that middle pedal around your feet level is a brake pedal, it's really useful, it makes your car brake (slow down) so you can handle the cornering much better... try it for yourself man :)
"The paddle shifters on the t300 feel more realistic." I hope for everyone on the roads sake that you haven't driven a car with paddle shifters to know that.😂
Most normal car pedal shifters are more plastic then the sim racing wheel versions. I am a mechanic, I know.also if they would shift realistic like a normal road car people wouldn't be happy. Sim wheels shift better/faster.
Some pointers you might have missed out: 1. The loud clucking sound when the force feedback kicks in for G29 2. The bad Logitech GHUB software 3. The loud fan that activates after 20-30 minutes of play for Thrustmaster T300RS
Imho this comparison is not quite fair. I mean they are not that similar in price. You can get G29 for 205 GBP along with 3 pedals setup, for another 30 GBP you can get shifter. And for 235 pounds you are full set. Meanwhile the price of T300RS just starts at 267 pounds. You want clutch pedal? You should get GT Edition than, that's 311 pounds. You want shifter? That's another 116 pounds for you. So we have 235 GBP vs 427 GBP. I'd say that's a pretty reasonable difference in price. I know that T300 has higher overall quality, but it comes with higher price. So I think it's not really fair to say that they are in the same price range.
You can get the Logitech set now for 200gbp and the thrust master is now above 300gbp and the clutch is nearing 400gbp. The shifter is almost 200 so it's now 200vs600
I ended up going for the G29 personally. While the TM does have better build quality to the wheel, the pedals remind me a lot of the pedals on my old DFGT and that was the thing I hated the most about that wheel. Where as the G29's are pretty good and already come with a clutch pedal so you just need to buy the shifter which don't cost much now anyway. with the T300 on the other hand you need better pedals if you want the shifter, which already costs more than the Logitech version, with that in mind I came to the conclusion your better off ignoring the T300 and considering the vastly superior T500 or saving quite a lot of money and going for the G29. The G29 is more than enough wheel for me. I mostly play racing games for the experience, and quite a bit of the truck sims too. If I was massively serious about it though, I would just get a T500, .
2 bits of misinformation in this video. For one, the Thrustmaster, NOT the Logitech is more powerful. The Thrustmaster puts out a significant amount of more torque, and its far smoother in its FFB delivery because it's not using helical gears like the Logitech is. Second, the Thrustmaster is not louder by any means. The thrustmaster makes hardly any noise while you're using it other than a cooling fan which isn't always on. The Logitech on the other hand makes a ton of noise while turning just like with the G27 and DFGT. The T300 gives you a significantly higher end force feedback delivery system and it's a much more substantial product. The Logitech feels like a plastic toy in comparison. Plus, the steering rotation button on the thrustmaster really comes in handy all the time, depending on what you're driving and what support the game has. Some games don't have options to change steering rotation, and the T300 is a lifesaver in those situations and it's just a better all around wheel to start and with better options for upgrading in the future. I have no idea why Logitech is charging $400 for the G29 because it's nothing but a reskinned G27 and it's not worth $300.
Hugo Stiglitz reading your opinion really helps me decide. I can watch videos all day and i know that one f the manufacturers are paying the UA-camr. With comments in the thread, i feel i get better info. Much more honest. Thank You.😎
Drezzy G.F.T.P i am wheelless at the moment. I have never used a wheel for gaming/sim racing so im ignorant to the quality and cost. It helps me to read opinions of people like you who are not making videos for a company or product. I feel that i get a much more honest opinion.
GT Nismo For a first time wheel definitely get the T300. Well worth the cost. Better force feedback, and you get the option to upgrade to the Ferrari rim or Sparco rim. Plus the thrustmaster shifter is miles better than the Logitech one.
John M thats great. Thank you for your feedback. One of the best parts of your info is that if i want to ill be able to "upgrade" it. What is your take on pedals? I feel that it's probably a good idea to spend a little more for a really good set. Im pretty gentle with my controllers and other things like that. However, i dont want it to break if i happen to put too much pressure unintentionally. Again, thank you so much for your feedback. Its better than listening to someone being paid by the manufacturer.
I had a G25 which broke on me within 2 years and now finally invested in the Thrustmaster ecosystem. The T300 is way more quite than the G25 when it is in operation, not counting the exhaust fan which kicks in after some use. Also, the T300 is way smoother and the force feedback just feels that much more refined. And as said in the video: it just has a more quality feel to it. I was lucky enough to have the extra cash to fork over to get the T3PA-Pro pedals and TH8A shifter. I'm loving every bit of it. Cheers!
Logitech gives you so many bonuses that make it more reasonable for the beginner. The pedals rock and you can get the base set with the shifter for the same price as the base Thustmaster. I love the G29 as a beginner. That said if you take your game to the next level neither one of these options is going to be adequate. You are going to want more force feedback - and that is going to cost you some cash. So for the purpose of figuring things out, you're going to want to go with the G29 as a means to determine your level of commitment.
Level of commitment is a huge factor. G29/920 are amazing for all around capabilities. If this becomes your hobby, just go fanatec in 6 months of addiction.
Best comment and truest. Get a G29 or G920 determine if you see going to stick with sim racing then go for a DD wheel in the future after you save some Bucks..
I have not too many issues with sound. I own the DFGT and the sound doesn't bother me but then again different people are bothered by different things so I shouldn't really be saying anything
Bloody hell ... How can you talk about realistic fealings man? You are no even able to keep racing line ... i am not expecting proper driver techniques, which you are not using bytheway, but if you want to talk about realistic driving you should realy improve your driving skills first ... i dont trust anything you saying about those wheels apart of moment youve talked about materials used and better grip on leather G29
Bro, just a tip for sim racing. Try your best to keep your hands positioned at 9 and 3 and turn with your hands planted at those positions until you have to let go. Check out some videos of other sim drivers and even pro racers they do not let go of the wheel. Try it out, it's a much better experience :) Great video, keep it up! Cheers! :)
@@Lm10goatt because i am a logitech user to. The logitech wheel like the g29 is all gear driven meaning its very very “notchy” when driving with force feedback. The thrustmaster is belt driven so it is alot smoother especially in high speed, high tension corners where you need precision.
