Team grease here. Quieter the better and for whatever reason, I believe it will improve the longevity. Maybe it’s because it’s thicker and with load and heat it seems like it would provide more lubricity or maybe because it would keep water out better. Not sure, but I also like it quieter. Thanks for the video. I found it interesting.
My hub being louder helps with the hikers. Ever since the covid-19 situation we’ve been having a lot of them lately. Noble wheels actually stated that oil doesn’t change the longevity of the hub. Yes you’re right about being better for water but here in southern cali we don’t have much rain. Thanks for watching bro 🤙🏼 :47 ua-cam.com/video/dy95hS33WqA/v-deo.html
@@CalaveraChronicles yup, I grew up in North County SD and know about it being dry more often than not. In fact, I usually just dust off my bike and sponge bathe it with a rag instead of using the hose. It helps all the parts last longer if you can get them clean without water. I do however have to disagree with you about using your free hub to warn hikers that you’re coming. They often don’t hear freehub sounds (even I9’s!) and are startled. I started using this a few years back and have been praised and thanked by hundreds (yes 100s!) of trail users, including other riders, for using it to warn them I’m coming. ua-cam.com/video/FTApUZY0YJE/v-deo.html
Yeah that’s a local company I see them all the time. I sometimes listen to music on the wAy down too. You haven’t had any issues with the timber? My friends busted after a week but they took care of him super quick!
@@CalaveraChronicles it actually just broke last week after 3 years. The string that held ball inside the bell broke. I need to email them and ask if I can repair it myself. For $20, I got my money’s worth for sure!
@@CalaveraChronicles hello man great video I have hope pro 4 hubs I wanna put some Oil like you did but I only have muc off dry lube ceramic one is it ok ? To Use it
grease is not good it makes the pulls stick most of the time so they don’t engage proper and can sometimes cause the hub to skip. Hub oil all the way 😂
The wrong grease can do that... Decent freehub grease can and does work just fine & dampens the sound (thankfully). ua-cam.com/video/dy95hS33WqA/v-deo.html
I had got the reserve 30 with i9 hydra hubs and replaced the Abec bearings with ceramic bearings and definitely made a difference and that’s with stock grease definitely want to try the oil thanks for the time of posting this video!
I have a set of Enduro 305s with the hydra hubs on order. Probably still 2-3months out but slightly concerned with how the drag of the I9s will feel on trail compared to my stock DTswiss M1700 wheels. Did the spin test as you did and they went a full 30 seconds longer at 1:35
The spin test is just for fun I’m sure there’s way more factors that should be considered. Like how they perform under load. I don’t feel like they coast any longer or shorter than my previous wheels they just feel really good while pedaling. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
Not assuming anything, but the op said in one the responses that he torqued his wheel to 15nm each time. Before reading that, I wondered about it, since he didn't mention it in the video. I imagine wheel torque could have an impact on the spin test, as will the weight of the rotating assembly, and to some extent the aerodynamics of spokes and tire knobs. P.S. I just did the spin test on my Hydra's with extra grease, leaving the brake caliper on (I don't think it rubs at all) and got 50 seconds of spin.
So many factors to Consider. Temperature, Wind, torque on axle bearings, weight on rim/tire, speed if the wheel. Even his comparison isn't exactly scientific, but good enough to get an idea. Don't worry about it, I just got my i9, and have to say I was running 120 click noas before, I even preferred them for a couple of reasons. And they were ALOT cheaper. I9 hydra are sick hubs but tbh anything more than 100 clicks will do perfectly fine.
I agree! It was just for fun. But I do gotta say that the 690 POE has come in handy on super tech stuff where you just need that extra push with the least amount of pedal stroke.
I’ve used Dumond Tech chain oil but never messed hub oil. My Hadley hubs use zero weight grease but I’m not sure what my Hope hubs or White Industry hubs use. My only concern with using oil in the free hub would be that it would need to be monitored to make sure it doesn’t dry out.
Fit couple in the Philippines I have a couple of friends that have been running that for awhile with no issues. I also feel that the seal does a great job in keeping the oil in place. We’ll see what happens in the long run. The oil is recommended by i9 as well.
