Good tips! One thing I’ll add is to look through your pack every now and then to see if there’s anything you really don’t need, but just haul around out of habit. I was going through my daypack once and found a fist sized rock in the very bottom of it, underneath my first aid kit. Parts of it had a glass-like polish from being in there so long. My son had collected it once during a hike; we put it in the pack and promptly forgot about it. I lugged that thing around for 3 years. I just weighed it out of curiosity. 357 grams/12.62 oz.
When I first starting hiking after a 25 year hiatus, I basically didn't stop to think that I was no longer the ex-college athlete who could carry over 1/3rd his body weight in a pack. (Seriously, when I was 21 I went on a 117 mile hike, body weight 145, pack weight 55 lbs.) So in my late 40s I was out hiking with friends and relatives and I herniated a disk (had a 40+ lb. backpack.) While waiting for one of us to go get the car, we took an inventory of my pack. I had a key ring.. yes a frickin' key ring, with so many rings on it I looked like a high school janitor. It weighed 1.5 pounds all on its own. It was just what I normally had with me so I tossed it into the top of the pack after we parked the car. Just habit. No thought. The rest of my inventory was just as bad - useless stuff or too heavy. Now while I don't subscribe to going overboard on ultralight (it can get out of hand also) at least now I can go for an extended trip with a starting pack weight around 27 pounds (all in, 7 days of food, water, everything) and even that is because I tend to carry a lot of water (having run out once in a desert, I'm now paranoid. about it.) Now at 62, the lighter weight is important.
At 60 I just went on my first non-car camping trip. My pack weighed 18kg (40lb) and other than the 3kg+ of booze, I thought I had it paired down to just the essentials. So even without the necessary liquid refreshment, at 15kg (33kg) I wonder how people boast about 4kg (9lb) base loads! My pack is nearly half of that alone!
How do I you do it my pack hits 50 lbs not including a gun on my thigh. I take bear spray too. Tent, sleeping bag and pad, dehydrated cook in bag meals. I’ve bought good gear not junk but also not top of the line ultralight stuff.
I carry a sharpie and mark my fuel canister every time I boil water. When I get up to 10-12 boils on a can it goes into the car camping bin. I can typically get 15-18 boils on a canister though.
Motorep146 great idea! Is this for the large fuel canister or the 4 ounce? And what kind of stove are you using this always worries me that I’m gonna run out of fuel🤷🏻♀️
@@kimrobb1965 Yes, that's for the 4 ounce MSR cans. I use an Olicamp Ion Micro ti stove and setup with a decent wind break. Most of my trips are 2-5 days and a can will easily last coffee, oatmeal, and dinners during that time. If my wife is going on anything more than a 2 day trip she carries her own stove and fuel.
Yep same here. I consistently get 13 boils from a sterno 100g can. I just carry an extra if I'm gonna need more than what's in a can and I'll run out the partial.
@@ModernGentleman That's what I buy - but I've been refilling my older small MSR cans. I carry a 100g fuel can along with a Bushbuddy UL which only weighs 130-ish grams (e.g. about 2/3 the weight of a full fuel can) and cook with it whenever I can. I like fire and wood fuel is free. (obviously this doesn't work for a lot of trails but where I go it usually does)
A great thing to do if you have a stubborn knot, use the cork screw on your Swiss Army knife, screw it into the knot and loosen it using the cork screw. It works great!
rolfdenver I decided to do that and took a few months to lose a little over 2 stones. It has made a difference and I can now happily carry more weight in my pack too. Losing pounds in body weight is even more important than trimming ounces from your pack weight.
I have been sifting through so much information preparing for my first solo backpacking trip and your channel is a breath of fresh air! I am introduced to new gear and practical ideas without being force fed the same overly expensive brands I see all over the place. Excellent content, very helpful for a first timer! ❤️
The pre-packed meals Dan refers to are good...expensive and take up a lot of bag space. Make up your own dried meals ready to apply to boiling water, and pack in freezer baggies. Just as good, much cheaper !
I've also noticed that these scales offer more precision in metric than imperial for whatever reason. I mean it's the same scale..... why can't it do 0.6 or .8 once ? Not advocating for imperial or anything but that is just strange to me.
Concerning the fuel canister, i always bring two of the small ones. One is from the previous trip and is used until it's out of fuel, then i have a fresh one. Also having two provides a backup in-case of failure also.
I've done that in the past, not trusting the partially-full one to last. Sometimes it does, sometimes it's a damned good thing I had a full canister on hand.
Sounds like a good plan. I think it's difficult to know how long a already used one is going to get you... On the other hand, when you run out of fuel, cold soak might be an option. No? 😁
Same. Though 2 day trips are usually car camping trips. 7 to 10 days trips are back country and canoeing and we bring bigger canisters, but cook a lot on the fire if there's no fire ban.
Just found your channel by an off chance. I am recently out of the Army (33 years) and getting to reconnect with the outdoors like I was before I joined. So I am currently using my leftover military gear. I find the preoccupation with weight kind of funny with backpackers telling me my gear is too heavy, or just hazing me for using military gear. As I outdistance and outpace them in their ultralight packs. Granted as I get further along I will probably get some civilian gear. But in the meantime, I enjoy your outlook and humor on your videos, just subscribed.
my ILBE will forever be my go to bag. even if i generally only use a third of the space, it carries the load so well its amazing. after more than a decade of use i couldnt imagine replacing it.
The thing is weight is weight. More weight = more energy expenditure and stress on the body regardless of how you get through it. With so many years in, I imagine you developed a relatively high level of discipline, skills, and ability to adapt. Not sure of the level of backpackers you're really comparing to, but if you're outpacing ultralight people with a much heavier haul, then that would be amplified with a reduced haul. As a vet myself, another thing we learned is how to make due with less. Generally ultralight gear is meant to be both fairly reliable and lighter weight -- the downside often being cost. I'd consider myself just 'light' packer since I like to have a little bit of added luxury available, but it's definitely nice to get out there with a bag under 15-20lb at times compared to 40-50lb rucking with unnecessary bulk.
I still use some of my old army kit but am slowly replacing it with better stuff. I'm 60 now and shake my head at how much stuff we used to carry. Then you see vids with guys complaining about their pack... not a single round of ammo or a spare radio battery amongst the lot of them, hahahaha
Military gear might be heavy sometimes, but it's also extremely durable. Sometimes it's worth the extra weight just so you don't have to think too much about being careful with all your stuff
Great video ! As for the knife, I recently changed my backpacking knife for the Opinel n°8. 45g French made foldable knife with locking mechanism. Great and light and cheap option (at least here in France). Keep up with the good work! Hi from France
All your ideas are great! The best pack solution (for me) is a detailed pack list, describes what’s in each ditty bag, choice of cook gear set ups, which sleep system for different weather expectations, clothing set ups, etc . This way I don’t forget anything important, and don’t toss in those seemingly light weight “just in case, why not” that add up so fast. Last pack update included 3x Imodium and bring a survival blanket (the cheap Mylar kind) for other less prepared day hikers. I’m not giving up my down bag if your too dumb to bring a sweater, but I will front you a $1.99 survival blanket 😉
Hi there Holly, I'm guessing that Hopalong refers to a walking impairment. I can only admire your fortitude, in your continuance of your hiking and trekking pastime. I have one good leg and one good arm (brain damage) but get about in a comically shambolic way dragged along by my large and enthusiastic dog. My preps, or lack thereof epitomise that of the (very) casual, hap-hazard slack-packer, I'm in awe of your precision in the organisation of your packing protocols. May I kindly suggest that you adopt "Spreadsheet" as your trail name. I yearn with the utmost longing for a tent-wench like you, a paragon of efficiency, a godess of neat to bring serenity and certainty to the random adventures of my outdoor life. Trouble is we are on opposite sides of the pond, but I promise to think of you as my icon of perfection, next time a sudden and impromptu jaunt descends into a chaotic disaster, rooted as always in my hope for the best, mindset. No one can begin to imagine the immense joy I experience when, having laid the foundations for another monumental fk-up, nothing goes pear shaped, and all goes well. Will I ever learn? Probably not ! Atb to you dear lady, stay safe and enjoy as many of those wonderful trails you have as you can. God bless.
