Wishlist Eyewinder on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/2590690/Eyewinder/?YTComment The main reason I started this channel was to get feedback on the game, so I'm looking forward to finishing the demo and hearing from you all after you get to play it. The past year has been great and I'm looking forward to seeing where this project goes over the course of the next year! I especially enjoyed all of the suggestions on how to deal with rewinding long running particle systems on the last devlog. I haven't worked any more on that yet because I've been prioritizing features that are must-have for the demo, but whenever I get back around to working on it the first thing I'm doing is going through all of those comments again.
@@BobsMudHut I hope you pick me this game is so fucking cool. Gj man I couldn't ever dream of making a game, regardless of it's quality and I greatly respect all devs.
hey, this is just my opinion, but bob might seem some brighter clothes if you are still doing the cell shading. It is hard to pick up the details in his character because there isn’t much contrast
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the demo being out too. Although after all the bug reports I will probably end up getting I might not be as enthused lol
I've been here since the start, i watched the 1st vid on the first day it came out! shared it with all my friends and we are all super hyped abt it! keep up the great work! (btw, if u streamed you making the game I would 100% watch :) lol)
Appreciate the kind words! Videos have taken a backseat the last 6 months because I've been focusing on finishing the demo but it's close to being done. You are probably going to have to wait awhile for the full game though :)
Loved the comedy bit with my emotes😂! BUT I HAVE TO ASK, did you notice the "sus" text on the bottom right "deadpan" emote??? Not sure if you kept it intentionally or not, it's funny regardless On another note, loved the game updates. Hyped for the quest system especially. AND THAT HUGE FLYING MOB WILL BE MY BRAINROT FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS I SWEAR
Yeah there is some benefit to the reversal of music being more noticeable. For some tracks I think it would be the right fit. I don't know if it comes across as well in the video, but at least for me when playing the game with certain tracks the reversal got annoying after awhile, especially after rewinding a bunch of separate times in succession. So I'm aiming for most of the ambient music that plays in combat/wilderness/puzzles to not be very noticeably reversed. But you still might hear something like the first track for a special gameplay moment or in certain locations where you probably aren't going to be rewinding time very much.
samn, a year has passed already? i remember watching the first vids when they came out, and i absolutely love seeing this project and its community grow!
Loved watching the devlogs for this, and I'm really happy you were able to get it to Steam! The time manipulation mechanics and such are really cool (I love time manipulation abilities in fiction) I can't wait to play it myself!
why not have the music stay consistent if you dont like it backwards? In my opinion if is its worth anything, I like the creepy rewind tones of the music not matching forwards and backwards. Sometimes you have to let things be.
It depends on context. In situations like combat and solving puzzles where you are rewinding a lot in rapid succession I found it really annoying with certain tracks and so for those I want both forwards and backwards to sound the same. In other situations where you rewind for a longer period of time and it doesn't happen super often I would be fine with something like the first track. This is based on what I think the majority of people will end up wanting, but if I get a lot of feedback pointing the opposite direction I would change my approach.
I have grass in some places. Grass has been the most annoying thing about the environment design for me, I always feel like I'm either adding too much or too little. Right now I'm erring on the side of too little because that is a lot easier on performance.
@@stickguy9109 I'm using GPU instancing. Even with that it is noticeably slower (still relatively performant on my GPU, but lower-end GPUs might struggle). I just don't like the way a ton of grass looks and have wasted way too much time trying different grass layouts. I might make a poll showing a few different options to see if I'm just being too picky or if I'm just horrible at placing grass lol
@@BobsMudHut Maybe your grass model is the issue? Mine was just a billboard and I could render tons of grass on my integrated gpu. And the placement was random with some perlin noise applied to it to form clumping I didn't hand place it.
This game is so awesome! Could you think about adding an outline shader to your objects, and also maybe add a dodge roll, lock indicator and maybe some interesting combat moves like ground slam and block. Anyway this vid is great, I have followed you since the start and am so glad your game is turning out so well, good luck with release!
