Spot on. When I had my JT living in SoCal w/ 37’s ball joints started to wear within a few months. I had 4.10 and it was fine for my needs UNTIL I started adding weight. Sold the jeep and looking to get into a new JT soon in San Antonio.
Thanks for the instructional video! Most just see the bigger tires and the lifted jeeps, but there are so many things to keep in mind if you want the proper Jeep mods.
Thanks for the info and words of advice from your experience. I'm just getting into this and learning all i can, thanks again. (i'm in the Austin area btw and ride my dirtbike at Hidden Falls ORV park, will be taking the new Gladiator there for some fun!)
Thanks for watching. Man i am learning everyday, 37s definitely surprised me w everything else i may need. Right on, HF on a dirt bike would be epic !! Exodus 4x4 in NB isn't far if you ever need solid advice and or service
I appreciate it! Ya sometimes people don't want to hear an honest opinion but I try to arm you w enough information to make your own decision for what's best for you. I've done everything but truss, axles shafts, and hydro assist steering... soon hopefully lol Thanks for watching I'm back on new content soon
Just Empty Every Pocket... jeep life ✌😎 my Glad RUbi came with a factory installed 2inch mopar lift, AEV 17" wheels, 35'' BFG KO3's, been thinkin about going to 37's, but i'm gonna have to hit the lottery to afford it.. yours looks great !
thanks for the video. my front slip joint boot is beat.. i’m still on the fence between 4:88 or 5:13 on my rubi.. rock slide engineering is a game changer.. installed last weekend and i love them on my 4.5” lifted gladiator on 37s
Hell ya I tore the crap outta the boot and it was flapping everywhere. Good times. I went w an aftermarket DS made local and that made a diff also on clearance. I was thinking of moving the brace it hits back further possibly for a video. My 5.13s are fun. Probably a little overkill.. I'll try them next month and get more of an idea and share results.
Thanks for sharing the information. Checked so many other videos but this one is a clear picture of what we need to run 37s. Suggestion: Please share the part details in the description that you have used and tested on your rig. Becomes easier for the new comers to know what stuff to look for. Thanks
Awesome vid. Just got a 23 Gladiator Willys, same color as yours. Already thinking about putting 35s on it. Was only thinking about a lift kit to go with it. Now I gotta put more money aside lol.
Yep, I second guess myself often! I'll probably give the JT to my son in a few years and get a rubicon or Mojave next. Interior in the Mojave is fire 🔥 and there is nothing wrong w 35s. I may go down later too as getting in and out at 50 sucks lol Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I went with 4.88s on my JTR with 37s. It makes a big difference. My truck no longer has a hard time with shift points and I actually see 8th gear now. Before, I'd mostly only ever see 6th gear. On a rare occasion, it would hit 7th. You get a head wind..forget it.
That's a great combo. My 5.13s are a little over kill generally for me lol I always learn after the fact ! I feel like it's a race car driving on my 37 KO2S w an empty bed and no spare tire
@@pioahumada although I find that impossible to believe, purely based on the design of the stock balljoints and practical experience, I am legitimately happy for you being an outlier somehow getting 40k out of them with 37’s.
Thanks! I wish I had seen this video before I bought my Jeep... I'm only running 35s but I'm learning about this stuff. I think 35s or what I'm going to stick with.
I appreciate you uploading. I'm building a JTRD on stock axles. The way I would do it if I could go back and start over is: geo correction, springs, triple bypass shocks and 37s on some beadlocks. You'll have tons of fun for minimal investment and then can just upgrade as necessary. The consensus, among the prerunner forum I've been to, is that if you do axle shafts, guss and trusset the axle then you don't need 1 tons or hydorassist. Couple of things I'm doing: I'm utilizing a geometry correction even with Synergy Stage 3 kit and I'm not regearing but instead I'm going Stage 2 - 300WHP 550WTQ.
Nice. Yea I'm having 2nd thoughts on my build on a couple decisions. I don't have lockers yet, but yeai was able to see 1st hand the issues 37s and larger tires cause on steering when locked. Almost no steering in parts, I was shocked. No I'm understanding more lol nothing $$ can't fix right ?! Thanks for watching and for commenting, I'm learning more everyday
@vincentmamotos9937 all you need to run bypass shocks is a geo correction and springs on this platform. By minimal investment I'm talking like 7k in parts or so.
@@turboleggy 7k is minimal? xD. you dont really even need to run byass shocks. Teraflex falcon SP2 3.3 is about 1.9k front and rear before taxes. FOX DSC 2.5 with adjusters is about 3k, and king adjustables 2.5 is also 3k.
@@TXJeepDad Highly recommend watching the vids from Epic Adventure Outfitters, on their Jeep builds. They have the upgrades to 37’s & 40’s down pat. Be sure to give the Ginger a thumbs up. 🤙
Yes, mine had a lift and 35s on it when I bought it. It was fun, but no acceleration, gas mileage was 💩 and they'd obviously not regeared it. Traded the 35s for some stock Mojave wheels/tires and overall usability went way up. Gas mileage up by 10% If you do a lot of off-road or you've got a lot of compensating to do. Then go 37+😅
Damn I’m glad I didn’t watch this before adding 37’s to our 2020 Launch Edition Gladiator. We’ve got 25,000 miles on on Rubicon factory wheels MOPAR lift, no wheel spacers Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Damn these trucks look so damn good with 37’s!
Thanks for the tips. Love your jeep. This discourages me fromo even going with 37's. Really want them. But not sure if I can find 10k to run 37's. Mine is an ecodiesel.
Its a lot to consider. You won't need to regear w the diesel on 410s so thats a savings,, mainly just replace parts as they wear out if you did decide to make the move. Next time I think 35s would be my move . Have fun and enjoy the ride. Thanks for watching
Soooo... just an AEV 2" lift (instead of the 4") on the Mojave (already has the heavy Ball Joints and steering. ) with 37x12.50...Regearing to 5.13 for sure though. might save me some money and still be safe. Great Video Brother. Thank you.
