDC contact prongs. The plastic conductor holder cap is not prone to wear out over time. The cable itself will rot away long before the IDC wiring cap will. Let us know if this explanation helps!
If you're worried about price, get a cheap female keystone punch down module, and use a short factory made patch cable to connect to the device in the field. You get the perks of the matching circuitry still, and a male end. It's just a bit more bulky. For home use, a standard crimp-on network end is fine if you do it well and test it and don't need high performance (noisy emf environment, 10Gbps+, etc). For a professional install where it's expensive to travel to a customer's site and fix a damaged termination, probably worth the few extra bucks.
Are you supposed to finish both ends the same way ie. wrapping the ground/drain wire around the cable and covering it with coper tape? How do people avoid ground loops or whatever that problem is called?
Hello! Yes, both ends of the cable should be done the same way (terminate the cable shield to the termination hardware). Ground loops are only a threat when you have two or more actual points of ground involved (like two different AC power systems, or two different ground rods that are NOT equalized). Having multiple bond points to the same ground is a good thing.
@trueCABLE this answer is wrong and dangerous. If you shielded both ends then cable must be connected to the two grounded switches. Otherwise you may fire up machine. OMG and this is pro US company. What a joke. You need to understand how elected powered potential work. Make video!!!
Hello! As a fellow UniFi user (their WAPs and Protect cams), I can say without a doubt that field termination plugs of ANY brand or type will NOT work. Too big. Way too big. The way I deal with this problem is to terminate the shielded outdoor solid copper Ethernet cable to Category-rated shielded keystone jacks. On the remote PoE device end, you will want to mount that keystone into a small outdoor weatherproof enclosure, patch it into the keystone, and then into the PoE device that way. Obviously, you will need outdoor-rated shielded patch cords (factory-made), which we don't sell yet, but others do. If indoors, then simply use keystone jack housings, OR don't bother with the housing at all. I have left a keystone terminated to solid copper Ethernet above a drop ceiling plugged into a patch cord and then plugged into a ceiling-mounted WiFi PoE device. Obviously, it is best if you can support the keystone somehow, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
@@trueCABLE We’re just about to start building a house, so good timing. If you can get those outdoor patch cables available, maybe the timing will work and I’ll buy all my stuff from one spot. I’m going to have a bunch of cameras to install.
@@rjtumble Hey RJ! I doubt we would have such a patch cord in time for your installation. We are just offering the Cat6 unshielded indoor variety right now and awaiting results and feedback. Once we select the next major variation in mind (likely Cat6A shielded indoor) that will take at least 6 months to test, vet, and sort out. After that, we would consider an outdoor-style patch cord. So, at least a year away, if we plan on offering such a cable. Don't know yet. I will add the desire for outdoor patch cords to our list. Actually, it is already on there but I will add another vote for you.
Another very helpful demo Don, thank you.
Thank you!
Thank you, nicely demonstrated. Definitely helpful information 😇
Thank you!
So basically a male rj45 keystone jack. Has all the impedance matching magic, perpendicular knives to contact the conductors, and actually decently reliable.
Though "toolless" might be a bit of a stretch if you need cutters and a tool to close it without a lot of effort.
I like the copper tape though. Neat idea, looks nice.
Hello BrownR87! Yup, you summed it up. Tool-less is, well, a bit of a misnomer. It just means a 110 punch tool is not required.
I’m worried that flush cutting the wires, or conductors as you called them, instead of using a tool is going to be inconsistent for having good contact with the field term plug. Should I worry about this? If not, why? If so, why?
You should not worry about this. The wires must be flush cut for the lacing block to fit into the connector properly. The contact between the wires and the field term plug is not affected at the point the wires are cut.
Good afternoon! I am planning to upgrade my 16 analog security cameras and DVR's to NVR's and POE 4k cameras. I have made cat5e cables for a while and have the proper tools for it, but never used a shielded cat6. I am willing to buy the necessary tools, but just wondering if you believe using shielded cat6 for my project has more benefits that using regular unshielded cat5e? Thank you for this video!
Hello and welcome to the world of PoE! You don't need shielded Ethernet unless your cables will be running close to and in parallel with AC electrical circuits (closer than 8") or within a certain "bubble zone" distance of very high EMI generating electrical motors or transformers. Shielded Ethernet must be bonded to ground correctly as well! As for Category, the vast majority of IP PoE cameras are still operating at 100 Mb/s, and on occasion, you see 1G. Cat5e can easily achieve 2.5G (2,500 Mb/s). As for PoE, solid copper Cat5e should be able to sustain 100W DC PoE, with limitations coming in the form of bundle size, not the individual cable run itself. You are safe up to 31 x Cat5e 24 AWG solid copper runs at the highest 100W power level, bundled, and inside conduit too. It might surprise some people to know that I often still use Cat5e because it is easy to work with, especially when the cable must go inside a tight-fitting water-resistant camera housing.
Thank you so much for the info and advice! 🫡
Sometimes you wrap the drain wire. Sometimes you cut it off.
Sometimes you remove off the cable shield.
Confusing.
Hello! Yes, it can be confusing because there are so many ways to do it. Over the years, I have been perfecting a method of terminating the cable shield to the hardware, and the way I do it now is to remove the cable shield, keep the drain wire, wrap the drain wire around the jacket, and then finally tack the drain wire down to the jacket with conductive adhesive copper fabric tape. It makes for a much more easy to work with termination, with no shield getting in the way. It also solves the situation where you accidentally took off the cable shield during stripping but did not want to!
