Badminton Level of the U.S. national team? vs LeeYongDae, Tony Gunawan

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @rb-ex
    @rb-ex Рік тому +91

    a little background if ur interested: one of the US players is PONGNAIRAT sattawat, a thai-american player born in the new york area but trained on the west coast. i do not know anything about his partner, "shu". PONGNAIRAT was once ranked 28 in MD and 44 in MS. in case you dont know, there is zero badminton tradition in the US. it has been popularized to a small extent, largely by asian-americans in california. popular american sports are baseball, american football, basketball, ice hockey. most americans have no clue about badminton and are familiar with it only as a backyard lawn sport played once or twice a year by children, and the vast majority wouldnt have ever heard the name lin dan or lee chongwei. this is why you almost never see or hear of american badminton players, there is no depth of up and coming talent like you have all over asia or even in europe or russia, and the few talented players in the US have very limited resources or challenging players to work with. it's not like china where former national and local team coaches abound in every metro area and you'll find talent in every place you might go, even in the countryside
    this is a fun match to watch, because the players are having fun while playing fairly seriously, although there are some club-player level errors. also interesting to see lyd impressed into service in the back court
    a couple things i observed. @2:06 you see pongnairat's partner jump sideways to the left tramline to attack. does pongnairat stay left-front to cover the net? no. he knows his right-handed partner is not in a good position to take a cross reply, so he retreats cross with the reply and makes an attacking winner. perfect read
    then there's what lyd's partner does @6:57 when receiving a lift. instead of explosively moving behind the shuttle, he kinda drifts back slowly-- because you wouldnt want to harsh out your chill-- and replies with a clear(!?) struck from behind his body, which is in front of the service line. this is how he plays when lyd is his partner. in response to another lift @7:03, he does the same thing
    the real meaning of america is truth, and anyone who aligns with the truth is a great american, no matter where you were born or what your passport says, but that doesnt mean badminton is good in the USA. if lyd went almost anywhere in asia, even in the most remote place in china, he would not have been paired with a lazy partner like that-- impossible. but apparently for a friend, he's being very generous with his time and talent

    • @howiedareindeer1289
      @howiedareindeer1289 Рік тому +67

      lyd’s “lazy partner” is Tony Gunawan. 2x world champ and olympic gold medalist, he is currently 47

    • @user-cu3bj8ip1u
      @user-cu3bj8ip1u Рік тому +40

      LYD's partner is Tony Gunawan, former World No. 1, Olympic and World champion and currently coaching in the US... He did some sessions training both LYD and YYS in 2019. He's also near 50 years of age and it's just an exhibition game, so maybe cut him some slack instead of calling him lazy. You can see during this game LYD and Tony are confident in their defense and are comfortable lifting and being patient, so I don't think lifting on those shots was poor strategy. By the way Pongnairat's partner whom you don't know anything about is Howard Shu, previously ranked 37 in XD.

    • @rb-ex
      @rb-ex Рік тому

      @@howiedareindeer1289 doesnt matter what your name is or what you did in the past. it only matters what you do now

    • @tenandzen
      @tenandzen Рік тому

      @@rb-ex lol guy is old already of course his speed is compromised you absolutely don't know what you're talking about. Stop your nonsense.

    • @Moonlight-oi9kw
      @Moonlight-oi9kw Рік тому +32

      @@rb-ex if that's ur mindset, then no need to learn from history I guess.

  • @garbun0629
    @garbun0629 Рік тому +19

    Lee Yong Dae just played casually....still miss his old golden days...he's just so much fun to watch..

  • @JR-1983
    @JR-1983 Рік тому +19

    TG one of the finest men's doubles players of all time.

  • @tinkerfy
    @tinkerfy Рік тому +26

    Lee Yong Dae & Tony Gunawan are playing leisurely..

    • @theonewhoasked9520
      @theonewhoasked9520 Рік тому +6

      Lmao the translation of this comment to english by youtube is absoloutely bonkers

    • @JackahoonaLaGuna
      @JackahoonaLaGuna Рік тому +1

      So this is how you translate english into english 😂

  • @moccomocco
    @moccomocco 4 місяці тому +3

    The title is misleading. There is absolutely NO U.S. national team. All 3 players are formerly national champions, but there is no national governing body that sponsors and provides training for individuals in the USA. Everybody is SELF-financed, self-sponsored, self-trained. It's not like Asia or Europe.

  • @andretheseal9837
    @andretheseal9837 4 місяці тому +1

    It would be treat if badminton became more popular in the US

  • @ronlyon4645
    @ronlyon4645 4 місяці тому +5

    badminton as a sport is getting discriminated since college level throughout the US. When it's time for badminton, they always have excuse so the court can be used for other sport instead of badminton even it says badminton time on the schedule. What i mean by they here is the college sport director or some high authority staff.

    • @hiwrenhere
      @hiwrenhere 4 місяці тому

      Yeah. Even at community centers it's like this.

    • @Indiana-r9b
      @Indiana-r9b 4 місяці тому

      It’s understandable because they hated this sport, no reason to promote it.

  • @taozhang4223
    @taozhang4223 4 місяці тому

    Badminton in US is not popular as basketball/baseball/football (etc.), so top US badminton players are actually sort of third tier team compared to Asian country teams like china, korea, japan, indo, etc, even worse than UK, france,

  • @mamato5033
    @mamato5033 Рік тому +1

    Tony Gunawan from Jakarta?

