Don’t let this lie about Kobe distract from Russell Westbrook’s offense being his defense as well as the fact that Steph Curry averaged a triple-double.
so i believe the stat that sage was referring to was that one year (i don't remember) when Lebron's "in the paint efficiency" was lower than currys efficiency from the corner 3 point %, which is still crazy to think.
Corner 3s are more open shots in general (especially considering the warriors playbook) so it’s not that crazy to me at all that a sniper taking open shots can make more shots.
19:25 No lie, There was a thread on Twitter trying to downplay Kobe’s 81 point game because “but he took 46 shots!” It’s impressive to be this hateful and dense.
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 imagine all that was 2s he would only miss 6 shots like if you put it in that perspective then its insane how people say he took alot of shots for that game like what haha
he literally bailed out his team so many times with what it seems like a Hail Mary shot. This is why numbers don’t always tell the tale. Sad to see so much disrespect..
True I agree but I think it's very overblown to a crazy level that I think it drives people to just go to the complete opposite extreme. People exaggerate how many insane shots he his in career and how good he was so to the point where it's annoying because it's not true at all.
@@traxagenda3445 Can you also remind us that he had a bum knee and a broken index finger and couldn’t properly rotate the ball to shoot it well. CONTEXT MATTERS!!!
I checked the stats and it does say that. However the math ain't mathing. Michael Jordan had a field goal percentage of 44.5%. he also had a free throw percentage of 82.1%. combining his free throw and field goal percentage will equal his true shooting percentage. 82% from the free throw line should bounce his true shooting up a little more than 5% over his field goal percentage
Solz hit the nail on the head. Kobe is "inefficient" compared to literally the most efficient shot creators and volume scorers of all time like Lebron, MJ, KD and Steph Curry, however I think that comparison is totally fair. After all, Kobe is considered as good or greater than those guys, right?
Here’s the thing. Most of LeBron’s shots were inside the paint, especially during his first stint with the Cavs and the stint with the Heat. MJ also wasn’t necessarily a good 3 point shooter. Curry and KD are mainly efficient because they’re able to defer to each other or other teammates who don’t mind shooting. With Kobe, every teams strategy was to double team Kobe, which is why the Celtics won in 08 and partly why the Pistons won in 04.
@@B345T1N355Official lebron has a higher TS relative to league average and a higher points per 100 than kobe so he's just straight more efficient because he is able to get more shots at the rim. curry has been hyper efficient basically every season other than his rookie year, and 2019-20 when he played 5 games. defenses also focused strongly on literally every other player you mentioned. and it's not like when Kobe had good teams, even with shaq, he was anymore efficient, in truth he wasn't his TS relative to league everage remained around +0.02% to +0.04% from his second season to hs 13th season with no real increases when he was playing with shaq or pau compared to when his teams were bad. nor were his assists much greater with better team mates, in fact the season right after shaq left he averaged more assists than he ever did with shaq.
@@B345T1N355Official no. KD and Curry have high efficiency because they are great shooters. Don't try to attribute their efficiency to having good teams lol
@kints rapist2 Your talking about Kobe right ? Kobe's bad at mid range and from 3? Kobe the guy more skilled than Mj and a better 3 shooter than Bron and has probably gave ya fav player nightmares
Kobe is better than Magic and West at guard? Wilt and Kareem. Worthy and Elgin Baylor. Wilkes? Kobe and LeBron aren't even in the top 6 laker greats. Look up West and Baylor in 60s and the trams they lost to.
"Kobe has the most missed shots, inefficient" LeBron has the most turnovers in NBA history, not a single person is gonna say he ain't an all time playmaker. Stuff is goofy
Yeah but Lebron has BY FAR the most points generated (points + assists) in NBA history whereas Kobe doesn’t have the most points in NBA history. So Lebron having the most turnovers is just normal when he played 20 seasons with a very high Offensive Load and was the best scorer AND playmaker of his team every years except 2020 when AD averaged just 1 more points than him, when you have the ball as much and create as much for 20 seasons its just normal to have the most turnovers but Kobe is the 4th Top scorer of all time in the regular season and has more missed shots than Kareem, Bron and Karl Malone wich mean he isn’t efficient compared to them. If someone play 20 seasons and have a similar offensive load with 27ppg and 7 assists like Bron then we will be able to compare but right now nobody is really close the closest is Kobe who played 20 seasons, 1346 games and averaged 25ppg and 5 assists and he has 4010 Total turnovers vs Lebron 4878, but Lebron also played 1394 games. So despite Kobe playing less games and having a lower offensive load he still has almost as much turnover. On the other hand Lebron scored more pts than Kobe, 37860, and only missed 13588 shots while Kobe scored 33643pts and missed 14 481 shots. So Lebron scored 4217 more points than Kobe and missed 893 shots less than him, so Lebron played more games, scored way more points and missed way less shots while Kobe played less games, scored less and made less assists but still has almost as much turnovers as Lebron.
