I remember my elementary school science teacher telling us that her mom was the first person to receive a pig valve transplant. Really cool to see this advancement.
Yes, it's ethical to offer an experimental procedure when it's the last option. You know it's ethical because the opposite of it would be completely unethical - denying someone a chance to save their own life just because it hadn't been done yet.
If it's ethical to raise animals for meat, then it's also ethical (even more so) to raise them for parts. Some day, we'll grow everything in a tube, but until then - we need this type of research to get us closer to the goals of better human health.
@@mlgklipz2543 I mean ethical or not farming animal have been what made our species survive. You can't really say that it's morally wrong. I agree that we do need a cruel free alternative, maybe someday we really can grow meat in a lab. But saying that raising animal for meat as unethical is really such a first world problem. People in third country like mine could even be considered lucky if they can buy meat daily.
David Bennett, 57, died 2 months after the transplantation on March 8 at the University of Maryland Medical Center. Doctors didn't give an exact cause of death, saying only that his condition had begun deteriorating several days earlier. At first the pig heart was functioning, and the Maryland hospital issued periodic updates that Bennett seemed to be slowly recovering. Last month, the hospital released video of him watching the Super Bowl from his hospital bed while working with his physical therapist. Bennett survived significantly longer with the gene-edited pig heart than one of the last milestones in xenotransplantation - when Baby Fae, a dying California infant, lived 21 days with a baboon's heart in 1984.
If we can do it for bacon I think we can do it for a heart. I mean from a moral stand point which is more important. I don't necessarily agree with the obvious slautering of animals it's just a point of view
I never would have known my Grandfather without heart transplants. if people have ethical issues around using pigs in this matter I would hope as an alternative they are listed as organs donors as I am.
We saw similar uproar back when human organ donation started, but we got past it and we're mostly okay with it as a society. I just can't stop wondering about the personality traits we sometimes see in human to human transplantation and what we might discover about pigs in the process. Also, we freaking eat pigs! I'd say raising them to save lives is a bit more ethical than that.
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 Regarding your well-made point that we already eat pigs; if anything these pigs live more comfortable lives than their farmed peers. After all, you wouldn't want to use the heart of a pig that has been overfed and mistreated such that it already suffers from heart disease! I'm willing to wager that these donor pigs see far more physical activity, with more consideration given to their overall health.
@@reidmock2165 agreed. And given how much more intelligent they are than horses, dogs or cats* it seems odd that we eat them anyway. *Cats of course we're just guessing because they refuse to be tested. Oh and if you're ever in the Jacksonville/Gainesville FL area look up blackberry pig farm. They're friends that raise their pigs very well and the difference in taste is astonishing. Stupidly I met the pigs and now I can't eat any pork
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 it is not stupid to be in connection with your compassion again. It is basic human decency to treat others with respect. that is called speciesism: arbitrary discrimination against a certain species. It is just like any other "-ism". Society tells you to love dogs and cats but slit the throats of cows, pigs, chickens. All animals including humans have their own life and that life means just as much to them as it does for humans. We maybe be different in many ways, but we sare the same in the ways that matter: we feel pain, joy, fear, love.
Interesting point about the zoonotic disease transfer, well worth looking into. Ethical arguments against sound pretty thin though imo, hope they don't impede scientific progress on this and lives being saved. Better medicine in other fields means less organs all the time, death rates from a lack of them will only go up.
Exactly, the argument about raising pigs for this when it has a high potential to save lives is a really bad one considering we're already using them as sustenance. The other part about if it's ethical to offer procedures like this to the terminally ill because of desperation is also a bad one... something like this is definitely the better option if the other one is death. Edit: Would've been cool if they had added the necessary genetic material for the cells within the heart to produce the telomerase enzyme like how the cells within a lobster does.
