We Need To Talk About Octopath Traveler II...
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- This is my review of Octopath Traveler 2 on the PlayStation 4, but based on the first several hours. Call it a first impressions review.
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The random encounters are kinda important to stop you from wandering into high level areas and grabbing all the good items in early game, especially without risk. I think they can make something like a repel from pokemon, which stops random encounters which is lower level than you
Yeah I definitely agree with you completely about the repel. Or may that lower area you get less lower random encounters
The first Octopath game had an item that if equipped to your character would stop random encounters almost completely.
Does anyone know if there's a character with a passive ability to reduce spawns like cyrus from the first game?
@@PixelCollie ya there is. Also the scholar in this game
@@wasabilai9405 Sweet, thanks!
The world that SE and Aquire have crafted within the OT series is so gorgeous - with a mesmerising soundtrack to boot - that I couldn't not jump right back in! Loving this game and will continue to do so until everyone around me rips my vocal chords out for humming the main theme so much.
For people who say "Square Enix does not care about turn-based games anymore" show them Octopath Traveler, Dragon Quest, Bravely Default, Tactics Ogre Reborn, Live A Live and many others!
So glad to hear that OT2 is well-received. Can't wait to get it!
I've played long enough to get 4 characters so far. I love what they did with the warrior class. Hikari is my main. Loving it so far
Mine too
i started with agnea but hikari has been growing on me (my favorites are prob partitio or cassti)
Loving it sofar.! Hikari was a great way to start. Their story has the most necessary drive to party up with the others after chapter 1 imo afaik (only up to 4 party members so far)
One of the VERY FEW games I pre- ordered this year. Definitely worth it!
Yeah, this, RE4 Remake, and Baldur's Gate 3 are my jams this year.
@@SliderFury1 Baldurs gate 3 will be here in six short months!
I was actually going to wait. Then that demo got me lmao
To be fair, we barely started the year lol
You think its an achievement that you pre-ordered less than 5 games this year? Ouch. . .
it took me over 11 hours to get all the characters, and not a single one is a dud so far. the music is beautiful and fun, the world looks so lovely, and the fact it's fully voice acted this time is sooo much better! i am loving it x3
I just started it today going through Throné's prologue, and acquired the priest before I had to get off. Story hits, soundtrack still hits. The game is so beautiful. It's crazy that a game meant to have a retro look to it's graphic scheme can be so dang beautiful and detailed. I didn't have to hesitate picking this up!
What people generally look for in game sequels is better & characters, more content, and refinements in gameplay. Given what I've heard about OT2, I'm glad it mostly checks these features.
Getting the game tomorrow, my birthday present for myself 🥰
Been playing the demo for all characters and can't wait to finish their stories.
I haven't played games in about a year and just stayed up al night playing this ..first game I enjoyed since a long time
I played and beat OPT1. I beat Galdera and the Eye as well. What a trip.
Just started OPT2 and enjoying it. I chose Alfyn for #1 and went with Temenos for #2. Tons of fun.
10 hours in and the game is outstanding so far. Its the kind of game I've been wanting for years; classic JRPG with interesting characters, excellent battle & job system, and a massive world to explore. Can't wait to carry on after work. 😄
without getting too into the details since I haven't got it yet, are the jobs in this one different from the first? same but slightly different? or just the same?
I wasn't too impressed by the types of jobs characters could become in the first one. still good game tho just thought most of em were a little too "tried and true"
@reklom vera Yes, the 8 main jobs are the same, but in the first or 2nd chapter (I started with Throne and went to Temenos) I was given the option for a 2nd job and it was Inventor. I don't know all the secondary jobs, but I know they are different, and they also updated the primary classes with some fantastic QoL changes and some additional skills (5 support skills vs. 4 in the first game) along with latent skills and day/night skills like Throne the thief still steals during the day, but can ambush and knock someone out at night.
