RME ADI-2 DAC FS Review - Is This the Best DAC Around $2000?
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Detailed review, well done! I like your point on one sounding better than the other and that result being subjective. Good job!
Thanks Simon, I appreciate it!
I like this too
Great review! I've had my ADI for about a week now and I'm blown away by the sound and versatility of this unit. It's basically an outstanding headphone amp, DAC, and DSP all in one box. The only downside for me was the steep learning curve. The factory reset option came in handy a few times - ha!
Haha - I'll bet it did! Glad you're enjoying it - it's a beast of a unit
Do not believe such statements that adi-2 dac "PERFORMS better" Than pro version. Adi-2 pro is flagship and have TWO chips, the cheaper version of it is Adi-2 dac, where they removed ALL AD features and make it simpler for hi-fi users. Basically it is the same, with the same performance, junior model in adi-2 line with different hp input layout. Do not believe that someone somewhere said it is better, but where? The answer is simplicity. Rme has always been a pro gear company, it is not surprise that their pro dac hits the 1st place in hi-fi world, rme are Germans and they won't do a cheaper model a better one and more hi-end. It is a fairy tale otherwise.
Hi Sting, I don't think anyone is claiming anything about the consumer vs pro versions here
Thanks for the informative and comprehensive review.
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful
Nice detailed review like always. Good job!
Thanks Oleg!
Excellent review! Thanks so much for sharing.
My pleasure, Eric!
That intro was really nice! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Gregor. I'm working really hard on upping my B-Roll quality so hopefully this is the beginning of an upward trend!
Great review as always! Thank you!
My pleasure
That's probably the best explanation I've ever heard of Parametric EQ vs regular EQ. Nice!
Thanks Jim!
The other difference is that PEQs not only allow peaks. There are also low/high shelf settings (and more you won't need), that increase the low or high end of the entire spectrum starting at a set frequency. Combined with peaks, it allows for extremely smooth manipulation
Great point, lgolem
I just bought this for the neutral sound everyone says it has. You convinced me. I've been shopping around for awhile, watched all the reviews, listened to the experts and I believe this is what I'm looking for. I'll be using it as a preamp mostly, not too much headphone use. I miss visualizers and UV meters in systems too, I was a child of the 70's and 80's, so that's kind of cool too. I usually don't eq, but they are fun to mess with. I really hope I like it. I've been using my AVR for movies and 2 channel for a while, it's a good sounding system with a separate amp for my fronts, but not like 2 channel. I am finally going to have a true 2 channel system again, YES! Thanks for you're very detailed and informative video, very professional, articulate and to the point. BTW I paid $1150 us
Hi Eric, I agree about the enjoyment of the visualisations - it brings a nice charm to the system. I hope you love it too - it seems to be a DAC that speaker users prefer vs headphone users so hopefully you'll love it!
Great review! Definitely want to try the RME someday. Moondrop too!
It's definitely worth trying! Good luck in the draw!
Thank you for the detail review
You're welcome!
Thanks for your review. Can’t wait for the comparison video with the Qutest as those are two main candidates for a DAC to be used with my Auralic Aries Mini
Coming very soon - hopefully Monday (Aus time)
Looking forward to the comparison!
It's in the editing software and on its way ..
Beautiful review, thank you.
So glad you liked it!
Great review. Been looking for a native EQ enabled DAC for a while. Thanks
Thank you. Sounds like you've found your perfect DAC! 🙂
I absolutely love how functional it is. Both the DAC and AMP section sounds super clean (compared to my old Burson Conductor), and the PEQ + Tone controls with remote is heaven for someone like me who likes to make small adjustments and don't wanna rely solely on software solutions.
The functionality of the ADI-2 is top notch for sure
I just sold Burson conductor 3r that I used with 32 ohm lsa hp 2 headphones so I never really needed that extra power of Burson . I'm trying to decide what to get next maybe this RME or aune s9c for best dynamic and clean sound with strong bass ....
Great review again
Thanks Harry!
Very nice review of the ADI-2 DAC! Technically, it really has 7 bands of PEQ though.... the treble and bass knobs can be custom EQ'd as well (though more limited frequency range). I initially bought mine for a DAC preamp of an electrostat rig, using stereo speaker amp (NAD C275BEE) into Mjolnir SRD-7 estat transformer to drive STAX compatible estats. The PEQ, crossfeed, balance adjustment, analyzer display, and USB implementation were the main factors in my getting it for estat setup. Also ran it as preamp for stereo speaker setup using same NAD amp, and it was beautiful in that role as well.
ADI-2 DAC worked very well with my modded STAX SR-L300 Limiteds (L700 pads & headband + sealed pads with blutac), SR-404 Limiteds, Nectar Sound, and Kaldas Research RR-1 Conquest, where it's clean, precise sound did help. For my dynamics headphones though, I didn't like it as much using the onboard amp... specifically Denon/Fostex biodyna driver ones - neutral reference amps are simply not good pairing for them for my preference... too thin sounding and lacking in low end presence - I liked warm, powerful SS amps with biodynas.
Eventually sold estat gear along with all estats, then ended up pairing the ADI-2 DAC with a hybrid tube amp (Garage 1217 Project Ember II)... Now that really awakened things with the biodyna's - REALLY good sounding especially once the right tubes were matched to them (which would be a Mullard 6201, Sovtek 6H30Pi, or Reflector 6H23n-EB). An amp with tubes is absolutely the way for me with the RME ADI-2 DAC... clarity and detail is kept, but also smooth the treble a bit and gain some extension, plus get that separation, 3D spacial presentation, and live feel which tubes do so well.