Not sure if all is correct. Jeep has the option of going with 37 through mopar with stock component except a 2” spacer lift on Rubicon. Even the gear ration stays as 4.10 So it should be doable and reliable, as Jeep sells it as is
Right on, i appreciate it. Of course if you don't beat on it, most of this can wait. I kinda feel like maybe I painted a bad pic now lol might do another vid 🤔
@TXJeepDad I think the video was very informative to me in making life decisions on either going 37" or 35" lol seriously though you gave me a lot to consider on going with 37" on the financial side of it. The rawness of the video was good to me, if you decide to make another I'm sure it would be great as well....again thank you 😊
Go with the diesel on these builds no regear needed with 37 I drive in Colorado mountains didn’t notice any difference and still keep 20mpg I love my rubicon diesel the extra money is well worth it
So the Mojave is supposed to have steel knuckles and stronger ball joints. Definitely wonder about that now. Just wish we'd gotten a hemi in them for the weight.
Ya I had no idea when I got mine that things like knuckles etc were diff between models. Definitely would explain why they can go longer wo any issues than the Sport and Sport S. I learn everyday. Lol
Great Video by the way, I am currently thinking on 35 or 37 move. So if you were to do it today, would you still do 37" ? or just go 35" with a ~3" lift, which allows you to keep most of it (regear from 3.73 to 4.10 maybe?)? What would be a good choice? Since moving to 37, mostly, means after tear and wear of components, mostly.
Honestly, I love my 3.5 lift and 37s look amazing on JTs, however it's a slippery slope and eventually it costs money on parts. Heck I'd do a 2.5 lift and 35s all day esp for a daily driver. Then replace stuff as needed. You could ride 373s w 35s way longer than on 37s. You may be disappointed w anything less than 4.88 and 5.13s on 37s. Kinda depends on your pockets and deep they are ! Both look great 👍🏼
The biggest thing is going to be lift tiers/ wheels and gears. I am going to replace other stuff as they go out, and it will be aluminum, and I plan on rock krawler adventure x 4.5 lift with the triangulated rear end. What do you think, and would I really need a drive shaft it's been told to me both ways, and if not right away, the next thing like I sed as things go bad
I agree w you, replace as necessary. I did that exactly initially (lift, wheels, tires, gears) Anything 4 in and above I've been told is where a new front DS becomes necessary. I didn't right away and I can't see any reason you couldn't do the same. As you crawl you'll see opportunities for parts to be replaced. So much stuff out there! It's overwhelming at times lol
Yea i got my 37s on my other jeep a new steering pump after market big bor, new ball joints, welded c gussets, 5.13 gears, recalibration ,chip, new steering fox stabilizer, 6 inch lift, drive shaft, break calipers with new power stop breaks, heavy duty tie rod, heavy duty drag link, bump stops , 2.0 fox shocks, spacers for tires , high jack Must of spent about 30k on up grades
Ya, my steering is being pushed to its limits currently. I'd definitely consider an upgrade for it. Your build is bad ass ! Lots of great additions. Man I haven't even addressed brakes !!! Lol it never ends right ?!
Will there be any different with the ball joints an knuckles with the 2023 mojave. I know they have better parts than the Rubicon in that area but not much else
Hey man, I’m new to the Jeep brand, I was wondering what PSI would my 37s need to be at for the tire warning light to stop showing? Hope to hear from you soon!
Generally anything below 28 psi my light comes on. If you have 37s you also need to change the tire size diameter in the computer so your speedometer will be accurate. (You may already have, but if not then...) You can use a Tazer or J scan and it will also let you set the tire psi you want (so the light wont come one anymore). So you could set it at 20, 25, 28.. literally any number you want. (Tazer mini not tazer lite) Also PSI can differ greatly depending on tire load rating etc. Look up "How to Chalk test tires" to find the ideal PS for your tire. That will help you dial it in for even tire wear 👍🏼
These trucks have much bigger steering and suspension pieces than past jeeps, if you break or wear them out in a few thousand miles you probably need to slow down on speed bumps or something, I had a tj on 35s just regeared with lockers and id Baja blast it and jumped it a few times and never needed up steering or ball joints for the 80k I had it for, these trucks got d44 that are modern and can work fine with 37s
Thanks. Man honestly I'm just starting to journey down that rabbit hole. I don't have any experience w them or many others yet. I still need to upgrade mine
What if you want to run 37 but don’t plan on wheeling it just doing it for esthetics cause you like the way it looks. Can you run 37s without upgrading all the stuff for road only riding ?
For sure. My vid is more of what's going to wear out eventually. I'd drive it and swap out parts if and when they need addressed. Otherwise send it and have fun
I'd just add as you need it honestly. If you get a tire that isn't too heavy, you will be good for awhile esp if you don't wheel it. My vid is more for the rock crawling/ off road focused enthusiast. Enjoy and have fun
35s are great, and keep your 4.10 gears. Even w 37s im spending more than I ever anticipated. Rubicon is the way to go, you have a great jeep from the get go
Absolutely steering IMO Tie rod and drag link asap. If it's lifted add a track bar, otherwise send it and replace as / if necessary 🤙 Have fun, 37s can go over so much !
No not really. If you aren't hard on it, then the parts will last much much longer. My friend has 40s w 373s and runs all stock steering and ball joints. His performance is down, but he's a mall crawler and takes it easy so everything is doing fine. Most people just replace as needed. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I want 37x12.5 on a 4” inch lift on my Willys. Do you think it would be ok to wait one year before a regear if it’s 90% Highway driven with absolutely zero rock crawling?
No issues at all. Heck it may not be a big deal to you based on driving style. Esp if you have max tow pkg w 4.10s. I have a friend w 40s and 373s for over 2 years now. He's a mall crawler and it's fine for him. You would be surprised how few people regear
@@TXJeepDad Haha thanks, I couldn’t imagine 40s! I’ll probably get the same Rusty’s advanced 4” lift you got. What additional parts did you get, like tie rod or drag link?
Actually in the shop right now getting RPM 2.5 tie rod and drag link combo, dynatrac HD ball joints, synergy sector ector shaft brace. We shall see how it works out. Very beefy for off road action
Sounds like the average situation. Wanting to look cool before you are actually cool. Build the base first. Or just hand the shop $20,000 and let ‘em do it all right.
