Hey hey hey, don't insult yourself, you should have more self confidence. Also that's my job. I just assumed you were trying to find some self respect, better luck next time.
@@NelsonVlog66yep the awards for films and critics said cgi doesn’t count as special effects and will never be big in films because it’s cheating as something real, funny how it is with films use nowadays 😂
The whole movie is full of references and easter eggs for people that understand computing history and electronics. Most people notice Pac Man but there is a lot of other stuff.
I own a classic 80s arcade (charge at the door, video games are free), and we get packed with people having a blast like that. Not as big as Flynn’s, but we try to make it as cool as they were back in the day. Graduated high school in 1984, and we saw Tron in the theater more times than we can count. We’ve been open 20 years, and the first game we got back in ‘85 was a Tron game. We even have a 14’ tall Recognizer in our place. Suffice to say this film had an impact on us. This movie was so groundbreaking and more than just eye candy. Still a classic that holds up.
@@Mysticsword Indeed, and original machines… no Mame or multicades… if it’s a 1979 Asteroids, it’s a 1979 Asteroids. Have about80 games and 20 pinball machines. Our 2nd location has that much or a little more. Awesome to see people coming in wide eyed for the first time, or giddy to relive their youth!
That is amazing! I'm glad you have been able to make a go of it. I miss those old arcades in the mall. I dropped a ton of quarters in them on lunch breaks during summer jobs while in high school. I think I pretty much spent my income on them at times.
This is where it all began! When John Lasseter saw the footage of the lightcycles.. he immediately saw the future! And that became the basis for Pixar!
This was state of the art CGI in 1982 and, honestly, I really miss the days when computer generated art had its own distinctive visual style and wasn't just trying to mimic reality.
I'm amazed at how far we've come since then. Recently the Corridor Crew channel pulled an off-the-shelf animation software and was able to do an almost perfect re-creation of that scene in a single afternoon. Just mind-boggling.
5:41 -- Hi guys... Keep in mind, that A LOT of these things didn't exist in the early 80s... Touch screens, LARGE flat screens like Dillengers desk... --- Being able to play video back on a computer, etc..
For what it’s worth, the technology used in the scenes for both the real world and the Grid is just astounding and groundbreaking! The sound effects and visual design are incredible beyond measure, especially for 1982.
There's also the Animated Series, "Tron Uprising" which acts as a prequel to Legacy, but unfortunately, the show never really caught on and only lasted one season and 19 episodes, but it's still a pretty good show
Bruce Boxleitner, who played Tron, had to be talked into being in the film. Up til then, he was a Western actor, specializing in white-hat roles. He didn't understand anything about computers. (To be fair, not many people did back then. This was well before personal computers were a general thing.) It was only when he was urged to read the script again that he realized Tron was very similar to the Western heroes he was used to playing, and so he took the role. He's since said he had no idea the influence the film would have, and he's very happy to hear from people how much they love the film.
@@laurelg9586 I loved watching the CBS TV series "Scarecrow and Mrs. King" in the 1980s. His co-star was Kate Jackson, one of the original three "Charlie's Angels."
Here's a bit of trivia that a lot of people don't know: David Warner not only played Dillinger and Sark. He also voiced the Master Control Program, but was uncredited in that part.
It's kind of cool that there are three actors in TRON who appeared in one of the best science fiction shows of all time, "Babylon 5". Bruce Boxleitner (Alan/TRON) as John Sheridan, Peter Jurasik (CROM 2:12) as Londo Mollari and David Warner (Dillinger/Sark/MCP) as Aldous Gajic. Unfortunately, Warner was only a guest star in season 1 and didn't get to reunite with Boxleitner on the show. Jurasik and Boxleitner shared a lot of screen time, though.
I love that you put 1982 on the screen for most of the film. I saw Tron with my step dad who was a computer expert and taught me how computers worked before the movie came out. We loved it. Everyone leaving the theater over 12 years old looked confused.
Nice! One of my favorite live action Disney movies! It got snubbed at the Oscars for Best Visual Effects, as the Academy thought that using CGI was cheating, until it was approved in 1985 when Young Sherlock Holmes showed the very first CGI character.
I almost sh%t a brick when I saw the thumbnail for this video. That's how much I love this movie. After this you have to check out the Tron cartoon by Disney that came out a few years ago. The music in it is awesome too.
I instantly fell in love with this movie the day I saw it on VHS as a kid over 20 years ago! I still have the Tron 2.0 killer app game and I'm never giving it away! The light cycle games were the best! And I love the sequel and the uprising series that was unfairly cancelled
I saw this film in theaters when it first came out. Not only were theater screens in general bigger at the time, this movie was shot and projected in 70mm, which is how I saw it in Manhattan. The psychedelic imagery - which was kind of where arcade games were at the time, giving the movie the feel of being INSIDE a video game - it was an insane experience, especially with the ability of the “camera” to swoop around the digital models in ways you couldn’t see in live action at the time. But it was also kind of overwhelming, which is partly why the movie didn’t do so well against its budget at the time. Question: if you get laser-zapped into the grid, and someone changes your file extension while you’re there, what happens to you? Another great Jeff Bridges performance is John Carpenter’s Starman, with Karen Allen (who is also great in the film).
The ending of Tron when all the I/O towers light up and the world gets all its lights back reminds me of the end of Wreck it Ralph after Turbo gets iced. I think Wreck it Ralph is paying homage there.
Influential. Very. Sometimes it's not fair to point out obvious copying as low hanging fruit - but your observation shows the same concept in a clever way.
The special effects are now over forty years old (I think each frame of the CGI sequences was separately rendered), but that light cycle scene is still totally awesome!
