Sir, I have 2 motor for Y-axis, installed opposite side with each other, so, is this method still work? Because in my understanding, the direction signals for these to motors must be reversed to keep the axis runs in one direction.
Do you know whether you can add a limit switch for the cloned axis? I've seen someone asking this question about a year ago and I wonder if you found something out since then.
Amazing Video! But I want to be able to clone x and y axis (meaning 2 x axis steppers and 2 y axis steppers with one z axis stepper) I am wondering how to approach this because I am a beginner in this field.
Can i run 2 motors for x axies and 2 motors for Y axies using this shield and GRBL controller ? # Controlling 2motors in (X ) axies using X driver and A driver (clone) ports in the shield. # Controlling 2motors in (Y ) axies using Y driver and Z driver ports in the shield My idea is using one driver for each stepper motor is that possible with UNO Shield v3 GRBL controller Project ( hot wair cutter cnc for cutting fome ) only i need 2 axies (X and Y)
Hello, sorry for my english. Using the GRBL controller when sending the command to the Y would have to be replicated in A, right? But it does not work. Do you have any other solution?
Thank u...you ar solving my problem, i got error on then Y axis (thw stepper seems not run smoothly on CNC shield, and i cloned it on A axis, with jumpering as your video, and it works the Y axis now moved on A axis , thank u (but why it can happened ? the Y axis on cnc board not works as i mentioned above ? ) was there an error while fabrication ?
Im glad it helped :) I reccon you used the same a4988 driver? If thats the case, it could be a manufacturing issue. Try changing over the drivers an wires between axis and se if you get the same error :)
shiva dwivedi Hi, if you use the CNC shield like I do in this video you see how I do it here. For the direction you will need to switch two of the poles of one stepper and find the correct one
Hi, ues this is possible. It may happen that you have to download another sketch formthe arduino than GRBL. You can find many different sketches to control stepper motors on github.com for free use :) good luck
Hi willy,i have one question,but i'll give some info first,i'm designing a cnc board from the usb to serial convertor to the diy arduino then to the stepper drivers,i will be using the 28BYJ-48 type steppers converted to 4 wire bi-polar setting,do you know if one A4988 can drive two of these steppers,i would think this would be fine as both motors will use separate lead screws so they will turn in the same direction for each axis keeping each axis more balanced due to cutting forces moving from side to side and back to front on each axis as the machine opperates,i cant find any details for the running current for the 28BYJ-48 steppers,though a few hundred mA each,even 500mA per moter should be fine,if each A4988 can drive 2 small steppers at a time. Any help will be most appreciated,thanks.
The A4988 can i theory drive two steppers at once if the steppers dont demand to much current (A) BUT I would recommend using one driver for each stepper. I find that running two steppers on one driver makes the driver and steppers prone to skipp or miss stepps in the gcode. You also have the promblem that they might stall much easier. So if you plan on making a cnc machine, I would really go for one driver per stepper, maby eaven upgrade them 😁
with the low price of the A4988s and as i'm going to produce my own circuit board ,also i think the arduino should be able to drive two controllers per axis,though i'll look into this aspect,i will find out the fan out of the arduino digital outputs,i don't know if it's TTL or cmos,but driving a buffer should be no bother if need be,though i'd rather drive the stepper controllers direct,'cos i'm a lazy bugger and want it yesterday. Being a lazy bugger design technician i can do but want to build my amplifiers than make the maker,so to speak. cheers for the reply,step skipping (unless you fred astaire singing in the rain)is no good.All points taken on board(copper clad). Take care across the northern sea from us here in blighty(the scottish bit for me).
But when you are using 2 motors for your x axis, and they are on opposite sides, how do you clone the Xdriver onto the Adriver so it will turn opposite directions of A?
