Glacier melt in B.C. at 'shocking' levels
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Scientists say it's just a matter of time before a warming planet causes B.C.'s glaciers to melt away altogether.
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Why do they keep saying all these things will happen at the end of the century? This is not a linear progression but a geometric progression with many factors to be considered. Most climate models do not include important factors such as methane, a far more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2 which is currently being released from beneath the melting permafrost in the arctic. The warmer it is, the faster the permafrost will melt, releasing more methane. The more methane released, the warmer it gets which means the permafrost melts even faster. Instead of the end of the century, the real problems all over the world will be felt within a few years.
And methane is EATEN:
ua-cam.com/video/XEcnJFTxQcU/v-deo.htmlm9s - about methane gas in permafrosts
Methane STRONG greenhouse gas?
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it doesn't look like...
Numbers:
CO2 - 400 ppm vs 13 000 ppm of H2O. So factor of 32.5
Now the spectrum: 5% of total absorbtion.
REAL CO2 thermal influence? 0.03 x 5% = 0.0015...
@@WadcaWymiaru You miss that part about durability of GHG molecules in atmosphere.
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Linda P Agree not Being Factored In To Zx 15=?
Walking right on past large nuggets of gold.
Future changes are exponential, not linear, as their models show; Glaciers will disappear much sooner than 2100.
Imagine how shocking it would be watching a glacier growing before their eyes.
The world is going through a cycle
@@pth6060 Agreed.
This is happening now people! This isn't just a cycle! We all need to stop and think of our children's future we have failed them all and seriously condemned the future of humanity to failure and extinction! What can we do to change this? Is it too late? I'm so scared for the future...
and what model is your car?
Blah blah blah same old scare tactics. Weather was way worse thousands of years ago. When moon was closer to the earth
@Mike Walker That was long before humans had evolved.
You drive a car? Use any plastic? Take planes at times? Wear high tech clothing, or animal skins? Yes, me too, guilty. Sadly, humanity doesn't care.
@@johnperic6860 "It will be too late, unless you give the government your money so they can put it in their pockets"
I fixed that for you.
12,000 years ago, when a wave of colonists came to North America from Asia, there was a 2km thick glacier in Ontario where I live. Since then glaciers have disappeared and opened up huge amounts of land in the Northern Hemisphere to agriculture and habitation.
@Mr Cabot
Ad Hominem attacks are used by people who have no logic or facts to argue with.
I am a retired teacher so to return to school is out of the question.
My majors in Mathematics, Physics, Geology, and Geophysics have versed me well in the cyclical nature of the interglacial period we are presently in.
Annnd we have had a significant impact on their recession through anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution.
I think I'll build my house on the side of a mountain below a glacier!
West coast U.S.A is where hot air goes north to replace cold air freezing the rest of the continental land mass
the pictures from the glaciers in europe are located wrong, the first picture was from the rhone glacier, the others i couldn‘t recognize
During the Eocene, lasting from 56 to 33.9 million years ago, the planet warmed to an incredible degree. We've found evidence of palm trees in Alaska from that era. The entire planet, besides the very tips of the Arctic and Antarctic, was probably covered in rainforests, much of it tropical.
And what are you trying to say? People have pushed natural cycles beyond what is natural and to a point that ecosystems dont have the time to adapt or respond adequately. We are linked to ecosystem collapses that we have caused.
@@spenbour16 I think what you both are addressing is realistic and valid.
It is an evidenced (and inescapable) occurrence, and YES... humans have accelerated the natural cycle and pattern for it.
Could that heating effect be caused by the radiation from Fukushima?
No, lol
Out of date because 2015 was 5 years ago. Please post an update
Why is this shocking? You've been having a warning for the last 40 years. And this is shocking? What would be shocking? Polar bears not going extinct and the ice caps not melting. Kidding me. It's like all of humanity is in a state of denial.
These are the same people who tell me there is no Virus it is made up!
your right. nothing is shocking anymore... shits been going on for years...now all of a sudden .bang, what the hell is going on..?