Jeff Bridges is fantastic in this, but Bruce Boxleitner doesn’t get enough credit for how much he also sells the plausibility of the world in this. I also love a setting where the ultimate weapon is a frisbee :P TRON Legacy is great, but if you get the chance, play the video game TRON 2.0
1:31 - The 'Lightcycle' cabinet is actually the cabinet for the actual TRON arcade game. The game used a trackball and you could play games based on several key sequences in the movie, including one game based on just a 3 second world-building clip. 2:55 - One of the narrative aspects of this movie that I love is that in real life, the Users are just inputting programming commands into their work stations, but the Programs interpret it as having direct conversations with their Users. 3:37 - You're either gonna love or hate Bit. He's Great-grandfather to Navi from Ocarina of Time. 13:00 - Dillenger's been having actual conversations with his Operating System and NOW is when he realizes he's created a monster. 13:47 - In 1872, a writer named Samuel Butler theorized of a society that realized that it's machines were destined to evolve beyond humanity and so forbade any technology more advanced than 300 years prior. In 1965, Frank Herbert would adapt this idea into the Butlerian Jihad in the background of his Dune novels. The idea of the Robot Apocalypse is older than electronic computers. 14:11 - But you ARE a cinephile, so you should know this line. Check out a classic sci-fi movie called The Day The Earth Stood Still (or just rewatch Army of Darkness). 15:14 - The People Mover ride at Disneyland, which was an elevated tram system that moved people around Tomorrowland, had a dark tunnel section where the walls mimicked this section of the movie. 20:06 - Nobody ever had. TRON was the first movie to make extensive use of computer-assisted imaging...and they were disqualified from the Oscars because of it. The Academy considered using computers 'cheating.' 23:47 - Don't forget: Flynn isn't just a User, he's a PROGRAMMER. The MCP wants to be god, Flynn actually IS god. 30:21 - IT IS! You found a Hidden Mickey!!! 31:09 - DUMONT is the manager of the I/O tower. His User is Walter Gibbs, the old man from the Laser Lab that went to talk to Dillinger. Gibbs was also the creator of the MCP. SARK is Dillinger's program that he uses to interface with the MCP. YORI is the program that Flynn's ex, Laura, uses to control the dematerialization laser. 36:10 - This moment is the reason the movie got a PG rating. At the time, it was the most graphic death ever in a Disney film because you can see SARKs brains. 39:27 - Probably seconds. At most a few minutes. The biggest chunk of Real Time that passed between when Flynn was digitized and he reappeared was probably when Alan was programming the last bit of code into TRON. The pacing of the story breaks down if you think about it too much, so just let it go. 44:40 - I believe that AI art programs should ONLY be used by people to produce example images to help communicate the concept of the piece to the actual artist. 49:26 - Here's a video of gameplay from the TRON arcade game. ua-cam.com/video/GmPbeHCkAmc/v-deo.html
The Tron arcade game came out right before the film and was the coolest arcade game of all time. The Tron film was way ahead of its time in so many areas. Keep in mind that all the CGI was done without a way to preview the animation. The shots had to be perfect the first time as it may take a week to render out a sequence or even a shot back then.
One of my earliest memories, was my mother taking me to the theater to see this movie, when I was 4 years old. On that day, I fell in love with film, computers, and video games.
At 18:40, the sport they are playing was inspired by a Basque sport called Jai-Alai. It was popular in the 80s as a form of gambling where spectators would bet on the players. That hook shaped basked they use the throw the ball was called a cesta. The ball was called the pelota.
Awesome to see people reacting to Tron, especially because the third one is supposed to come out next year! Hopefully more people get into this franchise!
The problem with the 3rd movie is it's not a direct sequel but a standalone film. No Jeff Bridges, plus Jared leto being in it. The music being some by nine inch nails should be interesting. I'm probably going to watch it but don't have high hopes for it
Gort! Klaatu barada niktu is from the old 1951 movie The day the earth stood still. It stops the robot (Gort) from destroying the earth. In 1992's Army of darkness, Ash has to say Klaatu barada niktu to close the portal opened by the Necronomicon. Also, I just saw an ad for A.I. earpieces that autotranslate languages, instead of actually taking the time to learn the languages.
One of my favourite details in the whole movie is that the byte can only say "Yes", or "positive" or "1" or "No" or "Negative" or "0". The byte can literally only communicate in 1s and 0s.
Bear in mind, at the time this movie came out, the effects in it were absolutely GROUNDBREAKING. It should have gotten that year's Oscar for Visual SFX, but instead that honor went to ET (do not get me started). Tron was given a "Special" Oscar for its effects just a few years ago, so I guess that is something.
what was it like to see this in the 80s? I was 9 when this came out and it changed my life, I knew I wanted to be involved in computers and technology. My Father got me my 1st computer a year later (TI 99-4A) and I spend days and days learning how to code on it.
I was 24, in the Navy and assigned to a prototype air traffic control facility using computers to merge multiple radar signals from distant locales to create a large area for use by a single location (over the Atlantic from Daytona beach to Charleston SC). The film only increased my desire to use computers.
Pure nerd moment... this film was done by people who couldn't see the graphics. Literally. All plotted out on pencil, and even using a Cray supercomputer, it took months to render each scene. No previews. Just a month or so and if it worked, brilliant! If not you literally had to adjust and wait another month. Look into the making, it's kinda fascinating.
The scene where Flynn, Laura, and Allen are on the stairs as the security guard passed them was filmed at Lawrence Livermore labs. Its just a 2 story building but there is a sign noting Tron was filmed there (at least during family day)
It's easy to tell who were young when Legacy came out. The adoration is almost embarrassing. :P I was already a young man when this released or I'd be like that seeing the first as a kid.
I cannot remember the first movie I saw as a child. It would've been in the 60's though since I remember the OG Planet of the Apes, 2001, Butch Cassidy, etc. BTW - I recognize Lancelot from the amazing film Excalibur.
As someone who saw this as a kid in the Theatre...it still resonates with me. It was amazing. Disney World now has a Tron Lightcycle coaster ride...that just shows you the longevity and popularity this film is in fandom.
@OctoKrool , I think you'll love the sequel to this; Tron: Legacy (2010). It gives a lot of context to the world of Tron. It's more relatable to today, and Daft Punk won several awards for their work on the soundtrack.
