2 energy Toxin seems nutty. Based off of the limited interactions I've had where my Beast gets copied (Nico, Time Theater, etc.) it really allows Bounce to pop off with some insane plays. Beasting your Beast in particular is amazing because you get a 1 energy Beast every turn, but Toxin and Beast both being 2 still seems pretty wild to me.
I expect your comment on the reason for the Madame Webb nerf was mostly a joke, but I'd expect the real reason that they nerfed Madame Webb was that at 2/3 she was powerful enough to be played like Jeff, the Baby Landshark, as just as flexible powerful card in lots of different decks, not just move.
Tombstone doesn't seem great to me, not only being a 1/6 with nothing special other than being discounted but I just realized it has to be an ENEMY card so you can't even use him in your own destroy decks
Agony seems like a temporary text for now. But as for the forge comparison, forge can buff up brood and she only merges with brood after it's played, thus making the stats meaningless.
Brood flip then she will merge then he will make to copy's all brood will be 4 power. But if you are right and she go's second then she has some surprise combo's
Jeff pronouncing Araña as "Ayana" feels like a purposeful troll to mess with the commentors on precious datamine videos who've tried to correct his "ñ" pronunciation by telling him that it's like theres a y sound after the n. He got the "y" in there, maybe eventually he'll put it in the right place lol.
Random thought, but I think Arana has utility outside of Move (which imo is likely to remain bad, unfortunately, especially with Scream coming out to hose it further). Destroy decks used to run Forge when he was a 1 cost to buff up their Deadpool (or to give to Wolverine or X-23 if you don't have him). However, Hulkbuster more or less replaced Forge when he was nerfed to 2 cost. Arana reads to me as more or less old Forge plus a move, so I think Arana could be used in similar ways that Forge used to be.
If someone can play valkyrie on 6 and gorr on 5(with hope , psylocke, revona,wiccan, etc , it would make gorr an auto 6/5 just that combo that’s a 8 power buff , not to mention what u lower / take from your opponents , that’s a lot of value , then you add his ability it’ll be pretty dam good lol . U auto win that lane for sure regardless cause of valk, so u can spend the other game building up another lane to win . Just one strategy, there’s gonna be quite a few . Looking forward to him and some sick variants .
I wonder if Agony takes on the abilities and name of the card it merged with or if it will keep its name and ability and add on the power from the card played, essentially working like Venom, just over multiple turns.
It's worded like Phoenix Force and Hulkbuster meaning that the card Agony will no longer be on the board after the merge. So far the only card that works the opposite way is Symbiote Spider-Man because of its unique wording.
does green or hobgoblin on my side of the board counts as enemy card? like if I would destroy goblin played by the opponent would fenris wolf then ressurect it? Or it is in my "graveyard" so fenris wont count it as opponent's card destroyed?
Goblins on your side count as your cards, not as enemy cards. We know this based on other interactions and effects. Valley of the Hand is one example. The game only keeps track of the last card that you played, not who is the "original owner" of the cards destroyed or discarded on your side.
The text literally says "your side of this location" meaning your side of the location where your Fenris is. There's no ambiguity here. Please learn to read the text.
My best guess is that most likely activate can work after other cards, I’m excited to see just how much more powerful that makes cards. For example, Fenris working with Shang Chi on 6 seems really good but I have no idea just how much
Jeff’s love of bounce keeps fooling me into thinking that I love bounce.
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Jeff's skill with Bounce keeps fooling me I to thinking I could be good at bounce...😢
@@mxlespxlescame to make your exact comment 😂
Agony into surprise Orka sounds hilarious
More seriously she sounds like she could be a great Namora card
2 energy Toxin seems nutty. Based off of the limited interactions I've had where my Beast gets copied (Nico, Time Theater, etc.) it really allows Bounce to pop off with some insane plays. Beasting your Beast in particular is amazing because you get a 1 energy Beast every turn, but Toxin and Beast both being 2 still seems pretty wild to me.