I say thank goodness most people are oblivious to the abject stark bleakness that is ahead. the longer people sleep the less panic and chaos
They've been spewing this bullshit for decades and everything is fine. First it was Acid rain, then it was You won't be able to breathe the air, then is was a new Ice Age, then it was the Polar Bears would go extinct and all the Glaciers will be gone, then it was global warming, not wit's climate change. Why should we believe them , when they have literally been wrong about everything?
The only thing these people are really concerned about is where their next pay check is going to come from.
If they were really concerned all these activists would be calling out India and China and places that are spewing out the most pollution, not places like the U.S. which have relatively low emissions. It's all about money and control. These so called scientists and Politicians are getting rich off of this crap.
How bout an update on this issue. No.
how about now?!
Laurentide Ice sheet remnants? Been melting for 12,000 years?
6yrs later and we’re facing ecological collapse.
And nothing’s changed.
Smh.
This is not going to continue at a linear course. The word exponential means each and every year will be worse.
so stop eating meat and stop driving a car.
The world will burn up ,not just get warmer. Read the bible.
My cousin who is a biochemist told me that glaciers dampen earthquakes from erupting. That’s why we are having more earthquakes!
Hm. Hadn't heard of that before. Interesting. Thanks.
What is the name of this glacier?
'' BOB...
I read that hydro dams in BC are not renewable energy. Once the glaciers melt no more water therefore no more power. So therefore hydro dams are non renewable just like oil and gas. As per down stream freash water supply. It is best to go to wind solar and coal and gas or even nuclear. We need to keep the water behind the dams for drinking water and agriculture. Otherwise hydro would be a seasonal production producing power only at spring runoff.
its nature, get over it
Brainless left don't get that we HAD an ice age... what does that tell them??
Once they all melt away we can get the Logging Crews in and get the timber out. Earth First, well log the other planets later.
Ever heard of image stabilization? The shaky-cam does a good job of inducing motion-sickness, but doesn't help with the presentation of the report. I got less than a minute into it and had to stop watching.
I want to drink the water. lol it looks so good.
duhh..you could...that would be cool.
Pathetic. This report is 10 years too late. Journalists should be sued alongside Exxon.
+Chuffered FUoogle Differed prosecution? I want *jail time*.
It's at least 30 years too late.
Solder Joe Exactly. Never underestimate the media's bias towards vested interests. They should be going the way of pterodactyls.
His property. Hmm seem even the land thinks different.
The idea that climate ever stayed the same is our first problem
This is SUCH a tough subject. So many people have their entire lives and skills structured around the extracting and processing of the Earth's natural resources. Any plan, has to be a real plan, that includes restructuring without creating human distress & poverty. I understand the spectrum and the argument, but the right solutions are what will allow the proper backing through legislation, and funding from the big banks here. I'm glad that the UN has taken this time to reinforce the need to world awareness to this subject. A miniature mock-up, implementing potential future weather condition simulations, should be initiated & recorded proving the solutions and potential growth for them. Something the size of a small domed community. Being able to simulate the increased heat, and test the solutions, will really broaden the care to this topic. It isn't enough to just make people aware, but we have to make people care about the planet. Simulating within a dome town, may prove to be a critical weight for the "going clean" side of the scaled argument. Remember, there are people in some cold places saying they don't mind global warming. This issue is harder than world peace. Proper approach is key. Construction benefits, job creation benefits, proven sustainability potential, proven future waste solutions, proven food adjustment planning, potential future lifespan costs calculated to scales, & technology gains are just few things needed to be proven in order to win this argument. Achieving these results on a smaller, more controlled scale, may just win the power of the world people over! My prayer is FOR these solutions, and FOR a BETTER WORLD!! I'm KEVIN NAPIER, an THAT is MY 2 CENTS!
So hydo dams are not renewable. no ice , no water , electricity.
The Himalayan Glacier gives rise to 7 of Asia's largest rivers, providing water for over 1.5 billion people. The Himalayan Glacier is expected to melt by 2035 -- the same for other Glaciers world-wide.
Scientists have been saying for years. Environmentalists have been saying for years. But no one wants to hear it. Nothing to see here. It's depressing how much damage has been done in such a short time. Even more depressing is that we could have done something years ago.
amber dawn Well said. 100+++
Obama tried to , Cadet Bone Spurs threw that ALL away !!!!!!!!
