Whats inside an Electric Fireplace? (Dimplex ignite xl vs amazon fireplace)
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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We explore the differences between an expensive and our most popular electric fireplace the Dimplex Ignite xl, vs. old technology and an off the shelf type product. The question is, are the more expensive electric fireplaces worth the money? The only way that I can seem to tell is going to be by opening them up and taking them apart and seeing which one is better?
Well we took them apart. And lets just say there is a big difference.
Two main things stood out to me. One the quality of the the raw materials was far superior on the dimplex.
But more importantly, the DESIGN itself was much better, better designed blower systems, better flame, etc. See its not just about having better materials, its that an actual team of individuals spend time designing the product to create a superior consumer experience.
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Thanks for the info. Was thinking about going with the more expensive unit thinking it would be better but after watching this I can see that they are practically the same. Thank you for saving me the extra money.
Glad to help!
I was able to fix the motor on my old technology fireplace by myself with a $10 motor bought on Amazon. I have no experience doing thus stuff, but I was happy the simplicity of the old technology made it possible for me to repair it on my kitchen table in 30 minutes. 😂
that would be a useful video
just like older cars, need a degree to change spark plugs nowadays.... Used to be if a motor went out, you could pull and reinstall a new motor in a matter of hours. For the heating element sure but sometimes simple is just better. Thx for the video
We are shopping Electric Fireplaces this month, here in Canada; and this video has cut right into the heart & soul of the two units that we were considering. Thank you so much for saving me the time & effort to "look under the hood"; in a quest to explain the extreme price difference.
Glad to help. Thanks for watching!
The best fireplace video on UA-cam........ This video has helped me decide to go with dimplex...... Great work Embers!!!
thanks for watching!
@@embersliving Hows does the Napoleon Alluravisions compare? They are cheaper in price, would be awesome to see what it looks like internally especially compared to the higher end ones like you showed
Extraordinary presentation. The comparison of models makes a decision easy! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Hook, line, and sinker. Man..... the things people believe!
This is what I was wondering and you just reveal all the mystery, thanks 👍
Thanks fo watching!
Great vid. We're going with the Dimplex Ignite XL 74 in our new home. Thanks for confirming our purchase.
Thanks for watching! Make sure you shop with us
Love the videos Trevor keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Good job thank you for your help
Thanks!
So, same fundamental idea. Both look good.
choose which ever you like!
Great job on the video....but you may not want to poke around in mains energized equipment with a metal screw driver or bare finger, especially when your hanging on to the grounded chassis with the other hand. Heater has 120vac. A small current can stop your heart.
Thanks for the info!
Thank you for showing the inside of the device (the magic). Looks like the technology is identical, just better parts like the fans and flame visual effect. At the end it's heating coil with a fan (the $20 heater without the visual effect of the fireplace). I was expecting an LCD or LED in the new model, because I was thinking about using a TV and integrating a heating element from a $20 heater. That way the TV can be used at a TV and/or fireplace.
The design is so simplistic that just about any copycat can replicate it.
Yeah pretty simple actually . A lot of the newer ones are using televisions
Hey Trevor - Thanks for doing this videos! Super helpful. Quick question, is the Dimplex IgniteXL still a solid option in 2023? I’d love to get the Bold but that’s out of my budget. I’m really debating between a 50” IgniteXL or the 50” Multi-Fire Slim. Is the slim quite a step down from the IgniteXL? Any Modern Flames in these two price ranges you like better? Thanks again!
Hi Dimplex Ignite XL is still one of our best electric fireplaces. Both are good, but the ignite is probably better. IF you have any questions please call us we have both in stock.
Most people don't buy these as a major heating appliance. To me the cheaper ones have more realistic and variable flame patterns not restricted by a cutout. The heater also works. Not worth the price difference to me. Both are simple designs because that is all that is required. If you need a 220 volt heater to blast out hot air, an electric fireplace probably isn't what you need.
Clever, Simple, Low(er) Cost and it Does the Business. I don't know if I would "laugh at that". Just saying. Thumbs up for taking the time to share. Cheers!
Thank you
Really helpful thank you. I purchased what I now know to be older technology.....still cost me £500. Broke after 13mths. I was told by retailers they are not designed to be repaired.... so had to throw it away. Total waste of money. I'm now going to buy a Dimplex ..new teck thanks to you.
