Z32? Just asking cuz I only ever hear that from Z32 owners. Nissan wasn't nice to people in that dept lol. The Z31's have huge engine bays but the V6 is essentially the same size and uses the same mounts. I love Z32's but I hate helping my cousin work on his 91 lol, I have an 86 and I feel spoiled
Sports cars died out because their one gimmick, going fast, is no longer exclusive to them. In a market where the fastest non-sports car could accelerate to 60 in a scant 10 seconds, a 30 grand two seater that could reach it in half the time was impressive. But now, when literal tank sized mom wagons that can seat 7 full sized Americans can catch up, or outrun, modern sports cars at the same exact price point, sports cars are a much harder sell. So now they have to sell on 'feeling', and the vast majority of American wheel holders have as much feeling as numb hands wearing boxing gloves trying to read braille.
One of the best explanations of the current car world, and sadly most people’s ability to know the difference or to even be able to pay attention in the car long enough before they grab there phones lol.
base price of this: $44k. next trim up is $52k. they priced themselves out of the market for people who bought these things really. it was gg from the jump
They assumed the name would be enough to sell and that would have been true if like BCG said it invoked nostalgia bc people will pay that 52k if they can remember those days but that thing right there ain't it never was and there huffing farts if they think anyone's gonna buy that same with the mk5 idk why someone really thought when people still dropping bags on cash on 20-year-old cars that the mk5 was ever gonna sell at this point it flops and no matter what people say mk4 and 3 will always be it, especially mk4 I mean christ fast and furious ever heard of it I did so did a lot of others xD
Uhm I dont think you know anything about engines. The b58 is an amazing engine. Theres a reason toyota one of the best engine, and car manufacturers decided to use it.
@@nathantroutman4728 i can definitely understand the point you're making about the bmw branding hurtimg the sales. But I would argue the mk5 supra making it this long is a success in itself. They are no longer making it in part because bmw cancelled the z4 which its based on. In general all sales of sports cars have been on a downward trend and car companies are having to pivot. I mean shoot look at dodge, and nissan.
@@Simplepudding64 sports cars will always sell. The Toyota supra would’ve sold well if it was a supra through and through! Look at the Ford Mustang Ford never stop selling that thing because everybody knows it’s a Mustang through and through! No matter what engine it has it’s pure Ford. Sports cars won’t sell because most car manufacturers act like their brain dead when designing the things.
Choices been dwindling down these days. Back then there were entry, intermediate and high end performance cars offered from nearly every maker in the world. Even Isuzu got into the sports car market.
as some one who drove many of the JDM of the 90s when new, the nostalgia of the younger generation is greatly misplaced. those cars were awesome because they proved Japan had finally arrived. the tuning came along years later. especially outside of Japan. now, EVERYTHING is fast and awesome. also, most of the JDM powerhouses of the 90s were expensive when new. FDs, 300zx, 3000gt VR4, GT-Rs were all as expensive as a Vett or 911 when new. in the states they struggled to sell and were not affordable till a decade later.
Great vid! Lots of cars lately were doomed from the start. Integra Type S and Civic Type R are crazy overpriced, especially with dealer markups. Supra and Z are overpriced too, but I remember the 90’s Supra 2JZ being $60k at dealerships. Now, Mustang GT can hit $65k, and Benz CLA45s is close to $68k. If you drop $20k on any of these, reviews would totally change!
Unfortunately those prices can't come down for a variety of reasons. These vehicles use bespoke parts, and due to their extremely low volume of production, these parts are much more expensive to engineer, test, and manufacture. Secondly are fuel efficiency/emissions taxes, these vehicles fail those requirements, so they impose a tax that the consumer has to pay. I don't think anyone wants to sell a low volume car where they make a profit of 82 dollars per car, to compensate for how unpopular sports cars have become, they set the price however high they want, because those who want them will buy them. Their main source of revenue comes from massive, expensive SUVs which are absurdly cheap to produce due to how many of these they sell.
I used to own a Z32TT. Loved it and hated it. It was the worst car to work on and after 20+ years the plastic wire connectors dissolved, basically requiring a complete rewire.
The failure of the Z is not remembering why the 350 succeeded. It was so beautiful it made people spend their hard-earned Mustang GT money on it, and it kept up with 5.0 in a drag race too. This ain't 2003 anymore. The Z needed to ship with the VK56 engine in it after the 370 gave everyone erectile dysfunction.