Half the population in the states gives a damn, and the other either dose not give a damn or is shouting "Woo more glacier free land to Drill or frack for oil!" I look at my kids and I fear for them, but half of everyone else cant see beyond right here and right now!
@@thewizard2465 Don't you mean stop breeding !
+Marco Polo
"what would you have done to make the sun LESS Hotter" The Sun has been less hotter for decades but is in a long term trend up, so it will be hotter.
" Gore said " He is NOT a scientist, he over done it but the problem is still critical now since the planet can't keep up and absorbe half of our co2 emission any more, it will tip over from a stabile carbon flux to a positive (negative for us).
Released methan will speed it up, and then the co2 will increase even if we stop everything on earth. If things had been done in time, it had been enough to reduse fossile fuel consumption with 50% as we did where I live, it costed some tax money but it gave knowledge and better health.
Now I think it's too late and the costs for the climate change will be much much higher than the 50% reduction. Look forward to starvation and spolied vacations.
Stop drilling into them
Very sad
I want to swim in glacier water that would be amazing. The glacier is never coming back
How do you feel about...??? Why take the job if it makes you sad? I thought this was a science report not morning sofa TV.
"how do you feel" is the word they use when spreading propaganda, because the facts don't support their claims. The whole Trump impeachment was all about feelings because they didn't have and actual facts to prove their case.
Great video, photography and coverage but I can't bring myself to like or dislike it because it's quite tragic how we, as humans are heating up the planet with continued industrialization and a so called demand for growth.
There is a lot to be said for slowing down and living with less that has nothing to do with "economics" and everything to do with the "environment".
Is anyone willing to slow down anything harmful or unnecessary that they do to lessen the demand on mother earth?
Deanna yes there are lots of us - were called alternates !
isn´t it funny, how WE are called "alternates" when it has only been a few hundred years since THEY started to exploit the earth? How long have people been living on this planet and working hard for their living? So actually "they" are the alternates with their experiment how fast the earth can be destroyed. And we are the ones who have to remind the majority and set an example.
wake up ! Humans are not heating up the Earth !!!!!!!!!!
Stopped working at a blast furnace, stopped burning gas to heat my home. Here were i live my appartment doesnt get colder then 17.0 degrees celcius.
Sold my car and travel by bike or public transport.
@Mr Cabot Totally with you on allmost everything. Don't drive any car. We've got great public transportation in Denmark. Solar Panels, yes. Allmost never eat meat. Once every other month or so. Other solutions for the other questions. Just wanted to ad a question. Do you buy presents or give things you've allready got but don't really need or use?
I wonder if he loses his job when all the ice melt
Yep... then he will get a job that proves global cooling.
When? You mean if. They've been wrong on EVERYTHING for the past 40 years, so what makes you think they are going to be right this time?
If I believed all of this bullshit I heard while growing up, we would all be freezing, our skin would peel off when it rains and we would all need a respirator to breathe the air. Not freezing, stood in the rain yesterday and I still have my skin, and I can breathe fine without a respirator.
It's not shocking at all . I heard 40 yrs ago that I. 2012 it would be like this so guess what in 5 hrs it will be almost gone just a trickle left I'm afraid
In 5 yrs l mean
The earth was at its warmest way before we even got here. Just going through a warm period. It’ll get cold again. It’s weather it goes through cycles. Nothing more to it than that
@Mrs Cabot it's true, however we humans are accelerating the warming in the heating cycle
*weather
don't worry, they'll be back!!! sooner than you think
The coastal peoples' oral history, "in the beginning it was all ice and water, with only a narrow strip of shoreline"...happens every Grand Solar Minimum, such as the one we are going into right now.
During a solar minimum up to half of North America freezes up and some goes offline agriculturally, while the west has a warmer and drier winters for a bit. And this is lined up to be a big one either this cycle or starting next cycle by 11 years from now. It looks bad already, crop losses and so on. The jet stream in the direction it's going now, south along the Rocky Mountains, is the reason we on the coast are warmer now and the east is cold. Decent weather since the Minoan Warm Period had made Alaska agricultural for more than 3800 years, until recently in fact, around 562 A.D.'s "comet". The sea dikes are almost intact on both sides of Beringia. The north has been obviously cooling, can't farm there now although we had for a long time.....here are Greenland's ice core temperatures from the glacial epicenter:
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We aren't going to stop our carbon output any time soon so we better look after natures little furry glacier replacements - the beaver.