As of now actually have 11 bands of hardware EQ because have Schiit Loki with the ADI-2 DAC... LOL
RME ADI-2 is best value that can be had in a DAC... like you said, it's so powerful in what it can do, don't think there is any other DAC out there that has it's capability at any price point. Sound wise though, I did generally prefer the Gustard X20U I had until just recently for its overall smoother, more fluid sound along with better low end presence. It just didn't have the clarity and quite the detail of the ADI-2 DAC. X20U was just sold to coworker after I demoed his Gold Planar GL2000 and ifi Zen Can amp with it for 5 days ... made for a very good pairing and he was looking for a balanced DAC to run into the ifi Zen Can.
Thanks for the detailed comments! I think you've demonstrated really well that each product has its place and use case. Not all products work well in all situations.
Thank you so much for the great review again! :)
Any chance reviewing the Focal Utopia and Elex?
Thank you and you're welcome! I'm looking into the Utopia at the moment. Just have to find a way to get a pair on loan because I can't afford to buy them 🙂
Thank you for the review
You're welcome!
PfS: "Obviously there is a power button there, you need one of those..."
Schiit Audio: *sweating quietly in the corner*
LOL, or not according to my recent interview with Jason Stoddard. His reasoning made sense when viewed from a whole-of-range perspective.
Really a very ideal unit for those who have common headphones (and if I've wanted harder to drive headphones, maybe just add bigger amplifier, to connect it to) and love iem's. Really have wanted this unit, be great to have it. Excellent review..👍🏼
Thanks Joshua. Yes, it's really a perfect unit for anyone into audio and will happily drive most headphones to a pretty good sound quality. Connect a good external amp and you're approaching endgame territory.
Great review !
Thanks, suisiruy!
Great review Thanks
Thanks Edward. You're welcome!
I've always thought the digital spectral analyser on the ADI-2 was a lovely aesthetic feature and is really recognisable in photos and product shots. There's something nostalgic about seeing VU meters and spectral analysers on audio equipment, even if they're presented on an LCD screen.
I agree. I love it too! It's also quite fun seeing the frequency spread of different recordings where older jazz tracks might roll off pretty fast at both ends while modern tracks are active end-to-end on the spectrum.
well it is aesthetic but it's more for functional puroposes as this is meant for sound engineers.
Yes, that's a good point
Just pulled the trigger and ordered one of these … excited !
Hope you love it!
It was an excellent and honest review. I have been following your channel for some time and like your thorough approach. I had seen other reviews but it was yours that tipped the scales for me to purchase the DAC that I intend to hook up to my Melco server and Buchardt S500 speakers.
Forgot to mention that I have sennheiser HD800’s that I’m hoping to tame on their top end and also some Focal Utopia’s that I love.
So glad I could help! The EQ power of the ADI-2 should be very helpful with the HD800s!
@@PassionforSound keep up the good work …
I have two of these units. You can preamp the output to another headphone amp and run most headphones as a result. The dac is excellent with lots of features. It’s headphone stage is wow outstanding and low noise floor.
You must really like it to have 2, but I can totally understand it - it's a great and versatile unit!
Great review! I am really keen on this thing, and think I'll buy one.
It's definitely a nice bit of gear. The Chord Qutest, Schiit Bifrost 2 and Topping D90 MQA are also all worth considering in this price/performance range.
@@PassionforSound what about the String Sexiest, Tuurd Triscorch 3 and Midling E80 NPB though?
LoL. You should start an audio company!
Thank you for the most thorough, detailed and helpful review of the RME so far. I hope you'll get the chance to review the Burson Composer 3x Dac to compare. Your wonderful review of the Burson soloist convinced me that the sololist will be my next amp. I wonder if the Burson dac+amp stack is a better choice than mixing the soloist with the RME or the Schiit Bifrost. The visual mismatch is probably what keeps me from deciding :)
Hi Astro, I need to follow up with Burson because they had some stock shortages late last year. I would probably choose the Burson over the ADI-2 even without hearing the Composer, but the Bifrost 2 is a different question and it's very hard to beat! Hopefully I can provide definitive answers soon...
Couldn't agree more...I'm in the same camp...still trying to decide on these amp/dac mixes.
I've since reviewed the Composer 3XP and also the Conductor 3X GT if those can help.
@@PassionforSound Yes, thank you - I've watched both these excellent reviews. Largely because of your reviews, I bought the Meze Elites and Soloist XP and am very happy. I guess the obvious choice of external DAC would be the Composer XP which looks very good, but just shopping around in the maze of sub-$2000 DAC's is bewildering! Great channel and content...IMHO, you should have many more subs...am sure you will get there!
Thanks Marc! The Composer is a lovely DAC for sure. There are some other gear choices depending on budget, but you can't go too far wrong with the Composer for sure
Another great review, thank you. There's so much power in the ADI. All the control and configuration options are very appealing to me. I imagine that's why a lot of people are interested in this device. This seems like a great option for someone who really wants a quality setup and doesn't already have an investment in electronics. For a buyer who doesn't already have an investment in DACs and Amps, this could be the only device they ever need. For those who decide they want a really great dedicated and balanced amp could add one down the road. It would be great if you could configure and control the ADI from an external device such as your computer, your phone or an iPad. I imagine being able to control the unit via a touchscreen iPad would make everything a lot easier and more intuitive. Of course adding support for network or Bluetooth connectivity would add complexity and cost.
That would be very cool!
Great idea!
You’ve just cost me €900!!!! Great review. Thank you.
Sorry about that, Simon, but you'll be thanking me later! 😉
Great review, the RME Audio UA-cam channel has a complete walkthrough of all the menu options.
That's great to know. Thanks for sharing, Andrew!
Thx for this wonderful detailed yet engaging review of the ADI-2. Three questions:
1. How much colouration can you add with EQ vs a separate warmer amp?
2. How does the build in amp sound with the Focal Clear and do you advice that combo to start with? As the Focal Clears is a bit coloured and also sounded ok with the THX789 I recollect.
3. Are the outputs on the back (balanced and unbalanced) divided? So can you attach a set of speakers and headphone amp and do individual settings on both?
