Hello Sir, I have 2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R, I want to change transmission fluid drain and refill, which is best fluid other OEM? Because dealer selling 5 Gallon Bucket Only. Somebody suggested Castrol Transmax ATF / CVT Universal but I am still scared. Please suggest me
@MrSubaru1387 will this scanner THINKSCAN 689BT give me the ability to read transmission temperature? And why don't you remove the pan and get all the crud out?
My daughter has a 2011 legacy that I believe had an issue with chain slip, although I don't have any data recordings to show it. The dealership told us we needed to replace the CVT, which was going to total out the car. I did a fluid drain and fill with Subaru fluid, and it eventually stopped slipping. That was almost 100k miles ago. I think degraded fluid is a contributor. I now drain and fill every 30k miles.
Just curious, for the drain and fill do you use a scan tool to monitor the fluid temp and do the whole Drive / Reverse / Neutral before sealing up the CVT? Do you also need to do the CVT relearn each time?
@@bys5036workI used a temp gun. Just start filling at the minimum temp. Temp gun is just a few degrees lower than inside the case. It heats up fast. I noticed just going through the gears one time on a cold engine, the temperature is right around the minimum.
@@bys5036work I also just used a temp gun, got the outside of the case to min temp, cycled the shift lever through its positions then back to "park." It runs just great and I never performed an "official" re-learn because I don't have an expensive tool to do that.
Hey @MrSubaru1387! We have the EXACT SAME VEHICLE! I've owned it since 2012 (second owner) and has 164K. Still going strong. I replaced the CVT fluid at 100K miles out of an abundance of caution (and after rejecting the advice at the time from Subaru that this fluid was good for the "lifetime" of the vehicle; translation: until the vehicle was out of warranty and no longer Subaru's problem). I am so grateful for your work in putting these videos together. They are absolute GOLD for DIY'ers like me/us. Maybe someday I can buy you a drink/coffee/meal to thank you! Hope you have a great rest of your day ahead.
@@earlyriser5220 The power delivery to the wheels definitely felt smoother. It's something I definitely plan to keep doing to get as much life out of the vehicle as I can. Definitely go for it if yo'ure on the fence--just get a temp gauge to make sure the CVT temp is right before you close it up.
And that's why I replaced my CVT fluid in my 2016 Crosstrek. Waited a little longer than I probably should have (just shy of 60k) but the old fluid looked pretty good with only a normal/minimal amount of wear particulates. No glitter party for me! Love your vids!
@@TriRaMYNasara-xw3tp Old school (non-CVT auto) is 36k. I was doing some other maintenance on my Crosstrek and figured it was a good time to just take care of everything while there. Better a little early than too late!
Excellent video and that is exactly what my CVT was doing. An independent mechanic found the problem immediately after two different Subaru dealers went into their Sgt Schulz routine claiming that they "heard nothing nor felt anything." BTW, if you hear a short chirp when putting the car into gear, that is the start of the slipping issue.
@@Marco-qe5zw Who told you that? Your dealer? If it was normal every single one of them would chirp when brand new. Mine never chirped until 60,000 miles. A few thousand miles later, I had the full screeching belt slipping.
2013 Forester and had my transmission guy change the fluid at 58,367 miles. He said it was very dirty and my request to change it was a good idea. I wasn’t having any problems and wanted to avoid problems. I believe there is no such thing as lifetime fluid.
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I really appreciate it. I do my best to keep up my Subaru's maintenance items. Thanks again for an excellent video.
The chain "wear" on the pulley can wear through the case-hardening on one side of one of the pulleys. When the resulting groove on the pulley wall is deep enough the chain will hang up in the groove then when the ratio changes come down into the pulley valley with a strong jerk. The fix is to replace the entire CVT as a unit. Ask me how I know.
@@lazaroyumar3092 Absolutely. The Ascent had some teething problems out of the box but the Forester is a very proven vehicle. All my Subarus have been very long life and very dependable. My CVT issue was in my '90 Justy, the first modern CVT vehicle made. Again teething problems. But in that case very unique ones.
@@rodh2168 Thank you very much for your reply, I am really considering the 8-seat Ascent, although I am still a little scared about the CVT, but I think that by doing the maintenance (oil change) every 30k miles I will not have any problems 👍🙏
@@lazaroyumar3092 If you need the space go with the Ascent. Subaru is a smaller very customer-oriented company and you shouldn't have any problems should an issue arise. Very safe vehicle as are all their products. The Subaru CVT is a proven tech so no worries. To insure longevity just follow the maintenance schedule in the book. I use Mobil 1 oil and filter. No need to try to out-think the people who designed the vehicle.
I had a 2017 Nissan Versa with the CVT, and to me you have to overmaintain these transmissions regardless of make. Anytime you hear "lifetime" anything just ignore it. The Lincoln hybrid I daily now has a recommended 150k fluid change in its CVT, but I changed it three times during that period.
Thanks for your comments about misfire. My Subaru was occasionally jerking when accelerating at low speeds. I feared CVT trouble. My mechanic found evidence of misfires on cylinder #3. New Sparkplugs (and valve cover gaskets)...now 100 miles later no problem. Hope it's going to be okay! Whew!
how many miles was this happening to your spark plug? im at 60k and i know the maintenance schedule says to replace the spark plugs but i feel like its too early for titanium spark plugs. and i figured if it started to misfire like what you dealt with I can just set up an appointment to replace.
@@jcosta223I just replaced mine on my ‘17 Impreza at 104k. I wasn’t having any issues but figured it would be good to do them. The gap on them was roughly about 0.040” and the new spec I think is 0.031” give or take. You can go quite a bit longer but doesn’t hurt to change them before you have issues.
< 25 = D 4th < 45 > 5th Thank you so much for doing these CVT videos. I think I have chain slip in my 2012 outback with 117k miles. I've been driving it in manual for the last 2 months and I can almost completely avoid the squeals and hesitation. My trick is to leave it in Drive from a 0 to 25mpg, then I switch to Manual mode and keep it in 4th gear. Over 45mpg I use 5th. Under 25 keep in Drive 4th under 45 5th over 45 < 25 = D 4th < 45 > 5th
That's cool and all but realistically it's a ticking time bomb if it chain slipped once. So, don't be surprised if one day it just quits on you in the middle of the road.