Surtur also seems fun in Sauron as a backup 3 drop in the games you don't draw the namesake card.
I have a feeling the uncle Ben card could be a card you get from a location like the djinn and not a card u can get with tokens
Mmmm that is an interesting theory!
Nah I think its a playable card because its been in the game files for a very long time
I think the Red Hulk ability was displaying as Red Skull on accident when talking about Gorr and his 6-drop peers
Came here to say this!
I am living for the way Jeff pronounces Surtur
And Araña
He's from the Midwest.
I’m sure Surtur has many suitors
I am living for the way any non-spanish youtuber pronounces Araña 😂😂
I expect your comment on the reason for the Madame Webb nerf was mostly a joke, but I'd expect the real reason that they nerfed Madame Webb was that at 2/3 she was powerful enough to be played like Jeff, the Baby Landshark, as just as flexible powerful card in lots of different decks, not just move.
OOOH and Arana is a 1 Drop to work with Beast and Falcon as well
I would assume activate is once a game bounced or not. We'll learn for sure soon though.
I think Gorr will work well with the Goblins so your opponent has on reveals and still leaves you room as well!
Gorr seems like he’s going to be a super dope card in Wiccan decks, more energy, low curve on reveals to fill the board, etc
Bast being +8 to Gorr by herself is pretty crazy
Agent Venom gives him +9
Wait, am I tripping? It seems that Anti-Venom is made for Gorr. No matter, I'm gonna play this with Mr. Negative.
In before the "I survived snap packs" title.
I'm really excited for this cards! Great video Jeff, thanks for the amazing content.
Thanks for datamine update. Definitely looking forward to a lot of these cards.
Tombstone doesn't seem great to me, not only being a 1/6 with nothing special other than being discounted but I just realized it has to be an ENEMY card so you can't even use him in your own destroy decks
He's a card that pairs with tech like Killmonger.
Very excited for most of these cards
T6 Shang + Fenris Wolf is basically play two cards, flip two locations... insane!
Agony seems like a temporary text for now. But as for the forge comparison, forge can buff up brood and she only merges with brood after it's played, thus making the stats meaningless.
Brood flip then she will merge then he will make to copy's all brood will be 4 power. But if you are right and she go's second then she has some surprise combo's
4:37 you got red hulks ability completely wrong.
Arana and Agony both seem perfect for slotting into a Phoenix Force deck so I’m excited.
Jeff pronouncing Araña as "Ayana" feels like a purposeful troll to mess with the commentors on precious datamine videos who've tried to correct his "ñ" pronunciation by telling him that it's like theres a y sound after the n. He got the "y" in there, maybe eventually he'll put it in the right place lol.
Fenrir will depend a lot on how activate works, that’s going to be an interesting mechanic for sure
When I hear 'Snap Packs' I think of a draft/sealed variant, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's yet another way to get cards
Random thought, but I think Arana has utility outside of Move (which imo is likely to remain bad, unfortunately, especially with Scream coming out to hose it further).
Destroy decks used to run Forge when he was a 1 cost to buff up their Deadpool (or to give to Wolverine or X-23 if you don't have him). However, Hulkbuster more or less replaced Forge when he was nerfed to 2 cost.
Arana reads to me as more or less old Forge plus a move, so I think Arana could be used in similar ways that Forge used to be.
Man. That Gorr is not God Butchering at all. Flavor fail.
If someone can play valkyrie on 6 and gorr on 5(with hope , psylocke, revona,wiccan, etc , it would make gorr an auto 6/5 just that combo that’s a 8 power buff , not to mention what u lower / take from your opponents , that’s a lot of value , then you add his ability it’ll be pretty dam good lol . U auto win that lane for sure regardless cause of valk, so u can spend the other game building up another lane to win . Just one strategy, there’s gonna be quite a few . Looking forward to him and some sick variants .