Thx :)!
Hi Gerard, glad you liked the review. Here are some answers (although I don't have the ADI-2 here anymore as it was a loan unit):
1) an EQ can add a little colouration or a heap. An amp shouldn't really add anything more than a touch of character (e.g. smoothness)
2) the inbuilt amp is pretty neutral so it will sound great with the Clears.
3) from memory, both rear outputs are split, but you might want to confirm with RME before buying
Excellent, thank you
You're welcome!
Set this up with my Empyreans today using oratory1990's EQ for the RME. Truly astounding!
Fantastic! Glad you're njoying it, Jeff! 🙂
Oratory1990 has some EQ instructions somewhere?
great explanation why some DACs sound different
Thanks Maarkus!
Great review. Do you think the CHORD QUTEST DAC sounds better than the RME ADI-2 ?
I do. Have you seen my comparison review of the two of them?
Getting ready to purchase this over the Mytek Brooklyn DAC
I'm yet to try a Mytek. I doubt you can go too far wrong either way though
I love the Parametric EQ, the dac filter options and the Crossfeed funktion on mine, and it's not complicated to use at all once you learn how it works, German engineering at its best, and I highly recommend it.
Glad you're enjoying it. The features are definitely very powerful
Waiting for this one to arrive together with my new a90 - should drive my Aryas much better than the Fiio M15 I'm using right now! Your video definitely helped me choose this one!
Glad I could help! Enjoy your new setup
What do you think of the a90 amp vs the ADI-2?
@@etin97 purely for sound and power, the a90 hands down - plus I like a clean signal. But if you like eq and a plethora of options, the adi is really the better option
I'd second this. The ADI-2 internal amp is comparable to the Drop THX AAA 789 amp. The A90 is noticeably superior to the 789 and therefore the ADI-2 as well. ADI-2 is great for an all-in-one, but the A90 has a lot more space dedicated to pure amplification and nothing else.
Also perfectly timed, as I've just been looking to get one of these too! And I see that the comparison video for this and the Qutest has just come up. I'll have to leave that until tomorrow though, it's getting a bit late now.
Good luck with your decision making. Hopefully the comparison video helps
@@PassionforSound Thanks! But I'm just interested to know what your impressions are. I'm already set on the ADI-2 over the Qutest. It has more functionality as a DAC, it's a headphone and IEM amp too, and it's much cheaper used on top of that. Plus, the looks of my equipment matters to me too, and between you and me, I've always thought that Chord's stuff are serious eyesores.
Ah, cool. All good that you've made your choice. I personally like the Chord designs, but I agree with you on every other point and I also really like the look of the ADI-2.
I appreciate the compactness of it as an all-in-one unit too. I'm impressed with how compact the Qutest is, but as just a DAC, that isn't as beneficial in itself; how it fits together with the rest of the gear is what matters, and in certain cases something bigger can end up being better!
Really good, in depth review. The kind of details that really help when deciding where to lay down funds. Your curse is we always want more. So, since you're doing a comparison between the RME ADI-2 and the Chord qutest, how about running them both against the Denafrips ares II.
Thanks and keep rolling them out.
Thanks Patrick. Glad it's helpful. I can't compare them directly to the Ares II, but I did just finish editing an Ares II review with comparisons to the Schiit Modius, Topping D50S/P50 combo and the Topping D90. It's due out two Saturdays from now
@@PassionforSound Thank you for the heads up. Maybe you need a board to rank them. You could update the board after each review (yea, it's a little like grade school). But at least we'd get an idea of apples to DACs.
I tried that once with my old website, but trying to get that black and white actually does everyone a disservice because it's impossible to correctly weight sound quality, features, price, design, etc. in ways that are accurate for everyone.
@@PassionforSound I feel like its kind of a copout to compare and rate some and not others. But hey, its your vids.
Not a cop-out, Patrick. I have to buy most of the gear I review or sometimes I get it on loan for about 3-4 weeks. Having everything available at all times for comparison is basically impossible for a small channel which currently costs me A LOT more than it makes. I would love to get to the point where I can have everything here all the time and intend to do so once I can afford to, but I'm not there yet.
I have one coming this weekend😏
Fantastic! Enjoy
I’d love to own the ADI-2!
It's a great DAC Ceko
I love me RME ADI 2 FS. The onboard PEQ is outstanding. Its a great sounding DAC. So many great inclusions:
PEQ (Independent channel control), IEM/SE amp, XLR and RCA outputs, variable loudness, pre and post monitoring, balance control!, preamp volume, selectable gain, it goes on and on...... The RME ADI 2 is easily the best DAC in its price range. Very clean sounding, so if you are looking for R2R richness - best to look elsewhere, or partner with richer sounding amplification or valves etc.
Hi Stephen, the feature set is unparalleled, isn't it? I do think some DACs best it for realism and overall SQ, but nothing comes close for controls and versatility!
@@PassionforSound awesome. The hifi game is so subjective, what works for one, maybe doesn’t for another. I also listen via a Firstwatt F7 to my speakers, which does help make the sound more enjoyable. :)
I just noticed, it seems we are neighbours. Maybe I’ll see you around sometime. I’m curious, have you compared the RME to the latest topping d90 MQA.
Hi Stephen, yes, system synergy, music tastes and personal preference all play a huge part!
Are you a fellow Melbournian?
I did try the D90 MQA (actually only just sold it) and I slightly preferred it's sound to the unadjusted ADI-2, but it has nowhere near the ADI-2's functionality.
@@PassionforSound Yes, South East Suburbs. Interesting feedback. The RME has no equal when function and sound quality is weighed collectively, But..... features like EQ, which I believe are highly valuable (possibly mandatory in many circumstances) can easily be done in Roon (or similar), via convolution or PEQ filters. But.... IMO, the onboard hardware DSP sounds better v;s software. In any case I'll be looking to move my RME ADI 2 to a desktop position soon (and out of my listening space), as I look to grab an Okto DAC8 Pro for a custom DIY active speaker setup using Roon software crossover/room filters. Should be fun.