Yeah but LeBron is far more efficient and creates more shots for teammates. He only has half a turnover more than Kobe per game, but almost twice as much assists. Not the same
Solz and sage have become my favorite Duo on UA-cam... Every video is a banger and every take is virtually on point, they hold nothing back and they don't play the BS that every other UA-cam sports analyst plays
@Noah he ain’t break his hand he wouldn’t be able to dribble if he did. Yk how bad bone spurs can be? He could barely walk n had to get injections during halftime n shit.
@@kingcatkid8567 Who cares? Kobe doesn't have certain stats and major accolades, so he needs shit like "he played with a broken leg, a brain aneurysm and a gunshot wound, so that makes Kobe greater". Like if he didn't have bone spurs he'd produce any better. His production is what it is, injured or not.
@@kingcatkid8567 Kobes resume and peak are weak compared to other all time greats. That's why Kobe needs "Mamba Mentality" and player testimonials to prop up his legacy. Because he doesn't have the hardware or his name etched into the record books like guys he's constantly compared to. People claim Kobes the greatest scorer ever, but he only has 2 scoring titles. Westbrook, Harden, Durant, George Gervin, Allen Iverson, guys who aren't even in the top 10, top 20 all time have more scoring titles. People like to put him top 5, or shit even top 1 or 2 when he has 3 combined MVPs (Finals and regular season). Jordan had 11, LeBron and Kareem 8, Magic 6, Bird, Wilt and Duncan 5. His teammate Shaq has 4, 3 while he was playing with Kobe. And where does Kobes peak rank? You're telling me he's got a better peak than LeBron, Hakeem, Jordan, Kareem, Shaq? That's 5 right there that he flat out wasn't better than peak for peak. Duncan, Bird, Magic, Wilt and Curry all have strong cases for having better peaks also. So how can you make an argument for being top 5? Shit it's tough to argue Kobe top 10, top 5 is a stretch for sure.
@@TyroneNBAFan 🤣🤣🤣 ok bit. You never said answered my question n never said a argument to why he isn’t top 5 or even 10. What about competition? Bird faced a 8th seed in the finals right? Magic played with worthy, kareem, Michael cooper, n was 6’9 and never made a all defensive team or couldn’t even shoot a mid range consistently. There was 8 teams when wilt played. Duncan didn’t win every finals mvp n played a “role player” type of role in his last ring. Shaq didn’t do a thing without Kobe either so like I can’t see how he’s better when he didn’t do what he did with him without him. Mfs will keep going when you respond
2016 open curry three was a 73% true shooting shot which was higher than a rim attempt by lebron james 72% at the rim in that same year. Its a real stat SAGE.
They only started saying he's inefficient the closer he got to goat status. Nobody was saying that shit when he was dismantling teams with Smush Parker and Kwame brown. It's just one more Kobe hate narrative that really emerged after the shit in Colorado.
You’ve contradicted yourself, he raped the white girl in 03, so if this ‘narrative’ was created then how in 05/06 when he was ‘dismantling’ (he really wasn’t) with Smush and Kwame was no one saying this? Kobes efficiency has been overstated, dude still had awful shot selection and his clutch numbers are mediocre
@@hardwoodthought1213 First, he didn't rape the woman. She fucked 3 other guys that night and had a history of partying just like that. At worst, Kobe nearly ruined his life and marriage. The media never got over that and the incident happened exactly in the order I said it did. Not sure what's difficult to understand here. The false narrative started after the Colorado incident... You just up late looking to argue?
@@TyroneNBAFan no it didn't. No one said that shit prior to chip 4. Let me guess, your looked up some videos? If your not at least 30, gtfo of this discussion. If you're over that, you clearly weren't watching the nba
Sadly, Kobe being labeled "inefficient" is a byproduct of the GOAT debate where FG% is often the measuring stick to assess a player's efficiency. FALSELY. When he is measured against his peers like MJ, Lebron, Magic or Bird, he always comes off as "inefficient" and people can use this false argument to prop up their players based on their personal preference while simultaneously dragging down other players like Kobe.
