"The ball decides what shot you are going to hit, not you, just because you want to hit a certain shot." An amazing amount of wisdom in this statement! This single gem of wisdom was worth the whole video.
You need to be careful with that mindset, because then you become predictable. You always have options. What the ball does is reduce the ammount of them you have
Yesterday I had a match with the guy who was super defensive, fast and mostly hit "junk" balls, moon balls etc. I was losing 0:2 because of my own mistakes, but then remembered this video and won 6 games straight! Thank you so much for the great content and advices! Wish you all the best in life and good luck in you career! You are making people's life better! Keep going!
the problem is that the average players does not have the volleys or over heads to close points out. most amateur players, even some in the 4.5 range struggle with closing points with junk ballers because junk ballers keep the ball high and slow..so dont matter what you hit they have the time to come back to the middle of the court. and most of these junk ballers are really good at hitting lobs and passing shots because of years of playing with this style of game . that is what makes it so hard to beat pushers. and then if you give them control by reducing pace they start hitting lobs and drop shots and make you run all over the court because good pushers have accurate shot making even if the ball is going 10 mph.
True. The only answers are to improve overheads and net play or settle in for a long physical grind - apply constant pressure until their fitness goes. But then you need better fitness for that to work.
I'm a simple man, I see Karue, I click, I like. Great topic, one that has caused a fair share of personal PTSD as I too often get lured into the go for stupid big shots down the middle, instead of creating tactical angles.
I love how both players keep their swings fast, but confident, deep, and with plenty of margin for error. Almost every shot is 3ft above from the top of the net.
Hi, I'm a junk baller. I'm 53 and never had proper tennis instruction... Thank you for giving me tips on how to keep beating "much better players" than me.
Hey Karue, next time could you do a video on gym exercises that pro tennis players do? During the cold winter months I am trying to strengthen my whole body (legs, core, upper body) so I have better balance, stability, and explosiveness on the court. Thanks for all the amazing videos so far.
This is sooo helpful, Im a 5.0 player but always have harder time playing against players below 4.0 because of unforced errors, this video not only cleared up why that's happening but also how to deal with it
I have watched this video a few times before. Today I rewatched it before a game against a junkballer whom I have lost against two times. Today I won :)
this is a great video, at club level you always get a lot of nothing balls/defensive/moon balls and we have a tendency to go for the winning and miss it, I will try this drill out, thanks
Great video. I love these point playing tips! I was watching the upcoming Italian talent Lorenzo Musetti this week in a Challenger in Turkey. The guy is the opposite in every aspect to his fellow countrymam Jannik Sinner. Technically he is crazy good. A single handed backhand that matches that of Roger and Wawrinka. Hits dropshots all the time. Lots of variation. But that is exactly where his weakness lays. Namely: his decision making on important points. He simply had to many options. And like in this video...he often goes for a winner at balls he should just angle and like you say, set-up for the next shot. He lost the final btw in 3 sets after winning the first, but due to rain in the first three days he had to play up to three matches a day (including doubles) so I believe the physical aspect played a big role too in the loss.
@@KaruesellHQ Exactly, saw him hitting a underhand double fault on an important point 😆 Yet also hit a winning dropshot on setpoint against him. I like the unpredictability, yet like he says himself he needs to look at Sinner for some aspects :)
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Great video Karue. I am a 4.0 player and think I can apply this mindset to an opponent I recently played. I beat him first time out in a close USTA singles pro-set (1 set to 9) . But then he beat me the next time we played in another really close 1 set match. I will employ the deep, fairly high-bouncing junk ball straight down the middle as his MAIN shot. That is what he will go to if I am on the baseline and he is also on the baseline. this video seemed to apply to players who will occasionally throw you a junk ball as a defensive tactic, but will otherwise try to actually hit and win points. I think this is a great tactic, especially on the amateur level. It will just take even more focus and patience for me to apply this when every ball I receive is a junk ball-to take the ball early and create strategic angles -- thinking 2 or 3 steps ahead of how I want to attack.