The hunter Ochette has a 25% chance to capture a monster after she's defeated it at least once, which makes it so much easier to capture and keep a roster of support monsters and will be nice for those rarer monsters later on in the game. *edit* just got to Hikari and the ability to store up to 5 skills from people you challenge as warrior is an amazing skill IMO
This game has one of the most beautiful World Maps in any game ever. I got it on PS5 because I wanted 4K more than portability, and the 4K presentation of the World Map alone made the tradeoff worth it.
I didn't appreciate the frame drops on the ps5 version though so i ended up playing the ps5 version on ps5. It has been flawless performance-wise.
Normally, I'm against random encounters but not with octopath traveler. You could fight every random encounter and still be under leveled.
Not sure dude. Thats exactly what got me out ot Octo I. The encounters were way too frequent and annoying. It didnt allow to really explore the beautiful world. I remember there was a character skill that allowed to reduce the encounter rate but it was still annoying… if they havent changed that in my opinion ruins the whole game. They should stick to enemies being visible and you deciding if engaging them or not
This isn't true lol.
@@eduardoargueta5074 the encounters are calculated, not random.
@@epiclight858 ?
@epiclight858 Did you just try telling someone that random encounters aren't actually random encounters?
Hey genius, a random number generator uses calculations
The first one was almost an ideal hommage to cult classics from 16 and 32 bit eras.
Can't wait to find enough time to get my hands on the second one!
Gotta admit, this was the reason to get a Switch for me. It's also the first new game I've gotten in more than 10 years. It's definitely not a disappointment. Looks like Square Enix might actually be getting their act together again.
Definitely a recommend!
SOMETIMES SE is "getting their act together". Then there's Diofield chronicles and other duds that released last year... can't even remember their names lol.
Triangle strategy was decent, this one is definitely not for me, but well received. SE still bombs more than they hit though
@@ricardodarcangelo2437 I'm not saying they don't have their issues. They've always had their issues. However, I like to think that they're getting back on an upswing. Now, I could be wrong, but I think they're really making an effort to get back to their roots.
So many improvements over the first! The soundtrack alone is worth the game
I haven't played the first one, but I'm definitely picking this up.
sameee! i really enjoyed the demo
great video! One thing though, it does play in the same world as Octopath 1 but in a different region. a character named Al (the guy with the first sidequest who lost his bag) later talks about his home region Orsterra, being the region of Octopath 1 :D this one is a nitpick, but its borderline pre-steam as the story talks about how the steam engine has just been invented :P
Sidequest spoiler, there is a connection to the world from the first game. You have to follow a sidequest chain which leads to a superboss connected to the original and a character from said sidequest was a dimensional traveler.
Nice video. I've been playing it myself a lot on Switch. I like it a lot.
spoilers for octopath 2
I will say that there is a small reference to the first octopath game which i found as quite a surprise. In the library town ((I want to say montwise)) there is a side mission to recover certain books. one of the books in question is "from the far reaches of hell". Octopath 1 fans with a key eye might remember that cyrus' whole deal was to search for that one book.
I disagree with the "grindfest" aspect. Most of the stats you will get comes from equips. That way you are rewarded for exploring, reaching new towns, use path actions to retrieve (somehow) those itens from NPCs; not for fighting per se.
You can play de game in any order, disregarding the common sense to do each each first chapter, then each second chapter...
Yeah. The game is not a grindfest at all. If you just explore u never need to grind literally
I bought octopath traveler 2 for playstation 5 I wish they made a lot more rpgs like this for all consoles.These was the golden years of rpgs to me.
They have a revamped dragon quest game coming soon like this
Been playing a whole lot over my spring break (nearly 40 hours in now) and this is 100% my game of the year; I’ve seen lots of complaints about certain things but honestly I don’t think a single one of them is valid, this game is just amazing.
Actually in the same world as the first game its just the second game took place in a different continent. There are playable characters in Octopath Traveler COTC that wears a Kimono and in one character's introduction mentioned about their hometown in the eastern continent and thats probably Solistia which its the continent of the 2nd game
Normally I don’t buy games on the day of their release, but I just bought this today. I’m gonna start it later on.