Cully to me AMS is awesome for some of its more niche and diverse content (V10 formula cars for example) but i feel it falls a bit graphically. and while the thing that matters most is physics. I find that some immersion is lost due to the graphics. i also found the menus to not be as intuitive as AC. its not really going to affect how I feel about actually playing but its still a part of the package that could be better.
T300 seems to be a better wheel, but the amount of cases of its reliability issues is really putting me off. Moreover, being both also ps3 compatible, the g29 supports more games since it acts as DFGT in ps3 environment, while there are not so many ps3 games you can play with T300, or at least, not as much as in the case of g29. If i were a PC gamer and thrusmaster was more reliable, it would surely by my wheel of choice, But G29 seems to be more consoles friendly :))
Its been 5 years i hope you are so much better at driving coz if you are going to review on wheels you have to back it up with driving this is just funny :D
Thrustmaster's modular wheel and pedal capabilities elevates it over the Logitech in my opinion, and once Thrustmaster launch the separate base,That will open a variety of setup personalization, I will have mine soon.
if you wanna review a gaming steering, play games like assetto corsa, iRacing or rFactor 2, switch off all the assist and go. you gonna feel the different and your review will change
My guess is the game will notndo somenofnthe droving for him or you in this case and give you a more contrasting experience between the two, they feel similar simply because assists are on, if all assists are off, you cam't use clutch and gear shifter in the thrust master however wiyh the lgitech you have to buy a gear shift er alongside the paddle.
Brett Perry well, depending on the game you are gonna play, if you switch on the assist on, it doesnt even matter what kinda sterring wheel you are using you are not gonna feel any different, heck you can even play using a controller and still race with like with no accident at all, unless you are very bad at playing games. If you switch of all the asisst off though, things r gonna change quite drastically, you are prone to oversteer a lot but with a good wheel that has a good FFB you kinda " know/feel " the car and you can react/counter steer better, or prevent it from oversteering in the first place. And logitech paddle feels like it has weight when you push it. Like break for instant, since bith of the paddle in the video is very good, you can control you breaking power better, so that you wont lock your tires since ABS is off. you can search simracekairu in UA-cam, he is , to me, the best sim racer in UA-cam. you can watch his video.
I use Logitech G29 myself with Project Cars on PS4 and have tested it also on PC with DiRT Rally. its very comfortable once you got gloves on for better touch. i approve it and have had it now bit over 6months.
It seems to me that the G29 has a few more buttons for mapping. The dial can be used for brake balance, and I see that it also has the +/- buttons too. In Project Cars, that can actually be used to move the seat back and forth. I think when it's time for me to purchase, I'll go with the G29. The extra buttons and the pedal set has me sold.
+Joseph Halliday You were sold on the inferior wheel base, because of things that can be upgraded. You can't upgrade the wheel base, but you can upgrade the pedals.
4:36 you don't have to guess your way to it? it's says in the details of the wheels, and your wrong too... the T300RS is much more powerfull than the G29
Regarding the pedals is very misleading. The T300 has different packages with different wheels, pedal configs etc. It's around 300 euros for a T300rs +three pedals.
I have a G27 I'd like to use as I try my way into the Sim Racing world before I buy anything more expensive, what games still work with the Logitech G27?
i have an t500.. and motor are MUCH MORE strong.. ( ps: i have a g27 too.. ) in fact.. t500 is a HIGHER quality and simulation feels real.. g27 /29 are different.. sounds like a "toy"... in front off t500..
If you could tell me, atm in one store there is g29 on 50% sale. Would you recommend that wheel for someone who is just starting into sim racing like F1 just because of the price?
+Calculated Risk Wheels are pretty even but the difference between pedals is so damn big. TS just ruins the whole package with shitty pedals without a clutch (you cant play without a clutch, it just has to be there for iracing etc., who plays arcade games with a wheel anyway?). Weak show Thrustmaster.
@@v1nigra3 Not that deep lol, I just want something a realistic as possible but still in a reasonable price range. I've accepted that the wheel without the shifter will cost $400 dollars, so which do I get for that price?
Your best bet is a thrustmaster setup, with just a base for each console. the bases are available alone for $250. Other than that, you're looking at about $1k for what you want.
Excellent review. I’ve already had a t300 and now I have a g29. As a matter of fact I consider both quite similar each other . T300 is great but considering the price, in my opinion G29 wins because has a closer response to t300 with a very lower price. Anyway, is a matter of choice. Which one has his own option and I respect. Take care to everyone and I wish a lot of fun whatever option could be👍
I have to completely disagree here. Thrustmaster is indeed better than the g29 overall but tu get the t300rs with the upgraded pedals and the shifter costs a lot. The g29 still is a great choice and it's way cheaper if you buy it in 2nd hand. The word "knowledge" is very badly used there
Xion, Not at all lol! Went and bought a logitech g920 deal with gearstick for £149.99 and actually prefer it in a way and much more reliable. Rather not spend over £400 for something which might break then will be without for days/weeks. Sending the tx back now
nwarne89 Well i am thinking which i should Buy :/ the Logitech g920 is 250 € here and the t300rs/gte is 280€. It's My First Wheel and i have no idea what to Go with. I heard the Thrustmaster Pedals suck ass but the base is better. Also is there a Loud noise with the Logitech g920 like in yt Videos of the g29? And Where did you find that Deal? I really Need help man i am Not into this Stuff and i don't Know much
Xion Definitely agree with the pedals thrustmaster better Base but still prefer logitech pedals. And everyone says how the gearstick on the logitech feels cheap but think I prefer it slightly over the th8a as I don't keep shifting into 7th instead of 5th lol! The feedback is smoother on the tx though when it doesn't grind like mine. I play AC and don't have it do the knocking noise but it does a little on forza horizon. Found the deal in our local curry's recently.
+spaceweed10 if your looking to get a good all in one wheel package plus buying the extra shifter, its the cheapest deal. if you ever want to swap out the wheel then the thrustmaster is best. But the logitech full package is way cheaper considering that the pedals the thrustmaster comes with need to be changed out. the logitech is also quieter, has more buttons and I have not heard of it breaking down.
