It's true. I met my ex wife and she had nothing. I provided a house, paid all the bills and went out to work everyday, she made zero effort and expected me to do everything and then she filed for divorce.
I had a friend who would rather watch his dog lanquish in pain more and more every day because nothing could be done for it and HE couldn't let go of it or the thought of his being without the dog... was the dog mentally ill or selfish?
@@petemavus2948 no but I could be put down for it's suffering. Humans don't have that choice. This is why you walk in to a bloody room, and see something you don't want to.
YES!! Finally, someone else gets it! Talk about "my body, my choice"... Everyone supports that idea UNTIL it becomes "inconvenient" for others. Suicide is only selfish when you're escaping/evading responsibility (i.e. paying for a crime).
I'll stand up and vouch for this comment. I've heard multiple people close to me talking about people that you could almost say were very much like me, in very very distasteful ways. When your brother is clearly anxious and not very social, shitting on "incel fags who can't even talk to girls" when I'm 5 yards away isn't exactly what I'd call "situational awareness", and doesn't make me any more willing to talk about why I struggle to open up (which I get pressed by the same family member to "open up more" and doesn't get the irony in them saying that). I'd rather suffer on my own then have other people actively increasing it.
You're exactly right in your comment, nobody wants to hear that a man is struggling...we are just supposed to push on and stay strong because in fact we are a man...but they obviously have never ever dealt with any kind of depression or true sadness! Smh thats why i just stay quiet until I work up the nerve to stop the pain!
When I heard a guy talk about his issues and suicidal thoughts I literally heard some people to do it I stayed with the guy my entire life from when we were kids cause he was the only person I had left to call a friend....he was there for me......only to find him dead the next day and honestly I cried.......only to be told to man up and stop crying like a baby and people laughed at me..........all because I cried fir my friend who was there for me when I needed him, but I wasn’t fucking there for him
Fuck society. Never conform to this broken fucked up society. If nobody is giving a fuck about me then how can they give a fuck about the world and society we live in ?
@@bobi966 I totally agree, but speaking as someone who has somehow managed to "successfully" buck the system and tell society and all its trends and conformity to go piss up a rope (meaning I never was much for joining the crowd beyond my own genuine desire/interest to pursue whatever is "popular" or "cool"), that does not necessarily make things much easier. It's definitely less worse, but not much better.
Nadia Blue yeah because we always say “I’m the man come on man ,I can do it “and then it destroys our personalities by the end . And another thing is lack of purposes in life.
I am 51. I have hated life, and have suffered depression, and oppression from the womb. If it wasnt for me not wanting my animals to be homeless, I would not be here typing this message.
Mid 40s divorced. Alone. Have two daughters. The loneliness and pain is horrible. I have Crohn’s disease and I’m in constant pain and have to work non stop. It’s like living in a prison.
First off, praise to God that you are providing for 2 daughters! That in itself raises your stature above many others! Please reach out to anyone you are able to, and hang in there, life gets better, even if you are suffering. It's counter-intuitive, but it's true! Everyday you experience hardship, you become stronger! May God bless you and your daughters, and may your daughters grow up to be your help.
Children are blessing. You are not alone with them. Unlike me i can never have children. You're not as bad as you think. Embrace your children. I never can and never will.
Two days ago that’s what I was feeling. But I told people that and it went away. So sometimes if you have a problem you gotta resolve it whether it’s a situation or emotional problem don’t drown in it alone. Pray. Talk. Chanel our emotions in a creative outlet, are brain is wired to articulate what we are feeling
But don’t kill yourself because God would be really sad if his child didn’t want to live to serve Him and that’s vital. I struggle with motivation I’m a lazy person and sometimes I just don’t wanna wake up I love to lie in bed all day and cry.
The world is a cruel dark place, your surrounded by people every day but rarely say more than a hello to each other. Technology has pushed us further apart rather than pulling us together. Filling people with drugs doesn’t fix the problem of depression. Men get depressed working dead end jobs, living the same day over and over again, that’s how I feel. I hate my life and increasingly wish I was gone, switched off and no longer here. I feel my life has no purpose and there’s nothing I can do about it. I wish I was dead.
I hear ya.....but remember it takes balls to kill yourself.... people think that those who do are cowards....I say they are brave....and only they know the ultimate......btw don't kill yourself....you made it this far.... keep going
I am 30 yo, completely alone, have never been in a relationship, nor experienced a sense of companionship with anyone. I don't have many friends or any good friends. I am considering a swift end. So I absolutely don't understand what causes a man who has a loving family - wife and kids - and a lot of friends, based on what you said, to commit suicide.
It's a complicated thing, dude. I'm like you, having very little experience with women and intimate connections. I lamented about it all through my 20s and 30s, but began to "detach" and "disconnect" during my 40s and now I'm 50 and really have very few fucks to give about being/living/dying alone without any female companionship or other relationships. I practically prefer it at this point cos it's just "neater" and simpler. As for people who "have it all" and still off themselves? Like I said, that shit is complicated. Clearly something was missing for them. Or the "picture perfect" life we think they have was not so perfect. They could have been drowning in debt about to lose everything, there could be abuse going on behind closed doors, addictions, all kinds of fucked up shit. Sometimes there's nothing insidious or wrong, but yet they still feel a void somehow - that's when it gets complicated. Everyone is different and have different values that measure to different degrees so their is no one fixed answer to explain it, but once someone is so inclined to start digging into that person's life, eventually the motive is revealed, or at least points to the general direction. Anytime you feel like someone who "has it all" threw it all away and had no reason, consider that maybe they indeed had something you do not : whatever problem only those who "have it all" can have. That makes people like you and me kind of lucky in our own way. I used to feel like a total loser because I could never find any women who were interested in me sexually (and maybe I am a loser - but so what)... then one day I realized that never getting sex means my odds of catching an STI/STD was reduced to virtually ZERO (at least via sexual contact), as was any attempt by any gold-digging tramp to claim I sired anyone's children and be on the hook for child support! ;-) Despite the deficit in carnal relations, as long as I still have two working hands and a comfortable reach, I can "take matters into my own hands" and do what I gotta do to satisfy my natural urges. Never let any macho swine or anyone else shame you for resorting to that. If you can afford it and feel an escort or prostitute will save you some dignity, then do that. No shame, no judgment. No shame in "self-servicing", either. If we were not meant to be able do that, our arms would be a hell of a lot shorter. And the plus of that is, I never have to worry about the pressures of performance, stamina, or frequency. Whether I take 30 seconds or 30 minutes to bust a nut, is completely at MY leisure. I may even decide not to finish (cos I get sleepy and just wanna zonk out). I am also not chained down to the "same old thing" time after time ; my variety is only limited to my own imagination in conjunction with my "spank bank" and/or ability to navigate the interwebs. My point is, just as there can be many unseen positives to our perceived negatives, there can also be a lot of unseen negatives to all the perceived positives of those we observe and think we wish we had their situation. Anyway, I dunno if you're still around to see this comment, given it was 2 years ago that you posted, but hopefully you are, and you're finding ways to cope and make the best of things. Cheers.
Count yourself lucky man. It's better to have never known how fucking soul crushing being married is. You do literally everything for someone else, you sacrifice everything that makes you who you are, and then she just decides she doesn't love you anymore and leaves you for another man just because she can. It makes you feel less than human. Like everything you've ever done is completely worthless. Like you don't matter at all.
Most of those men are narcissists. The ones with family, wife, mistresses, kids who kill themselves Those men want to kill themselves and so do I , but I can’t even get a text back or much less a date.
Harley happened to my sister. She gave her all 15 yrs new marriage he just upped and left, left her with nothing and broken, weather it’s a man woman does this it’s soul destroying. 😩
Well that man you think has "a wonderful family" is actually surrounded by an evaluation officer called wife, who is in it as long as he performs. Once he stops providing he will be quickly discarded. And you want to kill yourself because you don't have this in your life? "Women never love men, only what men can provide"
My children were once my heart. I would have died for all of them. Now--- I can't even get calls for my birthday, father's day, or how are you doing. Their mother planted in their heads that I was a horrible man. Although, I have never said any bad things about their mother, they decided to cut ties with me. My son had lunch with me for the first time- he is 27 years old. I am alone, my health is bad. As I type this, I am thinking about it... everyday I think about it. Mental it is difficult for me to keep a job. Praying ? is it enough. I tried seeking help and it was a disaster- The 800 number did not work for me.
Lil Doc Davis praying will do nothing. It's like talking on the phone, but no one is on the other side listening. You're children had done the worst deed to top you by cutting their ties. Hey, shit happens. I'd say move on, let them go, or be happy in knowing you will control you life until you end it. You should not fear death. I'm only waiting until I have a platform of financial security. Good luck!
You know, i see girls cry to one another and get support from each other, sometimes do like sleep over etc and its totally normal for them and i am honestly jealous of that. you cannot do it with men. They will think you are weak or not take you seriously. I've tried to open up about my issues to other guys but usually not many care at all. its just the truth. also, just the fact that you have to work entire life depresses the hell out of me.
But this isn’t “women’s” fault, it’s society’s fault. It’s the toxic masculinity DRIVING society towards these fucked up standards and the blind conformism surrounding it.
No its not the truth, i care about my friends its just that i feel extremly aquad if one came to me in tears ! i wouldnt knnow how to help, but im autistic, doesnt mean i dont care.
dan taylor I guess I really was under a rock. I had no idea, I did a bit research and found that these suicides don`t include deaths of under 14 who also commit suicide, which is even weirder.
DARK EMPEROR weirder? What exactly do they have to be happy about? Inheriting a planet with dwindling resources and a ruling elite class that aren't doing anything to address the issue? Almost as if no one gives a shit about them isn't it?
As men, we are never good enough. We're put under a microscope. We don't look a certain way, we don't have a certain job, we don't make enough money, whatever the case is. We do so much for our loved ones, but often we're told it's not enough. The pressures from work, from home, from daily life in in general compounds on us, it gets harder and harder to fight, to find a will to keep going. Men are viewed as disposable. Believe me, I feel all these, I have teetered on the edge of life and death numours times... About a month ago, I almost ended it all...
@@awkc63 I think I understand what you mean. Forgive me if I’m wrong but this world sadly does not treat you well cos you are good, nor put a lens of judgement on you for being bad - good and bad happens to all alike. God, and I hope you believe in Him, is the reason you are still alive and moving on regardless He actually loves you and really wants you to know Him. I don’t have all the answers but this one I know - He does.
I'm from the construction line of work, in the last 15 months i have lost 10 of my work friends out of a group of 30 men to suicide. My opinion, stress with the fact men don't open up about suicide hold our emtions inside is a cocktail to suicide. Last month i came into work finding a work friend hanging from a scaffolding by his neck, he took his life. No one talked about it we just carried on working they just removed his body from the scaffolding like a lump of meat and said ok boys carry on working. Men have become disposable.
How am I supposed to lived in a world that doesn't appreciate my manhood? Whenever I express anything honest, I am "masnsplaing " or "toxic masculinity "
I say "Fuck em" if they don't appreciate me, like me, look or talk to me. I've lived a blessed life, had tons of women, been to beautiful places, and done what I have wanted (as long as it doesn't involve much money)to. I've lived it and now my body feels it, I'm ready, the creamation is already paid for and I'm fine. Life is short enough so don't ever let anyone help decide your fate and bring you down. Your world can go from shit to heaven in a second, it's happened to me every time Ive decided to keep the finger off the trigger just one more day.
If you are explaining a subject, maybe how turbochargers works or how fast M-60 machine gone fire, to some female who does not know much about the subject, that would hardly be a use of the trendy idiotic concept “mansplaining”.
try not to think like that, that way of thinking is poisonous and something I imagine that has been forced onto you, take a bit of selfish pride and stick with your gut in situations like that, I'm not saying be a total dick or anything but your life is about you mate, don't let someone elses skewed way of thinking mess with you
As a person that struggles with suicidal ideation what I personally want is a hug. It sounds dumb because a hug is small. Hug your depressed loved one everyday and as often as possible
My favourite is when ppl say it’s best to “talk about it”. Thus does nothing; no change, nothing better, just basic responses, or having a therapist repeating the same thing your saying back to you.
Hearing this makes me even angry nowadays, they don't and can't understand nothing. Like you said talking doesn't change anything, doesn't make you less lonely or solve any problem. Same with their bullshit pharma drugs but yeah it's a multi billion dollar industry which want to make profit not solving problems and helping peoples. If they solve their problems (or really help them doing it) they lose a customer, so it's better for them if you keep talking and taking their drugs. Then they tell you the most important thing is to work again but of course so they can "monetize" you twice. One time as a pharma customer and one time as a tax slave.
