Zone 7b Food Forest 3 Year Update - North Carolina
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2022
- #zone7bfoodforest #ncfoodforest #temperatefoodforest #subtropicalfoodforest This video was created about 3 years into the start of my food forest. I am located in central North Carolina, which is temperate and somewhat subtropical. This is an update with what is going on. In summary, there is a lot more weed pressure, but the perennials are much more productive than they have ever been, too!
If you get a chance check out my new food forest website. It is not 100 percent complete, but is functional. www.temperatefoodforest.com/ I hope it can be a forum for people to discuss ideas about growing food in similar climates as mine.
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also in the piedmont and started my food forest this year, great to finally see someone that has the same climate as me to get good ideas from. thanks justin
Awesome! Keep me posted. I'm starting another one right now. I will do a video soon.
Im also 7B, near Yorktown Va.😎 Im currently (slowly) working on my food forest too. 👍🏽
Going to be planting my 4 year old Goji berry bush and 5 hardy kiwi vines, in the ground next week or 2. Turns out, Goji are winter hardy!
I left it outside in a cold green house last winter and it did wonderful, while many other things died.
Always cool to learn new things. Sometimes you can figure cool stuff out when you take a risk.
Hi Justin! We are 7B too - just NE of Raleigh. We are also working on developing a food forest. For apple trees, I definitely recommend Century Farms Orchards in Reidsville, NC. They specialize in heritage southern apples and can help you select good varieties for our area. Our trees are 5 years old and we got a pretty good harvest this year.
Thank you for the info.
Thank you for this video! I also cannot find Food Forest plant lists, designs or layouts for Zone 7. This was most helpful!
Yes! a 7b farmer i can learn from
I’m in South Coast Georgia zone 8b. I have turned my front yard into a food forest and will be working on adding more food forest sections on my property. There isn’t very much info on food forests in my zone either. I’ve been focusing on Moringa, plums, elderberry, loquats, blueberries, mulberry, figs, satsuma oranges, lemons and other citrus. I’m growing peaches and pomegranates too. Then I’ve got lots of annuals as well as vining plants and ground covers. I’m using sweet potato, longevity spinach and Okinawan spinach as ground covers. I use lots of wood chips as mulch in beds as well as walkways.
I can’t grow apples and cherries here due to low chill hours. I want to try persimmons.
You have an awesome collection going. I highly recommend persimmon, both Asian and American. You might be able to find a low chill hour apple.
Awesome breakdown! Zone 7 is definitely more difficult to find info. Thanks for sharing!
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Interesting.
We live in 6B southern Delaware. we have the same problem with the creeping charlie 🤦🏻♀️ we put down cardboard and about 8 inches of mulch in our food forest and it's gone great for us. the spots where it's thin are definitely growing more, but the upkeep is much easier when you start with a thick layer of mulch. We plan to keep going with that.
Good luck! Keep me updated. I literally just moved and I'm starting from scratch. No creeping charlie here... yet, hopefully forever.
Think of the creeping charlie like the clover. It's a great chop and drop for you because of how easily it grows there. Easy source of fertilizer and mulch 👍 Looking great btw!!
Edit: You can graft goumi on the invasive autumn olive 🙌
SUCH GREAT INPUT! And OF COURSE, elaeagnus, I should have thought of that!!
Can it also be grafted onto Russian olives (Elaeagnus angustifolia)?
@@lornabaker4039yes all elagnus can be grafted
I love seeing the beauty of your lush green plants. And your background nature sounds are wonderful. Thanks for sharing! 🌳🦗🕊️
Jason, I sure appreciate you going through your Gardens like this. I learn a lot from you. Moving to WNC mountains after new home is built. Excited. North Carolina is the most beautiful State imo, no matter where you go. Had not heard of One Green World, thanks for giving them a shout out. Such a great site w awesome plant choices. I had never heard of Goumi trees before. Added to list. I’m potting bare root apple and cherry trees in 15 gallon trees to grow in my 7a climate now, to take w me to my new homestead project. An idea re the blackberries could be growing them in humongous pots. After seeing your issue, I think that’s the route I’ll take just after having to clear about an acre of overgrown blackberries on my new land. The elk loved it so I need to get some thornless ones back in there but they will likely be in large pots. Thanks again for your personal sharing in your journey of gardening self sufficiency with a Food Forest.
Aloha Justin, your food forest looks amazing. I grew up in Charlotte and had a food forest in Maryland for 10 years where the Creeping Charlie drove me batty. I loved growing the Pawpaw in Maryland and now I’m in Hawaii and growing all the tropical Anona fruits. Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing 🤙
Thank you so much! I bet it is awesome growing those tropical fruits!