Hey brother hoping you can give me further insight on the steering upgrades. I have a Gladiator with 37x13.5R17. Since changing of the wheel steering is so sloppy. A loose wheel is what I can describe it best as. What would be something you would recommend to stiffen up the feel of the wheel/ response when turning Thank you so much in advance. New to the bigger wheel game would love some feedback
I appreciate you watching, Have you swapped out the factory Drag Link and factory Tie rod yet? (Factory steering components) if not Id start there. The factory parts just can't handle the weight of the 37s for long. For me I instantly knew I was going to have to change OEM stuff fast. My steering is awful now. Next Monday I'm getting 2.5 ton RPM tie rod and drag link installed and I'll do an update vid w results. I also am swapping out the ball joints, adding sector shaft brace and new steering stabilizer. If you have a shop you trust near you, ask them about diff parts I've suggested and they can help guide and install too
Damn bro! I have a Willy’s and was thinking about 37’s also but now I think I’m just gonna go with 35’s also I commute about 60 miles a day. Do you think I’ll need to re-gear?
Not everyone regears, heck most my buddies w 4.10 s aren't going to even on 37s and 38s. Another friend on 40s and 373s for 2 years now and he hasnt replaced anything or regeared! You'll be fine on 35s IMO You'll be fine brother 👍🏼
You could honestly do most of this later, if at all, depending on how you drive. Esp if you don't beat on it, then the cash outlay isn't too bad for 37s
Guys i got a question. So I have a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Sport S with an ecodiesel motor. I have a 2" mopar lift kit on it and i have installed rubicon fenders so i have more space between the wheen and the fender to allow me to put bigger wheels. Question is because my jeep is not a rubicon and doesn't have the same gearing, what would i need to do to run 37" wheels? I really dont want 35's. If anyone knows, please let me know.
Just run it. As you do things where you need more power then consider regrearing. You don't have to do it right away or at all if it's not a concern for your driving style. Especially that Eco ! It's a beast. I doubt you will have to regear as you already have a very capable set up. 😉 Your good, send it ! 37s or 35s would be perfect w that lift
@@TXJeepDad I don't do any wheeling and almost no offroad as I'm an old lady, I drive on pavement only. Rehearing costs some money. I just want to look cool. )). I don't abuse my vehicle. I drive slower than I should.
@TXJeepDad I really like how Gladiator looks with 37's. I can probably wait a couple of months to collect a few more pension checks to get the re-gearing done. One problem would be getting in and out. It's not very easy to do at age 75. But I think it's doable.
As long as the 37s you get aren't too heavy, you will be good. Honestly. Just get a tazer to reprogram the computer for tire size and you are set. My 37" KO2 s barely measure 35.5 lol so not too tall. My 5.4 wife hops in ok 👍🏼 Save that 2K for something else you may need or want
My front Fox shocks are junk. Terrible squeaking noise. Being replaced under warranty, glad my Mojave is stock as Jeep will reject warranty if they can. Over $8000 Canadian dollars.
Holy crap! Thats a lot of money, glad they are taking care of it for you. Mojaves are generally pretty solid. Mine goes in the shop tmw for new goodies, unfortunately 100% outta pocket lol vids soon
@@TXJeepDad I went through Amazon for the hookup to the bumper.. Had to drill the bumper plastic for the bolt.. and hitch, 2” to 6” adjustable from harbor freight .. but your lift Looks higher in the rear than my Rough country 3.5”lift…
I agree, it's definitely not a cheaper way to go. That having been said I'm pleased w how it's coming along. Axle shafts and lockers next up and then this build is done.
You don't have to do all this for 35s. You can just replace components as they/ if they wear out. I have several buddies on 35s w everything else stock
@@TXJeepDad awesome! I'm on 35s now and about to put on a Clayton 2.5 overland plus and falcon shock's and just wondering. You're JT looks awesome! Fellow Texan. Here in Grand prairie. DFW
@@TXJeepDad Yes...for me, my Gladiator (Rubicon) is way more capable than I'll likely ever need as-is/OEM stock, but if I ever DO need its full potential, it's there! Besides, when I go off-road I only do the roads/trails rated "easy" or "moderate," not the ones rated "difficult" (trail damage likely) or "extreme" (trail damage guaranteed) -- I don't find scratching, gouging,bending/breaking truck parts or rolling-over "fun" as many seem to I guess (given the DF/S things they do on their UA-cam channels). But mainly, as I was living in Colorado at the time (in TX now but may go back to CO in 2 years), even on the hwy I couldn't think of a BETTER vehicle to be in to get me home safely in a serious snowstorm/blizzard -- and the (big enough) 33" Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires are a huge reason. "Jeep Wave" -- BR
I'm positive if I had a rubicon from the jump, none of this would have happened until much later down the road. Lol I knew nothing when I bought my jeep. I thought it looked cool and the price was great 😆 I'm trying to convince my wife to relocate to CO. I'd have already moved if I had my way !
@@TXJeepDad The MAIN reason I'm back in TX s to "regroup" financially and be in a better position to BUY a property in CO (Colorado Springs) so I can go back and do that. That is, ONLY if housing prices there -- as well as the currently TOO HIGH mortgage interest rates (!) -- go WAY down. So I'm using the time here in TX to pay 2 things off so I have a way better DTI Ratio when I go in to a lender for a mortgage pre-qualification letter. I'm hoping by late 2025, home prices/apartment rentals (also very high in CO) -- AND said mortgage interest rate -- will then be in my "comfortable" ball-park. Otherwise, I guess I stay in TX and buy here instead. Only time will tell...but at least my Gladiator will be paid-off before then. No wife/kids to consider so I go wherever/do whatever I want -- and buy whatever I want (within my modest means, of course, not being "rich"). ;-) Enjoy your Jeep! "Jeep Wave" -- BR
You're ahead of me lol This is my 1st 4x4 and jeep. So much I have learned and still need to learn. But man these things are a blast ! I waited way too long !
If your spouse asks say no way, much less.. but shoot now I've added DL / TR / lift / tires / gears / ball joints/ steering shaft brace, steering stabilizer... I'm well over 10K.. next are axle shafts / lockers front and rear. Then it's done 😆
What a negative Nelly. I put 37s on my Gladiator Rubicon with aftermarket offset wheels then put the Mopar lift in the following month. No rubbing problems even before the lift. Guess you should start with something a little better next time. 8000 miles and no play in anything not to mention I have the 100,000 mile warranty to cover all the crap you are crying about.