When I was a kid, my parents rented this movie for me and my younger brother on the weekend. Back when VHS tapes and VCR's were new. And we watched it over and over and over and over again. One of my all time favorite films. The arcade game also made this film a thing for me. Glad you saw it!
Now you absolutely have to watch the sequel. Very good movie, and much, much better special effects.
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Since you guys watched Tron... NOW YOU HAVE TO WATCH TRON: LEGACY!! The story has pretty mixed reviews... A lot of people HATED the age regression CGI they did on Jeff Bridges to make him CLU... But I think the story itself is pretty solid and a GREAT continuation of Tron as a franchise! Not to mention the ENTIRE SOUNDTRACK WAS DONE BY DAFT PUNK!!! The soundtrack has this very "Tron" futuristic feel to... Which is literally what DAFT PUNK ARE KNOWN FOR... So pretty much ALL of the songs on the soundtrack are STRAIGHT BANGERS!!!
You may enjoy watching some other AI films such as "The Lawnmower Man" (1992, directed by Brett Leonard, based on a Stephen King's story, with Pierce Brosnan), and "Virtuosity" (1995, again directed by Brett Leonard, with Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe), and why not "Johnny Mnemonic" (1995, by Robert Longo from Tales from the Crypt, and William Gibson the Father of Cyberpunk and the Matrix; with Keanu Reeves, Dolph Lundgren and Takeshi Kitano from Battle Royale).
The whole idea of Tron's characters is what the founder of ENCOM said in the office. "Our spirit remains in every program we design for this computer". Every program character was a reflection of the real-world person who built and used the program, including how they feel about others.
Everyone talks about the CGI but I think the really amazing thing is that this movie is in fact animated. Yes, every scene was animated. But you saw people right? Every frame had to be printed in black and white, a matte created, etc. I’m not aware of any other film created in this way as it was so time consuming and expensive. There is a great documentary that explains how it was made, how the graphics were done to that standard when most people had a Commodore 64 with a low resolution and 16 colours. You will love the next one, it’s just as crazy.
Jeff Bridges father was Lloyd Bridges, and he was a famous tv actor in the early 60's, but he was also in the movie Airplane. Jeff's brother Beu is another actor as well
I saw this movie as the second half of a double feature in the summer of 1982. The first half was "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan," which is now named to the National Film Registry. I hope Tron also gets named to the registry one day.
I'm a dyslexic author and struggle with spelling and grammar. I completely agree with the over use of A.I. I do use A.I. to help me with spelling and correcting my sentence structure. It's taught me and I learned from it. I also have someone going over my work. I work so hard. My first novel should be done soon. A fantasy novel Iron Badger.
I believe the more important point is many never bother 'spell-checking' themselves or reading back what they wrote in order to avoid redundancy by using different words to still get the message across. It's part of the concept of 'merit' so many disregard.
My dad wanted one of those built-in bigscreen desks after seeing the movie, who didn’t?-Back in the 80’s, when computer monitors were still big CRT boxes, he fixed his first work-computer desk so that the monitor rested in a box underneath by the feet, and put see-through glass on the top.
And before anyone says that the director come up with the name from a call in Basic (Someone always says this) Here is the director on how he came up with the name: Lisberger elaborates: "Everybody was doing backlit animation in the 70s, you know. It was that disco look. And we thought, what if we had this character that was a neon line, and that was our Tron warrior - Tron for electronic.
There was a short-lived TV show that came out about a year after this called Automan and had similar effects on the suit and he even had that same thing following him around called cursor that could created vehicles and stuff for him
A true 80s classic in every respect. Although the CGI may seem outdated in today's age, that doesn't change the fact that audiences can still enjoy it. Plus, Jeff Bridges gives a great performance xxxx
At the time the movie din't get any nomination to the Oscars awards for its technical aspects, cause at the time the "Use of Computer generated Images, was considered Cheating"... Oh O lord, how far have we come...
The game with the "Scoop" gauntlets is loosely based on sport called Jai-Alai. You play it with a small ball in a 4 sided room(kind of like Raquetball) and you use the scoop to collect and launch the ball into play.
Pretty sure they hand keyed and painted most of the GRID because CG still was being developed and couldn't render what they needed or do what they wanted at the time. There was CG models for the light cycles and other moving vehicles, but i think in a dvd interview they explained even with those, they had to still hand key the backgrounds and lighting using a specific film layering technique. This movie had heart behind it and it definitely showed for the time. Heck the following was so popular it basically got disney to greenlight the sequel for 2010. Also. Whoever thought of light cycles probably watched akira and they deserve recognition
@Nebulous6 ahhh I had it backwards then. Saw the making of documentary so long ago, but dang. Akiras cycle was the one that was inspired. I can definitely see it.
One of my all-time favorite Disney movies was NOT on my Bingo card for what I thought you'd be watching. I'm not sure if this was a stepping stone to its sequel or what it is but I'm super glad you guys watched it. Sure, it kind of helps if you saw this back then when this was still cutting-edge stuff but it's still a great concept and a really fun movie. The sequel, which was made many years later, is much more in line with today's standards and probably a lot easier for the young people to enjoy. Well, maybe with one exception because people can't ever just enjoy something, they have to point out where it came up short. But I still highly recommend watching the sequel. If you guys liked this one then you'll probably LOVE the next one. Don't want to mention some of the things as to not spoil it for you, even if it is just cast members, but to raise hype a little, they are working on getting a third one made. Can't be all that bad. Very glad you guys seemed to enjoy this movie for what it is and I hope you give that same love to the sequel. So many gave credit to movies like Wreck-It Ralph for showing the idea of the lives of programs on the other side of the screen but I always looked at movies like that as the rip-off as it's been done before. Of course I love Wreck-It Ralph as well but I wasn't fooled for a second.
I think the reference to Klaatu on Alan's cubical wall is from "The Day the Earth stood still" an old sci fi film that was remade with Keanu Reeves as the star.
There was a book called "The Machine Stops" that was published way back in 1909, that predicted that people would become stupid and lazy from depending on technology!