Fyi the main snap dot fan dataminer says that surtur is likely the season pass card over gorr but it’s all subject to change of course.
With half the cards for that season still missing text, I assume none of it is remotely final.
Not only can Gambit trigger both Stature and Tombstone, he cannot discard both! :D
I wonder if Agony takes on the abilities and name of the card it merged with or if it will keep its name and ability and add on the power from the card played, essentially working like Venom, just over multiple turns.
It's worded like Phoenix Force and Hulkbuster meaning that the card Agony will no longer be on the board after the merge. So far the only card that works the opposite way is Symbiote Spider-Man because of its unique wording.
Im really excited to try tombstone in moongirl death decks
Fuck can not wait for gorr to play him in a thanos deck. Going to be unbelievable
Man looking forward to November cards honestly looks amazing. Venom month is meh everything besides anti venom and scream
Fenris wolf feels like a its really pushed for a 2/3. I guess it depends on the timing like jeff said
Jeff goes undefeated in conquest with bounce deck runs, i get crumpled in first round against tribunal or combo decks who's combos i can't stop
I like the new toxin, it's a bounce flavored carnage!
Misery with Electro 😈😈😈
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I would be surprised if Agony wouldn't come during symbiote season during some special event.
Yep, same.
2:00 Wait, I just realized it says AFTER you play it, so will Agony not buff Brood in the same way Forge does?
Correct.
I wonder how Misery works with Beast. Think we get the on-reveals and have them Beasted to our hand as to avoid their destruction?
i think agony very usefull in destroy deck,she can combo with deadpool and hulkbuster(my private opinion)
I'm also very excited to get Toxin, and I hope I can do a move bounce deck with only araña and not madame web, cos I'll skip her 😅
Red hulk:ongoing:enemy cards here have +2 power
If i dont activate card and then zola it will i have 2 activates? Oh and agony and you use zola will he miss of destroyed him self in to lanes
does green or hobgoblin on my side of the board counts as enemy card? like if I would destroy goblin played by the opponent would fenris wolf then ressurect it? Or it is in my "graveyard" so fenris wont count it as opponent's card destroyed?
Goblins on your side count as your cards, not as enemy cards. We know this based on other interactions and effects. Valley of the Hand is one example. The game only keeps track of the last card that you played, not who is the "original owner" of the cards destroyed or discarded on your side.
I really want surtur to be good, I’ve had Skaar for the longest time and can’t find a deck that works. I’m hoping he is a missing piece
My assumption was that Surtur had to be in play to get the bonus. Do we know if he gets the power if he is in your hand?
Cards have to be in play to work unless their text stats otherwise.
I'm surprised toxin got buffed, definitely gonna go for him and elsa now
No way Toxin stays a 2 drop. If so, Beast moves to 3 again lol.
I have a question when fenris wolf revives a discarded card will it just randomly resurrect it where fenris is or a random side
The text literally says "your side of this location" meaning your side of the location where your Fenris is. There's no ambiguity here. Please learn to read the text.
Agony and killmonger then then Phoenix now can the next card move as will after merge
I really dont like the visual of madame web. Like its bad ugly and not in the good ugly kinda way. Awful color, pose, and just everything
Did i miss a redesign for Red Hulk? Or is this a typo?
Looks like he put red skull’s text by accident lol
4:35
Red hulk with red skulls ability?
Sir-ter
thats a great re design for ayana
Thanos + Gorr hmmmm
its suRtur not suter man.
Bro its not ariana grande its araña 😂
Isn't Arana basically a more flexible old Forge? I would be surprised if she keeps that statline to release.
You cannot trigger her more than once though, unlike Forge who could be Wonged or bounced.
My best guess is that most likely activate can work after other cards, I’m excited to see just how much more powerful that makes cards. For example, Fenris working with Shang Chi on 6 seems really good but I have no idea just how much
I literally explicitly called this out as something we'll need to wait and see how the timing windows for work.
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