I'm 20 years old, never had a girlfriend, was a loser in middle school and in high school. I work a lot and I just feel like my life has no sense of direction. The person I fell in love with doesn't have the same feelings for me and it's happened to me 6 times, I think I'm just gonna end it soon
My wife is divorcing me after 12 years of marriage, after alimony and child support here in the bay area what quality of life would i get in this gender biased court system. Id rather die than me ex wife milking me. If she does not respect our marriage vows hopefully shell have the decency not to milk me dry. Id rather die than having her use me as a second income.
+Jr Arevalo You'll need to speak with your wife and create some common ground. My video on worry may help your situation too, you can find it in my channel. I hope everything works out, stay positive and I'm an email away.
In the U.S., there are some cases where the kids live with their fathers and visit their moms. Most kids WANT to live with their dads in America because dads are easier to get along with. If the kids have a preference, perhaps they can speak out and let the judge know. I have met 4 men (I'm a woman) in the past year who all had custody of their kids. They paid no alimony as the kids lived with them full time. Just visited mom or rarely saw her because she left them. Brilliant ! And the kids were happier.
So sad, this is obviously a negative aspect of patriarchy that hurts men if men support feminism together we can get rid of patriarchy so we can truly be equal and happy
Fem Mystique Oh fuck off with that comment, you derailed this heartfelt and emotional comment with your feminist agenda why don't you show sympathy rather than trying to preach?
I'm in my late 30s, my relationship of 8 years ended in late August. It wasn't perfect, but she was my best friend and the love of my life. She said our differences were too great. My sister has a drug problem, my parents and I get along, but we aren't close. I have a good job, I own a home, I tick the surface level boxes, but the loneliness is crippling. Before my 8 year I have been deceived by many women in my life. I'm back out in the dating scene now, some hits, mostly misses, but whenever I miss it always goes back to the girl I loved for 8 years. I eat well, I'm very active and athletic still, but I cry in my car coming home from the gym at least once a week when I listen to music. I'm tired of the pain. I'm tired of the same routine without her. I'm tired of the loneliness. I just want my old life back. I've come to terms this won't happen, I need to move on with my life, but I just can't bring myself to keep doing it. People can call me a "bitch" or a "pussy" but I'm tired of trying to prove people wrong. They can call me those names and that's perfectly fine. I just want the pain to end.
ua-cam.com/video/gP7dkSMf7C8/v-deo.html Hang in there man, truth is it's easier for them to run cause they don't love as deeply as us, my so was gone in a few days w/a new guy pregnant too by the end of the week after we were planning to get married, I was ready to eat a bullet as well, ur not a pussy.
If you're still here, that's a terrible reason to kill yourself. Get over her, you can bet she's over you. All you'll do at this point is feed her vanity and ego at the thought you killed yourself over her. You sound like you have the potential for a good life. Get on with it.
Y'all better find eachother and do something about it together or go for it but please stop crying about it on the internet, this really won't help you, people only laugh and judge.
I considered suicide when my finances got bad and I realized that my sexual life was over. A life of quietly spending all my time alone because I couldn't afford to do anything and my sex appeal had gone was more than I could take. I had to learn to accept the loss of these things before the suicidal thoughts faded away.
I constantly feel extremely depressed , I find it very difficult to talk to anyone about it . I was brought up hard as a kid . I struggle everyday . I have a beautiful 2 year old son whom is my number 1 fan and my biggest love . And I need to stay strong , which is so hard . I always think about suicide. Just feels like the weight of the world on my shoulders , constant battle with myself , frustration , anger , scared . I don’t know. Hope I can manage it before it’s too late . 🙏🏽❤️
Wow 2, you have a long road ahead. Try to enjoy it while you can. The good moments are far and in between, believe me I know. But once you have a kid there's no going back, you've now condemned another soul to this dank hellscape, you have to at least be there. My kid grew up and I don't even know him, so use me as your inspiration 💫 do better than me
You've got a two year old son who loves you and will give you many great moments of joy, pride, and love in the coming years. If that's not enough to keep you going, what is? So many people, like me, will never know that happiness. I envy you, my friend. Your future isn't as bleak as it feels right now.
Lots. A mans responsible to support his family. Life insurance penalizes the thought that a man may have a choice. Whether to continue supporting people who know this. And use it to their benefit. The number one reason I haven't done it, is that I worry that I will be found to be a coward. Or the insurance company will argue the true cause. I believe that a majority of fatalities in single person crashes are men. And suicide being the goal. We have all thought about it, whether we admit it or not. Twisted ideas about who we should be. Versus who adult men were trained to be. Is a large part of why. The woman we love want us to be secretly strong. And cower in public. How to see it for what it really is? Leave a relationship that has mixed feelings about men. Even if you have children. The message needs to be.... live.. not just for others .
My dad comitted suicide just 2 nights ago . . . And the control aspect you talk about in the video makes me understand more why he did it, every control aspect was taken away by the justice system, my dad drunk a lot, he did some bad things but he wasn't a bad man, he was loved by every family member, but he couldn't take the pain anymore from being away from us . . .
Was it because your father felt alone He never really belonged in this world he never fitted in With people Relationship wasn't very strong At the end Family never really understood him
Im 33 years old single male with no kids. This is a very very lonely and cold place that we live in. Unless ur one of the very lucky few who has happiness, a good wife and regular sex.
almost 50 and never married/no family and nothing to show for my life...I hear you loud and clear. Add living in a tiny town with gossips...paradise eh?
@@robraver 34 had it all, 4 years ago i lost it all. Wife, son, work , and my motivation. And my health also but that was already going down before my 30s.
I am in tha same situation also. To be honest there are moments that do cross my mind in committing suicide. Weighing in all the pros and cons when evaluating my life situation. I just dont understand how can any guy commit suicide if they have everything. Like good job, wife, family with kids and something to look forward to in life. You would think that all that would fill the emptiness that one feels. Maybe its something that they need to look over before they do anything. Those people that have all that have a better chance in living life than the others like me I would say. It's just my opinion. In my case to be honest, like the guy said in the video the only choose that the person that is living with pain is to choose t it'll where to continue to live life or just end it.
I would stay away from family life. It's too toxic nowadays. The dad and kids get destroyed in the process and the women gets everything and expects everyone to feel sorry for her because her marriage is over.
I could talk about it but it wouldn’t make a difference. My wife is leaving me and taking my children. She doesn’t love me anymore. How do you deal with that? 22 years wasted. I will not grow old with her. She is the only family I have. I also have a disability. I do not want to be alone.
Really, really sorry, Keyser. :( You raise a very common, dreadful issue. It's a tragedy we're not dealing with the unfair legal system that destroys men.
I too find talking to be futile. Talking changes nothing, because the numbers of deaths, divorced and levels of depression stays constant. Everything we come to love is temporary, so I'll decide when the suffering ends. I take comfort in knowing I have control of what happens till the end. I personally don't care if I'm alone when everything ends, but once it's done, you won't need to worry about anything. Good luck!
@@jharding578 Depression AND suicide rates in the US (and abroad) have been increasing for years. I'd NEVER tell anyone when it's my turn because I know we live in a culture that on the one hand makes life very hard for a lot of people, practically telling them to kill themselves, but on the other hand torturing those who want to die. I ignore the anti-suicide crap. My life, my decision. No one will ever take that from me if/when the time comes.
Be strong. We came alone and will go alone. Let's not get attached to worldly things. Even this body is on rent which we have to discard one day. Do something to enrich your soul by doing yoga and meditation.
Mario, there is strength and purpose in your heart beyond what you imagine. Wake up tomorrow and decide that, just for one day, you're going to be a positive person. Just for one day. But, you've got to put your best effort into it. When the day is over you'll realize just how powerful have a positive attitude can be. Not saying that you'll be able to do it for the entire week. But if you do this a couple of times a week, you'll slowly start discovery just how strong you are.
@peachie05 Excuse me?! I didnt fucking cheat on my spouse while I was deployed. She did. I dont ask for the right to vote, without being drafted. Women do. We arent teaching kids to hate one gender. They are. We arent teaching boys to rape, kill, or beat women. They are, by promoting fatherless households and supporting the rap and hip hop industry. I'll accept blame when you can find one fucking fault with what I've done, in regards to society's expectations. Go ahead you fucking asshole. Im fucking waiting! Fucking say it! Say it you goddamn puke. FUCKING SAY IT!!!!!
My dad took his own life 4 months ago and I have been truly struggling while dealing with it. I love my dad and he always loved me but we always had a strained relationship for different reasons many of which I put on me. For this reason when we lost him the guilt and responsibility I felt was overwhelming and still is. Listening to you talk about your experience gives me hope for me and has taught me things I did not know. This really helped me. Well done. Thank you.
Sometimes we just can't keep going, i struggle everyday to get up and go to my full job. Lifes hard and sometimes its hard to see the reasons to keep going
Because the (ms) media is a load of dogshit whether they cover it or not. If they were to theyd spin it in some way to suit a specific narrative that they're selling.
Its not purpose. Purpose is made. Men make things. Its not because of pain, men have a higher pain tolerance than people think. Its because we are hated. We are hated for what we are. We are loved for what we do, but hated for what we are. And we are better than women. And because of that simple fact, women hate us. Women make up majority voters. Men's rights is a non issue for women until no men are left. Suicide is a man's way of showing his discontent for society that hates him.
Because he is, unfortunately. A woman shouldn't marry a man who has mental issues anymore than a man should marry a woman with them. A man needs to be capable of leading and raising children.
Mee too. exact words, exact order. On top of it EV ERYONE is shutting me out. Its one-way effort only to be scorned harder if I challenge somebody. Making too much sense is a curse. WHAT HAVE MY SO-CALLED PEERS/GIRLFREINDS DONE FOR ME LATELEY??? (khm...khm...care to answer ladies?)
im almost 23 years old and i have lived alone for 5 years and i know nobody. i was an orphan and i grew up in care homes, i never got to go to school and i spent some 30 months in a young offenders institution on remand for a crime i was falsely accused of. since i got out of there 5 years ago, i havent met anyone. i havent met anyone the same age as me since i was 12 and i have never socialised or been to parties or had relationships. every day i look out of my window and i see people walking together, i see groups of 7-8 teenagers, and it is like i dagger to the heart to look at them and know that i have never even know 7 people before. i have never been part of a group. i never learned to socialise because i have never done it before. and now i have to live with the reality that there are 14 year olds who go to school, get to live at home with their parents, they socialise they party, they fuck people, they know other people the same age as them. and i will never be able to experience any of that. what is the point in being alive when i have no access to humans and no contact with anyone else? what is the point in being alive when i am almost 23 and havent lived yet?
Violence Is Fun The point is that perhaps you have 50 or seventy years to keep searching and learning how to make good relationships. Blessings and peace be with you always
I understand. I read books where friends bond with deep relationships. I've never had a deep relationship with a friend, but I can forge some through fiction
Visit a small church...not a big one...also I'm praying for you. I'm your brother and you have others coming in your life. We love you. May God give you peace and may you find friends. My name is Darrell. Reply to this message. Thanks
I’m 25. Never had friends. Never had a gf or been intimate with a woman. College dropout. Skill-less. Talentless. I work manual labor and still live at home. Ive been studying for an A+ cert to enter the professional/tech field but have been told it’s a waste of time. I believe it may be true since this world is moving so fast. Not so much socially phobic as I am awkward. I give off a serial killer vibe. I can’t conversation for the life of me. I give robotic responses that you would expect from a pre programmed animatronic. I’m so tired of myself and this situation. Well my question to you all is, would it even be worth it to keep living? I try to stay positive but with everyone being cold towards me, no support from family, and the weight of knowing I wasted my youth is really bearing down on me too hard. I think about the supposed “better” future but I know I’m so far behind on relationship development with friends and romantic partners that it would be like a 10 year old starting life at 25. I’m in dire need of help.
It really is worth living. You’re still young at 25, you still have time to make a life you enjoy. Never let what’s happened in the past define who you are today.