Man!!!! You answered every question I needed to hear. I’ve been trying to decide on 37’s vs 35’s. I’m gonna stick with a 2.5” metal cloak GC on 35’s. Any suggestions on additions or changes with this setup? Thanks brother. Awesome.
Heck I'd run it and as you feel a beefy or upgraded component can help, then make the move. I find having a local experienced shop to bounce stuff off of is very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask questions and get various opinions before you mod. I wasted some cash early one by not doing enough research. Most importantly have fun! 35s won't beat up as bad as 37s and 40s do 👍🏼
wow thanks, you gave me a lot to think about, very informative to me a beginner I think ill stick with the 35s for now but you jeep looks great
Dope video! Super fun and informative thank you for putting this together for us mate!
I appreciate that 👍🏼 thank you for watching
Spot on. When I had my JT living in SoCal w/ 37’s ball joints started to wear within a few months. I had 4.10 and it was fine for my needs UNTIL I started adding weight. Sold the jeep and looking to get into a new JT soon in San Antonio.
Man I miss socal. I was out there long Beach and laguna hills area w the navy. This Texas heat ! Lots of fun here too, esp in a Jeep!
Safe travels 👍🏼
Thanks for the instructional video! Most just see the bigger tires and the lifted jeeps, but there are so many things to keep in mind if you want the proper Jeep mods.
I appreciate it. When I started this adventure I was very unaware and have learned a lot along the way.
Thanks for the info and words of advice from your experience. I'm just getting into this and learning all i can, thanks again. (i'm in the Austin area btw and ride my dirtbike at Hidden Falls ORV park, will be taking the new Gladiator there for some fun!)
Thanks for watching. Man i am learning everyday, 37s definitely surprised me w everything else i may need.
Right on, HF on a dirt bike would be epic !!
Exodus 4x4 in NB isn't far if you ever need solid advice and or service
Dude, very concise to the point and pretty thorough. Great video.
I appreciate it, thank you
That rock at Hidden Falls Adventure Park is like a right of passage for TX Jeep off roaders 😆. Great Video!
Right?! Always have to stop for a pic when we go lol
Thanks for watching, I appreciate the kind words
Thats so funny! I've seen lines forming to pose on that rock!
Best, concise video on YT for 37s. Thanks for sharing your experience ❤. I certainly subbed after watching this. TJD 👍
I appreciate it! Ya sometimes people don't want to hear an honest opinion but I try to arm you w enough information to make your own decision for what's best for you.
I've done everything but truss, axles shafts, and hydro assist steering... soon hopefully lol
Thanks for watching
I'm back on new content soon
Just Empty Every Pocket... jeep life ✌😎 my Glad RUbi came with a factory installed 2inch mopar lift, AEV 17" wheels, 35'' BFG KO3's, been thinkin about going to 37's, but i'm gonna have to hit the lottery to afford it.. yours looks great !
Aint that the truth! I appreciate it👍🏼
Man you have a great rig there, I know it will perform well out there for sure! The mopar lift is solid 👌
thanks for the video. my front slip joint boot is beat.. i’m still on the fence between 4:88 or 5:13 on my rubi.. rock slide engineering is a game changer.. installed last weekend and i love them on my 4.5” lifted gladiator on 37s
Hell ya I tore the crap outta the boot and it was flapping everywhere. Good times. I went w an aftermarket DS made local and that made a diff also on clearance. I was thinking of moving the brace it hits back further possibly for a video.
My 5.13s are fun. Probably a little overkill.. I'll try them next month and get more of an idea and share results.
Very informative. Thanks a bunch man.
I appreciate it 👍🏼
I'm taking notes Bro. Thanks for going over this!
I appreciate it. I'm learning a lot on this journey !
Very informative I appreciate the information!!
You bet. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing the information. Checked so many other videos but this one is a clear picture of what we need to run 37s.
Suggestion: Please share the part details in the description that you have used and tested on your rig. Becomes easier for the new comers to know what stuff to look for. Thanks
Right on. I need to update my vids w details on the parts etc.
Now my Jeep has almost every part suggested lol slippery slope
Damn, you destroyed my dreams in buying 37's but at least i know what it takes to do it right which is a shit load of money. Thanks for the info.
Wow what a very detailed video great job
Thanks I appreciate that 👍🏼
thank you for watching
Thanks for sharing this.
You bet. Thank you for watching
Awesome vid. Just got a 23 Gladiator Willys, same color as yours. Already thinking about putting 35s on it. Was only thinking about a lift kit to go with it. Now I gotta put more money aside lol.
It's a great jeep as it but man they look great w a lift ! 35s are perfect too
Nice Jeep Brotha 👍🏼 love the color and setup 👍🏼
Thanks ! Ya I saw the color and was hooked. I appreciate you watching 👍🏼
Excellent. Thank you.
Great vid! 99% of people wont get all those upgrades. Money money money...will keep my 35's on my Mojave for now.
Yep, I second guess myself often! I'll probably give the JT to my son in a few years and get a rubicon or Mojave next. Interior in the Mojave is fire 🔥 and there is nothing wrong w 35s. I may go down later too as getting in and out at 50 sucks lol
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
@@TXJeepDad The real trick is getting your wife in and out of your truck. I hear it every time.
@@fchrisb804 omg facts! 😆
I went with 4.88s on my JTR with 37s. It makes a big difference. My truck no longer has a hard time with shift points and I actually see 8th gear now. Before, I'd mostly only ever see 6th gear. On a rare occasion, it would hit 7th. You get a head wind..forget it.
That's a great combo. My 5.13s are a little over kill generally for me lol I always learn after the fact ! I feel like it's a race car driving on my 37 KO2S w an empty bed and no spare tire
Great info!
I appreciate it 👍🏼 thanks for watching
MOJAVE has iron ball joints put 488 gears while apart put in front locker and a 21/2 Mopar lift. Fox steering stabilizer. All good zero problems.
Bad ass. I love the Mojave platform. Better parts for sure. 4.88s are perfect choice👍🏼
He's so right about putting heavy-duty ball joints & steering components otherwise you will experience dead wobble
Mine being stock, not worries about that stuff. Nice.