Calavera Chronicles I9 hubs are amazing and I’m sure that they will do fine. I’m really hard on my Hadley’s since I mash on them with my SS mountain bikes. The Hadley SS hubs have been completely overhauled with new bearings,seals and paws a couple of times but I have had them for 5 and 10 years (2 versions) I haven’t had the Hope SS/Trials hub pulled apart and serviced yet, they’re only 2 years old.
What color is the stock grease? I just bought a bike sith hydras and it had a greenish grease in it. I want to make sure I am not ruining a expensive hub by using the wrong grease.
That's interesting. I wanted to quiet my I-9 Torch, because when I coast, the noise is picked up by my Go Pro. I used Shimano Dura Ace grease, and it's substantially quieter, and the grease will slow down wear, but in terms of resistance to spinning, the grease looks to offer the most resistance. Hey, but that's okay! Thanks for the video.
I want to do this, add oil. So I remove all grease from the inside race and add just a few dabs of oil to the paws, that's it? How often should I re oil?
I just oiled my Hydra hub after taking all the factory grease out. And it became TOTALLY SILENT. I am not sure what the hell, but it is completely silent now, I am actually worried ...
@@CalaveraChronicles yep, completely clean... then applied oil... and it became silent after the first ride.... it is literally like a silent hub now :O .. maybe I put too much oil !? ... it works fine, no skips, but the buzz is gone
@@CalaveraChronicles Onyx is I9 or a different company? Also, I saw your video on the Wheelset you bought. Was that $760 for the set or individually? Thanks
@@NDemanuele1 onyx is a different company. It was a full wheel set(front and rear) but the prices went since parts cost more now. I don’t know how much they cost now but you can take a peek at spokex.com
I just had new bearings put in my Hydra's (after only a year! Paid extra for higher quality bearings hoping for more longevity) I asked the mechanic to wipe out the grease and add oil to make it louder - but I think he misunderstood me, because it is now maybe 25% as loud as it was. So, yes, add grease and it will be much quieter.
Does this dumonde tech oil will work to other brands of hubs like koozer hubs? Performance wise? Will increase the sounds a lilttle bit? Thanks for your response
Wiping some of the grease off with a rag does not constitute “dry” in my book. I know this was just for fun but I don’t think you can learn much by an experiment like this. Still it was fun and I enjoyed watching.
@@waltercastillo7121 for what it’s worth, mine do sound louder on camera than they are in person, must be a mic sensitivity that enhances the sound, but I wouldn’t expect them to be really loud. For comparison, I used to run dt swiss 240s and that was louder than my current hydra running on oil.
No BS, straight to the point, great video, thanks my dude
Team grease here. Quieter the better and for whatever reason, I believe it will improve the longevity. Maybe it’s because it’s thicker and with load and heat it seems like it would provide more lubricity or maybe because it would keep water out better. Not sure, but I also like it quieter. Thanks for the video. I found it interesting.
My hub being louder helps with the hikers. Ever since the covid-19 situation we’ve been having a lot of them lately. Noble wheels actually stated that oil doesn’t change the longevity of the hub. Yes you’re right about being better for water but here in southern cali we don’t have much rain. Thanks for watching bro 🤙🏼
:47
ua-cam.com/video/dy95hS33WqA/v-deo.html
@@CalaveraChronicles yup, I grew up in North County SD and know about it being dry more often than not. In fact, I usually just dust off my bike and sponge bathe it with a rag instead of using the hose. It helps all the parts last longer if you can get them clean without water. I do however have to disagree with you about using your free hub to warn hikers that you’re coming. They often don’t hear freehub sounds (even I9’s!) and are startled. I started using this a few years back and have been praised and thanked by hundreds (yes 100s!) of trail users, including other riders, for using it to warn them I’m coming.
ua-cam.com/video/FTApUZY0YJE/v-deo.html
Yeah that’s a local company I see them all the time. I sometimes listen to music on the wAy down too. You haven’t had any issues with the timber? My friends busted after a week but they took care of him super quick!
@@CalaveraChronicles it actually just broke last week after 3 years. The string that held ball inside the bell broke. I need to email them and ask if I can repair it myself. For $20, I got my money’s worth for sure!