Fuel specifically, being a consumable, has a different kind of economy to consider: where I shop a 100g canister costs £5, whereas a 230g canister is only £7 - that's more than double the fuel (and therefore more than double the duration of use) for less than 50% extra cost price. I can swallow the weight penalty, at that value.
Camping with buddies ? One carries the bigger fuel canister, the other a stove. SHARE, as they taught us in pre-school, make both packs lighter. 1st aid kit ? You don't need two. Water purifier ? Pack one & s h a r e !
Only place local to me to sell these things I know if is Walmart and they don’t sell the smallest size. The slightly bigger size is what they have. To go to REI is about an hour long trip and for fuel canisters it’s not worth it.
The underappreciated aspect of the watermelon is the dual function portable water closet when carved out properly and if you add straps sky's the limit and the best part it's literally green
I bring some extra toys because it keeps me entertained, and part of the reason I backpack is for the exercise. So I’m not afraid to carry 35 lbs of gear and food. I’m not a small guy. It’s different for everyone.
Love that little Victorinox multitool, I've had one on my car keys for about 7 years, moved house twice and unpacked all the boxes with it. I would say I use the tool at least once a day, couldn't live without it!
Thanks for the great tips, Dan! I know I tend to take too much in the way of light sources (including batteries) because I'm a caver too and always stress out if I run out of batteries. I'm packing now for my first backpacking trip this year with a lighter weight in mind for my pack. I got the NEMO Chair Zero which shaved 1 lb. off my original camp stool. I also just purchased the NEMO Dragonfly 2P tent to save me several more lbs. I'm not an ultralight backpacker but being a senior with a bad back, I do have to weigh (literally) the difference between comfort and carrying weight.
Mora companion. 4 inch blade, super sturdy, 4 oz. Weighs less than that big swiss army knife, and does more for you if your really in trouble. Because a knife is like a condom. Rather have a good one and not need it than need it and not have it.
I have an older Mora, wooden handle, also weighs maybe 2/3 of the big swiss army, but bigger blade. Helps especially as many of the hikes I do I can build fires.
One area where newbs (like this one) can trim weight is the med kit and toiletries you bring along for a weekend trip. I started out with two-thirds of my medicine cabinet in several zip locks.
These are all great tips, Dan. I'm one of those guys who tends to over pack, especially when it comes to tools. Always a proponent for the right tool to properly accomplish a task, I carry an Emerson chest pack. I could survive with just the contents having the capabilities to build a shelter, fire, fish, hunt for food, "glass" my surroundings and orienteering. I was raised by parents who were survivalists and prepared for life contingencies and emergencies. I became a buddy care/survival instructor in the military, a paramedic instructor teaching our EMT's, security police and firemen and always carried tools and teaching aides. It's hard to get over bad habits :) My backpacking gear consists of military surplus items and you know that weight is not a primary concern, that durability is. Having 60+ years of outdoor experience age is determining my load weight. Thanks to you and others I'm learning how to accomplish the lightweight goals.
I'm a 48 year old frequent car camper in the Inland Northwest USA with a compromised lower back, and I'm learning about backpacking set ups and gear from your channel that are helping me prepare. Thanks!
I consider a multi-tool to be a part of my personal base weight because I wear one daily. It can be used to fix or repair broken gear & eqp't so I'd rather bring it than leave it. If I don't have one on me it feels like I've lost a thumb or some other important appendage.
I bring a set of clothes for sleeping in. Usually shorts and a t-shirt. They don't weigh much and if it's raining you have a set of dry clothes to be in at camp.
Backpacking in the rain you never stay completely dry even with a poncho. If it's not from the rain its from the sweat because those don't breathe well especially after 15 miles with 30lbs on your back.. For that reason, unless it's cold I don't bring rain gear. I also don't hike in boots. I wear shoes that will dry quickly. And my clothes will dry overnight in my tent. And besides you always risk getting wetter than expected at a river crossing.
Back packing is humorously ironic. An activity that presents so many cool things to take back packing, but then hikers look for ways to present instances where you should eliminate them from your pack to lighten the load.
It took me years to give in to the hydrated meal now that's all I use. My go to knife is a very light Leatherman, it is about 1.4 ozs. I got my pack weight way down and then said why not go all the way. I finally purchased a full Zpack big three. It cost but its the best money I have spent in years. I am in my 60s and weight is everything. I hike about every other weekend in the White Mountains of NH and I often see people carrying massive pack and I wonder what is in them. My old pack was 38 L and I could easily go out for a few days or a week. I do bring clean underwear but no change of clothes you have to draw the line somewhere. Less is truly more in backpacking.
Such, great info. I'm getting excited for backpacking this year. I'm so inspired. I saw a video you did about the Toaks 750 ml mug/pot and I'm so ready to get one. I'm addicted to gear. Thanks for your passion and inspiration.
Great tips! Only one that I do not agree with is the canister part. But that’s more from a environmental perspective. Buying a 450g gas canister and using it on several weekend trips is both better for your wallet and the environment. But great tips! Cloths are really a weight saver. Thinking a little bit extra about layering and optimizing the cloths you have can save a lot!
As scouters, we were always experimenting with pack weights. One weekend we went "cook-less" camping. No stoves or fuel cells ! We studied menus and made sandwiches, dried fruit & berries, and other no cook foods. I'm not sure if we packed much less but its another avenue. I see you always have a firepit in the background too, in most cases we weren't allowed fires in the backcountry.
Perfect buddy. How many times have I mailed home those unnecessary 'just in case' items. My mantra now is 'Simplify. Minimise. Maximise.' Ie simplify my needs, minimise my possession, maximise my life. Simplicity is liberation! 🙏✌⛺
I love Bush crafting, for me it's the reason I get out... I agree a Swiss army knife (SAK) is my go-to tool. I also baton wood with a large knife, but my knife had heavy aluminum sides bolted to the perforated blade. Now it has paracord. Cut 1/2 lb. instantly! Having a tough time spending $200+ on a sleeping pad... so far 2 big trash bags filled with fluffy moss or leaves and some tyvek is my go to. Hasn't sprung a leak yet. Empty bags weigh zero! Also used to tried to be Mr Ramsey in the woods! Canteen cup & foil is all I needed... Your vid is 100% on target! UL = expensive junk (especially if you haven't won the lottery or sleeping on your manicured lawn) and Durability = pounds Define your hobby first. Bushcrafting ISN'T Homesteading! Or is it? 😉 Breaking old habits is hard!
On the stove topic, I use QuickStove compressed discs. 1/4 of a disc will easily boil 20oz of water. Each disc is 0.75” x 3.5" and weighs 3.5oz. Heavier than most small tanks, but this requires no burner (which you didn’t include in your weights). And it can’t break.
I know I'm late to this video, but we are planning to go around St Helens in a 3 day trip and these advises are definitely gold. I have done this route before (when I was 27 and didn't care), but I remember my back pack was very heavy with stuff I have never used on a trail. We carried a 3-person tent split between two people (terrible!). In a summer weather, I wonder if I can skip a TENT! Just sleep on the 5.6R pad and 0F rated bag. Anybody had similar experience with no tent backpacking? Thanks!
Dan. Love your videos. Lots of content without being overbearing. One item you didn't talk about is water. When I got back into backpacking (at senior age) I carried a full 2 liter hydration bladder (4.4 lbs!). I know I need water, but how much? I now carry about a liter (2.2 lbs) and refill it whenever I can with my befree. Of course I live in the Pac. NW with lots of streams and lakes. In the desert maybe not so effective. That subject might be worth a video.