Saw this in theater when I was 5, loved it as a kid, never really knew what it was about till I was a teenager and saw it, made me appreciate it even more. I was lucky enough to be at sdcc to see the Flynn arcade made and got to play old school games and then saw the sequel in imax, waiting to hear on the 3rd one
This 1982 Tron movie was the one movie Disney begged movie theater chains to play and nobody cared to play it. Eventually one did and people went to see it and it supposedly was entertaining enough to get Disney movies seen more often on the big screen. Now Disney has their own streaming service and are basically bigger than the movie industry. Irony?
The actual irony: Disney got where they are today by gobbling up studios left and right (Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Fox, ...) just like the MCP, and are currently headed to becoming an amoty shell like it. They also had their share of plagiarism accusations (Stealing ideas for e.g. The Lion King and Onward), and their streaming service still lags behind Netflix and Amazon.
Orders to a robot named GORT. The orders can be understood by the context in which they were given. From the alien in control of Gort who was wounded, to a human female to give to the Robot on standby. Pretty much a come and get me and if something happens to me - you know what to do.
Flynn and Uri had been a couple in the real world but their attraction for each other still reached into the micro computer realm and both thought Tron was dead so they partnered up with each other again which felt natural to them. This movie had a religious undertone where you heard the master control guards and Stark call them religious fanatics because they believed in the existence of the users, the ones who programed and created them. This movie was made in such a way that it will never be repeated ever again due to it's extreme difficulty. They used black screen as the background so the white suits and various colors they used would show up against it. Some of the cells were stacked to such a degree to get the final exposure shot that some had up to 72 layers just for one cell. They had to farm out the colorization process to an Asian outfit to hand paint the color cells because it would have been so expensive it couldn't be done within the budget Disney had slated the movie for. There's a documentary outlining the whole production of this movie that shows you how extremely difficult it was to produce and yet it was done, but it will never be repeated ever agin and I highly recommend watching that documentary because this procedure was ground breaking to such an extent it gave Disney studios a new life to get back into the movie making business again which it owes its current stature to this movie. Disney was a has been movie studio before this movie was created and Tron brought it back from its deathbed. Strange that Disney creates a movie in 1982 with religious tones that helped pull that studio out of the dumpster and now Disney turns its back on anything wholesome today.
SORRY I AM LATE, I WAS HAVING AN AMAZING DINNER ( I KNOW I AM FAT) AND ALMOST FORGOT! I LOVE YOU ALL AND HOPE YOUR HOLIDAYS HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!!
You're not fat, I like to see it as pleasantly plump 😊
@@OctoKrool Watch Killer Klowns From Outer Space!! 🤡
Big Tauren need food.
Hey hey hey, don't insult yourself, you should have more self confidence. Also that's my job. I just assumed you were trying to find some self respect, better luck next time.
"I hate nerds."
You'd have to have a real job if it wasn't for nerds. Remember that.
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The CGI may be outdated to today’s standards, but that doesn’t change the fact that this movie is a classic for the ages
Hey... this was 1982 and this was one of the first actual onscreen films using any kind of computer animation
It was originally panned by critics
Ironically, I think a lot of it was traditional animation trying to fake CGI.
@@NelsonVlog66yep the awards for films and critics said cgi doesn’t count as special effects and will never be big in films because it’s cheating as something real,
funny how it is with films use nowadays 😂
There's barely any CGI.
In old BASIC, Tron was a command to debug programs (TRace ON)
The language of the ancients.
Its an older code sir but it checks out
It’s still in Excel as VBA, and is still used, quite often in fact in manufacturing.
The first programming language I learned was C.
The whole movie is full of references and easter eggs for people that understand computing history and electronics. Most people notice Pac Man but there is a lot of other stuff.
I own a classic 80s arcade (charge at the door, video games are free), and we get packed with people having a blast like that. Not as big as Flynn’s, but we try to make it as cool as they were back in the day. Graduated high school in 1984, and we saw Tron in the theater more times than we can count. We’ve been open 20 years, and the first game we got back in ‘85 was a Tron game. We even have a 14’ tall Recognizer in our place. Suffice to say this film had an impact on us. This movie was so groundbreaking and more than just eye candy. Still a classic that holds up.
No arcade like that here in Australia at the time!
Sounds awesome and you're living your dream. I miss having video game arcades.
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 yah, a bit of a drive from you. Springfield, Missouri USA
@@Mysticsword Indeed, and original machines… no Mame or multicades… if it’s a 1979 Asteroids, it’s a 1979 Asteroids. Have about80 games and 20 pinball machines. Our 2nd location has that much or a little more. Awesome to see people coming in wide eyed for the first time, or giddy to relive their youth!
That is amazing! I'm glad you have been able to make a go of it. I miss those old arcades in the mall. I dropped a ton of quarters in them on lunch breaks during summer jobs while in high school. I think I pretty much spent my income on them at times.
This is where it all began! When John Lasseter saw the footage of the lightcycles.. he immediately saw the future! And that became the basis for Pixar!
AI was described by the older guy Walter. “Computers and their programs will start thinking and people will stop”
Tron and Tron Legacy bridged the generational gap between my dad and I. We love how they created this world that we can all enjoy. Play on, Users 🎮
This was state of the art CGI in 1982 and, honestly, I really miss the days when computer generated art had its own distinctive visual style and wasn't just trying to mimic reality.
I'm amazed at how far we've come since then. Recently the Corridor Crew channel pulled an off-the-shelf animation software and was able to do an almost perfect re-creation of that scene in a single afternoon. Just mind-boggling.
Watched this at the $0.99 theater near my house every other week for months, for as long as it ran. So damn awesome.
5:41 -- Hi guys... Keep in mind, that A LOT of these things didn't exist in the early 80s... Touch screens, LARGE flat screens like Dillengers desk... --- Being able to play video back on a computer, etc..
For what it’s worth, the technology used in the scenes for both the real world and the Grid is just astounding and groundbreaking! The sound effects and visual design are incredible beyond measure, especially for 1982.
Tron Legacy is actually a really amazing follow up to this film. Plus it immortalizes Daft Punk.