One issue I have with the premise of the video is that Kobe, to some people a top 3 player of all time, is getting stacked up against League average Ts%, while he should be getting compared to the other superstars of his era, I'd be much more interested to see how he stacks up then
If you change the years to 1996 to 2010 or 2004 - 2017 then the graph is completely different. For example Iverson is so low because it doesn’t account for 1996 - 1999 which is better than doing til 2013 where AI wasn’t his best self past 2007 & he retired in 2011. I think for this to be an accurate graph we need to see the true shooting for every players best 13 years instead of only Kobe’s best years
@@Anthony01538 Yeah but they only take Kobes best year and all the other players hole career so if you do this you have to take Kobe full career against everybody els full career and not only take Kobe best years and leave out all his bad years to make Kobe look the best
@@mixedpleasure4324 The point of the video was to show during Kobe's prime (which he was a bench player for his first few seasons, and injured his last few) compared to the other volume scorers during that time period, as a relative benchmark for Kobe. In 1996, the league was completely different therefore it would be unfair to compare that to say 2010. Comparing best years is very misleading, as 2016 Stephen Curry's best year was much more efficient than Larry Bird's best year.
@kints rapist2 are u dumb?? 3s and free throws make up your total amount of points why would that not be included? that's apart of efficiency lmao. If a player can get to the free throw every time and make them, as boring as that is, its efficent.
@@traxagenda3445 he shot 44% for that game after missing his first 5 shots. It's not the best percentage but mostly all of his shots were mid range jumpers and threes.
Let’s clear this up. When most casuals say “Kobe is inefficient”, it’s only when they’re juxtaposing him next to the GOAT Michael Jordan. That, sir, is no argument
22:15 actually, Steph is THE most efficient volume scorer ever, and by a big margin, there are 6 players above him in Ts%, they are all paint dominant bigs and Artis Gilmore has the highest ppg at 17.1, then there's Montrezl Harrell, Cedric Maxwell and Rudy Gobert at 12.9, 12.5 and 12.4 respectively, and to round out the six there's DeAndre Jordan at 9.1 and Tyson Chandler at 8.2. So yeah, Steph is pretty much in a league of his own at efficiency, the next guard is Reggie Miller at 16th and Kevin Durant "who was better than him" is at 14th
You could've said that without taking shots at KD, who WAS better than Steph in 2017 and 2018 whether you like it or not. If you compare them in the playoffs, KD was the better scorer and rebounder on a higher FG%. Curry obviously had a better 3pt% and slightly better FT shooting. Steph has never averaged 30+ ppg in the playoffs, while KD has done that 3x. If you compare their finals appearances KD, was the better player between the 2 of them with AND without Steph, contrary to popular belief.
I honestly think the opinion has less to do with the amount of shots taken and more with the level of difficulty in the shots. Anyone who didn't really watch Kobe sees all the mid range double team highlights or his biggest failures and miss all the easy buckets he got that were "too boring for UA-cam". Just cuz those shots are inefficient for your favorite player doesn't mean it was for him.
I got one thing to say Kobe didn’t start when he got to the league but he is in the top 5 players in all time scoring let think sink in to people who can’t count
What i think we forget when we talk about efficiency of shots is the fact that wether its a three point shot missed or a lay up missed both lead to a technical turnover. So isnt true shooting percentage turning a blind eye to that?
The thing that gets lost in the inefficient stat is he was taking tough shots over 2 to 3 defenders regularly kobe rarely got wide open looks at the basket and even with that he was still consistent enough that you didn't expect him to miss
Only reason is because of the way he went out, in last 3 years of his career winning like 30 games and not accepting a more minor role. If that blip wasn't there he wouldn't be seen in that light ever.
My problem with Russell Westbrook’s critiques regarding “stat padding” is that almost no other player, even if they tried to stat pad, could achieve what he did that season.
Real basketball fans know the difference between layups dunks jump shots and 3 point shooting that’s why you can’t really debate on FG percentages unless the shots are compared in the same shooting area
Shaq won playing with the 2nd and 3rd greatest shooting guard of all time. Kobe did it with gasol. If anything shaq needed a great guard to access his full potential
Advanced stats is why I don't have a UA-cam channel. I'd get killed in the comments and probably banned for false information. But awesome reaction my guys you all keep it real for real.
I think people think Kobe is inefficient because when he had bad nights he would just continue to shoot and put up like 20+ shots and miss a ton of them. That said, Kobe had to shoot like that so that he could also keep shooting when he was hot, and when he was hot it made up for the nights he was cold.
I watched and never was scared of him when my team played him. I knew he going make slightly less than he misses and the perimeter. You can beat that, he’s inefficient.
Dudes only know how to look at a stat sheet. Kobe would take tough shots at the end of games which loweres his %, meanwhile LeBron is passing to teammates in the toughest situation
Don’t let this lie about Kobe distract from Russell Westbrook’s offense being his defense as well as the fact that Steph Curry averaged a triple-double.
Completely fax.
Fact.
Facts
They just said this about curry
That's what I'm sayin
Y’all made this 24 minutes exactly that’s hard 💪🏾🔥
@@brandonkhouli4972 but it is, which affects LeBron’s career.