I think the RPM spike will almost always show up on primary no matter where the slip occurs, since torque originates on primary (unless the car is going down a steep hill or something).
Subaru Cvt are good transmissions but require clean fluid,my boyfriend bought a 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6 as a Truck replacement for farm work,the deal was to good to pass up. It has 197,000 k on it but runs a drives great save for the Cvt acting odd. I told him he has to flush it ,he drained it out and it was much much better but still acted odd.I told him to do it again in about 800 miles he ignored me until I stole it while he was at work and did it. Now it drives totally different , the strange rubber-band effect is gone,the surging all of that is gone and now you know how much it was slipping. They take twice to get all that old fluid out. He used Triax CVT fluid and it works wonderful.
CVT oil change intervall in the official subaru maintenance plan for Switzerland is 40k miles or 4 years. Dont know why it is that short. But here Subarus are very popular with farmers in the mountains and the cars get some abuse.
I had a similar experience but it was the throttle body being dirty 😂.Had the dealership do it and the car drives amazing and even better MPG lasts me 7-10days driving city.
Oil changes are key to reduce wear. But eventually the transmission will fail due to normal wear. All CVT will eventually fail. A major question is should you simply change the actual CVT unit once your valve block fails because you would be able to save money on labour by doing both jobs in the same time or wait. A mechanic will advise you to wait because he will charge you twice but logically if the transmission already has a lot of kms and you are planning to keep the car you might as well do both at least in my opinion.
Ordered it. In fact, ordered a number of items you have recommended over the years. I’m hoping that’s enough to have you help me follow your recommendation in this video, to perform proper maintenance - towing with our 2021 Forester - coming up on 24,000 [40,000 km] change point for the CVT fluid.
Mr Subaru, I've been contemplating finding a wrecked 6 speed 2010 or 2011 Outback and converting my 2011 Outback CVT to a manual. Any idea how difficult this would be ??
Please you need to make a video about the 2020 Subaru ascent transmission problems , my wife owns one and it’s been a headache the dealership can’t even diagnose the problem they just want to replace it and they don’t guarantee that’s not going to happen again.
OH BOY. i keep seeing these videos. all i know is my 2023 Subaru Legacy Limited has 21,000 miles on it and the CVT fluid is getting changed next month and then afterwards every 20,000 miles. not taking any chances.
I have a 2016 Forester XT, made for the EU market. There is a CVT fluid change coming in the next year, the OEM stuff (oragne CVT-HT fluid) comes with the K0421Y0700 and SOA748V0200 codes, not sure what's the difference but can't really buy any of those anyway. There are two Motul alternatives, the first "MOTUL SUBARU HT CVTF AP", you can't really buy this one either, and the "MOTUL MULTI CVTF" fluid what is widely available but not sure if it's ok to use it even is the Motul site said so. Do you have any good or bad expreience with any of the aftermarket CVT fluids?
@@atticstattic It would reduce particulate size below the Lambda of the oil. That would help reduce abrasion on the chain and variator cones. (maintain particulates below the size of the thickness of the oil film between mating surfaces)
I have a 2017 WRX it has 70k on it. I just had the service for a trans. Flush and fluid change. They found the torque diff. Seal leaking it was covered under warranty. He said its a problem they are starting to see more. Just wondering if you have come across this issue. Thanks :)
What is your recommended method to wash the engine and engine bay? My 2016 outback limited has 239k miles, and runs strong as an ox. The engine compartment is filthy and I'd like to clean it without damaging any electronics/electrical components. Thanks for the videos!
2016 Subaru Legacy 2.5i limited Hi, subscriber here. I’ve just watched your AC compressor issues video. I have a couple questions. I turn on heat or AC, and I hear a rattling that comes on every few minutes. What could be the problem? My battery died a last year, so I put a brand new one in. Only problem is, I have “Christmas lights” on my dash. (Blinking AT OIL TEMP, ABS, Eyesight, traction control, lane assist and a couple others). I’m told that the regular ODB readers can’t clear or reset. Only the Subaru dealership. I’ve tried relearn. I’ve tried unplugging the negative for 20 minutes. No change. With that being said. It has deactivated my AWD and sensors… I don’t have any driving issues with the car. Starts and runs perfectly fine. What could the problem be?
Hi Robert 😊hope youre doing well. Ive stumbled your subaru channel on youtube. Thank you for all the info about subarus. I’ve recently purchased a 2015 OB 3.6r with 125k miles for my wife. Weve been impressed with the car so far. You made a video that subaru cvt is pretty reliable when not abused and also when its serviced. You mentioned valve body. What symptoms i should look out for if my valve body is failing? Is this main issue on the tr690 HT cvts? Cheers🙏
What’s your opinion on using the shifter pedals? Not for crazy launchings or aggressive driver but for engine breaking, and keeping the engine RPM closer to the power band from time time and certain occasions
I have a 2014 Outback that had the CVT replaced in 2021 at 98k miles due to chain slip. I had a Subaru maintenance manager refuse to do a drain and fill When I hit 33k miles because he stated it was a lifetime fluid. Change your fluid folks.
I flew half way across Canada to buy a 2023 Impreza with a manual transmission. My old 99 Impreza did 400,000 km and it's manual tranny was as tight as new. I'll never buy a car with a CVT.
I've only owned 5 vehicles in 41 years of driving. The fifth one is a 24 crosstrek sport. I've never owned a Subaru, so we shall see. At 57 myself, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if #5 will be my last car purchase as well.
I have a 2019 Ascent with only 55k miles and it had the CVT serviced under a recall not long ago. I’m having some hesitation at low speeds, kind of a jerking motion. I was worried about slip but there’s no squeal. It’s more like it just can’t figure out what it wants to do with light acceleration at low speeds. Flooring it works fine and it pulls good. Any ideas?
