i’m an 18 year old girl, who still lives with with her parents and not a chance of me having children for years, yet i’m ADDICTED to your channel. Love u and you family xx
Haha love this Erin. We are away on holiday, anyone that has recognised me from UA-cam has been young girls so it's all good!! Thank you so much for watching xx
Haha thanks Salma. I genuinely think the biggest stress is getting on the plane, obviously 15 hours is a lot, perhaps we've lucked out with our kids! Thank you so much for watching xx
I did a 24 hour trip to Russia by myself , my kids are 4 and 2 yo. 3 planes , the longest was 10 hour flight. And what saved us was many brand new dollar store toys and snacks! (And movies of course) These are great ideas, thank you Emily!
Emily you always smiling and i jealous on that. Keep smiling all the time its so beatiful and you give ur kids great example for living life. U r d best!
You sure have every right to be so proud of your boys, they were absolute stars, they were so well behaved. Bless you Emily Greetings from South Africa
Your boys are fine gentleman, they're obviously being raised with the best of manners and thoughtfulness. You and Matt must be beyond proud of them period, but especially how well they did on the flight! Have an amazing holiday!
I love watching your travel/packing videos and I always rewatch them when I'm packing and before we travel. We went on holiday in mid July and it was the first time I felt I was really organized and not so anxious about the trip. You are an inspiration and a blessing Emily, especially to new mums like me 💝
You are very clever. 👍 you know your kids, what they need and the way of upbringing your kids is showing it. The childrens behaviour is reflecting you and your husband. Very cool!
Much needed! Going on our first international trip with a 4hr flight with my 18mo old and I'm stressing a bit! Will be binge watching all your travel videos!
the key is to not stress! Try to see the humour in anything stressful, even if you're boiling inside!! Enjoy your break. Thank you so much for watching xx
I have been watching you since you had 5,000 subscribers. You are just amazing and you are my inspiration. Albeit my channel isn't a patch on yours (obviously) but I have passion and you just inspire me to keep doing something I'm passionate about. I don't normally comment but you really do amaze & inspire me, as a Mother, and a successful business woman. Xxxx
The longest flight I’ve taken is 14 hours when my boy was 5 months old and your videos encourage me for future travel plans, now I can’t wait to watch videos during your stay in Turks and Caicos.
Thanks for more great travel tips Emily! We go on a 9 hour flight with our boys in two months and you’ve just reminded me to pre order their child meals on the plane 🙈😁. (So pleased you wore the second dress!! )👰 🙌. Beautiful!! x x
Omg I was at this resort with my family at the exact same time, and I saw you guys but I didn’t want to interrupt your vacation but we didn’t say in Italian village
love your videos so much and was wondering if you could do a video on how to find vacation deals for family especially large family. love from canada!!
Hi Nicha. I have been on at Matt about doing this video as he organises most of our holidays. I think the main bit of advice I have learnt if you have kids in school so are governed by the school holidays, is to book early as you don't tend to get too many actual deals in the school holidays if you leave in to last minute. I'll work on Matt for the video. Thank you so much for watching xx
This brought back lovely memories for me - I married my hubby here when my oldest son was nearly 2 (nearly 3 yrs ago now) Hope to go back one day! Hope you’re having a fab time xx
It's nice to see your kids entertaining each other! Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I don't bring toys on the flight for my toddler (15-months-old). We just pack lots of snacks! I found with my first kid that he tended not to play with the toys I packed, so we gave up on them.