Combat for sure could use a lot more variety of moves. Lock indicator is also a good idea. I'm intending for the boost to function like a dodge roll would, where you can use it to get I-frames and escape enemies.
I wonder if simply using "generic" rewind sound effects might be a less burdensome task so that you don't have to manually review music samples. Zelda:Tears of the Kingdom doesn't feel the need to play sounds in reverse, yet their team of game designers are always paying attention to the utmost of detail in their designs. They use clock-ticks and various electronic sounds to indicate time is going backwards. They also pause the music and gray out the environment during this time. I guess that's kind of maybe a sore suggestion, given how clearly inspired by BotW/TotK this game clearly is. I understand the need to distinguish, especially since you're wearing the hat of the artist in this work too.
Haven't played ToTK yet (don't have a switch), but I'll take a look at how they handle it. I think I prefer the extra immersion the music reversing brings though. Not every track of music necessarily needs to sound good reversed. For example, I don't think the player will need to reverse time very often when in villages or other isolated points of interest so its not very important there. But for things like combat, traversing between different islands, and puzzles there will be a lot of rewinding so I need to keep the possibility of music being reversed in mind there.
I’ve been here since the beginning and I’m so excited with the progress the game has been taking! Also you should totally check out Acerola! He has tons of videos on improving performance with tons of grass, shaders, and lighting effects. His videos are super informative and he shares how to do everything and provides tools he creates himself!
At first glance it may seem that in February your water intake is the lowest but considering that February is the shortest month you are actually at a higher intake per day (68.8 oz) compared to your actual lowest month in December per day (64.4 oz) but one also must consider the usual lower climate which would cause you to sweat less and therefore retain more water in your body during colder times comparatively. HOWEVER considering the recommended water intake for an adult male is at 125 oz a day, you didn't even meet half of that on your worst month and some may not even consider your best month of april (87.1 oz) to have even scraped the goal of 125 oz. None of this is grim as the average person only consumes about 8 cups (64 oz) of water so you ARE achieving an above average score albeit if you were at the recommended water intake level there could be debate on whether or not you've been operating at half optimized performance levels and could have achieved double your progress had you fueled your body appropriately. Everything aside, the game is looking great, I remember your first video had so much potential and keep working to improve on it!
This is the kind of detailed analysis I come to the comments to see. I do wonder what data the recommended water amount is based on. I doubt drinking half the recommended amount makes you half as performant.
Of course not half, also other liquid beverages have water in them, even if they aren't as pure as water they still have hydration properties which you probably excluded from your calculations.
Helpful suggestion 1. Learn how to use godot, not for any particular reason. 2. If you plan to add a sound effect that plays when swapping between options please dont make it trigger when you mouse over the option and also give the player the ability to turn off that sound affect. I personally suffer from sensitivities around noises in a certain pitch range and I know others do as well whilst its not like debilitating without an option to turn that sound off I tend to stop playing the game entirely or in short bursts. For example Apex Legends their UI sound its like someone's pounding a nail into my forehead for me and it plays when u do damn near anything in that game lol.
Godot looks like it has a bright future, but I don't think its quite there yet (especially for 3D). Once this game is done I'll definitely be taking a closer look at it. I didn't think about adding a volume control for UI sounds but it should be pretty easy to add, thanks for the feedback!
@@BobsMudHut Godot is definitely weaker with 3D than Unity or Unreal, but this game isn't exactly living on the cutting-edge of graphical prowess. Of course, that's not to say Godot isn't lacking in other areas as well, but I feel like Godot's renderer is already more than enough for most indie 3D games, especially if you're willing to live with the slightly unstable Godot 4.
@@GoldenBeholden Even if Godot was fully feature equivalent to Unity I wouldn't port this game over to it. Animations and models probably wouldn't be too hard but I'm using a lot of Unity-specific code and assets. Recreating all of it in Godot would likely take 6 months to a year and even then development would still be slower since I'm not familiar with Godot.