This was first done by a doctor from Assam, India in 1997. His name is Dr Dhaniram Baruah, a cardio thoracic surgeon and an inventor. At an international conference in 1995, Dr. Baruah had said that pigs are close to humans in various aspects. He had at the time developed an electric motor-driven artificial biological heart made of ox pericardium that was implanted in a pig. When the pig heart transplant happened, it was revolutionary for that time, 25 years ago. Obviously the patient didn't survive for more than a week because we didn't have advanced genetic engineering back then, neither the knowledge and experience. But the worst part is, the doctor was ostracized instead of being encouraged. Locals didn't understand the procedure and thought the doctor was eccentric
Does anyone have a reason against raising pigs for organ transplants that isn't also relevant to raising pigs for food? We slaughter tons of pigs each day for food. They are both slaughtering pigs to keep people alive, either from starvation or organ failure.
The comments currently added to my question don't answer my original question. Yes, there are people who are against eating pork. However, to ask my question in different words... Let's just pretend raising pigs for food is accepted by anyone, does raising pigs for transplants make any NEW argument against it?
@@tonys.1946 Yes, there are still some issues. These are not the same pigs. The "Organ-Pig" do have to be genetically modified (if I understood correctly). That raises the question if it is okay, for us to do that?.... But in a world where we do not have ANY concerns with eating other animals, then i guess it wouldnt matter what else we would do with them
Hey Seeker family!! What about making a video about the superionic earth's core? I saw the video about the superionic ice but it's kind of outdated since that was speaking about it but when this discovery wasn't still found, so I still have the floating question in my mind about how are magnetic fields different from each other since we know now that we share the same superionic core??
It's ironic how the same thing that can increase your risk for heart disease from its consumption is also the same thing we need to replace our heart. My grandma use to say a "A radical sore calls for a radical cure"
its hard to find a falacy in seekers dispositions but i found one. there is no reason why we cant eat the rest of the pig afther they took the heart. if you can put a live hart in a human to function we can cook and eat it.
actually world first pig human heart transplant was done some indian dude in assam around 1997 but later that dude was arrested because the patient later died after 7 days
It is more of a solution born out of sheer necessity, should terminal patients risk it out as test subjects, and should pigs be breed just to be farmed for organs? no, but like what other options do we have? Unlike, until the day we get to 3D or grow organs in a non living bioreactor, we kind of have to go with this. But yeah i don't think this is the future, it is more of a stopgap in our road towards better options.
sound perfectly reasonable to use pigs to grow organs. when you harvest the organs, you get them with a side of bacon, some porkchops and a nice pork roast.
Soon we will have pig head goat head and all that in cartoons too... Cool... I like the progression pattern already planted... Next ?? Human body silicon astral impressions ?? When they gonna tell us that .. ??
Animal activists that prefer animal survival over human survival may consider never taking meds again, because most of them come from experimentation with animals.
This Time will tell kinda deal. Maybe we should mandate this and push those don't take these surgeries. And create the Statistics for those who don't take the surgies
I really don't think that we should put so much effort in prolonging life after the body is ready to go. We should put all of that energy into preventing disease and promoting health education in schools.
Once space industry is available and , using 3d printing with gene editing, would allow us to grow them in away that exclusive to the patient and no pig deaths or carbon dioxide etc.produced by the animal.
I remember my elementary school science teacher telling us that her mom was the first person to receive a pig valve transplant. Really cool to see this advancement.
Amazing !
Tbh it's not first time ever research that on Google
@@paniccat502 yeah. unfortunately, I believe the person only survived for 7 days or so. This seems to be a huge improvement.
I guess You can say humans are pigs
@@thoyo ur teacher died a week after? wtf
Yes, it's ethical to offer an experimental procedure when it's the last option. You know it's ethical because the opposite of it would be completely unethical - denying someone a chance to save their own life just because it hadn't been done yet.
If it's ethical to raise animals for meat, then it's also ethical (even more so) to raise them for parts. Some day, we'll grow everything in a tube, but until then - we need this type of research to get us closer to the goals of better human health.
@@marshallcierovola376 it's not ethical to raise animals for meat.
@@mlgklipz2543 Sure it is. My ethics are simply not the same as yours.