Yes it is in the same world just different continents. Think about the Clerics story and the Sacred Flame of Aelfric. The same as Ophillia in the first one.
For people who say "Square Enix does not care about turn-based games anymore" show them Octopath Traveler, Dragon Quest, Bravely Default, Tactics Ogre Reborn, Live A Live and many others!
No need to break something that ain't broken. It looks really good. Much excited to play it.
i think you mean No need to "fix" something that ain't broken
lol Osvald and Thorne' are the two characters I played with first for the prologues.
I love Hikari's path action. makes me actually want to challenge people in the game because I can learn a new skill
Till you find a Grandma who one shots you
Even though I grew up on random battles, it stopped me from completing the first Octopath as I am (unfortunately) an adult with very little time. I just want to get to the next story bit!
Still, I enjoy playing all these JRPGs vicariously through your channel.
there are some items / abilities in Octopath 1 to let you avoid so many random battles. Namely the scholar ability evasive manuevers. Basically lets you run around like how you'd normally expect a jrpg to go
@@CubeRhinoDev Good to know! I’ll have to look into that. Thanks!
@@CubeRhinoDev You still need to grind, so that doesn't necessarily help progress.
@@darkknight32920 I beat the 1st game with no grinding I just did everything the game had to offer and I never had a problem beating any of it
@@darkknight32920 i never grinded for the entire game and beat the final boss on the 2nd attempt(man that sucked having to redo all the preboss fights)
Later in the game, characters get passives that can reduce the random encounter rate.
More like early, Osvald first support skill reduces enemy encounters.
I really wish Sega would make a Shining Force TRPG like SF1 and SF2 using this engine. It could be amazing. I love this style for pixel rpgs.
Hard agree, Shining Force was my favourite game back in a day
Don't forget shining force 3 scenario games
Ehh, golden sun was way better.
I would even take a shining collection with sf 1, 2, all 3 scenarios of 3 and cd in this style.
@@kevinburke1325 it was a jrpg,sf is an srpg...how can you say which one is better? They re both great series
I can only say this is a BEAUTIFUL game. An amazing mix between FF and Golden Sun and that is a huge compliment I can give to any RPG. BTW I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with recycling the mechanics from previous games. Why fixing something that is not broken?
Can you IMAGINE an HD2D Golden Sun game?!
Thanks for the dope review
It is absolute FANTASTIC.
I trust your opinion. You've played everything!! Thanks for the video.
I played the demo for PS4. And I liked it a lot. 100% gonna get it.
There is SOME connection to the first game. The Flamebringer is back again, even though this is a different world. I've only just started the game, so I have no idea if there's anything to his inclusion, but it doesn't seem like just a name drop.
And Dohter. And Alephan.
I love random encounters. Makes it harder to explore which makes the world feel bigger.
I don't know who to start off with. I've been pondering for the past 4-5hrs. Can't decide between warrior, thief, healer, and hunter.
Update: going with the thief
Hunter for most balanced
@civoreb hunters storyline is good plus you can pick your own pet this time round thay just adds to the annoyance of which pet to pick agh...
Same here. I think wizard or hunter. I want both in my team for sure. Then the cleric or apothecary and thief. Or both cleric and apo, or would that be useless (for buffs/heals)? I know nothing about this game 😅. Just wanna play for story and pretty graphs lol.
I liked the their in the first game
@duploh download and play the demo. If you could play through all 8 characters.
It’s good and have some tough fights so far. Worth playing just because it’s more octopath
Hear, hear! about random encounters.
If they even just got a little creative with them, maybe add a feature where you have the option to skip the battle and just win if the enemy is enough levels lower than you (sort of like Earthbound)... But straight across the board random encounters is just not the best idea anymore.