The challenge for me is it's a completely different ball to hit. If I have been rallying and hitting nice topspin shots and I get something slow and high I will probably give it too much lift/depth and hit it long if I keep my same action going. You do a nice job of hitting it fairly flat at say 3.30 but that's a very different shot to the previous ones and for significantly weaker players like me it's a lower % shot because of how different it is - I haven't warmed it up so I go for it and mess it up. Now I've completely lost confidence, and push the next one back, do that one or two more times and they will start attacking the net when I do it. It's exactly the same with the second serve that just gets pushed in and sits up saying hit me. It's so different from the return off a fast serve that even though it looks really easy my attempts to hit it hard go wrong. I then loose confidence and push it back at which point they know they can really go for their first serves as I am going to give them the easiest return on the second.
Wow. You just outlined my issues exactly. Especially returning the slow loopy serves with no pace. I frequently over hit them or hit them into the net. Ug… Getting a bit better recently though.
I came back here from Winston’s video! You guys are doing a great job! I’ve been relaying your messages to my younger tennis friends. You are turning back the clock for me. Thank you guys
love the part @ 3:28 there are 2 high soft balls. just have to be patience and set your mind to setup the next shot and then next shot instead of rushing to crust the ball. great information.
this was such an educational video. I am totally guilty of someone who tries to do too much. My tennis IQ isn't great; I wish I could figure out a way to have someone watch my matches and help me strategize efficiently. Thanks for making this. One of the best tennis channels out there.
That's so counter-intuitive. One would think that a nothing-ball is a good opportunity to catch one's breath by not having to run as hard to it, and then knock the racket out of his hand with power.
Nice tips in general. Your partner seems to have a quite short forehand take-back, while his backhand take-back is just perfect! It's like he's hitting a serve return every time he hits a forehand ("abbreviated" swing).
Good video but didn’t address some other factors. I played a match yesterday, semifinal club tournament(I’m a solid 4.5) on green clay in windy conditions and very hot and humid. Guy I was playing is very craft and was clearly exhausted. So at 4-4 in the 2nd set he took off all pace and just started hitting true moon balls. I got impatient and with the windy conditions sailed a couple out at crucial moments and that was the decider. What I needed to do was focus a lot more on my footwork. Be much busier in my preparation and also to say to myself, hit deep down the middle with a lot of margin. Not think, I’ll hit “deep” because with wind and bounces that had become unpredictable, one can’t really hit deep off a high ball like that. Just good for thought for anyone facing similar conditions. Good for my opponent to have seen a way to win, but infuriating for me as I’m the better player and in much better physical shape.
Excelente video! Parabéns pelas dicas. Usar os ângulos e ter paciência pra decidir na hora certa (quando encurtar na linha do "T") é essencial no tênis!
Great explanation! I just wish i could hit those angled shots like you guys, my confidence level with those are pretty low. Just cant seem to find the right spot on the ball.
@My Tennis HQ would you agree that some players are better on the run than standing still? If so, how does your strategy change? For instance, I think you're deadlier off the court than in the middle of it.
Karue and Gui thanks for the videos, very clear, dynamic and instructive! And I didn’t realize you guys are both Brazilian! Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho!
I hated tennis until my son became a player/fanatic. He's 12 and progressing very well but once found these moon shot nothing balls really frustrating and got beat by 'inferior' (!) players who used them. He's got now to the stage of being able to cope with them - but not to turn them to his advantage. Hece this vid is an actual game changer and I'm going to go through it with him when he gets back from school. because i'm now a tennis convert....thanks liked and subbed
Great content. As an advanced player I really enjoy the breakdowns of situational shots, which is basically what tennis really is. Keep it going! Just a suggestion: you could even go deeper into hand/swingpath technicalities of certain shots. I think most people really struggle (defo me included) with a specific shot. In my case is making a good aggressive two handed backhand (especially cross court) when the ball is really calling for a finisher.I find the rotation of the body and the transfer of weight extremely tricky, or maybe I should just wait for the ball to drop a bit and make it a standard shot? Just food for thought hehe. Great job in building and developing this channel!
In this case you got a low&short-ish ball that you can easily attack. What would you do if your opponent just keeps pushing the ball back high and deep? My practice partner is really good at hitting high and deep on the run and can do it forever 😢. At our level (~4.0) a safer attack/set-up shot usually doesn't put up enough pressure, while one that does is usually not safe enough.