@@mlgklipz2543 at least in the industrial world I agree. Some countries have no choice or other options of nutrition.
@@mlgklipz2543 I mean ethical or not farming animal have been what made our species survive. You can't really say that it's morally wrong. I agree that we do need a cruel free alternative, maybe someday we really can grow meat in a lab. But saying that raising animal for meat as unethical is really such a first world problem. People in third country like mine could even be considered lucky if they can buy meat daily.
David Bennett, 57, died 2 months after the transplantation on March 8 at the University of Maryland Medical Center. Doctors didn't give an exact cause of death, saying only that his condition had begun deteriorating several days earlier.
At first the pig heart was functioning, and the Maryland hospital issued periodic updates that Bennett seemed to be slowly recovering. Last month, the hospital released video of him watching the Super Bowl from his hospital bed while working with his physical therapist.
Bennett survived significantly longer with the gene-edited pig heart than one of the last milestones in xenotransplantation - when Baby Fae, a dying California infant, lived 21 days with a baboon's heart in 1984.
Why should farming animals for organ donations be any more unethical than farming them for meat?
Exactly. Both are completely unethical.
The first case is saving your life and the second is to feed you.
Both unethical but the first case is priority for us.
The ethical question will only slow the process of these things becoming normal but it will never stop it
Which is frustrating
@Narja Some have different ethics than other. And some morons will try to halt this advancement.
If we can do it for bacon I think we can do it for a heart. I mean from a moral stand point which is more important.
I don't necessarily agree with the obvious slautering of animals it's just a point of view
I dont see the difference between raising pigs for food vs for organ transplants. If you think there is a difference I'll like to hear it.
I don't eat them either.
This is better. U take the heart n eat the rest.
I'm glad this guy can now relax and not worry if this is not gonna work he's a real legend for do this risk and now future generations can use it also
He passed away 2 months later
I never would have known my Grandfather without heart transplants. if people have ethical issues around using pigs in this matter I would hope as an alternative they are listed as organs donors as I am.
We saw similar uproar back when human organ donation started, but we got past it and we're mostly okay with it as a society. I just can't stop wondering about the personality traits we sometimes see in human to human transplantation and what we might discover about pigs in the process.
Also, we freaking eat pigs! I'd say raising them to save lives is a bit more ethical than that.
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 Regarding your well-made point that we already eat pigs; if anything these pigs live more comfortable lives than their farmed peers. After all, you wouldn't want to use the heart of a pig that has been overfed and mistreated such that it already suffers from heart disease! I'm willing to wager that these donor pigs see far more physical activity, with more consideration given to their overall health.
@@reidmock2165 agreed. And given how much more intelligent they are than horses, dogs or cats* it seems odd that we eat them anyway.
*Cats of course we're just guessing because they refuse to be tested.
Oh and if you're ever in the Jacksonville/Gainesville FL area look up blackberry pig farm. They're friends that raise their pigs very well and the difference in taste is astonishing. Stupidly I met the pigs and now I can't eat any pork
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 i mean we never eat animals based on intelligents
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 it is not stupid to be in connection with your compassion again. It is basic human decency to treat others with respect.
that is called speciesism: arbitrary discrimination against a certain species. It is just like any other "-ism". Society tells you to love dogs and cats but slit the throats of cows, pigs, chickens. All animals including humans have their own life and that life means just as much to them as it does for humans. We maybe be different in many ways, but we sare the same in the ways that matter: we feel pain, joy, fear, love.
Is that the surgeon at 3:53? He looks very intelligent.
After getting a new heart you can get Ham, Chops and Bacon.
this makes me soo happy
This is amazing! I hope someday we can have lab grown organs, but this is another great solution to this problem.
Iirc NASA was testing the growth of lab heart tissue in space
It can happen by using stem cell technology
Seeker thank you for making some of the best content 🔥🔥🔥👌👌
Interesting point about the zoonotic disease transfer, well worth looking into. Ethical arguments against sound pretty thin though imo, hope they don't impede scientific progress on this and lives being saved. Better medicine in other fields means less organs all the time, death rates from a lack of them will only go up.
