I agree, although I'd like it with the original cast who may be too old to continue from where they left off at the end of s2 now. Sarah Connor Chronicles was my favourite after T1 and T2.
She was also in a show called Alphas but by that point, I just remember seeing that she was in the show so it must getting canceled soon, and sure enough, cliffhanger and cancelled.
Because "Genysis" and "Dark Fate" sucked consecutive ass. They need to simply go back to the "Salvation" timeline, adapt JMS' comic "The Final Battle", and make that guaranteed $1 Billion already.
They should've focus in some story line following the events of Salvation, exploring the relationship between John and Kyle and attaching all the loose links in order for some final salvation movie to be directly connected to how T1 began. TSalvation is so underrated and so full if little details. 03:12 TDarkFate flopped BECAUSE of two reasons: they killed John Connor, making all previous deaths in vane. And they told us the same story AGAIN for the fourth time
Here’s an idea. Just make the plot where John Connor sends Kyle Reese through time, bringing the story full fucking circle ⭕️ already. No more complications, twists, turns to postpone the inevitable.
Even the game terminator resistance, that didn't have the great graphics that other games have, manage to give a good set up the future war o even a movie to adapt, respecting the OG
The only reason that the Terminator is a series of movies is because they overlook the fact that in the first Terminator movie Reese said that war with the machines was one possible future
a while ago my bf and I were talking about terminator and he was telling me that I guess in the comic books? the machines and humanity actually had a truce and became allies, he was like "I would really want to see that part" @@zacharyberridge7239
T2, Sarah Conner Chronicles, T1 and finally T3 which is better than people give it credit for. What I would like to see is what happens directly after Rise of The Machines when they emerge fron that fallout shelter. How exactly did John Connor become the legend?
As a normal regular fan of the franchise, I don't mind seeing the movies that broke the timeline but if THE robot not wanting to return, then the franchise should die with him. You could still make content out of it, but only if you bring something new to the table
People shouldn't blame TIM MILLER for the failure of DARK FATE He was the director, not the writer Killing John Connor was James Cameron's idea Miller deserves another chance because he still got a lot to offer He not only gave us DEADPOOL, but also SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, directed by his friend, Jeff Fowler Also, have anyone seen LOVE, DEATH and ROBOTS?
I liked Dark Fate. Felt it was the best of the attempts. Only issue with it was, it didn’t hold the viewers hand with its rules to set the story, and left it vague, possibly to explore in its sequels. When you analyze the film deeper, you can see what they were going for. That & it didn’t help it was in an time where negativity was at an all time high with hateful agendas. Still, if anyone can make sense of a continuation or into a new world for the franchise, Cameron I believe he can make a good story to follow.
I have it!!! The real Sarah Conner was killed--because if no one was sent back, how was John born at all? Kyle found another Sarah Conner, who then became the new savior. And birth a new 'John Conner.'
Honestly, T1, T2 extended Cut are really a Good end. T3, Salvation Follow a Dark What IF, So Does Genisis and Dark Fate. I love them all Dark or Light.
Terminator Salvation's original ending had an interesting spin where John Connor "dies" and gets his conscience switched with Marcus. However the director or producers went to other way which IMO was a mistake. I will say the comic book one where Skynet makes peace with the Resistance was actually more believable and probably where the movies should have gone. Not this reboot Genesis crap or alternate timelines (Dark Fate). But since we are talking sequels, I will say IMO that T2 was the conclusion to the Terminator story. Some movies do not need a sequel unless it is really well written.
They should produce the long awaited Terminator: Future War with the events leading up to the first movie similar to what was done with Star Wars: Rogue One.
After numerous failures after T2, maybe Hollywood just gave up capturing that inkling of magic left that made the first two Terminator movies special 👍
🙏 I would love just one last 'Terminator' flick with Arnold Schwarzenegger! P.S. 💡 If not James Cameron, please consider LEN WISEMAN to direct, Hollywood gods!
They should continue the "Sarah Conner Chronicles" story-line. The actors are still young enough to reprise their roles, perhaps with some digital de-aging for Summer Glau's character.