There's also the Animated Series, "Tron Uprising" which acts as a prequel to Legacy, but unfortunately, the show never really caught on and only lasted one season and 19 episodes, but it's still a pretty good show
Bro.... Daft Punk's soundtrack to Legacy? Chef's Kiss. A masterpiece.
@@117Calgore Biggest snub of that year's Oscars. They didn't even get a nomination for Best Score.
Bruce Boxleitner, who played Tron, had to be talked into being in the film. Up til then, he was a Western actor, specializing in white-hat roles. He didn't understand anything about computers. (To be fair, not many people did back then. This was well before personal computers were a general thing.) It was only when he was urged to read the script again that he realized Tron was very similar to the Western heroes he was used to playing, and so he took the role. He's since said he had no idea the influence the film would have, and he's very happy to hear from people how much they love the film.
Boxleitner was also great in Babylon 5.
@@tjtenser7828 I will watch anything with Bruce Boxleitner in it!
@@laurelg9586 I loved watching the CBS TV series "Scarecrow and Mrs. King" in the 1980s. His co-star was Kate Jackson, one of the original three "Charlie's Angels."
Here's a bit of trivia that a lot of people don't know: David Warner not only played Dillinger and Sark. He also voiced the Master Control Program, but was uncredited in that part.
Just to give you a concept of how time works in the grid, one second in the physical world is one hour in the digital world!
Which is a plot point in TRON Legacy. While not 'immortality' - one could reach a point where the concept of time disappears.
With all their comments on the music, can’t WAIT for them to do Tron:Legacy!
Tron was one of the first movies to use CGI in its special effects.
There's an anime from 1983 called 'Golgo 13: The Professional' that uses really early CGI in one of its later action scenes.
It's kind of cool that there are three actors in TRON who appeared in one of the best science fiction shows of all time, "Babylon 5".
Bruce Boxleitner (Alan/TRON) as John Sheridan, Peter Jurasik (CROM 2:12) as Londo Mollari and David Warner (Dillinger/Sark/MCP) as Aldous Gajic.
Unfortunately, Warner was only a guest star in season 1 and didn't get to reunite with Boxleitner on the show. Jurasik and Boxleitner shared a lot of screen time, though.
That's been on my watch list for a while. I was more of a Sliders guy as a kid
Glad someone brought up Babylon 5, hopefully they eventually watch it
Damned you right. It's fucking Londo Mollari. The Betrayer, the Emperor, the Sacrifice.
I love that you put 1982 on the screen for most of the film. I saw Tron with my step dad who was a computer expert and taught me how computers worked before the movie came out. We loved it. Everyone leaving the theater over 12 years old looked confused.
Nice!
One of my favorite live action Disney movies!
It got snubbed at the Oscars for Best Visual Effects, as the Academy thought that using CGI was cheating, until it was approved in 1985 when Young Sherlock Holmes showed the very first CGI character.
I appreciate that you specifically stated that Jeff Bridges' performance was great.
Love you guys. Happy New Year!
I almost sh%t a brick when I saw the thumbnail for this video. That's how much I love this movie. After this you have to check out the Tron cartoon by Disney that came out a few years ago. The music in it is awesome too.
I instantly fell in love with this movie the day I saw it on VHS as a kid over 20 years ago!
I still have the Tron 2.0 killer app game and I'm never giving it away!
The light cycle games were the best!
And I love the sequel and the uprising series that was unfairly cancelled
I saw this film in theaters when it first came out. Not only were theater screens in general bigger at the time, this movie was shot and projected in 70mm, which is how I saw it in Manhattan.
The psychedelic imagery - which was kind of where arcade games were at the time, giving the movie the feel of being INSIDE a video game - it was an insane experience, especially with the ability of the “camera” to swoop around the digital models in ways you couldn’t see in live action at the time.
But it was also kind of overwhelming, which is partly why the movie didn’t do so well against its budget at the time.
Question: if you get laser-zapped into the grid, and someone changes your file extension while you’re there, what happens to you?
Another great Jeff Bridges performance is John Carpenter’s Starman, with Karen Allen (who is also great in the film).
Arcades are actually making a comeback. Mixing both traditional games, new ones, and consoles.
The ending of Tron when all the I/O towers light up and the world gets all its lights back reminds me of the end of Wreck it Ralph after Turbo gets iced. I think Wreck it Ralph is paying homage there.
Influential. Very. Sometimes it's not fair to point out obvious copying as low hanging fruit - but your observation shows the same concept in a clever way.
The special effects are now over forty years old (I think each frame of the CGI sequences was separately rendered), but that light cycle scene is still totally awesome!
Jeff Bridges is fantastic in this, but Bruce Boxleitner doesn’t get enough credit for how much he also sells the plausibility of the world in this. I also love a setting where the ultimate weapon is a frisbee :P TRON Legacy is great, but if you get the chance, play the video game TRON 2.0
1:31 - The 'Lightcycle' cabinet is actually the cabinet for the actual TRON arcade game. The game used a trackball and you could play games based on several key sequences in the movie, including one game based on just a 3 second world-building clip.
2:55 - One of the narrative aspects of this movie that I love is that in real life, the Users are just inputting programming commands into their work stations, but the Programs interpret it as having direct conversations with their Users.
3:37 - You're either gonna love or hate Bit. He's Great-grandfather to Navi from Ocarina of Time.
13:00 - Dillenger's been having actual conversations with his Operating System and NOW is when he realizes he's created a monster.
13:47 - In 1872, a writer named Samuel Butler theorized of a society that realized that it's machines were destined to evolve beyond humanity and so forbade any technology more advanced than 300 years prior. In 1965, Frank Herbert would adapt this idea into the Butlerian Jihad in the background of his Dune novels. The idea of the Robot Apocalypse is older than electronic computers.
14:11 - But you ARE a cinephile, so you should know this line. Check out a classic sci-fi movie called The Day The Earth Stood Still (or just rewatch Army of Darkness).