@Noah Gunawan but jeremy lin averaged a triple double while his offense was his defense and affected lebrons legacy
@@QUANGAMES true but less not forget that Kyrie is a superstar
@@ThisDude234 yeah but don’t forget LeBron would have dunked it with his left
Don't forget Lonzo Ball is Steph Curry with a 30 foot jumper
so i believe the stat that sage was referring to was that one year (i don't remember) when Lebron's "in the paint efficiency" was lower than currys efficiency from the corner 3 point %, which is still crazy to think.
Corner 3s are more open shots in general (especially considering the warriors playbook) so it’s not that crazy to me at all that a sniper taking open shots can make more shots.
@kints rapist2 and so many of these kobe fans and stans really try to make him 3. Even ahead of lebron. The numbers don't add up
@@traxagenda3445 I have him as like 4th or 6th depending on the day but above bron is nasty
@@bradentucker4854 Kobetards beleive he’s number 2 because he plays like Jordan
@@skywalker2676 Yup that shit blows my mind.
19:25 No lie, There was a thread on Twitter trying to downplay Kobe’s 81 point game because “but he took 46 shots!” It’s impressive to be this hateful and dense.
Where
Goddamn that’s a lot of shots
@@PHXNKVHXLIC for 81 points? That’s nothing
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 imagine all that was 2s he would only miss 6 shots like if you put it in that perspective then its insane how people say he took alot of shots for that game like what haha
His TS% was 73.9 that game. That's incredible. I'm not a Kobe fanboy but I'm also not stupid.
he literally bailed out his team so many times with what it seems like a Hail Mary shot. This is why numbers don’t always tell the tale. Sad to see so much disrespect..
True I agree but I think it's very overblown to a crazy level that I think it drives people to just go to the complete opposite extreme. People exaggerate how many insane shots he his in career and how good he was so to the point where it's annoying because it's not true at all.
@@gotworc kobe won a MVP bro he was good
So kobe bailed out the Lakers in the finals going 6-24? Interesting
@@traxagenda3445 can you remind us of all the stars fg% or TS% that series?
@@traxagenda3445 Can you also remind us that he had a bum knee and a broken index finger and couldn’t properly rotate the ball to shoot it well. CONTEXT MATTERS!!!
The guy you referenced at 11:14 was Chris Webber..... Also side note I learned, MJ's wizards season had 21.2 ppg on a TS% of 48%
Oh
Was looking for who that was too. Thanks
Thank you
I checked the stats and it does say that. However the math ain't mathing. Michael Jordan had a field goal percentage of 44.5%. he also had a free throw percentage of 82.1%. combining his free throw and field goal percentage will equal his true shooting percentage. 82% from the free throw line should bounce his true shooting up a little more than 5% over his field goal percentage
12:02 that dot was steph before his offense was his defense
New age fans who've never watched 2000s Kobe lord they talk about the man like he was Monte Ellis. It's actually sad
Niggas that just go on google to find a stat and think they can speak on a mans career without watching him
This is so accurate lmfao. I be like damn yall clueless about the mamba 🤣🤣
@RecapRico Kobe haters have a unhealthy obsession with him.
Solz hit the nail on the head. Kobe is "inefficient" compared to literally the most efficient shot creators and volume scorers of all time like Lebron, MJ, KD and Steph Curry, however I think that comparison is totally fair. After all, Kobe is considered as good or greater than those guys, right?
Here’s the thing. Most of LeBron’s shots were inside the paint, especially during his first stint with the Cavs and the stint with the Heat. MJ also wasn’t necessarily a good 3 point shooter. Curry and KD are mainly efficient because they’re able to defer to each other or other teammates who don’t mind shooting. With Kobe, every teams strategy was to double team Kobe, which is why the Celtics won in 08 and partly why the Pistons won in 04.
@@B345T1N355Official yeah in 2004 Kobe did have the option of running the offense through Shaq but continued to force shots.
@@B345T1N355Official lebron has a higher TS relative to league average and a higher points per 100 than kobe so he's just straight more efficient because he is able to get more shots at the rim. curry has been hyper efficient basically every season other than his rookie year, and 2019-20 when he played 5 games. defenses also focused strongly on literally every other player you mentioned. and it's not like when Kobe had good teams, even with shaq, he was anymore efficient, in truth he wasn't his TS relative to league everage remained around +0.02% to +0.04% from his second season to hs 13th season with no real increases when he was playing with shaq or pau compared to when his teams were bad. nor were his assists much greater with better team mates, in fact the season right after shaq left he averaged more assists than he ever did with shaq.
@@B345T1N355Official no. KD and Curry have high efficiency because they are great shooters. Don't try to attribute their efficiency to having good teams lol
Try to give the meaning first the of inefficient. Till then you can stop pushing your false case.