The rx, tx is for comunication with computer over USB. I think these pins are hardwired to the USB com. The scl and sda is for serial data and serial clock comunication. If you google this you will get more in depth answers 👍
hi thanks for this video , i want to clone 2 axis both x and y axis as 2 motors on x and 2 motors on y can you share any way of doing it ,i am using same cnc shield
On this cnc shield you can only clone one of the axis out on the extra axis. if you want to clone more then one axis I recommend that you get other stepper drivers and wire the seperatly
Thanks for your reply , okay i will get another stepper diver but the point is how i can clone that with remaining one axis can , what else i need other than stepper diver for this please share some details regarding connection ...............thanks
@@gauravwadhwa2224 Hi, no problem. If you check out this video of me wiring up my TB6560 and the wiring diagram, you probably can get some tips and pointers on how to clone and wire your machine. Let me know! :-) ua-cam.com/video/Oy8vDJTGCY4/v-deo.html
Hello.If I have to clone the Y axis I have to connect the two pins together, the blue one and the yellow one. If the 4 pins of the motor must be connected in the 4 pins for each motor, where should the two pins (connected together) be connected blue and yellow?Can you send me a picture with wires that I must do? Thank you
It all gets explained in the video. If you see this diagram on my webpage: willysgaragenorway.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cncshieldCLONE.jpg You see that the 4 pins from the motor should be connected to the stepper driver called"A". The the blue and the yellow pins where its marked "y" should just be connected to each other. The two blue pins together and the two yellow pins together. Do you understand?
This is how you connect the wires if you want to clone the z-axis. Its the same procedure for the y-axis :-) willysgaragenorway.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cncshield-axis.jpg
Can I connect Y axis pins to Z axis pins ?. I have two stepper motors and wish to connect one of them to Y axis, and the other to z axis , and have both of these steppers act as Y AXIS. Leaving A axis for other usage.
Hi willy, i have one question,how to find out stepper motor cables identification(A+,A-,B+,B-). i'm using nema17 and cable colours are (Black,Green,Blue,Red) thanks
It all depends on what kind of spindle you have, on my machine I do not use the spindle pins because I start the spindle manually. What kind of spindle do you have??
Balaji venkat27598 the spindleEnable can only be used if you have some sort of relay control (5volts) and the direction if you have a VDF (variable frequens control)
Hi, Do you know how to use a limit switch with the cloned motor? For example, I use dual Y motors via the cloning feature. I would like to use auto squaring, however, I do not know how to hook up the second limit switch for the cloned motor. Any help would be great. Thank you for your time.
That is something I would like to do myself but I have not done any research on the subject. I guess it can be difficult usin an Arduino and GRBL? Im not sure, let me know if you find a solution to this :)
If you use these controllers instead of the cnc shield, you can clone whatever axis you want, as many times as you want ua-cam.com/video/Oy8vDJTGCY4/v-deo.html
how to control spindle with cnc shield, i am asking about wire connection not for software, when i connect wire on "spndir" spindle not start, anybody can help me to solve this issue?
is this also correct way ? connect 2 motor parallel and connect into one driver ( current one motor wiring is 1 2 3 4 then just change second motor to 3 4 1 2)
Thankyou! Most demos only show the X axis cloning, and I wasn't sure about the yellow pins for doing the Y.
All clear now.
Thanks! Clear and to the point, saved me some money!
Thats good, thanks :)
At last - someone who knows how to do it! Thank you very much.
Hehe, no problem. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Brilliant - thank you. I know it seems like a simple problem to explain but if it is giving anyone a problem this helps a lot.
Thank you :) 👍
You have all the solutions i need!! Amazing video with great clarity 😊
Finally! Thanks a lot !!!! I have been looking for THIS solution during 3 days. It worked for me. Great
Miguel Beltran Hi, I'm glad you figured it out ;) Thanks for watching! 😀
it really helped me thanks. I also changed the clone motor wiring by connecting A+ to B + A- to B - so it rotates in opposite direction
Phpdude Thanks and no problem 👍
Yes. You connect 12 V with red, black with ground and yellow to spindle or z+ pin depending the shield version (3 or 3.1)
Sir, I have 2 motor for Y-axis, installed opposite side with each other, so, is this method still work? Because in my understanding, the direction signals for these to motors must be reversed to keep the axis runs in one direction.
Hi. Did you get a response to your question? I would like to know if I could put a stepper on both ends of the same ball screw.