I wanted to add that the digital de-aging comment was because her character is an android and therefor wouldn't age. It has absolutely nothing to do with Summer Glau's appearance as she is still quite lovely.
I liked all of them but whatever each to their own. T2 will always be the best no matter what though. I don't see how the franchise can continue without Arnie though he literally is the terminator. The worst was salvation in my opinion because he wasn't really in it. Still I hope they make more as it's a great concept and very close to reality as we experience it now...
Didn't care for Dark Fate they keep changing the Story line when Linda , John , and Kyle Reese are the Main Part And leaders of the Resistance and this girl Danny she is just a No Body trying to Be another Sarah Connor we all know the Connor family name is the leader of the Resistance how can anybody else Be unless their Married and have kids
How to fix the terminator franchise: 1. Go back to the horror elements of T1. 2. Stop making every sequel like T2. 3. Do it on a smaller budget. 4. Dont cast arnold again. 5. Keep it simple.
If they include Dr Smith and the robot from Lost In Space, I might give up my endeavour to fix the problem with ash trays on motorcycles, and go and watch this fillum.
The resistance in the future must be dumb as bricks if every T800 looks like the same guy and can infiltrate any resistance hide away. No wonder why they need dogs
As much as I want to………I won’t - so many dropped balls since 1 and 2 - they lost me at 3 when Sarah and team managed to get into her fathers base minus any checks ?
My Vision would be is to Tie to the The Earlier Movies.... still Focus on the War between Humans and the Machines but also Focus on John Connor taking Kyle Reese back to 1984 and then John find a T-800 but after having a Fight with that T-800 that one would be Reprogrammed to work with the Resistance but would go back to 1995 to Protect Young John Connor when John Finds out that a T-1000 is going back to 1995 and since Arnold doesn't want to be in the Movies? The T-800 can just be Endoskeleton until it goes into the Portal to go back to 1995
Fans don't want to see an A.I. driven Terminator movie, sounds way too much like Terminator Genesis. I feel like they're forgetting that skynet is A.I., it's been there since the very beginning. The reason fans weren't responding to these last couple movies is because they keep killing off John Connor. We were expecting the entire story to revolve around him as an adult. In one movie they kill him as an adult and the other one they go back and kill him as a child, these were both horrible ideas that never should have made it to the big screen. Just don't retcon the first three movies, don't kill off any major characters and make a post Judgement Day movie.
Personally, I'd like for James Cameron to STEP AWAY FROM WRITING/DIRECTING anymore 'Terminator'/A.I. apocalypse stories. The guy has pretty much "hit-it-out-of-the-park"--concerning HOW many of his sci-fi films have accurately portrayed certain aspects of near-future/future world prerogatives & idiosyncracies. We are >THIS Close!< to transformative A.I.s dominating most aspects of life globally; I don't want his fertile, prophetic brain releasing more bad, "I-Told-You-So!"-ideas. Into a world that has used Orwell's "1984" as a 'How-To' guide.
Please have mercy, no more!!!! Dark fate may be one of the worst movies ever made. Let it die and be forgotten with other cinematic mistakes that have ruined their core material.
Killing John Connor made whatever Sarah did pointless....the t2 Sarah would have been completely broken if John died she wouldn't simply adopt a daughter and move on
hate me or not but i enjoy all things terminators even dark fate i enjoyed it... why does everyone have to fight like "its a bad movie it must die" it was made YOU dont have to like it some of us liked the last movies.
Terminator 2 has been my favorite movie for 30 years, everything from 3 on sucks, especially dark fate and genysis. Just leave it alone franchise has been beaten to death
This vodeo is 8:56 minutes long, It's obviously simple why we haven't seen terminator 7. Hasn't been made yet!! Video is just looking for attention, views, comments, likes & shares....