The first thing you need to do, is go for a therapy, it may be a pain in the arse to do so, but try to do it when you're ready. The second one, if you have a faith (as in religion) start to practice it once more, go to church or wherever your religion's holy place is and start praying. Mine's not much of an advice and more of a repetition to the advices before, but believe me, with the two of those combined, you'll found that your life, no matter how low it is right now, is worth living
my brother-in-law (38) committed suicide 2 days ago and we are very devastated right now. If only I was there to talk to him or guide him, it is really difficult when you are away from your family and you have no idea on what has been going on in there lives. He was a good man, more than good tbh. He has a child that's only 5 yrs old , and that poor boy will grow up without a father. I feel deeply sorry for my sister, imagine the mental and emotional burden she's carrying at the moment 😢
Thanks for posting this video. I always hate it when people say it is done for attention. All of the focus is on other groups, but men have little or no help. It is pretty awful.
That's why I never talk about my depression because people dont care because I'm Male and because they think it's for attention I asked my mom I'm depressed she said if I killed my self I will go to hell that's when I stopped talking about it
I've lost 4 close friends to suicide in the past 5 years, now after the first one we all talked about how we could stop it from happening again and we said we should be talking about it more, yet it happened another 3 times. Men talking about their feelings will not solve this issue, there are other things at play. Did men talk more about their feelings 50 years ago when they killed themselves in much smaller numbers? Did they fuck. The problem, I believe, is rooted in the culture of "I don't need no man!", the constant demonisation of men and hostility towards masculinity (from pre-school age), feminist bullshit that essentially makes men feel useless, unwanted, unloved and alone.
andybytheway I think you're correct. Our culture is changing and it's having a detrimental affect on men. Women don't need men anymore. They can support themselves especially with the help of child support. They don't need a man. If they need physical love women can get that easily with no strings attached. Life has no purpose for a man if he's not needed. What's the point in living if all you do is go to work and come home to an empty house. Loneliness and solitude will eventually break a man. Even the Bible says "it's not good that man should be alone." And, "he who finds a wife finds a good thing."
We both need each other. At my workplace I notice some women are really good at picking up how others feel, if they are sleeping properly etc. I think we also need the nuclear family and equal balance of roles, I don't think a housewife is actually bad since a child needs attention and quality is better than quantity. We can't do everything on our own. There are women who can do stereotypically male stuff and vice versa. I think the problem with modern society is that it is too self oriented and doesn't focus on the big picture of how things work.
xhemexx I really wish they would face judgement after death, but I don't believe in religion. Life simply goes on, like nothing really happened. I tried 4 times to end my suffering, and life simply went on. I can either obtain my own karma by hurting those who have hurt me, or I can just ignore everything and simply vanish after death. Tough decisions
Because the average man never feels wanted and appreciated and when a man have problem and show his problem tend to be rejected and replaced.. The standard man for an average or even a ugly girl is high we must to be a the top of every aspect good look, good social status, good dick, brilliant mind, must be strong, never need help, we MUST a lot of things...
I know the topic is about men, but i could include those to women as well... its just doesnt actually make sense.. because women has to be best on many aspects too in order to have better life, unlike men they are even being shamed for their body and has to be modest, i could call it as discrimination towards women, this could lead to low selfesteem, cmon even their toplessness being age restricted and censored on social media or shamed in outside, while men even he is be naked is fine, such a nice free life for a man which men dont value in my opinion, i feel like they just too spoiled. Ofcourse also depends on which country people live because some countries just dont give women so much rights as in west, in this case men are expeted to work as a horse what also can increase suicide rate of men. Also maybe by nature men are way too brave than women to get rid of their own life. So i still wonder why men are suicidal more than women..
@@Anonim-bl1et Because men are shamed and taught to repress their "unmanly" emotions from very early age..vulnerability in men is despisd not least by women plus women normally have a much better support network of family and friends plus the welfare system will always prioritise the single woman above the single man ..you hear a lot about depression etc in women which is real and terrible most men only talk about it as a last resort..plus men rarely get custody of children
too fucking right mate, I'm sure you can relate to this, woman are with you until they realise you're not some possession but a human being with wants and needs and emotions just like everybody else and suddenly they're not so interested, I'm not saying all women are like this but I've had my fair share
Thank you for this video. You’re spot on with your understanding of the pain. The pain can be so bad that it’s even more painful than the thoughts of leaving your children and how it will affect them.
first time i thought of suicide i was 9 yrs old. Im 53 and have attempted it a few times. Opening up with years of abuse and being in trouble, broke relationships, just loss loss loss. People try to understand its a state of mind. I just want to stop the pain within. I have a care worker, but ive hit that low point. Enough is enough. I know its just a matter of time now, i will suceed in taking my life. You have hit it on the nail about the pain. Cant cope anymore. I am at peace with taking my life. Im not selfish, im broken, and some things cant be fixed.
I hope you're still with us earthbound strugglers! Where there's life there IS hope. Broken will never look new. But broken CAN be mended, like a vase fallen, broken and patched up! Maybe a few pieces are missing. It will never hold water. But you CAN put a candle inside it, put a flame, and watch the brightness flicker out of the cracks and holes! Watch the light bounce around on the surface of the ground in lovely patterns! So what there are no flowers! Show us your extravagant wounds! They have PURPOSE!
My adult son feels lost and hopeless and suicidal and I'm mortified all day, I wake up and cry, then wake up worrying all day again. I feel so helpless. I bet your mom is suffering over you as well. ❤
I was having suicidal thoughts this past night. If youtube wasn't there, and you weren't here, I don't know what would've happened. But you gave me the insight to realize that I'm not a weak man thinking about this issue. I don't know how it'll last but I want to make it my mission to think talk and do something about suicide everyday till I die. I hope to go around one day to a person who was having similar thoughts as me and offer the same wisdom you offered me. That "hey, it's okay. I have suicidal thoughts on a daily basis. Let's talk about it. you're not alone. Maybe one more day." Thank you and god bless.
Suicide is caused by mental anguish, associated deeply with women. I know from personal experience. In 1995, my brother killed himself due to several tragic occurences, but ultimately connected to the evil actions of his former wife - a woman.
ennui blue everyone is responsible for their actions. And if your actions cause someone else enough pain to kill themselves then you are responsible for their death. Fuck off with that shit!
No disrespect to anyone, but one thing I have a hard time understanding is how a man who is married to a loving wife and children can feel suicidal? I'm 43 and single. I've never been married and it's torment. It just seems like a man who is actually loved in this world has so much to live for. Life will never be perfect, but at least you've got people who love you. At least you have a wife to come home to and love, embrace, talk to, and wake up to every morning. That's a BLESSING! I have such a hard time understanding why those men would choose to end their life. I can see why guys like me or divorced men would end their life. Hopelessness.
Ace Goodheart Maybe the grass always seems to be greener on the other side of the fence Loneliness is a dreadful feeling but maybe single people (men) do not realise that they are loved more than they can imagine. The old fashioned idea that being loved means having sex is the cause of the problem?
George Alderson No, if a female says she loves me (as a partner) then she should give me some sex or else we’re going nowhere, however I get what you mean by the other type of love from family and friends, also I wish no man have to go through life with the horrible notion in the back of their minds that they’ve never had sex.
@@user-kn2qk8ly8c Maybe we (men) could find out from our woman who love each other why we are not having sex if sex is imprtant in the relationship and work togethether towards it or around it.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for having the courage to make this video. My husband walked in front of a train 6 months ago. Everything you spoke about I can relate to. You’re a very brave young man and your understanding of this subject is spot on. The pain for us survivors is also horrific. I would like someone to talk to about this who understands suicide as it’s a type of different death.
Thank you for watching. I’m so sorry to hear about your husband, I post a lot more videos and content around mental health on my Facebook page which hopefully might help too. Bereavement by suicide is hard to deal with but you’re not alone going through this :)
See it’s about you it’s not about the person who feels unwanted alone un loved again it’s about what hell you can get for living with suicide I lost fiancée to suicide but I don’t go asking for help for it as it did no good but again a woman not thinking about us men but thinking how she geeks what you want what you need what you think you deserve again it’s put the woman first and man behind dog, men last again let’s put this woman first get her wants sorted out has to have her wants done us men don’t stand a fucking chance we’ll all be gone before king I see a future where it’s going to be 10% male if that and 90% female living in this planet especially UK and America I lost a fiancé of 7 years to suicide I’m not asking for help I’m actually reading comments to see if there’s folk out there like me who I can actually help in some way any way before I go out God took two lives from me, my fiancé then a wife of 10 years to cancer but again yes put us last I’d love to see world from heaven above looking down when population is 5% male 95% female what then because that’s direction it’s going more females are being born than men in new study and it’s up.90% males for suicide now fucking hate this selfish world Iv always always put others first look where got me s as bd now a woman coming on asking for her needs and wants met
@@cyrilsneer5957 Cyril, your very name means "Lordly". It connotes "Great Spiritual Potential" We in this society NEED what God has created YOU to do for us, and through us, for Him. Please, don't throw YOU away. No one cares? Though I don't know you, I DO! YES, I DO
Hey Paul, thanks for posting this video, my dad also took his life a few years back. It's nice to see more and more people spreading awareness these days.
I’m sorry to hear about that. I lost my friend 4 years ago when I was a softmore in highschool. Now, an hour ago, I found out a childhood friend of mine shot himself in the head. Life is hard. But we gotta all stick together and count our blessings, and not take moments spent with your people from granted. I hope all is good on your side brouther.
@@ryancovelski850 very sorry to hear that’s devastating… for me diving deeper into spiritual (whatever one beloved in) was instrumental in finding comfort ..
I am so proud of you for allowing yourself this process to grieve the death of your father's suicide and to have the courage to share your process. I believe it will help so many. Your voice is strong and what a beautiful way to honor your father.
Your a brave person to openly talk about suicide and I deeply sorry you lost your Dad . It the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about suicide. It one of the hardest griefs to deal with . It is the just been the second anverisary of my Brother taking his life . I am grateful for you talking and sharing about your pain and showing your strength . Keep up the great work you are doing . God Bless you .
this is a nice video.i've found my dad at the attic 11 months ago.still don't know how to deal with it.besidess the fact he knew i was the first one to find him.he knew i would but didn't stop him from doing it.many questions rushing trough my head when i think about it but most of them will never be answered. thx for sharing your story i'm sorry for your loss.keep up the good work.
Rob, hoping you're coping and o.k. Please don't drive yourself crazy looking for reasons why things played out as they did and if you can forgive and release your Dad I think it might be best. God Bless 🙏 Guy, Be Well !
I'm 34 and the only way people know if I exist if I go to them. Had a gf and she made me feel worse than I ever did while I was single. Done things right but still not good enough. My dog died and I just really cant no more. I lost a past job to taking medication for depression so seeking help is not the answer. Talking to someone that gets paid to talk to you makes me feel even more down. My dad has never told me good job or hes proud of me. I hurt every day.life sucks and would be a better place without me
Man, I feel for you. I have four older brothers. I WORSHIP them. I'd die for my brothers as the only girl. What you've shared, I can't wrap my mind around experiencing day after day. I wish I could take your pain away.
Hey, you're probably right, but the world doesn't care. The earth will keep rotating around its axis after our deaths, and I only hope someone would be affected. I cared way too much for other people, their suffering and personal problems that I broke. I never had a Girlfriend or pet, but I know how shitty you felt. It's honestly moments like these that I wish God existed, a supernatural force that could theoretically relieve us of our pains. I now don't care to much about others problems because the answer is simple: death. It's nothing to be scared or ashamed of. I stopped caring about what others think or expect, because I am now in control. You will ALWAYS run into dilemmas; you can either continuing suffering and hoping you can solve the problem logically, or you can find happiness in ending it all. I chose the latter. Good luck!
Male friend: *how are you* *?* What men should say: *I'm struggling and i don't know who to talk to* What men say because because they have been told all their lives not to show emotions: *I'm good*
For a man to admit that he is depressed, hopeless and suicidal, is to admit that he is a failure at life. This is too humiliating and shameful for most men to admit, and so they dont seek help. Depressed men regret the past, they feel uncomfortable and unhappy in the present moment, and they fear that the future will be progressively worse. A wrong attitude toward life, a lack of meaning and the absense of a vision of a positive, compelling future, are a very bad combination.
My uncle took his own life when he was 28 years old. I never understood why he did it when I was younger, but now I’m that age I fully understand. They say a man dies on the inside in his mid twenties. Many of us live the same day over and over again to get 1 or 2 days off and then the cycle repeats. It’s hard to have a positive outlook on life when we all feel like we’re stuck inside the Matrix
It’s a hard long fight especially when you are alone. Depending on how you grow up, and what you’re going through today and vary. Going through my bs, trying to cope, it seems like I do the weirdest things just to try to get though it everyday, weather it’s sleeping longer hours, alcohol, driving for the heck of it or sleeping outside in the middle of nowhere. The hardest thing in the world is talking to someone, because the bottle is the easy thing to turn too when you have no one.