15:14 - The People Mover ride at Disneyland, which was an elevated tram system that moved people around Tomorrowland, had a dark tunnel section where the walls mimicked this section of the movie.
20:06 - Nobody ever had. TRON was the first movie to make extensive use of computer-assisted imaging...and they were disqualified from the Oscars because of it. The Academy considered using computers 'cheating.'
23:47 - Don't forget: Flynn isn't just a User, he's a PROGRAMMER. The MCP wants to be god, Flynn actually IS god.
30:21 - IT IS! You found a Hidden Mickey!!!
31:09 - DUMONT is the manager of the I/O tower. His User is Walter Gibbs, the old man from the Laser Lab that went to talk to Dillinger. Gibbs was also the creator of the MCP. SARK is Dillinger's program that he uses to interface with the MCP. YORI is the program that Flynn's ex, Laura, uses to control the dematerialization laser.
36:10 - This moment is the reason the movie got a PG rating. At the time, it was the most graphic death ever in a Disney film because you can see SARKs brains.
39:27 - Probably seconds. At most a few minutes. The biggest chunk of Real Time that passed between when Flynn was digitized and he reappeared was probably when Alan was programming the last bit of code into TRON. The pacing of the story breaks down if you think about it too much, so just let it go.
44:40 - I believe that AI art programs should ONLY be used by people to produce example images to help communicate the concept of the piece to the actual artist.
49:26 - Here's a video of gameplay from the TRON arcade game. ua-cam.com/video/GmPbeHCkAmc/v-deo.html
Greetings program! Btw, David Warner, who played Sark, was also the voice of the MCP, so essentially, he was talking to himself.
The Tron arcade game came out right before the film and was the coolest arcade game of all time. The Tron film was way ahead of its time in so many areas. Keep in mind that all the CGI was done without a way to preview the animation. The shots had to be perfect the first time as it may take a week to render out a sequence or even a shot back then.
One of my earliest memories, was my mother taking me to the theater to see this movie, when I was 4 years old.
On that day, I fell in love with film, computers, and video games.
At 18:40, the sport they are playing was inspired by a Basque sport called Jai-Alai. It was popular in the 80s as a form of gambling where spectators would bet on the players. That hook shaped basked they use the throw the ball was called a cesta. The ball was called the pelota.
I went to see one game while in South Florida. It's fast!
Tron is an adventure movie. It's a silent film-era story (hence the art style) using modern (for the early 80s) special effects.
Awesome to see people reacting to Tron, especially because the third one is supposed to come out next year! Hopefully more people get into this franchise!
The problem with the 3rd movie is it's not a direct sequel but a standalone film. No Jeff Bridges, plus Jared leto being in it. The music being some by nine inch nails should be interesting. I'm probably going to watch it but don't have high hopes for it
Cant wait for yall to get through this so you can see Legacy
Can confirm that it's already been recorded and coming!
@@OctoKroolSahweet!!!! Can’t wait to watch the reaction
@@OctoKrool , hell yeah !!!
@@OctoKrool100% the right call, that movie is a sensory delicacy for the eyes and ears. End of line.
but legacy is trash
“This would go hard in da club”
Wait till they hear the sequel music soundtracked by Daft Punk
Daft Punk has gone on record saying the TRON soundtrack was their insperation for forming.
Gort! Klaatu barada niktu is from the old 1951 movie The day the earth stood still. It stops the robot (Gort) from destroying the earth.
In 1992's Army of darkness, Ash has to say Klaatu barada niktu to close the portal opened by the Necronomicon.
Also, I just saw an ad for A.I. earpieces that autotranslate languages, instead of actually taking the time to learn the languages.
Three of Jabba's palace guards were also named Klaatu, Barada, and Nikto in Return of the Jedi as well, an homage to The Day The Earth Stood Still.
KLAATU BARADA NI- Necktie… nectar… nickel?
I know the sequel wasn’t as well received but I still think it is a fun ride and worth watching.
One of my favourite details in the whole movie is that the byte can only say "Yes", or "positive" or "1" or "No" or "Negative" or "0".
The byte can literally only communicate in 1s and 0s.
Bear in mind, at the time this movie came out, the effects in it were absolutely GROUNDBREAKING. It should have gotten that year's Oscar for Visual SFX, but instead that honor went to ET (do not get me started). Tron was given a "Special" Oscar for its effects just a few years ago, so I guess that is something.
what was it like to see this in the 80s? I was 9 when this came out and it changed my life, I knew I wanted to be involved in computers and technology. My Father got me my 1st computer a year later (TI 99-4A) and I spend days and days learning how to code on it.
I was 24, in the Navy and assigned to a prototype air traffic control facility using computers to merge multiple radar signals from distant locales to create a large area for use by a single location (over the Atlantic from Daytona beach to Charleston SC). The film only increased my desire to use computers.
Loved my TI 99-4A!!
Pure nerd moment... this film was done by people who couldn't see the graphics. Literally. All plotted out on pencil, and even using a Cray supercomputer, it took months to render each scene. No previews. Just a month or so and if it worked, brilliant! If not you literally had to adjust and wait another month. Look into the making, it's kinda fascinating.
The scene where Flynn, Laura, and Allen are on the stairs as the security guard passed them was filmed at Lawrence Livermore labs. Its just a 2 story building but there is a sign noting Tron was filmed there (at least during family day)
That’s where the giant door is too.
TRON’s Disc War finishing move made digital Lucky Charms come out of SARK’s head, change my mind
Actually is was just a broken cereal cable.
Okay, I'm milking this too much.
7:25 Know your audience. You're reacting to the 1982 film, Tron. How many jocks do you think are watching? LOL!
This was essentially the first theatrical use of CGI.
The sequel has the best CGI and best soundtrack of any movie. Watch in the dark.
It's easy to tell who were young when Legacy came out. The adoration is almost embarrassing. :P I was already a young man when this released or I'd be like that seeing the first as a kid.
I remember when this came out in the theater. I didn’t really understand it as a child, but it looked so cool. Thanks for reacting to older movies.👏🏾
this was the first movie i ever saw as a child. glad to see more people getting to experience it.