@@CalaveraChronicles hello man great video I have hope pro 4 hubs I wanna put some
Oil like you did but I only have muc off dry lube ceramic one is it ok
? To
Use it
Thanks bro for this. Just received my hydras and I think i'm gonna run the oil :)
Same!!
I got the oil version. I don’t need a bell to warn people that the screaming banshee is coming their way.
grease is not good it makes the pulls stick most of the time so they don’t engage proper and can sometimes cause the hub to skip. Hub oil all the way 😂
The wrong grease can do that... Decent freehub grease can and does work just fine & dampens the sound (thankfully). ua-cam.com/video/dy95hS33WqA/v-deo.html
I had got the reserve 30 with i9 hydra hubs and replaced the Abec bearings with ceramic bearings and definitely made a difference and that’s with stock grease definitely want to try the oil thanks for the time of posting this video!
Oh nice! My bearings are still good and the hub oil seems to be working great!
@@CalaveraChronicles I kept my abecs cause they are good bearings!! How long have you been riding on the bearings you have now?
@user-dw9ss8rh9o now that I look back I want to say I was on them over 2 years.
@@CalaveraChronicles right on!! Thanks for the info and again great video.
Thanks for this test man!
No problems not very scientific but definitely fun to make
I have a set of Enduro 305s with the hydra hubs on order. Probably still 2-3months out but slightly concerned with how the drag of the I9s will feel on trail compared to my stock DTswiss M1700 wheels. Did the spin test as you did and they went a full 30 seconds longer at 1:35
The spin test is just for fun I’m sure there’s way more factors that should be considered. Like how they perform under load. I don’t feel like they coast any longer or shorter than my previous wheels they just feel really good while pedaling. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
Not assuming anything, but the op said in one the responses that he torqued his wheel to 15nm each time. Before reading that, I wondered about it, since he didn't mention it in the video.
I imagine wheel torque could have an impact on the spin test, as will the weight of the rotating assembly, and to some extent the aerodynamics of spokes and tire knobs.
P.S. I just did the spin test on my Hydra's with extra grease, leaving the brake caliper on (I don't think it rubs at all) and got 50 seconds of spin.
So many factors to Consider. Temperature, Wind, torque on axle bearings, weight on rim/tire, speed if the wheel. Even his comparison isn't exactly scientific, but good enough to get an idea. Don't worry about it, I just got my i9, and have to say I was running 120 click noas before, I even preferred them for a couple of reasons. And they were ALOT cheaper. I9 hydra are sick hubs but tbh anything more than 100 clicks will do perfectly fine.
I agree! It was just for fun. But I do gotta say that the 690 POE has come in handy on super tech stuff where you just need that extra push with the least amount of pedal stroke.
I’ve used Dumond Tech chain oil but never messed hub oil. My Hadley hubs use zero weight grease but I’m not sure what my Hope hubs or White Industry hubs use. My only concern with using oil in the free hub would be that it would need to be monitored to make sure it doesn’t dry out.
Fit couple in the Philippines I have a couple of friends that have been running that for awhile with no issues. I also feel that the seal does a great job in keeping the oil in place. We’ll see what happens in the long run. The oil is recommended by i9 as well.
Calavera Chronicles I9 hubs are amazing and I’m sure that they will do fine. I’m really hard on my Hadley’s since I mash on them with my SS mountain bikes. The Hadley SS hubs have been completely overhauled with new bearings,seals and paws a couple of times but I have had them for 5 and 10 years (2 versions) I haven’t had the Hope SS/Trials hub pulled apart and serviced yet, they’re only 2 years old.
Az Lean I’m thinking oil burns but doesn’t dry out?
What color is the stock grease? I just bought a bike sith hydras and it had a greenish grease in it. I want to make sure I am not ruining a expensive hub by using the wrong grease.
That's interesting. I wanted to quiet my I-9 Torch, because when I coast, the noise is picked up by my Go Pro. I used Shimano Dura Ace grease, and it's substantially quieter, and the grease will slow down wear, but in terms of resistance to spinning, the grease looks to offer the most resistance. Hey, but that's okay! Thanks for the video.