My wife has a 2019 as well with 100,000km(60K miles) and have the same issue but its when I am at apex 80km/hr and let off the gas then re accelerate gives almost a shudder. Only does it here and there. I had the recall done and no issues they found, brought it back two more times and they say they can not replicate the issue. We have owned it since new , all fluids/maintenance have been done on time so I have no idea what the issue is. This is our first Subaru and doesn't give me to much confidence keeping it long term. Always kept my Toyotas long term with no issues but I fear this won't be the case with the Subaru.
Update, I took my 2017 3.6r Outback in to get the CVT fluid changed to see i it would help the chain slipping go away - the technician experienced the chain slip, the dealership communicated with Subaru and found there is a warranty on the CVT and the whole thing got replaced under warranty ! Hope this helps others with this issue.
My 2017 3.6r outback does that momentary hesitation and squeal usually with in the first 1-2 miles of driving and usually only once per trip. Does this sound like chain slip. I'm thinking of getting the fluid changed to see if that will help
2021 Subaru Ascent. Original owner. Experienced chain slip at 28k miles. Subaru initially insisted what I was experiencing was not transmission related, however, after they experienced the same issues when driving my Ascent, they confirmed it was the transmission and replaced it at 31k miles. Now, at 41k miles my transmission is yet again toast. My Ascent has only ever been serviced at a Subaru dealer for all regular maintenance and for repairs for several other malfunctions under warranty. My question is, why would my chain be slipping on such a new vehicle and in the exact same conditions. Issues in both transmissions are experienced in cold weather (below 32 degrees), only when the drive is greater than 1 hour nonstop, and when I am passing or accelerating from a stop (0 to 45, 0 to 60, and 0 to 75mph). Given the repeat issue, could this be something beyond just the CVT?
Where can I post other Subaru question? Looking at a new outback and don't kike the automatic diming feature if the rear view mirror. Makes it hard to see behind clearly. Can that be disabled?
Hi, I was wondering for a while, should I do the complete flush of my tr690 gearbox in outback 2.0d (I am from Europe) Or maybe drain and fill will be good enough. Main concern is not to damage gearbox during flush procedure Thanks for any help
I have a question about the 2011 H6 series I want to add more power to it but they say the CVT transmission can’t handle more than it already has what would be the best option?I would love to manual swap it, but I can’t seem to find much about that. is possible?
Hey! I have a 2015 Outback and this video was extremely helpful! Was curious though if the transmission fluid has never been replaced is it better to leave it alone and not replace it? I've heard mixed things from people and I'd think you'd want to get the particulates out no matter what but I'm not a mechanic.
I been watched your videos, and I have a question, I have a 2016 forester with not x mode , can be installed a transmission oil cooler or not ? Thanks .
Seeking Help with 2009 Subaru Tribeca Transmission Issue After changing the transmission fluid, my 2009 Subaru Tribeca's gears refuse to shift. My mechanics have already run diagnostic software, but unfortunately, the problem persists. Could you please suggest potential next steps or troubleshooting measures to resolve this issue?
In December 2018 we bought a 2019 Foerster. Shortly after we got the email from Subaru about the extended warranty, don't change the fluid until after 100000 miles. Will it cause damage if I change it now at 127000, like an old style auto trans?
I recently brought a 2017 levorg 2.0 gt-s. It has 95,000 klm on the clock. At 88k it had the trans removed and the fluid pump replaced due to a leak. What's the chances they had to flush and replace the fluid or would it just have been topped up ? TR690 cvt
@@mockingbirdwishmeluck6403 I recently brought it. The cvt oil pump was done 7,000klm ago. The paperwork I have just says the pump was leaking and cvt was removed and sent to a local transmission shop for pump replacement under warranty
Mr. Subaru, would running AMSOIL CVT oil be a good alternative ? My buddy is a dealer and I can get it at cost. What are your thoughts on this oil vs Subaru CVT oil ?
Have any videos working on a 94 Subaru Legacy? I have a Leaky Gas Tank & Lines I need to replace so anything in that ballpark would help if you have any videos like that, thanks
No slip on my '17( edit), 2.5i Forester. 195000 miles. Fluid drain interval is every 30 K( since new), same interval on both diffs. No scan tool but still runs same rpm (2000) at 70mph as when I drove it off the lot.
@@gary_beniford about a pint during my 5000 mi OCI. I kep it topped up during that time Never any check engine lights. Have always done my own oil changes using full syn AMsoil, 5000 mi. OCI, and recently Kirkland( costco full syn).
@@lazaroyumar3092 Buy a used , low- mile '17, non- turbo.This was the last year of port injection. '18 ,and newer have DI motors that require periodic , expensive cleaning of the intake valves.
Our 24 forester it’s at only 10k miles and I asked the maintenance department on our last oil change and they said they recommend the first cvt service at 100k miles.
@@powertools2375 they'll say that bc like what MrSubaru said, in US that's the company line to keep repair/maintenance costs down. But in Japan & Canada, they suggest like 35-50k.
Can you make a video about how to achieve a 200k+ mile lifespan from a Subaru? How often should I change the oil? What should I replace at 100k miles? How can I avoid costly repairs for Subarus in particular?
Change the oil every 3k miles keep it checked frequently. CVT fluid every 15k-30k miles do your diffs at the same time. Coolant every 50-75k miles depending on the type of coolant and which engine you have
Thanks for the video, i have a subaru xv 2022 (eboxer EU version) with the Th58 cvt . Looking for what cvt fluid to use in this gearbox i get conflicting information from different sources including dealers. I would appreciate if you can provide some insight into this :). Any ideea what subaru cvf fluid does this gearbox require or where i can find some new resources about this topic ?
I have the same slippage but it's weird because when the car is running for over 20-30 min it stop slipping maybe fluid is warm or circulator with the grit also it slip at speeds 46-55 mph
I swapped out old cvt on my 2016 legacy and installed 2019 outback cvt on it(is not even been a year since that), ive been driving and rn it shakes while accelerating, and shakes while stopping, i took it in the repair shop and they said that it wasnt the tranny, it is an inner axle problem but im not sure. can u recommend anything?