Exactly, the argument about raising pigs for this when it has a high potential to save lives is a really bad one considering we're already using them as sustenance.
The other part about if it's ethical to offer procedures like this to the terminally ill because of desperation is also a bad one... something like this is definitely the better option if the other one is death.
Edit: Would've been cool if they had added the necessary genetic material for the cells within the heart to produce the telomerase enzyme like how the cells within a lobster does.
A MILESTONE IN MEDICAL SCIENCE
Great video!
You are perfect in narration and research, do not have complexes on it, what's wrong to be perfect with no complexities.
Absolutely ethical to give people a chance.
This shows how far we have come in research and methodologies of science
This was first done by a doctor from Assam, India in 1997. His name is Dr Dhaniram Baruah, a cardio thoracic surgeon and an inventor. At an international conference in 1995, Dr. Baruah had said that pigs are close to humans in various aspects. He had at the time developed an electric motor-driven artificial biological heart made of ox pericardium that was implanted in a pig.
When the pig heart transplant happened, it was revolutionary for that time, 25 years ago. Obviously the patient didn't survive for more than a week because we didn't have advanced genetic engineering back then, neither the knowledge and experience. But the worst part is, the doctor was ostracized instead of being encouraged. Locals didn't understand the procedure and thought the doctor was eccentric
Interesting
He died 2 months after that pig to human heart transplant due to unknown reason (or undisclosed)
Does anyone have a reason against raising pigs for organ transplants that isn't also relevant to raising pigs for food? We slaughter tons of pigs each day for food. They are both slaughtering pigs to keep people alive, either from starvation or organ failure.
You make it sound like everyone is okay with slaughtering pigs for food, which is not the case and is a rising trend.
@@Vipyoshii yeah idiots are against it
How about not eating them also?
The comments currently added to my question don't answer my original question. Yes, there are people who are against eating pork. However, to ask my question in different words... Let's just pretend raising pigs for food is accepted by anyone, does raising pigs for transplants make any NEW argument against it?
@@tonys.1946 Yes, there are still some issues. These are not the same pigs. The "Organ-Pig" do have to be genetically modified (if I understood correctly). That raises the question if it is okay, for us to do that?.... But in a world where we do not have ANY concerns with eating other animals, then i guess it wouldnt matter what else we would do with them
This anchor have achieved amazing transformation by going noticeably lean and fit than before, kudos and call the animal swine not pig.
Thank you
That is outstandingly amazing!!!
Sooooo..
Does eating Bacon qualify as cannibalism now?
yes, more specifically. Partial cannibalism.
Partially, perhaps? But only if you eat the meat from one of the genetically modified pigs, which may or may not be used for food in the first place.
That is really neat!! 🙂
Madnesss mate!
Can't see why it's unethical when it's a fight for survival
Hey Seeker family!! What about making a video about the superionic earth's core? I saw the video about the superionic ice but it's kind of outdated since that was speaking about it but when this discovery wasn't still found, so I still have the floating question in my mind about how are magnetic fields different from each other since we know now that we share the same superionic core??
A video on heart on Valentine's Day. 😄 Happy Valentine's day Maren
wow, I remember them talking about pig heart transplants in the 90's.
Pig Heart Transplant is my new grungecore band.
I didn't realise how many more novel aspects there were to this procedure. Fingers crossed it can be a more systemic solution
Great video. Have your video editors turn down the hsss when you say your 's' words. It was hard to listen to with earbuds
What a day to post these heart transplant 😂👌
would it be possible to make the pig hearts super performat and then transplant them?
Could you please make a video on EM drive
Excitement around this procedure will be relatively short lived as the development of growing just a heart are well on the way.
Heart transplant patients often end up with characteristics of the donor. 😱
That is an insult to the pig.
So they're gonna become cops 😜
It's ironic how the same thing that can increase your risk for heart disease from its consumption is also the same thing we need to replace our heart. My grandma use to say a "A radical sore calls for a radical cure"
December my grandson received a trunk line from a cow. He had mono trunk
Yeah have you heard about this new approach about a healthy diet and exercise and leaving the pigs alone. That's pretty ground breaking stuff
so cool!