1:54 the reason why sports cars as a whole are dying is this right here. the people who want these cars are too smart to buy them new (the only way the companies make money) there needs to be a fundamental change in the market. getting a sports car should be like getting a gaming pc. the companies only sell the parts of a modular platform and the customer or a hired builder puts it together. less risk for the companies and a lower barrier for buyers.
im so happy BCG speaking on bidness bc I definitely seen the mk5 defenders all the way back when it was coming out the glazers were coming out but you had people like me defending the more known untouchable mk4 supra so for him to say this speaks volumes to me as car guy/car gamer I grew up on games like gran turismo nfs test drive etc and now where in there did I ever think Toyota needed to make that mk5 idc what they thought it's bad and I don't nor will I ever want it the loyalty to the 90s is too strong but also it doesn't look good at all of that alone im out
yep, there's no comparison when the new cars are faster and better driving in every way. as some one who drove many of the JDM of the 90s when new, the nostalgia of the younger generation is greatly misplaced. those cars were awesome because they proved Japan had finally arrived. the tuning came along years later. especially outside of Japan. now, EVERYTHING is fast and awesome. also, most of the JDM powerhouses of the 90s were expensive when new. FDs, 300zx, 3000gt VR4 GTRs were all as expensive as a Vett or 911 when new. in the states they struggled to sell and were not affordable till a decade later.
@ If we were to follow your logic, these newer mustangs would’ve sold better than their predecessors, the A90 would’ve sold better than an A80 or A70, the 400z would outclass a S14/S15, a fucking rogue outsells them, so please don’t 🤣 they simply are not on the same level, newer doesn’t not equal better, it means lazier & cheaper design, & fewer modification options, theres a reason people choose to modify & invest craploads of money into retro cars vs newer ones, & this is only one of them. Not to mention, you forget, these newer cars you are dickriding, would not exist if not for their predecessors.
@DaDeCodeIsTruth The newer a Supra gets, the worse it sells, that is just one JDM car, one argument to end this debate & invalidate that entire paragraph, I can keep going, but I wont. There’s a reason why most choose to buy & modify the A80 over the A90: & it’s definitely not because it’s cheaper 😁
I’m still getting a Supra. Was torn between building a Z32, buying the Z 👎🏾, or the Supra. I’m a motorcycle guy, married with kids so I really don’t have a lot of time to ride much. So a two seater for me would be ideal. I’m not too keen on it being a BMW but it has tons of non dealership support and aftermarket support. I figured I’d spend more than 45K to get the Z32 the way I want it ant it would still lack some creature comforts.
What makes it worse for the Nissan Z is Nissan made a new 3.5l v6 twin turbo for the armada and qx80 that makes 450hp and 516 tq. They easily could have made a whole different engine for the z as for the supra maybe if bmw and Toyota only collaborated in making a new inline 6 engine together and that was I maybe the supra would have been much better.
Nobody wants BMW hands on a Toyota engine we are here for Toyota not BMW they are already made a B58 I might as well go there no need to spend the same money on a Toyota when I can get the mystique and luxury of a BMW
I went and saw the Supra at the 2014 Chicago auto show when it was the FT1. And BOIIII IT WAS THE SHIT!!! Had they built the FT1, it WOULD have been legendary.
Supra had problems with the design of the front driver side window peeler ,if you roll down the window on the driver makes a lot of Noise 😕😔...an Toyota was receiving a lot of Complaints about it...😮😮 3:18
I got my brother's 1991 twin turbo 300zx sitting in my backyard it needs a engine rebuild but the transmission is fine he said hes not letting it go because its hard to find and the prices are insane i dont blame him either
That entire rearside and roofline of the Z youre complaining about wasnt just on the 370Z. It was on the 240z, 260zx and 280zx. The only complaint I have with the car is the price, the twin turbos are nice but for what you get it was better off starting off at 35k and maxing out at 50k. Yes the engine is the same as the Q60, but Nissan been sharing engines with and from their Zs since like the z31 off the top of my head. Fix that price and sells will go up
A few years ago i was gonna buy a z32 tt and asked two local mechanics if the car broke would they fix it and they both said no, so I bought a c6 vette 😂😅
😂 Ass soon as i saw that roof line I chose to keep my 370. They also put a 3.0 twin turbo with twice the problems as the VQ🤮. The cherry on top was how it is slower than all other sportscars with turbos🤮🤮
Its always so wild that Toyota really thought it was a good idea to use a BMW drive train rather than making a successor to the 2zj. Doesn't matter how much it cost, if it still was Toyota then people would buy it.