It also got misfire, ive diagnosed it and computer said that air to fuel ratio is messed up. i also hear it on the passengers side that air is getting sucked inside manifold, can that cause problem?
Logic is telling me you would never see slippage on the secondary pulley. The primary is the input/engine side so that one would slip under load. If the driven/secondary pulley is slipping, it would still show up as a slip on the primary, not?
Looking at a 14 forester that a dealer replaced the shortblock (failed oil consumption test) and Valve body. They want 8K with 110K. Seems like all the major issues would be addressed.
Anyone know what makes a poping sound in the cvt, I replaced wheel bearings, axles and sway bar links. Sounds just like a bad cv pop sound but when driving straight
We've got a '14 Forester with the 2.5l and about 125k on the clock, about 70% highway. Up to now I've followed Subaru's schedule and NOT changed the fluid. I've seen all sorts of arguments both ways and it's a confusing mess. Your voice i trust and realize i should have the service done. Question is, will a fluid change negatively affect a transmission with that many miles? It's operated flawlessly up to now.
Yikes I never changed the fluid in my CVT and it’s at 230,000 miles. I once asked my dealership about changing the fluid but they said it was a sealed and isn’t to be serviced.
Thank the EPA. They rate a vehicle's carbon footprint based on fuel consumption and service intervals. If you extend the service interval the carbon footprint goes down
On a side not. How does one test the signal to a EJ injector. New Injector But on scan tool shutting Injector 4 down has no effect on rpm. (misfire cly4 2007 Foresterx)
@@MrSubaru1387 don't have them. But if there is no pulse I would have to go further. Can I skip the light and test the output with a meter. And if so what should I be looking for.
I don’t need to watch the video to say, I have personally obliterated a 2019 civic cvt. I drove it like a moron as you would a 6 step automatic. And the rough driving killed the cvt. After that little “warranty” coverage repair at the dealer, I religiously maintained the new cvt with oil changes and even filters that they don’t tell you about and is easy to miss.
Do you have anything on Rack And Pinions? Apparently for the 2008 Impreza there are different versions, and no one but Subaru sells the second version? Spoke to a remanufacturer (BBB Industry) and they aren't even aware there are different versions for the same car. Are you aware of this yourself? Or are you also unaware?
Just like to mention so not changing cvt fluid is not owner neglect is what subaru recommends in garage,dealership, owners manual mainly because they generates income from new sales after they products failed by design build in😕 thats tell a lot about subaru aclaimed " quality " products, design 😕
Yeh I am done with Subaru unless they will come out with different transmission in the future. Dealer doesn’t even want to drain and fill cvt fluid in my city.
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Hello Sir,
I have 2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R, I want to change transmission fluid drain and refill, which is best fluid other OEM? Because dealer selling 5 Gallon Bucket Only.
Somebody suggested Castrol Transmax ATF / CVT Universal but I am still scared.
Please suggest me
@MrSubaru1387 will this scanner THINKSCAN 689BT give me the ability to read transmission temperature? And why don't you remove the pan and get all the crud out?
My daughter has a 2011 legacy that I believe had an issue with chain slip, although I don't have any data recordings to show it. The dealership told us we needed to replace the CVT, which was going to total out the car. I did a fluid drain and fill with Subaru fluid, and it eventually stopped slipping. That was almost 100k miles ago. I think degraded fluid is a contributor. I now drain and fill every 30k miles.
Just curious, for the drain and fill do you use a scan tool to monitor the fluid temp and do the whole Drive / Reverse / Neutral before sealing up the CVT? Do you also need to do the CVT relearn each time?
@@bys5036workI used a temp gun. Just start filling at the minimum temp. Temp gun is just a few degrees lower than inside the case. It heats up fast. I noticed just going through the gears one time on a cold engine, the temperature is right around the minimum.
GOOD TO KNOW! thanks
@@bys5036work I also just used a temp gun, got the outside of the case to min temp, cycled the shift lever through its positions then back to "park." It runs just great and I never performed an "official" re-learn because I don't have an expensive tool to do that.
Hey @MrSubaru1387! We have the EXACT SAME VEHICLE! I've owned it since 2012 (second owner) and has 164K. Still going strong. I replaced the CVT fluid at 100K miles out of an abundance of caution (and after rejecting the advice at the time from Subaru that this fluid was good for the "lifetime" of the vehicle; translation: until the vehicle was out of warranty and no longer Subaru's problem). I am so grateful for your work in putting these videos together. They are absolute GOLD for DIY'ers like me/us. Maybe someday I can buy you a drink/coffee/meal to thank you! Hope you have a great rest of your day ahead.
How did the car drive / Feel after you placed the fluid? Did you notice any difference?
@@earlyriser5220 The power delivery to the wheels definitely felt smoother. It's something I definitely plan to keep doing to get as much life out of the vehicle as I can. Definitely go for it if yo'ure on the fence--just get a temp gauge to make sure the CVT temp is right before you close it up.
I have the 2011 outback but only 33k
Supposed to change out transmission fluid every 60k anyway.
Change it and differentials every 30 to atleast 60 k
And that's why I replaced my CVT fluid in my 2016 Crosstrek. Waited a little longer than I probably should have (just shy of 60k) but the old fluid looked pretty good with only a normal/minimal amount of wear particulates. No glitter party for me! Love your vids!
Good but i guess its too early. Mine is at 90 000 already. Am planning though at 100 000 mileage . Cheers.🙂
@@TriRaMYNasara-xw3tp Old school (non-CVT auto) is 36k. I was doing some other maintenance on my Crosstrek and figured it was a good time to just take care of everything while there. Better a little early than too late!
thanks a lot Mr. Subaru, I will stay on top of my 2015 ForesterXT CVT 👍
You’re welcome!
Does driving the CVT in manual mode (where the chain constantly hits the same spot on the pulley to simulate a gear) accelerate the chain slip issue?
I think it does, me hitting the downshift to pass a lot I think is what accelerated mine
I had chain slip on my 2010 Outback. Replaced the CVT fluid and no more slip.
That's a win! 🙏🏻
@@MrSubaru1387second comment about fresh fluid fix!
