Same Nebula from the CITY vs. DARK SKY
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- How much of a difference do dark skies make for astrophotography?
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Light pollution is a problem that just isn’t being taken as seriously as it should be.
Especially now with those blueish-white LED street lamps
I hope they switch those to orange/yellow LEDs in the future
@@Augusto9588 exactly, and people feeling like its a good idea to have LED lights on the exterior of their houses, when its mostly blinding and the more people that do it the harder it is to capture good shots
@@6500xt Thats not the underlying problem. The actual problem is that these people dont care or, even worse yet, dont KNOW that this hobby exists. Knowing people tho, even if they did know or care, theyd give a flying fu...
True. I went to bortle 2 area and point my telescope at pladies and it looked so amazing just from eyes and when i see pladies from bortle scale 8 then I was disappointed to bearly some star of it
@@anuranjan0101 yes but it also affects the way some animals navigate (they use stars) and it also effects people’s sleep. Also I’m not saying to remove all lights, that would just be dangerous. The problem is most artificial lights aren’t even necessary
I'm a Bortle 9, but I'm planning to go to a three with a little over an hour trip to the north. I've seen a two once when we traveled across the Salt Flats. Truly stunning
Same
Thanks for doing this, Trever. I live in a Bortle 4 area in Iowa and I love the beautiful views of the Milky Way from my backyard and your video makes me appreciate my dark skies even more. I could wish for more clear nights to take advantage of the dark skies but life is full of challenges, eh? and honestly, overcoming the challenges make the results sweeter. Clear Skies!
I really wish that our governments would have something like a designated dark sky night where all city lights are shut off for the span of a few hours or so just to give astrophotographers and astronomers can be under some dark skies for a while
Did you hear about Los Angeles when the electricity went out? (11 was swamped with calls from people freaking out about the sky. Didn't know it was the Milky Way.
@@MountainFisher Really showed the level of education at that time. Astronomy should be taught in school from grade 1. This way more people would care, would show more interest in the most precious thing we have, and could work against light pollution together.
@@Sharpless2Basic astronomy is taught, still people don't want to learn.
@@MountainFisher same when new York had that big blackout people were calling 911 to ask about all the bright lights in the sky.
You know it would just end up being cloudy lol
This is excellent. I always wanted to see an astrophotographer do this on UA-cam--compare image quality at differing Bortle levels only. Thanks so much for this!
Thank you for making this video. Until now i never saw a video that compared light pollution vs dark sky so easily!
amazing video, explanation as always KEEP UP THE POSITIVITY!
Hi Trevor, another great video! It was nice meeting you down at the Winter Star Party. I think you've got everyone thinking about a trip to a dark sky site. It can be a blast or a disaster. A video on planning and preparing for such a trip would be very helpful.
The photo in your name is my profile picture 😂
Very important video Trevor! thank you!
Awesome video!!
Great comparison Trevor! Drove 2hrs to my first Bortle 1 site at Christmas and was blown away with the difference both visually and with the images taken.
Cheers Simon
Very nice, Ashley!
I am extremely fortunate as I live south of Moab Utah in a bortal 2 sky. Moab has been diligently working on their dark sky certification and we do have three dark sky locations that are listed as such. Arches National Park, Dead Horse point, and Canyon Lands National park are all within a thirty to forty minute drive. I am excited to see our small community take dark skies seriously. I have only recently got back into astro imaging after taking about ten years off. My how the tech has changed ! That is one of the reasons I have taken the hobby up again. Compared to where it was ten years ago, it almost feels like cheating with products like the ASIair and the like..... Great video, thumbs up... Cheers !
Great video!!
Small town Iowa, Untied States. Bortle 4 from my driveway. Great video!
I love seeing every video of you 😊❤
I live in about a bortle 8 in Dubai thank you so much for this video really great!
I live in a Bortle 5 and I’m going to a Bortle 2 state park next month. I’m excited!
Make sure you go for no-moon days.
I live in the suberbs of hawaii in bortle class 4. At about 3am when all the neighbors lights go out the milky way litarely looks like a whitish glow and even some darker details. since I have started astro photography I have appreciated the sky much more.
