he doesn't have the most aggressive play style, wizzy would rather be patient and go for the optimal options, nothing too fancy. regardless, he is the the best falcon and this was a pretty good set
Idk, that was entertaining to me as well, but I really appreciate how Wizzrobe played this matchup. Not approaching too often, but mixing that up to throw Hbox off. I guess I enjoy defensive playstyles. :o
I think HBox really underestimated Wizzy's patience and ability to zone efficiently. Wizzy did both of those things incredibly well, especially on Dreamland. Actually, counter-picking to Dreamland was probably a mistake, since Wizzy has always been good on that stage (in every Smash game). If anything HBox should have noticed the heavy use of platform zoning (especially by using variations of movement via Falcon's speed) and adjusted by counter-picking to another stage (Fountain of Dreams perhaps).
I'm Wondering It is the comments of a competitive match, and I am competitively analyzing it based upon my over decade of viewing experience and nearly a decade of playing experience. I thought it up and wrote it down because I felt it was worth sharing, and perhaps I could get other intelligent opinions on it (as oppose to your complaining). Do we call comments with analysis and opinions "annoying" now from someone with competitive experience now? Or are comments on UA-cam just for hate speech, stupid memes and complaining about people actually talking about what takes place in the video?
To go off of what Blur's commentary touched on, the Falcon-Jigglypuff match up is rough for Jigglypuff if Falcon uses his speed to move around a lot. Speed kills floaties when they can't make solid contact, especially when you mix in that wonderful platform zoning Wizzy did. HBox should have recognized that plus puff's inability to vertically cover space quickly and cover the high top platform is what hurt him the most. HBox should have recognized that and counter-picked to or a stage with lower platforms so he could safely poke Falcon from below (namely Fountain of Dreams), as well as adjusted by hanging out on the platforms more to make up for puffs' lack of vertical mobility.
Most people play Cool Guy Falcon. We all know him. He stomps and knees and throws all day, and everyone loves him. However, there is a darker Falcon, said to play so lame that he goes at least 5-5 against Peach and Puff. He is known as...*Shadow Falcon*. Shadow Falcon is only selected by people so young or naive that they have no idea what kind of Pandora's Box they are opening. Wizy is one such individual. Look at how he dismantles HBox's soul without remorse. He even cleans his glasses in between games to further his descent into the cesspool of lameness. He has done the impossible, and actually ran the clock of HBox's patience. (But seriously, real talk now: Mad props to Wizy for his amazing Falcon play in this match. I'm gonna take a page out of his book since I like playing defensively with non-floaties, as well, and try to study his play. I also take zero credit for the "Shadow Falcon" joke; that goes to Scar, when he commentated "the best worst match" Marth mirror at Evo 2016.)
15:07 How could you not? His gameplan and execution lead to such consistent results. His insistence on covering every option is sustainable in the long term. There'll be no 20GX without Wizzrobe
ya let's go wizzrobe!!! best falcon atm; there really isn't much of an argument against that anymore. as a falcon main this is not only amazing to watch and learn from, but is very inspirational.
Wizzy wasnt playing to style, he was playing to win. Puff is basically a glass cannon, extreme damage output but very easy to kill if she shows a punishable gap. And thats where falcon's forte comes from, his punish game is strong both in damage and knockback wise. PS: Hbox is a sore loser; cant accept defeat even after so many 1st places in majors.
ciamarrajohn The inside of your head: "I just took the bait. Fuck. Okay lets act as if I didn't. Hahaha you're bad i r8 b8 of u 0/8 wow so terrible I didn't even take it pshhh nuh uh."
Hbox shouldve went FOD when he noticed Wizzy dash dancing as much as he did. He also never changed his timing out of shield which lost him like 4 stocks
I've been telling u guys fox isn't the anwser to hbox (unless u can play like armada) he knows the matchup so well, just switching to fox like Westballz isn't gonna work just stick with ur main, people saying hbox is making 20xx happen because everyone goes fox against him like u don't have to go fox against him there r so many others characters that beat puff besides fox
Hey Wizzy, you are my favourite Falcon and i guess you're a chilled dude. BUT, get some self-confidence, put yourself on the market as the golden child or whatever bullshit you can potentially come up with. Don't be shy, let the people know you want to be the sickest Falcon out there, tell them you want to be the first one to win a major with the Captain. You need a little bit of Mango's arrogance and extroversion and you could truly become a legend in the scene, or it'll provide, at the very least, some handy tailwind. Peace, an anonymous friend.
apocalypseap Absolutely! He needs to stay who he is. I just don't quite understand why he is being so shy and reluctant in a thing he loves to do. I mean look at M2k, probably a very withdrawn guy in everyday life, but in the Smash community he is another person. I think Justin should simply take it easy and start to enjoy himself and the great thing he has with Melee to the fullest. He could be cocksure of himself, at least be more outgoing, which would make his life better and easier i would assume.
