Saw: For the greater good? Luthen: Call it what you will... Saw: Let's call it...war. There's a suble second conversation going on as they talk. Saw doesn't want 30 men and a fellow Rebel leader to die, but in the end he knows it's necessary to further their cause. Luthen knows it's necessary, but he also knows it's wrong. If they said it out loud it would go something like this: Saw: We're doing the right thing. Luthen: The smart thing, not the right thing. It doesn't make us the good guys. Saw: Maybe. But maybe it makes us the guys who win.
I think you nailed the subtext here! I love that this show is so good that people are still analyzing it to this detail this long after the initial release. I know we have season 2 coming up, but I'd say it's still too far our for this to be running on hype
French and Greek resistance leadership had to make several painful calculations similar to this during WWII. “Let’s call it War” ties the bow on this exchange. “Call it war” is exactly what’s going on.
What's funny is that Luthien wanted to goad the Imperial authorities into a repressive crackdown that otherwise wouldn't have been necessary, in order to trigger a general rebellion that would bear a heavy cost in innocent lives. What a hero.
The crackdown would happen *eventually* anyway. Because there was a lot to rebel against already. All Luthen did was speed things up and dictate the timing. Because doing so then, when the rebel cells he was coordinating with would be ready to organize and lead that rebellious energy, just meant that the response to the crackdown could be more than fear.
@@temmy9 the same tactic was used in the Hunger Games - President Snow, who was already despised by people living in the Districts, was manipulated into clamping down hard on dissent instead of throwing the restless masses an olive branch and cooling things down. The advisor responsible was secretly an agent of Snow's main enemy.
I’ve been looking for these videos of yours for some time now, you had these scenes on YT before but they went missing, I’m glad to see they’re up again.
@@LuiTheBazui this is the real face of the Rebel Alliance: senior personnel making cold blooded sacrifices of people further down the food chain. Not very romantic.
@@mitchellgiles6869 Anto Kreegyr was a doofus oaf and a Seperatist whom the only thing shared in common with Rael was a mutual hated for the Empire. He died as he lived ... as a useful idiot.
I love that Luthen is clearly torn up about all 30 men, "plus kreeger"
He also knows it's 50 men, not 30.
Rip the 30 men....plus Kreeger lol
Two acting super heavyweights in the ring. Pure magic.
Saw: For the greater good?
Luthen: Call it what you will...
Saw: Let's call it...war.
There's a suble second conversation going on as they talk. Saw doesn't want 30 men and a fellow Rebel leader to die, but in the end he knows it's necessary to further their cause. Luthen knows it's necessary, but he also knows it's wrong. If they said it out loud it would go something like this:
Saw: We're doing the right thing.
Luthen: The smart thing, not the right thing. It doesn't make us the good guys.
Saw: Maybe. But maybe it makes us the guys who win.
I think you nailed the subtext here! I love that this show is so good that people are still analyzing it to this detail this long after the initial release. I know we have season 2 coming up, but I'd say it's still too far our for this to be running on hype
Awesome clip. The full version of this scene is even better: there are a lot of extra details that add to the "high-stakes" feel of this scene.
French and Greek resistance leadership had to make several painful calculations similar to this during WWII.
“Let’s call it War” ties the bow on this exchange.
“Call it war” is exactly what’s going on.
Great scene
That ‘War’ has it all
Luthen looks like RFK Jr
Damn good show!
Did your channel got axed or what?
What's funny is that Luthien wanted to goad the Imperial authorities into a repressive crackdown that otherwise wouldn't have been necessary, in order to trigger a general rebellion that would bear a heavy cost in innocent lives. What a hero.
The crackdown would happen *eventually* anyway. Because there was a lot to rebel against already. All Luthen did was speed things up and dictate the timing. Because doing so then, when the rebel cells he was coordinating with would be ready to organize and lead that rebellious energy, just meant that the response to the crackdown could be more than fear.
This is actual real world insurgency 101
@@temmy9 the same tactic was used in the Hunger Games - President Snow, who was already despised by people living in the Districts, was manipulated into clamping down hard on dissent instead of throwing the restless masses an olive branch and cooling things down. The advisor responsible was secretly an agent of Snow's main enemy.
@@Hidden_Sage a general rebellion is always messy, a focused rebellion leads to rapid installation of a new government that can restore order quickly.
I’ve been looking for these videos of yours for some time now, you had these scenes on YT before but they went missing, I’m glad to see they’re up again.
He can actually reason with sol😂
Impressive
Wait so he betrayed Saw? If so, why?
He betrayed Anto Kreegyr
He betrayed Anto Kreegyr(Separatist) because he believes some Rebels have to be sacrificed for a greater Rebellion
He betrayed Anto Kreegyr so the ISB won’t be suspicious that Luthen might have an inside man in their operation
@@LuiTheBazui this is the real face of the Rebel Alliance: senior personnel making cold blooded sacrifices of people further down the food chain. Not very romantic.
@@mitchellgiles6869 Anto Kreegyr was a doofus oaf and a Seperatist whom the only thing shared in common with Rael was a mutual hated for the Empire. He died as he lived ... as a useful idiot.
that is a concealed light saber... Luthen is a Jedi... season 2 gonna be the big reveal and is going down against Darth Vader
That would be unbelievably terrible
@@georgec5541 😂 maybe he's joking because it's made by Disney and there's a 50/50 chance that they actually do something so terrible.
@@georgec5541 why do you think? As long as all the jedi are dead by A New Hope, it don't matter do it?
i love Tubes with all my heart he's so cool