Princess Leah hair style = adorable
its hard to find a falacy in seekers dispositions but i found one. there is no reason why we cant eat the rest of the pig afther they took the heart. if you can put a live hart in a human to function we can cook and eat it.
where did they find a donor cop?
more heart stuff pelaseeeee
actually world first pig human heart transplant was done some indian dude in assam around 1997 but later that dude was arrested because the patient later died after 7 days
Things have come a long way from making a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
Raising pigs for burger patty is fine ? But raising them for saving lives is not ?? How ??
very nice
It is more of a solution born out of sheer necessity, should terminal patients risk it out as test subjects, and should pigs be breed just to be farmed for organs? no, but like what other options do we have?
Unlike, until the day we get to 3D or grow organs in a non living bioreactor, we kind of have to go with this.
But yeah i don't think this is the future, it is more of a stopgap in our road towards better options.
She's so beautiful I need another heart to work properly now.
RIP piggie.
We already raise pigs to swatters their bodies.
At organ transplants carry memories
Great👍👍👍❤
4:28 that’s the whole point of clinical trials though ??
Did the pig received the human heart?
Is it possible?
If this becomes mainstream I'd ask for two hearts for redundancy...
4:32 i see what you did there
What's the lifespan of the hearts though?
I guess we will find out.
Dice em up and use all the parts.
sound perfectly reasonable to use pigs to grow organs. when you harvest the organs, you get them with a side of bacon, some porkchops and a nice pork roast.
Soon we will have pig head goat head and all that in cartoons too... Cool... I like the progression pattern already planted... Next ?? Human body silicon astral impressions ?? When they gonna tell us that .. ??
Thanks 😊, iam from india
Next were grafting tails and cheetah paws so we got real life cat girls
Pigs being raised to get slaughtered and eaten: ok.
Pigs being raised to get slaughtered and their hearths used: no.
Makes sense.
Holy cow!... or pig
Animal activists that prefer animal survival over human survival may consider never taking meds again, because most of them come from experimentation with animals.
who remembers the TV show as a kid
This Time will tell kinda deal. Maybe we should mandate this and push those don't take these surgeries.
And create the Statistics for those who don't take the surgies
poor pig....may pig soul in peace
Haha u probably eat pork why are u so mad at the inevitable death of these livestock
@Narja muslims dont eat pork bc they believe pig is dirty animal
Does that make the recipient a guinea pig?
On valentines day were talking about heart transplant of pigs to humans.
Update , he's dead 3 months later
Why cant we clone organs ?
How did they even discover that cocaine may help? 😅
Next will be experiments with lizards to regrow an arm lol
And you can BBQ the rest of the pig. Win/win.
I F*#$&!@ love science!
I really don't think that we should put so much effort in prolonging life after the body is ready to go. We should put all of that energy into preventing disease and promoting health education in schools.
My heart sweeter than bacon, child!
every day we get closer to oryx and crake
So the conspiracy theory that they're making pig-human Chimeras and human-pig Chimeras is just regular news now.
That shirt is so lame. Love it
Fun fact, the guy who received the heart murdered a person 30yrs ago. One more ethical concern raised by people.
Dude has a heart full of cocaine and bacon. That's badass.
Kehidupan
Officer, the cocaine is medicinal.
Cortisol, adrenaline and cocaine. 😂
Its 2nd time earlier this has been done in india
Was she wearing a Whoop?
Woah
Cool
Once space industry is available and , using 3d printing with gene editing, would allow us to grow them in away that exclusive to the patient and no pig deaths or carbon dioxide etc.produced by the animal.
With her hair like that, she kind of look like princess Leia.
Ethical problems are holding humanity back... We should figure out a way to deal with them cuz this should have already happened
Please scientists to conceive and to fine-tune transplantation of the horse c+ck, and put me in pole position of the list!