I'm sticking with Unity, the game is using a lot of Unity systems that would be a pain to port and with their recent backpedaling Unity's terms are still better than Epic's (for now, at least). Depending on their future actions my next game may or may not be made with Unity.
did you do change the effects from the fans? I remember if you used to look at them from anywhere for a long time then if you reverse it’d lag the game
Not yet, other demo stuff is taking a priority now. For the initial demo I'm just going to make it so the fan particles don't rewind. Going to get around to fixing it at some point though.
When the game runs in the Unity editor it has some pretty bad lag spikes (but luckily not in the built player). That might be what you are noticing. When playing with normal FPS (60+) the rewind is smooth.
@@AllExistenceMakes sense. The grapple animation is on my list of "things to improve whenever I get around to the list of things to improve" . I made it by cutting out a few frames of a mixamo animation so its not very smooth. The grapple also appears abruptly. Are there any other animations you feel are too snappy? My perception is that everything is fairly smooth with the lone exception of the grapple.
I'm going to have a Mac build eventually for the demo but it will probably be after the Windows version is done. It's possible I'll have the Mac build ready for the first playtest but I'm anticipating there will be too many issues I'll need to work through first. If the build is fast and easy I'll do it, but if the build process is as painful as I remember from the last time I did it 3-4 years ago I would rather fix the bugs in the Windows version before making constant builds for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Once I do that I'll have a better idea on if I can commit to supporting a Mac version for the final game or not.
Yeah when the game runs in the Unity editor it has some pretty bad lag spikes. Luckily on the built game those seem to not be a problem, lowest the FPS gets is in the 70s, and it averages 100+.
I'm going to have a Mac build eventually for the demo but it will probably be after the Windows version is done. It's possible I'll have the Mac build ready for the first playtest but I'm anticipating there will be too many issues I'll need to work through first. If the build is fast and easy I'll do it, but if the build process is as painful as I remember from the last time I did it 3-4 years ago I would rather fix the bugs in the Windows version before making constant builds for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Once I do that I'll have a better idea on if I can commit to supporting a Mac version for the final game.
Wishlist Eyewinder on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/2590690/Eyewinder/?YTComment
The main reason I started this channel was to get feedback on the game, so I'm looking forward to finishing the demo and hearing from you all after you get to play it. The past year has been great and I'm looking forward to seeing where this project goes over the course of the next year!
I especially enjoyed all of the suggestions on how to deal with rewinding long running particle systems on the last devlog. I haven't worked any more on that yet because I've been prioritizing features that are must-have for the demo, but whenever I get back around to working on it the first thing I'm doing is going through all of those comments again.
If I don't get in... I'm not going to be happy...
@@cooltrashgamer Everyone is going to get in (eventually)
@@BobsMudHut I hope you pick me this game is so fucking cool. Gj man I couldn't ever dream of making a game, regardless of it's quality and I greatly respect all devs.
hey, this is just my opinion, but bob might seem some brighter clothes if you are still doing the cell shading. It is hard to pick up the details in his character because there isn’t much contrast
Man, i remember when the first video came out. So happy to see how much it developed!
Same
another day one-er?
Congrats on one year love the progress can’t wait for it to come out, and play test. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the demo being out too. Although after all the bug reports I will probably end up getting I might not be as enthused lol
I've been here since the start, i watched the 1st vid on the first day it came out! shared it with all my friends and we are all super hyped abt it! keep up the great work! (btw, if u streamed you making the game I would 100% watch :) lol)
Appreciate the kind words! Videos have taken a backseat the last 6 months because I've been focusing on finishing the demo but it's close to being done. You are probably going to have to wait awhile for the full game though :)
great video, congrats on graduation, 2:28 great ad section, hilarious unity battle pass meme lol
Loved the comedy bit with my emotes😂! BUT I HAVE TO ASK, did you notice the "sus" text on the bottom right "deadpan" emote??? Not sure if you kept it intentionally or not, it's funny regardless
On another note, loved the game updates. Hyped for the quest system especially. AND THAT HUGE FLYING MOB WILL BE MY BRAINROT FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS I SWEAR
I didn't notice it until I had it super zoomed in when editing, but thought it was a great addition and saw no need to remove it :)
I wish u well on ur development journey, would definitely play in the future.