The Terminator and T2 will always be classics, two of the best films ever made. Salvation was really good. Genisys could've been great had they not ruined the film with giving away the John Connor twist in the trailers. TSCC was great but could've benefited from being shorter. i.e 10ep seasons to save on filler. Woke fate and T3 garbage
They need some fresh blood there. I wouldnt use any of logacy actors or even characthers. Probably to be something in that world but totally new. Perhaps some small and cheap story kind of movie. Origin of Skynet maybe could be intressting to tackl in.
There is a way to do a terminator sequel without Schwarzenegger, do a sequel to genisys. That t 800 got upgraded with the mimetic polyalloy. So it's appearance could always be altered. Despite what the video said genisys actually ranks as third in terms if gross revenue among the terminator movies. It could've gotten a sequel that could've fixed the problems some haters had with genisys. Because of all the unfair vitriol, we wound up with dark fate. This is what happens when you fans that so married to the original 2 movies bitch and whine when genisys producers tried to do something new while still maintaining some commonality with rest of the franchise I personally think it was a big improvement to recast sarah and Kyle. Linda Hamilton and Michael biehn have as much acting range as a telephone pole. Clarke and Courtney actually made their roles more lively. Although their performances weren't perfect Hamilton and biehn start to get annoying over time. This is one reason why I find genisys way more watchable than any of the movies. A lot of people criticize the time travel which is a total bs criticism. Time travel is key component of this franchise after all. If more than one trip is shown in a movie then don't be surprised. Genisys wasn't even that hard to follow which leads me to conclude that atleast certain members of the audience didn't pay proper attention to this movie, and they blame a less than optimal experience on the film instead of themselves.
Terminator 1 and 2 were the best, Terminator Salvation was okay, but the rest were miserable failures, either being sloppy or outright giving a double flip off in our face.
Which "Terminator" movie is your favorite?
Terminator 2
1
Terminator 2 was awesome😁
Two!
'T2' is my fave but I think 'T3' is SO underrated!
Forget more movies, I’d like to see the TV series (Sara Conner chronicles) continued. It was really good.
I agree, although I'd like it with the original cast who may be too old to continue from where they left off at the end of s2 now. Sarah Connor Chronicles was my favourite after T1 and T2.
Poor Summer Glau has a history of being in really good sci Fi shows that get cancelled. She was also in Firefly
She was also in a show called Alphas but by that point, I just remember seeing that she was in the show so it must getting canceled soon, and sure enough, cliffhanger and cancelled.
Yes it was. Really good
Ir was good.
Because "Genysis" and "Dark Fate" sucked consecutive ass.
They need to simply go back to the "Salvation" timeline, adapt JMS' comic "The Final Battle", and make that guaranteed $1 Billion already.
Except that Salvation sucked too. Without the time travel assassin element it's just another future apocalypse war movie
They should've focus in some story line following the events of Salvation, exploring the relationship between John and Kyle and attaching all the loose links in order for some final salvation movie to be directly connected to how T1 began. TSalvation is so underrated and so full if little details.
03:12 TDarkFate flopped BECAUSE of two reasons: they killed John Connor, making all previous deaths in vane. And they told us the same story AGAIN for the fourth time
Here’s an idea. Just make the plot where John Connor sends Kyle Reese through time, bringing the story full fucking circle ⭕️ already. No more complications, twists, turns to postpone the inevitable.
Even the game terminator resistance, that didn't have the great graphics that other games have, manage to give a good set up the future war o even a movie to adapt, respecting the OG
Because we know it’s gonna be another flop
Never know, maybe better than dark fate.
After seeing The Creator , I'll make my own T7 focusing on the future war.
The only reason that the Terminator is a series of movies is because they overlook the fact that in the first Terminator movie Reese said that war with the machines was one possible future
And they literally stopped it in T2, yet... They seem determined to make this war inevitable, and I do not understand why.
@@zacharyberridge7239... 💲💲💲
a while ago my bf and I were talking about terminator and he was telling me that I guess in the comic books? the machines and humanity actually had a truce and became allies, he was like "I would really want to see that part" @@zacharyberridge7239
T2, Sarah Conner Chronicles, T1 and finally T3 which is better than people give it credit for. What I would like to see is what happens directly after Rise of The Machines when they emerge fron that fallout shelter. How exactly did John Connor become the legend?