(Still, highly anticipating this game)
It's the main reason i didn't buy it. What is the point of the beauty of the graphics and environments, if you can't enjoy them fully without the random encounter interrupting. The first game was enough for me
I would disagree about the randoms, as it's a staple in jrpgs... but the combat in jrpgs is tired and boring to me now, but the story/exploration is among the best in gaming, so I could get on board a game like this if you only had to fight bosses/scripted encounters
The biggest improvement is to the individual character stories. In the first one, the game was structured to follow a very precise formula and the story often suffered for it. You would be introduced to a situation, use field skills to expand on the situation which would take you to a dungeon, explore the dungeon to the end and then fight a boss.
In Octopath 2, sometimes your character will arrive to a location and already know exactly what they need to do so they won't need to use field skills in town to get going, sometimes there is a boss they will have to fight within the city so there is no dungeon, and sometimes there won't even be a boss in a chapter. The writers were given much more freedom to tell the stories they wanted to tell rather than forcing the story to fit a specific box.
As far as combat goes, I wish there were difficulty options because I find myself having no problems even when I am fighting enemies 10 levels above me, but apparently this game is also hard for some people. So adding an easy mode and a hard mode would go a long way. I think all they would really have to do is give enemies more shield points with less weaknesses on hard, and reduce the damage enemies deal to you on easy.
I also wish there was some kind of EXP sharing because some of my characters really fell behind and rather than being the hero of their story, they were more like dead weight being dragged through their chapters by my better party members.
I'd like to hear your opinion on the Octopath Traveller mobile game. I've seen people praising it in Facebook groups, but I'm unsure about F2P rpgs.
As an old school jrpg fan this game is definitely refreshing. Simple yet difficult definitely a must pick and play if u enjoyed the golden era of jrpgs on PlayStation 1
I Love the first one so much and i bought it after watching one of tour vídeos.
I just had to buy this on release!
I wish they would hurry up & utilize this HD-2D design on the best classic JRPG ever made: Final Fantasy 6! Would also like to see them replace random encounters with onscreen enemies if they could still find a way to remain faithful to the original's overall gameplay mechanics at the same time. I'd also love HD-2D remakes of DQ5 & Chrono Trigger too!
Love this game, that soundtrack is fire.
Earned a new sub! ❤️ love your passion for the genre, pulling from your personal exp instead of metacritic reviews 🙏🙏
Great review ty for ur hard work ur videos always make my car rides great
Looks interesting.. I dunno as I’m torn between this and Redemption Reapers last min.. Gonna give it a day or two before I decide.. If it were Triangle Strategy 2 I’d get it in a heartbeat.. Nevertheless the entire HD 2D SE series appears to be stellar..
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I am new to this genre and series. It looks amazing!
Do you mean jrpgs?
loved the demo...Watching one of your videos (forgot been binge watching them ha!) and your praise of ys 8 made me install it on ps5 and play it.having a blast so far even if the map is trash lol
the first game i pre ordered this year.and its just february! waiting for FFTactics remake/remaster and triangle strategy 2. atelier ryza 3 is just a few weeks away too!
In this game does the player eventually end up using all the characters?
Love your work! Would you say the soundtrack is just as good as the first? Wish they’d release the original game’s soundtrack as a paid DLC, that would be lots of fun! Cheers!
CoTC ost is kino,
I personally prefer octopath 1 soundtrack over 2's but it's still definitely good to hear.
How many chapters per? Still 4? Cause I started with scholar for the demo and no spoilers, but his was a little different structure wise.
The one thing I didn't like and that's why I quit the first one is that it was just a bunch of little stories taped together.
Is this really the same? Do characters interact more with each other? Is there a cohesive bigger story?
As much as I liked every else, I just couldn't keep playing because of that.