Still the most engaging AP channel, awesome! It's not only LP but also atmospheric turbulence with the horsehead low above the horizon at 50+ latitude. Let's shoot some galaxies 🎉
Bortle 8 in our backyard in Halifax, 3 or 4 at our stargazing park (Stargaze Nova Scotia) 30 minutes away near Peggy’s Cove. I really need to measure the sky brightness at Stargaze NS to get an objective measurement. The biggest advantage I’ve seen is no gradients from dark skies.
Great comparison Trevor!
Love your message! The first time I saw the night sky ,the Milky Way, I was nailed to the ground beyond belief. Seeing the firmament at night was the most beautiful thing I ever experienced.
I’ve been an astrophotographer for about 4 years, your videos are always a great help. Much appreciation! I moved to my off grid property 2 years ago on a small island in northern Michigan. We have Bortle 1 skies all year round, very lucky to be here. It’s right on the Canadian border, come with your travel kit!!
My favorite astrophotography channel.
Thank you Trevor! I’m in a bortle 5 area, and have only attempted Andromeda without any narrow band filters. I’m definitely going to try other targets after watching this video.
I drove through northeastern New Mexico yesterday which was Bortle 2, I was very excited about the proposition of such a sky but it was during the day. I would have loved to stop and spend the night there but we’re relocating from the Midwest to Arizona and we had bigger fish to fry (namely getting to our final destination). Hopefully I’ll find something similar once we hit AZ. We’ll be situated at the last subdivision before a mountain range…time will tell. Excellent video Trevor. Thank you.
Nice comparison Trevor and why I head up the road to B2 when shooting the milkyway with the SLR. I was shooting OSC with Antlia DB filter and was shocked at how much impact the full moon had as well.
Yes. I cherish my rural, bortle 2 sky at home and at the cottage and am just awe-struck at the bortle 1 sky I have up at a remote lodge in northern Manitoba where I work in the autumn. Makes a huge difference! However, I’m jealous of your lack of snow in the video! Lots of snow here in southeast Manitoba. Was -20oC this morning too. Looking forward to spring. Dr B from Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Trevor, Bortle 7 here and just use a UV IR cut filter for broadband targets. Try to maximise shooting when Moon is not up and collect lots of subs. Works well but I know it would take a fraction of the time if the sky was darker. Most people are so cut off from the night sky in a city they don’t care if they make the problem worse. Keep up the good work!
Excellent video I count myself lucky that I live in bortle 4 class skies I notice such a difference when I visit family who live in the city so much less to be seen when I look up where I live I can see Orion and the Pleiades with the naked eye
You’ve been going at this for almost 15 years, I don’t know what to say. I started not even 1 year ago, I don’t know how I’m gonna get even to a better level. If I’m being honest, I probably won’t
I live in a class 5 but a 30 min drive away im in a bordal 2, the joys of living in outback Australia
Amazing Dude, make ya wanna get on out and try it!
We snowbird at a Bortle 2/3 area in north western Florida; live in a Bortle 8 in SW Ohio. The difference is absolutely unbelievable! Great comparison!
Very cool
Simply awesome 🙏🙏🙏
My son's house is Bortle 4 at 5200 feet, 20 mins. Bortle 2 near White Sands Missile Range, 30 mins. Bortle one 90 mins and northern border of WSMR, watch out for cows called bulls.
Great video ❤ i live in bortle 3 but we have a lot of clouds in the Netherlands
Thank you for doing this. I am more impressed with what you did under a light polluted sky, even if it's not as good as the bortle 3 dark sky image. I feel encouraged to take shots in my driveway here in suburban Chicago. I did get a decent shot of the Orion nebula.
I have very fond memories of a sky full of the Milky Way and stars upon stars growing up in the Upstate NY area. Over the past few years have returned home for the final times and over 35+ years, you see maybe 1/4 of what was once present in the night sky. Nothing surpasses the personal calm and peace while sitting under a canvas of stars. I live in Washington DC now…and remember fondly my childhood days laying in the grass watching satellites pass until my parents yelled it was time to come inside.
Great comparison. I never realized that even with a stacking there would be that big of a difference. I'm also in a bortle 6 sky but here in New Zealand its not a far drive to a bortle 1 sky.
Hi Trevor, great comparison, what would be really interesting to see is the same set up/target using the light filter you mentioned??