As a normal regular fan of the franchise, I don't mind seeing the movies that broke the timeline but if THE robot not wanting to return, then the franchise should die with him. You could still make content out of it, but only if you bring something new to the table
Honestly the hardest part of dark fate was swallowing whatever nonsense they did in the beginning.
When it came to action it was spot on.
People shouldn't blame TIM MILLER for the failure of DARK FATE
He was the director, not the writer
Killing John Connor was James Cameron's idea
Miller deserves another chance because he still got a lot to offer
He not only gave us DEADPOOL, but also SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, directed by his friend, Jeff Fowler
Also, have anyone seen LOVE, DEATH and ROBOTS?
I liked Dark Fate. Felt it was the best of the attempts. Only issue with it was, it didn’t hold the viewers hand with its rules to set the story, and left it vague, possibly to explore in its sequels. When you analyze the film deeper, you can see what they were going for. That & it didn’t help it was in an time where negativity was at an all time high with hateful agendas.
Still, if anyone can make sense of a continuation or into a new world for the franchise, Cameron I believe he can make a good story to follow.
We haven't seen Terminator 7 because the last two movies were shitshows, and Arnold Schwarzenegger said he's done playing the character.
He should have said that 20 years ago 😒
@@PlumbPitiful he should've be done with the franchise after T3 rise of the machines.
@@salliewagenblatt5188 Yes, I know. That was 20 years ago (2003).🙂
Genisys was great!
@@ColdNumbzThePainGreat at sucking.
You know there's a books Terminator from 1988 & in the books the time line jumps around with different outcomes to the future and past
The Real Reason We Haven't Seen Terminator 7. Um, because this ain't a soap-opera ?
Only RLM can help me make sense of this franchise at this point.
They should continue the "Salvation" timeline. All those reboots attempts failed miserably.
I have it!!!
The real Sarah Conner was killed--because if no one was sent back, how was John born at all?
Kyle found another Sarah Conner, who then became the new savior.
And birth a new 'John Conner.'
Honestly, T1, T2 extended Cut are really a Good end. T3, Salvation Follow a Dark What IF, So Does Genisis and Dark Fate. I love them all Dark or Light.
Arnold & Linda have confirmed they will not be returning. It'd basically be a new franchise.
Because we still haven’t recovered from terminator six
Terminator Salvation's original ending had an interesting spin where John Connor "dies" and gets his conscience switched with Marcus. However the director or producers went to other way which IMO was a mistake. I will say the comic book one where Skynet makes peace with the Resistance was actually more believable and probably where the movies should have gone. Not this reboot Genesis crap or alternate timelines (Dark Fate).
But since we are talking sequels, I will say IMO that T2 was the conclusion to the Terminator story. Some movies do not need a sequel unless it is really well written.
Because the makers dont know what to do now they messed up the franchise
Terminating John Connor was a bad idea by Cameron.
Cameron made some nice movies way back, but like Lucas / Spielberg, it didn't last.
What they need to do is revitalize a franchise they people excited through video games. We need a good Terminator game.
Oh God, let it never happen . Let it rest for a decade or so .Please ,we beg of you.
Any new Terminator sequels Need to stay Terminated after T2 the other movies failed to really impress anyone like the first 2
whats the name of the background song in this video of yours?
They should produce the long awaited Terminator: Future War with the events leading up to the first movie similar to what was done with Star Wars: Rogue One.
We are still waiting for real terminator 3
The real reason? Well... the phrase "beating a dead horse" comes to mind.
After numerous failures after T2, maybe Hollywood just gave up capturing that inkling of magic left that made the first two Terminator movies special 👍
It just doesn't make since any more going back in time to change the future is way more complicated than people think
I’ve been wondering about it
Let's be real at this point Terminator should just be rebooted
Yes, yes the cast was a problem. John Connor replaced by a 5’ teen with all the presence of a child? Please.
They should have quit after #2.