-- BR
I have insane death wobble and my truck is as stock as can be.
Great information. Thanks!!
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Good Video!
Ty for the info!!!
You bet. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I'm glad you started with ball joints. Folks complain about wobble with 37's and have 20k on the stock ball joints. They were shot 15k ago 😂
I got 43k on stock ball joints, running 37s. Steering it perfect. Added forlx Ats stabilizer and it tracks and drives like a dream
@@pioahumada although I find that impossible to believe, purely based on the design of the stock balljoints and practical experience, I am legitimately happy for you being an outlier somehow getting 40k out of them with 37’s.
Thanks! I wish I had seen this video before I bought my Jeep... I'm only running 35s but I'm learning about this stuff. I think 35s or what I'm going to stick with.
I appreciate it. 35s are what I'd go with if I did it over again. Once you start to go bigger, eventually, it will require upgrades.
I appreciate you uploading.
I'm building a JTRD on stock axles. The way I would do it if I could go back and start over is: geo correction, springs, triple bypass shocks and 37s on some beadlocks. You'll have tons of fun for minimal investment and then can just upgrade as necessary.
The consensus, among the prerunner forum I've been to, is that if you do axle shafts, guss and trusset the axle then you don't need 1 tons or hydorassist.
Couple of things I'm doing: I'm utilizing a geometry correction even with Synergy Stage 3 kit and I'm not regearing but instead I'm going Stage 2 - 300WHP 550WTQ.
Nice. Yea I'm having 2nd thoughts on my build on a couple decisions. I don't have lockers yet, but yeai was able to see 1st hand the issues 37s and larger tires cause on steering when locked. Almost no steering in parts, I was shocked. No I'm understanding more lol nothing $$ can't fix right ?!
Thanks for watching and for commenting, I'm learning more everyday
@swt99908 thank you bro. God bless. Look forward to more content!
"minimal investment" that doesnt go in the same sentence as triple bypass shock
@vincentmamotos9937 all you need to run bypass shocks is a geo correction and springs on this platform. By minimal investment I'm talking like 7k in parts or so.
@@turboleggy 7k is minimal? xD. you dont really even need to run byass shocks. Teraflex falcon SP2 3.3 is about 1.9k front and rear before taxes. FOX DSC 2.5 with adjusters is about 3k, and king adjustables 2.5 is also 3k.
So stay away from 37s got it
If replacing lots of parts isn't an issue, 37s are cool. But otherwise, 35s seem to an easier route on the pocket lol
@@TXJeepDad Highly recommend watching the vids from Epic Adventure Outfitters, on their Jeep builds. They have the upgrades to 37’s & 40’s down pat. Be sure to give the Ginger a thumbs up. 🤙
Yes, mine had a lift and 35s on it when I bought it. It was fun, but no acceleration, gas mileage was 💩 and they'd obviously not regeared it. Traded the 35s for some stock Mojave wheels/tires and overall usability went way up. Gas mileage up by 10%
If you do a lot of off-road or you've got a lot of compensating to do. Then go 37+😅
What about a 2.5” lift with 33s tire on it what the cons?
I run 35-in tires but they're only 11 and 1/2 in wide and I average 18 mi to the gallon on factory Mojave wheels.35 x11.5 ridggrapplers
Damn I’m glad I didn’t watch this before adding 37’s to our 2020 Launch Edition Gladiator. We’ve got 25,000 miles on on Rubicon factory wheels MOPAR lift, no wheel spacers Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Damn these trucks look so damn good with 37’s!
Shoot your golden. I Definitely go back and forth on whether I'd do it again lol
My first Gladiator had 1.5” level kit and 37s and would definitely do it over again it was great on and off-road
Yessir!!!!! Great vid bro
Thanks brother! I'm learning a lot from you OGs ! 🙏
Thanks for the tips. Love your jeep. This discourages me fromo even going with 37's. Really want them. But not sure if I can find 10k to run 37's. Mine is an ecodiesel.
Its a lot to consider. You won't need to regear w the diesel on 410s so thats a savings,, mainly just replace parts as they wear out if you did decide to make the move.
Next time I think 35s would be my move . Have fun and enjoy the ride. Thanks for watching
Cool video. Well done
Thanks 👍
Soooo... just an AEV 2" lift (instead of the 4") on the Mojave (already has the heavy Ball Joints and steering. ) with 37x12.50...Regearing to 5.13 for sure though. might save me some money and still be safe. Great Video Brother. Thank you.
Nice video, thanks
I appreciate it. Thank you for watching 👍🏼
Basically if you have anything less than a 1 ton pickup you need to be thinking about all this. The 4x4 magazines used to preach all this. Good video.
Thanks I appreciate it
Great video 😊
Thank you 👍🏼
hey thanks for this!!
You bet. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Good stuff 💪💪💪👍
Appreciate it!
RCV axle shafts replace
The knuckles. Works great. Just have to grease once a year. And take the wheels off to do it
I need to upgrade mine for sure. I'd love to add RCVs w lockers next year
Not sure if all is correct.
Jeep has the option of going with 37 through mopar with stock component except a 2” spacer lift on Rubicon. Even the gear ration stays as 4.10
So it should be doable and reliable, as Jeep sells it as is
Daaang my man, you have given some great information, I'm a new owner of a 2023 Gladiator and planning to go 37" good vid 🦾
Right on, i appreciate it. Of course if you don't beat on it, most of this can wait. I kinda feel like maybe I painted a bad pic now lol might do another vid 🤔
@TXJeepDad I think the video was very informative to me in making life decisions on either going 37" or 35" lol seriously though you gave me a lot to consider on going with 37" on the financial side of it. The rawness of the video was good to me, if you decide to make another I'm sure it would be great as well....again thank you 😊
Go with the diesel on these builds no regear needed with 37 I drive in Colorado mountains didn’t notice any difference and still keep 20mpg I love my rubicon diesel the extra money is well worth it
I agree! Torque for days and no need ro regear. Esp w rubicon trim. Recently wheeled w a JTRD, felt like more torque than my 5.13s. Very impressive
So the Mojave is supposed to have steel knuckles and stronger ball joints. Definitely wonder about that now. Just wish we'd gotten a hemi in them for the weight.