I tend to agree about the potential quality of the DSP from software and hardware, but I guess it all depends on the devices/software too.
Sounds like you're putting together a really nice setup! Enjoy!
I'm also south east (Bayside) so it's quite likely we'll cross paths at some point, particularly if the Melbourne HiFi Show is ever able to happen again.
Just watched this video and... My damn wallet is on fire again, your killing me bro! lol, Great review, This has always been my endgame dac, and as high as I ever wanted to go, Thank you for the great review of it....as my finger hovers above the place order screen on my phone!!! Cheers
Haha. Sorry and you're welcome?
Thanks for the review. I have an ADI-2 on order. If you are familiar with the Headamp GS-X mini, would that amp be good choice to use with the ADI-2, and would it be a significant improvement over the headphone outputs of the ADI-2 alone? Also, if you are familiar with the Sony TA-ZH1ES, how does the ADI-2 compare in sound quality?
Sorry Robert, I can't help with either of those from experience. From what I've heard/read, I'd expect the GS-X mini to be an upgrade from the ADI-2 inbuilt amp though.
After watching a number of your reviews - as well as a few others - I finally ordered one of these bad boys and just hooked it up!
I’m sure I’m not using it to its fullest - and I definitely don’t have the ear that you do - but so far I have to say it sounds fantastic. (which is to be expected) - but really really good.
I was coming from a Schiit Modi/Magni stack - so it’s a massive upgrade on paper - but it does seem to actually be multiples better. Like going from 1080p to 4k. It’s also just a nice piece of kit generally.
Now have to figure out what to do w/ my old gear ... can’t decide if it makes sense to sell it or to keep it is backup or move to a different room for the occasional listening ...
Anyways ... thanks for your videos and reviews! Cheers,
So glad I could help you make a purchase you're so happy with! Thanks for telling me. 🙂
As for the old gear, it's not a bad idea to keep a backup, but depending on the age of the Magni/Modi you could maybe get good money back on them and then buy something else later if you need it. It's always a tough call...
Great channel ! Highly informative ! Especially since I’m new to the hi-end headphone game. I just ordered the LCD-X and I understand they benefit from EQing. Which brings me to this unit after after considering lots of others. I like all-in-1 and being able to easily move throughout house. Its about 95% my budget. 2 things though...While my hp are 20 ohm/103db and come SE anyway, Is the fact it’s not a “balanced output” a concern ? Not better ? Lastly is headroom when paired with the efficient LCD-X. audiosciencereview had it at 1.5 Watts driving in-efficient Ether CX 23 ohm/92db. Seems like it would be ok but again, I’m new. Still reading. Extensively. Thanks for a great channel !
Hi Evo, you should be absolutely fine to drive the LCDs with the ADI-2 in terms of power. And don't worry about balanced output as it's only real benefit is greater power delivery which isn't necessary here.
Thanks for that reply. Last question, I have a 2019 MacBook Pro, would it make more sense to buy just a quality amplifier and not spend the extra on a DAC ? I’ve heard I’d have to spend quite a bit of money to outdo the DAC already in my MacBook Pro.
I haven't heard the MacBook Pro, but it's an interesting question. The amp in the ADI-2 is quite good, but you'll be able to get a lot more performance out of the LCDs with an even better amp (it's not a question of power so much as resolution, etc.). You could look at something like the Chord Hugo 2 as a better all-in-one, but it won't give you the EQ options. Otherwise, you could start with a separate amp first and add a DAC later. Something like the Schiit Jotunheim 2 or Buson Soloist 3X would be great. Or the Burson Composer (their all-in-one DAC and amp) is another option.
Great review, the RME seems like a complicated beast but probably worth the tinkering.
Possible replacement to my ifi iMicro Black Label.
Hey Gill, long time no see!! The ADI-2 will be a huge upgrade (even though the iDSD is great) and while there's plenty of tweakable options, you can also just plug it in and go for it.
@@PassionforSound How you've been Lachlan. I have a few DACs lying around but always reach for the ifi.
BTW the S. E. X you built for me is still kicking ass even after 7 years.
That's great to hear about the S.E.X. I sometimes miss mine since I sold it, but there's only so much space!
That's a beautiful desk.
Thank you. It's a DIY using a simple pine benchtop with a light whitewash to prevent yellowing. 🙂
Great video. Very well explained. Question: can the RME ADI-2 DAC FS be used as a preamp into a power amp for 2-channel audio through main speakers? Is there simultaneously signal in both the balanced and RCA outputs (so I can use the balanced interconnects for the main speakers and RCA outputs for subwoofers)? Is the output voltage level high enough to be able to drive power amps to their rated outputs? Thanks.
These questions above assume that I only use digital inputs and no analog inputs into the DAC.
The DAC will only take digital inputs so you're good on that note. As for the outputs - both RCA and XLR run concurrently so all good there and the output voltage is highly adjustable so you can tweak it to exactly what you need for the amps you're using.
Hello from Greece very good detailed review I am your new follower, I have quite good active speakers (adam tensor beta) along with (antelope zodiac gold) which is old I want to upgrade which one would you suggest in between REM ADI-2 FS, IFI IDSD PRO OR DENAFRIP PONTUS thank you from the bottom of my heart Tolis
Hi Tolis, I haven't yet heard either the Pontus or iDSD Pro, but I would expect the Pontus and iDSD to be better than the ADI-2. It will then come down to the type of presentation you like: smooth and spacious (Pontus) or more neutral (iDSD)
hi there great vid
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it 🙂
Has the best remote of any of the volume DACs. Has cool locking power input and you can use an AQ fig 8 cord into the step down box. Better value than Benchmark DAC3. Amir told me this was his SQ pick out of his 35 DACs and I see why.