Greetings from Germany Dan. I saw a ton of Videos from you and this one is so special because I own the same Rambo knife since I was 14 or so. Made me really laugh. And it’s in the same condition too. Never used it for camping either. I used my Buck knife instead in the old days. 😂 And it was totally unnecessary. Thumbs up and keep going. Your Videos are really helpful and enjoyable.
Here some stats for you Dan: I use an old Coleman stove with the 220 gm isobutane can (an empty can weighs 3.615 oz). It takes 0.34 oz of fuel to boil 2 cups of water in 3.34 minutes. 2.75 oz of fuel gave me 8 burns (on a week long trip).
I don't drink coffee, but I do drink cocoa. i put the cocoa mix (my personal blend) in a sandwich ziploc bag, pour the hot water into the bag and put the bag back into the pot/mug to drink. When I'm done I just zip the bag shut and there's no need to rinse the cup. My Toaks cup is just big enough to fit the fuel canister, fuel canister stabilizer (3 folding legs that ciip onto the bottom of the canister) a lighter, and a really small deck of cards. The mug cup fits into a small cylindrical cozy I made out of reflectix that I heat/rehydrate my home made dehydrated meals. I'm not bragging just offering additional suggestions.
Into both backpacking and bushcraft, but even when I'm mostly going hiking, I'll still bring a descent sized knife. In the places I go, I've ran into a fair amount of wild critters. You could argue that a knife doesnt make a good self defence tool, but still help put the mind at ease to know I at least have something.
Awesome advice Dan! I'm planning a 3 night, 30 mile hike and definitely would have brought my esse 6 knife and 2 of the small cans of gas . I'm sure I'll be fine with my skelletool and 1 gas can. I do have a small tablet stove if I need it. Thanks!
Number 1 I have to disagree with. You should always have a set of extra clothes. That’s a survival tip. If your clothes you’re wearing get wet and the temps drop just enough, that’s a good way to hypothermia. Having an extra set of dry clothes is pretty important.
The Gerber Dime is IMO about the perfect backpacking blade. Costs about $15, very light, small and very durable, has a pair of scissors, tweezers, small blade, bottle opener, pliers, screwdrivers. Pull out knots, slivers, etc. Everything you need. 68 grams = 2.4 ounces
Tip for beginners! As a female scout Leader for a Girls “ Boy Scouts” group I have another big tip. Beauty products are HEAVY. I end up throwing out full bottles of body lotion on almost every trip. When in nature go natural! It will save you 2 pounds easy. When hiking, vanity is literally exhausting.
The first trip is the worst, we always keep track of what we actually needed and learn to "share the load" with others. You don't need a dozen water purification units on a trip !
That microscopic knife is weird and crazy probably same as that huge military knife 😄, but fortunately You showed also that more (normal) traditional alternatives so I love your review and other tips in general too. Thanks for sharing knowledge 👍
I have a small knife, 3” Kershaw. But it’s a strong legit knife. I lash this to a stick when I make camp. Bears fear spears more than knives. Also the shavings from my spear work to start the fire.
Yep, it's all in knowing what not to pack. That little Swiss Army executive knife is great, I carry it too. But I also carry my Gerber Ultralight LST as a tool for fire materials, fish cleaning, small mammal gutting, and all around survival use that a 1 oz 4" knife can handle.
I think one of the best knives you can have for hiking is the Victorinox Compact - Knife - cut stuff Combo screw driver/ opener - fix your stove, mini pry tool, fix small items, change out tripods etc. Scissors - open bags when you need to just cut a small portion and tends to be safer than a knife blade , first aid, nails and grooming File - nails and grooming Corkscrew - the universal knot remover, so easy to get stubborn knots open Tweezers- First aid (ticks etc) Replace the Toothpick with a Firefly from Tortoise Gear Ferro rod and you have an emergency fire starter. Its a little ferro rod that will fit in the toothpick slot and you can use the file or the lower part of your blade to strike it to get it started in an emergency.
Dan, on a mission to covert you... I like the Gerber Dime for a knife much better than all those options for versatility and weight - super small, and it has scissors and pliers! Only weighs 2.2oz.
about the clothing (and this only applies to those legends who go backpacking no matter what the weather) you can go hypothermic with 50 degree weather rain and wind chill so i pack a rain coat underwear and socks so you can survive and not freeze worse case and it cuts weight off cuz pants and shirt are the heaviest
Enjoyed the video overall just have to say about the fuel as someone from the British isles the small one runs out for me midday on the second day, but I imagine you dont brew up as often as I do. :D
I’m also guilty of taking more fuel than needed but I guess I’m just paranoid about that for some reason. As you allude to in every video, what works for some doesn’t always work for everyone. I tend to bring my fishing gear on my trips adding weight, but at the same time leave behind a significant amount of food and eat fish for a majority of meals. Love your videos with the ideas and suggestions you give. Keep them coming!
I have that exact knife, and you're right, I've had it for what seems like a million years! they were called "LifeKnife" I'm pretty sure mine has all the original stuff in the handle. I never did really pack it, just bought it on a whim and sharpened the daylights out of it.
I had a friend who went camping with me and he brought the huge "survival knife" with wire saw, survival gear etc in the hollow grip - none of which he needed any of the times we camped together. Meanwhile, I had a pocket knife and a small standard sheath knife with a 4" blade - served me just as well as his "Rambo knife" served him.
If you are camping in a place where you are allowed to cut and burn fallen branches, a hefty knife is a must. I used to camp in Japan and I had a knife that I picked up in a hardware store there. I used it to chop fallen limbs into smaller pieces, to split them into quarters and to shave them for kindling. I didn't really need it when I knew I was going somewhere that didn't allow camp fires, but wouldn't be caught dead without if I knew there was a chance I could have a fire.
I backpack with two livestock guardian dogs--Kuvasz breed. They can carry their own food, water for me if needed, and lots of other stuff. With a combined body weight of 170 lbs they can easily carry 30 lbs between them. Great way to reduce backpack weight--have a couple of large breed dogs along for the fun! Added bonus--they watch my back while i'm out there too!!😁
Dan, I have cut so much gear during my years of backpacking but it frustrates me that I still can't get my base weight under 17 lbs...of course, I do not have an ultra ultra light tent but mine is only an additional pound. I do carry a luxury item of a 1 lb camp chair that I refuse to give up since I am 65 and need a little comfort LOL. AND I always carry a bear vault because I am always backpacking in bear country and have seen many bears...I used to hang but have had issues with that. So anyways, that's 4 lbs that I can't give up so I can't expect to be ultralight anytime soon. Anyways, I really appreciate your videos, they are fabulous and very helpful...Thankyou!
Love the food lockers at the backcountry sites (at least at Pictured Rocks here in Michigan). What a great idea, and saves that extra weight for the bear canister. At least it's an option on some trails!
If you want to save even more just bring an umbrella and save on water, sunblock cream, hat. Sun glasses, rain clothes, stove wind blocker, etc... Not only it will save you a lot of money, will make you bag 1 to 2 kilos lighter but it also potentially will make your hike a lot nore enjoyable.
I pack a set of trail cloths and a set of camp cloths (pants and mid layer, depending on temperatures maybe a long sleeve base layer shirt). Usually one additional set of socks, undies and a base layer shirt is enough for any kind of multi day hike: you can still switch, wash it on the trail and have it dry on your bag.
Plenty of great weight savings tips. I’m a fan of the smaller 220g Coleman fuel canister for weekend backpacking for no other reason than cost; approx $6.00. I do wish they had a 110g version though.
Hi Dan, Great video. I will say the gerber dime is great for including a pair of pliers. I cook on a fire primarily and removing a hot lid from anything in a fire is far less painful with those pliers.
Going to the Sierras for a 60 miler for my 3rd backpacking trip (1 each year). I geek out on going light. I follow most of this and have been. I can be lighter by less food(I always have leftovers), less clothing (wool is your friend/it's not that stinky), and not bringing a camping chair. It's a light chair by Big Agnes, but that could get me from lower 30lbs to start in to the 20lb range.