"That's the kind of set that you don't wanna loose with pizza shoes on"
11:58 Are you sure he doesn't have "oh my" moments?
13:22
15:26
6:55
8:01
This needs more thumb ups
hahahaha best comment
I don’t think mango has ever been so incredibly wrong about anything involving melee in his entire life
Mango's sound when he actually got the grab for the punish lmao
so good the way wizzy plays falcon almost like syrup on pancakes
Too true
I'm glad you kept Hbox's pouting on the end.
Mango: Wizzy wont make you have a lot of those... "wow" moments
Also Mango: ..... was that a falcon kick?!
that was more of a "cant believe that worked" than a "wow" moment.
+Eliud Espinoza definitely wowed when wizzy deathed comboed hbox after DIing the rest perfectly
+Eliud Espinoza ... but a "can't believe that worked" is a "wow" moment...
a does not always equal c.
***** A is always B, but B is not always A. :|
The Wizzrobe is a term in Smash 64 for Yoshi, he would randomly just down b and it works often. Just a little for the Melee people.
9:55 Hbox's right hand you're welcome
esports
+dim benes I was there. Someone yelled, "Get 3-0'd, fool!"
lol I didn't notice
and people say hbox is a humble man lol
It's because my friend yelled "HBOX STAND UP" from the front row. You can kinda hear it at the end of the 2nd game but it's covered up by commentary.
u know mango loved watching hbox be emo
So do I.
cringebox
Oh, you know he loved it! Hbox embodied Mang0's 2015 in just one oddshot.
I could watch evo 2016 ending over and over, it's almost sad seeing his fake-cry to instant popoff tech. Almost.
He's histrionic incarnate
+ciamarrajohn
I'll admit, it was the weirdest evo popoff i've ever seen but after that comeback, who wouldn't pop off?
Mang0 saying Wizz isn't one of the most entertaining Falcons: 3-0ing Hungrybox is pretty entertaining to me
he doesn't have the most aggressive play style, wizzy would rather be patient and go for the optimal options, nothing too fancy. regardless, he is the the best falcon and this was a pretty good set
yeah. playing in that style is the only way a falcon is beating hbox. i cant see any other falcon pull that off
He plays a really good yoshi in 64 as well, and he's always been a strong defensive player, which made him perfectly suited for this match.
He definitely has a boring playstyle compared to most falcons... but he plays smart and effectively which is why he won. That's all mango was saying.
Idk, that was entertaining to me as well, but I really appreciate how Wizzrobe played this matchup. Not approaching too often, but mixing that up to throw Hbox off. I guess I enjoy defensive playstyles. :o
*Viability Intensifies*
I like watching Hbox's face as it dawns on him that he is going to lose to a 13 year old boy.
+Commander VHS it was sarcasm m8
+Commander VHS at least I think lmao
one of the long-time gods defeated by a 12 year old. who would have thought.
wizzy is an impressive melee player for only being 11
I know he's 10 but I don't think age has anything to do with skill.
Destroys a god, then walks away with his roller backpack. LOL
ML Jesus THE BEST COMMENT HOLY SHIT
I'm a simple man. I see Hungrybox lose, I smile.
Haters will say this is photoshopped
"When was the last time a god got 3-0'd by a non god" ... PPMD at Battle of the Five Gods FeelsBadMan :(
given what PP's been going through recently I wouldn't be too hard on the guy
Technically Mew2king at Battle of the 5 gods.
WIZY BOUT TO DASHDANCE INTO HBOX'S GIRLS DMS
The age gap would make it awkward.
+Mr.Tas but the salt
This comment is so funny in hindsight
I think HBox really underestimated Wizzy's patience and ability to zone efficiently.
Wizzy did both of those things incredibly well, especially on Dreamland. Actually, counter-picking to Dreamland was probably a mistake, since Wizzy has always been good on that stage (in every Smash game).
If anything HBox should have noticed the heavy use of platform zoning (especially by using variations of movement via Falcon's speed) and adjusted by counter-picking to another stage (Fountain of Dreams perhaps).
You're one of those annoying people.
+I'm Wondering Well his analysis was pretty on point
I'm Wondering It is the comments of a competitive match, and I am competitively analyzing it based upon my over decade of viewing experience and nearly a decade of playing experience.