This is cool but We need to talk about how Steph Curry's offense affected Lebron's legacy
@@brandonkhouli4972 don’t let this distract YOU from the fact that Shai’s offense is actually facundo compazzo’s defense
@@markomilivojevic4810 So? How does this Lebrons legacy tho?
@@ethanthecuber2596Don't forget wilt chamberlain put 50 ppg for a season
Yall need to chill. Like seriously. This has nothing to do with Robert horry's 7 championships. More than Jordan
Is Steph Curry's triple his double though?
Low Did an amazing job on this video.
Kobe is my favorite player ever!
RIP
Fax
No he’s not. He’s not your favorite
@kints rapist2 Your talking about Kobe right ? Kobe's bad at mid range and from 3? Kobe the guy more skilled than Mj and a better 3 shooter than Bron and has probably gave ya fav player nightmares
@@TheIcemanthomasthe hell? how do you know he's not
Kobe is better than Magic and West at guard? Wilt and Kareem. Worthy and Elgin Baylor. Wilkes? Kobe and LeBron aren't even in the top 6 laker greats. Look up West and Baylor in 60s and the trams they lost to.
"Kobe has the most missed shots, inefficient"
LeBron has the most turnovers in NBA history, not a single person is gonna say he ain't an all time playmaker.
Stuff is goofy
Yeah but Lebron has BY FAR the most points generated (points + assists) in NBA history whereas Kobe doesn’t have the most points in NBA history.
So Lebron having the most turnovers is just normal when he played 20 seasons with a very high Offensive Load and was the best scorer AND playmaker of his team every years except 2020 when AD averaged just 1 more points than him, when you have the ball as much and create as much for 20 seasons its just normal to have the most turnovers but Kobe is the 4th Top scorer of all time in the regular season and has more missed shots than Kareem, Bron and Karl Malone wich mean he isn’t efficient compared to them.
If someone play 20 seasons and have a similar offensive load with 27ppg and 7 assists like Bron then we will be able to compare but right now nobody is really close the closest is Kobe who played 20 seasons, 1346 games and averaged 25ppg and 5 assists and he has 4010 Total turnovers vs Lebron 4878, but Lebron also played 1394 games.
So despite Kobe playing less games and having a lower offensive load he still has almost as much turnover. On the other hand Lebron scored more pts than Kobe, 37860, and only missed 13588 shots while Kobe scored 33643pts and missed 14 481 shots. So Lebron scored 4217 more points than Kobe and missed 893 shots less than him, so Lebron played more games, scored way more points and missed way less shots while Kobe played less games, scored less and made less assists but still has almost as much turnovers as Lebron.
Yeah but LeBron is far more efficient and creates more shots for teammates. He only has half a turnover more than Kobe per game, but almost twice as much assists. Not the same
Solz and sage have become my favorite Duo on UA-cam... Every video is a banger and every take is virtually on point, they hold nothing back and they don't play the BS that every other UA-cam sports analyst plays
Rip Kobe💛💜 respect for the vid being 24 minutes
12:29 can we talk about Kobe crossing Matt Barnes while biting on his jersey😂
The video is exactly 24 minutes, what a nice touch
kobe vid is exactly 24 minutes long 2️⃣4️⃣
In the words on money man
Rip Kobe rip 24
THE GOATS HAVE RETURNED
Kobe won a ring in 2010 with a broken finger on his shooting hand n a bone spur in his ankle
@Noah he ain’t break his hand he wouldn’t be able to dribble if he did. Yk how bad bone spurs can be? He could barely walk n had to get injections during halftime n shit.
@@kingcatkid8567 Who cares?
Kobe doesn't have certain stats and major accolades, so he needs shit like "he played with a broken leg, a brain aneurysm and a gunshot wound, so that makes Kobe greater".
Like if he didn't have bone spurs he'd produce any better. His production is what it is, injured or not.
@@TyroneNBAFan what’s stats n accolades doesn’t he have?
@@kingcatkid8567 Kobes resume and peak are weak compared to other all time greats. That's why Kobe needs "Mamba Mentality" and player testimonials to prop up his legacy. Because he doesn't have the hardware or his name etched into the record books like guys he's constantly compared to.
People claim Kobes the greatest scorer ever, but he only has 2 scoring titles. Westbrook, Harden, Durant, George Gervin, Allen Iverson, guys who aren't even in the top 10, top 20 all time have more scoring titles.
People like to put him top 5, or shit even top 1 or 2 when he has 3 combined MVPs (Finals and regular season). Jordan had 11, LeBron and Kareem 8, Magic 6, Bird, Wilt and Duncan 5. His teammate Shaq has 4, 3 while he was playing with Kobe.