I live as well at the edge of a town and the Bortle map list me at a 6 however the resent addition of a apartment complex just finished up about 5 months ago and their lights are huge and bright. I noticed in you time lapse how many stars were around Orion. I can basically see the main constellation itself and no longer see the smaller stars. I almost wonder if my house is in a Bortle 7 to 8 now. I do visual so I may be selling everything I bought last year. I kind of regret getting back into Astronomy just because of the light pollution here and getting to dark sky’s is over 1 1/2 hours away.
Hi Trevor !
still great video as always. You are really lucky with both Bortle 6 and 3. I live in Hanoi, the capital city of Vietnam. On February 12, 2024, according to the Lunar Calendar, it is Tet Holiday. I went outside and saw Betelgeuse and Rigel, I knew it was the constellation Orion. I quickly ran into the house, took out my tripod and Iphone XS Max and started taking photos. The result I got was that the sky in Hanoi was very bright (Bortle 7), the star Orion appeared faint, but still a wonderful experience for me.
I just wish that in Vietnam, people understand more about light pollution and hope that Vietnam has an IDSP
Best wishes to Trevor and all of you from Vietnam 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳.
Nice Trevor . Be interested in your processing techniques for an unfiltered highly light polluted area .
I am very fortunate to live in the smokey mnts Tennessee and we have bortle 2 and 3 skies.
that doesnt matter when it never stops from being cloudy or raining every night.
I'm so glad I live in small town
South-west
Love your videos and have helped me get a better understanding of things. I am going out to Utah in a few weeks and was thinking about getting an ASIAir or a model similar to use with my Canon 90D and my Star Adventure GTI that I just received. Do I gain anything by getting the ASIAir type device with my DSLR and do I need a Guide Scope to get the most out of things or is the GTI going to be good enough. This will be my first go at Deep Space so just trying to see what would work best for my DSLR and 135mm Lens.
Lucky to be in a Bortle 3 area of the UK. Just need it to stop raining now!
Same dude, i live in bortle 3 area but here is raining every day
It’s tough starting out as an astrophotographer living in Bortle 9 without any places with darker skies (Singapore)
Excellent video. How did you get from the raw 3 hour image to the final one? Just standard imaging software edits like exposure, saturation, highlights-mids-lows, etc?
I love your space photos so much ❤ ive been wanting to try astrophotography myself but all I have is a phone (we dont have enough money to afford a camera n stuff) i still like my photos tho 😊
Best astrophotographer 🤩
oh wow thanks for giving the lightpollutionmaps where i'm at is a Class 3
Great video! Would adding the Bortle 6 data to the Bortle 3 data make the stack worse or better?
I wish I had a Bortle 6 back yard. Mine is Bortle 9 according to my SQM-LE.
Bro I just want a playlist of all your outro songs. They are all bangers. 😂😂
Fantastic video. What's the biggest scope you'd put on your AM3; something like a 102 refractor?
To get anywhere near close, even then its not equal. I'd say multiply your exposure by 3 or better for doubling the Bortle.
Hi Trevor. Another great video thanks! I’m curious about your choice of a 294MC here please. I have a RedCat 51 and always believed that a smaller pixel size was better suited to the focal length (183MC?). Was there a particular reason for the 294? Cheers, Paul
I am very grateful for the bortle 4 sky at mine, but sometimes I forget how lucky I am until I see videos like this.
i'm a bortle 4 which i am happy about it. respect for you'r videos
Cool comparison. I could try the Bortle 9 version ;) Why no EAF btw?
ty, my first real images look beautiful under a super light polluted location, now im so exited to shoot under another sky!
Bortle 2 here in Eastern Ontario. I'm pretty sure we're actually Bortle 1, but whatever.
Hello Trevor, I was wondering why the amp glow from the 294c sensor wasn't visible on the 3min uncalibrated sub? Thanks and best wishes.
The comparison makes sense, but it is obvious that under a polluted sky you use a filter eventually. It would have been better dark sky against polluted sky with something like l-pro filter
Bortle 4 for me
Hey, AstroBackyard! what would be the best telescope? i have a budget of $600 and i am not really looking for one of those automatic smart telescopes, and i want a reflector can be a slt eq se anything in the celestron category
Hello, I bought the Apertura AD8 Dobsonian 8" telescope that you recommended in your beginner telescope video. I also recently bought a DSLR camera as well. I tried buying one of the connectors to put my DSLR through the eyepiece, but when I did, it would not focus, I would adjust the focus knob all the way in both directions, but it wouldn’t focus enough to see anything. I was contacting you to see if you can send me the name and possibly a link to the one you use to connect your DSLR to your Dobsonian. The camera is a Cannon Rebel T7 if that means anything. Thanks
I am in a Bortle 9 region, so for me, a Bortle 6 sky is considered dark sky.