I thought it up and wrote it down because I felt it was worth sharing, and perhaps I could get other intelligent opinions on it (as oppose to your complaining).
Do we call comments with analysis and opinions "annoying" now from someone with competitive experience now?
Or are comments on UA-cam just for hate speech, stupid memes and complaining about people actually talking about what takes place in the video?
To go off of what Blur's commentary touched on, the Falcon-Jigglypuff match up is rough for Jigglypuff if Falcon uses his speed to move around a lot. Speed kills floaties when they can't make solid contact, especially when you mix in that wonderful platform zoning Wizzy did.
HBox should have recognized that plus puff's inability to vertically cover space quickly and cover the high top platform is what hurt him the most. HBox should have recognized that and counter-picked to or a stage with lower platforms so he could safely poke Falcon from below (namely Fountain of Dreams), as well as adjusted by hanging out on the platforms more to make up for puffs' lack of vertical mobility.
John the white knight
Shoutouts to Smash Studios for uploading there VODs quickly.
Man what a classic set. I had a hard time finding this on youtube, these two have played a lot in the last 8 years.
This set is still funny. Mango saying it's not his cup of tea and somewhere someone is losing it, then proceeds to lose it when Wizzy wins lol.
Most people play Cool Guy Falcon. We all know him. He stomps and knees and throws all day, and everyone loves him. However, there is a darker Falcon, said to play so lame that he goes at least 5-5 against Peach and Puff. He is known as...*Shadow Falcon*.
Shadow Falcon is only selected by people so young or naive that they have no idea what kind of Pandora's Box they are opening. Wizy is one such individual. Look at how he dismantles HBox's soul without remorse. He even cleans his glasses in between games to further his descent into the cesspool of lameness. He has done the impossible, and actually ran the clock of HBox's patience.
(But seriously, real talk now: Mad props to Wizy for his amazing Falcon play in this match. I'm gonna take a page out of his book since I like playing defensively with non-floaties, as well, and try to study his play. I also take zero credit for the "Shadow Falcon" joke; that goes to Scar, when he commentated "the best worst match" Marth mirror at Evo 2016.)
DiscoCokkroach Amazing comment.
Blur and mango on commentary :)
"Wizzy's mom is definitely losing it right now" best line in melee commentary
I like mango's commentary in this, he doesn't scream and shout random shit, like some people...
Love the glasses-cleaning meta lol. Wizzrobe rocks.
WIZZY IS THE MESSIAH OF 20GX
13:18
"he might get punished"
"YEEEHHHHH"
Wizzy's patience is astounding.
Tiltbox is funny. Haven't seen it in a while outside pm
GnW is dumb tho
+Lordy's Smash Channel lol yeah
The rest punish was insannnnnne
That Wizzy smrik on that rest punish
Holy shit the Plup/Hbox laughing commentary gets me everytime
That comment about hbox's shoes still makes me laugh so fucking hard. I'll think about it in the shower and it makes me laugh
13:18 this one, grsmash
Top 10 rest punishes?
15:07 How could you not? His gameplan and execution lead to such consistent results. His insistence on covering every option is sustainable in the long term. There'll be no 20GX without Wizzrobe
15:27 the most I've ever seen wizzy pop off lol
"That's the kind of set you don't want to lose with pizza shoes on"
Wizzrobe has improved so much it's insane
4:40 "what if wizzy beat hbox right now?"
Mang0 plz
He's 18...
*11
LUL
isnt he 14???? IMAGINE WHEN HE'S 18 !!! OMG
He's a fetus
Mango's son
Wizzrobe is most definitely 18.
The person screaming like a madman in the background is KPan. LOL
welcome back viewer
Most enjoyable HBox set ever
ya let's go wizzrobe!!! best falcon atm; there really isn't much of an argument against that anymore. as a falcon main this is not only amazing to watch and learn from, but is very inspirational.
Wizzy reminds me a lot of Armada. He waits around for you to make a mistake in your approach, and then takes the punish as far as possible.
Wizy had me excited the whole time! His dash dancing really is amazing!
Game one made me cream my fucking pants. That fucking holdoff on grab was so, so brilliant, even mango took notice.
13:34 Wizzys laughing because he camps HBox back ROFL
Sverre Vinje LMAO I never noticed that. Good eye
Can someone make a wtfox combo video of wizzy that starts with Mang0 calling him boring. Some of those combo's were insane
MELEE IS ALIVE AND WIZZY REVIVED IT
Melee never died?