In my experience, the best tactic against pushers is to have the right mentality before you walk on the court. Accept that it is not going to be fun and look at it as a test of your consistency and control. Play with a margin of error and be patient. Use the lack of pace on their shots to practice knifing your slice deep and cross court. Try using your topspin second serve as a first serve, as this forces them to take a swing at the ball. When you then hit the serve hard, it catches them out. If you just blast your serve all the time, they get the feel on a block shot that they can place deep, which is super frustrating. When you do finally get an easy ball in a rally, commit to smashing it in a controlled way, with a margin for error. Do you not beat yourself up if you miss, as this will only make you more likely to miss next time. Having a negative mindset when you make mistakes, helps the pusher, so don't do it. Control, patience and variation are key.
oh it sooo refreshing to find this kind of channel, thanks million times:))....nothing balls are like black holes they suck up energy and if you miss them they hit on self esteem so hard lol....the thing is i still do not differentiate the type of balls well, this was helpful
Tried this training with a friend. Asked him to junk ball me. By adopting this strategy of recognizing the junk ball as an opportunity for a setup ball, I just crushed it ball after ball. I normally have a lot of problems with junk ballers. Now looking forward to meeting next in a match! LOVE your channel! One of the top ones for tennis!
Yes this could help but I actually think his Krypto is someone who can actually serve and volley and put away the smash. I’ve yet to see him play anyone with a strong net game.
don't need to serve & volley to beat MEP. just need to properly construct a point repeatedly. basically what this drill shows (even tho it doesn't show/practice closing in on the net to take away time).
I guess the thing that MEP is inadvertently teaching so many of TTs followers is the importance of consistency. How many of his opponents can engage in a rally where they hit >3 balls without making an unforced error? Certainly challenging me to up my consistency.
@@PaulMacklinAmazing He plays don’t miss tennis 🎾 even it means hitting soft/weak/unorthodox, which probably suits his quiet/low key demeanour. He is relatively quick on his feet and that helps him.
Thank you for your thoughtful, solid advice. I played a mixed doubles social comp last night and faced a number of junk balls. As you said, I just wanted to put them all away and did with a few but would have undoubtedly had a better overall result if I'd taken a step back and used this approach! Looking forward to hitting this drill with my son (if it ever stops raining here in Sydney!). Cheers and thank you - Dave
How I deal with nothing balls when I used to play this game. Instead of playing passive tennis and just letting the nothing ball control me instead I would do the opposite and just choose what shot selection to make on the nothing ball.... Use a Swinging Volley to put some heavy spin on it, Or Add alot more pace to it and use the reverse to clear the ball just over the netcord.. , Slice Chip it short down the line when the guy is off to one side of the court instead of hitting it hard and deep to the baseline corner down the line as some guys have the running extreme forehand to get to those extreme wide line corner balls, so i don't think a 10-20 foot gap is wide enough for some guys. especially if they have that running forehand, so I would also aim the nothing ball short wide shallow angle aiming towards the single corner sidelines of the service area instead of aiming deep down the baseline corner so I can open a up a bigger gap of 60-80 feet instead of just a leaving a gap of only just 10-20 feet which increases the risk that the wide line ball will get returned if the guy has the running reverse forehand. I wanted the gap more wider so the ball would not be returned back.
@@germanslice you always have a choice but the point the quote is trying to get across is that the shot that comes at you will inherently offer up a “better” or “preferred” option for your return...
@@jeantrudel292 well you can always slice drive all through the ball with the backhand and skim it with some pace low over the netcord. That type of flatter slice makes it a little more harder for the other guy to volley it as the ball will stay low once it crosses over the net and won't sit up high but it will dig up and skid into the player's feet and legs and start to push them backwards on the court because of the extra depth and pace that type of slice puts on the ball.. So Its not like the club slice you see often with the rec club amateur players when they slice the ball often these players have the strings facing the wrong direction so they come too much under the ball so the ball scoops up in the air going higher over the net and sits up in the court and falls short and has no bite behind it allowing the other guy to just step in with his forehand and just crush it. So I like using different options off these no pace nothing balls. Slice is good I think because if you have a good slice drive then you have the option to either jam up players feet with it or thread the needle to pass them. .
Your opponent (in white) court positioning at 7:24 was wrong, hence you had easier time; he should have been a step to your left off the middle, anticipating a cross court...What's your favorite racket? Which racket were you playing with in this video?
I usually will hit high topspin with sharp angle. Since their shots are slow, gives me more time to set up a sharp angled shot, and prepare to finish with inside out forehand 😁
In my opinion the reason why these "nothing balls" are difficult is a lot simpler: no one practices them. Tennis biggest problem is perception. Most players who THINK they're better than they are will always have problem with slower than usual balls. Most players who THINK they're worse will excel at slower balls. But most wont practice them at all.