They should have made the Supra bigger, make the styling a bit different from the Toyota 86 . But instead they made it look like an 86 with a kit and used someone else’s engine… they lost the plot .
The new Eclipse is a discrase. Mitsubishi has lost their way. I have owned a 1990 Eclispe, 93 3000GT VR-4, 2008 EVO X GSR with SSS package and currently own a 1994 3000GT VR-4.
I think the z4- ahem, supra, looks pretty cool, some good wheels, a good paint job and maybe some tunes to it and you'll have a nice ride right? Just kidding, this thing is god awful, the best a90 to grace this earth is the judd V10 swap from mad mike, I despise this car for what it is But hey, the BMW effect exists, gotta give it time
I’m not gonna hold you, this take is a fat L. For one, the Supra is not being discontinued. The Australian-built ones are yes, but Toyota executives have confirmed the Supra will remain in production. By the way, Nissan Z sales have picked up and now it’s in par with, and sometimes surpassing Toyota Supra sales. The Z is fine. Besides, Nissan has bigger fish to fry than to please insatiable purists. Not to mention, why would Nissan call it the “400Z?” Because it has 400 horsepower? Not only does that go against the previous nomenclature of the Z car lineage, it would also mean the Z Nismo would have to be called the “420Z NISMO”. Calling it simply the “Z” was the right move. You contradicted yourself several times by bringing up Dodge SRT products and Camaros. You criticized the Z for being similar to the 370Z other than the powertrain, yet the 2024 Charger Scat Pack is pretty much the same car as the 2012 Charger SRT8, which by the way is very similar to the 2006 Charger. Also, you say the Japanese sports cars should have V8s because that’s what people want, but I’d argue that isn’t what most people look for when buying a Japanese sports car. If Toyota tried to beat Dodge at their own muscle car game, they would fail miserably and I bet even the likes of you would mock them for doing that. Again, putting boosted 6-cylinder engines was the right move. And comparing new car prices to used car prices? Come on. That’s unfair and you know it. Not to mention, buying a car based on your predictions of how women will react to it-I don’t even need to get into why that’s ridiculous.
The Supra legend died 2002, that BMW in a Toyota dress is not and never will be worthy of the title Mk5 supra, in fact after the year 2000 the whole Japanese tuner car wars was dead thanks to emissions horse dung, you can own a private jet that dumps raw unburnt av gas into the atmosphere but that Japanese turbo car is bad,it's slightly different here in the UK but it's still horse dung just cooked different, I highly doubt we will ever witness the 1990s era cars again unless some proper actual data is recognised
Wasn't emissions cause turbos beat out everything in terms of emissions. That's why literally everything is coming with a turbo these days. Japan had economic stagnation which killed off the Japanese sports car market in 2000.
90s JDM cars are enthusiast cars. light weight, balance and handling were top priority. Modern JDM cars are appliances for normies who want 2 sun roofs and hybrid bs. who tf cares about gas mileage in a race car?
3:10 WAAAY TOO RELATABLE 😭🤣
What made 90's JDM so crazy was innovation and over engineering which made the aftermarket for the vehicle's exceptional.
Man me and my uncle used to work on his old 300zx dope car but damn modifying the engine was a pain 😂
Z32? Just asking cuz I only ever hear that from Z32 owners. Nissan wasn't nice to people in that dept lol. The Z31's have huge engine bays but the V6 is essentially the same size and uses the same mounts. I love Z32's but I hate helping my cousin work on his 91 lol, I have an 86 and I feel spoiled
@@blue6gunhe had a red z32 it was a rocket till he traded her and got a 370z nismo that he babys
Sports cars died out because their one gimmick, going fast, is no longer exclusive to them. In a market where the fastest non-sports car could accelerate to 60 in a scant 10 seconds, a 30 grand two seater that could reach it in half the time was impressive. But now, when literal tank sized mom wagons that can seat 7 full sized Americans can catch up, or outrun, modern sports cars at the same exact price point, sports cars are a much harder sell. So now they have to sell on 'feeling', and the vast majority of American wheel holders have as much feeling as numb hands wearing boxing gloves trying to read braille.
Horrible take! These cars are garbage
One of the best explanations of the current car world, and sadly most people’s ability to know the difference or to even be able to pay attention in the car long enough before they grab there phones lol.