I’m sorry to hear about your father. Based on me talking to other people and them telling me this is just a temporary thing yadda yadda yadda, I’m telling you that there was nothing you could do for your dad, except force him to continue to endure for everyone else’s peace of mind. Sounds like he put a really honest and solid life effort to getting to the bottom of his issues with his education and everything else. I can relate. I’m 43. Been kicking this can down the road a really long time now. I’m sorry for your loss. It’s not easy on anyone involved.
From a person on the edge: it's because life cannot fulfill our expectations, plain and simple. Other people mostly talk trash to you, and forget we are here only once.
Thank you so much for sharing. Very courageous of you. I can't even imagine what it's like to have a parent pass from suicide. I have had 4 people pass in front of me and one in my arms, but never by suicide. It hurts like hell,but still you are very brave sharing this my friend
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and taking a stand to have a voice about such an important issue. My husband recently lost his life to suicide, leaving 2 children and myself behind. Mental health is a major crisis in our world and needs a ton of attention in order to create some change.
I am so sorry for you Luckily I don't have a child with my last husband, actually I only ask for a divorce and how we can arrange this financially and with our house. It would have been difficult, but then he hanged himself
My father committed suicide in the 90s. Now it's my turn. I'm lost, broken and broke. I'm alone and unloved so I want it to end. I have had enough of the fear and I'm done with this world.
The hardest thing for people accept about suicide is that it might be the right thing to do in some cases...depends on the degree of misery one is in and if one has the genetic endowment to live a fulfilling life...
I'm so sorry mate for your loss and your pain. It's heartbreaking of the pain suffered by you as the child of a parent the chose to suicide. You should never have had to go through this. My heart truly goes out to you. Your courage to make this video is truly inspiring.
Us men really have no one to lean on when we need help . we cant talk to other men and woman will think we wear for talking about our feelings and if we do talk about it they throw it in our face down that road.
Im going on 31. I can't stand what modern society is like and all my plans to change how i live and try and get away from it etc just will take a few years or so and the thing is im TIRED OF LIFE BEING WORK. The things that are free(which i have realized i have a deep hatred for currency)- arent the things that anyone seems to focus on. All I can hope is that the next realm is better. Or that its nothing. I went and got what I needed after my brother stealing my 9mm(which hes so dumb for doing) anyways got my a 12g. I'm checking out out in probably a week. I'm tired of people trying to justify living. Im thinkin I'll drive to the grand canyon and shoot myself while i look at the sunset.
Great video- I have heard alcoholics say depression is anger you haven't dealt with- that it needs to be lived out in a non-destructive way- so often we live out the 'pain of the past' by drinking too much, sex, drugs, junk food etc- but I think there's a lot you can do to help yourself- going to a safe place to scream and shout, to break a jam jar, take a hatchet and chop wood even if the mind at that moment in time doesn't know what to do the body is living out that unresolved anger- talking to someone as well, when we say things out loud they take on a greater power. Being attentive, counting your footsteps, getting out into nature- they sound small, but its the small things that help to get people well.
Thank you 🙏 once you convince yourself it’s the only option , it’s extremely difficult to think of anything else … facing financial ruin with lack of prospects at a certain age is a dark rabbit hole to be sure
Wow!! It’s taken me weeks to watch this in its entirety. You, Paul, are one brave, courageous, insert adjective here, man. I would say how excruciating it must have been to do this piece but I can see it all over your face. Seeing your face and the reaction this video has given me, I don’t know? I’m having trouble conjuring up the proper words? I’m an old, older Cat with two young daughters of my own and these past few years living without them has hastened my downward spiral but since watching this, I’ve realized that I do in fact care. I never want to cause the pain you’ve endured and will continue to endure, to some extent,the rest of your life, in one way or another. I cannot do this to them and I feel terrible writing this because it seems so morbid thinking/typing how your unimaginable sorrow could ever be a good thing. You do know what I mean by saying good? You experience is not a good one. Will never be good, so I hope you understand what I’m so terribly trying to say, right? But damn, Paul, it’s been seven years and it pains me, to see your pain, seven years out. I can’t do this to them. I know I’m probably rambling and I hope being somewhat coherent but I can’t stop myself from typing. Now, after finally being able to watch this production completely, I’m hoping my wellness will improve because in your face, I can see my daughters faces. That has made me reflect & realize just how selfish I would be to inflict this type of pain on them(my girls)and leaving them scarred. I know a scar is proof a wound has healed, which means, it(whatever wound), will/has gotten better. I just can’t do this to my daughters, or anybody else that loves me. I’m going to find a way persevere. This I promise. Will I succeed? How the hell can I say yes or no? All I am certain of, is the desire to get through this now. I have to keep telling myself that suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem and that this, is indeed, a temporary problem. If I didn’t care what people will look, see, or do, if I ask for help, I would but for some stupid reason, I won’t. Hopefully I can get through this alone and will find a way to change the sad to glad? Again, I apologize for the rant and thank you for whatever time out of your busy day you’ve wasted reading this, if you read this. I’m not sure if any of this diatribe has made sense and if it hasn’t, I apologize again but I felt compelled to say/type something. Lastly, you, Paul, are a a brave man. I’m sure you’ve had to relive quite a bit of your horrific tragedy while filming this but I am so grateful you did it. Watching this has helped me out tremendously. I am so sorry for the loss of your father. The respect you’ve earned from me for caring about all of us enough to relive your past, in hopes of helping others, is infinite. I will not, cannot respect someone more than I respect you, Paul. That is genuine and couldn’t be more sincere. Thanks for your time, StevenKeith
Steven, a huge thank you for your honesty in your comment. I truly appreciate you watching, sharing and even sharing some appreciation of the video. You're not alone, and things can get better. I hope you never forget that.
Someone needs to talk about the Titanic syndrome, because that’s about how I feel at the moment. The world does not give a fuck about men and the feeling is becoming mutual
I have no friends, every time I try to talk to people, people act like I'm invisible, nobody wants to hang out, everybody is too busy to do anything outside their lives. The only thing that prevents me from killing myself is my fear of surviving, I know how strong the human body is, and I don't want to become a vegetable, or handicapped and make my life worse
so sorry about your father----and can hear the horror of the pain and anger that that has caused------my mother commited suicide when i was a baby -----i have been suicidal all my life and wonder why people dont want to commit suicide -----this world is evil and dark --
@@Lisme438 I can't speak for him, but I will say that as someone who has never so much as hugged a woman at age 35, the thought of going to work every day and coming home to nothing for many many more decades is more mortifying to me than the thought of killing myself.
"Only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something" - Chris Rock
You forgot about grass , which is also more important than men.
@Puja Adhikari I don't think so
@Puja Adhikari fucking liar
@Puja Adhikari nope
@Puja Adhikari exactly women have to be pretty or provide sex
THE AVERAGE HARD WORKING MAN NO LONGER FEELS APPRECIATED OR EVEN WANTED.
Luke TRUTH!
You absolutely hit the nail on the head. I'd buy you a drink if I could.
It's true. I met my ex wife and she had nothing. I provided a house, paid all the bills and went out to work everyday, she made zero effort and expected me to do everything and then she filed for divorce.
and in the end thats all you do, work, pay bills and die what the fucks the point of that
Spot on.
people say suicide is selfish - no - selfish is YOU wanting me to live a life i don’t want to.
My God your so right.
Yep.
I had a friend who would rather watch his dog lanquish in pain more and more every day because nothing could be done for it and HE couldn't let go of it or the thought of his being without the dog... was the dog mentally ill or selfish?
@@petemavus2948 no but I could be put down for it's suffering. Humans don't have that choice. This is why you walk in to a bloody room, and see something you don't want to.
YES!! Finally, someone else gets it!
Talk about "my body, my choice"... Everyone supports that idea UNTIL it becomes "inconvenient" for others.
Suicide is only selfish when you're escaping/evading responsibility (i.e. paying for a crime).
The sad part is when a male talks about his suffering, people make fun of him and calls him an incel.
I'll stand up and vouch for this comment. I've heard multiple people close to me talking about people that you could almost say were very much like me, in very very distasteful ways. When your brother is clearly anxious and not very social, shitting on "incel fags who can't even talk to girls" when I'm 5 yards away isn't exactly what I'd call "situational awareness", and doesn't make me any more willing to talk about why I struggle to open up (which I get pressed by the same family member to "open up more" and doesn't get the irony in them saying that). I'd rather suffer on my own then have other people actively increasing it.
You're exactly right in your comment, nobody wants to hear that a man is struggling...we are just supposed to push on and stay strong because in fact we are a man...but they obviously have never ever dealt with any kind of depression or true sadness! Smh thats why i just stay quiet until I work up the nerve to stop the pain!
When I heard a guy talk about his issues and suicidal thoughts I literally heard some people to do it I stayed with the guy my entire life from when we were kids cause he was the only person I had left to call a friend....he was there for me......only to find him dead the next day and honestly I cried.......only to be told to man up and stop crying like a baby and people laughed at me..........all because I cried fir my friend who was there for me when I needed him, but I wasn’t fucking there for him
Yep, fucking Redditors in a nutshell
@Stay Away nigga learn the term incel,it means involuntarily celibate,that's all it means ,it doesn't mean mass shooter misogynist
if a man reveals his emotions it will be used against him, society leaves men with no choice
Fuck society. Never conform to this broken fucked up society. If nobody is giving a fuck about me then how can they give a fuck about the world and society we live in ?
@@bobi966 Fucking facts bro
@@bobi966
I totally agree, but speaking as someone who has somehow managed to "successfully" buck the system and tell society and all its trends and conformity to go piss up a rope (meaning I never was much for joining the crowd beyond my own genuine desire/interest to pursue whatever is "popular" or "cool"), that does not necessarily make things much easier. It's definitely less worse, but not much better.
We are left with no choice whatsoever
Weakness is not a desirable male trait. Don't ever talk about your emotions or show emotions. No one cares about a man's tears.
The idea of living a life alone makes dying much more inviting.
Its a lonely world
Nobody really cares about men's well being. It is really sad.
Yeah true
Nadia Blue yeah because we always say “I’m the man come on man ,I can do it “and then it destroys our personalities by the end .
And another thing is lack of purposes in life.
Same the problem no one help you and trusting someone can. E difficult
It’s sad but true…
I care
I am 51. I have hated life, and have suffered depression, and oppression from the womb. If it wasnt for me not wanting my animals to be homeless, I would not be here typing this message.
Hey Joe how are you
@Fires And Flowers fuck religion man.
Sorry that life has made you feel this way, people will never understand how real the pain inside can be.
Y have a beautiful name.
You found your reason to live. Congrats. Take care of your animals. Thats your purpose.
Mid 40s divorced. Alone. Have two daughters. The loneliness and pain is horrible. I have Crohn’s disease and I’m in constant pain and have to work non stop.
It’s like living in a prison.
That is difficult. I hope that doctors can give you some relief. My cousin has Crohns and it is very painful so I hear.
🥰🥰🥰 sending hugs and love your way!
First off, praise to God that you are providing for 2 daughters! That in itself raises your stature above many others!
Please reach out to anyone you are able to, and hang in there, life gets better, even if you are suffering. It's counter-intuitive, but it's true!
Everyday you experience hardship, you become stronger!
May God bless you and your daughters, and may your daughters grow up to be your help.
Children are blessing. You are not alone with them. Unlike me i can never have children. You're not as bad as you think. Embrace your children. I never can and never will.
John have you tried smoking weed?
Some people say it's selfish but how do live for others if it's painful to live with yourself.
Two days ago that’s what I was feeling. But I told people that and it went away. So sometimes if you have a problem you gotta resolve it whether it’s a situation or emotional problem don’t drown in it alone. Pray. Talk. Chanel our emotions in a creative outlet, are brain is wired to articulate what we are feeling
When you’re vulnerable you can only get better
But don’t kill yourself because God would be really sad if his child didn’t want to live to serve Him and that’s vital. I struggle with motivation I’m a lazy person and sometimes I just don’t wanna wake up I love to lie in bed all day and cry.
@@red-headedabigail5794 fuck god
@@red-headedabigail5794 god exist exist 💀
The world is a cruel dark place, your surrounded by people every day but rarely say more than a hello to each other. Technology has pushed us further apart rather than pulling us together.
Filling people with drugs doesn’t fix the problem of depression. Men get depressed working dead end jobs, living the same day over and over again, that’s how I feel.