I cannot remember the first movie I saw as a child. It would've been in the 60's though since I remember the OG Planet of the Apes, 2001, Butch Cassidy, etc. BTW - I recognize Lancelot from the amazing film Excalibur.
As someone who saw this as a kid in the Theatre...it still resonates with me. It was amazing. Disney World now has a Tron Lightcycle coaster ride...that just shows you the longevity and popularity this film is in fandom.
@OctoKrool , I think you'll love the sequel to this; Tron: Legacy (2010).
It gives a lot of context to the world of Tron. It's more relatable to today, and Daft Punk won several awards for their work on the soundtrack.
When I was a kid, my parents rented this movie for me and my younger brother on the weekend. Back when VHS tapes and VCR's were new. And we watched it over and over and over and over again. One of my all time favorite films. The arcade game also made this film a thing for me. Glad you saw it!
This movie changed how movies got made. Amazing how they pulled this movie off. Awesome reaction!
Now you absolutely have to watch the sequel. Very good movie, and much, much better special effects.
Since you guys watched Tron... NOW YOU HAVE TO WATCH TRON: LEGACY!! The story has pretty mixed reviews... A lot of people HATED the age regression CGI they did on Jeff Bridges to make him CLU... But I think the story itself is pretty solid and a GREAT continuation of Tron as a franchise! Not to mention the ENTIRE SOUNDTRACK WAS DONE BY DAFT PUNK!!! The soundtrack has this very "Tron" futuristic feel to... Which is literally what DAFT PUNK ARE KNOWN FOR... So pretty much ALL of the songs on the soundtrack are STRAIGHT BANGERS!!!
You may enjoy watching some other AI films such as "The Lawnmower Man" (1992, directed by Brett Leonard, based on a Stephen King's story, with Pierce Brosnan), and "Virtuosity" (1995, again directed by Brett Leonard, with Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe), and why not "Johnny Mnemonic" (1995, by Robert Longo from Tales from the Crypt, and William Gibson the Father of Cyberpunk and the Matrix; with Keanu Reeves, Dolph Lundgren and Takeshi Kitano from Battle Royale).
I played this video game and arcade all the time back in the eighties
The second is also crazy good.
The whole idea of Tron's characters is what the founder of ENCOM said in the office. "Our spirit remains in every program we design for this computer". Every program character was a reflection of the real-world person who built and used the program, including how they feel about others.
14:15 that’s from the day the earth stood still in 1951, I thought it was from Army of Darkness but that came out in 1992
If you're going down the 80s CGI rabbit hole, you NEED to include The Last Starfighter! (WarGames, too, but for a host of different reasons.)
Everyone talks about the CGI but I think the really amazing thing is that this movie is in fact animated. Yes, every scene was animated. But you saw people right? Every frame had to be printed in black and white, a matte created, etc. I’m not aware of any other film created in this way as it was so time consuming and expensive. There is a great documentary that explains how it was made, how the graphics were done to that standard when most people had a Commodore 64 with a low resolution and 16 colours. You will love the next one, it’s just as crazy.
Jeff Bridges father was Lloyd Bridges, and he was a famous tv actor in the early 60's, but he was also in the movie Airplane. Jeff's brother Beu is another actor as well
I saw this movie as the second half of a double feature in the summer of 1982. The first half was "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan," which is now named to the National Film Registry.
I hope Tron also gets named to the registry one day.
Funny that video games to this day use red for enemy and blue for team mates!
Oddly the enemy light cycles here are blue with gold and red used for others. That's funny when using the 'standard' to compare with.
Classic! If you can find a copy,check out Looker,Outland,Saturn 3,Heartbeats,Galaxina, Barbarella.😊
I'm a dyslexic author and struggle with spelling and grammar. I completely agree with the over use of A.I.
I do use A.I. to help me with spelling and correcting my sentence structure. It's taught me and I learned from it.
I also have someone going over my work. I work so hard. My first novel should be done soon. A fantasy novel Iron Badger.
I believe the more important point is many never bother 'spell-checking' themselves or reading back what they wrote in order to avoid redundancy by using different words to still get the message across. It's part of the concept of 'merit' so many disregard.
My dad wanted one of those built-in bigscreen desks after seeing the movie, who didn’t?-Back in the 80’s, when computer monitors were still big CRT boxes, he fixed his first work-computer desk so that the monitor rested in a box underneath by the feet, and put see-through glass on the top.
A future Starman (Starman), a future Capt. Sheridan (B5),and Future Londo Molari (B5),and David Warner(Time Bandits)...😊
Just outside Chicago, we have the world's largest arcade with around 1000 games to play. Galloping Ghost Arcade. $25 all day play
Good catch on the MICKY MOUSE. I didn't know about it until I watched this with commentary on the original DVD release back in early 2000.
And before anyone says that the director come up with the name from a call in Basic (Someone always says this) Here is the director on how he came up with the name:
Lisberger elaborates: "Everybody was doing backlit animation in the 70s, you know. It was that disco look. And we thought, what if we had this character that was a neon line, and that was our Tron warrior - Tron for electronic.
There was a short-lived TV show that came out about a year after this called Automan and had similar effects on the suit and he even had that same thing following him around called cursor that could created vehicles and stuff for him
Good catch on Mickey mouse and Pac man, not many people get them on first viewing. Fun times as always Tabarnak!
Techbros in 2024: We have finally manged to create the Master Control Program from the beloved 80s movie; "Don't Make the Master Control Program"!
"Are they trying to make Programming look cool?"
I don't think I have ever heard it said better! LOL
Great choice, fellas!
18:24 The big scoops game is based on a real life game called jai alai.
I hope you see Tron 2! I had to wait 28 years while you can just jump forward in moments. :)
A true 80s classic in every respect. Although the CGI may seem outdated in today's age, that doesn't change the fact that audiences can still enjoy it. Plus, Jeff Bridges gives a great performance xxxx
This is my favorite movie of all time.