And the sports cars they put out are heavy as fuck and soul less
base price of this: $44k. next trim up is $52k. they priced themselves out of the market for people who bought these things really. it was gg from the jump
They assumed the name would be enough to sell and that would have been true if like BCG said it invoked nostalgia bc people will pay that 52k if they can remember those days but that thing right there ain't it never was and there huffing farts if they think anyone's gonna buy that same with the mk5 idk why someone really thought when people still dropping bags on cash on 20-year-old cars that the mk5 was ever gonna sell at this point it flops and no matter what people say mk4 and 3 will always be it, especially mk4 I mean christ fast and furious ever heard of it I did so did a lot of others xD
nah fam those nissan Z's are going for up to 70,000 thats why its failing. At 35,000 it probably wouldve done well.
Bro. Don’t get me started on that “integra”…
BMW engine hurt that car sales
Uhm I dont think you know anything about engines. The b58 is an amazing engine. Theres a reason toyota one of the best engine, and car manufacturers decided to use it.
@Simplepudding64 I know it's a good engine but you're missing the point of its branding
@@nathantroutman4728 i can definitely understand the point you're making about the bmw branding hurtimg the sales. But I would argue the mk5 supra making it this long is a success in itself. They are no longer making it in part because bmw cancelled the z4 which its based on. In general all sales of sports cars have been on a downward trend and car companies are having to pivot. I mean shoot look at dodge, and nissan.
Should've had a 2jz with a manual
@@Simplepudding64 sports cars will always sell. The Toyota supra would’ve sold well if it was a supra through and through! Look at the Ford Mustang Ford never stop selling that thing because everybody knows it’s a Mustang through and through! No matter what engine it has it’s pure Ford. Sports cars won’t sell because most car manufacturers act like their brain dead when designing the things.
Choices been dwindling down these days. Back then there were entry, intermediate and high end performance cars offered from nearly every maker in the world. Even Isuzu got into the sports car market.
as some one who drove many of the JDM of the 90s when new, the nostalgia of the younger generation is greatly misplaced. those cars were awesome because they proved Japan had finally arrived. the tuning came along years later. especially outside of Japan. now, EVERYTHING is fast and awesome. also, most of the JDM powerhouses of the 90s were expensive when new. FDs, 300zx, 3000gt VR4, GT-Rs were all as expensive as a Vett or 911 when new. in the states they struggled to sell and were not affordable till a decade later.
Great vid! Lots of cars lately were doomed from the start. Integra Type S and Civic Type R are crazy overpriced, especially with dealer markups. Supra and Z are overpriced too, but I remember the 90’s Supra 2JZ being $60k at dealerships. Now, Mustang GT can hit $65k, and Benz CLA45s is close to $68k. If you drop $20k on any of these, reviews would totally change!
Unfortunately those prices can't come down for a variety of reasons. These vehicles use bespoke parts, and due to their extremely low volume of production, these parts are much more expensive to engineer, test, and manufacture. Secondly are fuel efficiency/emissions taxes, these vehicles fail those requirements, so they impose a tax that the consumer has to pay. I don't think anyone wants to sell a low volume car where they make a profit of 82 dollars per car, to compensate for how unpopular sports cars have become, they set the price however high they want, because those who want them will buy them. Their main source of revenue comes from massive, expensive SUVs which are absurdly cheap to produce due to how many of these they sell.
2:53 💥 “ is it going to win over the masses “ 💯
How can a new car possibly give you nostalgia
😂😂😂 *"Your tongue pointing to the food in your teeth, but your finger can't seem to find it"* #Classic
I used to own a Z32TT. Loved it and hated it. It was the worst car to work on and after 20+ years the plastic wire connectors dissolved, basically requiring a complete rewire.
The A90 sexy tho ! Especially with a spoiler and as far as the integra, Acura broooke my heart 💔
The failure of the Z is not remembering why the 350 succeeded. It was so beautiful it made people spend their hard-earned Mustang GT money on it, and it kept up with 5.0 in a drag race too. This ain't 2003 anymore. The Z needed to ship with the VK56 engine in it after the 370 gave everyone erectile dysfunction.
I would prefer a new Z than a watered down Supra that BMW had to put an engine into ..
