So, can anyone explain to me how does Ciel can have 3 Idea Bloods while Vlov barely could tolerate one? It's not like Roa have the millenium class foundation either, he is 800 years old and keep one reseting new accounts.
Y'all sleeping on the curry diet. But seriously, it's because Ciel in particular has an extraordinarily high capacity for reserving magical energy - Mario figures that's why she's capable of being in possession of multiple DAA's Idea Bloods + it's noted as what sets her apart from other members of the Burial Agency even though there are apparently people more dangerous than her filling up the other seats; also probably why she's the one who got the 7th Holy Scripture relegated to her as a weapon after it remaining unused since creation and why her arsenal both weapon/armor and magecraft spell-wise makes use of high magical energy expenditure (eg the Iron Maiden armor she uses in defence against Vlov's Freezing drains magical energy from the user until they die while preventing other causes of death so, since she's a monster on the magical energy front, she gets to use it for a relatively long period of time while still staying active alongside having the "luxury" of reusing it when it kills her cause it can't be taken off unless destroyed by an overpowering concept cause her immortality). Vlov, on the other hand, as far as we're aware simply didn't naturally quality to be an Ancestor stage Dead Apostle but but cheated to the rank by having powered/powering through the "inherited" Idea Blood's Curse attempting to crush him cause of the will he developed as a knight and it's biting him in the ass. He'd probably have been fine if he killed Zaria after growing to at least Successor rank or got born naturally gifted like Ciel (a trait that possibly contributed to her having been a juicy reincarnation target for Roa cause he possesses people on a combined talent/capacity + status basis...which is why the members of the Church can narrow down Roa inhabited suspects in the story. Ciel just inherited some of Roa's other abilities after getting revived post possession - the Idea Blood stuff is just her).
Ciel also isn't using her idea blood principles the same way that Vlov and other Dead Apostate Ancestors are using theirs. They're sealed inside her and she draws on them to use her unique large scale spells (this one and fortress); she's not assimilating them to become an Ancestor
@@wesleyjackson7487 No. It's the other way around. Ciel doesn't have the aptitude of magic because of Roa. Roa chose her because she has a high altitude for magic. Beyond that, Ciel just uses Idea Bloods to power up super spells that she devised.
So Ceil was chosen as Roa's vessel because of her abnormal mana capacity and large amount of Magic circuits (An extremely potent combo) then when Ciel was revived she inherited Roa's vampiric regenerate (Also stupidly potent). But what I don't understand is how Ciel was revived in the first place. I know that she's connected to Roa's soul and can't die until he does. But didn't Ciel get killed by Arcueid as the vessel of Roa like Shiki Roa did? How did Ciel initially get revived? What was different?
This is explained in Mahoyo, which was written before even OG Tsuki. Magic Circuits allow mages to regenerate from fatal injury if they can survive the actual injury long enough. Aoko can restart her own heart and repair her caved chest to functional capacity in about a minute due to the Aozakis being exceptional at regeneration via Magic Circuits. On the verge of death, Ciel's Magic Circuits and energy capacity (the best in the world) allowed her to begin regenerating from near-death instantly. In short, she didn't fully die. She approached a point that was viewed as 'close enough'.
@@LordArrion1Yep, and Magic Crests are another way of avoiding instant death. Another example happened in the Fate route in FSN, when Rin is attacked by Kotomine and is left in a state of near death. Her status as a high-quality mage enabled her survival.
Because Shiki slit Arcuied's neck, sending her into a rage that won't stop until she sees the boy dead. This is the second time Shiki did the unthinkable to her in her view. The first time he instinctively chopped her into 17 pieces of flesh. There won't be a third.
@@wonderchild3879 to be fair she was gonna force Shiki into becoming her servant or otherwise she would kill him, but in this route Shiki is in love with Ciel so no means no but Arcuied won’t accept that (although Shiki did a rash thing by slicing her neck, but also Arcuied in her bloodlust state of mind wasn’t thinking straight).