Taking that ball early is something I wouldn’t have done and it surprised me because that gave the opponent no chance to reach it. It was super quick. I suppose that also has to do with the positioning at the time. If he would have hit the ball longer I suppose you would ve moved a bit further back but still try to get that ball early?
I like how their nothing ball is basically as finishing shot at my level. Nothing balls at 3.0-3.5 are way more dead than this. I think it's way harder to return and generate power on those than what is shown in the video.
Another high quality video and i really like the new logo!!! The lessons you provide is really helpful for all amateur players or maybe pro level as well. Thank you Karue as always!!! Can't wait for the nxt one!!! Also were u using vcore 95 in this video?
nice explanation. what do you think about trying to rush to volley on slow high balls , hit an attack volley and force him to hit a passing or lobe ? i noticed, on a recreational level, that moonballers are uncomfortable if you can go volley early.
Not a bad play, even taking it as a swing volley. Just beware that usually a junk baller enjoys a target, so if you come in they might be good at passing. Again, this isn't the rule, just something to take about. Tennis is so nuanced, you have to try stuff
@@KaruesellHQ sounds good. they love to have a target, but hate to have to hit risky shots... that's a bet , and i suppose you have to do what you're best at. thanks and keep posting awesome stuff :)
I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them every single time. Thanks! Especially this problem with nothing balls I’ve been dealing so much with being too impatient hitting it like it has winner potential every time and then putting too much effort and seeing the ball fly long. You have a great point about building up the game and challenge your opponent instead of trying to make a winner. Also I was wondering about the one other challenge I’m struggling much with - kinda familiar with this one - is the short “nothing balls” usually in the middle of the pitch. I feel like I have to take advantage being aggressive and attack but I often fail by putting the ball in the net or making it a bit too long. It looks so easy for you pros but for me and my friends it’s pretty damn hard finding consistency :) Any advice? Maybe others recognize the problem and make it worth making a video in the future? :) Thanks again man!
Lots of drills with your mates Christian. My son and I used to just play sets but now we do lots of drills before we play, focussing on our weaknesses before trying to incorporate them into our games. You get much better results from controlled repetition drilling like this than in a game situation. Good luck and cheers from Sydney - Dave
Could you please do a vid on the importance of the non racquet arm? It’s rare to see a vid on this. My biggest complaint is that I’m always forgetting to use it for switching the grip(laziness?) or keep me balanced. TIA
Excellent stuff. Allen's shots at the end of the video were the most inspiring. Kudos to his form... the split step, the toe point, the non-dominant hand across the to mention a few. But I noticed that Allen, much like my shots, doesn't quite have the ATP stroke look that yours does. I'm sure there's many other little things going on here that are harder to observe, but in my pause-replay frame by frame analysis of you and Allen - - - you seem to have your racket up and unit turn started before the ball crosses the net... and Allen seems to be at the same place by the time the ball is closer to reaching his service line. Are there any racket checkpoints you've seen used in the timing and racquet preparation?
I play way more often than him so I see the ball a bit faster which leads to quicker turns and adjustment. But yes it is important to start the unit turn early
Hi Karue, Love your strategy for capitalizing on nothing balls! How does the strategy change when you play doubles? Do we keep the same direction and go for an angle or is this too risky?
This rally between Moutet and Dimitrov yesterday, shows how difficult a nothing ball can be, even at the highest levels of tennis. The nothing balls from Moutet can be seen at 5:26 and 5:31 in the clip below (starts at the start of the point in question): ua-cam.com/video/bj0rxSo67iQ/v-deo.html
You using the Vcore all the time now? Thought you had switched to the Ezone? Nice video. There’s a couple of guys at my club that hit moonballers every single shot, I end up going harder and harder until I miss, Will deff give this tactic a try,
"The ball decides what shot you are going to hit, not you, just because you want to hit a certain shot." An amazing amount of wisdom in this statement! This single gem of wisdom was worth the whole video.
Haha appreciate the support
You need to be careful with that mindset, because then you become predictable. You always have options. What the ball does is reduce the ammount of them you have
Yesterday I had a match with the guy who was super defensive, fast and mostly hit "junk" balls, moon balls etc. I was losing 0:2 because of my own mistakes, but then remembered this video and won 6 games straight! Thank you so much for the great content and advices! Wish you all the best in life and good luck in you career! You are making people's life better! Keep going!