I hate my life and increasingly wish I was gone, switched off and no longer here.
I feel my life has no purpose and there’s nothing I can do about it.
I wish I was dead.
I too don't like to live in this non adventurous, unhappy society😫😫
I hear ya.....but remember it takes balls to kill yourself.... people think that those who do are cowards....I say they are brave....and only they know the ultimate......btw don't kill yourself....you made it this far.... keep going
I feel ya man 😔
@@bradcote13 Yeah we made it this far but we are going to die anyways, might as well go whenever one wants.
Try gaming or a new hobbie the only way but I guess it’s difficult too find it sometimes
I am 30 yo, completely alone, have never been in a relationship, nor experienced a sense of companionship with anyone. I don't have many friends or any good friends. I am considering a swift end. So I absolutely don't understand what causes a man who has a loving family - wife and kids - and a lot of friends, based on what you said, to commit suicide.
It's a complicated thing, dude.
I'm like you, having very little experience with women and intimate connections. I lamented about it all through my 20s and 30s, but began to "detach" and "disconnect" during my 40s and now I'm 50 and really have very few fucks to give about being/living/dying alone without any female companionship or other relationships. I practically prefer it at this point cos it's just "neater" and simpler.
As for people who "have it all" and still off themselves? Like I said, that shit is complicated. Clearly something was missing for them. Or the "picture perfect" life we think they have was not so perfect. They could have been drowning in debt about to lose everything, there could be abuse going on behind closed doors, addictions, all kinds of fucked up shit. Sometimes there's nothing insidious or wrong, but yet they still feel a void somehow - that's when it gets complicated.
Everyone is different and have different values that measure to different degrees so their is no one fixed answer to explain it, but once someone is so inclined to start digging into that person's life, eventually the motive is revealed, or at least points to the general direction.
Anytime you feel like someone who "has it all" threw it all away and had no reason, consider that maybe they indeed had something you do not : whatever problem only those who "have it all" can have. That makes people like you and me kind of lucky in our own way.
I used to feel like a total loser because I could never find any women who were interested in me sexually (and maybe I am a loser - but so what)... then one day I realized that never getting sex means my odds of catching an STI/STD was reduced to virtually ZERO (at least via sexual contact), as was any attempt by any gold-digging tramp to claim I sired anyone's children and be on the hook for child support! ;-)
Despite the deficit in carnal relations, as long as I still have two working hands and a comfortable reach, I can "take matters into my own hands" and do what I gotta do to satisfy my natural urges. Never let any macho swine or anyone else shame you for resorting to that. If you can afford it and feel an escort or prostitute will save you some dignity, then do that. No shame, no judgment. No shame in "self-servicing", either. If we were not meant to be able do that, our arms would be a hell of a lot shorter.
And the plus of that is, I never have to worry about the pressures of performance, stamina, or frequency. Whether I take 30 seconds or 30 minutes to bust a nut, is completely at MY leisure. I may even decide not to finish (cos I get sleepy and just wanna zonk out). I am also not chained down to the "same old thing" time after time ; my variety is only limited to my own imagination in conjunction with my "spank bank" and/or ability to navigate the interwebs.
My point is, just as there can be many unseen positives to our perceived negatives, there can also be a lot of unseen negatives to all the perceived positives of those we observe and think we wish we had their situation.
Anyway, I dunno if you're still around to see this comment, given it was 2 years ago that you posted, but hopefully you are, and you're finding ways to cope and make the best of things.
Cheers.
Count yourself lucky man. It's better to have never known how fucking soul crushing being married is. You do literally everything for someone else, you sacrifice everything that makes you who you are, and then she just decides she doesn't love you anymore and leaves you for another man just because she can. It makes you feel less than human. Like everything you've ever done is completely worthless. Like you don't matter at all.
Most of those men are narcissists. The ones with family, wife, mistresses, kids who kill themselves
Those men want to kill themselves and so do I , but I can’t even get a text back or much less a date.
Harley happened to my sister. She gave her all 15 yrs new marriage he just upped and left, left her with nothing and broken, weather it’s a man woman does this it’s soul destroying. 😩
Well that man you think has "a wonderful family" is actually surrounded by an evaluation officer called wife, who is in it as long as he performs. Once he stops providing he will be quickly discarded.
And you want to kill yourself because you don't have this in your life?
"Women never love men, only what men can provide"
My children were once my heart. I would have died for all of them. Now--- I can't even get calls for my birthday, father's day, or how are you doing. Their mother planted in their heads that I was a horrible man. Although, I have never said any bad things about their mother, they decided to cut ties with me. My son had lunch with me for the first time- he is 27 years old. I am alone, my health is bad. As I type this, I am thinking about it... everyday I think about it. Mental it is difficult for me to keep a job. Praying ? is it enough. I tried seeking help and it was a disaster- The 800 number did not work for me.
DOC WILLIAMS SR dude, I sincerely hope you didn’t go trough with it.
Man.. i feel you. But thats as much as i can say. Its tough
Lil Doc, wish I could give you a HUGE bear hug.
Lil Doc Davis praying will do nothing. It's like talking on the phone, but no one is on the other side listening. You're children had done the worst deed to top you by cutting their ties. Hey, shit happens. I'd say move on, let them go, or be happy in knowing you will control you life until you end it. You should not fear death. I'm only waiting until I have a platform of financial security. Good luck!
Contact The Good News Misdion in your state...you won’t regret it
Physical pain is nothing compared to mental pain that we live with every day.
Some of us deal with the constant extreme of both
We shouldn't make comparisons. Chronic physical pain is no joke.
@@Vlasko60 I have physical and mental pain every day...
@@martinsteele3259 I'm sorry to hear that.
As someone who is in chronic pain physical pain, you cant say we have it easy. It's causing me mental health issues too
You know, i see girls cry to one another and get support from each other, sometimes do like sleep over etc and its totally normal for them and i am honestly jealous of that. you cannot do it with men. They will think you are weak or not take you seriously. I've tried to open up about my issues to other guys but usually not many care at all. its just the truth. also, just the fact that you have to work entire life depresses the hell out of me.
Same I feel jealous of girls. They can do all emotional and sensitive things
But for us even two men spending time with each other is labelled gay
Get good female friends that don't judge
Same
But this isn’t “women’s” fault, it’s society’s fault. It’s the toxic masculinity DRIVING society towards these fucked up standards and the blind conformism surrounding it.
No its not the truth, i care about my friends its just that i feel extremly aquad if one came to me in tears ! i wouldnt knnow how to help, but im autistic, doesnt mean i dont care.
Everyone is born with a death sentence. Some of us choose when it happens.
Every 2 hours? Jeesus. Is it really that bad? You almost never hear of it on mainstream media.
It is indeed... in the UK alone.
thats because mens issues are never taken seriously because were supposed to be tough and emotionless care givers. fuck our society
Of course you don't no one cares about men. Where have you been for the last 100 years?
dan taylor
I guess I really was under a rock. I had no idea, I did a bit research and found that these suicides don`t include deaths of under 14 who also commit suicide, which is even weirder.
DARK EMPEROR weirder? What exactly do they have to be happy about? Inheriting a planet with dwindling resources and a ruling elite class that aren't doing anything to address the issue? Almost as if no one gives a shit about them isn't it?
As men, we are never good enough. We're put under a microscope. We don't look a certain way, we don't have a certain job, we don't make enough money, whatever the case is. We do so much for our loved ones, but often we're told it's not enough. The pressures from work, from home, from daily life in in general compounds on us, it gets harder and harder to fight, to find a will to keep going. Men are viewed as disposable. Believe me, I feel all these, I have teetered on the edge of life and death numours times... About a month ago, I almost ended it all...
You are so right.
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@awkc, What gave you hope? Cos I really need to talk to you.
@@gokeogunremi7575 Really nothing gives me hope I don't believe in "good" any more.
@@awkc63 I think I understand what you mean. Forgive me if I’m wrong but this world sadly does not treat you well cos you are good, nor put a lens of judgement on you for being bad - good and bad happens to all alike. God, and I hope you believe in Him, is the reason you are still alive and moving on regardless He actually loves you and really wants you to know Him. I don’t have all the answers but this one I know - He does.
Feeling like it’s all over on a daily basis. Tired of waking up and going through the same shit everyday it’s soooooo exhausting
I'm from the construction line of work, in the last 15 months i have lost 10 of my work friends out of a group of 30 men to suicide. My opinion, stress with the fact men don't open up about suicide hold our emtions inside is a cocktail to suicide. Last month i came into work finding a work friend hanging from a scaffolding by his neck, he took his life. No one talked about it we just carried on working they just removed his body from the scaffolding like a lump of meat and said ok boys carry on working. Men have become disposable.
So sorry to hear that. Thoughts are with you. I know the construction industry is highly at risk, and something I'm hoping to tackle.
I think because the wage is low and they feel like there is no future. 10 people out of 30 is high :(
Construction is terrible work
That's just wow WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN...
It's because of court laws, black pill, gynocentricism
How am I supposed to lived in a world that doesn't appreciate my manhood? Whenever I express anything honest, I am "masnsplaing " or "toxic masculinity "
Divine Jacob Mathew yeah all the people in the world should worship your manhood 😂
I say "Fuck em" if they don't appreciate me, like me, look or talk to me. I've lived a blessed life, had tons of women, been to beautiful places, and done what I have wanted (as long as it doesn't involve much money)to. I've lived it and now my body feels it, I'm ready, the creamation is already paid for and I'm fine. Life is short enough so don't ever let anyone help decide your fate and bring you down. Your world can go from shit to heaven in a second, it's happened to me every time Ive decided to keep the finger off the trigger just one more day.
@Billy Herrington incel
If you are explaining a subject, maybe how turbochargers works or how fast M-60 machine gone fire, to some female who does not know much about the subject, that would hardly be a use of the trendy idiotic concept “mansplaining”.
try not to think like that, that way of thinking is poisonous and something I imagine that has been forced onto you, take a bit of selfish pride and stick with your gut in situations like that, I'm not saying be a total dick or anything but your life is about you mate, don't let someone elses skewed way of thinking mess with you
As a person that struggles with suicidal ideation what I personally want is a hug. It sounds dumb because a hug is small. Hug your depressed loved one everyday and as often as possible
My favourite is when ppl say it’s best to “talk about it”. Thus does nothing; no change, nothing better, just basic responses, or having a therapist repeating the same thing your saying back to you.
It's because that industry in ran by women. It's an industry about saying kots and doing nothing.
Hearing this makes me even angry nowadays, they don't and can't understand nothing. Like you said talking doesn't change anything, doesn't make you less lonely or solve any problem. Same with their bullshit pharma drugs but yeah it's a multi billion dollar industry which want to make profit not solving problems and helping peoples. If they solve their problems (or really help them doing it) they lose a customer, so it's better for them if you keep talking and taking their drugs. Then they tell you the most important thing is to work again but of course so they can "monetize" you twice. One time as a pharma customer and one time as a tax slave.
Best form of therapy l know is talking to yourself or get your own journal
I'm 20 years old, never had a girlfriend, was a loser in middle school and in high school. I work a lot and I just feel like my life has no sense of direction. The person I fell in love with doesn't have the same feelings for me and it's happened to me 6 times, I think I'm just gonna end it soon
Are you ok there?
rip brother. i hope you find peace somewhere, somehow...
Not yet man.
I' m sorry you have been dealt such a draining hand. It must have been one heck of a learning experience though?
Look at life through a 🐝 eyes
My wife is divorcing me after 12 years of marriage, after alimony and child support here in the bay area what quality of life would i get in this gender biased court system. Id rather die than me ex wife milking me. If she does not respect our marriage vows hopefully shell have the decency not to milk me dry. Id rather die than having her use me as a second income.
+Jr Arevalo You'll need to speak with your wife and create some common ground. My video on worry may help your situation too, you can find it in my channel. I hope everything works out, stay positive and I'm an email away.
In the U.S., there are some cases where the kids live with their fathers and visit their moms. Most kids WANT to live with their dads in America because dads are easier to get along with. If the kids have a preference, perhaps they can speak out and let the judge know. I have met 4 men (I'm a woman) in the past year who all had custody of their kids. They paid no alimony as the kids lived with them full time. Just visited mom or rarely saw her because she left them. Brilliant ! And the kids were happier.
So sad, this is obviously a negative aspect of patriarchy that hurts men if men support feminism together we can get rid of patriarchy so we can truly be equal and happy
hang in there brother.....please.....