I love your videos so much! Always give raw unfiltered advice! Luckily I bought the right size fuel but I'm considering some other things you mentioned now! Thank you! Or should I say my back thanks you?
If someone doesn't feel good about the size of the Swiss knife you showed Opinel No 7 is a great option. It's got a 7 cm long blade (2.75") and weights only 37 g (1.3 oz). Top of all it cost only 10 bucks. Strong enough to make tent pegs.
Hi! I really enjoy your videos! I'm learning alot and I can't wait to go camping! Unfortunately, as a woman, I'm not courageous enough to go by myself. I'm worried about bears and bad humans. I'd love to be able to go backpacking every weekend and not depend on a friend's schedule! Could you do a review of best motion activated alarms please? I really wanted to do the Maroon Bells/ Four Pass Loop in August around Aspen, CO but unfortunately my friends' schedule don't match with mine, and because I can't find a reliable safety camping gear that will be extremely loud and extremely bright to deter scary bears and those special kind of disgusting humans away, now I'm changing my plans and searching for places where I can camp out of my car, while still feeling like I'm out in the wilderness...it's not ideal, but that's the best compromise I could think of. Any suggestions?
Lili, I am very disappointed you may have to change your plans to sleeping/camping in your car, although while camping by myself I have accomplished it. I had a Honda Element that worked out quite well, with a cot in the back. I had enough room to sit up on the cot and swing my legs over the side. Check online, there's a lot of sites describing SUV camping. Another alternative, and they may not allow it to be mentioned here, is an ultra-light firearm. I purchased a "Judge" lightweight model a few yrs back for camping upper Michigan, have never had to use it.......so far ! Good Luck !
Thank you SO much for doing 'rest of world' first and having it in grams. They make so much more sense for a lot of us (and this is as someone who grew up with both) :)
I totally agree, I often think about my old kit, stuffing everything into a 30l bag and while I didn't bring the huge canisters, I brought the second from smallest at first. I do presume, though, that more is cheaper so buying a cheap tap to exchange fuel from the big to small canister makes life easier and environmentally friendly having used all the fuel to the last drop, I never threw out a canister in my life until I got the tap to empty them fully :D good video
Slightly of topic but... I always carry a whistle, a compass, some storm matches and my swiss army knife in or on the clothing that I wear. I consider it the bare minimum when I loose everything else. A water bottle, some painkillers, a reflective (signal) item and my raingear are all in one stuff sack (with some other stuff), easily removeable from the outside of the backpack. A river may flush everything away as long as I have the aforementioned items. I need it to stay, dry, warm and hydrated. I am no bush man. I need these items to either reach civilistion in at most 3 days, or hope help arrives in less than one week. I also have the Garmin inreach satellite communicator. It is, of course, the first thing I would use in case of a serious emergengy. It is also the first item I consider not to work in the worst case scenario.
A sheath knife can help split kindling up for a fire, and if it's the right size, be a substitute for a hatchet. It isn't necessarily too much in that context, my old Dunder Mifflin friend.
He explicitly said he wasn't doing stuff like that. He's cooking using a fuel cannister. He's not chopping wood. His warmth comes from his clothing and an appropriate sleep system. Making fires like that is prohibited in a ton of places in the first place.
As an Outdoorsman and not just a Backpacker. Id say the single handed MOST USEFUL tool, is your multi tool. Its not about how often its used, Its about the importance of what can be done with it, for me atleast. However I agree with most everything else though. I need to start leaving my stupid rock hammers and chisels at home hah.
Some great advice but I always carry a minimal set of extra clothes for hanging around camp and sleeping. When the temps drop sweaty hiking clothes can lead to chilling and a poor night's sleep, which will restrict your enjoyment.
I always bring one set of spare clothes as a backup for safety as much as for comfort, given that getting caught in a heavy downpour or flipping a canoe (okay, that's not so much backpacking), under the wrong circumstances can lead to hypothermia. Also, I'm a pretty sweaty dude, and it feels nice to change shirts sometimes.
Seriously, I do have the Swiss Army Huntsman pocketknife, and I love it (my Dad bought it for me many years ago). It's especially handy for when I find those wild, lost bottles of wine, that need to have the cork pulled 🤣
Just FYI - the small MSR fuel can you were showing does NOT weigh 113g/4oz - that's the NET weight of the fuel (if full). They actually weigh twice that gross. (Obviously still the best choice for these trips, but just correcting for correcting's sake.)
100g fuel can vs alcohol, 1.5 fluid oz. of alcohol to boil 2 cups = 33g of alcohol. So in 3 boils you have used the equivalent weight of the fuel can which does 10-12 boils @ 2 cups. So 3-4 times the weight in alcohol to be equivalent, not to mention the durability of the storage container or the volume (15-18 fluid oz.).
I do not cook on the trail. I bring dried meat, hard cheeses, dried fruit, nuts, bars, and dense grains. I love making homemade rice crispy treats and you can load them up with anything. I'm not saying it's wrong to want a hot meal or warm coffee in the morning ... But you do save weight and space by leaving it all at home
Subscribe or mice will get in your food bag
Ain't no mouse gettin' through that Kevlar food bag liner. Plus I'm subscribed, you know, for that extra insurance
To late, The mini-bears already finished it off. I wish I had known this was all I had to do a while back, (great video, good common sense tips)
There is a unit Button on your scale, you dont need to Google... But als a lazy metric person - Thank you!
I'm already subscribed and mice *still* got in my food bag!
I subscribed because I don't want mice getting in my food bag.
Good tips!
One thing I’ll add is to look through your pack every now and then to see if there’s anything you really don’t need, but just haul around out of habit. I was going through my daypack once and found a fist sized rock in the very bottom of it, underneath my first aid kit. Parts of it had a glass-like polish from being in there so long. My son had collected it once during a hike; we put it in the pack and promptly forgot about it. I lugged that thing around for 3 years.
I just weighed it out of curiosity. 357 grams/12.62 oz.
That's hilarious!
Good for your hammies!
When I first starting hiking after a 25 year hiatus, I basically didn't stop to think that I was no longer the ex-college athlete who could carry over 1/3rd his body weight in a pack. (Seriously, when I was 21 I went on a 117 mile hike, body weight 145, pack weight 55 lbs.) So in my late 40s I was out hiking with friends and relatives and I herniated a disk (had a 40+ lb. backpack.) While waiting for one of us to go get the car, we took an inventory of my pack. I had a key ring.. yes a frickin' key ring, with so many rings on it I looked like a high school janitor. It weighed 1.5 pounds all on its own. It was just what I normally had with me so I tossed it into the top of the pack after we parked the car. Just habit. No thought. The rest of my inventory was just as bad - useless stuff or too heavy. Now while I don't subscribe to going overboard on ultralight (it can get out of hand also) at least now I can go for an extended trip with a starting pack weight around 27 pounds (all in, 7 days of food, water, everything) and even that is because I tend to carry a lot of water (having run out once in a desert, I'm now paranoid. about it.) Now at 62, the lighter weight is important.
I am 62 also and have cut another 6 1/2 pounds off my gear. I want to enjoy and complete my hikes in relative comfort.
At 60 I just went on my first non-car camping trip. My pack weighed 18kg (40lb) and other than the 3kg+ of booze, I thought I had it paired down to just the essentials. So even without the necessary liquid refreshment, at 15kg (33kg) I wonder how people boast about 4kg (9lb) base loads! My pack is nearly half of that alone!
@@fatmanfaffing4116 I am 55 and right their with you, gotta have the singe malt!
How do I you do it my pack hits 50 lbs not including a gun on my thigh. I take bear spray too. Tent, sleeping bag and pad, dehydrated cook in bag meals. I’ve bought good gear not junk but also not top of the line ultralight stuff.
I carry a sharpie and mark my fuel canister every time I boil water. When I get up to 10-12 boils on a can it goes into the car camping bin. I can typically get 15-18 boils on a canister though.