You realize co2 is what keeps plants alive, right? Don't they teach that in school anymore?
Is that red blob the one that's connected to the super volcano sitting inland Yosemite Hmmm
Existential crisis of mammoth proportions...
So what if they shrink and melt. That is natural the eb and flow of the relationship of the Sun & Earth and Moon. Co2 etc. helps plant life Canada was a rain forest
Best case scenario, we could slow it, but not stop it. Those who choose denial, fall to fear. Fear causes irrationality etc....
I think we could stop and reverse it--but that would require a world-wide shrinking population.
atheistcable a shrinking population will not help stop climate change, let alone reverse it. Climate change has already started and the problems we're facing now were created by the fossil fuels that were burned decades ago. With the amount of greenhouse gases that have already been emitted, every human could disappear off the face of the planet this instant and climate change would still keep getting worse. This will keep getting worse for centuries as we've left it too late to change. It won't be our grandchildren's problem, or even our children's, it will be ours. This will happen to rich and poor alike within most of our lifetimes.
"In just 50 years, the world’s population has more than doubled to over 7.4 billion people. That’s more than 7.4 billion bodies that need to be fed, clothed, and kept warm, all requiring a large amount of energy. Alongside this consumption, these 7.4 billion people are also producing vast quantities of waste."
--population education.org | "How does Population Growth impact Climate Change?" By Katie Luoma | November 1, 2016
Linda P, I take it you are anti-Choice.
atheistcable I was not implying that the size of the world's population had no effect on climate change, only that it is now irrelevant to stopping climate change. Climate change is happening now and has been building up for as long as we've been burning fossil fuels. If we had limited the growth of our population before the industrial revolution started, or soon after, we would have had more time to stop this juggernaut we have created. However we didn't and it has progressed too fast and too far, so cutting back the population will no longer help. I agree that letting our population increase to such a ridiculous size was a huge mistake. Unfortunately, like any species that breeds more than their environment can support, nature will rectify the situation.
Whoo hoo. We're all moving to Alaska. Yo babe. We're going to be neighbors in thru sense.
Its all about hpw much emotion you can whip up. Okeeeee dokeee Think about how much plants LOVE CO2 so give them more. Go green bra
I love all the comments. Funny how most aren't based on fact but rather someone's opinion. Yes things are melting ..Yes Henny Penny. You might try moving "facts" you are quoted with the words like "Might" and "Could" into the opinion column instead of the fact column.
The rich, wealthy and politicians who are motivated by money are resistant to do what is needed. Be brave and do what is needed.
Those bastards sell us cars and nike shoes.... damn those people
Plus plastic pollution wont do the oceans any good.time to build house boats and lot of them.
These glaciers are not "at risk" of disappearing, as this piece claims. They are doomed to disappear soon, because the conditions causing their retreat have and will continue through the end of the century. Warming effects from over a century of burning fossil fuels, and from other causes, have delayed effects. Even if all human-caused warming activities stopped instantly, past emissions will sustain existing warming trends for decades.
That alone will destroy what is left of BC's glaciers.
The fact that human-caused warming activities are still increasing has sealed the fates of most of the planet's glaciers, including B.C's.
Admit it, and figure out how to cope with the loss of this resource, and the others that will disappear when the glaciers go away, instead of pretending that it might not happen.
By 2020 this will become ice free
Nope.
"punished"? how dramatic and unncessary. We do not know the history of the planet and we very well could be experiecing normal conditions. But, that doesn't fill the fear based drama quot, eh
When Canada was one huge glacier I wonder if people stood there and cried about it lol
Sad to see so many 'the climate has always changed' type comments. You are displaying your ignorance of the science and what the scientific community has been saying. If you are really interested in educating yourself I recommend a channel called Potholer54, a channel based on peer reviewed science, not wishful thinking or contrarianism. Human driven climate change is a FACT, and its the RATE of change that matters.