And where does Kobes peak rank? You're telling me he's got a better peak than LeBron, Hakeem, Jordan, Kareem, Shaq? That's 5 right there that he flat out wasn't better than peak for peak. Duncan, Bird, Magic, Wilt and Curry all have strong cases for having better peaks also.
So how can you make an argument for being top 5? Shit it's tough to argue Kobe top 10, top 5 is a stretch for sure.
@@TyroneNBAFan 🤣🤣🤣 ok bit. You never said answered my question n never said a argument to why he isn’t top 5 or even 10. What about competition? Bird faced a 8th seed in the finals right? Magic played with worthy, kareem, Michael cooper, n was 6’9 and never made a all defensive team or couldn’t even shoot a mid range consistently. There was 8 teams when wilt played. Duncan didn’t win every finals mvp n played a “role player” type of role in his last ring. Shaq didn’t do a thing without Kobe either so like I can’t see how he’s better when he didn’t do what he did with him without him. Mfs will keep going when you respond
The actual Goat
respect for making this 24 mintues(for kobe obviously)amazing video as well
I like the little detail you put in making the video twenty four minutes flat for kob
Cool video but did you know that curry’s offense is his defense
@@brandonkhouli4972 what’s this joke?
Yall made the video 24 minutes exactly lol. Nice 👌🏿
2016 open curry three was a 73% true shooting shot which was higher than a rim attempt by lebron james 72% at the rim in that same year. Its a real stat SAGE.
What does this video have to do with Curry? Lol Curry fans are worse than bronsexuals lol
@Noah even so it's insane that this is a real stat
They only started saying he's inefficient the closer he got to goat status.
Nobody was saying that shit when he was dismantling teams with Smush Parker and Kwame brown.
It's just one more Kobe hate narrative that really emerged after the shit in Colorado.
You’ve contradicted yourself, he raped the white girl in 03, so if this ‘narrative’ was created then how in 05/06 when he was ‘dismantling’ (he really wasn’t) with Smush and Kwame was no one saying this?
Kobes efficiency has been overstated, dude still had awful shot selection and his clutch numbers are mediocre
@@hardwoodthought1213
First, he didn't rape the woman. She fucked 3 other guys that night and had a history of partying just like that. At worst, Kobe nearly ruined his life and marriage.
The media never got over that and the incident happened exactly in the order I said it did.
Not sure what's difficult to understand here. The false narrative started after the Colorado incident...
You just up late looking to argue?
"closer he got to GOAT status" 🤣🤣🤣😭
And the talk around Kobes inefficiency started long before the 2005-06 season.
Kobe stans, smh.
Facts bro
@@TyroneNBAFan no it didn't. No one said that shit prior to chip 4.
Let me guess, your looked up some videos? If your not at least 30, gtfo of this discussion. If you're over that, you clearly weren't watching the nba
the 21 ppg scorer with the 50% true shooting is chris webber
Sadly, Kobe being labeled "inefficient" is a byproduct of the GOAT debate where FG% is often the measuring stick to assess a player's efficiency. FALSELY. When he is measured against his peers like MJ, Lebron, Magic or Bird, he always comes off as "inefficient" and people can use this false argument to prop up their players based on their personal preference while simultaneously dragging down other players like Kobe.
Those 4 games you mentioned are not Kobe’s peers. They’re better players than him by far
@@dankenkit naw crazy
@@randomperson2540 not crazy at all, those are 4 top 6 players. Kobe is like 15
@@dankenkit saying Kobe is 15 is crazy bro gotta be a hater
@@randomperson2540 im not hating, let’s keep an honest discussion here. If he wasn’t in LA, he’d be more top 25
Love how it ended at 24:00. Max respect to y’all.
the ballhog narrative had a powerful lasting effect
One issue I have with the premise of the video is that Kobe, to some people a top 3 player of all time, is getting stacked up against League average Ts%, while he should be getting compared to the other superstars of his era, I'd be much more interested to see how he stacks up then
That’s looking through a wider lens. The video specifically aimed at just debunking the “Kobe was inefficient” myth.
If you change the years to 1996 to 2010 or 2004 - 2017 then the graph is completely different. For example Iverson is so low because it doesn’t account for 1996 - 1999 which is better than doing til 2013 where AI wasn’t his best self past 2007 & he retired in 2011. I think for this to be an accurate graph we need to see the true shooting for every players best 13 years instead of only Kobe’s best years
I agree, but this video is just talking about Kobe compared to his piers in his era, so we’re just looking at his best years
@@Anthony01538 Yeah but they only take Kobes best year and all the other players hole career so if you do this you have to take Kobe full career against everybody els full career and not only take Kobe best years and leave out all his bad years to make Kobe look the best
@@mixedpleasure4324 The point of the video was to show during Kobe's prime (which he was a bench player for his first few seasons, and injured his last few) compared to the other volume scorers during that time period, as a relative benchmark for Kobe. In 1996, the league was completely different therefore it would be unfair to compare that to say 2010.