Motorep146 great idea! Is this for the large fuel canister or the 4 ounce? And what kind of stove are you using this always worries me that I’m gonna run out of fuel🤷🏻♀️
@@kimrobb1965 Yes, that's for the 4 ounce MSR cans. I use an Olicamp Ion Micro ti stove and setup with a decent wind break. Most of my trips are 2-5 days and a can will easily last coffee, oatmeal, and dinners during that time. If my wife is going on anything more than a 2 day trip she carries her own stove and fuel.
Good solution for the partially-full canisters.
Yep same here. I consistently get 13 boils from a sterno 100g can. I just carry an extra if I'm gonna need more than what's in a can and I'll run out the partial.
@@ModernGentleman That's what I buy - but I've been refilling my older small MSR cans. I carry a 100g fuel can along with a Bushbuddy UL which only weighs 130-ish grams (e.g. about 2/3 the weight of a full fuel can) and cook with it whenever I can. I like fire and wood fuel is free. (obviously this doesn't work for a lot of trails but where I go it usually does)
I learned to also take a change of underwear after the bear incident.
I don't. I just draw the old reliable Swiss Army Classic SD, wave it at the bear and without fail they die laughing. =__^
I learned to take extra socks after the "road" ended up being more of a river.
Bruhhh 😂😂😂😂😂
Nicely done, sir
A great thing to do if you have a stubborn knot, use the cork screw on your Swiss Army knife, screw it into the knot and loosen it using the cork screw. It works great!
I thought you meant there was a million videos about you not wearing a hat. 🤣 tf
I thought the "elephant in the room" referred to an overweight pack.
One more point: some of us (me included) should try to lose some weight ourselves. Our knees will thank us.
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rolfdenver I decided to do that and took a few months to lose a little over 2 stones. It has made a difference and I can now happily carry more weight in my pack too. Losing pounds in body weight is even more important than trimming ounces from your pack weight.
The benefits of fat shaming
@@Whodunnit4eva
“Get off your fat pack, dude.” Or similar?
If I lose a stone that's like 6 litres of water! (14lbs - 10 pints!)
I have been sifting through so much information preparing for my first solo backpacking trip and your channel is a breath of fresh air! I am introduced to new gear and practical ideas without being force fed the same overly expensive brands I see all over the place. Excellent content, very helpful for a first timer! ❤️
so, did you make it?
The pre-packed meals Dan refers to are good...expensive and take up a lot of bag space. Make up your own dried meals ready to apply to boiling water, and pack in freezer baggies. Just as good, much cheaper !
I don't bring those extra things so that I can bring my camping chair.
Harsh..but fair.
Need to cut all that gear so you can load all the video gear and extra camera batteries
Same 😄
Dan, your scale has a 'units' button to do the conversions for you.
Fearsome Fawkes it was nice hearing an American you tuber using metric for change. Dan has fans all around the world, not just America
How many grams in a U.S. dollar if weight saves money?
It only does ounces in .5 increments. I was trying to be more accurate with Siri.
Metric makes more sense, keep it up Dan!
I've also noticed that these scales offer more precision in metric than imperial for whatever reason. I mean it's the same scale..... why can't it do 0.6 or .8 once ? Not advocating for imperial or anything but that is just strange to me.
Concerning the fuel canister, i always bring two of the small ones. One is from the previous trip and is used until it's out of fuel, then i have a fresh one. Also having two provides a backup in-case of failure also.
I've done that in the past, not trusting the partially-full one to last. Sometimes it does, sometimes it's a damned good thing I had a full canister on hand.
Sounds like a good plan. I think it's difficult to know how long a already used one is going to get you... On the other hand, when you run out of fuel, cold soak might be an option. No? 😁
200g is not worth it for a backup to an already non essential item
Same. Though 2 day trips are usually car camping trips. 7 to 10 days trips are back country and canoeing and we bring bigger canisters, but cook a lot on the fire if there's no fire ban.
Just found your channel by an off chance. I am recently out of the Army (33 years) and getting to reconnect with the outdoors like I was before I joined. So I am currently using my leftover military gear. I find the preoccupation with weight kind of funny with backpackers telling me my gear is too heavy, or just hazing me for using military gear. As I outdistance and outpace them in their ultralight packs. Granted as I get further along I will probably get some civilian gear.
But in the meantime, I enjoy your outlook and humor on your videos, just subscribed.
my ILBE will forever be my go to bag. even if i generally only use a third of the space, it carries the load so well its amazing. after more than a decade of use i couldnt imagine replacing it.
The thing is weight is weight. More weight = more energy expenditure and stress on the body regardless of how you get through it. With so many years in, I imagine you developed a relatively high level of discipline, skills, and ability to adapt. Not sure of the level of backpackers you're really comparing to, but if you're outpacing ultralight people with a much heavier haul, then that would be amplified with a reduced haul. As a vet myself, another thing we learned is how to make due with less. Generally ultralight gear is meant to be both fairly reliable and lighter weight -- the downside often being cost. I'd consider myself just 'light' packer since I like to have a little bit of added luxury available, but it's definitely nice to get out there with a bag under 15-20lb at times compared to 40-50lb rucking with unnecessary bulk.
I still use some of my old army kit but am slowly replacing it with better stuff. I'm 60 now and shake my head at how much stuff we used to carry. Then you see vids with guys complaining about their pack... not a single round of ammo or a spare radio battery amongst the lot of them, hahahaha
Military gear might be heavy sometimes, but it's also extremely durable. Sometimes it's worth the extra weight just so you don't have to think too much about being careful with all your stuff
Definitely carry the knife with the corkscrew, you never know when you’re gonna find a cache of wine...
Great video ! As for the knife, I recently changed my backpacking knife for the Opinel n°8. 45g French made foldable knife with locking mechanism. Great and light and cheap option (at least here in France).
Keep up with the good work!
Hi from France
I made the same jump in the US. Great knife, super light.
@@chrismoellering695 i also have the Opinel , in sage green.
good knives!!
Opinels are my favourite knive. I have one since i am a kid. Its awesome
All your ideas are great! The best pack solution (for me) is a detailed pack list, describes what’s in each ditty bag, choice of cook gear set ups, which sleep system for different weather expectations, clothing set ups, etc . This way I don’t forget anything important, and don’t toss in those seemingly light weight “just in case, why not” that add up so fast. Last pack update included 3x Imodium and bring a survival blanket (the cheap Mylar kind) for other less prepared day hikers. I’m not giving up my down bag if your too dumb to bring a sweater, but I will front you a $1.99 survival blanket 😉
Hi there Holly, I'm guessing that Hopalong refers to a walking impairment. I can only admire your fortitude, in your continuance of your hiking and trekking pastime. I have one good leg and one good arm (brain damage) but get about in a comically shambolic way dragged along by my large and enthusiastic dog. My preps, or lack thereof epitomise that of the (very) casual, hap-hazard slack-packer, I'm in awe of your precision in the organisation of your packing protocols. May I kindly suggest that you adopt "Spreadsheet" as your trail name. I yearn with the utmost longing for a tent-wench like you, a paragon of efficiency, a godess of neat to bring serenity and certainty to the random adventures of my outdoor life. Trouble is we are on opposite sides of the pond, but I promise to think of you as my icon of perfection, next time a sudden and impromptu jaunt descends into a chaotic disaster, rooted as always in my hope for the best, mindset. No one can begin to imagine the immense joy I experience when, having laid the foundations for another monumental fk-up, nothing goes pear shaped, and all goes well. Will I ever learn? Probably not ! Atb to you dear lady, stay safe and enjoy as many of those wonderful trails you have as you can. God bless.
Fuel specifically, being a consumable, has a different kind of economy to consider: where I shop a 100g canister costs £5, whereas a 230g canister is only £7 - that's more than double the fuel (and therefore more than double the duration of use) for less than 50% extra cost price.
I can swallow the weight penalty, at that value.