Fem Mystique Oh fuck off with that comment, you derailed this heartfelt and emotional comment with your feminist agenda why don't you show sympathy rather than trying to preach?
I'm in my late 30s, my relationship of 8 years ended in late August. It wasn't perfect, but she was my best friend and the love of my life. She said our differences were too great. My sister has a drug problem, my parents and I get along, but we aren't close. I have a good job, I own a home, I tick the surface level boxes, but the loneliness is crippling. Before my 8 year I have been deceived by many women in my life. I'm back out in the dating scene now, some hits, mostly misses, but whenever I miss it always goes back to the girl I loved for 8 years. I eat well, I'm very active and athletic still, but I cry in my car coming home from the gym at least once a week when I listen to music. I'm tired of the pain. I'm tired of the same routine without her. I'm tired of the loneliness. I just want my old life back. I've come to terms this won't happen, I need to move on with my life, but I just can't bring myself to keep doing it. People can call me a "bitch" or a "pussy" but I'm tired of trying to prove people wrong. They can call me those names and that's perfectly fine. I just want the pain to end.
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Hang in there man, truth is it's easier for them to run cause they don't love as deeply as us, my so was gone in a few days w/a new guy pregnant too by the end of the week after we were planning to get married, I was ready to eat a bullet as well, ur not a pussy.
If you're still here, that's a terrible reason to kill yourself. Get over her, you can bet she's over you. All you'll do at this point is feed her vanity and ego at the thought you killed yourself over her. You sound like you have the potential for a good life. Get on with it.
Hope you are feeling better now, I feel exactly like this right now , had some bad things happen in my life but this is the worst
Literally going thru the same thing love u fam
Y'all better find eachother and do something about it together or go for it but please stop crying about it on the internet, this really won't help you, people only laugh and judge.
I considered suicide when my finances got bad and I realized that my sexual life was over. A life of quietly spending all my time alone because I couldn't afford to do anything and my sex appeal had gone was more than I could take. I had to learn to accept the loss of these things before the suicidal thoughts faded away.
Good for you I'm at the halfway mark I'm going back too hedonism and by next year if I can afford too stay drunk and high I will if not f this .
I constantly feel extremely depressed , I find it very difficult to talk to anyone about it . I was brought up hard as a kid . I struggle everyday . I have a beautiful 2 year old son whom is my number 1 fan and my biggest love . And I need to stay strong , which is so hard . I always think about suicide. Just feels like the weight of the world on my shoulders , constant battle with myself , frustration , anger , scared . I don’t know. Hope I can manage it before it’s too late . 🙏🏽❤️
Wow 2, you have a long road ahead. Try to enjoy it while you can. The good moments are far and in between, believe me I know. But once you have a kid there's no going back, you've now condemned another soul to this dank hellscape, you have to at least be there. My kid grew up and I don't even know him, so use me as your inspiration 💫 do better than me
Try to be strong, man. Not just for your son...but for you. That's all you can do.
I know the pain. But you have great times ahead with your son. I hope you're well my friend. 🙏🏻
I sincerely hear you, but please manage it ❤️ I am a new single and young mother of 3 due to suicide.. please be there for your son 🫂
You've got a two year old son who loves you and will give you many great moments of joy, pride, and love in the coming years. If that's not enough to keep you going, what is? So many people, like me, will never know that happiness. I envy you, my friend. Your future isn't as bleak as it feels right now.
When you compare numbers for deaths in road accidents and suicide, ask youself how many road accidents could be suicide.
That's a great point!
Lots. A mans responsible to support his family. Life insurance penalizes the thought that a man may have a choice. Whether to continue supporting people who know this. And use it to their benefit. The number one reason I haven't done it, is that I worry that I will be found to be a coward. Or the insurance company will argue the true cause. I believe that a majority of fatalities in single person crashes are men. And suicide being the goal. We have all thought about it, whether we admit it or not. Twisted ideas about who we should be. Versus who adult men were trained to be. Is a large part of why. The woman we love want us to be secretly strong. And cower in public. How to see it for what it really is? Leave a relationship that has mixed feelings about men. Even if you have children. The message needs to be.... live.. not just for others .
@Evurgreen
No need to drive fast. It's easy to die at 3mph. Walking in front of a truck..
Hitting a solid wall at 100+ mpg is basically an instant death. Tons of people kill themselves with the tool most have access to for sure.
Won't be much longer for me
You ok.?
Gareth Dowling see you on the other side dude
Gareth Dowling Hey man you still around orrr?
Same
Dont. Find purpose. God/exercise/hobbies.
My dad comitted suicide just 2 nights ago . . . And the control aspect you talk about in the video makes me understand more why he did it, every control aspect was taken away by the justice system, my dad drunk a lot, he did some bad things but he wasn't a bad man, he was loved by every family member, but he couldn't take the pain anymore from being away from us . . .
I'm so sorry about your dad. Losing a loved one is very difficult. Your going to be ok and remember your never alone 💗
This is so fucked up.
Was it because your father felt alone He never really belonged in this world he never fitted in With people Relationship wasn't very strong At the end Family never really understood him
I’m sorry for your loss.
This why men go MGTOW
Im 33 years old single male with no kids. This is a very very lonely and cold place that we live in. Unless ur one of the very lucky few who has happiness, a good wife and regular sex.
To be fair, the vast majority of married men I know are not happy, so don’t feel like you’re missing out on anything.
almost 50 and never married/no family and nothing to show for my life...I hear you loud and clear. Add living in a tiny town with gossips...paradise eh?
@@robraver 34 had it all, 4 years ago i lost it all. Wife, son, work , and my motivation. And my health also but that was already going down before my 30s.
I am in tha same situation also. To be honest there are moments that do cross my mind in committing suicide. Weighing in all the pros and cons when evaluating my life situation. I just dont understand how can any guy commit suicide if they have everything. Like good job, wife, family with kids and something to look forward to in life. You would think that all that would fill the emptiness that one feels. Maybe its something that they need to look over before they do anything. Those people that have all that have a better chance in living life than the others like me I would say. It's just my opinion.
In my case to be honest, like the guy said in the video the only choose that the person that is living with pain is to choose t it'll where to continue to live life or just end it.
I would stay away from family life. It's too toxic nowadays. The dad and kids get destroyed in the process and the women gets everything and expects everyone to feel sorry for her because her marriage is over.
I could talk about it but it wouldn’t make a difference. My wife is leaving me and taking my children. She doesn’t love me anymore. How do you deal with that? 22 years wasted. I will not grow old with her. She is the only family I have. I also have a disability. I do not want to be alone.
Really, really sorry, Keyser. :( You raise a very common, dreadful issue. It's a tragedy we're not dealing with the unfair legal system that destroys men.
I too find talking to be futile. Talking changes nothing, because the numbers of deaths, divorced and levels of depression stays constant. Everything we come to love is temporary, so I'll decide when the suffering ends. I take comfort in knowing I have control of what happens till the end. I personally don't care if I'm alone when everything ends, but once it's done, you won't need to worry about anything. Good luck!
@@jharding578 Depression AND suicide rates in the US (and abroad) have been increasing for years. I'd NEVER tell anyone when it's my turn because I know we live in a culture that on the one hand makes life very hard for a lot of people, practically telling them to kill themselves, but on the other hand torturing those who want to die. I ignore the anti-suicide crap. My life, my decision. No one will ever take that from me if/when the time comes.
I hear you man. Ditto. Can you play chess?
Be strong. We came alone and will go alone. Let's not get attached to worldly things. Even this body is on rent which we have to discard one day. Do something to enrich your soul by doing yoga and meditation.
Number 1 reason is being alone and ignored by shallow women, the other is not being accepted by society.
Mario, there is strength and purpose in your heart beyond what you imagine. Wake up tomorrow and decide that, just for one day, you're going to be a positive person. Just for one day. But, you've got to put your best effort into it. When the day is over you'll realize just how powerful have a positive attitude can be. Not saying that you'll be able to do it for the entire week. But if you do this a couple of times a week, you'll slowly start discovery just how strong you are.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You don’t need their validation.
@peachie05 Excuse me?! I didnt fucking cheat on my spouse while I was deployed. She did. I dont ask for the right to vote, without being drafted. Women do. We arent teaching kids to hate one gender. They are. We arent teaching boys to rape, kill, or beat women. They are, by promoting fatherless households and supporting the rap and hip hop industry. I'll accept blame when you can find one fucking fault with what I've done, in regards to society's expectations. Go ahead you fucking asshole. Im fucking waiting! Fucking say it! Say it you goddamn puke. FUCKING SAY IT!!!!!
@@ani-xo8xr Talking about someone's grammar lol. Look at yours.
@@thinkingofaname6233 wow amazing did you go to kindergarten!? Because if you say you did I'm going to laugh
My dad took his own life 4 months ago and I have been truly struggling while dealing with it. I love my dad and he always loved me but we always had a strained relationship for different reasons many of which I put on me. For this reason when we lost him the guilt and responsibility I felt was overwhelming and still is. Listening to you talk about your experience gives me hope for me and has taught me things I did not know.
This really helped me. Well done. Thank you.
Sometimes we just can't keep going, i struggle everyday to get up and go to my full job. Lifes hard and sometimes its hard to see the reasons to keep going
We can all talk about this on UA-cam, but this tragedy and epidemic will most likely NOT be covered my the main stream media.
Agreed, share this video and let's get people talking :)
Feminist, lefty media will make sure of it.
Because the (ms) media is a load of dogshit whether they cover it or not. If they were to theyd spin it in some way to suit a specific narrative that they're selling.
Its a lack of purpose, it can be such a hard thing to find
I agree with this 100% 🙌
Derek Johnson You got that right. It’s been an on going situation for me.
I’m not suicidal, but I’m struggling to know what my purpose is. What is the point? Is there one at all??
Try learning yoga and meditation. It gives true purpose of all lives on earth.
Its not purpose. Purpose is made. Men make things. Its not because of pain, men have a higher pain tolerance than people think. Its because we are hated. We are hated for what we are. We are loved for what we do, but hated for what we are. And we are better than women. And because of that simple fact, women hate us. Women make up majority voters. Men's rights is a non issue for women until no men are left.
Suicide is a man's way of showing his discontent for society that hates him.
If man is having a breakdown he is seen weak to other men and seen as an emotional mess by women
Because he is, unfortunately.
A woman shouldn't marry a man who has mental issues anymore than a man should marry a woman with them.
A man needs to be capable of leading and raising children.
I'm so tired. The pressure, stress, anxiety, depression , pain. No one understands 😔😢😪
I get what you mean and the crazy part is that other men walk pass us everyday and could be feeling the same way and yet we aren't friends with them.
Mee too. exact words, exact order. On top of it EV ERYONE is shutting me out. Its one-way effort only to be scorned harder if I challenge somebody. Making too much sense is a curse.
WHAT HAVE MY SO-CALLED PEERS/GIRLFREINDS DONE FOR ME LATELEY??? (khm...khm...care to answer ladies?)
im almost 23 years old and i have lived alone for 5 years and i know nobody. i was an orphan and i grew up in care homes, i never got to go to school and i spent some 30 months in a young offenders institution on remand for a crime i was falsely accused of. since i got out of there 5 years ago, i havent met anyone. i havent met anyone the same age as me since i was 12 and i have never socialised or been to parties or had relationships. every day i look out of my window and i see people walking together, i see groups of 7-8 teenagers, and it is like i dagger to the heart to look at them and know that i have never even know 7 people before. i have never been part of a group. i never learned to socialise because i have never done it before. and now i have to live with the reality that there are 14 year olds who go to school, get to live at home with their parents, they socialise they party, they fuck people, they know other people the same age as them. and i will never be able to experience any of that. what is the point in being alive when i have no access to humans and no contact with anyone else? what is the point in being alive when i am almost 23 and havent lived yet?
Violence Is Fun yea, I know that
Violence Is Fun The point is that perhaps you have 50 or seventy years to keep searching and learning how to make good relationships. Blessings and peace be with you always
I understand. I read books where friends bond with deep relationships. I've never had a deep relationship with a friend, but I can forge some through fiction
Visit a small church...not a big one...also I'm praying for you. I'm your brother and you have others coming in your life. We love you. May God give you peace and may you find friends. My name is Darrell. Reply to this message. Thanks
Relatable af
I’m 25. Never had friends. Never had a gf or been intimate with a woman.
College dropout. Skill-less. Talentless. I work manual labor and still live at home.