🙏 I would love just one last 'Terminator' flick with Arnold Schwarzenegger!
P.S. 💡 If not James Cameron, please consider LEN WISEMAN to direct, Hollywood gods!
They should continue the "Sarah Conner Chronicles" story-line. The actors are still young enough to reprise their roles, perhaps with some digital de-aging for Summer Glau's character.
I wanted to add that the digital de-aging comment was because her character is an android and therefor wouldn't age. It has absolutely nothing to do with Summer Glau's appearance as she is still quite lovely.
Let this franchise rest
I liked all of them but whatever each to their own. T2 will always be the best no matter what though. I don't see how the franchise can continue without Arnie though he literally is the terminator. The worst was salvation in my opinion because he wasn't really in it. Still I hope they make more as it's a great concept and very close to reality as we experience it now...
We don’t need a terminator 7 because the real thing is coming soon enough
Terminator 7paradox would be a good name though
Didn't care for Dark Fate they keep changing the Story line when Linda , John , and Kyle Reese are the Main Part And leaders of the Resistance and this girl Danny she is just a No Body trying to Be another Sarah Connor we all know the Connor family name is the leader of the Resistance how can anybody else Be unless their Married and have kids
We want the Future War with John Connor.
I mean, I am one of the few who actually thought Terminator Genisys was decent...I didn't think "Dark Fate" was needed.
Arnold could come back as the human that was the OG T-800 was based from. Some scientists or engineer?
I actually enjoyed the last one , better than terminator 3 I thought
Terminator 2 Judgement Was the BEST 1
Think it should end with Dark fate. By them ignore the last one
How to fix the terminator franchise: 1. Go back to the horror elements of T1. 2. Stop making every sequel like T2. 3. Do it on a smaller budget. 4. Dont cast arnold again. 5. Keep it simple.
We don't need another sequel and don't need a reboot. Just leave the Terminator franchise alone! The first two films will ALWAYS be the successors!
Is it wrong that I loved Salvation and the TV show
We don't need more Terminator.
If they include Dr Smith and the robot from Lost In Space, I might give up my endeavour to fix the problem with ash trays on motorcycles, and go and watch this fillum.
Salvation is a great movie
I love all terminator movies
More
The resistance in the future must be dumb as bricks if every T800 looks like the same guy and can infiltrate any resistance hide away. No wonder why they need dogs
Short answer, 3-6 wasn't the business
As much as I want to………I won’t - so many dropped balls since 1 and 2 - they lost me at 3 when Sarah and team managed to get into her fathers base minus any checks
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What about Rambo? 🎉❤❤🎉
My Vision would be is to Tie to the The Earlier Movies.... still Focus on the War between Humans and the Machines but also Focus on John Connor taking Kyle Reese back to 1984 and then John find a T-800 but after having a Fight with that T-800 that one would be Reprogrammed to work with the Resistance but would go back to 1995 to Protect Young John Connor when John Finds out that a T-1000 is going back to 1995 and since Arnold doesn't want to be in the Movies? The T-800 can just be Endoskeleton until it goes into the Portal to go back to 1995
Fans don't want to see an A.I. driven Terminator movie, sounds way too much like Terminator Genesis. I feel like they're forgetting that skynet is A.I., it's been there since the very beginning. The reason fans weren't responding to these last couple movies is because they keep killing off John Connor. We were expecting the entire story to revolve around him as an adult. In one movie they kill him as an adult and the other one they go back and kill him as a child, these were both horrible ideas that never should have made it to the big screen. Just don't retcon the first three movies, don't kill off any major characters and make a post Judgement Day movie.
Personally, I'd like for James Cameron to STEP AWAY FROM WRITING/DIRECTING anymore 'Terminator'/A.I. apocalypse stories. The guy has pretty much "hit-it-out-of-the-park"--concerning HOW many of his sci-fi films have accurately portrayed certain aspects of near-future/future world prerogatives & idiosyncracies. We are >THIS Close!< to transformative A.I.s dominating most aspects of life globally; I don't want his fertile, prophetic brain releasing more bad, "I-Told-You-So!"-ideas. Into a world that has used Orwell's "1984" as a 'How-To' guide.