When the g29 is set up correct it works great. For the price it's a good starting wheel shifter pedal combo robust and good quality ! Would recommend !
I used to have a Logitech G27 and i got hooked on racing sims! Force feedback and real games like Asseto Corsa and Iracing made this addicting like heroin! That G27 lasted quiet a few years with drifting and good abuse, but i wanted something more realistic. So i got a T300RS like 2 years back during boxing day for a good deal, and it was like upgrading from Toyota Tercel to Mercedes GT. They both do the same thing, but you love the T300 more because it feels more planted, sturdy, comfortable, and realistic, and immersive while the G27 felt like a cheap toy that did its job well. Well 3 months later with my T300RS and it crapped out! During a Drift in Dirt 4 Rally, my wheel started to smoke and smell like burnt plastic coming from the steering wheel base. I read online that it's a common issue with the T300 line, where the Power supply craps out, and sometimes fries the motherboard. And that it's a nightmare to get a refund. Well i learned that the hard way. I emailed Thrustmaster about my issue and it took them 2 weeks to just reply with those automated bot replies. They said they wanted my wheel serial number along with the receipt of purchase. I had the whole damn box and serial number, but no more receipt. I was denied any repair or replacement, after just 3 months of using their shitty product. I eventually gave up chasing to get my wheel fixed. I saw many stories like mine online. How can they make such a shitty unreliable POS that lasts a few weeks,months and sell it? So now i have the pedals, which are still good, and i have the steering wheel RIM itself, so all i need to replace is the T300 Base. I was gonna buy one the other day, then i read a review that this happened to another guy who bought a T300 and it burnt, he bought another base, and a few weeks later, that base burnt too. I don't want to buy another T300 base and have it smoke up in a few weeks or months.
+Hugo Stiglitz Then you are paying out the ass to have a similar experience as the G27/G29. To get a shifter, good pedals you will be paying upwards of $650.
Dogeicken Not true at all. The G29's only advantage is a clutch pedal. That's only $100 extra for the Thrustmaster. The important thing is that no amount of money spent on add ons can give the G29 as good as an experience as the Thrustmaster. The wheel base is the most important, and most expensive component. That's what you should be worried about. Not clutch pedals and gear shifters
+Steve Crumpton My G29 doesn't feel like a toy either. the only bit that did was the dial It feels like It was pulled straight off one of them baby toys which has a dial.
I've been searching the internet and seems that there are a lot malfunction problems with T300RS just after few months. So I'll try to make it clear for everyone about each wheel advantage. Price -> G29 ($200) vs. T300RS ($300) Durability (lifespan) -> G29 (approx. 4 years) vs. T300RS (approx. 1 year, [reason: heats up easily]) Wheel Force Feedback -> T300RS (better FFD + 1080 wheel rotation) vs. G29 (Less precise FFD + 900 wheel rotation) Pedal set -> G29 (Decent pedal set) vs. T300RS (Crappier pedal set over G29) Styling -> T300RS (Looks and feels better in my opinion) vs. G29 (Pretty amazing + cool indicator light [RPM to change gears]) Platforms: Both are compatible on PS4, PS3 and PC (Although G29 indicator lights and clutch won't work on PS3) Bonus: If you are GT Sport player button layout goes in advantage for G29 I almost went with T300RS, but giving extra $100 for wheel that has much malfunction problems after seeing all those online forums and threads. I'll just go with G29 instead, seems like old gear drive technology is more durable then belt driven T300RS.
I had an old Thrustmaster for Ps2 Lol I couldn't play The pedals couldn't stay steady and this was getting it to my nerves So everytime I was going to brake or accelerate the whole pedal base was moving There was no way to *glue* it in order to stay steady
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. For my first racing setup, I'm probably opting for the Logitech G29, stick & pedals for £210. Can always upgrade to Thrustmaster if I get more serious with racing.
@@Damarai_ Well, I as well bought g29+shifter. Been using it for 1 year, its pretty good. Gets the job done, simulates a real steering wheel pretty well. The shifter is very clunky, but is also cheap so its worth getting it too. Overall - 7/10 gets the job done
Great video... I am new into market to get a wheel setup however, I am still not able to make out what and how much to spend. Can there be a clear choice off these two. Thanks
+Cesar Martinez the T300 wheel base is much better with its brushless belt driven ffb meganism, the G29 uses brushed helical gearing which is the same as they used in the G27 and outdated.
The Thrustmaster is definitely a very good wheel, and so is the Logitech G29, but the first time I bought the T300 RS, it broke down within weeks of me using it. I bought a Logitech G29 after I returned the T300, and after a year the G29 still holds up. If you want a more reliable wheel, then the G29 should be your choice.
T300 has better spec, but the g29 is over 100 quid cheaper after a price drop. This puts it in competition with the t150 from a price point. The major difference is i can change rims on the t300, for me that makes it worthwhile.
The alcantara edition is the best option. Bigger wheel plus you get the upgraded pedals. If you can afford it go for this one.In the long run it will save you money.
i own a g29 but the gears are so loud so i have to turn the forcefeed back all te way down other wise its like CluNC, CluNC,CluNC, CluNC broken wrist (sarcasim)
if the gears are super loud that probably means it's clipping and therefore not providing you with reliable information. The g29 is pretty hard to set up right but once it's set up properly you'd be surprised at how good it feels.
I see you're using the H-shifter from the g27 with the g29. Does everything work then? All the buttons, the shifter it self and is it compatible with the new logitech gaming software?
Who needs brakes when you have other cars right?
haha cars4walls4dayz
+Nicholas Hatala shots fired
+Nicholas Hatala Just look at his form at 4:20. He can't be into sim racing, drives like asian women.
+Nicholas Hatala Yeah, he can just remap the brake to the clutch problem solved :D
+leksasdf you know every assist is on
This guy would fit right in on GTA Online racing
Lmaoo
the real racing sim king gta 5
@@RabbitConfirmed the sad part is that GTA has better car customisation than almost every racing game I've ever played.