Ive been studying for an A+ cert to enter the professional/tech field but have been told it’s a waste of time. I believe it may be true since this world is moving so fast.
Not so much socially phobic as I am awkward. I give off a serial killer vibe. I can’t conversation for the life of me. I give robotic responses that you would expect from a pre programmed animatronic. I’m so tired of myself and this situation.
Well my question to you all is, would it even be worth it to keep living? I try to stay positive but with everyone being cold towards me, no support from family, and the weight of knowing I wasted my youth is really bearing down on me too hard. I think about the supposed “better” future but I know I’m so far behind on relationship development with friends and romantic partners that it would be like a 10 year old starting life at 25.
I’m in dire need of help.
It really is worth living. You’re still young at 25, you still have time to make a life you enjoy. Never let what’s happened in the past define who you are today.
Sounds like some autistic shit
Try fasting and drinking water only for 3 months. It’s the best way to stay or go.
You need therapy and a lot of courage to turn your life around
The first thing you need to do, is go for a therapy, it may be a pain in the arse to do so, but try to do it when you're ready. The second one, if you have a faith (as in religion) start to practice it once more, go to church or wherever your religion's holy place is and start praying. Mine's not much of an advice and more of a repetition to the advices before, but believe me, with the two of those combined, you'll found that your life, no matter how low it is right now, is worth living
my brother-in-law (38) committed suicide 2 days ago and we are very devastated right now. If only I was there to talk to him or guide him, it is really difficult when you are away from your family and you have no idea on what has been going on in there lives. He was a good man, more than good tbh. He has a child that's only 5 yrs old , and that poor boy will grow up without a father. I feel deeply sorry for my sister, imagine the mental and emotional burden she's carrying at the moment 😢
Your sister is probably the reason he committed suicide, don’t pity her.
My adult son is very suicidal 😭
I want my pain to stop. I can't handle the pain and my emotions.
Thanks for posting this video. I always hate it when people say it is done for attention. All of the focus is on other groups, but men have little or no help. It is pretty awful.
That's why I never talk about my depression because people dont care because I'm Male and because they think it's for attention I asked my mom I'm depressed she said if I killed my self I will go to hell that's when I stopped talking about it
I've lost 4 close friends to suicide in the past 5 years, now after the first one we all talked about how we could stop it from happening again and we said we should be talking about it more, yet it happened another 3 times. Men talking about their feelings will not solve this issue, there are other things at play. Did men talk more about their feelings 50 years ago when they killed themselves in much smaller numbers? Did they fuck. The problem, I believe, is rooted in the culture of "I don't need no man!", the constant demonisation of men and hostility towards masculinity (from pre-school age), feminist bullshit that essentially makes men feel useless, unwanted, unloved and alone.
andybytheway thats how I feel, feel like no one needs me, that I have no purpose so whats the point
andybytheway I think you're correct. Our culture is changing and it's having a detrimental affect on men. Women don't need men anymore. They can support themselves especially with the help of child support. They don't need a man. If they need physical love women can get that easily with no strings attached.
Life has no purpose for a man if he's not needed. What's the point in living if all you do is go to work and come home to an empty house. Loneliness and solitude will eventually break a man.
Even the Bible says "it's not good that man should be alone." And, "he who finds a wife finds a good thing."
We both need each other. At my workplace I notice some women are really good at picking up how others feel, if they are sleeping properly etc. I think we also need the nuclear family and equal balance of roles, I don't think a housewife is actually bad since a child needs attention and quality is better than quantity. We can't do everything on our own. There are women who can do stereotypically male stuff and vice versa. I think the problem with modern society is that it is too self oriented and doesn't focus on the big picture of how things work.
No one answers my question: Why do men, half the population, sit back and ALLOW this??
xhemexx I really wish they would face judgement after death, but I don't believe in religion. Life simply goes on, like nothing really happened. I tried 4 times to end my suffering, and life simply went on. I can either obtain my own karma by hurting those who have hurt me, or I can just ignore everything and simply vanish after death. Tough decisions
Because the average man never feels wanted and appreciated and when a man have problem and show his problem tend to be rejected and replaced.. The standard man for an average or even a ugly girl is high we must to be a the top of every aspect good look, good social status, good dick, brilliant mind, must be strong, never need help, we MUST a lot of things...
Dont forget tall
@@JafrinKhan-gu5fm I'm guessing you only date men who make 6 figures and live in the most classiest of housing departments, correct?
@@JafrinKhan-gu5fm I bet you're one of the dumbasses too he was being real there
I know the topic is about men, but i could include those to women as well... its just doesnt actually make sense.. because women has to be best on many aspects too in order to have better life, unlike men they are even being shamed for their body and has to be modest, i could call it as discrimination towards women, this could lead to low selfesteem, cmon even their toplessness being age restricted and censored on social media or shamed in outside, while men even he is be naked is fine, such a nice free life for a man which men dont value in my opinion, i feel like they just too spoiled. Ofcourse also depends on which country people live because some countries just dont give women so much rights as in west, in this case men are expeted to work as a horse what also can increase suicide rate of men. Also maybe by nature men are way too brave than women to get rid of their own life. So i still wonder why men are suicidal more than women..
@@Anonim-bl1et Because men are shamed and taught to repress their "unmanly" emotions from very early age..vulnerability in men is despisd not least by women plus women normally have a much better support network of family and friends plus the welfare system will always prioritise the single woman above the single man ..you hear a lot about depression etc in women which is real and terrible most men only talk about it as a last resort..plus men rarely get custody of children
Your eyes reveal how hard this was for you to make this video. Your very brave. Thank you.
More was expected of me than I could produce. We are products - human resources. I was enjoyed as long as I produced.
too fucking right mate, I'm sure you can relate to this, woman are with you until they realise you're not some possession but a human being with wants and needs and emotions just like everybody else and suddenly they're not so interested, I'm not saying all women are like this but I've had my fair share
The Hypest no you are right. AWALT
I'm actually getting happy now when women reject me. I feel like I dodge a bullet everyon every time.
Thank you for this video. You’re spot on with your understanding of the pain. The pain can be so bad that it’s even more painful than the thoughts of leaving your children and how it will affect them.
first time i thought of suicide i was 9 yrs old. Im 53 and have attempted it a few times. Opening up with years of abuse and being in trouble, broke relationships, just loss loss loss. People try to understand its a state of mind. I just want to stop the pain within. I have a care worker, but ive hit that low point. Enough is enough. I know its just a matter of time now, i will suceed in taking my life. You have hit it on the nail about the pain. Cant cope anymore. I am at peace with taking my life. Im not selfish, im broken, and some things cant be fixed.
Hey man? Wondering if your still around? I wanna talk !!!
I hope you're still with us earthbound strugglers!
Where there's life there IS hope.
Broken will never look new.
But broken CAN be mended, like a vase fallen, broken and patched up! Maybe a few pieces are missing. It will never hold water. But you CAN put a candle inside it, put a flame, and watch the brightness flicker out of the cracks and holes! Watch the light bounce around on the surface of the ground in lovely patterns!
So what there are no flowers!
Show us your extravagant wounds!
They have PURPOSE!
RIP
My adult son feels lost and hopeless and suicidal and I'm mortified all day, I wake up and cry, then wake up worrying all day again. I feel so helpless. I bet your mom is suffering over you as well. ❤
I was having suicidal thoughts this past night.
If youtube wasn't there, and you weren't here, I don't know what would've happened.
But you gave me the insight to realize that I'm not a weak man thinking about this issue.
I don't know how it'll last but I want to make it my mission to think talk and do something about suicide everyday till I die.
I hope to go around one day to a person who was having similar thoughts as me and offer the same wisdom you offered me.
That "hey, it's okay. I have suicidal thoughts on a daily basis. Let's talk about it. you're not alone. Maybe one more day." Thank you and god bless.
Suicide is caused by mental anguish, associated deeply with women. I know from personal experience. In 1995, my brother killed himself due to several tragic occurences, but ultimately connected to the evil actions of his former wife - a woman.
MGTOW Mediator he should have been aborted by his mother - a woman
@@labradorkill7280 wow that's a fucked up thing to say. What the hell?
MGTOW Mediator so everyone else is responsible for your actions except you?
ennui blue everyone is responsible for their actions. And if your actions cause someone else enough pain to kill themselves then you are responsible for their death. Fuck off with that shit!
Why do guys ALLOW this? Men are half the population.
No disrespect to anyone, but one thing I have a hard time understanding is how a man who is married to a loving wife and children can feel suicidal? I'm 43 and single. I've never been married and it's torment. It just seems like a man who is actually loved in this world has so much to live for. Life will never be perfect, but at least you've got people who love you. At least you have a wife to come home to and love, embrace, talk to, and wake up to every morning. That's a BLESSING!
I have such a hard time understanding why those men would choose to end their life. I can see why guys like me or divorced men would end their life. Hopelessness.
Ace Goodheart Maybe the grass always seems to be greener on the other side of the fence
Loneliness is a dreadful feeling but maybe single people (men) do not realise that they are loved more than they can imagine. The old fashioned idea that being loved means having sex is the cause of the problem?
Spoiler alert love doesn’t exist, it’s just pure bullshit they’ve told you since you were born.
George Alderson No, if a female says she loves me (as a partner) then she should give me some sex or else we’re going nowhere, however I get what you mean by the other type of love from family and friends, also I wish no man have to go through life with the horrible notion in the back of their minds that they’ve never had sex.
@@user-kn2qk8ly8c Maybe we (men) could find out from our woman who love each other why we are not having sex if sex is imprtant in the relationship and work togethether towards it or around it.
@@user-kn2qk8ly8c Daaaaaaaaaamn. But I feel ya.
Pushed the only woman that cared away. Pushed friends away. Scared as hell. Every time I open up it hurts the ones I love. Now I’m lost and hopeless.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for having the courage to make this video. My husband walked in front of a train 6 months ago. Everything you spoke about I can relate to. You’re a very brave young man and your understanding of this subject is spot on. The pain for us survivors is also horrific. I would like someone to talk to about this who understands suicide as it’s a type of different death.
Thank you for watching. I’m so sorry to hear about your husband, I post a lot more videos and content around mental health on my Facebook page which hopefully might help too. Bereavement by suicide is hard to deal with but you’re not alone going through this :)
See it’s about you it’s not about the person who feels unwanted alone un loved again it’s about what hell you can get for living with suicide I lost fiancée to suicide but I don’t go asking for help for it as it did no good but again a woman not thinking about us men but thinking how she geeks what you want what you need what you think you deserve again it’s put the woman first and man behind dog, men last again let’s put this woman first get her wants sorted out has to have her wants done us men don’t stand a fucking chance we’ll all be gone before king I see a future where it’s going to be 10% male if that and 90% female living in this planet especially UK and America I lost a fiancé of 7 years to suicide I’m not asking for help I’m actually reading comments to see if there’s folk out there like me who I can actually help in some way any way before I go out God took two lives from me, my fiancé then a wife of 10 years to cancer but again yes put us last I’d love to see world from heaven above looking down when population is 5% male 95% female what then because that’s direction it’s going more females are being born than men in new study and it’s up.90% males for suicide now fucking hate this selfish world Iv always always put others first look where got me s as bd now a woman coming on asking for her needs and wants met
@@christianlennon714 she was thanking him for the video and you use it to write some crazy a** essay condemning her? You got some damn nerve
I'm planning my way out also
@@cyrilsneer5957 Cyril, your very name means "Lordly". It connotes "Great Spiritual Potential"
We in this society NEED what God has created YOU to do for us, and through us, for Him.
Please, don't throw YOU away.
No one cares?
Though I don't know you, I DO!
YES, I DO
Hey Paul, thanks for posting this video, my dad also took his life a few years back. It's nice to see more and more people spreading awareness these days.
+jake fricke Thanks Jake and sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad. Anything you need feel free to reach out.
My friend Aaron took his life 2 weeks ago, the sadness and loss is overwhelming
+Dinoo D. I'm so sorry to hear that. Stay strong
I’m sorry to hear about that. I lost my friend 4 years ago when I was a softmore in highschool. Now, an hour ago, I found out a childhood friend of mine shot himself in the head. Life is hard. But we gotta all stick together and count our blessings, and not take moments spent with your people from granted. I hope all is good on your side brouther.
@@PaulMcGregorVideos thank you 🙏🏼
@@ryancovelski850 very sorry to hear that’s devastating… for me diving deeper into spiritual (whatever one beloved in) was instrumental in finding comfort ..