@@thewanderingwriter4448 Also being fair. The 1st time Shiki killed Arcuied was due to his Nanaya blood that he was unaware of his instinctive talent for demon slaying. The Nanaya Clan was very experienced with hunting demons. Shiki had forgotten his original heritage.
@@leon4000Arcuied isn't a demon tho.If anything she's closer to a Nature godess due to being an Incarnated Nature Spirit on the level of a Great Mother class Fairy.
Short Answer: is a great magic with the same level of mistery as Excalibur. Long Answer: Calvaria Galgalim: Calvaria's Star (カルヴァリアの星カルヴァリア・ガルガリン?): An angelic wheel deployed in the stratosphere, blazing with focused sunlight. A reflector created with magecraft. The 50km long, 10km wide blade of light beaming towards the surface can be compared to an aurora possessing mass, or a guillotine of light. It is greater magecraft that Ciel came up with after defeating the Ancestor who was her sword mentor; apparently she uses his Idea Blood to initiate it. After firing at full power against Arcueid the remaining magical energy was used to fire one last shot, and it was this move that turned the tables in the endgame.[9][12] It takes 3 minutes to deploy which is the spell's main disadvantage, however in terms of Mystery it is on the same level as Excalibur, though its usage is very different.[20]
@@rodolfosanchez3397 mystery =\= attack power As rhongominiad is stated to rival Ea in terms of mystery and we all know that rhongominiad is a thousand times more powerful than EA
@ABCZ ZC Because the counter force is DEAD in FGO and the holy judgement that Artoria uses the one that arash destroyed is only a MINI version of tower Rhongominiad yet it is a THOUSAND TIMES stronger than Gilgamesh EA
Cheatcode activated: Orbital bombardment
It's quite impressive Ciel can use three Idea Bloods considering according to Roa a single DAA with one would be able to compete with Arc's MP.
That was the best guillotine I ever saw, I'm proud of her
So, can anyone explain to me how does Ciel can have 3 Idea Bloods while Vlov barely could tolerate one? It's not like Roa have the millenium class foundation either, he is 800 years old and keep one reseting new accounts.
Because the world links her existence to roa who has a higher foundation than Vlov.
Y'all sleeping on the curry diet.
But seriously, it's because Ciel in particular has an extraordinarily high capacity for reserving magical energy - Mario figures that's why she's capable of being in possession of multiple DAA's Idea Bloods + it's noted as what sets her apart from other members of the Burial Agency even though there are apparently people more dangerous than her filling up the other seats; also probably why she's the one who got the 7th Holy Scripture relegated to her as a weapon after it remaining unused since creation and why her arsenal both weapon/armor and magecraft spell-wise makes use of high magical energy expenditure (eg the Iron Maiden armor she uses in defence against Vlov's Freezing drains magical energy from the user until they die while preventing other causes of death so, since she's a monster on the magical energy front, she gets to use it for a relatively long period of time while still staying active alongside having the "luxury" of reusing it when it kills her cause it can't be taken off unless destroyed by an overpowering concept cause her immortality).
Vlov, on the other hand, as far as we're aware simply didn't naturally quality to be an Ancestor stage Dead Apostle but but cheated to the rank by having powered/powering through the "inherited" Idea Blood's Curse attempting to crush him cause of the will he developed as a knight and it's biting him in the ass. He'd probably have been fine if he killed Zaria after growing to at least Successor rank or got born naturally gifted like Ciel (a trait that possibly contributed to her having been a juicy reincarnation target for Roa cause he possesses people on a combined talent/capacity + status basis...which is why the members of the Church can narrow down Roa inhabited suspects in the story. Ciel just inherited some of Roa's other abilities after getting revived post possession - the Idea Blood stuff is just her).
Ciel also isn't using her idea blood principles the same way that Vlov and other Dead Apostate Ancestors are using theirs. They're sealed inside her and she draws on them to use her unique large scale spells (this one and fortress); she's not assimilating them to become an Ancestor
@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane So after Roa dies She can't use idea blood anymore
@@wesleyjackson7487 No. It's the other way around. Ciel doesn't have the aptitude of magic because of Roa. Roa chose her because she has a high altitude for magic.