1:54 the reason why sports cars as a whole are dying is this right here.
the people who want these cars are too smart to buy them new (the only way the companies make money)
there needs to be a fundamental change in the market.
getting a sports car should be like getting a gaming pc. the companies only sell the parts of a modular platform and the customer or a hired builder puts it together.
less risk for the companies and a lower barrier for buyers.
im so happy BCG speaking on bidness bc I definitely seen the mk5 defenders all the way back when it was coming out the glazers were coming out but you had people like me defending the more known untouchable mk4 supra so for him to say this speaks volumes to me as car guy/car gamer I grew up on games like gran turismo nfs test drive etc and now where in there did I ever think Toyota needed to make that mk5 idc what they thought it's bad and I don't nor will I ever want it the loyalty to the 90s is too strong but also it doesn't look good at all of that alone im out
These newer cars could NEVER compare 🤣
yep, there's no comparison when the new cars are faster and better driving in every way. as some one who drove many of the JDM of the 90s when new, the nostalgia of the younger generation is greatly misplaced. those cars were awesome because they proved Japan had finally arrived. the tuning came along years later. especially outside of Japan. now, EVERYTHING is fast and awesome. also, most of the JDM powerhouses of the 90s were expensive when new. FDs, 300zx, 3000gt VR4 GTRs were all as expensive as a Vett or 911 when new. in the states they struggled to sell and were not affordable till a decade later.
@ If we were to follow your logic, these newer mustangs would’ve sold better than their predecessors, the A90 would’ve sold better than an A80 or A70, the 400z would outclass a S14/S15, a fucking rogue outsells them, so please don’t 🤣
they simply are not on the same level, newer doesn’t not equal better, it means lazier & cheaper design, & fewer modification options, theres a reason people choose to modify & invest craploads of money into retro cars vs newer ones, & this is only one of them.
Not to mention, you forget, these newer cars you are dickriding, would not exist if not for their predecessors.
@DaDeCodeIsTruth
The newer a Supra gets, the worse it sells, that is just one JDM car, one argument to end this debate & invalidate that entire paragraph, I can keep going, but I wont.
There’s a reason why most choose to buy & modify the A80 over the A90:
& it’s definitely not because it’s cheaper 😁
I’m still getting a Supra. Was torn between building a Z32, buying the Z 👎🏾, or the Supra. I’m a motorcycle guy, married with kids so I really don’t have a lot of time to ride much. So a two seater for me would be ideal. I’m not too keen on it being a BMW but it has tons of non dealership support and aftermarket support. I figured I’d spend more than 45K to get the Z32 the way I want it ant it would still lack some creature comforts.
Got my 98 Stagea and my 87 200ZR. Still running. Do your research for these older vehicles.
What makes it worse for the Nissan Z is Nissan made a new 3.5l v6 twin turbo for the armada and qx80 that makes 450hp and 516 tq. They easily could have made a whole different engine for the z as for the supra maybe if bmw and Toyota only collaborated in making a new inline 6 engine together and that was I maybe the supra would have been much better.
Nobody wants BMW hands on a Toyota engine we are here for Toyota not BMW they are already made a B58 I might as well go there no need to spend the same money on a Toyota when I can get the mystique and luxury of a BMW
Saw a nice Supra the other day
Shxt had some nuts
I drove by and thought it was the truck but it was the Supra sounding like a damn school bus
I always thought the tail light treatment was really cool looking
lol at the A90 supra is a failure comment. somebody was too young to know the a80 supra was a sales failure as well.
I went and saw the Supra at the 2014 Chicago auto show when it was the FT1. And BOIIII IT WAS THE SHIT!!! Had they built the FT1, it WOULD have been legendary.
R35 Gtr ftw
Supra had problems with the design of the front driver side window peeler ,if you roll down the window on the driver makes a lot of Noise 😕😔...an Toyota was receiving a lot of Complaints about it...😮😮 3:18
Bro analogies be killing me lmao
The markups killed these cars
A VR4 is on my wishlist
I got my brother's 1991 twin turbo 300zx sitting in my backyard it needs a engine rebuild but the transmission is fine he said hes not letting it go because its hard to find and the prices are insane i dont blame him either
300zx don’t hold a lot of value.
When are you going to get into a garage and gives us the builds we deserve!?! 👀
The Integra was the worst
I simply can't disagree.
>Deep Down its just a Rebaged Civic Type R
To be fair, that's exactly what the OG Integra was
A 4 door Civic Type R
That entire rearside and roofline of the Z youre complaining about wasnt just on the 370Z. It was on the 240z, 260zx and 280zx. The only complaint I have with the car is the price, the twin turbos are nice but for what you get it was better off starting off at 35k and maxing out at 50k. Yes the engine is the same as the Q60, but Nissan been sharing engines with and from their Zs since like the z31 off the top of my head. Fix that price and sells will go up
A few years ago i was gonna buy a z32 tt and asked two local mechanics if the car broke would they fix it and they both said no, so I bought a c6 vette 😂😅
😂 Ass soon as i saw that roof line I chose to keep my 370. They also put a 3.0 twin turbo with twice the problems as the VQ🤮.