That is so awesome to hear! Excited to hear you guys are using our tips and succeeding! Best of luck man
for sure he made your opponent life worse so not all good
“It’s the ball that decides what you are gonna do, not you..” Fantastic 👏🏻
the problem is that the average players does not have the volleys or over heads to close points out. most amateur players, even some in the 4.5 range struggle with closing points with junk ballers because junk ballers keep the ball high and slow..so dont matter what you hit they have the time to come back to the middle of the court. and most of these junk ballers are really good at hitting lobs and passing shots because of years of playing with this style of game . that is what makes it so hard to beat pushers. and then if you give them control by reducing pace they start hitting lobs and drop shots and make you run all over the court because good pushers have accurate shot making even if the ball is going 10 mph.
True. The only answers are to improve overheads and net play or settle in for a long physical grind - apply constant pressure until their fitness goes. But then you need better fitness for that to work.
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I'm a simple man, I see Karue, I click, I like. Great topic, one that has caused a fair share of personal PTSD as I too often get lured into the go for stupid big shots down the middle, instead of creating tactical angles.
Yes, it's a hard shot. Also using the nothing ball is a good option to win some free points
I love how both players keep their swings fast, but confident, deep, and with plenty of margin for error. Almost every shot is 3ft above from the top of the net.
Hi, I'm a junk baller. I'm 53 and never had proper tennis instruction... Thank you for giving me tips on how to keep beating "much better players" than me.
Someone stop this man
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I put some laxative in his tea
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Hey Karue, next time could you do a video on gym exercises that pro tennis players do? During the cold winter months I am trying to strengthen my whole body (legs, core, upper body) so I have better balance, stability, and explosiveness on the court. Thanks for all the amazing videos so far.
Dude you're psychic, I drove myself insane mishitting balls like this in matches just yesterday.
This is sooo helpful, Im a 5.0 player but always have harder time playing against players below 4.0 because of unforced errors, this video not only cleared up why that's happening but also how to deal with it
Good rule is give what you get until you get the ball at your waist that you can attack more.
Good video. It made me smile because my father used to talk about the nothing ball. Thanks for all the excellent content.
I have watched this video a few times before. Today I rewatched it before a game against a junkballer whom I have lost against two times. Today I won :)
this is a great video, at club level you always get a lot of nothing balls/defensive/moon balls and we have a tendency to go for the winning and miss it, I will try this drill out, thanks
Great video. I love these point playing tips! I was watching the upcoming Italian talent Lorenzo Musetti this week in a Challenger in Turkey. The guy is the opposite in every aspect to his fellow countrymam Jannik Sinner. Technically he is crazy good. A single handed backhand that matches that of Roger and Wawrinka. Hits dropshots all the time. Lots of variation. But that is exactly where his weakness lays. Namely: his decision making on important points. He simply had to many options. And like in this video...he often goes for a winner at balls he should just angle and like you say, set-up for the next shot.
He lost the final btw in 3 sets after winning the first, but due to rain in the first three days he had to play up to three matches a day (including doubles) so I believe the physical aspect played a big role too in the loss.
I watched him more than an year ago
i know when an upcoming star is coming . i agree musetti will be great
Yes. Sometimes having too many options can be a problem lol wr typically choose the worst one! But I'm sure he will learn in no time
@@KaruesellHQ Exactly, saw him hitting a underhand double fault on an important point 😆 Yet also hit a winning dropshot on setpoint against him. I like the unpredictability, yet like he says himself he needs to look at Sinner for some aspects :)
@@robocop6573 yes definitely seems like he's got what it takes
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Great video Karue. I am a 4.0 player and think I can apply this mindset to an opponent I recently played. I beat him first time out in a close USTA singles pro-set (1 set to 9) . But then he beat me the next time we played in another really close 1 set match. I will employ the deep, fairly high-bouncing junk ball straight down the middle as his MAIN shot. That is what he will go to if I am on the baseline and he is also on the baseline. this video seemed to apply to players who will occasionally throw you a junk ball as a defensive tactic, but will otherwise try to actually hit and win points. I think this is a great tactic, especially on the amateur level.