Good Video.
Glad you liked it!
So in essence, you have two of the pairs being longer than the other pairs once terminated vs a normal 8P8C RJ45. Wouldn't that be detrimental to performance? Let's say data is being sent down all 4 pairs (full duplex) at the same time, and the voltage/data has to travel further for the longer pairs than the shorter pairs. The data/voltage would arrive sooner for the short wires. so there is a time delay. I understand the difference in length is very tiny, say max 1/16th of an inch. But when you are pusing a lot of the data through the wire, say on a 10 gig network, the time delay difference could cause the network to be slower. Thoughts?
I think you'll find that, given the speed of electricity in copper (roughly the speed of light), the extra few millimeters doesn't make a difference. Consider also that the traces on your network card from the RJ45 port to the first decoder chip are often a few mm different in length too due to chip layout and the official size difference in footprint.
Hello! You are correct in that two of the pairs end up shorter. That said, the difference (even at 10G) is not measurable even with a Fluke DSX-8000. All eight wires end up terminated inside the 1/2" permitted untwist distance, which is accounted for in the specification. Additionally, our field termination plugs and keystones are specifically designed to mitigate any (unlikely) issues related to that. We hope this help and please let us know if you have further questions!
@@trueCABLE The question is, are these worth the price at 7 bucks a piece, that's like 6x times the cost of your standard crimped 6/6A RJ45's. I can't really see the benefit of these connectors, they aren't toolless. They take just as much time to terminate as a standard connector. and you are relying on a piece of plastic to hold the crimp to the IDC's internally. what If that piece of plastic fails over time?
@@velocityacoustics Hello! Our Cat6A Shielded Field Termination plugs are worth every penny. These field termination plugs provide a male connector while ensuring maximum performance. The termination style is IDC, and therefore more stable than any RJ45 8P8C termination by default. In addition, these field termination plugs are component-rated and impedance matching which greatly improves your chances of getting a working (and stable) 10G connection with Cat6A Ethernet the first time, every time. Tool-less means a 110-punch down tool is not required. No connection hardware is truly 100% tool-less since you will always need a stripping tool, flush cutters, etc. The plastic conductor holder cap simply guides the conductors into the housing in the correct sequence. What holds the conductors over time is the nickel-plated IDC contact prongs. The plastic conductor holder cap is not prone to wear out over time. The cable itself will rot away long before the IDC wiring cap will. Let us know if this explanation helps!
If you're worried about price, get a cheap female keystone punch down module, and use a short factory made patch cable to connect to the device in the field. You get the perks of the matching circuitry still, and a male end. It's just a bit more bulky.
For home use, a standard crimp-on network end is fine if you do it well and test it and don't need high performance (noisy emf environment, 10Gbps+, etc). For a professional install where it's expensive to travel to a customer's site and fix a damaged termination, probably worth the few extra bucks.
Are you supposed to finish both ends the same way ie. wrapping the ground/drain wire around the cable and covering it with coper tape? How do people avoid ground loops or whatever that problem is called?
Hello! Yes, both ends of the cable should be done the same way (terminate the cable shield to the termination hardware). Ground loops are only a threat when you have two or more actual points of ground involved (like two different AC power systems, or two different ground rods that are NOT equalized). Having multiple bond points to the same ground is a good thing.
@trueCABLE this answer is wrong and dangerous. If you shielded both ends then cable must be connected to the two grounded switches. Otherwise you may fire up machine. OMG and this is pro US company. What a joke. You need to understand how elected powered potential work. Make video!!!
@@SoWhat07what are you talking about?
Looks like these are WAY easier than an RJ45. Any idea if they'll fit inside a Unifi PoE camera?
Hello! As a fellow UniFi user (their WAPs and Protect cams), I can say without a doubt that field termination plugs of ANY brand or type will NOT work. Too big. Way too big. The way I deal with this problem is to terminate the shielded outdoor solid copper Ethernet cable to Category-rated shielded keystone jacks. On the remote PoE device end, you will want to mount that keystone into a small outdoor weatherproof enclosure, patch it into the keystone, and then into the PoE device that way. Obviously, you will need outdoor-rated shielded patch cords (factory-made), which we don't sell yet, but others do. If indoors, then simply use keystone jack housings, OR don't bother with the housing at all. I have left a keystone terminated to solid copper Ethernet above a drop ceiling plugged into a patch cord and then plugged into a ceiling-mounted WiFi PoE device. Obviously, it is best if you can support the keystone somehow, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
@@trueCABLE We’re just about to start building a house, so good timing. If you can get those outdoor patch cables available, maybe the timing will work and I’ll buy all my stuff from one spot. I’m going to have a bunch of cameras to install.
@@rjtumble Hey RJ! I doubt we would have such a patch cord in time for your installation. We are just offering the Cat6 unshielded indoor variety right now and awaiting results and feedback. Once we select the next major variation in mind (likely Cat6A shielded indoor) that will take at least 6 months to test, vet, and sort out. After that, we would consider an outdoor-style patch cord. So, at least a year away, if we plan on offering such a cable. Don't know yet. I will add the desire for outdoor patch cords to our list. Actually, it is already on there but I will add another vote for you.
do you sell to Canada?
Hello James. We sell through Amazon CA. We don't sell direct to Canada via our website at this time.