Wow! I can't believe a year passed already, I remember watching the first video the day it came out and this year has gone by so fast
cant wait for the final game!
Tears of the kingdom be shaking right now
add a marker to the enemy that will be attacked when you attack 4:12
Congratulations on getting your game on steam
I actually liked that first soundtrack being reversed it actually gave the entire reverse time effect
Yeah there is some benefit to the reversal of music being more noticeable. For some tracks I think it would be the right fit. I don't know if it comes across as well in the video, but at least for me when playing the game with certain tracks the reversal got annoying after awhile, especially after rewinding a bunch of separate times in succession. So I'm aiming for most of the ambient music that plays in combat/wilderness/puzzles to not be very noticeably reversed. But you still might hear something like the first track for a special gameplay moment or in certain locations where you probably aren't going to be rewinding time very much.
Reminds me of Miner Ultra Adventures 2.
4:36 Yeah the sun is a light source and they dont cast shadows
Congrats man!
samn, a year has passed already? i remember watching the first vids when they came out, and i absolutely love seeing this project and its community grow!
omg YESSSS!!!!!!!
I kinda forgot about this whole thing, but it's cool to see how much progress you've made since the last time I saw it. Wishlisted it. :)
literly just hit the bell one day ago, wisest decision of me life
I agree!
Loved watching the devlogs for this, and I'm really happy you were able to get it to Steam! The time manipulation mechanics and such are really cool (I love time manipulation abilities in fiction) I can't wait to play it myself!
Dani should take notes
why not have the music stay consistent if you dont like it backwards? In my opinion if is its worth anything, I like the creepy rewind tones of the music not matching forwards and backwards. Sometimes you have to let things be.
It depends on context. In situations like combat and solving puzzles where you are rewinding a lot in rapid succession I found it really annoying with certain tracks and so for those I want both forwards and backwards to sound the same. In other situations where you rewind for a longer period of time and it doesn't happen super often I would be fine with something like the first track. This is based on what I think the majority of people will end up wanting, but if I get a lot of feedback pointing the opposite direction I would change my approach.
Man... it's been a year since that first video came out? Time be going by wayyyy to fast.
I shall wish list it as soon is I get back home
oh man added to wishlist and requested a play test! im so exited!
Appreciate it!
Masters degree and you can't even do basic audio balancing on your video. Wild!
Didn't get it in audio lol. If you have any resources on how to do a better job of it you could share with me I'd love to learn!
Just requested access and wishlisted :D
You should add grass I think 🤔, it would be a great addons because the environment seems very empty at this time I think 🤷♂️
I have grass in some places. Grass has been the most annoying thing about the environment design for me, I always feel like I'm either adding too much or too little. Right now I'm erring on the side of too little because that is a lot easier on performance.
@@BobsMudHut Ok nice, keep going 👍
@@BobsMudHut Use gpu instancing if you aren't already. Will increase the performance by a lot and allow you to have more grass
@@stickguy9109 I'm using GPU instancing. Even with that it is noticeably slower (still relatively performant on my GPU, but lower-end GPUs might struggle). I just don't like the way a ton of grass looks and have wasted way too much time trying different grass layouts. I might make a poll showing a few different options to see if I'm just being too picky or if I'm just horrible at placing grass lol
@@BobsMudHut Maybe your grass model is the issue? Mine was just a billboard and I could render tons of grass on my integrated gpu. And the placement was random with some perlin noise applied to it to form clumping I didn't hand place it.
This game is so awesome! Could you think about adding an outline shader to your objects, and also maybe add a dodge roll, lock indicator and maybe some interesting combat moves like ground slam and block. Anyway this vid is great, I have followed you since the start and am so glad your game is turning out so well, good luck with release!
Combat for sure could use a lot more variety of moves. Lock indicator is also a good idea. I'm intending for the boost to function like a dodge roll would, where you can use it to get I-frames and escape enemies.
No way it's been a year already
Been here since the first video 😆
Very nice. Keep up the good work!
I missed the devlogs, great work!
Yay! New bob content!
Very happy to see another upload from you.