@@Joe-hl2ts lol is it good?
@@RabbitConfirmed yeah the customisation is great
Which wheel is best for ramming? I see you're an expert!
+pumpkineater23 yeah... i was confused how they judged the racing feel when they're driving like this
+pumpkineater23 kkkkk I was thinking the same thing
+pumpkineater23 No need to compare the pedals as only one pedal was used for the review and it wasn't the brake.
+Glen 0 hahahaha
Probably learned to drive in an italian city. I don't think anyone owns a dent free car in that country.
When there are three pedals, the brakes are in the middle, hope that helps with the ramming!😂
3:14 there is no way I will slow :D
3:14 this guy is a forza player
And soooo
HXNIF 4LI clearly you don’t play Forza.
@@lordjoemott1683 I play Forza and that's all people do. Ram
transparent trash and that’s why I’ve stopped playing Forza as much.
@@lordjoemott1683 I have to get a group of players I know to race with so they don't ram.
that middle pedal around your feet level is a brake pedal, it's really useful, it makes your car brake (slow down) so you can handle the cornering much better... try it for yourself man :)
😂
The driving in this vid tho LUL
Ikr
Job Antonis i
Worst driver ever :D
Pro 👌👌👏👏
the video is not about his driving, its about his opinion and feedback on both Wheels,.
You'd think that maybe he'd use gameplay clips where he isn't crashing into things constantly.
So ... basically clips where the car doesn't move? :-)
"The paddle shifters on the t300 feel more realistic."
I hope for everyone on the roads sake that you haven't driven a car with paddle shifters to know that.😂
a lot of supercars have it, so what's your point even...
@@DnBDubstepManiak1 I haven't felt switches like those on the T300 in any sports car I have ever been in.
@@DnBDubstepManiak1 his point is the dude can't drive,and the guy commented he hopes he didn't drive a supercar with paddle shifters.
@Minecraft TV But not a supercar with paddle shifters. Everybody has hopped in his mom's car once, but your mom owns no damn Aston Martin Vanquish.
Most normal car pedal shifters are more plastic then the sim racing wheel versions. I am a mechanic, I know.also if they would shift realistic like a normal road car people wouldn't be happy. Sim wheels shift better/faster.
please fix your hands on the steering wheel, your driving is painful to watch lol
lmao drives like my grandma
Sinisteo Soxilano if ur grandma drives like him how is she still alive
the video is not about his driving, its about his opinion and feedback on both Wheels,.
He is using a 9 3 position this is actually the preferred position for race car drivers because you can control the car better compared to 10 2
Lol ikr
2:03 shifting in fast and furious
Dee Duncker this is genius
Its too slow for dom
20th gear
Brodzone I love how 4 years later new people are still coming to this video.
Did you check the Force feedback settings on controller divice manager? The t300rs is substantially more powerfull.
Yep, It has 75% by default. 100% is pretty strong. Soft lock i definitely stronger on T300 then on G29.
on PS4?
Yeah that shit can throw you across the room haha
Truck simulator?
Big RIGGS!
hahahahahahahaha
ATS AND ETS2
Can your truck simulator go faster than light? I don't think so.
BIG
RIGS
BIGGGG MUTHAF*CKN RIGGGGGGS!
Some pointers you might have missed out:
1. The loud clucking sound when the force feedback kicks in for G29
2. The bad Logitech GHUB software
3. The loud fan that activates after 20-30 minutes of play for Thrustmaster T300RS
Imho this comparison is not quite fair. I mean they are not that similar in price. You can get G29 for 205 GBP along with 3 pedals setup, for another 30 GBP you can get shifter. And for 235 pounds you are full set. Meanwhile the price of T300RS just starts at 267 pounds. You want clutch pedal? You should get GT Edition than, that's 311 pounds. You want shifter? That's another 116 pounds for you. So we have 235 GBP vs 427 GBP. I'd say that's a pretty reasonable difference in price. I know that T300 has higher overall quality, but it comes with higher price. So I think it's not really fair to say that they are in the same price range.
You can get the Logitech set now for 200gbp and the thrust master is now above 300gbp and the clutch is nearing 400gbp. The shifter is almost 200 so it's now 200vs600
@Jakub Liberadzki well ur an idiot
has all the tech...
less skill than the guy who shot harambe
If thrustmaster build a more affordable shifter, they will have an easier time competing with the g29, but 150$ for a shifter? Noo thanks.
and have it with the package
yea but the logitech shifter is absolut shit, so rather expensive shifter than shitty shifter
for poor everything is expensive. XD
I ended up going for the G29 personally. While the TM does have better build quality to the wheel, the pedals remind me a lot of the pedals on my old DFGT and that was the thing I hated the most about that wheel. Where as the G29's are pretty good and already come with a clutch pedal so you just need to buy the shifter which don't cost much now anyway. with the T300 on the other hand you need better pedals if you want the shifter, which already costs more than the Logitech version, with that in mind I came to the conclusion your better off ignoring the T300 and considering the vastly superior T500 or saving quite a lot of money and going for the G29. The G29 is more than enough wheel for me. I mostly play racing games for the experience, and quite a bit of the truck sims too. If I was massively serious about it though, I would just get a T500, .
4:37 "I actually think that the motors of the G29 are a little bit more powerful" This made your entire review drop down in quality.
He IS entitled to his opinion. Or are you a Democrat?
Hans Schtuk ha
if a reviewer couldn't even tell the difference cant be that significant
Hans Schtuk there cant be opinions, its facts
@@talon1706 what? Why you gotta bring politics into a simracing argument? What the fuck dude, you're just asking for an argument.
2 bits of misinformation in this video. For one, the Thrustmaster, NOT the Logitech is more powerful. The Thrustmaster puts out a significant amount of more torque, and its far smoother in its FFB delivery because it's not using helical gears like the Logitech is.
Second, the Thrustmaster is not louder by any means. The thrustmaster makes hardly any noise while you're using it other than a cooling fan which isn't always on. The Logitech on the other hand makes a ton of noise while turning just like with the G27 and DFGT.
