Good job! A couple of comments: - your MnO2 is heavily contaminated with iron (hence the yellowness here and there). To get rid of it, you set your pee-like solution's pH to ~6 IIRC, and start blowing air through it (aquarium pupm is enough). At this pH iron oxidizes to 3+ and precipitates as a hydroxide, the rest stays in solution. To colour shifts from yellow to faint pink, with an orange/brown susension. - the lumps created in a ball mill were due to moisture still present in your pigment. You should have ground it with a mortar, put the coarse powder back again to the oven, dry it properly, and then use ball mill.
I nearly chocked on my food from laughing when you turned on the vacume pump, whilst talking about how much it's been through, and a bunch of powder just shot out of it lmao... too funny.
I love your style of video so much! They always make me happy. That painting at the end is INCREDIBLE! I bet it's so satisfying to see all your work on this end up with a piece of art you can look at every day. :)
Try milling the pigment with an acid functional resin (the acrylic is a good one) dissolved in solvent! it will produce a very fine dispersion that will be 100x better than just mixing them ( source; used to work as inks and coatings chemist).
As an alternative to an acrylic binder, I hear that tempera can be easily made from egg yolk (and a few other ingredients), it being the predominant medium of choice until the Early Renaissance period.
I learned the same lesson, to use a plastic spatula instead of my beloved stainless steel spatula when harvesting manganese dioxide from carbon-zinc batteries. I loved that spatula. 😢
i nominate you to the top10 of youtube chemist accents chemforce and thoisoi are naturally on there as well. if you want to crush up some rock like material you can take a glass bottle with concave bottom, press it down on the target while moving the top of the bottle in a circular motion, this confuses the compound and it turns into a powder always crush it up a bit before trying to dry it out anyhow
For isolation MnO2 from battery paste you can: 1. Wash paste with water and filter it (as you did) 2. Add MnO2/C mixture to H2SO4 solution and then added H2O2 to dissolve MnO2 3. Filter solution from carbon 4. Precipitate Mn(OH)2 using NaOH 5. Add H2O2 to oxidize Mn(OH)2 to MnO2
@@-r-495 In Poland (where this youtuber live), 12% H2O2 and NaOH can be buy without any problem. H2SO4 can be buy as a drain cleaner (it is 95% sulfuric acid) in Internet shops
I love this color! I find it fascinating that this is the only other manganese compound that has a pretty purple besides potassium permanganate. However, the mineral rhodochrosite is made of magnesium carbonate and has a stunning magenta pinkish color. You should make a color chemistry series.
Love the Floating Sieve :) I hold my mini-vortex paint mixer to my version of your separator, I cannot express how satisfying it is to see the gravity filter work that fast.
Not only do you have a very pleasant way of presenting something, you also know how to incorporate extremely funny and amusing moments into your videos. In short, great video as usual. 👍
I always appreciate seeing these green[power], good for the environment projects! Returning batteries to their native habitat, all while making an interesting pigment? Excellent work.
@Amateur Chemistry Another thing to watch out for, is the fact that some zinc-carbon batteries can also have ammonium chloride as the electrolyte and the manganese dioxide may also be contaminated with iron.
You can also precipitate Mn(OH)2 using Naoh then filtering it and leaving it to dry in air, the Mn(OH)2 will convert into Mno2 in air. This method is much safer than producing a ton of chlorine and the final product is also more pure.
It always amazes me how seemingly easy it is to make molecular chlorine. Such a reactive chemical and you can get it just by mixing stuff together or putting electricity in salt water.
Wonderful work here! I wonder how the color and texture would be different if you made the pigment using tetraethylammonium dihydrophosphate instead of the plain ammonium salt :0
Just a small note, I haven't watched the whole thing but heating the MnO2 suspension in the microwave oven somehow makes the particles stick together and making decantation/filtration extremely easy
Y don't you get büchner funnel? they are great for stuff, that fucks up glass frits. Also they are relatively cheap, and IMO even better than glass frits, because you can just dump the content without painful scraping, so you get less losses.
Also, you can maybe try to heat the mamganese dioxide and carbon paste to 500-600°C to oxidise carbon to carbon dioxide. Although the manganese dioxide might also convert to manganese iii oxide... but I guess, it's worth a try!
Amateur Chemistry : The MnO2 paste is so messy and sticks almost to everything and cleaning it is a huge disaster at the mean time (5:11) wearing light gray hoodie and handling the MnO2 paste with additional splashes 😂😂😂
Could you have done this with battery stuff + HCl -> MnCl2, +NaOH -> Mn(OH)2, + (NH4)H2PO4 + H3PO4 -> NH4MnP2O7 ? I'm not sure about that last step, if Mn(OH)2 would work. It feels like just more water would be liberated but I don't know.
for the Vacuum you nee a recirculating venturi pump where there is no metal body to be eaten, you can get glass ones and use a magnetic water pump if desired. For the diammonium phosphate its DAP aka homebrewing nutrient for beer and cider.