Beyond that, Ciel just uses Idea Bloods to power up super spells that she devised.
So... she crushed Arcueid?
yep and destroyed her body but her soul lived on and entered lumine mode
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How ciel manage to destroy Arcueid body ?
So Ceil was chosen as Roa's vessel because of her abnormal mana capacity and large amount of Magic circuits (An extremely potent combo) then when Ciel was revived she inherited Roa's vampiric regenerate (Also stupidly potent). But what I don't understand is how Ciel was revived in the first place. I know that she's connected to Roa's soul and can't die until he does. But didn't Ciel get killed by Arcueid as the vessel of Roa like Shiki Roa did? How did Ciel initially get revived? What was different?
This is explained in Mahoyo, which was written before even OG Tsuki. Magic Circuits allow mages to regenerate from fatal injury if they can survive the actual injury long enough. Aoko can restart her own heart and repair her caved chest to functional capacity in about a minute due to the Aozakis being exceptional at regeneration via Magic Circuits. On the verge of death, Ciel's Magic Circuits and energy capacity (the best in the world) allowed her to begin regenerating from near-death instantly. In short, she didn't fully die. She approached a point that was viewed as 'close enough'.
@@LordArrion1Yep, and Magic Crests are another way of avoiding instant death. Another example happened in the Fate route in FSN, when Rin is attacked by Kotomine and is left in a state of near death. Her status as a high-quality mage enabled her survival.
f ciel bro why tf are they even fighting in the first place
Because Shiki slit Arcuied's neck, sending her into a rage that won't stop until she sees the boy dead. This is the second time Shiki did the unthinkable to her in her view. The first time he instinctively chopped her into 17 pieces of flesh. There won't be a third.
@@leon4000 deserved ngl
@@wonderchild3879 to be fair she was gonna force Shiki into becoming her servant or otherwise she would kill him, but in this route Shiki is in love with Ciel so no means no but Arcuied won’t accept that (although Shiki did a rash thing by slicing her neck, but also Arcuied in her bloodlust state of mind wasn’t thinking straight).
@@thewanderingwriter4448 Also being fair. The 1st time Shiki killed Arcuied was due to his Nanaya blood that he was unaware of his instinctive talent for demon slaying. The Nanaya Clan was very experienced with hunting demons. Shiki had forgotten his original heritage.
@@leon4000Arcuied isn't a demon tho.If anything she's closer to a Nature godess due to being an Incarnated Nature Spirit on the level of a Great Mother class Fairy.
Casual fans here: what is that attack
And how its compare to servants nps, please
Short Answer: is a great magic with the same level of mistery as Excalibur.
Long Answer: Calvaria Galgalim: Calvaria's Star (カルヴァリアの星カルヴァリア・ガルガリン?): An angelic wheel deployed in the stratosphere, blazing with focused sunlight. A reflector created with magecraft. The 50km long, 10km wide blade of light beaming towards the surface can be compared to an aurora possessing mass, or a guillotine of light. It is greater magecraft that Ciel came up with after defeating the Ancestor who was her sword mentor; apparently she uses his Idea Blood to initiate it. After firing at full power against Arcueid the remaining magical energy was used to fire one last shot, and it was this move that turned the tables in the endgame.[9][12] It takes 3 minutes to deploy which is the spell's main disadvantage, however in terms of Mystery it is on the same level as Excalibur, though its usage is very different.[20]
@@rodolfosanchez3397 mystery =\= attack power
As rhongominiad is stated to rival Ea in terms of mystery and we all know that rhongominiad is a thousand times more powerful than EA
@ABCZ ZC Because the counter force is DEAD in FGO and the holy judgement that Artoria uses the one that arash destroyed is only a MINI version of tower Rhongominiad yet it is a THOUSAND TIMES stronger than Gilgamesh EA
@ABCZ ZC rhongominiad and excalibur way overpower ea and the rest do you even understand how they even function they are no mere weapons
@ABCZ ZC I thought it was only capable of destroying the texture of the world, not the world itself
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Excuse me, can you tell me what software you use to read visual novel? I mean to translate to English. Thank you.