The T300 gives you a significantly higher end force feedback delivery system and it's a much more substantial product. The Logitech feels like a plastic toy in comparison. Plus, the steering rotation button on the thrustmaster really comes in handy all the time, depending on what you're driving and what support the game has. Some games don't have options to change steering rotation, and the T300 is a lifesaver in those situations and it's just a better all around wheel to start and with better options for upgrading in the future.
I have no idea why Logitech is charging $400 for the G29 because it's nothing but a reskinned G27 and it's not worth $300.
Hugo Stiglitz reading your opinion really helps me decide. I can watch videos all day and i know that one f the manufacturers are paying the UA-camr. With comments in the thread, i feel i get better info. Much more honest. Thank You.😎
Hugo Stiglitz actually the thrustmaster is more expensive than the g29
Drezzy G.F.T.P i am wheelless at the moment. I have never used a wheel for gaming/sim racing so im ignorant to the quality and cost. It helps me to read opinions of people like you who are not making videos for a company or product. I feel that i get a much more honest opinion.
GT Nismo For a first time wheel definitely get the T300. Well worth the cost. Better force feedback, and you get the option to upgrade to the Ferrari rim or Sparco rim. Plus the thrustmaster shifter is miles better than the Logitech one.
John M thats great. Thank you for your feedback. One of the best parts of your info is that if i want to ill be able to "upgrade" it. What is your take on pedals? I feel that it's probably a good idea to spend a little more for a really good set. Im pretty gentle with my controllers and other things like that. However, i dont want it to break if i happen to put too much pressure unintentionally. Again, thank you so much for your feedback. Its better than listening to someone being paid by the manufacturer.
I had a G25 which broke on me within 2 years and now finally invested in the Thrustmaster ecosystem. The T300 is way more quite than the G25 when it is in operation, not counting the exhaust fan which kicks in after some use. Also, the T300 is way smoother and the force feedback just feels that much more refined. And as said in the video: it just has a more quality feel to it. I was lucky enough to have the extra cash to fork over to get the T3PA-Pro pedals and TH8A shifter. I'm loving every bit of it. Cheers!
How's it doing after 4 years? {if you haven't changed to a different setup.)
Why do people have such a hard time spelling "quiet"?
"a little bit"
cloudy
"In terms of"
definitely.
Logitech gives you so many bonuses that make it more reasonable for the beginner. The pedals rock and you can get the base set with the shifter for the same price as the base Thustmaster. I love the G29 as a beginner. That said if you take your game to the next level neither one of these options is going to be adequate. You are going to want more force feedback - and that is going to cost you some cash. So for the purpose of figuring things out, you're going to want to go with the G29 as a means to determine your level of commitment.
Level of commitment is a huge factor. G29/920 are amazing for all around capabilities. If this becomes your hobby, just go fanatec in 6 months of addiction.
I honestly had one and ended up returning it because... something broke.
Best comment and truest. Get a G29 or G920 determine if you see going to stick with sim racing then go for a DD wheel in the future after you save some Bucks..
well, thrustmaster t300 has DOUBLE the tourque of a g29 so
You forgot about the T300 GT edition that comes with the three-pedal box
I'm VERY late but the Alcantara edition also comes with 3 pedals.
@@Jordan-xx9ux it is the same as GT edition just has a Ferrari wheel design.
well both of them are WAY quieter than the driving force gt lol
Hahhahah yeh😂
Mitchy Moo still using the Driving Force GT and switching soon to the t300rs Integral edition because I hate that Logitech gear drive
Leon Lange the g29 is really bad anyway evdn though this is old
Mitchy DFGT is quite silent imo outside middle zone where rattling happens
I have not too many issues with sound. I own the DFGT and the sound doesn't bother me but then again different people are bothered by different things so I shouldn't really be saying anything
Bloody hell ... How can you talk about realistic fealings man? You are no even able to keep racing line ... i am not expecting proper driver techniques, which you are not using bytheway, but if you want to talk about realistic driving you should realy improve your driving skills first ... i dont trust anything you saying about those wheels apart of moment youve talked about materials used and better grip on leather G29
This is the worst sim racing review I have ever seen.
its because its not a sim racing review
Laborn
It is a sim racing review. It is a review of sim racing products.
+krampus_ its true thats its a review of sim racing products.
wrong.
Dasilva LaSanta
How so?
he even dont play good ... how he can review products like this ...
Maybe you should buy both and give us a good review???
asandrius86 at least he can speak
thats what i thought^^ but hes playing pcars...so no surprise^^
Abhinav Singh Thakur LOL I thought the same 😂😂😂
You know that most of gamers aren't "race car driver" ?
Bro, just a tip for sim racing. Try your best to keep your hands positioned at 9 and 3 and turn with your hands planted at those positions until you have to let go. Check out some videos of other sim drivers and even pro racers they do not let go of the wheel. Try it out, it's a much better experience :)
Great video, keep it up! Cheers! :)
3:14
Such a realistic game xD
Yeah the driving is also superb
ROFL 😂😂😂
Two other advantages of the g29 are the native ability to remap everything and the customer support (Logitech has great customer support).
This guy was eating words like hell I MEAN COME ON SPEAK A BIT SLOWER XD
I had to keep skipping ahead. Great video man, but please try to annunciate your words - slow down =)
Zoya Aamir i had it fine, i guess if your english is not as refined you dont get all the words.
McMuffinFluffin well english is not my main language i guess thats the prob
and he says "uh" before everyword... though he has gotten better at speaking lately.
Talk quietly dumb fuck
g29 user here i really wish i went for a t300 now
Why?
@@Lm10goatt because i am a logitech user to. The logitech wheel like the g29 is all gear driven meaning its very very “notchy” when driving with force feedback. The thrustmaster is belt driven so it is alot smoother especially in high speed, high tension corners where you need precision.
PCARS = the worst game to review FFB wheels with.
YES! had he used something like Assetto Corsa he would have noticed the T300 is much more detailed and precise to the point where its no comparison..
AC is great but the best has to be Automobilista.