@@justinthewildoutdoors I am definitely enjoying myself. Check out the channel if you get a chance. 🤙
Thanks for the tour. Zone 7b here. I completely understand the creeping Charlie take over. I’m learning to work with it as well. I’ve managed to pull it out of smaller beds but only ever one half step ahead. It’s allowed free range over parts of my forest garden where I just pull it off and out of other plants. Some say creeping Charlie pulls heavy metals and toxins from the soil so can be useful for soil remediation. The updates on your best three is helpful. So pleased to see how well the peaches have done. I’ve ordered apple trees for fall or spring planting from a zone 6 nursery hopefully these varieties will work well here. Celeste and brown turkey fig have done great for me. They die back to the ground for the first 2-3 years but then establishing very nicely.
So glad to hear about your experiences, it really helps wrap my ahead around my future garden plans. If i ever buy more apples it will be from Century Farm Orchards in Reidsville, NC due to there proximity to me and very similar climate. They are in a very similar climate, maybe slightly cooler than mine.
Just found your channel. I am in South eastern NC and need all the help I can get. Ya have a new subscriber and follower!
Hey great video! I just discovered your last update video a couple days ago and it was great to see another one so soon! Thanks so much for making content specific to NC, I’m in the western part of the state and there’s a few people doing things relevant to the mountains here but we need more zone 7 content all around! Keep up the great work and I’ll be eagerly waiting for the next video!
Thank you so much. I'm so excited to hear from other people in NC.
@@justinthewildoutdoors Host a seed swap!! Some of the libraries in the Piedmont Triad were before COVID. I’d love to see someone bringing it back
Agreed! There aren't really that many videos of gardening in these region
Your food forest looks amazing 👍 Congratulations 🎉 you've over 1000 subscribers now 🙌
Thank you@
Will you do a fall/winter update? I’d love to see what these guys do in a couple of months. Thank you for this update! I found your two year video first and was so excited to see the theee year was already up
I’m jealous of all the different kinds of fruit that can be grown in zone 7. I’m zone 4, things are pretty limited here as it sometimes gets down to -30 F in winter.
!Pp0s
Oh yeah. Not the same, but you do still have good options.
Great videos! We're in Zone 3a, but we actually have a lot of the same plants, and there's plenty to see/learn.
thanks for the update. i started my forest around the same time as yours. i have been keeping tabs on your videos to get ideas for mine. i am in coastal NC, 8a/8b, so we have a somewhat close climate zone. for mulch, i have had the same issue of getting wood chips. so i started using dropped leaves from the fall and grass cuttings later into the summer once the rains start.
I am trying to shift my views as well. I am going to start to do more leaf and grass mulch, like you. I supposed its all about taking advantage of the resources that we have access to. Thank you so much for following.
Ordering some naking cherrys, persimmons, and paw paws on the 1st can't wait
If you plant certain very thick growing plants likee comfrey around the edge of property it will help keep out those rhizome spreading plants like creeping Charlie
I love going back and watching you from the beginning - I can’t wait to get mine going here. Thank you for updating us.
Love the Channel I’m moving back to Tennessee soon to my food forest so I can take care of it and vice versa
That is awesome!
Thank you! Glad to find you. I'm in Western North Carolina, 6a & b, with lots of microclimate (very micro lol) areas.
This will be very enjoyable for me to watch and I can adapt it I'm sure.
I'm also in zone 7 but in a different climate. I am in Eastern Washington and we got hot summers but also cold winters we get around 2000 chill hours. It was great to see your food forest! I am working on preparing my ground and I am going to plant my food forest next spring
Thanks first of all for mentioning of the climate zone!
You bet!
Great,enjoyable tour of your forest and garden. Fine selection of both plants/ trees and flowers.I hope to use some of your advice here in east central Tenn. Thanks for this most helpful video.
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great tour, man! A lot of work and it shows. 👍🏻
Thanks! 👍
I’m in the Triad and hope you upload soon…good stuff!
Awesome. I am starting a new food forest at a different property. Should be much bigger. I will post soon.
One thing I wish I would see more of is an on paper design compared to how the food forest is growing and the succession of it all. Would you be willing to share some general big picture designs of your food forest?
We are in High Point and want to begin planting in the fall!
That's a great video idea. I will look for some of my old drawings and try to do a video like that.
Hi there! Great video. Any chance for an update?
Great stuff. I am in the same area and am starting my food forest using permaculture and hugelkultur. Thanks for the info and will watch for more updates.
Hi Justin! I just found your channel this morning and I've subscribed! Your food forest and gardens are beautiful...love the video and how you explain things so well. I like the fact that your video is not a quick 10 minute blur and you tell what you've planted and how well it's doing. I'm in zone 7 in Virginia and I want to expand my little garden this year and you have given me some great ideas. Ordered a ton of seeds from Baker Creek and I can't wait to get them started in my greenhouse. One question I have is do you have problems with snails?