I don't have that branded oil, I just use the top1 grease high temp the color blue 🔵 one for my monster gravel...
So ylu did not remove the grease on the pawls? You only remove on the ring and added oil on it right?
I did it on both. But. I didn’t remove the pawls completely
@@CalaveraChronicles for oil, how do you often to put oil? What is the recommended?
I want to do this, add oil. So I remove all grease from the inside race and add just a few dabs of oil to the paws, that's it? How often should I re oil?
I removed all grease and just put oil on all moving parts and connecting points. Just make sure to keep oil away from your break rotors.
I say it all depends in how many miles or if you ride in super dusty trails. I usually shoot for every 10-15 rides?
Can you please do a spin test with the axle torqued to spec vs axle loose (
I actually did my test with 15nm of torque and the brake caliper off
I just oiled my Hydra hub after taking all the factory grease out. And it became TOTALLY SILENT. I am not sure what the hell, but it is completely silent now, I am actually worried ...
Did you clean it?
@@CalaveraChronicles yep, completely clean... then applied oil... and it became silent after the first ride.... it is literally like a silent hub now :O ..
maybe I put too much oil !? ...
it works fine, no skips, but the buzz is gone
@@denesk2794 what oil are you using?
I want mine to be more quiet...LOL. I suppose you can't make them permanently quiet?
More grease or switch over to onyx. Lol
@@CalaveraChronicles Onyx is I9 or a different company? Also, I saw your video on the Wheelset you bought. Was that $760 for the set or individually? Thanks
@@NDemanuele1 onyx is a different company. It was a full wheel set(front and rear) but the prices went since parts cost more now. I don’t know how much they cost now but you can take a peek at spokex.com
I just had new bearings put in my Hydra's (after only a year! Paid extra for higher quality bearings hoping for more longevity)
I asked the mechanic to wipe out the grease and add oil to make it louder - but I think he misunderstood me, because it is now maybe 25% as loud as it was.
So, yes, add grease and it will be much quieter.
Does this dumonde tech oil will work to other brands of hubs like koozer hubs? Performance wise? Will increase the sounds a lilttle bit? Thanks for your response
I’m not sure if this works on other brands. As far as performance I feel no difference it’s mostly for noise I suppose.
I preferred to put grease for the best sound also
Cool video👌🏻
Thank you it was mostly for fun
Wiping some of the grease off with a rag does not constitute “dry” in my book. I know this was just for fun but I don’t think you can learn much by an experiment like this. Still it was fun and I enjoyed watching.
I have already added dumonde tech freehub oil on mine and still is very quiet.
Did you mean that you switched? Like clean out the grease and then added the oil.
@@CalaveraChronicles yes I wiped off the grease and added oil
@@waltercastillo7121 for what it’s worth, mine do sound louder on camera than they are in person, must be a mic sensitivity that enhances the sound, but I wouldn’t expect them to be really loud. For comparison, I used to run dt swiss 240s and that was louder than my current hydra running on oil.
@@teckademic33 took a few rides for it to break in, now it sounds great and I agree it sounds louder on videos🤙
Lods ok lang kaya ang singer oil wla kase ko mahanap na ganyang oil
hahahahah ikaw lng ata pinoy dito sir , nakita ko sa ibang forum ok daw ung singer oil
Don't!!!! Singer oil is the worst. Better buy what's recommended by i9...
Dumonde tech freehub oil ang recomnended ni i9.
Grease will make it quieter, oil will be louder. Dont run dry.
Absolutely! Just did it for fun
I use oil and grease (dumond tech)...
Grease on the paws and oil just like you did on the o-ring.😃
So far it’s working great!
No issues at all and it’s safe? 🙏
@@CalaveraChronicles combination of grease in the pawls and oil in the o ring is safe and no issues?
@@thebeastmtb ive had no issues so far
@@CalaveraChronicles nice. How often do you put oil?
Dry?😂.
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2:32 their is a thing that called bike Brake. Use it next time not your hand. Ride safe and stay
Haha, in the beginning of the video he says that the calipers are removed btw.