Finally see commentary instead of obnoxious music
Almost forgot to ask: Does this still work if I use external dm542 drivers, not onboard A4988 drivers?
I assume it does.
Thanks
Do you know whether you can add a limit switch for the cloned axis?
I've seen someone asking this question about a year ago and I wonder if you found something out since then.
Amazing Video! But I want to be able to clone x and y axis (meaning 2 x axis steppers and 2 y axis steppers with one z axis stepper) I am wondering how to approach this because I am a beginner in this field.
You could get a second cnc shield and drivers and connect gnd, enable and step/direction to the master cnc shield.
I did as you did, but I'm having a problem. Motor A's speed is not the same as motor Y's Do you have to adjust the settings from PC??
Please reply 🙏
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Can i run 2 motors for x axies and 2 motors for Y axies using this shield and GRBL controller ?
# Controlling 2motors in (X ) axies using
X driver and A driver (clone) ports in the shield.
# Controlling 2motors in (Y ) axies using Y driver and Z driver ports in the shield
My idea is using one driver for each stepper motor is that possible with
UNO
Shield v3
GRBL controller
Project ( hot wair cutter cnc for cutting fome ) only i need 2 axies (X and Y)
I think that may be easier achieved if not using the shield. Only wire the stepper motor drivers directly from the arduino 👍
Hello, sorry for my english. Using the GRBL controller when sending the command to the Y would have to be replicated in A, right? But it does not work. Do you have any other solution?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.. Could you re-phrase?
I need 2 y-axis outputs so by doing this I can make the x-axis do the same as my y-axis ?????
Is this possible with the ramps 1.4 board using the 2 extruder drivers for cnc builds?
I am not familiar with that bord
Thank u...you ar solving my problem, i got error on then Y axis (thw stepper seems not run smoothly on CNC shield, and i cloned it on A axis, with jumpering as your video, and it works the Y axis now moved on A axis , thank u
(but why it can happened ? the Y axis on cnc board not works as i mentioned above ? ) was there an error while fabrication ?
Im glad it helped :)
I reccon you used the same a4988 driver?
If thats the case, it could be a manufacturing issue.
Try changing over the drivers an wires between axis and se if you get the same error :)
And how can I make it so that A (auxiliary) can work independently, without cloning any axis?
how can i drive 2 steppers for one axis to have more accuracy
please tell me how to connect it with driver and set the directions and steps
shiva dwivedi Hi, if you use the CNC shield like I do in this video you see how I do it here. For the direction you will need to switch two of the poles of one stepper and find the correct one
is it possible to controll the movements (for example X axis ) via external buttons ?
Hi, ues this is possible. It may happen that you have to download another sketch formthe arduino than GRBL. You can find many different sketches to control stepper motors on github.com for free use :) good luck
perfect...thanks
Hi willy,i have one question,but i'll give some info first,i'm designing a cnc board from the usb to serial convertor to the diy arduino then to the stepper drivers,i will be using the 28BYJ-48 type steppers converted to 4 wire bi-polar setting,do you know if one A4988 can drive two of these steppers,i would think this would be fine as both motors will use separate lead screws so they will turn in the same direction for each axis keeping each axis more balanced due to cutting forces moving from side to side and back to front on each axis as the machine opperates,i cant find any details for the running current for the 28BYJ-48 steppers,though a few hundred mA each,even 500mA per moter should be fine,if each A4988 can drive 2 small steppers at a time.
Any help will be most appreciated,thanks.
The A4988 can i theory drive two steppers at once if the steppers dont demand to much current (A) BUT I would recommend using one driver for each stepper. I find that running two steppers on one driver makes the driver and steppers prone to skipp or miss stepps in the gcode. You also have the promblem that they might stall much easier.
So if you plan on making a cnc machine, I would really go for one driver per stepper, maby eaven upgrade them 😁
with the low price of the A4988s and as i'm going to produce my own circuit board ,also i think the arduino should be able to drive two controllers per axis,though i'll look into this aspect,i will find out the fan out of the arduino digital outputs,i don't know if it's TTL or cmos,but driving a buffer should be no bother if need be,though i'd rather drive the stepper controllers direct,'cos i'm a lazy bugger and want it yesterday.