Cully to me AMS is awesome for some of its more niche and diverse content (V10 formula cars for example) but i feel it falls a bit graphically. and while the thing that matters most is physics. I find that some immersion is lost due to the graphics. i also found the menus to not be as intuitive as AC. its not really going to affect how I feel about actually playing but its still a part of the package that could be better.
Grid autosport is worst.
@@homestyle2000 RF is the best for physics
T300 seems to be a better wheel, but the amount of cases of its reliability issues is really putting me off. Moreover, being both also ps3 compatible, the g29 supports more games since it acts as DFGT in ps3 environment, while there are not so many ps3 games you can play with T300, or at least, not as much as in the case of g29. If i were a PC gamer and thrusmaster was more reliable, it would surely by my wheel of choice, But G29 seems to be more consoles friendly :))
Its been 5 years i hope you are so much better at driving coz if you are going to review on wheels you have to back it up with driving this is just funny :D
Thrustmaster's modular wheel and pedal capabilities elevates it over the Logitech in my opinion, and once Thrustmaster launch the separate base,That will open a variety of setup personalization, I will have mine soon.
Jeez. What a beautiful setup, wasted on a bad game and driver.
:))))))
I know right? Dude has triples and is playing project cars 2 and is a god awful driver
@@mason.n3259 it's project cars 1, which i find is better in term of realism than 2 but damn, he's using the other drivers as brakes
3:14 When you trying to conserve your brakes and use other cars to slow yourself down
they both cost more than my actual steering wheel
Mohammed Al-Sayed but not ur car
if you wanna review a gaming steering, play games like assetto corsa, iRacing or rFactor 2, switch off all the assist and go.
you gonna feel the different and your review will change
Can you elaborate on how it'll change? Just curious since I'm looking to buy one.
My guess is the game will notndo somenofnthe droving for him or you in this case and give you a more contrasting experience between the two, they feel similar simply because assists are on, if all assists are off, you cam't use clutch and gear shifter in the thrust master however wiyh the lgitech you have to buy a gear shift er alongside the paddle.
Brett Perry well, depending on the game you are gonna play, if you switch on the assist on, it doesnt even matter what kinda sterring wheel you are using you are not gonna feel any different, heck you can even play using a controller and still race with like with no accident at all, unless you are very bad at playing games. If you switch of all the asisst off though, things r gonna change quite drastically, you are prone to oversteer a lot but with a good wheel that has a good FFB you kinda " know/feel " the car and you can react/counter steer better, or prevent it from oversteering in the first place. And logitech paddle feels like it has weight when you push it. Like break for instant, since bith of the paddle in the video is very good, you can control you breaking power better, so that you wont lock your tires since ABS is off. you can search simracekairu in UA-cam, he is , to me, the best sim racer in UA-cam. you can watch his video.
***** yeah , but he can uses cars that doesnt require clutch, like cars that uses paddle shift right?
Kuro Senpai precisely.
He is Maldonado but a “sim racer”
I use Logitech G29 myself with Project Cars on PS4 and have tested it also on PC with DiRT Rally. its very comfortable once you got gloves on for better touch. i approve it and have had it now bit over 6months.
why is half the info in this video about the bases incorrect? g29 has weaker motor, which is pretty important to know
It seems to me that the G29 has a few more buttons for mapping. The dial can be used for brake balance, and I see that it also has the +/- buttons too. In Project Cars, that can actually be used to move the seat back and forth. I think when it's time for me to purchase, I'll go with the G29. The extra buttons and the pedal set has me sold.
+Joseph Halliday You were sold on the inferior wheel base, because of things that can be upgraded. You can't upgrade the wheel base, but you can upgrade the pedals.
4:36 you don't have to guess your way to it? it's says in the details of the wheels, and your wrong too... the T300RS is much more powerfull than the G29
Regarding the pedals is very misleading.
The T300 has different packages with different wheels, pedal configs etc.
It's around 300 euros for a T300rs +three pedals.
And the g29 under 200 i had mine 160 euros
@@enai-lo Yeagh I found mine for 265 + F1 2019 pre order and H shifter
To you which is the best
why you have not synchronized screen hands and your hands ? its like 500 ping :/
Looking at your driving skill, I struggle to take your review serious.
no one:
The one guy in the online lobby:
I bought the T300RS after watching this video. Thank you for good review.
hahaahhahahhahhahahahah .........nice joke
I have a G27 I'd like to use as I try my way into the Sim Racing world before I buy anything more expensive, what games still work with the Logitech G27?
Which wheel is best logitech g29 or thrustmaster t300rs comment me
WHEN YOU HAVE THE MONEY,EVERYTHING IS GOOD
i have an t500.. and motor are MUCH MORE strong.. ( ps: i have a g27 too.. ) in fact.. t500 is a HIGHER quality and simulation feels real.. g27 /29 are different.. sounds like a "toy"... in front off t500..
I have g27 end t300gto Ferrari whith t500 Pedals end Price its 300sfr g29 500sfr t300 its 1 mile batter forcefidback to .
If you could tell me, atm in one store there is g29 on 50% sale. Would you recommend that wheel for someone who is just starting into sim racing like F1 just because of the price?
@@19toxzeR97 no. Get the T300RS GT (240 at B&H website) and buy the Ferrari F1 rim
@@spaceman-pe5je I already bought G29 and I'm happy with it
Review doesn't look very credible, Thrustmaster even with high damage rate looks definitely better.
G29/920 is just a facelifted G27.
The g27 is a quality steering wheel
+Cameron Kinkade Definitely. But the Thrustmaster seems to be a premium steering wheel, bridging the gap between the G27 and Fanatec price points.
+Calculated Risk Wheels are pretty even but the difference between pedals is so damn big. TS just ruins the whole package with shitty pedals without a clutch (you cant play without a clutch, it just has to be there for iracing etc., who plays arcade games with a wheel anyway?). Weak show Thrustmaster.
+mambafication even?? hahaha what? the t300rs is wayy more advanced than the g29
tomás menezes Yeah you can stay in your arcade games with your "advanced" -there is no clutch package, have fun and a happy new year!