    • @caturutomo443
      @caturutomo443 Рік тому +1

      He moved citizenship, he is now US citizen

    • @cinajawa
      @cinajawa Рік тому

      Tony is from Surabaya, East Java.

  • @dawjy9413
    @dawjy9413 4 місяці тому

    US badminton sucks

  • @zakiidin
    @zakiidin Рік тому +8

    For next exhibition match... I wish to see Gunawan partner with Hendra Setiawan🔥🔥🔥

  • @tanchiashin2006
    @tanchiashin2006 Рік тому +34

    47 yr old and still jumping 💪💪💪

  • @hariyadiekarusnandar2601
    @hariyadiekarusnandar2601 Рік тому +3

    MD gold medal & XD gold medal olympic

  • @mamato5033
    @mamato5033 Рік тому +2

    Jump smashnya Tony masih galak,,👍👍👍

  • @codylim1
    @codylim1 Рік тому +6

    3:41

  • @BenedictChen
    @BenedictChen Рік тому +1

    Just FYI, there is no such thing as USA national team.
    Sadly, as of 1996 the Olympic Training Center decided badminton is not a priority and kicked everybody out.

  • @timmyturtle1066
    @timmyturtle1066 Рік тому +2

    It’d be nice to see badminton’s popularity increase if USA comes into competition

  • @paopaosenor2445
    @paopaosenor2445 Рік тому +4

    Well USA ( asian ) team OPSS HAHAAH

    • @ohboi9578
      @ohboi9578 Рік тому

      What's wrong lmao. USA is the land of every race

  • @codylim1
    @codylim1 Рік тому +4

    1:19

  • @nikhilsingh6988
    @nikhilsingh6988 Рік тому +1

    what i liked in this video is the people sitting on the left and right side of the court just watch the you will love them too...

  • @codylim1
    @codylim1 Рік тому +2

    Finished watching 7:27

  • @GaryGao-l6b
    @GaryGao-l6b Рік тому

    USA players against LYD and Tony are Howard Shu and Pongnairat Sattawat

  • @kenchi7686
    @kenchi7686 4 місяці тому

    Anything half court or loose, you can be sure gunawans gonna finish it off.

  • @edwardguo8524
    @edwardguo8524 Рік тому

    who is purple guy in usa national team. he play well too

  • @KangACjadijadian
    @KangACjadijadian Рік тому

    LYD play with Idol TG 😊

  • @lstephen1778
    @lstephen1778 Рік тому

    OK

  • @pranavsingh4214
    @pranavsingh4214 Рік тому +8

    tony gunawan smash is still strong man!

  • @ntgeralt
    @ntgeralt Рік тому

    全是亚洲人在对决 美国队呢

    • @qidongxu7339
      @qidongxu7339 Рік тому

      Why nobody said Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky are Europeans? Where is US swim team?

  • @pembencifanatism6335
    @pembencifanatism6335 Рік тому +4

    US team? Most the them are Chinese/ Korean look.

    • @ndkhoa2812
      @ndkhoa2812 Рік тому +13

      You don't know much about the US do you?

    • @pembencifanatism6335
      @pembencifanatism6335 Рік тому

      @@ndkhoa2812 yeah, i know. Just like Malaysia. But mostly are Asian face there.

    • @qidongxu7339
      @qidongxu7339 Рік тому +5

      Why nobody said Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky are European look? Where is US team?

    • @gamondeluxe
      @gamondeluxe Рік тому

      Check out their national basketball team as well. Surprise!!!

    • @vijayendranvijay457
      @vijayendranvijay457 Рік тому

      You cannot look American unless you are native American. Everyone else came from overseas or children of overseas people.

  • @kennytanification
    @kennytanification Рік тому +1

    USA: not a single Caucasian
    Lol

    • @sujataadhikari6059
      @sujataadhikari6059 Рік тому

      Because they can't endure for longer time like for a 3 game match 1hr 20 minutes with same intensity is unimaginable for them... That's why not only USA ,, Australia, Canada... Everyone takes player of Asian descent

    • @jackgm6325
      @jackgm6325 Рік тому +3

      ?? Caucasian are not native american also, most of them came from German, irish or england.

    • @ayodeji7651
      @ayodeji7651 Рік тому +11

      USA is a nationality not a race. Different races are born in America.

    • @icedlatt3
      @icedlatt3 Рік тому +3

      @@sujataadhikari6059 All those countries you mentioned have a lot of ethnically Asian players as representatives because those players are the best in their respective countries, not because "Asians have better stamina". Race and ethnicity doesn't have anything to do with it, saying that is disrespectful to the hard work of the players. They also live in and are citizens/residents of their respective represented countries. The American players in this video may be of asian ethnicity but they are born and raised and live in the USA, they're American.

    • @sujataadhikari6059
      @sujataadhikari6059 Рік тому

      @@icedlatt3 genetics plays a part in your physical stature and endurance and that's a scientifically proven fact... So don't give me the "they live there so they are American" shit

  • @kenchi7686
    @kenchi7686 Рік тому +1

    Anything loose or a half court lift, Tony will finish you off. Beautiful angles. If anyone watches his prime days, his smashes are so deceptive.

  • @官志城-e8h
    @官志城-e8h Рік тому

    小朋友水平!

  • @suckahmahd7804
    @suckahmahd7804 6 місяців тому

    these guys wont even beat chinese highschoolers

    • @HPPKC
      @HPPKC 6 місяців тому

      maybe do some research before commenting. of these 4 players, 2 are olympic gold medallists and 2 were ranked in the world's top 50.