Ya I had no idea when I got mine that things like knuckles etc were diff between models. Definitely would explain why they can go longer wo any issues than the Sport and Sport S. I learn everyday. Lol
Great Video by the way, I am currently thinking on 35 or 37 move. So if you were to do it today, would you still do 37" ? or just go 35" with a ~3" lift, which allows you to keep most of it (regear from 3.73 to 4.10 maybe?)? What would be a good choice? Since moving to 37, mostly, means after tear and wear of components, mostly.
Honestly, I love my 3.5 lift and 37s look amazing on JTs, however it's a slippery slope and eventually it costs money on parts. Heck I'd do a 2.5 lift and 35s all day esp for a daily driver. Then replace stuff as needed. You could ride 373s w 35s way longer than on 37s. You may be disappointed w anything less than 4.88 and 5.13s on 37s.
Kinda depends on your pockets and deep they are !
Both look great 👍🏼
I have 38 Nitto’s and have upgraded to 5:13s and RCV shafts. Everything on this list mostly.
Hell yea brother ! That's how you do it 🤙 Perfect set up
I'm on to rear axle shafts now, then front... RCVs would be a great addition to me.
The biggest thing is going to be lift tiers/ wheels and gears. I am going to replace other stuff as they go out, and it will be aluminum, and I plan on rock krawler adventure x 4.5 lift with the triangulated rear end. What do you think, and would I really need a drive shaft it's been told to me both ways, and if not right away, the next thing like I sed as things go bad
It's a Mojave
I agree w you, replace as necessary. I did that exactly initially (lift, wheels, tires, gears) Anything 4 in and above I've been told is where a new front DS becomes necessary. I didn't right away and I can't see any reason you couldn't do the same. As you crawl you'll see opportunities for parts to be replaced. So much stuff out there! It's overwhelming at times lol
Yea i got my 37s on my other jeep a new steering pump after market big bor, new ball joints, welded c gussets, 5.13 gears, recalibration ,chip, new steering fox stabilizer, 6 inch lift, drive shaft, break calipers with new power stop breaks, heavy duty tie rod, heavy duty drag link, bump stops , 2.0 fox shocks, spacers for tires , high jack
Must of spent about 30k on up grades
The steering pump will go off and you will have to keep realigning your car
Ya, my steering is being pushed to its limits currently. I'd definitely consider an upgrade for it.
Your build is bad ass ! Lots of great additions. Man I haven't even addressed brakes !!!
Lol it never ends right ?!
Will there be any different with the ball joints an knuckles with the 2023 mojave. I know they have better parts than the Rubicon in that area but not much else
I'm not sure honestly, I haven't seen or talked w anyone w a 23 Mojave. I'd expect they would. Man they are so bad ass
Hey man, I’m new to the Jeep brand, I was wondering what PSI would my 37s need to be at for the tire warning light to stop showing? Hope to hear from you soon!
Generally anything below 28 psi my light comes on. If you have 37s you also need to change the tire size diameter in the computer so your speedometer will be accurate. (You may already have, but if not then...)
You can use a Tazer or J scan and it will also let you set the tire psi you want (so the light wont come one anymore). So you could set it at 20, 25, 28.. literally any number you want. (Tazer mini not tazer lite)
Also PSI can differ greatly depending on tire load rating etc.
Look up "How to Chalk test tires" to find the ideal PS for your tire. That will help you dial it in for even tire wear 👍🏼
These trucks have much bigger steering and suspension pieces than past jeeps, if you break or wear them out in a few thousand miles you probably need to slow down on speed bumps or something, I had a tj on 35s just regeared with lockers and id Baja blast it and jumped it a few times and never needed up steering or ball joints for the 80k I had it for, these trucks got d44 that are modern and can work fine with 37s
Thanks for saving me a ton of money
It's adding up fast lol thanks for watching
Great vid!
What do you think about portal axles??
Thank you in advance 🙏🏻
Thanks. Man honestly I'm just starting to journey down that rabbit hole. I don't have any experience w them or many others yet. I still need to upgrade mine
Thanks for this. Good info. This just makes me not get 37's. Mojaves can upgrade without any mods to 35's....think that's the best bet for me.
Thanks for watching. im just trying to help others thinking about it lol
given another opportunity, i believe i would pick 35s for my next build 👍🏼
Your 4.10s areperfect on the Mojave 👍🏼those are awesome jeeps
What if you want to run 37 but don’t plan on wheeling it just doing it for esthetics cause you like the way it looks. Can you run 37s without upgrading all the stuff for road only riding ?
For sure. My vid is more of what's going to wear out eventually. I'd drive it and swap out parts if and when they need addressed. Otherwise send it and have fun
If I’m just using it for a mall crawler and never taking it off-road will it be ok to not replace that stuff
Absolutely, just replace as you need to. If you go easy and dont beat on it you can have those parts last Awhile 👍🏼
Thanks for the info,I definitely won’t be going for 37s
If you aren't doing trails and just want this setup, is all the extra necessary? Because i just want a mall crawler. Will everything go bad with?
I'd just add as you need it honestly. If you get a tire that isn't too heavy, you will be good for awhile esp if you don't wheel it. My vid is more for the rock crawling/ off road focused enthusiast. Enjoy and have fun
I think I will upgrade to 35's on my Rubicon when the factory 33's tires wear out... then we will see. Maybe 37's aren't worth the trouble.
35s are great, and keep your 4.10 gears. Even w 37s im spending more than I ever anticipated. Rubicon is the way to go, you have a great jeep from the get go
I just got 37s. Haven’t done anything to it besides that. What should be step one? Lift kit and steering?
Absolutely steering IMO
Tie rod and drag link asap.
If it's lifted add a track bar, otherwise send it and replace as / if necessary 🤙
Have fun, 37s can go over so much !
Great video.. what about mall crawlers . Do they need all that work also?? Thanks
No not really. If you aren't hard on it, then the parts will last much much longer. My friend has 40s w 373s and runs all stock steering and ball joints. His performance is down, but he's a mall crawler and takes it easy so everything is doing fine. Most people just replace as needed.
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Thanks so much for the info good to know people with some knowledge I b following u on u chanel thanks 0lllllll0
I appreciate it. I'm still learning but I try to help pass along helpful info to help others.