It's definitely got some great features, but I disagree with Amir on the sound quality front. It's very good, but not the best IMO, but that's with headphones and speakers may be different, not too mention system synergies
Hi and congrats for another excellent review. Can I use the ADI-2 also as a preamp-and dac- for the Acoustic Energy AE1 active speakers?Thanks
Hi IP, I can't see any reason it wouldn't work beautifully.
@@PassionforSound Thank you very much👍
You're welcome!
My setup...👌👌👌
@@surfrico I guess you're quite happy with this system. I haven't yet pull the trigger on the ADI2 I'm still using the chord mojo directly into the AE1's which is very inconvenient and annoying. I'm assuming the ADI 2 would be an improvement over the Mojo not only functionally but also sound wise. Could you shed some more light please? Thanks
Rewatching the review again, It's been a while. Good review. I think in 2021 they changed DAC from AK4493 to ESS9028Q2M measures similar but the DAC will definitely have it's impact in sound, I think it will sound even more sterile, as I have already experienced by share of ESS sound through my LGV30 ESS9218P it was a solid device I still have it as a DAP but it has a lot of bright character to it, Mids esp. Lows are great. While my Schiit Modi AK4490 has a smooth sound.
Now the AK4493 is only available on the ADI 2 PRO (it has 2x of them). Right now DAC FS is selling for $920+tax and PRO is for $1300+tax at Thomann. I'm debating on which one to get, the NOS filter on AKM chips in both ADI 2s is better as it gives that smooth sound. ESS doesn't have it and replaced with Brickwall filter. Next the RME guys are finally admitting their poor power supply and giving a ground option with 2/4Pro which is insanely expensive at $2000+ it has ESS chips and some more features etc.
Thanks for sharing this info. Yes, the version I tried was the original, AKM design. Sometimes the ESS designs can sound less aggressive though because they're such a different chip to work with and will force a completely new DAC stage design so the results are sometimes an improvement towards ESS and sometimes not 🙂
@@PassionforSound Oh I see,.. hm not sure how their tuning could be with new ESS design. But yeah one more piece of information now that you mentioned, RME had a patch wire during that AKM factory issue, basically they soldered a wire when they started using ESS chips. On ASR someone caught but no reply fro RME, they revised the board later on now. Thank you for reply !!
There is no sound difference between the chips.
Great review, thank you.
You're very welcome!
ADI 2 FS with Avantone Pro Planar is absolutely amazing, listening to the music and not my gear.
So glad to hear you're enjoying the setup! I haven't heard the Avamtones yet - sounds like something I should add to my list...
Which do you think has better all around sound for an all in one dac / amp...the RME ADi-2 or the Burson Composer 3(x)? Great video..thanks for sharing! I have the HiFiman Aryas and they are a little weak on bass so trying to figure if the Burson or the RME would be better...
If you're looking for DAC and amp, the Conductor is the one you want from Burson. As for which is better, that's tough. The ADI-2 has the EQ for the extra bass while the Conductor would require some op-amp rolling which is less precise and requires more experimentation. I would choose the Conductor in general, but that's not factoring in if you need EQ. If EQ is important then ADI-2 all the way. 🙂
@@PassionforSound - thanks for the info. Do you think the RME would be able to give enough bass to the Arya's without ruining the overall purity of the sound? Also, would the RME have enough power for the Arya's without being near max vol? Thaks again for your help and the time you put in making your great videos!
I can't answer the bass question because it really depends on how much you personally think is enough.
As for power, the Aryas aren't as difficult to drive as people say they are. For normal listening levels and if you're not going crazy with the EQ, you should be fine.
Hi. I currently have an RME ADI-2 DAC - can you put the Chrord M-Scaler with the RME DAC? How big an improvement in SQ would that give? Was thinking of upgrading the RME to a Chord Hugo TT2 and then saving up for an MScaler later on. But maybe I'd getter faster improvements by adding the MScaler to the RME and then later on upgrading the RME to a TT2? Any views?
Hi Nicholas, I don't have an ADI-2 here anymore (it was a loaner), but my experience with other similar quality DACs would suggest that you'll get good improvements with the M-Scaler. Whether the TT2 or the M-Scaler is the better first step is hard to say. If you're using the onboard ADI-2 amp, the TT2 will give you a bigger jump I think. If you're using an external amp, the M-Scaler might be the best bet
Very in-depth review! Debating between this and the Schiit Gugnir Multibit to pair with my Sennheiser HD660s. Which would you recommend (I prefer "warmer" sound signature with larger soundstage and instrument separation)? For reference I am currently using ifi Micro idsd Signature feeding the affordable Loxjie P20 balanced tube amp (pretty affordable but amazing results using the xlr output). Or would you recommend instead to spend the same money on better headphones such as the Hifiman Aryas or Focal Clear MG's and continue using current dac and amp?
That's an interesting question! If you're happy with the HD660S, I wouldn't look to change headphones. If you are wanting something different then changing the headphones will have more impact than the DAC. If you are going to change the DAC, I think the Gumby will give you better warmth and soundstage depth.
@@PassionforSound Cool, thanks for the advice! I went ahead and ordered the Arya
Great. Hope you enjoy them. I'm finishing my Ananda review soon and if the Aryas are better (which I believe they are) then you're in for a treat
@@PassionforSound Awesome! I actually had the Anandas for about a month from Amazon - along with Beyerdynamic 177X, Ultrasone 900i, Sony MDR Z7M2 and Audeze LCD-1 - but I ended up returning all other than the 660s. But now I miss the sound of the Ananda lol. The only problems I had with the Ananda was the build quality (for the price), the aesthetics (subjective) and they were a tad too bright/harsh at times. But they were amazing compared to the others. So yes I am excited for the Arya's and looking forward to your review of the Ananda.