+jebril it was getting stale because of Hungrybox's reign
+jebril like 3 times already
Ulisses Mata It never really died maybe went down a little in the beginning of Brawl and that's it.
Wizzy wasnt playing to style, he was playing to win. Puff is basically a glass cannon, extreme damage output but very easy to kill if she shows a punishable gap. And thats where falcon's forte comes from, his punish game is strong both in damage and knockback wise.
PS: Hbox is a sore loser; cant accept defeat even after so many 1st places in majors.
You're so dumb
I cant help but notice the image accompanying that sentence.
ciamarrajohn idiot
Ah you've made your point. Now I understand. Bad b8 m8 I r8 0/8
ciamarrajohn The inside of your head: "I just took the bait. Fuck. Okay lets act as if I didn't. Hahaha you're bad i r8 b8 of u 0/8 wow so terrible I didn't even take it pshhh nuh uh."
16:45 really that's what you're going for? The one hand consolation massage?
JAJAJAJ!!
Probably didn't console. They probably told him to get up cause they have more matches to play.
Hbox shouldve went FOD when he noticed Wizzy dash dancing as much as he did. He also never changed his timing out of shield which lost him like 4 stocks
"That's the kind of set you don't want to lose with pizza-shoes on."
lmfao
WHAT. THE. FOX!
I'm mad that Mango got to do commentary for this legendary set. He doesn't even like Wizzy lmao
13:13 fucking insane.
mang0 commentary while hbox is getting bodied Kreygasm
13:17 looks kinda like a Wizzy Yoshi64 punish/0-death, right?
That was the biggest pop off ive ever seen from wizzrobe
I still think about Mango's noise at 13:18 all these years later
Whizy, an American Hero :D
Congratulations Wizzrobe!! Road to #1!!
requesting video title be changed to The Day the Earth Stood Still
Wizzy Popoff: get my things, get my rolley back pack, and ROLL. later stream, like a boss..
How little we knew about what's to come
all over my feed. let's see how bad this was.
People underestimate how defensive Captain Falcon actually is.
I've been telling u guys fox isn't the anwser to hbox (unless u can play like armada) he knows the matchup so well, just switching to fox like Westballz isn't gonna work just stick with ur main, people saying hbox is making 20xx happen because everyone goes fox against him like u don't have to go fox against him there r so many others characters that beat puff besides fox
Hbox gets rattled every single time he gets up aired Jesus Christ settle down pizza man
I love that Mango is commentating
13:10 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
history in the making
Wizzy just played perfect.
Amazing set and amazing commentating, but BLUR neeeeds to get the mic out of his mouth. He is so loud.
10:35 Oh, you mean the S2J?
HBox just couldnt bair the 3-0 at the end
Wizzrobe the prodigy!
Legends say H Box stay on the chair over 9000 rest
Or like The Little Falcon that Could.
The best part of the set is @13:13 that combo
"BLEEEEEHH"
Wiz robe is the future of mele, he's already better than S2J
Although I really lovr this win over Hbox, I really wanted to see all attending gods in the winners semis
8:10 HBox knew he lost the match right there
That was awesome!
wait so did hbox get 3-0d by M2K and wizzy?!
How did this happen? How oh how!!!!
*Windows sound effect*
beautiful
Hey Wizzy,
you are my favourite Falcon and i guess you're a chilled dude. BUT, get
some self-confidence, put yourself on the market as the golden child or
whatever bullshit you can potentially come up with. Don't be shy, let
the people know you want to be the sickest Falcon out there, tell them
you want to be the first one to win a major with the Captain. You need a
little bit of Mango's arrogance and extroversion and you could truly
become a legend in the scene, or it'll provide, at the very least, some
handy tailwind.
Peace,
an anonymous friend.
I think it's fine the way he acts. Everyone's different.
apocalypseap
Absolutely! He needs to stay who he is. I just don't quite understand why he is being so shy and reluctant in a thing he loves to do. I mean look at M2k, probably a very withdrawn guy in everyday life, but in the Smash community he is another person. I think Justin should simply take it easy and start to enjoy himself and the great thing he has with Melee to the fullest. He could be cocksure of himself, at least be more outgoing, which would make his life better and easier i would assume.
"Some where out there some one is losing it" yea, all the 64 players
Damn. Poor HBox, he took that one hard.
damn. he walled him out.
Imagine calling this boring, even 7 years ago.
12:28 wtf a falcon kick?
I'm a Johnny. FeelsGoodMan
13:18 damn.
That was great to watch lollll
Dude for real...get Wizzy to summit...