Which wheel feels real. I had a g27 and it had. A dead spot is this the same with the g29 or should i get the thrustmaster t300rs ?
These are not even in the same bracket the Thrustmaster tmx pro is the g29’s natural competitor so bit of a pointless review tbh.
can you do a T150 vs T300 comparison?
They should!
Unless you're confined to PS3/4 Go with the TX.
Unless you're confined to PS3/4 Go with the TX.
Dat driving skills!!!!
How a guy that he can't drive make a wheel review?
7:42 rip that Guys in the game
Levi
what sound system are you using ? I like the look of those speakers
so my desk is around 5cm thick. will i be able to mount it?
I’ve used both and 100% get the T300RS for the more realistic feel
Is the T300RS better than the G23?
@@boredfive3001 the T300RS is the best for its range
@@v1nigra3 What does that mean? I should get the thrusrmaster 300 over the G23?
@@boredfive3001 yes...If you have deep pockets you should look into direct drive wheels as well
@@v1nigra3 Not that deep lol, I just want something a realistic as possible but still in a reasonable price range. I've accepted that the wheel without the shifter will cost $400 dollars, so which do I get for that price?
3:13 so I'm guessing neither of these wheels will make me a better driver
I need one to that works across all platforms. Any suggestions?
Racing Wheel
Pedals
Gear Shift
All 3 have to to be compatible with each other.
I don't think that one exists
Your best bet is a thrustmaster setup, with just a base for each console. the bases are available alone for $250. Other than that, you're looking at about $1k for what you want.
Ithink the fanatec csr or csr elite works on all platforms
+NigelFC the fanatec is not really compatible with anything but the pc
You're best off getting a T300 and then a TXR base.
Excellent review. I’ve already had a t300 and now I have a g29. As a matter of fact I consider both quite similar each other . T300 is great but considering the price, in my opinion G29 wins because has a closer response to t300 with a very lower price. Anyway, is a matter of choice. Which one has his own option and I respect. Take care to everyone and I wish a lot of fun whatever option could be👍
speakers aren't designed to be placed on their sides. You can flip them upside-down but not on the side
Let's be clear the person who is a big fan of brandings goes for Logitech
But the person with big knowledge goes with thrustmaster.....
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I have to completely disagree here. Thrustmaster is indeed better than the g29 overall but tu get the t300rs with the upgraded pedals and the shifter costs a lot. The g29 still is a great choice and it's way cheaper if you buy it in 2nd hand. The word "knowledge" is very badly used there
T300 alcantara edition + th8a + fanatec handbrake, and you are set forever!
Until it breaks like my 3 day old thrustmaster leather edition just has!
nwarne89 LMFAO. Would you recommend Thrustmaster at all?
Xion, Not at all lol! Went and bought a logitech g920 deal with gearstick for £149.99 and actually prefer it in a way and much more reliable. Rather not spend over £400 for something which might break then will be without for days/weeks. Sending the tx back now
nwarne89 Well i am thinking which i should Buy :/ the Logitech g920 is 250 € here and the t300rs/gte is 280€. It's My First Wheel and i have no idea what to Go with. I heard the Thrustmaster Pedals suck ass but the base is better. Also is there a Loud noise with the Logitech g920 like in yt Videos of the g29? And Where did you find that Deal? I really Need help man i am Not into this Stuff and i don't Know much
Xion Definitely agree with the pedals thrustmaster better Base but still prefer logitech pedals. And everyone says how the gearstick on the logitech feels cheap but think I prefer it slightly over the th8a as I don't keep shifting into 7th instead of 5th lol!
The feedback is smoother on the tx though when it doesn't grind like mine. I play AC and don't have it do the knocking noise but it does a little on forza horizon. Found the deal in our local curry's recently.
need it for mid town madness
lmao now I really wanna find that game again.
Whats should i do??? I bought a t300rs but it broke down now I can chose beetween both but which one?
ok
where did u brought the driving force G29
G29 is more quiet?!
*Everyone* says the opposite 😲
It's everything but quiet...
For this price point it looks like logitech wins.
+MrGhost370 no the g27 is way more expensive rn
You are clearly a fucking idiot.
+spaceweed10 if your looking to get a good all in one wheel package plus buying the extra shifter, its the cheapest deal. if you ever want to swap out the wheel then the thrustmaster is best. But the logitech full package is way cheaper considering that the pedals the thrustmaster comes with need to be changed out. the logitech is also quieter, has more buttons and I have not heard of it breaking down.
i still had a TON of problems with the floppy pedals on the g29, literally broken on every wheel i got so far (rma'd 2 times .-.)
Neyen, then u sir ARE THE PROBLEM
Dying to have one of theses babies...
Did you ever get it?
Did you get one yet bro
Nope 😭
Sad
When the g29 is set up correct it works great. For the price it's a good starting wheel shifter pedal combo robust and good quality ! Would recommend !
The rubber thing is not to make the pedal quitter, that way they should have put one in all 3 pedals. It's to simulate a load cell.
I used to have a Logitech G27 and i got hooked on racing sims! Force feedback and real games like Asseto Corsa and Iracing made this addicting like heroin! That G27 lasted quiet a few years with drifting and good abuse, but i wanted something more realistic. So i got a T300RS like 2 years back during boxing day for a good deal, and it was like upgrading from Toyota Tercel to Mercedes GT. They both do the same thing, but you love the T300 more because it feels more planted, sturdy, comfortable, and realistic, and immersive while the G27 felt like a cheap toy that did its job well. Well 3 months later with my T300RS and it crapped out! During a Drift in Dirt 4 Rally, my wheel started to smoke and smell like burnt plastic coming from the steering wheel base.
I read online that it's a common issue with the T300 line, where the Power supply craps out, and sometimes fries the motherboard. And that it's a nightmare to get a refund. Well i learned that the hard way. I emailed Thrustmaster about my issue and it took them 2 weeks to just reply with those automated bot replies. They said they wanted my wheel serial number along with the receipt of purchase. I had the whole damn box and serial number, but no more receipt. I was denied any repair or replacement, after just 3 months of using their shitty product. I eventually gave up chasing to get my wheel fixed. I saw many stories like mine online. How can they make such a shitty unreliable POS that lasts a few weeks,months and sell it?