The game looks really cool and cute! Will definitely play this when it comes out!
finally was scared that u discontinued the project
i am so getting this game
Wow my mind was blown when you said you listen to music forward and backwards! What a cool outcome from a cool game mechanic!!
CONGRAGULATIONSS...
Can't wait to play, good luck!
Epic gamer
Wow It's Been a Year Already, This is Crazy!
Yeah, feels more like a few months...
I wonder if simply using "generic" rewind sound effects might be a less burdensome task so that you don't have to manually review music samples. Zelda:Tears of the Kingdom doesn't feel the need to play sounds in reverse, yet their team of game designers are always paying attention to the utmost of detail in their designs. They use clock-ticks and various electronic sounds to indicate time is going backwards. They also pause the music and gray out the environment during this time. I guess that's kind of maybe a sore suggestion, given how clearly inspired by BotW/TotK this game clearly is. I understand the need to distinguish, especially since you're wearing the hat of the artist in this work too.
Haven't played ToTK yet (don't have a switch), but I'll take a look at how they handle it. I think I prefer the extra immersion the music reversing brings though. Not every track of music necessarily needs to sound good reversed. For example, I don't think the player will need to reverse time very often when in villages or other isolated points of interest so its not very important there. But for things like combat, traversing between different islands, and puzzles there will be a lot of rewinding so I need to keep the possibility of music being reversed in mind there.
man i watched the first video, forgot about you, and then found this one. Really cool to see all that has happened!
Your game is so cool! Looking to play the demo
aww i was really hoping i would be the first to comment, but yay more bob! concrats on the graduation btw
Thanks! Maybe you'll be first on the next devlog.
To think, an entire game was developed inside of a mud hut.
Congrats man!
I’ve been here since the beginning and I’m so excited with the progress the game has been taking!
Also you should totally check out Acerola! He has tons of videos on improving performance with tons of grass, shaders, and lighting effects. His videos are super informative and he shares how to do everything and provides tools he creates himself!
Thanks for being along for the ride. I've been watching Acerola for a while. Always entertaining and informative!
I was here
Me too
@@BobsMudHut no way really?
crazy to think its been a year
keep it up :)
I remember when I saw the first video I’ve been so excited to follow the progress of this game
Wonder to see how far its all come, I look forward to the finished game
At first glance it may seem that in February your water intake is the lowest but considering that February is the shortest month you are actually at a higher intake per day (68.8 oz) compared to your actual lowest month in December per day (64.4 oz) but one also must consider the usual lower climate which would cause you to sweat less and therefore retain more water in your body during colder times comparatively. HOWEVER considering the recommended water intake for an adult male is at 125 oz a day, you didn't even meet half of that on your worst month and some may not even consider your best month of april (87.1 oz) to have even scraped the goal of 125 oz.
None of this is grim as the average person only consumes about 8 cups (64 oz) of water so you ARE achieving an above average score albeit if you were at the recommended water intake level there could be debate on whether or not you've been operating at half optimized performance levels and could have achieved double your progress had you fueled your body appropriately.
Everything aside, the game is looking great, I remember your first video had so much potential and keep working to improve on it!
This is the kind of detailed analysis I come to the comments to see. I do wonder what data the recommended water amount is based on. I doubt drinking half the recommended amount makes you half as performant.
Of course not half, also other liquid beverages have water in them, even if they aren't as pure as water they still have hydration properties which you probably excluded from your calculations.
Cant wait to play the demo!
Helpful suggestion
1. Learn how to use godot, not for any particular reason.
2. If you plan to add a sound effect that plays when swapping between options please dont make it trigger when you mouse over the option and also give the player the ability to turn off that sound affect. I personally suffer from sensitivities around noises in a certain pitch range and I know others do as well whilst its not like debilitating without an option to turn that sound off I tend to stop playing the game entirely or in short bursts. For example Apex Legends their UI sound its like someone's pounding a nail into my forehead for me and it plays when u do damn near anything in that game lol.
Godot looks like it has a bright future, but I don't think its quite there yet (especially for 3D). Once this game is done I'll definitely be taking a closer look at it. I didn't think about adding a volume control for UI sounds but it should be pretty easy to add, thanks for the feedback!