Being a lazy bugger design technician i can do but want to build my amplifiers than make the maker,so to speak.
cheers for the reply,step skipping (unless you fred astaire singing in the rain)is no good.All points taken on board(copper clad).
Take care across the northern sea from us here in blighty(the scottish bit for me).
exactly what I needed. Thank you so much!
No problem 😀👍
Thank you very much
No problem, thanks for watching :)
Does this trick work when I have installed DRV 8825 driver ?
usha kamat Yes, this «trick» works on all drivers if you use the CNC shield on the Arduino :)
thank you very much sir.
But when you are using 2 motors for your x axis, and they are on opposite sides, how do you clone the Xdriver onto the Adriver so it will turn opposite directions of A?
Pim S Hi, you can do that with the wiring. Just switch the poles around :-) Good luck
Great ! Thanks a lot !
No problemo
Could you please explain the pins which above the end stops . Rx,scl,tx,sda
Please reply for the questions sir
🔊🔊
The rx, tx is for comunication with computer over USB. I think these pins are hardwired to the USB com.
The scl and sda is for serial data and serial clock comunication.
If you google this you will get more in depth answers 👍
Sorry for late reply
@@WillysGarageNorway okay thanks for reply sir
hi thanks for this video , i want to clone 2 axis both x and y axis as 2 motors on x and 2 motors on y can you share any way of doing it ,i am using same cnc shield
On this cnc shield you can only clone one of the axis out on the extra axis. if you want to clone more then one axis I recommend that you get other stepper drivers and wire the seperatly
Thanks for your reply , okay i will get another stepper diver but the point is how i can clone that with remaining one axis can , what else i need other than stepper diver for this please share some details regarding connection ...............thanks
@@gauravwadhwa2224 Hi, no problem. If you check out this video of me wiring up my TB6560 and the wiring diagram, you probably can get some tips and pointers on how to clone and wire your machine. Let me know! :-)
ua-cam.com/video/Oy8vDJTGCY4/v-deo.html
Newbie question. Does this mean the two motors on the same axis will stay in sync?
Yes 👍😁
Thank you I was searching for usage of 'A'. Is there a way to use X,Y,Z,A seperately?
Unfortunately the A axis can only be used as a clone to x, y or z. Thanks for watching 😀
U can do it, using some soldered wire and replace the spindle pin location or other pin avail, and set pin in grbl setting
How to run
Two Axis parallel with different command for both the axis
Then they are not parallel. That means its two different axis?
How are people using 300w spindles? no one ever shows that part thx.
Hello.If I have to clone the Y axis I have to connect the two pins together, the blue one and the yellow one. If the 4 pins of the motor must be connected in the 4 pins for each motor, where should the two pins (connected together) be connected blue and yellow?Can you send me a picture with wires that I must do? Thank you
It all gets explained in the video. If you see this diagram on my webpage: willysgaragenorway.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cncshieldCLONE.jpg
You see that the 4 pins from the motor should be connected to the stepper driver called"A".
The the blue and the yellow pins where its marked "y" should just be connected to each other. The two blue pins together and the two yellow pins together. Do you understand?
This is how you connect the wires if you want to clone the z-axis. Its the same procedure for the y-axis :-)
willysgaragenorway.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cncshield-axis.jpg
Yes, it's ok. Thank you.
Can I connect Y axis pins to Z axis pins ?. I have two stepper motors and wish to connect one of them to Y axis, and the other to z axis , and have both of these steppers act as Y AXIS. Leaving A axis for other usage.
Hi willy, i have one question,how to find out stepper motor cables identification(A+,A-,B+,B-). i'm using nema17 and cable colours are (Black,Green,Blue,Red) thanks
Where to connect the spindle enable And spindle direction pins sir
It all depends on what kind of spindle you have, on my machine I do not use the spindle pins because I start the spindle manually. What kind of spindle do you have??