New vids coming soon 👀
I will install a big brake kit. I don’t think the factory brake is enough for the 37”.
So far it's been enough.. just barely for quick emergency stops. You definitely would notice an improvement w bigger brake kit
I want 37x12.5 on a 4” inch lift on my Willys.
Do you think it would be ok to wait one year before a regear if it’s 90% Highway driven with absolutely zero rock crawling?
No issues at all. Heck it may not be a big deal to you based on driving style. Esp if you have max tow pkg w 4.10s.
I have a friend w 40s and 373s for over 2 years now. He's a mall crawler and it's fine for him. You would be surprised how few people regear
@@TXJeepDad Haha thanks, I couldn’t imagine 40s! I’ll probably get the same Rusty’s advanced 4” lift you got. What additional parts did you get, like tie rod or drag link?
Actually in the shop right now getting RPM 2.5 tie rod and drag link combo, dynatrac HD ball joints, synergy sector ector shaft brace. We shall see how it works out. Very beefy for off road action
@@TXJeepDad Has he done any additional upgrades past the 40s?
Not really when his lift was lower. Had all OEM up front and drive shaft etc.
Sounds like the average situation. Wanting to look cool before you are actually cool. Build the base first. Or just hand the shop $20,000 and let ‘em do it all right.
need this video for an engine swap next
Man that woukd be awesome! Esp a nice beefy sounding V8 👌 only thing the JT needs in its lineup is the 392 option
Hey brother hoping you can give me further insight on the steering upgrades. I have a Gladiator with 37x13.5R17. Since changing of the wheel steering is so sloppy. A loose wheel is what I can describe it best as. What would be something you would recommend to stiffen up the feel of the wheel/ response when turning
Thank you so much in advance. New to the bigger wheel game would love some feedback
I appreciate you watching,
Have you swapped out the factory Drag Link and factory Tie rod yet? (Factory steering components) if not Id start there. The factory parts just can't handle the weight of the 37s for long.
For me I instantly knew I was going to have to change OEM stuff fast. My steering is awful now. Next Monday I'm getting 2.5 ton RPM tie rod and drag link installed and I'll do an update vid w results. I also am swapping out the ball joints, adding sector shaft brace and new steering stabilizer.
If you have a shop you trust near you, ask them about diff parts I've suggested and they can help guide and install too
Also some brands of steering components to consider but not limited too
Yeti
Metalcloak
Core 4x4
Rock Krawler
RPM
Fusion
SYNERGY
Steer Smart
I was also thinking about the psi of your 37s. If it's high they will have you all over as well. Chalk testing helped me
What are your thoughts on running them on a willys sport completely stock as a weekend beach goer?
You'll be good 👍🏼 honestly I'd just add parts if and when you need them. Especially if the 37s you run aren't super heavy, parts won't wear as fast.
@@TXJeepDad Thanks man! I am planning on running the Yokohama Geolander M/Ts
Those are great tires. You're gonna be set
Damn bro! I have a Willy’s and was thinking about 37’s also but now I think I’m just gonna go with 35’s also I commute about 60 miles a day. Do you think I’ll need to re-gear?
Not everyone regears, heck most my buddies w 4.10 s aren't going to even on 37s and 38s. Another friend on 40s and 373s for 2 years now and he hasnt replaced anything or regeared!
You'll be fine on 35s IMO
You'll be fine brother 👍🏼
I feel alot of this is if ur doing 37 and going off road who would go 37 if its that much work
You could honestly do most of this later, if at all, depending on how you drive. Esp if you don't beat on it, then the cash outlay isn't too bad for 37s
It looks cool but the gladiator barely has enough motor as is and the low torque numbers mean you have to put more money into gears on both ends.
Indeed. I'm running 5.13sfor that reason,my 373s were not up to the task.
just subscribed.... cuhs u really dont hold back on the knowledge
I appreciate the feedback! I try to be real and give honest info.
I buy all my own parts and I make no money doing this so no reason to lie right! 💯
Guys i got a question. So I have a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Sport S with an ecodiesel motor. I have a 2" mopar lift kit on it and i have installed rubicon fenders so i have more space between the wheen and the fender to allow me to put bigger wheels.
Question is because my jeep is not a rubicon and doesn't have the same gearing, what would i need to do to run 37" wheels? I really dont want 35's. If anyone knows, please let me know.
Just run it. As you do things where you need more power then consider regrearing. You don't have to do it right away or at all if it's not a concern for your driving style.
Especially that Eco ! It's a beast. I doubt you will have to regear as you already have a very capable set up. 😉
Your good, send it ! 37s or 35s would be perfect w that lift
@@TXJeepDad I don't do any wheeling and almost no offroad as I'm an old lady, I drive on pavement only. Rehearing costs some money. I just want to look cool. )). I don't abuse my vehicle. I drive slower than I should.
Honestly your mopar lift and some 35s would be perfect and look super cool 😎
@TXJeepDad I really like how Gladiator looks with 37's. I can probably wait a couple of months to collect a few more pension checks to get the re-gearing done. One problem would be getting in and out. It's not very easy to do at age 75. But I think it's doable.
As long as the 37s you get aren't too heavy, you will be good. Honestly. Just get a tazer to reprogram the computer for tire size and you are set. My 37" KO2 s barely measure 35.5 lol so not too tall. My 5.4 wife hops in ok 👍🏼
Save that 2K for something else you may need or want
What are the fuel economy on these Jeeps?
Depending on model and modifications etc as low as 12-14 mpgs like me (5.13 gears & 37s) or 22 mpgs or more in stock form
@@TXJeepDad 22 mpg at 70 mph with 4.56’s and 37’s. Ecodiesel is difference…
My front Fox shocks are junk. Terrible squeaking noise. Being replaced under warranty, glad my Mojave is stock as Jeep will reject warranty if they can. Over $8000 Canadian dollars.
Holy crap! Thats a lot of money, glad they are taking care of it for you. Mojaves are generally pretty solid.
Mine goes in the shop tmw for new goodies, unfortunately 100% outta pocket lol vids soon
I Like the height on the back..