@@BobsMudHut Godot is definitely weaker with 3D than Unity or Unreal, but this game isn't exactly living on the cutting-edge of graphical prowess. Of course, that's not to say Godot isn't lacking in other areas as well, but I feel like Godot's renderer is already more than enough for most indie 3D games, especially if you're willing to live with the slightly unstable Godot 4.
@@GoldenBeholden Even if Godot was fully feature equivalent to Unity I wouldn't port this game over to it. Animations and models probably wouldn't be too hard but I'm using a lot of Unity-specific code and assets. Recreating all of it in Godot would likely take 6 months to a year and even then development would still be slower since I'm not familiar with Godot.
will you still use unity with was been going on or go to unreal???
setting menu looks cool btw
I'm sticking with Unity, the game is using a lot of Unity systems that would be a pain to port and with their recent backpedaling Unity's terms are still better than Epic's (for now, at least). Depending on their future actions my next game may or may not be made with Unity.
did you do change the effects from the fans? I remember if you used to look at them from anywhere for a long time then if you reverse it’d lag the game
Not yet, other demo stuff is taking a priority now. For the initial demo I'm just going to make it so the fan particles don't rewind. Going to get around to fixing it at some point though.
wheres the next devlog?? i cant find it...
You need to add some lerping, constant snapping of motions is hard to look at, feels like PC is lagging.
When the game runs in the Unity editor it has some pretty bad lag spikes (but luckily not in the built player). That might be what you are noticing. When playing with normal FPS (60+) the rewind is smooth.
@@BobsMudHut Nah, i mean snapping between animations, like when he using chain and stuff.
@@AllExistenceMakes sense. The grapple animation is on my list of "things to improve whenever I get around to the list of things to improve" . I made it by cutting out a few frames of a mixamo animation so its not very smooth. The grapple also appears abruptly. Are there any other animations you feel are too snappy? My perception is that everything is fairly smooth with the lone exception of the grapple.
Why NPCs have no reaction whatsoever to a guy with a giant eyeball for a head?!..
So wanna give us a new devolog
Eventually, probably still a ways away. I've been focusing on finishing the demo which should be available in the next month or so.
what happened
yipee
please make sure there is a Mac version so I can play
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what's the job that you got? (if you are ok with saying)? just curious
Fairly typical webdev job, not as exciting as gamedev but the pay is better and there is less competition...
haha I get it, cool!@@BobsMudHut
Is the game going to be on macbook in the future?
I'm going to have a Mac build eventually for the demo but it will probably be after the Windows version is done. It's possible I'll have the Mac build ready for the first playtest but I'm anticipating there will be too many issues I'll need to work through first. If the build is fast and easy I'll do it, but if the build process is as painful as I remember from the last time I did it 3-4 years ago I would rather fix the bugs in the Windows version before making constant builds for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Once I do that I'll have a better idea on if I can commit to supporting a Mac version for the final game or not.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo......
Nice game Daddy 🥵
YESSSSSSSS
Who are you ?
why is time ;-;
Damn dude the framerate is dying
Yeah when the game runs in the Unity editor it has some pretty bad lag spikes. Luckily on the built game those seem to not be a problem, lowest the FPS gets is in the 70s, and it averages 100+.
les go
Why is this not on Mac. YOU CAN EXPORT TO MAC ON UNITY!!!
I'm going to have a Mac build eventually for the demo but it will probably be after the Windows version is done. It's possible I'll have the Mac build ready for the first playtest but I'm anticipating there will be too many issues I'll need to work through first. If the build is fast and easy I'll do it, but if the build process is as painful as I remember from the last time I did it 3-4 years ago I would rather fix the bugs in the Windows version before making constant builds for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Once I do that I'll have a better idea on if I can commit to supporting a Mac version for the final game.
@@BobsMudHut Thanks!
Take your time no pressure
IM SO SORRY lol. Unity....
Hmmmm
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All your missing is be on meta quest muhahahahaha if you actually listen to me you got at least 1 more year