Excellent video and that is exactly what my CVT was doing. An independent mechanic found the problem immediately after two different Subaru dealers went into their Sgt Schulz routine claiming that they "heard nothing nor felt anything."
BTW, if you hear a short chirp when putting the car into gear, that is the start of the slipping issue.
incorrect - a short chirp when the cvt is cold and put into gear is normal.
@@Marco-qe5zw Who told you that? Your dealer? If it was normal every single one of them would chirp when brand new. Mine never chirped until 60,000 miles. A few thousand miles later, I had the full screeching belt slipping.
2013 Forester and had my transmission guy change the fluid at 58,367 miles. He said it was very dirty and my request to change it was a good idea. I wasn’t having any problems and wanted to avoid problems. I believe there is no such thing as lifetime fluid.
I think the Forester only got the CVT in 2014. Your Forester probably has the 4EAT.
@@7894-q4g That would be great to not have a CVT. Thanks. I’ll check the code.
There absolutely is lifetime fluid!
It gets replaced when you replace the CVT😂😅
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I really appreciate it. I do my best to keep up my Subaru's maintenance items. Thanks again for an excellent video.
Thank you, this is wise advise to Subaru owners 👍 Au
It’s almost time for another yearly Winter prep video ❄️
my 2015 crosstrek has 210k miles no slipping yet. i do replace trans fluid regularly. best car we have.
What mileage do you flush your CVT fluid?
The chain "wear" on the pulley can wear through the case-hardening on one side of one of the pulleys. When the resulting groove on the pulley wall is deep enough the chain will hang up in the groove then when the ratio changes come down into the pulley valley with a strong jerk. The fix is to replace the entire CVT as a unit. Ask me how I know.
Thanks for your information, I really like Subaru and I want to buy a new Forester or Ascent, do you think it is advisable???
@@lazaroyumar3092 Absolutely. The Ascent had some teething problems out of the box but the Forester is a very proven vehicle. All my Subarus have been very long life and very dependable. My CVT issue was in my '90 Justy, the first modern CVT vehicle made. Again teething problems. But in that case very unique ones.
@@rodh2168 Thank you very much for your reply, I am really considering the 8-seat Ascent, although I am still a little scared about the CVT, but I think that by doing the maintenance (oil change) every 30k miles I will not have any problems 👍🙏
@@lazaroyumar3092 If you need the space go with the Ascent. Subaru is a smaller very customer-oriented company and you shouldn't have any problems should an issue arise. Very safe vehicle as are all their products. The Subaru CVT is a proven tech so no worries. To insure longevity just follow the maintenance schedule in the book. I use Mobil 1 oil and filter. No need to try to out-think the people who designed the vehicle.
Good info but would definitely like to see a video of it being fixed!!!!
I had a 2017 Nissan Versa with the CVT, and to me you have to overmaintain these transmissions regardless of make. Anytime you hear "lifetime" anything just ignore it. The Lincoln hybrid I daily now has a recommended 150k fluid change in its CVT, but I changed it three times during that period.
My 2001 Outback has 190K, the transmission is 💯😙
I was on my third manual transmission by 175k in my 01.
302k miles on the original 4EAT in my 2002 Outback L.L.Bean
180k problem-free miles with my 2004 with the 4EAT..
those are much more durable than the cvts
Thanks for your comments about misfire. My Subaru was occasionally jerking when accelerating at low speeds. I feared CVT trouble. My mechanic found evidence of misfires on cylinder #3. New Sparkplugs (and valve cover gaskets)...now 100 miles later no problem. Hope it's going to be okay! Whew!
Glad it wasn't the CVT!
how many miles was this happening to your spark plug? im at 60k and i know the maintenance schedule says to replace the spark plugs but i feel like its too early for titanium spark plugs. and i figured if it started to misfire like what you dealt with I can just set up an appointment to replace.
@@jcosta223 it was 125K. The plugs were not replaced previously. By the way, it was quite expensive!
@@carlnyberg2934 thanks. Definitely not replacing them yet as I've heard similar scenarios like yours.
@@jcosta223I just replaced mine on my ‘17 Impreza at 104k. I wasn’t having any issues but figured it would be good to do them. The gap on them was roughly about 0.040” and the new spec I think is 0.031” give or take. You can go quite a bit longer but doesn’t hurt to change them before you have issues.
I have a 2023 Forester and I only drive 5000 miles a year. When should I replace the CVT fluid? How often should I change it? Thank you
did a CVT fluid change on my 2017 Outback 3.6r at 80/120k kms (50/72k miles).
Thanks for video, good info. I change front & rear diff fluid every 30K on my 2017 WRX. How often should I change CVT transmission fluid? Tks.
The same. Drain and refill is advised for every 3 yrs or 36k miles.
Does the thinkcar scanner support the cvt relearn?
< 25 = D
4th < 45 > 5th
Thank you so much for doing these CVT videos.
I think I have chain slip in my 2012 outback with 117k miles. I've been driving it in manual for the last 2 months and I can almost completely avoid the squeals and hesitation.
My trick is to leave it in Drive from a 0 to 25mpg, then I switch to Manual mode and keep it in 4th gear. Over 45mpg I use 5th.
Under 25 keep in Drive
4th under 45
5th over 45
< 25 = D
4th < 45 > 5th
That's cool and all but realistically it's a ticking time bomb if it chain slipped once. So, don't be surprised if one day it just quits on you in the middle of the road.
@@rock962000 I'm sure you are right. It's a second vehicle and I only drive it around town.
Any concensus on OEM vs. aftermarket fluids?
From what I've heard there aren't any recorded incidents of non OE fluid causing issues if they're fresh
I think the RPM spike will almost always show up on primary no matter where the slip occurs, since torque originates on primary (unless the car is going down a steep hill or something).
Subaru Cvt are good transmissions but require clean fluid,my boyfriend bought a 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6 as a Truck replacement for farm work,the deal was to good to pass up. It has 197,000 k on it but runs a drives great save for the Cvt acting odd. I told him he has to flush it ,he drained it out and it was much much better but still acted odd.I told him to do it again in about 800 miles he ignored me until I stole it while he was at work and did it. Now it drives totally different , the strange rubber-band effect is gone,the surging all of that is gone and now you know how much it was slipping. They take twice to get all that old fluid out. He used Triax CVT fluid and it works wonderful.