@@BreatheWithDinoo It makes sense thankyou for your condolences. 😥
I am so proud of you for allowing yourself this process to grieve the death of your father's suicide and to have the courage to share your process. I believe it will help so many. Your voice is strong and what a beautiful way to honor your father.
society just treats men very badly
We’re disposable.
Thank you so much for recognizing that
We men are wretched things.....Brad Pitt from the movie troy
Shut the fuck up
Pink Gal are you mad because you're seeing the truth?
Thank you for turning this nightmare scenario into a positive Paul and reaching others with your story.
All men want is honor and respect. Neither of which I receive.
Same here . I just got stabed in the back. And abused
Your a brave person to openly talk about suicide and I deeply sorry you lost your Dad . It the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about suicide. It one of the hardest griefs to deal with . It is the just been the second anverisary of my Brother taking his life . I am grateful for you talking and sharing about your pain and showing your strength . Keep up the great work you are doing . God Bless you .
My friend took his life,he was always depressed and talking about it.I talked him out of it numerous times, but this time I couldn't.
Sorry for your loss.
He saved himself.
this is a nice video.i've found my dad at the attic 11 months ago.still don't know how to deal with it.besidess the fact he knew i was the first one to find him.he knew i would but didn't stop him from doing it.many questions rushing trough my head when i think about it but most of them will never be answered.
thx for sharing your story
i'm sorry for your loss.keep up the good work.
+Rob Scheerens thank you for sharing yours, try and focus on getting the help you deserve
Rob, hoping you're coping and o.k.
Please don't drive yourself crazy looking for reasons why things played out as they did and if you can forgive and release your Dad I think it might be best. God Bless 🙏 Guy, Be Well !
Found my best friend hanging from attic
I'm 34 and the only way people know if I exist if I go to them. Had a gf and she made me feel worse than I ever did while I was single. Done things right but still not good enough. My dog died and I just really cant no more. I lost a past job to taking medication for depression so seeking help is not the answer. Talking to someone that gets paid to talk to you makes me feel even more down. My dad has never told me good job or hes proud of me. I hurt every day.life sucks and would be a better place without me
MrRican4207 what was up with the girl friend?
Man, I feel for you. I have four older brothers. I WORSHIP them. I'd die for my brothers as the only girl. What you've shared, I can't wrap my mind around experiencing day after day. I wish I could take your pain away.
Hey, you're probably right, but the world doesn't care. The earth will keep rotating around its axis after our deaths, and I only hope someone would be affected. I cared way too much for other people, their suffering and personal problems that I broke. I never had a Girlfriend or pet, but I know how shitty you felt. It's honestly moments like these that I wish God existed, a supernatural force that could theoretically relieve us of our pains. I now don't care to much about others problems because the answer is simple: death. It's nothing to be scared or ashamed of. I stopped caring about what others think or expect, because I am now in control. You will ALWAYS run into dilemmas; you can either continuing suffering and hoping you can solve the problem logically, or you can find happiness in ending it all. I chose the latter. Good luck!
Insert basic “don’t do it we love you” response
Male friend: *how are you* *?*
What men should say: *I'm struggling and i don't know who to talk to*
What men say because because they have been told all their lives not to show emotions: *I'm good*
Real
A more insightful answer would also be : whether I'm good or not, there's nothing you'll do to change it, so it doesn't matter.
This lad's openness and strength are admirable. I hope he finds peace and happiness.
For a man to admit that he is depressed, hopeless and suicidal, is to admit that he is a failure at life. This is too humiliating and shameful for most men to admit, and so they dont seek help. Depressed men regret the past, they feel uncomfortable and unhappy in the present moment, and they fear that the future will be progressively worse. A wrong attitude toward life, a lack of meaning and the absense of a vision of a positive, compelling future, are a very bad combination.
My uncle took his own life when he was 28 years old. I never understood why he did it when I was younger, but now I’m that age I fully understand. They say a man dies on the inside in his mid twenties. Many of us live the same day over and over again to get 1 or 2 days off and then the cycle repeats. It’s hard to have a positive outlook on life when we all feel like we’re stuck inside the Matrix
It’s a hard long fight especially when you are alone. Depending on how you grow up, and what you’re going through today and vary. Going through my bs, trying to cope, it seems like I do the weirdest things just to try to get though it everyday, weather it’s sleeping longer hours, alcohol, driving for the heck of it or sleeping outside in the middle of nowhere. The hardest thing in the world is talking to someone, because the bottle is the easy thing to turn too when you have no one.
Much love brother, thanks a lot for doing this, I'm personally dealing with it right now.
Being short and from a poor dysfunctional without the gift of bliss from ignorance. So I can see how bad it is but have no choice to change anything.
Why is life so hard and dying is so easy 🤔
I’m sorry to hear about your father. Based on me talking to other people and them telling me this is just a temporary thing yadda yadda yadda, I’m telling you that there was nothing you could do for your dad, except force him to continue to endure for everyone else’s peace of mind.
Sounds like he put a really honest and solid life effort to getting to the bottom of his issues with his education and everything else.
I can relate. I’m 43. Been kicking this can down the road a really long time now.
I’m sorry for your loss. It’s not easy on anyone involved.
From a person on the edge: it's because life cannot fulfill our expectations, plain and simple. Other people mostly talk trash to you, and forget we are here only once.
Thank you so much for sharing. Very courageous of you. I can't even imagine what it's like to have a parent pass from suicide. I have had 4 people pass in front of me and one in my arms, but never by suicide. It hurts like hell,but still you are very brave sharing this my friend
ebaymamaqueen sorry to hear that and thanks for the kind words! :)
@@PaulMcGregorVideos thanks for the great video
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and taking a stand to have a voice about such an important issue. My husband recently lost his life to suicide, leaving 2 children and myself behind. Mental health is a major crisis in our world and needs a ton of attention in order to create some change.
Seems like you really care, don't you?
NICE FAKE SMILE!!
I am so sorry for you
Luckily I don't have a child with my last husband, actually I only ask for a divorce and how we can arrange this financially and with our house.
It would have been difficult, but then he hanged himself
My father committed suicide in the 90s. Now it's my turn. I'm lost, broken and broke. I'm alone and unloved so I want it to end. I have had enough of the fear and I'm done with this world.
Because life is too expensive
if a man cries at work we think "did his family die?" if a woman cries at work we think "must have been dumped".
Trinexx007 she deserves better than a shithead
It’s funny though, I’ve always known men to take dumping harder.
@@007Fusiion nobody takes dumping easily
The hardest thing for people accept about suicide is that it might be the right thing to do in some cases...depends on the degree of misery one is in and if one has the genetic endowment to live a fulfilling life...
Exactly, sometimes suicide is the only way
I'm so sorry mate for your loss and your pain. It's heartbreaking of the pain suffered by you as the child of a parent the chose to suicide. You should never have had to go through this. My heart truly goes out to you. Your courage to make this video is truly inspiring.
Bless you for your frankness, courage and sharing your experience..
Us men really have no one to lean on when we need help . we cant talk to other men and woman will think we wear for talking about our feelings and if we do talk about it they throw it in our face down that road.
@@opaloakley sweet summer child you need to learn more about women.
@@HIDHIFDB I am a woman.
This is just one reason.
@nice try167 Ok Karen
Many women and many men too do not think so. Find a good support circle which respects you dear. Traditional values failed men.
Im going on 31. I can't stand what modern society is like and all my plans to change how i live and try and get away from it etc just will take a few years or so and the thing is im TIRED OF LIFE BEING WORK. The things that are free(which i have realized i have a deep hatred for currency)- arent the things that anyone seems to focus on. All I can hope is that the next realm is better. Or that its nothing.
I went and got what I needed after my brother stealing my 9mm(which hes so dumb for doing) anyways got my a 12g.
I'm checking out out in probably a week. I'm tired of people trying to justify living. Im thinkin I'll drive to the grand canyon and shoot myself while i look at the sunset.
You still here?
He gone
Eh, I'm pretty tired. Think I'll go home soon.
Sorry for your loss brother, great video so true what your saying i have battled with this myself.
Great video- I have heard alcoholics say depression is anger you haven't dealt with- that it needs to be lived out in a non-destructive way- so often we live out the 'pain of the past' by drinking too much, sex, drugs, junk food etc- but I think there's a lot you can do to help yourself- going to a safe place to scream and shout, to break a jam jar, take a hatchet and chop wood even if the mind at that moment in time doesn't know what to do the body is living out that unresolved anger- talking to someone as well, when we say things out loud they take on a greater power. Being attentive, counting your footsteps, getting out into nature- they sound small, but its the small things that help to get people well.
these do help but its a bandage that comes off eventually and the wound is much bigger
Thank you 🙏 once you convince yourself it’s the only option , it’s extremely difficult to think of anything else … facing financial ruin with lack of prospects at a certain age is a dark rabbit hole to be sure
Thanks for sharing your story. Sorry for your loss. We do need to create more spaces for men to talk about stress, emotions and despair.
Wow!! It’s taken me weeks to watch this in its entirety. You, Paul, are one brave, courageous, insert adjective here, man. I would say how excruciating it must have been to do this piece but I can see it all over your face. Seeing your face and the reaction this video has given me, I don’t know? I’m having trouble conjuring up the proper words? I’m an old, older Cat with two young daughters of my own and these past few years living without them has hastened my downward spiral but since watching this, I’ve realized that I do in fact care. I never want to cause the pain you’ve endured and will continue to endure, to some extent,the rest of your life, in one way or another. I cannot do this to them and I feel terrible writing this because it seems so morbid thinking/typing how your unimaginable sorrow could ever be a good thing. You do know what I mean by saying good? You experience is not a good one. Will never be good, so I hope you understand what I’m so terribly trying to say, right? But damn, Paul, it’s been seven years and it pains me, to see your pain, seven years out. I can’t do this to them. I know I’m probably rambling and I hope being somewhat coherent but I can’t stop myself from typing. Now, after finally being able to watch this production completely, I’m hoping my wellness will improve because in your face, I can see my daughters faces. That has made me reflect & realize just how selfish I would be to inflict this type of pain on them(my girls)and leaving them scarred. I know a scar is proof a wound has healed, which means, it(whatever wound), will/has gotten better. I just can’t do this to my daughters, or anybody else that loves me. I’m going to find a way persevere. This I promise. Will I succeed? How the hell can I say yes or no? All I am certain of, is the desire to get through this now. I have to keep telling myself that suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem and that this, is indeed, a temporary problem. If I didn’t care what people will look, see, or do, if I ask for help, I would but for some stupid reason, I won’t. Hopefully I can get through this alone and will find a way to change the sad to glad? Again, I apologize for the rant and thank you for whatever time out of your busy day you’ve wasted reading this, if you read this. I’m not sure if any of this diatribe has made sense and if it hasn’t, I apologize again but I felt compelled to say/type something. Lastly, you, Paul, are a a brave man. I’m sure you’ve had to relive quite a bit of your horrific tragedy while filming this but I am so grateful you did it. Watching this has helped me out tremendously. I am so sorry for the loss of your father. The respect you’ve earned from me for caring about all of us enough to relive your past, in hopes of helping others, is infinite. I will not, cannot respect someone more than I respect you, Paul. That is genuine and couldn’t be more sincere.
Thanks for your time,
StevenKeith
Steven, a huge thank you for your honesty in your comment. I truly appreciate you watching, sharing and even sharing some appreciation of the video. You're not alone, and things can get better. I hope you never forget that.
I'm so sorry about your dad.Wish you the best!!!
Someone needs to talk about the Titanic syndrome, because that’s about how I feel at the moment. The world does not give a fuck about men and the feeling is becoming mutual
I have no friends, every time I try to talk to people, people act like I'm invisible, nobody wants to hang out, everybody is too busy to do anything outside their lives. The only thing that prevents me from killing myself is my fear of surviving, I know how strong the human body is, and I don't want to become a vegetable, or handicapped and make my life worse
🖤 pleased to see your still with us Paul
so sorry about your father----and can hear the horror of the pain and anger that that has caused------my mother commited suicide when i was a baby -----i have been suicidal all my life and wonder why people dont want to commit suicide -----this world is evil and dark --
totally agree
The thought of living another sixty years is horrifying to me.
Why?
@@Lisme438 I can't speak for him, but I will say that as someone who has never so much as hugged a woman at age 35, the thought of going to work every day and coming home to nothing for many many more decades is more mortifying to me than the thought of killing myself.
Thank you for the very genuine video. This is a problem that very few in this world want to acknowledge.
Your a hero mate Having the courage to talk openly about this. Your amazing. Thank you