I would say this game is a direct upgrade from the last game. A bunch of quality of life changes and it just feels great to play. Totally love the stories too, maybe a bit less for Agnea, it is a bit too sunny for my taste
i think it’s good they have the full spectrum tonally- Agnea-happy go lucky, determination. Temenos- Sherlock Holmes, Hikari- monarchy struggles, Throne- slavery, Ochette-Pokemon, Oswald-Prison Break/Framed, Partitio(imo the weakest story, benevolent businessman? You rarely see this trope in media.) Casiti-G rated memento. They went HARD with Primrose’s prologue. I was hoping it goes Game of Thrones where your main characters can have permadeath in some story completion. But it would be a nighmare to finish. Even George RR can’t finish his stories.
just by looking at it, it remains me of radiant historia
Squeenix's Ethics Board can take a long walk off a short pier while wearing cement shoes though.
i like it, if games change little to not at all between sequels. it makes them feel more like part of a whole, instead of a gimmick. i dont need two towers to have holographic images, just because fellowship of the ring is a book. and i dont need return of the kings to be an interactive VR-experience. sometimes we force change, just for changes sake. i just want more of octopath traveler 1. The "it needs to have something new with every sequel" is what lead us to FF16, being action-combat-oriented (allthough it doesn't bother me. it's just how the tides force change, even unwanted) or breath of fire to change itself into obscurity being abandoned alltogether.
Yeah, I take your point on the "forcing change for change's sake" point. That's true, and not necessarily a positive.
However, in the case of a long running, high sales franchise like FF, the change to action based combat was refreshing. Cuz everyone that plays rpgs wants to see what Final Fantasy is doing next, but the traditional rpg (jrpg) combat is more niche these days, and not broadly appealing. FF is the mainstream for rpgs now, so the change makes sense.
I grew up on the traditional rpgs and Srpgs, and I get why they are loved, and of course, don't want to see them disappear... but I also would like to play FF16, as I have with every FF besides 11/14, and the combat is a change that needed to happen. Plus, many who "hate" the switch to more action, haven't really tried good action rpgs, and might be surprised to find they enjoy them once they learn it.
Still, SE should do some spin offs or something, that keep the old school combat, to give those who only enjoy that style something for them too. Change is great if it brings new ideas, and gets more people into playing rpgs, and maybe going back to the classics; but ousting your longest supporters isn't great... I'm sure it wasn't an easy choice
Octopath traveler 2 is the first hd-2d game to ever be on the ps4 and ps5, besides being switch exclusive previously.
Can't wait . hopefully I can get it done before trails of azure comes out
I haven’t played any of these games, they look absolutely fantastic. I wish Square would remake FF VI or Chrono Trigger in this style
because Random encounters are a genre staple and that's a good thing, if you don't want them, play a different genre instead
dl'd the demo on ps4, really enjoying the game looking forward to buying it.
Want to know if the performance is significantly better than the switrch as I am on the fence which one to get.
I had no idea there was a PC version. That will probably be the one I pick up then
To note that both the Switch & PC are the only places you can play both the first & second game. On the Playstation side of things, only the second game is available, while the Xbox side of things, only the first game is available. Kind of weird, maybe in the future time changes that. But yes, PC is one of the definitive platforms to play the series.
This thing is a tribute to all fans of JRPGs. What an amazing game. 10/10 for me.
I'm glad it doesn't have anything to do with the first one tbh. This world feels... I don't know just a little bit spicier.
My Goty this year for sure.
Demo Is great
I think it's the same world as the 1st game, just not the same continent.
Turn-based is one of the single best things about this studio.
While I was watching the video I noticed the thief lady seems to have her head separated from her body in the sprite at 7:15. I can't unsee it now.
Is the Inventor the only secondary job available? Are the hidden jobs from the first game back in?
Why is your review not covering all quests for 300 hours play?
I thoroughly enjoyed the first game and so far its the same with this one, but i will say that leveling up is a bit too grind-y as it was in the first game.
I'm poor so I'll wait for sale
They should have remade Final Fantasy 7 in this style, not the crap they sold to us.
But people loves that crap
Do you have access to your party in the characters chapters 2 or just the character for that chapter?
I loved the first one. But I got over it after about 15-20yrs. The grinding was just to brutal. It was insane. I’m sure this is pretty much the same. Which sucks for players who don’t want the aggressive grinding.