Enjoy your holidays Emily with your adorable kids and husband!!!You so deserve it!!!You are a great mum and a so-down to earth person!!!Your family is very lucky to have you!!🐳🍹🍍🌞🌍
I remember growing up when I was 10 on a Qantas flight from Adelaide to England, 24hr. My mum, dad, my 12yo sister and my 5yo sister. All we got was a colouring in book, that’s it.😐 But I do remember being able to spend a good hour in the cockpit of the 747-338 jumbo jet. Was the greatest moment of my childhood life.😁
Awww hope you have a fantastic time gorgeous and for a minute there I thought you were going to say you were flying out to Sydney 🐨 I was like OMG!!!! but Turks and Caicos is beautiful too 💋
We will be travelling very soon from India to US and it’s going to be a super long flight 😢 I always get back to your vlogs again and again for suggestions. ❤❤ loads of love to you and your family
Thanks for sharing your hack tips and experiences, Emily. My oldest son was terrified the first time just me and he had traveled on a plane together. We were migrating to Africa from Europe, so not just a holiday and was originally a connect fight of 15 hours. But due to technical issues, had to rush to get a 12 hours straight flight. Now living with my husband as a family of four with a second son now 3yrs are more seasoned travelers. Unfortunately, my flight experience at Heathrow airport with just my oldest son who was 3 years at the time and is now 7 yrs didn't seem so smooth sailing :(. I had to leave the snacks and some of my luggage items I brought behind when going through the security gate as I over packed and went over the luggage weight allowance. I had to also rebuy snacks at duty-free due to water content restrictions! I didn't know there was a soft play area for kids at the airport! First time traveling with kids I found can be very stressful. More experienced parents sharing their experiences truly helps first-time parents which I was at the time. Wish I found info like this sooner :D. Although, I met the nices couple with a disabled child on the plane. They went out of their way to help me and my son carry the unorganized chaos we managed to salvage after security checks of the extra luggage I brought without a fancy suitcase, just my son's stroller which I used instead which got damaged in transit, puff. Wish I had the great idea of recording that experience to warn other parents out there!
Hi IM 8 (I'm on my dad's phone) and me and all my sisters are going on a 8 hour flight to Dubai and you have gave me ideas to do on the plane this is my 1st time watching to videos and I like it and I am going to download loads of games for the flight for my little sister who will be two when we go and anyway you have helped me loads to prepare ty :)
Hey Emily thanks so much for this, we're taking a shorter flight than what we're used to (I think the longest with 3 was 15 or 16hrs) we're flying to NY tomorrow with our 8, 6, 4 & 1 year old it'll be my baby boys first flight - I'm nervous!! Were flying home from Miami so a little longer, but the Gatwick to NY flight is only about 8hrs so not bad! 👍🏽
@@mrsemilynorris i really love watching you and your family whenever i have time.I even downloaded some of your videos so i can watch even im offline. May God guide you all always.
Hold you please do a video on the apps your kids (and you) like? I think its difficult to find good ones that are also age-appropriate in difficulty. (My boys are 5 and 7) Thanks for great videos 🤗 🤩💪
We fly to New Zealand next Easter and you have made it look so easy! Hopefully the thought is worse than doing it for us as well 🤞🏻Our eldest will be 6 and youngest 17months 😫
Wow that is a long journey but on elf my favourite places and I would love to take our boy one day. Enjoy you lucky things. Thank you so much for watching Sarah xx
Hi Emily, I love watching your videos always very helpful and useful giving good ideas and tips. Well done and keep up the good work. Can you please give the correct links for the smiggles colouring pens and also the lego board/lego for toddler? My boy is nearly 3 in November. Thanks
Hi Emily Thank you so much for all your helpful tips and tricks. Can I ask in regards to the snacks/entertainment you pack for your boys. Do you pack everything including snacks x 2 on account of the return flight. Xx
Thank you for all the tips! I’m going to travel 12 hours with a 3 and 8 year old. I’m thinking to buy the foot rest for my youngest one. Do you think I should buy one for my 8 year old too? Please help , thanks x
Thank you so much for your practical and relatable videos! I'm about to do a about a 11hr journey coming up with my 10month old. No idea how to entertain her onboard lol.d
Also, I’m traveling to Africa with my 2 year old and going there with all the snacks is fine. What do you do for the return flight when you don’t have access to a lot of your familiar snacks, etc. ?
Great video! What lego do you buy? My sons a similar age to Jackson and he’s only ever played with lego duplo so far as the age groups are usually 5+ for the other sets, I think he would enjoy the smaller bricks x
Does anyone know which airline was this? Footrest that makes flight chair a bed for kids is not approved by most airlines I just wonder if this was Super Family Friendly airline which was OK with it. We are planning a trip overseas and I want to prep and organize before the flight.
What I wouldn’t give to be able to take my son on a long haul flight now to meet his grandparents for the first time! Funny how covid has changed our perspective.