That was quite a collection your tried! I'm looking forward to eventually trying the HD660S too
One thing no one really talks about is how is the quality of Adi-2 FS’ preamp if used to drive active speakers directly vs a separate dac and preamp combo. This is another important assessment of this all-in-one unit.
Hi Isaac, it's a good question and something I do with units like this myself. Driving active speakers should be comparable to an external headphone amp so everything I said about the qualities of the DAC will stay true for using it to drive actives. The control available for all outputs is really helpful too because you can customise the sound going to your actives. Just beware that the XLR and RCA outs are combined in the output settings as "line out" so you can't have one customised for actives and the other for an external headphone amp.
Passion for Sound thanks for your reply. Got it 👍.
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Passion for Sound I will. What a good surprise! Thank you.
Passion for Sound great news! I have replied earlier using my email at isaacchew@protonmail.com. Do take a look. Thanks!
One very important question. If I mix my music on this DAC,will the sound quality be the same if played on different speakers as I've herd it while mixing on it?
It will depend on the speakers and headphones you use for the mix, but I'm confident that the DAC won't be adding any colour (nor will the built in headphone amp)
Other than the obvious adjustability of the RME ADI-2 and all in one unit, could you make a sonic comparison to the simplicity of Denafrips Ares ll r2r
Thank you very much for your time and thoughts.
BTW............ great reviewer!
Hi Jerry, glad you like the reviews!
The Ares II is a much smoother and more spacious sounding DAC, but it's also a bit slow and lacking resolution compared to the hyper-resolving ADI-2. To me, these two products are at opposite ends of the apectr with the ADI-2 being fast, forward and ultra-resolving. The Ares II is a bit slow, laidback and a touch smoothed over. Both have their benefits for certain music and certain setups, but I prefer something between the two like the Burson Composer or Schiit Bifrost 2.
How does it stand against aune s16 ? Thanks for your review!
I haven't heard the S16 yet - sorry
Can you tell something about which filter settings you used in the comparision between the RME and the Chord?
If the treble sounds a little bit too sharp for you, maybe a "slow" filter setting on the RME will sound better to you.
Hi Faltze, I used the default SD Sharp on the ADI-2 and the Incisive Neutral filter on the Qutest. I deliberately stuck with these because they are kind of the default for each device straight out of the box. I did try the other filters on the ADI-2, but they don't have enough impact to change my findings in the comparison.
Thx for your answer!
Thank you for your reviews .... much appreciated. I would really appreciate for those of us who have been out of the circuit for awhile and are interested in catching up and updating our systems so we can stream music ..... Can you give us some simple options / recommendations for the wiring a laptop into the system using the above mentioned DAC ?
Hi Cris, I'm not entirely sure that I understand your question. The ADI-2 uses a simple USB connection so it's literally plug and play.
@@PassionforSound Yes, thank you .... I now understand that I will need a USB C to a USB A cable to do that from my Macbook pro. Is the quality / brand of cable very important ? What would you recommend? I guess I could borrow the RCA cables from my CD player to then connect the DAC to my AUX connection of my Primare Integrated Amp. That should be all the need to get running well, correct ?
Some will say not to worry about USB cables, but I personally think they make a difference. I'm not sure who makes quality USB C to USB A cables, but maybe look at Wireworld, Supra and Oyaide to see if anything comes up. It's a minor improvement though so don't stress too much. After that, you can use your existing RCAs as you thought and can connect it to any input other than Phono (if it has one)
@@PassionforSound Thanks ever so much .....much appreciated. Stay well
You're welcome. You too
Hello, great content. I just got the RME ADI2 ...can you suggest a few headphones under $1000 that would be best for this DAC. Thank you.
Hi Stephen, what type of sound are you looking for? There are quite a few good options, but it depends on your tastes/needs.
@@PassionforSound I will be listening mostly jazz and classical
I'd probably go for something like the HD6XX, HD660, or a HiFiMan like the Sundara (or one of the higher models).
Amir over at ASR uses this to direct drive his Levinson / Revel system. He told me he went thru about 40 DACs and this was his fav for sound quality but he doesn't use the gadgets (his words). Must sound really good I guess
It's definitely a nice DAC. I personally think you can do better for the money (or less), but I listen with headphones, not speakers and that does make a difference.
Did you try the Slow filter on the ADI-2? It tames that sharpness that I think you're talking about.
Yes, I generally use slow filters because I enjoy their sound. The ADI-2 is just a more aggressive DAC than I prefer
Hello my friend!
Do you know how this dac compare to the Matrix mini i pro 3 ? Soundwise which is better? Cheers!
I haven't tried the Mini I Pro yet so can't really comment - sorry!
You are the first UA-camr that could articulate what I heard on my RME DAC, it has some harshness in the 1-4khz range, where no matter what, I can't EQ it out without losing clarity, and it has some harshness in ~8k range
I don't like that, and you can't EQ it out with 7 band EQ onboard of that DAC
BUT...sound stage is pulled back, like the source is further back. Compared to my Saffire Pro 40.
I am returning RME DAC, because I don't see the level of perfection that is claimed by RME on this one. It's a solid unit, but not 1299 USD worth, imo.
Yes, the RME is quite overrated IMO. It has amazing adjustability, but the sound was too harsh for me. Sorry that it didn't work out for you either.
@PassionforSound Thank you for detailed video, it was kind of painful to watch, knowing I hear the same thing, but expected heaven coming out of the speakers with RME.
I ordered a FET compressor. I want to try something as a last resort. I will run output from RME into 2 channel compressor and see if I can change the harshness by more low end nature of FET transistors and Jensen transformer in mine.
FET compressor types darken and color the sound, so it might directly "eq" that harshness out, and it does have De-Esser.
We shall see! 😁
In fact, SMSL SU-9 Pro sounded much better in the low end, and sound was way more dense and detailed.
That's really interesting. I've never heard of FET compressors before. I'm guessing it's essentially a physical compressor that works in the same way as software compression in audio editing suites?