CVT oil change intervall in the official subaru maintenance plan for Switzerland is 40k miles or 4 years. Dont know why it is that short. But here Subarus are very popular with farmers in the mountains and the cars get some abuse.
Thanks for this video. Very informative.
Where is a suitable p,ace to have theCVT fluid changed if the dealer won’t do it?
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I had a similar experience but it was the throttle body being dirty 😂.Had the dealership do it and the car drives amazing and even better MPG lasts me 7-10days driving city.
Oil changes are key to reduce wear. But eventually the transmission will fail due to normal wear. All CVT will eventually fail. A major question is should you simply change the actual CVT unit once your valve block fails because you would be able to save money on labour by doing both jobs in the same time or wait. A mechanic will advise you to wait because he will charge you twice but logically if the transmission already has a lot of kms and you are planning to keep the car you might as well do both at least in my opinion.
Ordered it. In fact, ordered a number of items you have recommended over the years. I’m hoping that’s enough to have you help me follow your recommendation in this video, to perform proper maintenance - towing with our 2021 Forester - coming up on 24,000 [40,000 km] change point for the CVT fluid.
Mr Subaru, I've been contemplating finding a wrecked 6 speed 2010 or 2011 Outback and converting my 2011 Outback CVT to a manual. Any idea how difficult this would be ??
Please you need to make a video about the 2020 Subaru ascent transmission problems , my wife owns one and it’s been a headache the dealership can’t even diagnose the problem they just want to replace it and they don’t guarantee that’s not going to happen again.
2020 forester here and tranny issues too
OH BOY. i keep seeing these videos. all i know is my 2023 Subaru Legacy Limited has 21,000 miles on it and the CVT fluid is getting changed next month and then afterwards every 20,000 miles. not taking any chances.
Japan is stricter on maintenance which CVT drain and fluid is 30k ,reason they do not have issues where USDM has failures.
I have a 2016 Forester XT, made for the EU market. There is a CVT fluid change coming in the next year, the OEM stuff (oragne CVT-HT fluid) comes with the K0421Y0700 and SOA748V0200 codes, not sure what's the difference but can't really buy any of those anyway. There are two Motul alternatives, the first "MOTUL SUBARU HT CVTF AP", you can't really buy this one either, and the "MOTUL MULTI CVTF" fluid what is widely available but not sure if it's ok to use it even is the Motul site said so. Do you have any good or bad expreience with any of the aftermarket CVT fluids?
What about installing a filter in the cooling lines, to capture particles finer than the pickup screen filter?
What would that do for the CVT?
@@atticstattic It would reduce particulate size below the Lambda of the oil. That would help reduce abrasion on the chain and variator cones. (maintain particulates below the size of the thickness of the oil film between mating surfaces)
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Again, why would a filter on the cooling lines do that?
I have a 2017 WRX it has 70k on it.
I just had the service for a trans. Flush and fluid change.
They found the torque diff. Seal leaking it was covered under warranty. He said its a problem they are starting to see more.
Just wondering if you have come across this issue.
Thanks :)
Please say what years these videos apply to. I have a 2024. Does this apply to my engine? It would be nice to know so I can move on to other things.
What is your recommended method to wash the engine and engine bay? My 2016 outback limited has 239k miles, and runs strong as an ox. The engine compartment is filthy and I'd like to clean it without damaging any electronics/electrical components. Thanks for the videos!
2016 Subaru Legacy 2.5i limited
Hi, subscriber here.
I’ve just watched your AC compressor issues video. I have a couple questions.
I turn on heat or AC, and I hear a rattling that comes on every few minutes. What could be the problem?
My battery died a last year, so I put a brand new one in. Only problem is, I have “Christmas lights” on my dash. (Blinking AT OIL TEMP, ABS, Eyesight, traction control, lane assist and a couple others). I’m told that the regular ODB readers can’t clear or reset. Only the Subaru dealership. I’ve tried relearn. I’ve tried unplugging the negative for 20 minutes. No change. With that being said. It has deactivated my AWD and sensors… I don’t have any driving issues with the car. Starts and runs perfectly fine. What could the problem be?
Hi Robert 😊hope youre doing well. Ive stumbled your subaru channel on youtube.
Thank you for all the info about subarus.
I’ve recently purchased a 2015 OB 3.6r with 125k miles for my wife. Weve been impressed with the car so far. You made a video that subaru cvt is pretty reliable when not abused and also when its serviced. You mentioned valve body. What symptoms i should look out for if my valve body is failing? Is this main issue on the tr690 HT cvts? Cheers🙏
When shifting from park to drive i hear a small half second chirp or i think slip. Is this a problem?
This is a 2020 outback
@@LDimmock Mine used to make that chip, sounds like a mini burn out from the tires, now it doesn't make it after putting in a new CVT.
What’s your opinion on using the shifter pedals? Not for crazy launchings or aggressive driver but for engine breaking, and keeping the engine RPM closer to the power band from time time and certain occasions
I have a 2014 Outback that had the CVT replaced in 2021 at 98k miles due to chain slip. I had a Subaru maintenance manager refuse to do a drain and fill
When I hit 33k miles because he stated it was a lifetime fluid. Change your fluid folks.
Question. Do you need a map computer too tell computer too re learn after changing transmission fluids
I flew half way across Canada to buy a 2023 Impreza with a manual transmission. My old 99 Impreza did 400,000 km and it's manual tranny was as tight as new. I'll never buy a car with a CVT.
Good on ya! Enjoy your new car.
Eventually you may not have a choice.
@@Ray-hr9tb There are still plenty of cars and trucks with geared transmissions.
@@Ray-hr9tb I'm 60 years old, my last Subaru lasted for 24 years, so if I get the same life out of this one, it might be my last car.
I've only owned 5 vehicles in 41 years of driving. The fifth one is a 24 crosstrek sport. I've never owned a Subaru, so we shall see. At 57 myself, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if #5 will be my last car purchase as well.