Hi! Your travel bed is an interesting one.. BA on their website say inflatables like that aren't allowed.. Have you ever been told you cant use it? We have a 2yr old we're taking to Orlando on BA and this would be ideal for him, but we're not sure if it's allowed!
i’m an 18 year old girl, who still lives with with her parents and not a chance of me having children for years, yet i’m ADDICTED to your channel. Love u and you family xx
Haha love this Erin. We are away on holiday, anyone that has recognised me from UA-cam has been young girls so it's all good!! Thank you so much for watching xx
Emily Norris Honestly Emily, my whole recommendation page is just your videos and my mum’s getting slightly worried that she might be a granny🙃x
Same but I am 14 😭😭
Same! But im younger than you 😂 😂 🤣
I just barely survive a 4 hour flight 🙈 15 hours that’s amazing 🙌🏽
Haha thanks Salma. I genuinely think the biggest stress is getting on the plane, obviously 15 hours is a lot, perhaps we've lucked out with our kids! Thank you so much for watching xx
@@rbnutwood2735 Haha great advice!! Thank you so much for watching xx
Emily Norris don’t sell yourself short, I’m sure the advance planning and organisation is making the difference nothing to do with luck ❤️
We might be taking my 3 year old (he will be almost 5 at the time of flight) on a 5 1/2 hour flight and I'm worried 😱
I love long haul flights
I did a 24 hour trip to Russia by myself , my kids are 4 and 2 yo. 3 planes , the longest was 10 hour flight. And what saved us was many brand new dollar store toys and snacks! (And movies of course) These are great ideas, thank you Emily!
Wow your brave 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
lulu belle thank you! I would certainly do it again! Planning ahead is a key!
Wow that is a long trip, go you! Thank you so much for watching xx
This video and this comment is giving so much strength to some people than you can imagine ❤
Taking my daughter on her first long flight Chicago to London soon and this is the video I've needed!!!
Wow enjoy London Melanie! Thank you so much for watching xx
We are off there soon too! I need tips!!!
You're a super mum. SO organised and your boys are an absolute credit to you and Matt. Have a wonderful time, it looks like paradise ! Xx
We are, thanks Caroline! Thank you so much for watching xx
Emily you always smiling and i jealous on that. Keep smiling all the time its so beatiful and you give ur kids great example for living life. U r d best!
Such kind words, thank you. Thank you so much for watching xx
You sure have every right to be so proud of your boys, they were absolute stars, they were so well behaved. Bless you Emily
Greetings from South Africa
Wow Thank you so much for watching from South Africa Aliciaxx
Look at that beautiful water! Hope your having an amazing time. You all looked amazing for your vow renewal x
Ah thanks Bear! We loved it. Thank you so much for watching xx
Your boys are fine gentleman, they're obviously being raised with the best of manners and thoughtfulness. You and Matt must be beyond proud of them period, but especially how well they did on the flight! Have an amazing holiday!
So proud Leah! Thank you so much for watching xx
You inspire me to be the best mummy I can be xxx
Ah so sweet Rebecca. Thank you so much for watching xx
Thank you! Great travel advice. About to embark on a trip from London to New Zealand with a rascally little 1 year old. Wish me luck!
Wow that is a long trip but I am jealous, would love to take the kids to NZ! Enjoy. Thank you so much for watching xx
I love watching your travel/packing videos and I always rewatch them when I'm packing and before we travel.
We went on holiday in mid July and it was the first time I felt I was really organized and not so anxious about the trip. You are an inspiration and a blessing Emily, especially to new mums like me 💝
You are such an amazing mom! And your boys are sooo good!
So excited for your holiday vlogs 😁
Thank you so much for watching Gemma xx
I am flying on my own with my 3 babes ages 4, 2, & 1 from heathrow London to flint Michigan and this video has soothed my soul lol thank you
You are very clever. 👍 you know your kids, what they need and the way of upbringing your kids is showing it. The childrens behaviour is reflecting you and your husband. Very cool!
Much needed! Going on our first international trip with a 4hr flight with my 18mo old and I'm stressing a bit! Will be binge watching all your travel videos!
the key is to not stress! Try to see the humour in anything stressful, even if you're boiling inside!! Enjoy your break. Thank you so much for watching xx
mtheron100 4 hours is actually a short trip. I fly three legs of a total of 16 hours. Be prepared and don't stress!
I think you always find it easy because you are always so prepared which helps so much ❤️
Wooow how amazing some airports have soft plays..! I need this for my trip with my littleone
I don't have kids, but i love to watch whatever you post!