Dimplex is our 2021 electric fireplace champ. It also heats too.
Cool!
Great Vid, what do you recommend for 50-60 inch wide but want it as tall as possible, this will replacing an existing gas unit located in a corner on a hearth. Rule out the humidity mist systems, I don't want to deal with water lines and the maintenance.
the new Dimplex Ignite Bold is going to be nice and tall
a $400 TV that is playing a fireplace video and a small ceramic heater somewhere else in the room
What is that black material?pleksi or?
There’s not a lot in them really, cool video, cheers
thanks
Can you PLEASE do a video teardown of one of the XL models? Thanks!
Which XL model?
I would expect a more expensive unit to be better (true for most things). Maybe suggest disconnecting power before working on any electrical unit.
true
Great review...Now I do understand the differences between basic and upscale models. While I think the built quality is higher for the more expensive models than the basic one, I am wondering if those differences warrant twice or thrice the price differences. Plate glass vs plastic sheet? stamped steel sheet vs nothing? blower fans vs computer type fans? reflector differences? The materials costs are not much between the two though. I guess it is a personal choice which one he likes and willing to pay for it...After all, these are all fake fireplaces....
true, I do think the flames look better on the nicer units though
but the profit margin on one is much MUCH better. it's not rocket science, it's called salesmanship. Making minior differences sound so much better when in fact all electric fire places are expensive to heat with and are for looks only.
I'm with you. While this guy points out differences I fail to see how they warrant such a huge jump in price. Lots of empty salesman talk, but objectively not much to go on.
@@denjhill I agree. It's all about marketing. The look between the "old technology " and new technology , I have to be honest, is not that much different.. actually it looks just as good. The price difference doesn't justify the cost.To justify the cost I have to take apart the whole thing to see what I paid for.
@@highsiderider We recently decided on a Touchstone Sideline. This guy never talks about them, I suspect because he doesn't sell them. Lower price and we are completely satisfied. I'd recommend to anyone to check them out. Got it through Amazon and it was here in 3 days!
Great video to explain why the higher end ones cost more but maybe in the future unplug the damn thing before starting to disassemble it.
Thanks for the advice
I saw your video on Top 5 direct vent fireplaces which was awesome! Can you please do a video of Top 5 ventless, Top 5 see through, and Top 5 peninsula. I am really interested in buying a peninsula, but most seem really expensive, high end. Can you tell me which one is best for peninsulas for cost and quality between Montigo, Flare, Ortal, and any others that would offer a 3 sided peninsula about 60”? It’s really hard to find places that carry them and even harder to rate them! Hope to hear from you! Thanks
We will see what we can do. It’s tough cause there is t a lot of choices
@@embersliving thank you! Let me know your highest rated peninsula when you get the data together please!
Hi Trevor! What model fireplace is immediately behind you at the very beginning (first frames) of this video? I like the Orion but this one also looks realistic to me. TIA!
UPDATE: I answered my own question. It's the Dimplex Opti-V. Which... I guess was cool at the time but is not the most competitive anymore. Has bad ratings.
yes, and I think it will be discontinued
hello, what is the name of the reflective glass material, thank you in advance for your interest
I am unsure
Can you add in a non reflective glass or mesh on the IGNITE XL? I always see your camera man. My room is a bit bright sometimes. I don't like the slim. Thanks!
No you cannot add a non-reflective glass or mesh on the Ignite XL. Most linear fireplaces will not come with a mesh screen in the electric line.
@@mightymousebq Thank you. I just have 2 more questions on this model. My contractor installed and while my unit is about 47 inches to center off the floor to see over a couch, I easily see when crouching or sitting on the sofa a metal strip with screws holding in the back reflective panel and it is slightly lower on the left than right (not straight across). 1. Should I see this piece of metal at all even if looking up at the fireplace, or if so, can it be painted black with fire retardant black paint? It looks very unfinished this way. 2. On the outside glass there were two black one inch clips with protruding zip-tie-like (well, more like the things you tie around your bread bag if that) that I think are to cover the metal clips that the outer glass fits into to screw down. Are they for that, and won't they melt? I don't know how they would stay securely on anyway, unless you're supposed to wrap the plastic protruding pieces around it? I never could get the front glass to sit into the left side of the screw down bracket piece (it kept hitting on the top right and when finally jiggered it into place it never fell back all the way into the left bracket so only have it secured with the one screw on the right). I noticed a smudge on the inside so need to take it off anyway, maybe I can get it to sit correctly on third try. Ugh.