Apart from "Code 264, the saga" which is just terminator
Please have mercy, no more!!!! Dark fate may be one of the worst movies ever made. Let it die and be forgotten with other cinematic mistakes that have ruined their core material.
Forget the people make it from skynets view, movie about the machines
probably still in planning stage... Or they are making it.
They should have made the 3rd one shortly after the second left it to long
Very good idea let's kill John Connor and bring some random chick that we're supposed to care for lol
So, why?
Killing John Connor made whatever Sarah did pointless....the t2 Sarah would have been completely broken if John died she wouldn't simply adopt a daughter and move on
After how the last 3 have been does anyone really want one
hate me or not but i enjoy all things terminators even dark fate i enjoyed it... why does everyone have to fight like "its a bad movie it must die" it was made YOU dont have to like it some of us liked the last movies.
Because we don't need another sequel
no more terminator movies
You want to really reignite the franchise? Let Christopher Nolan write the next film.
Terminator 2 has been my favorite movie for 30 years, everything from 3 on sucks, especially dark fate and genysis. Just leave it alone franchise has been beaten to death
This vodeo is 8:56 minutes long, It's obviously simple why we haven't seen terminator 7. Hasn't been made yet!! Video is just looking for attention, views, comments, likes & shares....
@Luke5100 Doesn't matter, the video like this are useless... It's obviously the film hasn't been made...
What happened to John Connor wife
No future here
The Terminator and T2 will always be classics, two of the best films ever made. Salvation was really good. Genisys could've been great had they not ruined the film with giving away the John Connor twist in the trailers. TSCC was great but could've benefited from being shorter. i.e 10ep seasons to save on filler. Woke fate and T3 garbage
You mean not yet anyway
I urge anyone thinking about making Terminator 7 not to do it. Please stop. It's over, let it die.
They just need to stop
They need some fresh blood there. I wouldnt use any of logacy actors or even characthers. Probably to be something in that world but totally new. Perhaps some small and cheap story kind of movie. Origin of Skynet maybe could be intressting to tackl in.
There is a way to do a terminator sequel without Schwarzenegger, do a sequel to genisys. That t 800 got upgraded with the mimetic polyalloy. So it's appearance could always be altered.
Despite what the video said genisys actually ranks as third in terms if gross revenue among the terminator movies. It could've gotten a sequel that could've fixed the problems some haters had with genisys. Because of all the unfair vitriol, we wound up with dark fate. This is what happens when you fans that so married to the original 2 movies bitch and whine when genisys producers tried to do something new while still maintaining some commonality with rest of the franchise
I personally think it was a big improvement to recast sarah and Kyle. Linda Hamilton and Michael biehn have as much acting range as a telephone pole. Clarke and Courtney actually made their roles more lively. Although their performances weren't perfect Hamilton and biehn start to get annoying over time. This is one reason why I find genisys way more watchable than any of the movies.
A lot of people criticize the time travel which is a total bs criticism. Time travel is key component of this franchise after all. If more than one trip is shown in a movie then don't be surprised. Genisys wasn't even that hard to follow which leads me to conclude that atleast certain members of the audience didn't pay proper attention to this movie, and they blame a less than optimal experience on the film instead of themselves.
Leave legendary movies alone 😑.
If you didn't like Dark Fate, you're not a fan, and your opinion doesn't count.
Zero content. Well done
They refuse to give us future war. Salvation was the last good movie
Tooth
Because the last 5 sucked!!!
Start from t2 n remake t3 ,we wana c nukes ,how skynets starts taking over, where people go n how darkness comes
They can’t make a good movie anyone, that’s it.
Terminator 1 and 2 were the best, Terminator Salvation was okay, but the rest were miserable failures, either being sloppy or outright giving a double flip off in our face.
Almost seems like an ironic twist of fate Skynet Ainet Elon musk
please stop making sequels, same crap as fast and furious
Genyses is the best and my fav. dark fate sucked ass!