Ah thank you. Thank you so much for watching xx
I have been watching you since you had 5,000 subscribers. You are just amazing and you are my inspiration. Albeit my channel isn't a patch on yours (obviously) but I have passion and you just inspire me to keep doing something I'm passionate about. I don't normally comment but you really do amaze & inspire me, as a Mother, and a successful business woman. Xxxx
Well done and well worth it!! Have a lovely holiday!!
Thank you so much for watching xx
Love your vlogs, Emily! They've helped me so much every time 💜 Thank you so much for this x
Thank you, that is so kind of you. Thank you for watching x
The longest flight I’ve taken is 14 hours when my boy was 5 months old and your videos encourage me for future travel plans, now I can’t wait to watch videos during your stay in Turks and Caicos.
Great tips Emily Your boys are so chilled & happy !!. Looks amazing , enjoy guys . Xx❤️
Thank you so much for watching Olivia xx
Thanks for more great travel tips Emily! We go on a 9 hour flight with our boys in two months and you’ve just reminded me to pre order their child meals on the plane 🙈😁. (So pleased you wore the second dress!! )👰 🙌. Beautiful!! x x
Enjoy Victoria! Thank you so much for watching xx
I’m going to punta Cana in 2 weeks! I have a zinc flute at 10 years old, I am quite tall but they are amazing, have a fantastic holiday. 😄
You are all so cute. Thank you for all your tips !!! Five stars ⭐️
Omg I was at this resort with my family at the exact same time, and I saw you guys but I didn’t want to interrupt your vacation but we didn’t say in Italian village
love your videos so much and was wondering if you could do a video on how to find vacation deals for family especially large family. love from canada!!
Yes plaese🙏🤗
Hi Nicha. I have been on at Matt about doing this video as he organises most of our holidays. I think the main bit of advice I have learnt if you have kids in school so are governed by the school holidays, is to book early as you don't tend to get too many actual deals in the school holidays if you leave in to last minute.
I'll work on Matt for the video.
Thank you so much for watching xx
Amazing how u actually handle n keep them occupied for such long flight...this actually helps mom's like us to know some tips thanx a lot..luv luv 🤗🤗🤗
Thank you so much for watching xx
Loved your video not easy travelling with kids I’m going London soon and these videos are very helpful ❤
This brought back lovely memories for me - I married my hubby here when my oldest son was nearly 2 (nearly 3 yrs ago now) Hope to go back one day! Hope you’re having a fab time xx
It's nice to see your kids entertaining each other! Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I don't bring toys on the flight for my toddler (15-months-old). We just pack lots of snacks! I found with my first kid that he tended not to play with the toys I packed, so we gave up on them.
Omg looks so beautiful. The ocea reminds me of the Maldives ...incredible
You have such well behaved little men 💙💙💙 And that ocean is GORGEOUS!! 🌊
Thank you so much for watching xx
Cornwall has beautiful clear turquoise water 😍
I have seen pictures and we have to go there with the boys. Do you live there? Thank you so much for watching xx
Love your channel and currently living in Turks and Caicos. Your family will love Beaches Turks and Caicos and all the Sesame Street characters!!
Wow lucky you Jodiann!! We have fallen in love with T&C! Thank you so much for watching xx
Your family is so adorable! So many great travel tips
omg your super mommy☺️how do you do it with 3 kids on a plane. your the best! watching your channel from New York.
With help from Matt!! Thank you so much for watching Tiffany from New York! xx
Enjoy your holidays Emily with your adorable kids and husband!!!You so deserve it!!!You are a great mum and a so-down to earth person!!!Your family is very lucky to have you!!🐳🍹🍍🌞🌍
I remember growing up when I was 10 on a Qantas flight from Adelaide to England, 24hr. My mum, dad, my 12yo sister and my 5yo sister. All we got was a colouring in book, that’s it.😐 But I do remember being able to spend a good hour in the cockpit of the 747-338 jumbo jet. Was the greatest moment of my childhood life.😁
I’ve never been on an airplane and I’m going Saturday 11th and I’m so excited. I’m going to Spain btw I love you ❤️x
Awww hope you have a fantastic time gorgeous and for a minute there I thought you were going to say you were flying out to Sydney 🐨 I was like OMG!!!! but Turks and Caicos is beautiful too 💋
I love watching your travel vids
I love your travel videos!!!!