So now i have the pedals, which are still good, and i have the steering wheel RIM itself, so all i need to replace is the T300 Base. I was gonna buy one the other day, then i read a review that this happened to another guy who bought a T300 and it burnt, he bought another base, and a few weeks later, that base burnt too. I don't want to buy another T300 base and have it smoke up in a few weeks or months.
G27 is good enough for me.
The thrustmaster kinda looks cheap
nazhif1 Looks can be deceiving. The logitech feels like a toy, the thrustmaster feels like a real piece of equipment.
+Hugo Stiglitz Then you are paying out the ass to have a similar experience as the G27/G29. To get a shifter, good pedals you will be paying upwards of $650.
Dogeicken Not true at all. The G29's only advantage is a clutch pedal. That's only $100 extra for the Thrustmaster.
The important thing is that no amount of money spent on add ons can give the G29 as good as an experience as the Thrustmaster.
The wheel base is the most important, and most expensive component. That's what you should be worried about. Not clutch pedals and gear shifters
+Hugo Stiglitz I own a t300.. I fully agree with u.. it does not feel like a toy at all.. best thing I've ever brought.
+Steve Crumpton My G29 doesn't feel like a toy either.
the only bit that did was the dial It feels like It was pulled straight off one of them baby toys which has a dial.
I've been searching the internet and seems that there are a lot malfunction problems with T300RS just after few months. So I'll try to make it clear for everyone about each wheel advantage.
Price -> G29 ($200) vs. T300RS ($300)
Durability (lifespan) -> G29 (approx. 4 years) vs. T300RS (approx. 1 year, [reason: heats up easily])
Wheel Force Feedback -> T300RS (better FFD + 1080 wheel rotation) vs. G29 (Less precise FFD + 900 wheel rotation)
Pedal set -> G29 (Decent pedal set) vs. T300RS (Crappier pedal set over G29)
Styling -> T300RS (Looks and feels better in my opinion) vs. G29 (Pretty amazing + cool indicator light [RPM to change gears])
Platforms: Both are compatible on PS4, PS3 and PC (Although G29 indicator lights and clutch won't work on PS3)
Bonus: If you are GT Sport player button layout goes in advantage for G29
I almost went with T300RS, but giving extra $100 for wheel that has much malfunction problems after seeing all those online forums and threads. I'll just go with G29 instead, seems like old gear drive technology is more durable then belt driven T300RS.
And what you can say about g29 after those time?
What kind of speakers are you using in this video?
the t300 actually has 50% stronger force feedback. i think it's something like 4.5 nm on the g29 and 6.5 on the thurstmaster.
2.1 on the g29 and 3.9 on the t300rs
I had an old Thrustmaster for Ps2
Lol I couldn't play
The pedals couldn't stay steady and this was getting it to my nerves
So everytime I was going to brake or accelerate the whole pedal base was moving
There was no way to *glue* it in order to stay steady
i have the t300rs and nothing changes....are worst now
i put 2 10 lbs weights on mine works fine
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. For my first racing setup, I'm probably opting for the Logitech G29, stick & pedals for £210. Can always upgrade to Thrustmaster if I get more serious with racing.
How'd it go?
Lol, FUCK THE EU!
@@nothislike diikkkkkppk;k;ojphoyfuy what?
@@nothislike How’d it go?
@@Damarai_ Well, I as well bought g29+shifter. Been using it for 1 year, its pretty good. Gets the job done, simulates a real steering wheel pretty well. The shifter is very clunky, but is also cheap so its worth getting it too. Overall - 7/10 gets the job done
wich 1 is better for drifting?
Sebastiaan Smit
Idk
Great video... I am new into market to get a wheel setup however, I am still not able to make out what and how much to spend.
Can there be a clear choice off these two. Thanks
The price breach is huge, so, I'd prefer million of times the logitech g29. Thrustmaster has too many problems in my view.
The T300 is miles better than the G29.
+Gabriel Mauricio you can upgrade then
+Gabriel Mauricio if you already have a Logitech wheel then yes, but T3PA is even better ;)
+Cesar Martinez the T300 wheel base is much better with its brushless belt driven ffb meganism, the G29 uses brushed helical gearing which is the same as they used in the G27 and outdated.
+Cesar Martinez I think the mechanism is the most important thing of the entire wheel :P
The Thrustmaster is definitely a very good wheel, and so is the Logitech G29, but the first time I bought the T300 RS, it broke down within weeks of me using it. I bought a Logitech G29 after I returned the T300, and after a year the G29 still holds up. If you want a more reliable wheel, then the G29 should be your choice.
T300 has better spec, but the g29 is over 100 quid cheaper after a price drop. This puts it in competition with the t150 from a price point. The major difference is i can change rims on the t300, for me that makes it worthwhile.
aces 1982 so should i buy the t300
aces 1982 alcantara edition
The alcantara edition is the best option. Bigger wheel plus you get the upgraded pedals. If you can afford it go for this one.In the long run it will save you money.
Thank you so yeah i think also its worth the 80 dollar extra!:)
aces 1982 the pedals are in the alcantara set even more sensitive!
All i want to know is, is g29 good? When it comes to drifting?
I bought a t300rs second hand and it came with a wheel without paddle shifters. Is that a problem. Will a wheel with shifters be cheap?
i own a g29 but the gears are so loud so i have to turn the forcefeed back all te way down other wise its like
CluNC, CluNC,CluNC, CluNC
broken wrist
(sarcasim)
if the gears are super loud that probably means it's clipping and therefore not providing you with reliable information. The g29 is pretty hard to set up right but once it's set up properly you'd be surprised at how good it feels.
Does this work for farming simulator
Carroll vlogs yes and truck simulator(ets2, ats)
😂 what did he say? I was too busy laughing at the driving.
I see you're using the H-shifter from the g27 with the g29. Does everything work then? All the buttons, the shifter it self and is it compatible with the new logitech gaming software?
How can you say that the G29 isn't that loud? The cogs are like a machinegun when driving rally.