Camping with buddies ? One carries the bigger fuel canister, the other a stove. SHARE, as they taught us in pre-school, make both packs lighter. 1st aid kit ? You don't need two. Water purifier ? Pack one & s h a r e !
Only place local to me to sell these things I know if is Walmart and they don’t sell the smallest size. The slightly bigger size is what they have. To go to REI is about an hour long trip and for fuel canisters it’s not worth it.
Good tips. If I leave out the large fuel canister I can bring a small watermelon
The underappreciated aspect of the watermelon is the dual function portable water closet when carved out properly and if you add straps sky's the limit and the best part it's literally green
I bring some extra toys because it keeps me entertained, and part of the reason I backpack is for the exercise. So I’m not afraid to carry 35 lbs of gear and food. I’m not a small guy. It’s different for everyone.
Love that little Victorinox multitool, I've had one on my car keys for about 7 years, moved house twice and unpacked all the boxes with it. I would say I use the tool at least once a day, couldn't live without it!
Thanks for the great tips, Dan! I know I tend to take too much in the way of light sources (including batteries) because I'm a caver too and always stress out if I run out of batteries. I'm packing now for my first backpacking trip this year with a lighter weight in mind for my pack. I got the NEMO Chair Zero which shaved 1 lb. off my original camp stool. I also just purchased the NEMO Dragonfly 2P tent to save me several more lbs. I'm not an ultralight backpacker but being a senior with a bad back, I do have to weigh (literally) the difference between comfort and carrying weight.
Mora companion. 4 inch blade, super sturdy, 4 oz. Weighs less than that big swiss army knife, and does more for you if your really in trouble. Because a knife is like a condom. Rather have a good one and not need it than need it and not have it.
I have an older Mora, wooden handle, also weighs maybe 2/3 of the big swiss army, but bigger blade. Helps especially as many of the hikes I do I can build fires.
Yep I completely agree
Don’t think I could ever take my Mora companion off of my pack.
My Swiss army knife has a 4inch blade is smaller than the mora and has a saw +50 other things
One area where newbs (like this one) can trim weight is the med kit and toiletries you bring along for a weekend trip. I started out with two-thirds of my medicine cabinet in several zip locks.
These are all great tips, Dan. I'm one of those guys who tends to over pack, especially when it comes to tools. Always a proponent for the right tool to properly accomplish a task, I carry an Emerson chest pack. I could survive with just the contents having the capabilities to build a shelter, fire, fish, hunt for food, "glass" my surroundings and orienteering. I was raised by parents who were survivalists and prepared for life contingencies and emergencies. I became a buddy care/survival instructor in the military, a paramedic instructor teaching our EMT's, security police and firemen and always carried tools and teaching aides. It's hard to get over bad habits :) My backpacking gear consists of military surplus items and you know that weight is not a primary concern, that durability is. Having 60+ years of outdoor experience age is determining my load weight. Thanks to you and others I'm learning how to accomplish the lightweight goals.
I'm a 48 year old frequent car camper in the Inland Northwest USA with a compromised lower back, and I'm learning about backpacking set ups and gear from your channel that are helping me prepare. Thanks!
I consider a multi-tool to be a part of my personal base weight because I wear one daily. It can be used to fix or repair broken gear & eqp't so I'd rather bring it than leave it. If I don't have one on me it feels like I've lost a thumb or some other important appendage.
I bring a set of clothes for sleeping in. Usually shorts and a t-shirt. They don't weigh much and if it's raining you have a set of dry clothes to be in at camp.
Backpacking in the rain you never stay completely dry even with a poncho. If it's not from the rain its from the sweat because those don't breathe well especially after 15 miles with 30lbs on your back.. For that reason, unless it's cold I don't bring rain gear. I also don't hike in boots. I wear shoes that will dry quickly. And my clothes will dry overnight in my tent. And besides you always risk getting wetter than expected at a river crossing.
Back packing is humorously ironic. An activity that presents so many cool things to take back packing, but then hikers look for ways to present instances where you should eliminate them from your pack to lighten the load.
I love the Leatherman Squirt: pliers, blade, scissors, file, screwdriver, 56 g. Really hard to beat.
It took me years to give in to the hydrated meal now that's all I use. My go to knife is a very light Leatherman, it is about 1.4 ozs. I got my pack weight way down and then said why not go all the way. I finally purchased a full Zpack big three. It cost but its the best money I have spent in years. I am in my 60s and weight is everything. I hike about every other weekend in the White Mountains of NH and I often see people carrying massive pack and I wonder what is in them. My old pack was 38 L and I could easily go out for a few days or a week. I do bring clean underwear but no change of clothes you have to draw the line somewhere. Less is truly more in backpacking.
Such, great info. I'm getting excited for backpacking this year. I'm so inspired. I saw a video you did about the Toaks 750 ml mug/pot and I'm so ready to get one. I'm addicted to gear. Thanks for your passion and inspiration.
Great tips! Only one that I do not agree with is the canister part. But that’s more from a environmental perspective. Buying a 450g gas canister and using it on several weekend trips is both better for your wallet and the environment.
But great tips! Cloths are really a weight saver. Thinking a little bit extra about layering and optimizing the cloths you have can save a lot!
As scouters, we were always experimenting with pack weights. One weekend we went "cook-less" camping. No stoves or fuel cells ! We studied menus and made sandwiches, dried fruit & berries, and other no cook foods. I'm not sure if we packed much less but its another avenue. I see you always have a firepit in the background too, in most cases we weren't allowed fires in the backcountry.
Perfect buddy. How many times have I mailed home those unnecessary 'just in case' items. My mantra now is 'Simplify. Minimise. Maximise.' Ie simplify my needs, minimise my possession, maximise my life. Simplicity is liberation! 🙏✌⛺
I love Bush crafting, for me it's the reason I get out... I agree a Swiss army knife (SAK) is my go-to tool. I also baton wood with a large knife, but my knife had heavy aluminum sides bolted to the perforated blade. Now it has paracord. Cut 1/2 lb. instantly!
Having a tough time spending $200+ on a sleeping pad... so far 2 big trash bags filled with fluffy moss or leaves and some tyvek is my go to. Hasn't sprung a leak yet. Empty bags weigh zero!
Also used to tried to be Mr Ramsey in the woods! Canteen cup & foil is all I needed...
Your vid is 100% on target!
UL = expensive junk (especially if you haven't won the lottery or sleeping on your manicured lawn) and
Durability = pounds
Define your hobby first. Bushcrafting ISN'T Homesteading! Or is it? 😉 Breaking old habits is hard!
On the stove topic, I use QuickStove compressed discs. 1/4 of a disc will easily boil 20oz of water. Each disc is 0.75” x 3.5" and weighs 3.5oz. Heavier than most small tanks, but this requires no burner (which you didn’t include in your weights). And it can’t break.
I know I'm late to this video, but we are planning to go around St Helens in a 3 day trip and these advises are definitely gold. I have done this route before (when I was 27 and didn't care), but I remember my back pack was very heavy with stuff I have never used on a trail. We carried a 3-person tent split between two people (terrible!). In a summer weather, I wonder if I can skip a TENT! Just sleep on the 5.6R pad and 0F rated bag. Anybody had similar experience with no tent backpacking? Thanks!
Dan. Love your videos. Lots of content without being overbearing. One item you didn't talk about is water. When I got back into backpacking (at senior age) I carried a full 2 liter hydration bladder (4.4 lbs!). I know I need water, but how much? I now carry about a liter (2.2 lbs) and refill it whenever I can with my befree. Of course I live in the Pac. NW with lots of streams and lakes. In the desert maybe not so effective. That subject might be worth a video.
Or water purification options ?
Why don’t you switch the scale to ounces? Just wondering? Love your videos, please keep masking them. God Bless!
Moraknivs are a good compromise I feel
SpecJack15 yup. Only thing I don’t feel they’re up to is splitting wood, but that’s what an axe is for :D
Greetings from Germany Dan. I saw a ton of Videos from you and this one is so special because I own the same Rambo knife since I was 14 or so. Made me really laugh. And it’s in the same condition too. Never used it for camping either. I used my Buck knife instead in the old days. 😂 And it was totally unnecessary. Thumbs up and keep going. Your Videos are really helpful and enjoyable.