Thank you so much for watching xx
I love these video Hacks and travels
Thanks Emily for you tips, going on a trip with a 2 &3 year old
Awesome video. Super sweet. What's up with the ziploc bag you gave Jackson? Was it taped at the top? Thanks for being such a good momma role model 😊🧡🌻
No it wasn't taped, nothing up with it I don't think. Thank you so much for watching xx
Your voice is just so soothing ♥️♥️
Ah thanks! Thank you so much for watching Leah xx
Emily Norris you’re so kind and i love your house ♥️♥️
We will be travelling very soon from India to US and it’s going to be a super long flight 😢 I always get back to your vlogs again and again for suggestions. ❤❤ loads of love to you and your family
Makes me so nervous watching this but you bossed it as always Emily 💪 and yes you too Matt lol
Thank you so much for watching Kristina xx
Thanks for sharing your hack tips and experiences, Emily. My oldest son was terrified the first time just me and he had traveled on a plane together. We were migrating to Africa from Europe, so not just a holiday and was originally a connect fight of 15 hours. But due to technical issues, had to rush to get a 12 hours straight flight. Now living with my husband as a family of four with a second son now 3yrs are more seasoned travelers. Unfortunately, my flight experience at Heathrow airport with just my oldest son who was 3 years at the time and is now 7 yrs didn't seem so smooth sailing :(. I had to leave the snacks and some of my luggage items I brought behind when going through the security gate as I over packed and went over the luggage weight allowance. I had to also rebuy snacks at duty-free due to water content restrictions! I didn't know there was a soft play area for kids at the airport! First time traveling with kids I found can be very stressful. More experienced parents sharing their experiences truly helps first-time parents which I was at the time. Wish I found info like this sooner :D. Although, I met the nices couple with a disabled child on the plane. They went out of their way to help me and my son carry the unorganized chaos we managed to salvage after security checks of the extra luggage I brought without a fancy suitcase, just my son's stroller which I used instead which got damaged in transit, puff. Wish I had the great idea of recording that experience to warn other parents out there!
Hi IM 8 (I'm on my dad's phone) and me and all my sisters are going on a 8 hour flight to Dubai and you have gave me ideas to do on the plane this is my 1st time watching to videos and I like it and I am going to download loads of games for the flight for my little sister who will be two when we go and anyway you have helped me loads to prepare ty :)
You should definitely make it to Mauritius Island Emily. The sea is as amazing and you will love it here. Enjoy yourselves😉
Thank you so much for watching xx
You are such an amazing mom
Love your videos
Have a nice trip 😍😍😍
Thank you so much for watching xx
Hey can you link the details where you got the inflatable seat I really need one😊❤
Brilliant video thanks
Thank you so much for watching Addie xx
Hi Emily i am your number on fan I love your morning routines
Lego in a ziplock bag is such a good idea! Stops it being loose at the bottom of the bag and having to fish it out 😅
Love this mother of three here need all the help possible
Thank you so much for watching xx
Hey Emily thanks so much for this, we're taking a shorter flight than what we're used to (I think the longest with 3 was 15 or 16hrs) we're flying to NY tomorrow with our 8, 6, 4 & 1 year old it'll be my baby boys first flight - I'm nervous!! Were flying home from Miami so a little longer, but the Gatwick to NY flight is only about 8hrs so not bad! 👍🏽
Wow! Thank you so much for watching and commenting more than once! xx
I’m am 11 years old but Im so addicted to you channel
Loving these travel vlogs Emily 😍
Your such superstars we have only been on one flight with our kids and I can’t imagine 15 hrs with them xx
Such an adorable kids...hello jackson!😊
Thank you so much for watching xx
@@mrsemilynorris i really love watching you and your family whenever i have time.I even downloaded some of your videos so i can watch even im offline. May God guide you all always.
Hold you please do a video on the apps your kids (and you) like?
I think its difficult to find good ones that are also age-appropriate in difficulty. (My boys are 5 and 7)
Thanks for great videos 🤗 🤩💪
intellecto kids is good for school starters. Thank you so much for watching xx
thank you for this ! very helpful !