Does anyone know who Hannibal was.. and what he marched across the Alps.......? When temperatures were way hotter than they are now...?
Are you kidding? Dude who lost everything LIVED precisely were this disaster wiped out his life but he never saw it coming (except 20/20 hindsite) ????? ... this was NOT about"Global-warming" but was merely an unfortunate event that I hope he had insurance to cover....
🚫 bombing on earth
Anybody still thinks it's a hoax?
I know Trump still does.
I live/work around several people that believe it's all a lie. There's no talking to them - they know what they know and that's all there is to it.
No. However I do believe it to be natural, and related to an anomaly effecting the discourse of earths magnetic polar ends.
I'm no genius but I sense a correlation between the two coldest spots on the planet, and where the magnetic poles happen to be situated.
And seeing as the magnetic ends are not where they "should be". Climate change makes perfect sense.
However Climate change infringes on 100's of trillions of dollars worth of worldly investments. "It must be stopped" even if it's natural.
It is so much easier to blame someone else than take action. As someone who has driven a bicycle since the mid 90's, life without a car is doable, but not easy.
It diminishes ones opportunities in life and once in your life becomes almost impossible to give up. Public transit and subsidized long distance routes are needed asap,
and also, do you know? Why does co2 trap heat exactly. correlation is not causation. the AGW faith based community has a ways to go. Hint: 'Joseph von Fraunhofer'
Slackman says:
"No. However I do believe it to be natural, .."
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Burning fossil fuel is natural?
"I'm no genius but.."
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No need to mention.
I can see that.
lol
Imagine how shocking it's going to be next century when everything is still pretty much the same!
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Every thing causes global warming....and global warming causes everything else....WTF?
Over population on the globe is the probelm period. Reducing populations is the only way to save the environment.
DJ You should volunteer first to be reduced.
All liberals should do the honourable thing and commit mass suicide.
5:32 did some scientist really name a climate event “the blob”? That’s so uncreative! Or maybe it is creative in its own way...
They are generally nerds so what do you expect? Perfectly descriptive word of a pool of warm water.
Too much human activity.
That chopper they where flying around was radio controlled right because there moaning about emissions and there coming in like there filming black hawk down too much fuel going into the atmosphere
Just like Indonesia, including volcanic activity.
What kind of emotional impact do they have on you? Is this science or head shrink 101.
Terry Janssen I live on the north end of Vancouver island since 1968 we don’t get as much rain .The rivers swamps creeks are receding . In the winter we could skate on ponds last time I skated on a pond 1996 .A hot summer day temp was 16/17 degrees since 2000s the temp has gone up into the low 20s call it what you want .Don’t sit back do something about it .
Uummm Disastrous? Really? It's disastrous for the world to return to what it was before the Ice age? Why is that disastrous?
Before the Ice Age it was like this last 100000 years.
FYI: there were many Ice Ages.
Hellloooo....Fukushima radiation(The Blob)
D Mars Don't thinks so. The amount of energy required to create the Blob is orders of magnitude beyond Fukushima's capabilities.
other than all of us committing suicide, I think the only thing to save some of these waters is to build a DAM or Levey around them.
Wonka Luv'z y'all anyway.
"Shocking". Why is it so shocking? Endless hyperbole and sensationalism being reinforced endlessly regarding this topic.
@Mr Cabot the earth has been warming for thousands of years a degree a year or so. 25k years ago alaska and russia were joined by land.
Mr Cabot are you saying the has not been warming for thousands of years?
Mr Cabot you mean those factories used to make your shoes, build the engine in your car, ship the produce you buy at the grocer? When you say man's crriminal behaviour, are you talking about your own?
Mr Cabot yes corporations polite the air but no less than you yourself are responsible?
You leftists havent yet figured out how to use that thing in your head. Instead you call us thinkers ignorant.
@Mr Cabot Firstly, why do you participate in the juvenile activity of attacking and insulting people who disagree with you? *"Why would anyone excuse corporations for destroying a planet, costing trillions in damages both past, present and future?"* This is a tiresome narrative. Corporations produce the goods and services that people want and need. It is the consumer who demands these goods and services and lines up to pay for them. It is the consumer that should invoke your anger and criticism. If you don't like oil stop purchasing the product and they won't produce it anymore.