It will just take even more focus and patience for me to apply this when every ball I receive is a junk ball-to take the ball early and create strategic angles -- thinking 2 or 3 steps ahead of how I want to attack.
Well good luck next time Scott. You can always use the junk ball yourself. It's a good way to win some free points
The challenge for me is it's a completely different ball to hit. If I have been rallying and hitting nice topspin shots and I get something slow and high I will probably give it too much lift/depth and hit it long if I keep my same action going. You do a nice job of hitting it fairly flat at say 3.30 but that's a very different shot to the previous ones and for significantly weaker players like me it's a lower % shot because of how different it is - I haven't warmed it up so I go for it and mess it up. Now I've completely lost confidence, and push the next one back, do that one or two more times and they will start attacking the net when I do it. It's exactly the same with the second serve that just gets pushed in and sits up saying hit me. It's so different from the return off a fast serve that even though it looks really easy my attempts to hit it hard go wrong. I then loose confidence and push it back at which point they know they can really go for their first serves as I am going to give them the easiest return on the second.
Wow. You just outlined my issues exactly. Especially returning the slow loopy serves with no pace. I frequently over hit them or hit them into the net. Ug… Getting a bit better recently though.
I came back here from Winston’s video! You guys are doing a great job! I’ve been relaying your messages to my younger tennis friends. You are turning back the clock for me. Thank you guys
that is so awesome to hear. Thank you!
love the part @ 3:28 there are 2 high soft balls. just have to be patience and set your mind to setup the next shot and then next shot instead of rushing to crust the ball. great information.
this was such an educational video. I am totally guilty of someone who tries to do too much. My tennis IQ isn't great; I wish I could figure out a way to have someone watch my matches and help me strategize efficiently. Thanks for making this. One of the best tennis channels out there.
That's so counter-intuitive. One would think that a nothing-ball is a good opportunity to catch one's breath by not having to run as hard to it, and then knock the racket out of his hand with power.
Thank you so much I always lose to junk ballers. I’m an aggressive baseline. I always fall for the trap of going for a put away shot too soon.
Gotta respect the junk ballers, they know how to play the game well!
I’m in the same boat. Glad I found this video! Top class.
I’m in the same boat. Glad I found this video! Top class.
Have you learnt the lesson & playing better?
@@Timothy_Pitt yes I have learned the lesson but the issue has changed to they are in better shape than me now so I have to figure out a way to win.
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Thank you!
Nice tips in general. Your partner seems to have a quite short forehand take-back, while his backhand take-back is just perfect! It's like he's hitting a serve return every time he hits a forehand ("abbreviated" swing).
Good video but didn’t address some other factors. I played a match yesterday, semifinal club tournament(I’m a solid 4.5) on green clay in windy conditions and very hot and humid. Guy I was playing is very craft and was clearly exhausted. So at 4-4 in the 2nd set he took off all pace and just started hitting true moon balls. I got impatient and with the windy conditions sailed a couple out at crucial moments and that was the decider. What I needed to do was focus a lot more on my footwork. Be much busier in my preparation and also to say to myself, hit deep down the middle with a lot of margin. Not think, I’ll hit “deep” because with wind and bounces that had become unpredictable, one can’t really hit deep off a high ball like that. Just good for thought for anyone facing similar conditions. Good for my opponent to have seen a way to win, but infuriating for me as I’m the better player and in much better physical shape.
Excelente video! Parabéns pelas dicas. Usar os ângulos e ter paciência pra decidir na hora certa (quando encurtar na linha do "T") é essencial no tênis!
Great explanation! I just wish i could hit those angled shots like you guys, my confidence level with those are pretty low. Just cant seem to find the right spot on the ball.
Repetition my friend. Doesn't have to be a perfect angle, just a shot that makes your opponent run
@My Tennis HQ would you agree that some players are better on the run than standing still? If so, how does your strategy change? For instance, I think you're deadlier off the court than in the middle of it.
Karue and Gui thanks for the videos, very clear, dynamic and instructive!
And I didn’t realize you guys are both Brazilian!
Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho!
Such a great vid, Karue - 'NB +1' is an easy one to remember
I watched this video again before playing a UTR match today as a reminder to extend the court as the next setup shot.