@@WillysGarageNorway I having DC motor as spindle sir
Balaji venkat27598 the spindleEnable can only be used if you have some sort of relay control (5volts) and the direction if you have a VDF (variable frequens control)
@@WillysGarageNorway finally I understand sir. But how to control in universal g code sender for enabling spindle direction and enable sir
Wonderfull. Thanks to have resolve my problem
No problem!! 😀👍 And thanks for watching
Hi, Do you know how to use a limit switch with the cloned motor? For example, I use dual Y motors via the cloning feature. I would like to use auto squaring, however, I do not know how to hook up the second limit switch for the cloned motor. Any help would be great. Thank you for your time.
That is something I would like to do myself but I have not done any research on the subject. I guess it can be difficult usin an Arduino and GRBL? Im not sure, let me know if you find a solution to this :)
thanks for the video
No problem :) Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you...appreciated
I have the arduino uno and four drivers TB6600 from China. How can i connect two step motors parallel without the CNC shield?
You also can use 2 jumpers from an old harddrive ;-)
Yeah, thats true! :) thanks for the tips
Wowwww thank you so muchhh, can i use jumper instead?
No probs :)
@@WillysGarageNorway I have a question, Can I clone 2 axis at the same time?
@@RyanRyan-ym7yi Yes, but not on the CNC shield itself. Then you need external stepper motor drivers
could this work for 3d printers x y z and then the 4th for the extruder?
How can I use the shield without using grbl??
abdul karim halai what are you using it for?
I am using just to play around ..
what is the ttl port pin? how i connect 3 wire laser?
I have zero experience with laser so I am not sure where to connect it. Have you figured it out??
What are application of pins just below the reset button sir
You can use those pins if you want to use external stepper motor drivers like the TB6560 og TB6600
@@WillysGarageNorway very very. Nice explanation sir.thank you
Very good!!!
Thanks :-)
Great as always, Thank you !
Mohamed Amine BIDA Thanks for watching :-)
Good thank you
No problem, thanks for watching :)
Why don't just connect the wires in parallel ?Just like the ramps z axis
Do you mean using one stepper motor driver on two stepper motors?
@@WillysGarageNorway yes
You can do that but then you will loose tourqe and performance on both stepper motors
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can i clone x and y axis? to work as a pair? thanks
You van only clone one axis :)
But in the g code you can "clone" the axis
@@WillysGarageNorway gonna try to find more, any link or video where I can getore info about this posibility? Thank you
If you use these controllers instead of the cnc shield, you can clone whatever axis you want, as many times as you want
ua-cam.com/video/Oy8vDJTGCY4/v-deo.html
how to control spindle with cnc shield, i am asking about wire connection not for software,
when i connect wire on "spndir" spindle not start,
anybody can help me to solve this issue?
Great tutorial thank you very much
You kann do it also per Software, but thanks for such Idee -Share🥳
Thanks, good information!!
Stephen James You are welcome, sir. And thanks for watching :-)
Thanks for sharing
is this also correct way ? connect 2 motor parallel and connect into one driver ( current one motor wiring is 1 2 3 4 then just change second motor to 3 4 1 2)
Raghu Devaganatti It is a posebilety to connect two stepper motors on one stepper driver. Personaly I would use one stepper driver per motor :)
Thank you
if i clone with x axis with 'A' driver then motor will rotate opposite direction or what ( i am thinking to use 6mm gt2 belt)
Raghu Devaganatti the motor should not rotate the opposite way. But you can change the direction by switching the phases og the wires :-) good luck
Thank you sir
Raghu Devaganatti Your welcome
Thank you!
No problem, thanks for watching:)
Thanks for your help
thank you
No problem 😀👍
not working both motor i connected
Hello sir what is d 12 and d13 pin in cnc Sheid and also tell how to
C onnect servo with audrino cncsheild
Why you won't reply
D12 spindle enable
D13 spindle direction
Im not sure how to connect servos
@@WillysGarageNorway where to connect these pin . Could you tell where to connect and explain in application based
Thanks for your response
Please reply for this
Tank you good job
Thanks man :)
Thanks:)
Thanks a lot!!
You are welcome!! :)
thank you
Thanks for watching :) 👍