I love the dogs tongue sticking out during the review
At the time the movie din't get any nomination to the Oscars awards for its technical aspects, cause at the time the "Use of Computer generated Images, was considered Cheating"...
Oh O lord, how far have we come...
Easily one of my favorite movies. This is some of Jeff Bridges' best work.
I know a lot of people love the 'Dude' but I find that character a lazy effort from someone very capable of doing more than 'playing themselves'.
"this music would go well in a club" . you should see the sequel then.
The Daft Punk Movie with some CGI in it and other references to TRON. That's the impression I get from most of the comments. :P
This was cutting edge in it's day and is a good story, and who doesn't enjoy watching Jeff Bridges.
The game with the "Scoop" gauntlets is loosely based on sport called Jai-Alai. You play it with a small ball in a 4 sided room(kind of like Raquetball) and you use the scoop to collect and launch the ball into play.
Pretty sure they hand keyed and painted most of the GRID because CG still was being developed and couldn't render what they needed or do what they wanted at the time. There was CG models for the light cycles and other moving vehicles, but i think in a dvd interview they explained even with those, they had to still hand key the backgrounds and lighting using a specific film layering technique. This movie had heart behind it and it definitely showed for the time. Heck the following was so popular it basically got disney to greenlight the sequel for 2010. Also. Whoever thought of light cycles probably watched akira and they deserve recognition
It's not like the Matrix had anything to do with Disney realizing they have access to their own version of a very popular IP.
The grid and bikes were both computer-rendered. And the bike from Akira was inspired by the light cycles from this film.
@Nebulous6 ahhh I had it backwards then. Saw the making of documentary so long ago, but dang. Akiras cycle was the one that was inspired. I can definitely see it.
One of my all-time favorite Disney movies was NOT on my Bingo card for what I thought you'd be watching. I'm not sure if this was a stepping stone to its sequel or what it is but I'm super glad you guys watched it. Sure, it kind of helps if you saw this back then when this was still cutting-edge stuff but it's still a great concept and a really fun movie. The sequel, which was made many years later, is much more in line with today's standards and probably a lot easier for the young people to enjoy. Well, maybe with one exception because people can't ever just enjoy something, they have to point out where it came up short. But I still highly recommend watching the sequel. If you guys liked this one then you'll probably LOVE the next one. Don't want to mention some of the things as to not spoil it for you, even if it is just cast members, but to raise hype a little, they are working on getting a third one made. Can't be all that bad.
Very glad you guys seemed to enjoy this movie for what it is and I hope you give that same love to the sequel. So many gave credit to movies like Wreck-It Ralph for showing the idea of the lives of programs on the other side of the screen but I always looked at movies like that as the rip-off as it's been done before. Of course I love Wreck-It Ralph as well but I wasn't fooled for a second.
I think the reference to Klaatu on Alan's cubical wall is from "The Day the Earth stood still" an old sci fi film that was remade with Keanu Reeves as the star.
The name Klaatu was also used as a band name back in the 70's.
There was a book called "The Machine Stops" that was published way back in 1909, that predicted that people would become stupid and lazy from depending on technology!
Saw this in theater when I was 5, loved it as a kid, never really knew what it was about till I was a teenager and saw it, made me appreciate it even more. I was lucky enough to be at sdcc to see the Flynn arcade made and got to play old school games and then saw the sequel in imax, waiting to hear on the 3rd one
21:35 "The White Zone is for loading and unloading of passengers only!"
I think that might be the same woman. 😝
You forgot the synthetic crewman who betrayed everyone in Alien.
This 1982 Tron movie was the one movie Disney begged movie theater chains to play and nobody cared to play it. Eventually one did and people went to see it and it supposedly was entertaining enough to get Disney movies seen more often on the big screen. Now Disney has their own streaming service and are basically bigger than the movie industry. Irony?
The actual irony: Disney got where they are today by gobbling up studios left and right (Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Fox, ...) just like the MCP, and are currently headed to becoming an amoty shell like it. They also had their share of plagiarism accusations (Stealing ideas for e.g. The Lion King and Onward), and their streaming service still lags behind Netflix and Amazon.
Now you need to watch the sequel Tron: Legacy. Daft Punk makes a cameo in it.
Gort Klaatu Barada Nikto - reference for the Army of the Dead movie
Actually, that line was originally from “The Day the Earth Stood Still” from 1951.
Orders to a robot named GORT. The orders can be understood by the context in which they were given. From the alien in control of Gort who was wounded, to a human female to give to the Robot on standby. Pretty much a come and get me and if something happens to me - you know what to do.
FYI Users can never be deleted, only trapped or sent back whole when derezzed, the laser just automatically de-digitizes them
"I want him in the games till he DIES playing".
@@terrylandess6072 Post legacy canon made this clear, as long as you have your disc you can always be restored
Flynn and Uri had been a couple in the real world but their attraction for each other still reached into the micro computer realm and both thought Tron was dead so they partnered up with each other again which felt natural to them. This movie had a religious undertone where you heard the master control guards and Stark call them religious fanatics because they believed in the existence of the users, the ones who programed and created them. This movie was made in such a way that it will never be repeated ever again due to it's extreme difficulty. They used black screen as the background so the white suits and various colors they used would show up against it. Some of the cells were stacked to such a degree to get the final exposure shot that some had up to 72 layers just for one cell. They had to farm out the colorization process to an Asian outfit to hand paint the color cells because it would have been so expensive it couldn't be done within the budget Disney had slated the movie for. There's a documentary outlining the whole production of this movie that shows you how extremely difficult it was to produce and yet it was done, but it will never be repeated ever agin and I highly recommend watching that documentary because this procedure was ground breaking to such an extent it gave Disney studios a new life to get back into the movie making business again which it owes its current stature to this movie. Disney was a has been movie studio before this movie was created and Tron brought it back from its deathbed. Strange that Disney creates a movie in 1982 with religious tones that helped pull that studio out of the dumpster and now Disney turns its back on anything wholesome today.
@39:29 I always imagined it took as long as it took the orange to get zapped and reappear earlier in the movie.