Six inch drop hitch…
I definitely need a hitch. Any that you can recommend, I have very little towing or hitch experience
@@TXJeepDad I went through
Amazon for the hookup to the bumper..
Had to drill the bumper plastic for the bolt.. and hitch, 2” to 6” adjustable from harbor freight .. but your lift
Looks higher in the rear than my
Rough country 3.5”lift…
Oh gotcha. I'll keep that in mind, I appreciate the information
Damn! I don’t want 37 anymore 😆
BFG KO2S run small and are very light.. you could get away w them and prolong the new parts for awhile and still enjoy 37s 😀
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what kind of lift do you have?
I have the Metalcloak 3.5 Game Changer Lift on as of this year swapping from Rusty's 4 in kit.
A Willys is not suited for a build without having to dump a bunch of money into it. You would be better off getting a Rubicon or Mojave with Dana 44s.
I agree, it's definitely not a cheaper way to go. That having been said I'm pleased w how it's coming along. Axle shafts and lockers next up and then this build is done.
@@TXJeepDad If you're going to dump a bunch of money into it, try to see if a company can sponsor Dana 60s at cost.
The sport max tow package has dana 44s wide tracks. No lockers though...
Willys will be fine on 37's unless you're just beating the crap out of it.small lift kit and your fine. 35000 miles on mine zero issues
Is it hightop fender?
Just the standard sport fender (non rubicon)
toyo heavy tires
i think BFG better for jeeps
Indeed.. selling them soon 👍🏼
What was the total cost?
I'm going to do a breakdown video of my set up
Sure. But I don’t want to pay for them.
Way you bay a jeep. You make one.
Leave it stock!!
What about 35s?
You don't have to do all this for 35s. You can just replace components as they/ if they wear out. I have several buddies on 35s w everything else stock
@@TXJeepDad awesome! I'm on 35s now and about to put on a Clayton 2.5 overland plus and falcon shock's and just wondering. You're JT looks awesome! Fellow Texan. Here in Grand prairie. DFW
Dude you're going to love that set up. My next jeep w be on 35s too !
Texas brother 👍🏼
Thanks for the kind words
Go Big or Go Home 🇺🇲💪
I went home: Keeping my Gladiator stock.
-- BR
Absolutely nothing wrong w that. They are fun and capable as is too 👍🏼
@@TXJeepDad Yes...for me, my Gladiator (Rubicon) is way more capable than I'll likely ever need as-is/OEM stock, but if I ever DO need its full potential, it's there! Besides, when I go off-road I only do the roads/trails rated "easy" or "moderate," not the ones rated "difficult" (trail damage likely) or "extreme" (trail damage guaranteed) -- I don't find scratching, gouging,bending/breaking truck parts or rolling-over "fun" as many seem to I guess (given the DF/S things they do on their UA-cam channels). But mainly, as I was living in Colorado at the time (in TX now but may go back to CO in 2 years), even on the hwy I couldn't think of a BETTER vehicle to be in to get me home safely in a serious snowstorm/blizzard -- and the (big enough) 33" Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires are a huge reason.
"Jeep Wave"
-- BR
I'm positive if I had a rubicon from the jump, none of this would have happened until much later down the road. Lol I knew nothing when I bought my jeep. I thought it looked cool and the price was great 😆
I'm trying to convince my wife to relocate to CO. I'd have already moved if I had my way !
@@TXJeepDad The MAIN reason I'm back in TX s to "regroup" financially and be in a better position to BUY a property in CO (Colorado Springs) so I can go back and do that. That is, ONLY if housing prices there -- as well as the currently TOO HIGH mortgage interest rates (!) -- go WAY down. So I'm using the time here in TX to pay 2 things off so I have a way better DTI Ratio when I go in to a lender for a mortgage pre-qualification letter. I'm hoping by late 2025, home prices/apartment rentals (also very high in CO) -- AND said mortgage interest rate -- will then be in my "comfortable" ball-park. Otherwise, I guess I stay in TX and buy here instead. Only time will tell...but at least my Gladiator will be paid-off before then. No wife/kids to consider so I go wherever/do whatever I want -- and buy whatever I want (within my modest means, of course, not being "rich"). ;-)
Enjoy your Jeep!
"Jeep Wave"
-- BR
You need to level that thing out.
I also agree and swapped out this kit for a Metalcloak lift. It sits level and rides better now too. I learn the hard way!
@TXJeepDad nice. I just purchased a Gladiator, so I'm on my way.
@TXJeepDad I will get caught up on your videos. I definitely need some pointers. It's not my first 4x4, but it's my first Jeep.
You're ahead of me lol This is my 1st 4x4 and jeep. So much I have learned and still need to learn. But man these things are a blast ! I waited way too long !
In order words, buy a F250
Or get a Rubicon (already upgraded)instead of a Willy’s 🤷♂️
Bet. Great idea, however 60K plus wasn't an option for me
So easily 10k
If your spouse asks say no way, much less.. but shoot now I've added
DL / TR / lift / tires / gears / ball joints/ steering shaft brace, steering stabilizer... I'm well over 10K.. next are axle shafts / lockers front and rear. Then it's done 😆
What a negative Nelly. I put 37s on my Gladiator Rubicon with aftermarket offset wheels then put the Mopar lift in the following month. No rubbing problems even before the lift. Guess you should start with something a little better next time. 8000 miles and no play in anything not to mention I have the 100,000 mile warranty to cover all the crap you are crying about.
Man!!!! You answered every question I needed to hear. I’ve been trying to decide on 37’s vs 35’s. I’m gonna stick with a 2.5” metal cloak GC on 35’s. Any suggestions on additions or changes with this setup? Thanks brother. Awesome.
Heck I'd run it and as you feel a beefy or upgraded component can help, then make the move. I find having a local experienced shop to bounce stuff off of is very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask questions and get various opinions before you mod.
I wasted some cash early one by not doing enough research.
Most importantly have fun! 35s won't beat up as bad as 37s and 40s do 👍🏼
Glad I don't have to worry about regearing with my ecodiesel gladiator.
So true! Those diesels get down! Torque for days
I got a re gear quote from a shop in Canada and was ...get ready lol....5k!!!! We get ripped for everything up here
Holy cow ! Wow that's a huge difference!
A year? But only 3000 miles on the setup? Seems odd.