Nice video & amazing food forest. Thanks for sharing ! And about creeping Charlie, it's an edible plant, you can use it either as herbal tea or in salads...
You are correct it is very much useful.
This looks amazing! Goals for my land. 🤞
You can do it!
Dude it’s looking great! Nice work! I just got some property in eastern Tennessee. Same zone. Keep
It up!
Thanks!
Thanks Dude !!!
For sure!
I’m in Davidson county NC. Just found your page and just starting your video, hoping to see some pawpaw trees in your forest. If not hit me up I can send you some in the spring.
Hello. Thanks for the tour. We are also in the Piedmont area. How do you prep your areas for growing with red clay dirt in this area for in ground planting?
Red clay is actually not that bad. It does hold nutrients fairly well. I dig a big hole for my trees so there is room to drain. I also mulch heavy and top with very rich compost.
i like so i just subbed
Thank you!
I live in 7b in Southern Illinois. Apples grow very well here. I think our hills and clay soil are good for apples. What type of soil do you have in NC?
I live in Chattanooga TN, Zone 7b and have a 2 year old food forest. THanks for sharing your journey! We have a HUGE problem with Creeping Charlie too. When I put down mulch, it acts like I put it there for its personal enjoyment! Has anyone found a ground cover that can out compete it? I was thinking about groundnut since that also fixes nitrogen, but I've heard that can be very aggressive. Any thoughts?
Unfortunately, I have given into it. I can't plant annuals into my food forest, but it doesn't bother the bigger perrenial. Now I weed wack out as a chop and drop!
How is your food forest going. Can you do an update?
So I actually moved and I'm starting a whole new food forest. I still own the other property, so I might still do updates.
I’m in an area very close to Asheville also 7B climate zone unfortunately I live in an HOA and I am not sure what I’m allowed and what I’m not allowed to grow on my property but my current area of vegetable gardening is three beds their raised beds and I grow tomatoes and peppers and squash and green beans and peas, but I also have two fruit trees. I have a green apple tree granny Smith and a cherry tree the problem I’m having is I have a lot of wet areas in my yard that I cannot figure out what to grow in. Can you suggest some plants that like to be moist while growing unfortunately I have a creek that runs by my house and a spring underground near it which keeps the ground very moist. I also get full sun, which is good but I still don’t know what to grow.
I’m in Zebulon looking to start a food forest. Where are you located in NC?
Your apple tree should produce fruit this year if not then next year. Judge by the size it may have been 3 year old tree.
I think you are right, but I also think we had a warm winter so we might not have hit the chill hour requirements.
Did you get all of your plants/trees from a local nursery or did you have to buy some online?
Hi Justin. What is the variety of your pear tree? Hope it is doing well this spring. How big is the pear tree expected to get with pruning? Do you prune it the same way as a peach tree? Also did you wrap your peach and/or pear tree over the winter?
Hey. These are great question. Sorry for the late reply. I don't wrap any trees. My peach trees are pruned to an opened center. Pear trees are more of a central leader. I've got hosui and chojuro Asian pears, keiffer pears, moonglow pears. I am buying some new ones for a new food forest. Pear trees can get up to 10ft fast and some will get very large.
Good morning Justin, do you plant any grapes? If you did, what type are working for you, disease, resistant! Thanks, Michael.
I grow some grapes, but they are really finicky with our wet climate.
Chemical-free? What about vinegar, salt, dish soap and some Dr.Fred's Arthritis Rub? All natural, organic, and it works well. I'm all for trying to stay away from the insane stuff sold in the big box stores, but basic science can really help out. And if it means getting a leg up on the Creeping Charlie and Wysteria.... isn't that a good thing?
Vinegar remains in the soil and can render that area usless because other plants will die there in the future. Salt can also cause issues.
New update please!😊
So crazy thing...I moved. I still own that property so I may still do an update, but I'm also starting a much bigger food forest.
Do you water any of your perennials? I am in the same area and new to gardening.
HI! I do water them when I first plant them, but after one year I do not water them at all. Not watering them forces them to put down deep roots and become independent of needing us to water them.
@@justinthewildoutdoors, got it. I enjoyed the video, there isn't much on here specific to growing food in peidmont so I definitely appreciate your videos. I would be interested in videos on specific plants that describe in detail how/where to aquire, plant, troubleshoot, harvest, etc. in the peidmont region. Just an idea since you seem to have done a lot of research.
8:00 Nanking cherry 😋
Did you paint your trees when you planted them?
No I did not
How do you handle Japanese and June beetle in June, July?
I have learned milky spore will get rid of them 😊
Milky spores are probably the best answer, but I don't personally have experience. I just use traps.
Check out old timers 15 year old food forest in middle Tennessee
harvest the creeping charlie
The apples are too small to bloom. They just need to be a little bit bigger and if you’re cutting them back, that would be a problem.