Should I go for this or a second hand Hugo 2? Looking at upgrade my Mojo, mostly desktop use.
Hugo 2 will be the better sounding device, but without the features and functions of the ADI-2
How does it stand against aune s16 ? Thanks for your review
I haven't heard the S16 to comment - sorry
I'm torn on having a screen/additional functions. I feel like I would be continually fiddling rather than enjoying the sound.
Is it possible to setup profiles for eq etc so it's easier to move between different setups (headphones/preamp/?
I understand what you mean. I think I'd spend the first 2-3 weeks constantly playing till I got it "just right" and would then just leave it be. You can setup multiple different EQ presets and the settings are unique to each output so you could have an EQ for your line-out to active monitors and then a flat response for headphones (for example). The unit will switch automatically. It's really clever and powerful.
@@PassionforSound thankyou
Please can you tell me if this is worth upgrade over my Ifi iDSD Micro Black Label? Thanks, great video!
Hi Stefan, glad you liked the content! I believe it will be a large upgrade. I haven't tried the black label, but owned the standard iDSD for quite some time and the ADI-2 is on a very different level.
@@PassionforSound really great review there, bro. Keep it up. Thanks for response. You just made my mind even more focused on RME (after i manage to sell my Ifi). 👍
Glad I could help. Enjoy your new toy! 🙂
I wonder if one can adjusts the settings (filters/eq/tones) so that it closes up or beat the qutest?
Simply put, no. It's a very good DAC, but the differences between this and the Qutest aren't frequency related. They're about the entire design of the DAC from the chip used, the use of the in-built filters, the output stage, etc. It's good at all these things, but the Qutest just renders the sound more 3-dimensionally and with more refinement and note weight (not thickness, just presence). Unfortunately, none of these things can be adjusted with the ADI-2's settings based on my experience of it. It's still a great DAC though so I don't mean to knock it.
Again, thanks. What's you recommendation for a DAC around A$1000? I have 2 very nice headphone amps, so I would rather spend the $ on a DAC only w/o HP Amp. Much appreciated.
Hi Corey, definitely the Schiit Bifrost 2 is my favourite DAC around that price. The Soncoz SGD-1 is also impressive, but doesn't have the depth of soundstage that the Bifrost 2 offers.
Thank you...cheers
Hi Lachlan, Just wondering what would a great headphone to go with the RME for someone who listens to orchestral music? For the price range of $500 to $800. Many thanks.
I'd probably recommend the HiFiMan Edition XS, HiFiMan Ananda or Verum 1. I've just completed a review including all these (focussed on the Edition XS) so sit tight for a thorough set of comparisons very soon!
@@PassionforSound awesome!
Forgot to mention the Denafrips Ares2 777usd shipped and the ADI-2 1100usd shipped
thanks again
I'm very interested in having a Dac with EQ functionality.. I never use PC->USB for my headphones but 100% DAP. I have a few cans that I'd like to experiment with EQ'ing (LCDX) but I'm wondering how easy it is to customize eq profiles and set variants for listening. Maybe it would be easier to be able to program it via pc and then be able to save each profile.
It's a little fiddly to setup, but you can create multiple profiles within the DAC. No functionality to set them up externally though.
I think you can create up to 9 customize eq profiles
I agree with the etched treble, I purchased ADI2 for my HD800, just couldn't tame the treble without EQ, heard it with my IEMs too. Along with that, I feel using the RME purely as a dac/amp for headphones lacks some dynamics and detail, (mainly vocals). Both headphone and IEM output showed the same results. Its a great unit, well built using quality parts but perhaps over-engineered to be purely a top-performing dac/amp combo.
Glad it's not just me hearing the etched treble. I can only imagine that would be a bit nasty on HD800s! I agree about everything you've said.
eLicky yup completely agree with the treble. Grainy. And the soundstage is quite flat. Not much depth at all. Has a wide soundstage tho. But my Marantz DAc kinda walks all over it. Much more realistic timbre on the instruments.
Returned mine quite fast as it didn’t wow me at all.
HD800 are an incredibly boring headphone for music
The NOS filter will tame the etched treble, and HD800 are probably not the right headphones for those who are sensitive to treble to begin with.
I agree that the HD800 is not a headphone for anyone who's treble sensitive
Just wondering, are the EQ adjustment on this per channel? be handy for studio monitors
I've forgotten - it's been so long. Sorry.
Is the RME superior to the E30 if by DAC performance alone? I noticed they use the same chip. Looking forward to your response and keep up the great work.
Hi mykeldg, I don't have the E30 here anymore as it was won by a viewer in the giveaway. I can comfortably say that the RME is significantly better though because the ADI-2 came close to the Qutest whereas the E30 did not. That said, you might want to stay tuned for the next video as I've got some interesting revelations about the Topping DACs - specifically the D50S, but it should apply to the E30 as well.
How does this sound compared to the Denafrips Ares and Pontus DACS? Thank you.
Hi PMM, I haven't tried the Pontus yet, but the Ares and ADI-2 are like polar opposites. The ADI-2 is all sharp edges and resolution, while the Ares is all about space and smoothness at the cost of resolution. I personally think both products go too far in their respective directions.
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Nice poem! The giveaway is for the SSR, but they're good too. 😉
@@PassionforSound hahah ahh damn it > .
I would like to know your opinion on how the RME chip DAC would stack up against the Schiit Bifrost ladder DAC.
I haven't had them side by side, but I'd choose the Bifrost 2 every single time. The ADI-2 has amazing versatility whereas the B2 is very basic, but the B2 is the more enjoyable and lifelike listening experience to my ears.
Would this pair well with the Burson Soloist 3XP?
I'd personally choose the Burson Composer because I think it's a slightly better sounding DAC, but if you need the ADI-2 features, it will go just fine with the Soloist
Hello.Great Review.Is it possible to use this as a preamp for a 2.1 sistem as in XLR to power amp and RCA to powerd sub at the same time? Thanks.