Comparing best years is very misleading, as 2016 Stephen Curry's best year was much more efficient than Larry Bird's best year.
He literally says in the video he compared it to league history and only found 3 years where Kobe was below average. So what more you want?
@@Anthony01538 But he looked at more than that. Yall need to finish the video
Kyrie dropped 50 on 19 shots, with a 101% TS
@kints rapist2 yes which matter ? If you can get more points on the same amount of shots you are more efficient than someone who can't
@kints rapist2 are u dumb?? 3s and free throws make up your total amount of points why would that not be included? that's apart of efficiency lmao. If a player can get to the free throw every time and make them, as boring as that is, its efficent.
Oh wow you guys watched this! Gooood stuffff!!
Ah a man of culture hitting that 24 min mark
Wait till people find out Kobe's TS% in his final game that he scored 60pts in was above league average.
But he was still extremely inefficient. He attempted the most shots of all time in that game
@@traxagenda3445 he shot 44% for that game after missing his first 5 shots. It's not the best percentage but mostly all of his shots were mid range jumpers and threes.
@@traxagenda3445 It’s like ur being ignorant on purpose more shots does not equate to being inefficient
@@traxagenda3445 Incorrect. You are statistically wrong. Literally you are mathematically wrong. Not up for debate. Wrong. You just lied to someone.
@@superxcrazy1989 in the game where he scored 60 points he attempted 37 shots. How is that not true? U kobe stans have no sense of comprehension
Love how this video is 24 mins
Thank you for this video I feel alone when I say this with the fellas
As fan I only remember Kobe raising trophies and hitting big shots in crucial moments.
W for making this 24 minutes also
Thanks for pausing the video and not talking over the video
Let’s clear this up. When most casuals say “Kobe is inefficient”, it’s only when they’re juxtaposing him next to the GOAT Michael Jordan. That, sir, is no argument
I like how you made this video 24 minutes long 👌😉
22:15 actually, Steph is THE most efficient volume scorer ever, and by a big margin, there are 6 players above him in Ts%, they are all paint dominant bigs and Artis Gilmore has the highest ppg at 17.1, then there's Montrezl Harrell, Cedric Maxwell and Rudy Gobert at 12.9, 12.5 and 12.4 respectively, and to round out the six there's DeAndre Jordan at 9.1 and Tyson Chandler at 8.2. So yeah, Steph is pretty much in a league of his own at efficiency, the next guard is Reggie Miller at 16th and Kevin Durant "who was better than him" is at 14th
You could've said that without taking shots at KD, who WAS better than Steph in 2017 and 2018 whether you like it or not. If you compare them in the playoffs, KD was the better scorer and rebounder on a higher FG%. Curry obviously had a better 3pt% and slightly better FT shooting. Steph has never averaged 30+ ppg in the playoffs, while KD has done that 3x. If you compare their finals appearances KD, was the better player between the 2 of them with AND without Steph, contrary to popular belief.
Tbh the only time kd truly outplayed Steph was in the finals together
But I respect your opinion tho
Sage got a bottle of Pantene on his room floor. Let me find out you like silky smooth hair while Steph's offense is his defense.
My guess for that dot at the bottom would PROBABLY be someone like Vince Carter or Gilbert Arenas just off the top of my head for that era
I honestly think the opinion has less to do with the amount of shots taken and more with the level of difficulty in the shots. Anyone who didn't really watch Kobe sees all the mid range double team highlights or his biggest failures and miss all the easy buckets he got that were "too boring for UA-cam". Just cuz those shots are inefficient for your favorite player doesn't mean it was for him.
My line of work is Multimedia Marketing. Those graphs are no joke.
I got one thing to say Kobe didn’t start when he got to the league but he is in the top 5 players in all time scoring let think sink in to people who can’t count
Bro really left out his first and last few years because it would destroy his argument 😂
What i think we forget when we talk about efficiency of shots is the fact that wether its a three point shot missed or a lay up missed both lead to a technical turnover. So isnt true shooting percentage turning a blind eye to that?
We saw the 2004 finals with our own eyes
LOW does say in this video that is a valid criticism of Kobe but all of his prime he is still an efficient scorer.
Kobe Bryant NBA Finals True Shooting Percentage
2000: 41%
2001: 50%
2002: 62%
2004: 46%
2008: 51%
2009: 52%
2010: 53%
TOT: 50%
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The thing that gets lost in the inefficient stat is he was taking tough shots over 2 to 3 defenders regularly kobe rarely got wide open looks at the basket and even with that he was still consistent enough that you didn't expect him to miss
That lower dot could be Steve Francis possibly?