Having made this reaction myself for a uni project, I respect all the steps you went though to clean the manganese and pyrifying it by dissolving it with acid. I went by the road of pyrolysing the carbon away. It did sinter the manganese and I spent almost a day to crushing it up finely again. For phosphoric acid a lab mate help extracted some from Coca-Cola as a proof of concept that this pigment could be made from house hold items, the ammonia we got from cleaning chemicals. In the final reaction I used some more acid from the lab store room so we could end up with enough to actually paint with. Mine did ende up more dark purple, possibly due to mixed oxidation states of the pyrolized manganese according to my teacher at the time. We made about 100 gram that was split 3 ways between the lab mate, me and for professor lab collection.
Can you make a short about copper glutamate complex? It has a beautiful blue color! Our professor showed us a demonstration where he mixed a solution of basic copper carbonate and a solution of monosodium glutamate and it turned this deep beautiful blue!
I just want to say I love your videos so much. You're quite funny and your lab work is pretty impressive. I'm definitely looking forward to watch more of your beautiful videos.
@@ingenitussapientia I'd have thought just having large quantities of piranha solution around is enough to be considered dangerous, but perhaps you're braver than me!
@@amritlohia8240 Around? It's not piranha solution until you mix it. And really you shouldn't be doing any kind of chemistry if you are not completely comfortable with the common acids.
Hehe, very nice channel 😅👍 I'm used to make acrylic and watercolour paint from pigments and I even made some prussian blue by myself but I never had the idea to try to make manganese pigments but now I'm really hyped for it 😂 ❤
Use dead batteries, the MnO2 is already converted to Mn(OH)2 and MnO. Use the separator that is present and soak in H2SO4 solution. Alternately mix it up then vacuum filter using a disposable funnel/filter made from an old soda bottle.
My experience with this is that the pigment reaction seems to be pretty sensitive to temperature, I had one result much like yours, and the next one using a slightly lower temp resulted in a much deeper color.
Question: Couldn´t you have used a high temperature furnace to get rid of all the unwanted oily solutions and carbon particles added to the mangenese dioxide and then later purify it more easily ?
Is there something that prevents you from just burning everything in a high oxygen environment? Carbon just disappears as CO2, MgO2 is already oxydized and Zinc I would assume just melts and puddles at the bottom.
Favorite part of the week... when all the chem tubers release their weirdness on the world.
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A much deserve weekend
5:30
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Good job! A couple of comments:
- your MnO2 is heavily contaminated with iron (hence the yellowness here and there). To get rid of it, you set your pee-like solution's pH to ~6 IIRC, and start blowing air through it (aquarium pupm is enough). At this pH iron oxidizes to 3+ and precipitates as a hydroxide, the rest stays in solution. To colour shifts from yellow to faint pink, with an orange/brown susension.
- the lumps created in a ball mill were due to moisture still present in your pigment. You should have ground it with a mortar, put the coarse powder back again to the oven, dry it properly, and then use ball mill.
I nearly chocked on my food from laughing when you turned on the vacume pump, whilst talking about how much it's been through, and a bunch of powder just shot out of it lmao... too funny.
For a new spatula 😅
Thanks!
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Your friend made a gorgeous art piece!
I love your style of video so much! They always make me happy.
That painting at the end is INCREDIBLE! I bet it's so satisfying to see all your work on this end up with a piece of art you can look at every day. :)
Try milling the pigment with an acid functional resin (the acrylic is a good one) dissolved in solvent! it will produce a very fine dispersion that will be 100x better than just mixing them ( source; used to work as inks and coatings chemist).
As an alternative to an acrylic binder, I hear that tempera can be easily made from egg yolk (and a few other ingredients), it being the predominant medium of choice until the Early Renaissance period.
I learned the same lesson, to use a plastic spatula instead of my beloved stainless steel spatula when harvesting manganese dioxide from carbon-zinc batteries.
I loved that spatula. 😢
Weird Al recommended Spatula City for all your spatula needs.