Here some stats for you Dan:
I use an old Coleman stove with the 220 gm isobutane can (an empty can weighs 3.615 oz).
It takes 0.34 oz of fuel to boil 2 cups of water in 3.34 minutes.
2.75 oz of fuel gave me 8 burns (on a week long trip).
I don't drink coffee, but I do drink cocoa. i put the cocoa mix (my personal blend) in a sandwich ziploc bag, pour the hot water into the bag and put the bag back into the pot/mug to drink. When I'm done I just zip the bag shut and there's no need to rinse the cup. My Toaks cup is just big enough to fit the fuel canister, fuel canister stabilizer (3 folding legs that ciip onto the bottom of the canister) a lighter, and a really small deck of cards. The mug cup fits into a small cylindrical cozy I made out of reflectix that I heat/rehydrate my home made dehydrated meals. I'm not bragging just offering additional suggestions.
Into both backpacking and bushcraft, but even when I'm mostly going hiking, I'll still bring a descent sized knife. In the places I go, I've ran into a fair amount of wild critters. You could argue that a knife doesnt make a good self defence tool, but still help put the mind at ease to know I at least have something.
So..."piece of mind" has a weight factor ?
Awesome advice Dan! I'm planning a 3 night, 30 mile hike and definitely would have brought my esse 6 knife and 2 of the small cans of gas . I'm sure I'll be fine with my skelletool and 1 gas can. I do have a small tablet stove if I need it. Thanks!
For the love of god there are children watching dan put your hat back on
Number 1 I have to disagree with. You should always have a set of extra clothes. That’s a survival tip. If your clothes you’re wearing get wet and the temps drop just enough, that’s a good way to hypothermia. Having an extra set of dry clothes is pretty important.
The Gerber Dime is IMO about the perfect backpacking blade. Costs about $15, very light, small and very durable, has a pair of scissors, tweezers, small blade, bottle opener, pliers, screwdrivers. Pull out knots, slivers, etc. Everything you need. 68 grams = 2.4 ounces
Ha I was thinking the same thing. I found the gem last summer on sale.
Tip for beginners! As a female scout Leader for a Girls “ Boy Scouts” group I have another big tip. Beauty products are HEAVY. I end up throwing out full bottles of body lotion on almost every trip. When in nature go natural! It will save you 2 pounds easy. When hiking, vanity is literally exhausting.
Haha, vem sminkar sig ute i fält?!
The first trip is the worst, we always keep track of what we actually needed and learn to "share the load" with others. You don't need a dozen water purification units on a trip !
That microscopic knife is weird and crazy probably same as that huge military knife 😄, but fortunately You showed also that more (normal) traditional alternatives so I love your review and other tips in general too.
Thanks for sharing knowledge 👍
Bears have convinced me to carry the big knife and spray. Dan isn't as persuasive. 👍
I have a small knife, 3” Kershaw. But it’s a strong legit knife. I lash this to a stick when I make camp. Bears fear spears more than knives. Also the shavings from my spear work to start the fire.
Bears can be deterred with a knife ?
Yep, it's all in knowing what not to pack. That little Swiss Army executive knife is great, I carry it too. But I also carry my Gerber Ultralight LST as a tool for fire materials, fish cleaning, small mammal gutting, and all around survival use that a 1 oz 4" knife can handle.
Sorry Dan, my knife is part of my edc. Plus I've been in too many camps where they struggled to get a fire going until I split some kindling for us.
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@@DanBecker I was wondering why you have a hater following but I'm starting to get it. 🥱✌🖕
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Leatherman Squirt PS4 is my go to, super small and has knife, small pliers, file, and scissors. Highly recommend checking it out.
I think one of the best knives you can have for hiking is the Victorinox Compact -
Knife - cut stuff
Combo screw driver/ opener - fix your stove, mini pry tool, fix small items, change out tripods etc.
Scissors - open bags when you need to just cut a small portion and tends to be safer than a knife blade , first aid, nails and grooming
File - nails and grooming
Corkscrew - the universal knot remover, so easy to get stubborn knots open
Tweezers- First aid (ticks etc)
Replace the Toothpick with a Firefly from Tortoise Gear Ferro rod and you have an emergency fire starter. Its a little ferro rod that will fit in the toothpick slot and you can use the file or the lower part of your blade to strike it to get it started in an emergency.
Dan, on a mission to covert you... I like the Gerber Dime for a knife much better than all those options for versatility and weight - super small, and it has scissors and pliers! Only weighs 2.2oz.
Eric Laursen. Gerber Dime is great. I’ve been carrying it for years backpacking. All you would ever need for a hiking adventure.
I went with the similar Leatherman Squirt. I ended up throwing that in my pocket as an EDC of daily life... Along with my regular EDC knife, as well.
have been watching some of your videos today and just subbed. appreciate all your info and experience.
about the clothing (and this only applies to those legends who go backpacking no matter what the weather) you can go hypothermic with 50 degree weather rain and wind chill so i pack a rain coat underwear and socks so you can survive and not freeze worse case and it cuts weight off cuz pants and shirt are the heaviest
Wow.. just wow man, so many good points, instantaneously subscribed after watching
Enjoyed the video overall just have to say about the fuel as someone from the British isles the small one runs out for me midday on the second day, but I imagine you dont brew up as often as I do. :D
LOL I was thinking “what about elevenses and afternoon tea though” when he mentioned fuel 🤣
I’m also guilty of taking more fuel than needed but I guess I’m just paranoid about that for some reason. As you allude to in every video, what works for some doesn’t always work for everyone. I tend to bring my fishing gear on my trips adding weight, but at the same time leave behind a significant amount of food and eat fish for a majority of meals. Love your videos with the ideas and suggestions you give. Keep them coming!
Super new camper here: where have you been all my life??? LOVE your channel
I have that exact knife, and you're right, I've had it for what seems like a million years! they were called "LifeKnife" I'm pretty sure mine has all the original stuff in the handle. I never did really pack it, just bought it on a whim and sharpened the daylights out of it.
also have that exact knife. got mine when I was 12, must have been 86 or so. we all wanted to be like the kids in the original red dawn ha!
I had a friend who went camping with me and he brought the huge "survival knife" with wire saw, survival gear etc in the hollow grip - none of which he needed any of the times we camped together. Meanwhile, I had a pocket knife and a small standard sheath knife with a 4" blade - served me just as well as his "Rambo knife" served him.
If you are camping in a place where you are allowed to cut and burn fallen branches, a hefty knife is a must. I used to camp in Japan and I had a knife that I picked up in a hardware store there. I used it to chop fallen limbs into smaller pieces, to split them into quarters and to shave them for kindling. I didn't really need it when I knew I was going somewhere that didn't allow camp fires, but wouldn't be caught dead without if I knew there was a chance I could have a fire.
@4:34 - Whoa! Whoa there Dan!!! Are you insinuating that I won't need a corkscrew out on the trail?
I backpack with two livestock guardian dogs--Kuvasz breed. They can carry their own food, water for me if needed, and lots of other stuff. With a combined body weight of 170 lbs they can easily carry 30 lbs between them. Great way to reduce backpack weight--have a couple of large breed dogs along for the fun! Added bonus--they watch my back while i'm out there too!!😁
As I've aged(66) I keep eliminating more and more gear Probably dropped 10 lbs in stuff I really don't need or use. Great suggestions!
Do you need the lid to the mug/pot?