I have a 2019 Ascent with only 55k miles and it had the CVT serviced under a recall not long ago. I’m having some hesitation at low speeds, kind of a jerking motion. I was worried about slip but there’s no squeal. It’s more like it just can’t figure out what it wants to do with light acceleration at low speeds. Flooring it works fine and it pulls good. Any ideas?
My wife has a 2019 as well with 100,000km(60K miles) and have the same issue but its when I am at apex 80km/hr and let off the gas then re accelerate gives almost a shudder. Only does it here and there. I had the recall done and no issues they found, brought it back two more times and they say they can not replicate the issue. We have owned it since new , all fluids/maintenance have been done on time so I have no idea what the issue is. This is our first Subaru and doesn't give me to much confidence keeping it long term. Always kept my Toyotas long term with no issues but I fear this won't be the case with the Subaru.
Is there a video on the 2015 with a misfire?
Update, I took my 2017 3.6r Outback in to get the CVT fluid changed to see i it would help the chain slipping go away - the technician experienced the chain slip, the dealership communicated with Subaru and found there is a warranty on the CVT and the whole thing got replaced under warranty ! Hope this helps others with this issue.
I’ve got 30k. Just like my Honda and Toyota change fluids early. It’s cheap and easy to do.
My 2017 3.6r outback does that momentary hesitation and squeal usually with in the first 1-2 miles of driving and usually only once per trip. Does this sound like chain slip. I'm thinking of getting the fluid changed to see if that will help
2021 Subaru Ascent. Original owner. Experienced chain slip at 28k miles. Subaru initially insisted what I was experiencing was not transmission related, however, after they experienced the same issues when driving my Ascent, they confirmed it was the transmission and replaced it at 31k miles. Now, at 41k miles my transmission is yet again toast. My Ascent has only ever been serviced at a Subaru dealer for all regular maintenance and for repairs for several other malfunctions under warranty.
My question is, why would my chain be slipping on such a new vehicle and in the exact same conditions. Issues in both transmissions are experienced in cold weather (below 32 degrees), only when the drive is greater than 1 hour nonstop, and when I am passing or accelerating from a stop (0 to 45, 0 to 60, and 0 to 75mph). Given the repeat issue, could this be something beyond just the CVT?
Where can I post other Subaru question? Looking at a new outback and don't kike the automatic diming feature if the rear view mirror. Makes it hard to see behind clearly. Can that be disabled?
Hi, I was wondering for a while, should I do the complete flush of my tr690 gearbox in outback 2.0d (I am from Europe)
Or maybe drain and fill will be good enough.
Main concern is not to damage gearbox during flush procedure
Thanks for any help
I have a question about the 2011 H6 series I want to add more power to it but they say the CVT transmission can’t handle more than it already has what would be the best option?I would love to manual swap it, but I can’t seem to find much about that. is possible?
Hey! I have a 2015 Outback and this video was extremely helpful! Was curious though if the transmission fluid has never been replaced is it better to leave it alone and not replace it? I've heard mixed things from people and I'd think you'd want to get the particulates out no matter what but I'm not a mechanic.
Subaru Canada has the CVT fluid change as part of their recommended maintenance every 5 yrs or 100,000 KMs (60k miles). Is this interval too long?
Be safe and do it every 30m
I been watched your videos, and I have a question, I have a 2016 forester with not x mode , can be installed a transmission oil cooler or not ? Thanks .
Seeking Help with 2009 Subaru Tribeca Transmission Issue
After changing the transmission fluid, my 2009 Subaru Tribeca's gears refuse to shift. My mechanics have already run diagnostic software, but unfortunately, the problem persists.
Could you please suggest potential next steps or troubleshooting measures to resolve this issue?
In December 2018 we bought a 2019 Foerster. Shortly after we got the email from Subaru about the extended warranty, don't change the fluid until after 100000 miles. Will it cause damage if I change it now at 127000, like an old style auto trans?
where would i be able to buy the cylinders inside my valve body 2011 subaru legacy. i could’ve sworn i heard you mention something about the cylinders
I recently brought a 2017 levorg 2.0 gt-s. It has 95,000 klm on the clock. At 88k it had the trans removed and the fluid pump replaced due to a leak.
What's the chances they had to flush and replace the fluid or would it just have been topped up ?
TR690 cvt
Sounds to me like you got new fluid. Check the bill, they surely charged you for it.
@@mockingbirdwishmeluck6403 I recently brought it. The cvt oil pump was done 7,000klm ago. The paperwork I have just says the pump was leaking and cvt was removed and sent to a local transmission shop for pump replacement under warranty
Which 'Think Car' scan tool were you using please? Thank you for all your great instructional videos!!
689BT. He says it in the video
Mr. Subaru, would running AMSOIL CVT oil be a good alternative ? My buddy is a dealer and I can get it at cost. What are your thoughts on this oil vs Subaru CVT oil ?
No. I’d stay the factory Idemitsu fluid.
Idemitsu SB2 OK or only Subaru CVTF-II?
@@MrSubaru1387 Here Europe (Scandinavia) Subaru dealers/service use Midland cvt oil.
@@litchips same thing
@@litchipsit’s the same fluid! The Idemitsu is cheaper though!
Have any videos working on a 94 Subaru Legacy? I have a Leaky Gas Tank & Lines I need to replace so anything in that ballpark would help if you have any videos like that, thanks
No slip on my '17( edit), 2.5i Forester. 195000 miles.
Fluid drain interval is every 30 K( since new), same interval on both diffs.
No scan tool but still runs same rpm (2000) at 70mph as when I drove it off the lot.
Do you burn any oil
@@gary_beniford about a pint during my 5000 mi OCI.
I kep it topped up during that time
Never any check engine lights.
Have always done my own oil changes using full syn AMsoil, 5000 mi. OCI, and recently Kirkland( costco full syn).
@@williamevans6522I've began using Costco oil as well
Thanks for your information, I really like Subaru and I want to buy a new Forester or Ascent, do you think it is advisable???