Moral of this video: Radial; fans are dime a dozen, and axial fans are costly. Plus you can ignore the Thermostat in the Cheaper model. RGB Leds are geeky. Pom poms need to be uniform in shape.
thanks for the feedback
Even the newer ones are still pretty low tech for what they cost. For the same money you could go buy a high end PC and have infinitely more RnD, parts and materials cost gone into it. Thanks for the autopsy though, now I can go build my own from scratch for fun :)
haha thanks
I would appreciate if you could explain the names of the materials on the front panel.
I am not sure, seems like plastic
I can't help it, but i like that old technology with bonbon papers and plastic projection screen. Now i have small fireplace from discount for $65 (Czech republic) it has the same heating element with sqirel fan like that $500 in video, but dont use for heating.
Nice!
Thanks, finally I know how it works!
I know its crazy! All of them are different though. Now a lot of them are inlcuding TV's
Nice fireplace...
It sure is
Lol, a small (50” maybe) $500 cheap fireplace vs a $3,500+ name brand. I would hope that a $3,000 difference would buy more than just a metal template for the flames and a variable speed fan. Wonder where the pricier model sources their parts? China, maybe?
Not sure
I really wanna purchase one of yur fireplace , ..kindly advise, is this something I can install myself ? Or do you have a team than can install it for me ? I'm in Houston ,Texas .
We use electricians for electric fireplaces
@@embersliving can I have my electrician install it without hassle after purchasing from you website ?
I did it myself, not hard. You only need an electrician if you install an extra PowerPoint.
The flame effect of the expensive one looks wayyyy cheaper than the inexpensive one.
crazy how that works!
tell me what they are called and where can I buy plastic glass?)
haha
@@embersliving ?
The margins must be huge on these things. I guess the BOM (Bill of Materials) for these would come to something like 70$ to 150$ depending on the size of the glass panels.
that I am not sure on
This ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxATHBlMJwipGgVWseuAFKvDQ_5R4_lywo unit was an easy install and turned out amazing. The dimensions were exact! I took a chance and built the wall prior to receiving the unit which arrived sooner than expected and it fit right in the space I constructed. The heat output is perfect for the space we needed and made the room exactly how we envisioned it to turn out. I am happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability. Thank you for the awesome product just in time for the holidays.
An engineering team to design the stencil 🤣
right haha
Happy Birthday Jesus!!!
Ha
Comparing a cheap one to an expensive one 🤔. I expect it to be superior if I’m paying more.
Exactly. We proved it correct
can't help noticing some leds on amazon one not working
really
@@embersliving yep, look at your video and some of the white leds not working at 5.22
I thought flames were some kind of plasma between 2 glass ...
haha right
Are your products made in America?
Some of them
Merry Christmas
Thanks
any "fireplace" that blows hot air is a sad mimic of a true fire that emits IR heat.
good feedback
Both make you warm, nothing sad about it.
Your repeated reference to 220 volt heaters is wrong. North America changed to 240 volt systems years ago. What else are you telling us that is wrong?
your tell me
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Wow... NASA level! lol
haha
"Older technology". It's a fire. The oldest of technology.
Oh yeah
LEYKIS 101 !!!!!
ok
Sounds like the cheaper one is worth it 😂
My only issue with the Ignite XL is that it seems like one of the most repetitive of all electrics I've seen. Too obvious.
thanks for the feedback
Looks like a hair dryer puts out more heat.
ha ok
The simple answer is at 5:10
ok
Do you know Dimplex also made in China? !!! Actually doesn't matter where it comes from, it depends on how much you want to pay. You can't expect to get thousands of dollars quality products but just pay hundreds of dollars.
yes we did. That wasn't the point of the video, I guess you missed it
If you need a fireplace insert heater (not 6' wide), you could buy a nice 4K HDTV, loop a fireplace video, and add a heater. Tired of a fire then change the video with an aquarium. Mechanical electric fireplaces are old tech.
haha ok good ideas
Same shit different price
This is actually older type of electric fireplaces a lot of the new ones have video screens in them! Thanks for watching!
they both look cheap
dang
Your out of breath!!! Do you have a cold? Take it easy...
ha no its a mic setting