The cherry on top was how it is slower than all other sportscars with turbos🤮🤮
They should have just kept the F1 concept and use their own in-house engine
They cost to much 4 me 😂. All of them.
Cars are just unaffordable. The market is down across the board.
Its always so wild that Toyota really thought it was a good idea to use a BMW drive train rather than making a successor to the 2zj. Doesn't matter how much it cost, if it still was Toyota then people would buy it.
Is it going to win over the masses 😂
Actually you can get a Infinity Q60 Redline for cheap
They should have made the Supra bigger, make the styling a bit different from the Toyota 86 . But instead they made it look like an 86 with a kit and used someone else’s engine… they lost the plot .
Mkv in 4 years has outsold the MKIV in its entire entity. 😂 how is that a fail? Nostalgia doesn’t mean it’s better. 😂
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The vehicles they give us these days are inherently lazy. Couldn’t have said it any better.
This bullshit started around 2008 like gangbusters
I hated that Supra
CAMARO BOYS WYA
The new Eclipse is a discrase. Mitsubishi has lost their way. I have owned a 1990 Eclispe, 93 3000GT VR-4, 2008 EVO X GSR with SSS package and currently own a 1994 3000GT VR-4.
Shit take at the end there
The Z is more like 60-70k at most places
The best Nissan Z cars had pop-up headlights
The best Nissans all had names that started with "S".
@@camerons6028ehhh Fairlady Z
Only the Z31 had pop-up headlights. Why are you typing car in plural form?
I'll take a Supra over any Dodge bullshit
I think the z4- ahem, supra, looks pretty cool, some good wheels, a good paint job and maybe some tunes to it and you'll have a nice ride right?
Just kidding, this thing is god awful, the best a90 to grace this earth is the judd V10 swap from mad mike, I despise this car for what it is
But hey, the BMW effect exists, gotta give it time
Aren’t Toyota making the celica? They are making a 4 cylinder and cited the 2jz as inspiration.
I saw some videos about a new Celica, not just by ai dubbed videos
But as you can guess, the prices are of course gonna be ridiculous
I’m not gonna hold you, this take is a fat L.
For one, the Supra is not being discontinued. The Australian-built ones are yes, but Toyota executives have confirmed the Supra will remain in production.
By the way, Nissan Z sales have picked up and now it’s in par with, and sometimes surpassing Toyota Supra sales. The Z is fine. Besides, Nissan has bigger fish to fry than to please insatiable purists.
Not to mention, why would Nissan call it the “400Z?” Because it has 400 horsepower? Not only does that go against the previous nomenclature of the Z car lineage, it would also mean the Z Nismo would have to be called the “420Z NISMO”. Calling it simply the “Z” was the right move.
You contradicted yourself several times by bringing up Dodge SRT products and Camaros. You criticized the Z for being similar to the 370Z other than the powertrain, yet the 2024 Charger Scat Pack is pretty much the same car as the 2012 Charger SRT8, which by the way is very similar to the 2006 Charger. Also, you say the Japanese sports cars should have V8s because that’s what people want, but I’d argue that isn’t what most people look for when buying a Japanese sports car. If Toyota tried to beat Dodge at their own muscle car game, they would fail miserably and I bet even the likes of you would mock them for doing that. Again, putting boosted 6-cylinder engines was the right move.
And comparing new car prices to used car prices? Come on. That’s unfair and you know it.
Not to mention, buying a car based on your predictions of how women will react to it-I don’t even need to get into why that’s ridiculous.
Ill buy that supra over any heavy american pos that cant turn
The Supra legend died 2002, that BMW in a Toyota dress is not and never will be worthy of the title Mk5 supra, in fact after the year 2000 the whole Japanese tuner car wars was dead thanks to emissions horse dung, you can own a private jet that dumps raw unburnt av gas into the atmosphere but that Japanese turbo car is bad,it's slightly different here in the UK but it's still horse dung just cooked different, I highly doubt we will ever witness the 1990s era cars again unless some proper actual data is recognised
Wasn't emissions cause turbos beat out everything in terms of emissions. That's why literally everything is coming with a turbo these days. Japan had economic stagnation which killed off the Japanese sports car market in 2000.
90s JDM cars are enthusiast cars. light weight, balance and handling were top priority. Modern JDM cars are appliances for normies who want 2 sun roofs and hybrid bs. who tf cares about gas mileage in a race car?