The lid on my "pot/mug" doubles as a tiny frypan......I'm trying to think if I've ever used it.......hahahahaha
Dan, I have cut so much gear during my years of backpacking but it frustrates me that I still can't get my base weight under 17 lbs...of course, I do not have an ultra ultra light tent but mine is only an additional pound. I do carry a luxury item of a 1 lb camp chair that I refuse to give up since I am 65 and need a little comfort LOL. AND I always carry a bear vault because I am always backpacking in bear country and have seen many bears...I used to hang but have had issues with that. So anyways, that's 4 lbs that I can't give up so I can't expect to be ultralight anytime soon. Anyways, I really appreciate your videos, they are fabulous and very helpful...Thankyou!
Love the food lockers at the backcountry sites (at least at Pictured Rocks here in Michigan). What a great idea, and saves that extra weight for the bear canister. At least it's an option on some trails!
I was 64 when I bought my Helinox Chair Zero. Totally worth the weight.
Love my tiny Swiss Army knife. 20 g of goodness. includes a toothpick and great tweezers.
I have a Swiss that’s bigger than the first but smaller than the second, I love it so much
I get so excited when I see Dan post another video. You make my pandemic!
If you want to save even more just bring an umbrella and save on water, sunblock cream, hat. Sun glasses, rain clothes, stove wind blocker, etc... Not only it will save you a lot of money, will make you bag 1 to 2 kilos lighter but it also potentially will make your hike a lot nore enjoyable.
I pack a set of trail cloths and a set of camp cloths (pants and mid layer, depending on temperatures maybe a long sleeve base layer shirt). Usually one additional set of socks, undies and a base layer shirt is enough for any kind of multi day hike: you can still switch, wash it on the trail and have it dry on your bag.
Dan, just hit the unit button on your scale ⚖️.
Love your videos!🤣
Plenty of great weight savings tips. I’m a fan of the smaller 220g Coleman fuel canister for weekend backpacking for no other reason than cost; approx $6.00. I do wish they had a 110g version though.
use fresh ones when weight doesn't matter. bring used ones when you want light weight.
Hi Dan,
Great video. I will say the gerber dime is great for including a pair of pliers. I cook on a fire primarily and removing a hot lid from anything in a fire is far less painful with those pliers.
Going to the Sierras for a 60 miler for my 3rd backpacking trip (1 each year). I geek out on going light. I follow most of this and have been. I can be lighter by less food(I always have leftovers), less clothing (wool is your friend/it's not that stinky), and not bringing a camping chair. It's a light chair by Big Agnes, but that could get me from lower 30lbs to start in to the 20lb range.
If you buy an adapter you can refill the little gas canisters from a big one - saving money, and resulting in less waste.
You can just refill from an 8oz butane canister too for about $2.50 for 8 ounces.
I love your videos so much! Always give raw unfiltered advice! Luckily I bought the right size fuel but I'm considering some other things you mentioned now! Thank you! Or should I say my back thanks you?
If someone doesn't feel good about the size of the Swiss knife you showed Opinel No 7 is a great option. It's got a 7 cm long blade (2.75") and weights only 37 g (1.3 oz). Top of all it cost only 10 bucks. Strong enough to make tent pegs.
Hi! I really enjoy your videos! I'm learning alot and I can't wait to go camping! Unfortunately, as a woman, I'm not courageous enough to go by myself. I'm worried about bears and bad humans. I'd love to be able to go backpacking every weekend and not depend on a friend's schedule! Could you do a review of best motion activated alarms please? I really wanted to do the Maroon Bells/ Four Pass Loop in August around Aspen, CO but unfortunately my friends' schedule don't match with mine, and because I can't find a reliable safety camping gear that will be extremely loud and extremely bright to deter scary bears and those special kind of disgusting humans away, now I'm changing my plans and searching for places where I can camp out of my car, while still feeling like I'm out in the wilderness...it's not ideal, but that's the best compromise I could think of. Any suggestions?
Lili, I am very disappointed you may have to change your plans to sleeping/camping in your car, although while camping by myself I have accomplished it. I had a Honda Element that worked out quite well, with a cot in the back. I had enough room to sit up on the cot and swing my legs over the side. Check online, there's a lot of sites describing SUV camping. Another alternative, and they may not allow it to be mentioned here, is an ultra-light firearm. I purchased a "Judge" lightweight model a few yrs back for camping upper Michigan, have never had to use it.......so far ! Good Luck !
Thank you SO much for doing 'rest of world' first and having it in grams. They make so much more sense for a lot of us (and this is as someone who grew up with both) :)
Just found your channel and love it! Great work and awesome that you use metric measurements thanks. G'day and greetings from Australia 😎
I totally agree, I often think about my old kit, stuffing everything into a 30l bag and while I didn't bring the huge canisters, I brought the second from smallest at first. I do presume, though, that more is cheaper so buying a cheap tap to exchange fuel from the big to small canister makes life easier and environmentally friendly having used all the fuel to the last drop, I never threw out a canister in my life until I got the tap to empty them fully :D good video
Slightly of topic but...
I always carry a whistle, a compass, some storm matches and my swiss army knife in or on the clothing that I wear. I consider it the bare minimum when I loose everything else.
A water bottle, some painkillers, a reflective (signal) item and my raingear are all in one stuff sack (with some other stuff), easily removeable from the outside of the backpack.
A river may flush everything away as long as I have the aforementioned items. I need it to stay, dry, warm and hydrated. I am no bush man. I need these items to either reach civilistion in at most 3 days, or hope help arrives in less than one week.
I also have the Garmin inreach satellite communicator. It is, of course, the first thing I would use in case of a serious emergengy. It is also the first item I consider not to work in the worst case scenario.
A sheath knife can help split kindling up for a fire, and if it's the right size, be a substitute for a hatchet. It isn't necessarily too much in that context, my old Dunder Mifflin friend.
He explicitly said he wasn't doing stuff like that. He's cooking using a fuel cannister. He's not chopping wood. His warmth comes from his clothing and an appropriate sleep system. Making fires like that is prohibited in a ton of places in the first place.
As an Outdoorsman and not just a Backpacker. Id say the single handed MOST USEFUL tool, is your multi tool. Its not about how often its used, Its about the importance of what can be done with it, for me atleast. However I agree with most everything else though. I need to start leaving my stupid rock hammers and chisels at home hah.
Some great advice but I always carry a minimal set of extra clothes for hanging around camp and sleeping. When the temps drop sweaty hiking clothes can lead to chilling and a poor night's sleep, which will restrict your enjoyment.
I'm not sure I could ever go out on the trails without a corkscrew. Wait, I don't drink. Never mind.
I always bring one set of spare clothes as a backup for safety as much as for comfort, given that getting caught in a heavy downpour or flipping a canoe (okay, that's not so much backpacking), under the wrong circumstances can lead to hypothermia. Also, I'm a pretty sweaty dude, and it feels nice to change shirts sometimes.
Seriously, I do have the Swiss Army Huntsman pocketknife, and I love it (my Dad bought it for me many years ago). It's especially handy for when I find those wild, lost bottles of wine, that need to have the cork pulled 🤣
Great tips. It's always good to look for ways to lighten the load.
Just FYI - the small MSR fuel can you were showing does NOT weigh 113g/4oz - that's the NET weight of the fuel (if full). They actually weigh twice that gross. (Obviously still the best choice for these trips, but just correcting for correcting's sake.)
man i love your videos straight forward no bs type of guy
Most people pack way to much kit, keep it simple and stay hydrated 👍🏻
Love the set up / music! Keep evolving!
Thank you!
Thanks Dan. I seem to struggle with sleep clothes/liner. Have a great week
100g fuel can vs alcohol, 1.5 fluid oz. of alcohol to boil 2 cups = 33g of alcohol. So in 3 boils you have used the equivalent weight of the fuel can which does 10-12 boils @ 2 cups. So 3-4 times the weight in alcohol to be equivalent, not to mention the durability of the storage container or the volume (15-18 fluid oz.).
I do not cook on the trail. I bring dried meat, hard cheeses, dried fruit, nuts, bars, and dense grains. I love making homemade rice crispy treats and you can load them up with anything.
I'm not saying it's wrong to want a hot meal or warm coffee in the morning ... But you do save weight and space by leaving it all at home