24 minutes exact is nasty work😂😂😂
Kobe isnt inefficient, his true shooting is the same as Tim Duncan’s on his career…
Hes the 2nd best player of all time.
Nope he’s like 6 or 7
Not even top 10 bro. He was number 2 on the lakers when shaq was on it
Sage look and sound like Bomani Jones back when he still had a reason to wear a durag 😂
Timberwolves marriage of Gobert-Towns forced Nets and Durant to reconcile
This is the headlines in the sota 😂😂😆
Only reason is because of the way he went out, in last 3 years of his career winning like 30 games and not accepting a more minor role. If that blip wasn't there he wouldn't be seen in that light ever.
Homie bsolz looking tan, my boy been hitting the grass lately.
Oh it was Webber at the lowest TS % graph
Kobe literally scored 81 on 61% fg and 53% 3pt. Ppl just feel like it's ok to hate on him b/c hes dead and cant defend himself
I love this video kobe is and always has been my favorite can't wait to see your guys reaction to it
Cool vid and all but how does this affect Temetrius Jamel Morant's griddy??🧐🧐
As a UK fan of the nba I think it's wierd that stats is more important than enjoying the game and how it makes you feel
He may attempt low efficient shots, but he makes them.
Don’t let the Kobe slander distract you from the fact that Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double
In an era were diffence doesn't exist. And westbrook can walked 6 steps in a live nba game. That's how du%% he is.
@@kaksmirknight5318Steph’s offense is his defense and how does this affect lebron’s legacy.
19:35 Dirk scored 48 in playoffs vs okc on 15 shots
Bruh can we just acknowledge this dude scored 81 on 46 shots 😳
This also changes when you factor in that Kobe’s teams were bad for a while during that period, and he would play thru injuries. Context matters.
that bottom dot on the graph was bob cousy, sources confirm
Sage’s hoodie is dope asf
Sent a like for Solz applauding the graphic haha
They try to lie challenging the legitimacy supporting the claim that curry’s offense is his defense
So Imo how can we know all this info and understand all this and say he’s not in the GOAT convo, shit is very mind boggling
The media hates him and they’ve managed to brainwash this generation...so they always delusional on Twitter
Cuz he’s not. There’s like 4 or 5 players better
Kobe is my 🐐
the fact that Jordan fans were watching Kobe and were upset that he wasn’t Jordan but could be better than Jordan
My problem with Russell Westbrook’s critiques regarding “stat padding” is that almost no other player, even if they tried to stat pad, could achieve what he did that season.
wow 13:39 KG and TD were so close statistically, few more blocks tim’s way, few more steals Kg. both goat PF’s
Real basketball fans know the difference between layups dunks jump shots and 3 point shooting that’s why you can’t really debate on FG percentages unless the shots are compared in the same shooting area
Does this take into account that in some/most of his playoff runs, Shaq was the main focus for opp teams to stop/slow down because of his dominance?
Shaq won playing with the 2nd and 3rd greatest shooting guard of all time. Kobe did it with gasol.
If anything shaq needed a great guard to access his full potential
Sage got alot of fav players...
Some people tried to tell me that Kobe isn't hated on, they're crazy
1:22 Celtics fans watching Jayson Tatum in the finals.
That’s guy is sure deal guys love y’all
Kobe is most def legendary....but is his offense his defense like Currys?🤔
Is eggs bacon like toast? 🤔
Seriously though is Kobe's offense and defence like currys. I'm trying to learn more about b ball
Steph is better offensively than Kobe but Kobe is better defensively than steph
Steph is better offensively than Kobe but Kobe is better defensively than steph
Advanced stats is why I don't have a UA-cam channel. I'd get killed in the comments and probably banned for false information. But awesome reaction my guys you all keep it real for real.
What, no intro? :(
19:24 - 19:49 THIS bit made me rotf, and I can’t explain it 😂
I think people think Kobe is inefficient because when he had bad nights he would just continue to shoot and put up like 20+ shots and miss a ton of them. That said, Kobe had to shoot like that so that he could also keep shooting when he was hot, and when he was hot it made up for the nights he was cold.
I watched and never was scared of him when my team played him. I knew he going make slightly less than he misses and the perimeter. You can beat that, he’s inefficient.
2:44 EWWWWWW 😂😂😂
Sage you may be right considering that Curry's offense is his defense.
Dudes only know how to look at a stat sheet. Kobe would take tough shots at the end of games which loweres his %, meanwhile LeBron is passing to teammates in the toughest situation
Did they stop on 24 minutes on purpose
But lebron would have dunked with his left 🤷♂️
This dirk nowitzki slander will not go unnoticed dirk had tsp 57.7
Yeah but LeBron would have dunked it with his left
This comment section is already a warzone
I fucks with you guys, cause u educate