@@lazaroyumar3092 Buy a used , low- mile '17, non- turbo.This was the last year of port injection.
'18 ,and newer have DI motors that require periodic , expensive cleaning of the intake valves.
So then you recommend changing cvt fluid every 36k miles??? Thought in US, not suppose to change until after 100k ??
Our 24 forester it’s at only 10k miles and I asked the maintenance department on our last oil change and they said they recommend the first cvt service at 100k miles.
@@powertools2375 they'll say that bc like what MrSubaru said, in US that's the company line to keep repair/maintenance costs down. But in Japan & Canada, they suggest like 35-50k.
Can you make a video about how to achieve a 200k+ mile lifespan from a Subaru? How often should I change the oil? What should I replace at 100k miles? How can I avoid costly repairs for Subarus in particular?
Change the oil every 3k miles keep it checked frequently. CVT fluid every 15k-30k miles do your diffs at the same time. Coolant every 50-75k miles depending on the type of coolant and which engine you have
Thanks for the video, i have a subaru xv 2022 (eboxer EU version) with the Th58 cvt . Looking for what cvt fluid to use in this gearbox i get conflicting information from different sources including dealers. I would appreciate if you can provide some insight into this :). Any ideea what subaru cvf fluid does this gearbox require or where i can find some new resources about this topic ?
Soooo... what does "not cheap" mean in this context, roughly?
thousands?
Dealer quoted $8.5K
@@marttho53 hot damn
What are your thought's on using idemitsu sb2 in place of subaru cvt 3 oil?
The Subaru CVT fluid is made by Idemitsu, it’s even printed on the bottle of Subarus CVT fluid!
How much is a new cvt transmission
You may have forgotten to link the scan tool in the description 😅😅
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I have a 2013 outback, when the transmission is still cold even if I drive slowly the engine is at 2000 RPM. The revs don't drop. What could it be?
I have the same slippage but it's weird because when the car is running for over 20-30 min it stop slipping maybe fluid is warm or circulator with the grit also it slip at speeds 46-55 mph
How often to change the CVT fluid?
He tells you in the video.
I've tried using the workshop procedure to bed the chain but it was not a success
Hello Just wanted to know if a EJ16 1996 subaru impreza manual transmission can be bolded or connected to a ej20 2003 subaru forester xt engine
For the xt owners, staying in sport sharp mode and smoking people off the line can lead to this as well........
I swapped out old cvt on my 2016 legacy and installed 2019 outback cvt on it(is not even been a year since that), ive been driving and rn it shakes while accelerating, and shakes while stopping, i took it in the repair shop and they said that it wasnt the tranny, it is an inner axle problem but im not sure. can u recommend anything?
It also got misfire, ive diagnosed it and computer said that air to fuel ratio is messed up. i also hear it on the passengers side that air is getting sucked inside manifold, can that cause problem?
Logic is telling me you would never see slippage on the secondary pulley. The primary is the input/engine side so that one would slip under load. If the driven/secondary pulley is slipping, it would still show up as a slip on the primary, not?
Looking at a 14 forester that a dealer replaced the shortblock (failed oil consumption test) and Valve body. They want 8K with 110K. Seems like all the major issues would be addressed.
Anyone know what makes a poping sound in the cvt, I replaced wheel bearings, axles and sway bar links. Sounds just like a bad cv pop sound but when driving straight
I solved the CVT chain slip issue by buying my Crosstrek with a 6-speed transmission.
We've got a '14 Forester with the 2.5l and about 125k on the clock, about 70% highway. Up to now I've followed Subaru's schedule and NOT changed the fluid. I've seen all sorts of arguments both ways and it's a confusing mess. Your voice i trust and realize i should have the service done. Question is, will a fluid change negatively affect a transmission with that many miles? It's operated flawlessly up to now.
Yikes I never changed the fluid in my CVT and it’s at 230,000 miles. I once asked my dealership about changing the fluid but they said it was a sealed and isn’t to be serviced.
The fact Subaru puts lifetime fluid in the manual should be almost criminal
That and their 'extended' warranty (10y/100,000mi) that would be void if you change the fluid.
@@hotpuppy1 there is no extended warranty except for certain model years. Subaru of Japan recommends fluid change intervals.
Thank the EPA. They rate a vehicle's carbon footprint based on fuel consumption and service intervals. If you extend the service interval the carbon footprint goes down
@@hotpuppy1what if the Subaru dealer does cvt drain and fill would that void the transmission warranty?
On a side not. How does one test the signal to a EJ injector. New Injector But on scan tool shutting Injector 4 down has no effect on rpm. (misfire cly4 2007 Foresterx)
Looking for pulse at the injector? Noid light easiest test.
@@MrSubaru1387 don't have them. But if there is no pulse I would have to go further. Can I skip the light and test the output with a meter. And if so what should I be looking for.
@@steveksi O Reilly has a noid light rental kit for free
I don’t need to watch the video to say, I have personally obliterated a 2019 civic cvt. I drove it like a moron as you would a 6 step automatic. And the rough driving killed the cvt. After that little “warranty” coverage repair at the dealer, I religiously maintained the new cvt with oil changes and even filters that they don’t tell you about and is easy to miss.
Does that mean you cant track a WRX thats 100k on the clock?
Do you have anything on Rack And Pinions? Apparently for the 2008 Impreza there are different versions, and no one but Subaru sells the second version? Spoke to a remanufacturer (BBB Industry) and they aren't even aware there are different versions for the same car. Are you aware of this yourself? Or are you also unaware?
Did not see the scan tool.
Just like to mention so not changing cvt fluid is not owner neglect is what subaru recommends in garage,dealership, owners manual mainly because they generates income from new sales after they products failed by design build in😕 thats tell a lot about subaru aclaimed " quality " products, design 😕
My dealership recommends around 30k mile CVT service and I did
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to never own a car with CVT.
How many miles when you need to change the cvt oil?
He tells you in the video.
Yeh I am done with Subaru unless they will come out with different transmission in the future. Dealer doesn’t even want to drain and fill cvt fluid in my city.
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So, chain slip means trade her in. Got it.