Hello! What equatorial mount would you recommend for a beginner?
Hello.I have a question.I have 114 mm reflector levenhuk telescope.Ifi buy skywatcher lunar and solar filter(solar for 114 mm).Can they be uselful for my telescope?Is it possible?Pls reply❤
Spase is beautiful🌌.I can't take pictures like that😢.I want to learn how to take such beautiful photos🌌.
I have to drive like 2 hours to get to the nearest "dark sky preserve" and every time I've gone it's never been as good as some nights in my home town which is also 2 hours away even though all the dark sky maps show it should be worse in my home town.
I shot the Horsehead and Flame the last week of February with a Canon R7 and 200mm f/4.0 lens. Bortel Class 8, (Omaha, NW) ISO 800, 13 secs, 9.24 hour exposure total. Best I've ever gotten of it but sure doesn't compare with yours!
Mine at bortle 3, I'm living in the small village at the foot of the mountains, here we can see star very clearly but unfortunately i only have a 70/450 refractor Telescope using an photo copy lense. But in the other side my phone can capture milky way too. but recently the weather has been very unfavorable and it often rains when the Milky Way rises. And that's it, sorry for my bad english because English is not my main language.
Didn’t see the tripod listed in equipment. Curious as to what it is as I’m looking for my am3 currently
for me both imaging are fine ,im in SQM 16.84 9 BORTLE 9 or more
What would be interesting would be to see how much integration time is needed in a bottle 6 zone to match a night's worth of data in a bottle 2 zone
My backyard is Bortle 3. I consider myself lucky.
Bortle 4 here, about 2 hours to Bortle 2. Just need a better setup for actual astrophotography, thanks for the video idea I always wondered about this.
I wonder
Can you show some full frame shots and how much you crop to get there
I pretty much have to go the big dumb approach with my 131mm doublet and non tracking mount.
Hello Can i do astrophotography from BORTLE 9. ?
whats the song at the outro. its fire yo
Very interesting video. Both regarding the difference between light-polluted skies vs dark sites, but also showing how much über processing skills count.
I can see that my subs (Bortle 5) with just the same equipment on the same target is just as good as yours, but the final processed picture is nowhere near. 😵🤣
"no filter".. ok.. yes.. fair.. but how much is the difference with filters. Especially HSO filters.. I moved from a Bortle 4 to a Bortle 7.. I do miss it a little.. I can drive out to a Bortle 3 in about 2 hours, have yet to do that though.
I'd love to see the difference if you keep all the parameters the same but use a good light pollution filter for your shot. How much would the light pollution filter close the gap between the two skies?
I have a class 4.. southern hemisphere
Funny, how we have the same skies. I live at b6, my cabin is in b3.
Love your videos , the only problem is they're not frequent enough😂😂
i live in bortle 6, but thankfully I'm not too far from bortle 2 skies
Can mono help when shooting from light polluted area? I am planning to go mono to avoid risks buying OSC cameras. Will mono help?
Yeah, it will help if you use the gas filters (Ha, Hß, OIII, SII, NII)
i live in a bortle 4!
Columbus Ohio in parts is a bottle 8 other parts of Columbus are worse. I found a place in a small town 20 minutes from here that's a bottle 5 and its awesome out there. If I ever get to a bottle 2 or 3 someday that will be awesome.
Oh NOW you tell me??? After I move from Utah to Knoxville? I so miss having Bortle 1-2 just an hour away. Now I can only go from 7 to like 4 if I go all the way up into GSM Natl Park. 😮💨
Go to the road to Lake Chilhowie above Knoxville.
@@MountainFisher Lake Chilhowee is below though. That's the same distance as going to Cades Cove.
@@joeguetzloff4465 Take 336 out of Maryville up to the Foothills Parkway that ends at Chilhowie. I think you take happy valley rd to get to it and it has two overlooks that may be the same distance, but I guarantee it won't be crowded.
Im a bortle class 5, the Milky Way is faint but definitely visible in the summer time
I live in Spain and in 2h by car I have Bortle 2 skies. I feel kinda privileged😅