@@aqdrobert "Buy nine spatulas, get the tenth one for just one penny!"
i nominate you to the top10 of youtube chemist accents
chemforce and thoisoi are naturally on there as well.
if you want to crush up some rock like material you can take a glass bottle with concave bottom, press it down on the target while moving the top of the bottle in a circular motion, this confuses the compound and it turns into a powder
always crush it up a bit before trying to dry it out anyhow
For isolation MnO2 from battery paste you can:
1. Wash paste with water and filter it (as you did)
2. Add MnO2/C mixture to H2SO4 solution and then added H2O2 to dissolve MnO2
3. Filter solution from carbon
4. Precipitate Mn(OH)2 using NaOH
5. Add H2O2 to oxidize Mn(OH)2 to MnO2
two reagents you mentioned have been regulated in a crass manner in the EU
@@-r-495 In Poland (where this youtuber live), 12% H2O2 and NaOH can be buy without any problem. H2SO4 can be buy as a drain cleaner (it is 95% sulfuric acid) in Internet shops
You can also produce MnSO4 from MnO2 by reacting with gaseous SO2
I love this color! I find it fascinating that this is the only other manganese compound that has a pretty purple besides potassium permanganate. However, the mineral rhodochrosite is made of magnesium carbonate and has a stunning magenta pinkish color. You should make a color chemistry series.
Shoutout to the Action! Never a true kludge without some of their stuff haha:') Enjoyed the video, thanks!
Ultrasonic cleaners are great for mixing and also separating stuff from paper such as from the tape
20:53 Lol what a quincidence
Love the Floating Sieve :) I hold my mini-vortex paint mixer to my version of your separator, I cannot express how satisfying it is to see the gravity filter work that fast.
Not only do you have a very pleasant way of presenting something, you also know how to incorporate extremely funny and amusing moments into your videos. In short, great video as usual. 👍
I always appreciate seeing these green[power], good for the environment projects! Returning batteries to their native habitat, all while making an interesting pigment? Excellent work.
From a non-science guy I love watching this sort of content, I particularly like your style, keep up the good work!
Perfect as usual
@Amateur Chemistry Another thing to watch out for, is the fact that some zinc-carbon batteries can also have ammonium chloride as the electrolyte and the manganese dioxide may also be contaminated with iron.
A wonderfully shown process !!!
7:07 - guuut nektarine :)))))
KHSO5 can be bought in every hardware store as an oxygen treatment for swimming pools. Sometimes it's also called "pool shocker".
availability of "hardware store" chemicals depends a lot on in which country you live
You can also precipitate Mn(OH)2 using Naoh then filtering it and leaving it to dry in air, the Mn(OH)2 will convert into Mno2 in air. This method is much safer than producing a ton of chlorine and the final product is also more pure.
Also you can add sodium hydroxide to the bleach to reabsorb the chlorine gas and make more hypochlorite
Source?
@@YunxiaoChu I have tried it myself it works very well and the MnO2 is also brown in color i.e. More cleaner product.
Disproportion reaction resulting in NaCl and NaClO.
Awesome video, I have never seen this done before!
It always amazes me how seemingly easy it is to make molecular chlorine. Such a reactive chemical and you can get it just by mixing stuff together or putting electricity in salt water.
Quality is increasing dramatically epic
Mam nadzieję że w wakacje będzie więcej takich fajnych filmików.
Wonderful work here! I wonder how the color and texture would be different if you made the pigment using tetraethylammonium dihydrophosphate instead of the plain ammonium salt :0
Just a small note, I haven't watched the whole thing but heating the MnO2 suspension in the microwave oven somehow makes the particles stick together and making decantation/filtration extremely easy
Greetings from Germany, nice video!
Great idea 👍 Beautiful picture 😍
Y don't you get büchner funnel? they are great for stuff, that fucks up glass frits. Also they are relatively cheap, and IMO even better than glass frits, because you can just dump the content without painful scraping, so you get less losses.
Also, you can maybe try to heat the mamganese dioxide and carbon paste to 500-600°C to oxidise carbon to carbon dioxide. Although the manganese dioxide might also convert to manganese iii oxide... but I guess, it's worth a try!
it looks like nilered's purple gold towards the end. I wonder if it would do anything at all in an alloy
Looks like a beautiful paint. I wonder how stable it is or if it will change colour over time.
Amateur Chemistry : The MnO2 paste is so messy and sticks almost to everything and cleaning it is a huge disaster
at the mean time (5:11) wearing light gray hoodie and handling the MnO2 paste with additional splashes 😂😂😂
I like your sense of humour.
Lesgoo i have been waiting
U got a new handle for U mortor and pestle 🎉
You may have gotten a strangely high yield because of trace metals in the battery that are catalyzing the reaction
17:33 polish phosphoric acid lol
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Could you have done this with battery stuff + HCl -> MnCl2, +NaOH -> Mn(OH)2, + (NH4)H2PO4 + H3PO4 -> NH4MnP2O7 ?
I'm not sure about that last step, if Mn(OH)2 would work. It feels like just more water would be liberated but I don't know.
Thanks for the upload, sir.
for the Vacuum you nee a recirculating venturi pump where there is no metal body to be eaten, you can get glass ones and use a magnetic water pump if desired. For the diammonium phosphate its DAP aka homebrewing nutrient for beer and cider.
ua-cam.com/video/tYLlkTDstmo/v-deo.html Aspirator Vacuum Pump is another name for it, here is a setup explained
This channel is massively underrated
Pink? Batteries? Must be manganese-based.