I mean, the first game isn't out for 15 years yet. But also, it wasn't grindy at all IMO! Yes some of the battles could be very hard, Galdera itself took me a few attemps, and whenever you jumped from one chapter to the next it could get brutal. But using the game mechanics, you could manage! Leveling up didn't help much to get stronger in the late game really; items are more important, and money is easy to come by especially with Tressa in the team
Yes, the Damm grind gets tedious. I would've liked that the new characters you met are the same level as you, like in many of the Atelier games, where it depends more if you're prepared for the hard bosses than level
I beat the first game and didn't grind once seriously... I feel the only reason anyone who says they had to grind was being lazy/stubborn cuz they didn't want to try a different strategy if the died to a boss...
There should be a difficulty option for new players or for those playing for the story.
@@Hajinrei yeah! I have very limited time, so grinding just for grinding is something that i don't want to do anymore
its good, its better, the music is fantastic
Agnea’s devastating kick ability is hilariously over powered
I agree
I think they are in the same world, just different continents. The gods are the same.
Awesome review Erick. You always got the best vids when it comes to RPGs
Fantastic OST
Game was fine. I didn‘t like the random encounters at all. This is probably the most important thing I really didn‘t enjoy and it often kept me from exploring.
And here i am just started playing the first game.
same, started the first one to see if I like it 3 days ago and have been doing nothing else but playing it religiously, only stopping when I can't see straight anymore like now. Can't imagine not playing it on pc though as I could not handle the game without disabling depth of field and other post processing while at it, it physically hurts my eyes, hate that crap
The argument that "It's the same game again" baffles me still. People are down to play the next Call of Duty or sports games every year (And there are people who are still playing them as they still sell boatloads of copies) but when any other franchise releases a sequel, people start nitpicking about it being too similar to what came before. Blows my mind...
Despite popular belief, the COD games are mechanically different enough from each other that they feel like different games. This point is exacerbated by the fact that different studios are responsible for the game every year. Combine that with a brand new campaign, and you have a new game.
The comparison here is that it looks like the exact same game except with a new story.
@@123christianac I'd argue those annual releases are just model and number changes with a bit of trying something new. Just a tad though.
I just don't get what people want in a sequel. A sequel is a iteration on a solid foundation.
@@nufsioohay People want the sequel to build upon that foundation. They want new mechanics that work in tandem with existing mechanics to create a new experience. It doesn't have to drastic, but it has to different enough (see COD).
In my opinion, the game shouldn't get a sequel unless it can build upon the predecessor. Octopath isn't a story driven game (well in a grand scope of things), and the gameplay is really strong. The sequel seemed to change up the weaker part of the first game (not improve since it is still in the 8 short story format) and not change the gameplay. That's what makes it feel samey.
It does have references to the first game, but you're not going to see any of those references in just the prologue
do chars not in party get exp this time? i hated that in 1
I always struggle with the decision on what system to buy the game for: Ps5 or Switch?
How do you decide?
There's a video on UA-cam that compares the two platforms.
PS5 has deeper, richer colours, and runs 60 fps.
Switch runs at 30 fps, with a bit more grainy, washed out texturing.
Strangely enough, for the type of game this is, I feel like the polished graphics and high frame rate kind of takes away from the charm. And I am ALWAYS the type to go for better performance and visuals if possible.
I have both systems but I'm getting it for the switch so I can play it on the go. The graphical differences are minimal anyways so you'll get more bang for your buck on the switch. They are the same price anyways.
A simple choice for me. I got on PS5 because I prefer to play on that than the switch.
Random encounters? Man, that's a total no-go for me :(
Is the first character you pick locked to your party like on the first?
Yes it is
@@amel_lemouri that’s a shame
Do people really criticize OT2 and VC4 for having the same gameplay and visuals as they predecessors? Have they never played RPG sequels before? Or any Pokémon game for that matter?