This "destroying" of the planet is nonsense too. Life for humanity has steadily improved in an uninterrupted manner resulting from the marvels that the corporate world and human innovation has brought us. Vaccines, cures for disease, increased lifespan and leisure, lower deaths at birth, this list is endless. Leftists think that the people of the developed world have been sitting around in a hammock, eating grapes all day while throwing toxins at everybody.
Its ice of course it melts
Lies to fit the narrative.
And in 2019 the glaciers are back even bigger. Ha ha.
A handful, yes, but the vast majority (including those in BC) are still shrinking. I know it can be hard to understand, but "a glacier in Greenland is growing this year" does not mean "all the glaciers are growing this year"
Don't worry the glaciers will come back. It's the cycle of world climate change. Not co2 .
Ignoramus
We lost all of our glaciers between 10-12,000 years ago where I live in Wisconsin. A mile thick cover of ice was above my head where I live.
Our glaciers traveled as far as southern Illinois. We have no glaciers in Wisconsin and Illinois. A warming planet melted our massive ice
cover. Man had no impact what so ever on the shrinking of the North American ice sheet. Our world is changing around us constantly.
Land forms and lakes including the Great Lakes are the result of our glaciers. They are reminders of what was once here. So now science says
man is the culprit and it’s greenhouse gases. Maybe, maybe not ! Personally, I believe man has had some impact but forces beyond man are
continuing the warming of our planet and are beyond our control.
6th extinction 2028 drought famine methane burb
7.18 Sure, build your home out of wood.
It will be pretty.,. strong? xD
Gosh, there are so many rocks 8:43
If building homes out of stone was only posible,
like the way we do in Europe for the passed thousands of years.,.
Been there done that. Rocks don't flot and you can't burn the them to stay warm.
'' THE EARTH IS RETURNING TOO THE SUN,FROM WHICH IT CAME,MANY MILLION'S OF YEAR'S AGO:SIMPLE,EASY:AND I'M NOT WRITTING A BOOK,OR''RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE:> PROFFESSOR> [DJB]
No need to worry, our Dear Leader has explained that it's all a hoax. All hail the Dear Leader.
Glaciers in bc account for an extremely negligible raise in ocean levels. On the other hand, it frees up land and lets forests start to grow.
+Debate Are you in grade school? If so please study glaciology and visit these snowfields and glaciers before they are gone if you have a sense of history. Vancouver Island's last glacier looks pretty long gone soon.
and your point is?
_'Survey says?'_ *[X]*
It is precisely the land base glaciers that _will_ have an effect on sea level rise because of their ice melt. Unlike their ocean glacier counterparts (like those in the Antarctic), land glaciers do not displace any sea water, so the water that is locked up in land locked glacial ice, will add to sea level rise. Furthermore, this is not only a BC problem. The Himalaya's in Asia, the Alps in Europe - in all the mountainous regions of the planet where glaciers exist - are all experiencing the same rapid decline in their glacial ice fields. It's not only a BC issue.
Then you forget (ignore perhaps?) that BC glaciers maintain river water levels in BC (and on the prairies) throughout the summer months. Once those glaciers are gone, our rivers will run dry by the end of the summer depriving spawning salmon in September/October of reaching their spawning grounds to spawn. And what trickle of water there may be in some of those rivers will be too warm for the returning salmon to survive the journey, so you can kiss the salmon goodbye.
and finally... _"... it frees up land and lets forests start to grow."_ Wrong again. The overwhelming majority of BC glaciers are at altitudes *_above the tree line_* (there's a reason it's called a _tree line_ ).
seriously dude? doesn't matter if BC's glaciers melt because it'll free up land? Don't you know that they indicate what is happening the world over? or did you even think before you posted that?
+Debate Please submit your amazing result to a peer reviewed science journal in hydrology or geology.
Maybe if they would stop drilling all those holes in the ice....
drilling holes in ice won't make a difference smart one
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Dextamartijn I have trouble taking seriously comments on scientific subjects from someone who doesn't know how to work the caps lock key.