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18:00 olej kielecki
4:55 hating on EU
I can only guess where are you really from... only guess...
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quick, amateur chemistry posted!
I think Piranha solution would turn all the carbon into CO2, but might be expensive.
Having made this reaction myself for a uni project, I respect all the steps you went though to clean the manganese and pyrifying it by dissolving it with acid.
I went by the road of pyrolysing the carbon away.
It did sinter the manganese and I spent almost a day to crushing it up finely again.
For phosphoric acid a lab mate help extracted some from Coca-Cola as a proof of concept that this pigment could be made from house hold items, the ammonia we got from cleaning chemicals.
In the final reaction I used some more acid from the lab store room so we could end up with enough to actually paint with.
Mine did ende up more dark purple, possibly due to mixed oxidation states of the pyrolized manganese according to my teacher at the time.
We made about 100 gram that was split 3 ways between the lab mate, me and for professor lab collection.
Would adding the battery paste to piranha solution be a way of eliminating the carbon whilst generating manganese sulphate?
Theoretically yes, but it would be dangerous and quite expensive to make such a large quantity of piranha solution.
The MnO2 would make the solution decompose extremely violently.
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Can you make a short about copper glutamate complex? It has a beautiful blue color! Our professor showed us a demonstration where he mixed a solution of basic copper carbonate and a solution of monosodium glutamate and it turned this deep beautiful blue!
this is... amazing?
why tho
great video your the new nile red
Looks like you got a turning table to up the game! Great video👍
absolutely epic
What about creating ferrite cores for transformers from the parts of alcaline/saline batteries?
What's wrong with burning off all the carbon as the first step?
Or piranha solution and turn it all to CO2?
Chem tubers are the only reason i enjoy chemistry now. Keep on keeping on
So.... Paris Green when?
Incredible video
I wonder if you can just heat it up and burn off the carbon
I expect all my Coca Cola to be war Coca Cola from now on
10:52 my favorite unit of measurement is:
metric frickton
I just want to say I love your videos so much. You're quite funny and your lab work is pretty impressive. I'm definitely looking forward to watch more of your beautiful videos.
Why not eliminate the carbon in step 1 with piranha solution?
Presumably it would be too dangerous!
@@amritlohia8240 Dripping it while cooling wouldn't be very dangerous. All that filtering however is most definitely dangerous for his mental health.
@@ingenitussapientia I'd have thought just having large quantities of piranha solution around is enough to be considered dangerous, but perhaps you're braver than me!
@@amritlohia8240 Around? It's not piranha solution until you mix it. And really you shouldn't be doing any kind of chemistry if you are not completely comfortable with the common acids.
@@ingenitussapientia The fact that it can become explosive is the issue.
I wanna see you do a painting on video!
Thanks!
Thank you for being so generous, I greatly appreciate it :)
Hehe, very nice channel 😅👍
I'm used to make acrylic and watercolour paint from pigments and I even made some prussian blue by myself but I never had the idea to try to make manganese pigments but now I'm really hyped for it 😂
❤
Use dead batteries, the MnO2 is already converted to Mn(OH)2 and MnO. Use the separator that is present and soak in H2SO4 solution. Alternately mix it up then vacuum filter using a disposable funnel/filter made from an old soda bottle.
18:00 ah tak. Dobrze widzę? Olej kujawski ?
20:24 dobrze widziałem. Kujawski
My experience with this is that the pigment reaction seems to be pretty sensitive to temperature, I had one result much like yours, and the next one using a slightly lower temp resulted in a much deeper color.
Piranha to remove the carbon?
Would work, but quite expensive to make such a large quantity of it, and would obviously be quite dangerous too!
I thought lead paint was white
Nvm I'm stuped
14:29 the warfare cocacola is actually healthier than the real cocacola
Question: Couldn´t you have used a high temperature furnace to get rid of all the unwanted oily solutions and carbon particles added to the mangenese dioxide and then later purify it more easily ?
Chemistry is cool
Is there something that prevents you from just burning everything in a high oxygen environment? Carbon just disappears as CO2, MgO2 is already oxydized and Zinc I would assume just melts and puddles at the bottom.
Can you please share the schematics of the ball mill, please?
"Some kind of warfare coca-cola" 😂
Why not make some good old toxic lead or cadmium paint from lead acid batteries or nicd batteries? It's not like you have to eat it
The old thumbnail was better retun it
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Nice
First like and first comment, love you man
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Hmm, interesting 🤨
Let‘s gut a battery that won’t be too angry at getting poked 🥹
you could also get yourself a membrane pump or a water aspirator?