Thank you so much for watching xx
We fly to New Zealand next Easter and you have made it look so easy! Hopefully the thought is worse than doing it for us as well 🤞🏻Our eldest will be 6 and youngest 17months 😫
Wow that is a long journey but on elf my favourite places and I would love to take our boy one day. Enjoy you lucky things. Thank you so much for watching Sarah xx
Going in 10 days time on a long haul flight and with my 1yr old and I'm scared 😫😫😫😫😫. Your boys are so calm. Have a lovely holiday
You'll be fine! Just think positive and have supplies! Thank you so much for watching xx
Thanks my dear. And I will try x
Hi Emily, I love watching your videos always very helpful and useful giving good ideas and tips. Well done and keep up the good work. Can you please give the correct links for the smiggles colouring pens and also the lego board/lego for toddler? My boy is nearly 3 in November. Thanks
Love your vids so much! Xx
Thank you so much for watching xx
Aw, we had our honeymoon there! 😍 Hope to go back one day...
Thank you so much for watching xx
Hi Emily
Thank you so much for all your helpful tips and tricks.
Can I ask in regards to the snacks/entertainment you pack for your boys. Do you pack everything including snacks x 2 on account of the return flight.
Xx
I love the Gatwick airport! 😍
I love airports but it is definitely a different experience since having kids! Thank you so much for watching Amanda xx
There such good boys Jacksons little face watching the TV so cute xxx
I know too cute. Thank you so much for watching Tracy xx
Love this vid where did you get the boys suitcase ilysm
They're by a brand called Flyte in the UK. I hoe this helps. Thank you so much for watching Leah xx
Emily Norris thank you
my son is 3 and we have two flights this year, one domestic and one internationally. what are your packing and seats tips could you give me. thanks
Thank you for all the tips! I’m going to travel 12 hours with a 3 and 8 year old. I’m thinking to buy the foot rest for my youngest one. Do you think I should buy one for my 8 year old too? Please help , thanks x
Thank you so much for your practical and relatable videos! I'm about to do a about a 11hr journey coming up with my 10month old. No idea how to entertain her onboard lol.d
Amazing, where are you going? Thank you so much for watching xx
Watching this in 2022. How cute was 2 year old Jackson 😍😍😍
next time try the Maldives.. the water color is prettier than this... u will never forget.. that's truly a slice of paradise on earth!!
Your such an amazing Supermom ✨
Thank you so much for watching xx
I worked here 2 yers and same flight I fly to turks...nice one.
Also, I’m traveling to Africa with my 2 year old and going there with all the snacks is fine. What do you do for the return flight when you don’t have access to a lot of your familiar snacks, etc. ?
How do you deal with jet lag?? I'm about to travel an intercontinental flight with a 18 month old.
Beautiful sea emily u r sooo lucky😉😊
Oh I forgot to mention I bought the inflatable footrest after seeing your last video - I hope it helps!
Thank you so much for watching Kavita xx
Hey Emily l really love your channel and hacks
AHHH THE BUNNY SHOW! I FORGOT THE NAME BUT IT WAS A CHILDHOOD!
Did you bring manual air pump for the foot rest?
How old are your boys? What age did they start maneuvering the scooter cases through the airport well?
i love this video
Thank you for watching x
Have a great holiday! You all deserve it ❤️
Thank you so much for watching Lauren xx
Great video! What lego do you buy? My sons a similar age to Jackson and he’s only ever played with lego duplo so far as the age groups are usually 5+ for the other sets, I think he would enjoy the smaller bricks x
Does anyone know which airline was this? Footrest that makes flight chair a bed for kids is not approved by most airlines I just wonder if this was Super Family Friendly airline which was OK with it. We are planning a trip overseas and I want to prep and organize before the flight.
British Airways.. 2:10
What I wouldn’t give to be able to take my son on a long haul flight now to meet his grandparents for the first time! Funny how covid has changed our perspective.
Thanks for this video. How do you download? My toddler watches a lot of YT kids and you cannot download 😱😱😱😱
God bless you the longest I've done with my kids is 3 hours! These are great ideas tho! ❤️
Thank you so much for watching xx
I needed this video
Thank you so much for watching xx
Hi! Your travel bed is an interesting one.. BA on their website say inflatables like that aren't allowed.. Have you ever been told you cant use it? We have a 2yr old we're taking to Orlando on BA and this would be ideal for him, but we're not sure if it's allowed!