Hi Adi, that's a great question and, in theory, I think it would work. I can't remember if you can separate control for the RCA and XLR outs so not sure if you could adjust the levels, but you could definitely use both outputs at once
@@PassionforSound Thanks for the swift reply. I also think I would work because my power amp has level adjustment and the sub also has level adjustment. I need some more research.
If you have separate levels adjustments you should be fine either way 🙂
@@PassionforSound yeah , thanks bfor the info.
@@PassionforSound My RME arrived today.Thanks .
What were those swanky looking xlr cables in the back around 12 min?
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Can you go out of Mac book pro thunderbolt 3 / USB 3 into USB B and still get full hi res? I see some units only give full res via optical. I want to go straight into USB and out headphones into a Drawmer MC3.1. Do I need to go out XLR? It the headphone out lower quality than out RCA's or XLR?
I don't use Macs so I can't test this, but they should provide full hi-res via USB. It's likely a system setting is required to enable an unaltered output.
@@PassionforSound Thank You for your reply. So the USB on the RME is not lower quality than going in optical?
I've not compared the two inputs, but it will depend somewhat on the quality of the USB source you're using too. Optical is always a safer option because it will isolate any sources of noise from up the chain.
Would this all in one be a substantial upgrade from a schiit heresy and modi 3E?
I'm not the biggest fan of the ADI-2, but it's a solid device and I do think it would be an upgrade over your current set
I was actually able to pick up the RME. What Amp would you recommend to pair with it, if I where to get the Arya V2?
I'd probably look at something like the Singxer SA-1
@@PassionforSound Thank You actually considering it.
What about if I had to get something under $500, is the A90 or is there simular amp recommended
Under $500, I'd look at the Schiit Jotunheim 2 or maybe the Geshelli Labs E2. Both are excellent and better than most (maybe all) of the Topping and SMSL amps I've tried
@@PassionforSound thank you, will look into them
Will it be ok to add to it a tube amplifier? (because it already has amplifier)
Absolutely. The amp in this is just OK, not great. Adding a nice tube amp is a great idea!
Any word on an Interview with an R2R expert like the guys from Schiit?
Sadly no. ☹️ I did reach out to them, but as yet haven't heard back. I'll keep trying though
How you would compare it with the E50 topping dac?
I've never had both together, but they're in pretty different leagues. The E50 is great fit the price, but it didn't match the other more expensive DACs I've tried it against
That sweater is ridiculous. But I agree with your review. What you didn't get into is the "Loudness" or equalization features of the RME when comparing sound. I've found that the ADI-2 fs sounds WAY better than the Chord when you actually use the tone controls/DSP equalization.
Hi Antonio, I'm not a user of EQs or loudness controls so I didn't want to get into detail about something I'm.not well-versed in. Sorry you don't like the sweater 😉
I agree with you, it is the features of the RME that make it unique, that you can tune the sound according to your personal taste.
Is there a possibility to use the pre amp section for a turntable input into this box?
No, sorry. The ADI-2 is a digital only device
@@PassionforSound Darn. Looks like i'll stay with my Benchmark DAC1 hdr for now. Thanks.
Yeah, I would
Thank you for e great review!
I have two questions.
One, I've heard that you can improve the sound of this unit by changing the power supply? With something like SBOOSTER PSU MKII 15-16v But I have in another review heard that the technology in the RME ADI-2 is in a way that this do not have any effect. Do you have any experience with this or can you make a review around these kind of improvements?
Second, would you recommend this unit to work together with the Meze Audio Empyrian?
Thank you for ann very interesting channel.
Hi Øyvind, I've not tried the ADI-2 (or Qutest that I mention in comparison) with external power supplies. I will be posting a video soon about the Topping P50 power supply with the D50S, but it's current output is too low for the ADI-2 or similar products.
As for the Empyreans with the ADI-2, they work very well together and the neutrality of the ADI-2 does suit the Empyrean's warmth, but it's worth noting that the Empyreans have much more to give with a better quality (external) amp so you'll probably want to add that down the track to really get the most out of your Empys.
@@PassionforSound Hi
Thanks for the answer.
Concerning the the match with the Empyreans its what I belive will be the case, a good starting point...
Looking foreword to the next review. :)
Definitely a good start. Enjoy!
@@PassionforSound Hi, firstly I want to say that I like your reviews very much, honest and straight-forward, keep on going :)
I'm a future buyer of Empyreans (currently with 99 Classics) and I'm planning ahead my next rig to make them sing. Do you think that RME ADI-2 with Top A90 would make a solid companion to unleash Empy's full heaven potential?
And secondary question - how much of an upgrade it would be compared to my current SMSL M200+SP200 stack?
Thanks and all the best!
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Hi Vladimir, glad you're enjoying the channel - thanks!
As for your future setup, I think the ADI-2 & A90 will be brilliant. I works also say the D90 & A90 will be equally as good if you prefer the same look. Either way, it'll be a huge upgrade over your SMSL stack! You'll love it!
Your video might just be the fairest appraisal of this unit that I have seen. I use the PRO FS-R version as a preamp - it switches to the TV TOSLINK input automatically when I turn the TV on, a feature that no reviewer has mentioned - mode switching by input sensing. The 32-tone intermodulation test result is very clean too, in answer to the accusations of music being more than a simple sine wave. I'm surprised that audiophiles review this unit, they usually prefer the warmth given by distortion.
Thanks John. I'm glad you found it to be fair.
As for audiophiles preferring distortion, that's not really accurate. There are some very clean measuring devices that sound great (Geshelli Labs Erish / J2) and sometl that sound souless and dry (Drop THX 789, SMSL SP200). There's more to it than we seem to be able to measure at this stage because I'm yet to see a set of measurements that can accurately predict the listening experience.