I hated tennis until my son became a player/fanatic. He's 12 and progressing very well but once found these moon shot nothing balls really frustrating and got beat by 'inferior' (!) players who used them. He's got now to the stage of being able to cope with them - but not to turn them to his advantage. Hece this vid is an actual game changer and I'm going to go through it with him when he gets back from school. because i'm now a tennis convert....thanks liked and subbed
hahah that is awesome to hear. We have a big library of lessons here on the channel, make sure you browse around!
This vid speaks to my heart! Preach, Karue!
Wow your intro is super awesome! 👍🔥🎾💪👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you for the very entertaining video!
Great content. As an advanced player I really enjoy the breakdowns of situational shots, which is basically what tennis really is. Keep it going! Just a suggestion: you could even go deeper into hand/swingpath technicalities of certain shots. I think most people really struggle (defo me included) with a specific shot. In my case is making a good aggressive two handed backhand (especially cross court) when the ball is really calling for a finisher.I find the rotation of the body and the transfer of weight extremely tricky, or maybe I should just wait for the ball to drop a bit and make it a standard shot? Just food for thought hehe. Great job in building and developing this channel!
Maybe a few lessons will help.
I'm so happy that this video validates a tactic I learned through self discovery.
Again, 11:20 - I'ts the ball that decides what you are going to do..." In a real match this has helped me SOOOOOO much.
I love the timing of and how you get through your forehand... magnifique.
If only.
Enjoying the channel Karue, keep up the good work.
So true that being over aggressive can sometimes mean you are taking away time from yourself.
In this case you got a low&short-ish ball that you can easily attack. What would you do if your opponent just keeps pushing the ball back high and deep? My practice partner is really good at hitting high and deep on the run and can do it forever 😢. At our level (~4.0) a safer attack/set-up shot usually doesn't put up enough pressure, while one that does is usually not safe enough.
Great explanation on moving the opponent off the court and not going for to much to quickly. You do this very well and it is nice to see it in action.
Thank you!
You hear this all the time, but it's true... Really good advice. Thanks
Good job Andy👀🎾New Look is outstanding. Instructional is very helpful. thank you
Omg I need this... playing with these trash ballers out there is frustrating. Thanks dood💪
In my experience, the best tactic against pushers is to have the right mentality before you walk on the court. Accept that it is not going to be fun and look at it as a test of your consistency and control. Play with a margin of error and be patient. Use the lack of pace on their shots to practice knifing your slice deep and cross court. Try using your topspin second serve as a first serve, as this forces them to take a swing at the ball. When you then hit the serve hard, it catches them out. If you just blast your serve all the time, they get the feel on a block shot that they can place deep, which is super frustrating. When you do finally get an easy ball in a rally, commit to smashing it in a controlled way, with a margin for error. Do you not beat yourself up if you miss, as this will only make you more likely to miss next time. Having a negative mindset when you make mistakes, helps the pusher, so don't do it. Control, patience and variation are key.
I agree
Having correct mindset is key
Helpful. Some of us need to be reminded of this from time to time.
Glad I could help
oh it sooo refreshing to find this kind of channel, thanks million times:))....nothing balls are like black holes they suck up energy and if you miss them they hit on self esteem so hard lol....the thing is i still do not differentiate the type of balls well, this was helpful
You are welcome!
Great stuff! Patience and a definite pattern to execute. I'll play with a pusher next week, I'll definitely try this out!
This guy is the best. Period.
This is the best advice on junk balls!!
Thanks for the video. Very good and something
I can try while warming up also. Thanks again!
Thank you so much, it's such strategic forward thinking which I was lacking...I was going for broke on those slow deep balls.
to the point and such an eye opener. your videos have real advice man. subscribed!
I lost all my juniors matches to nothing and moon ballers
a lot of us did 😭
Its part of the game dawg😭 Atleast you aint one of them
If you don't get your @ss handed to you by a junk baller or good pusher/nothing baller at some point in your tennis life, you are nobody. LOLOL.
Same! I just had a humiliating loss today. 6-0 the score
Tried this training with a friend. Asked him to junk ball me. By adopting this strategy of recognizing the junk ball as an opportunity for a setup ball, I just crushed it ball after ball. I normally have a lot of problems with junk ballers. Now looking forward to meeting next in a match! LOVE your channel! One of the top ones for tennis!
Thank you...i`ll try this out tomorrow at practice! :)
Let me know how it goes
@@KaruesellHQ really improved my game/game plan 👍 before it was all about finishing the point as quickly as possible 🤦♂️🙂
Most Exhausting Player’s kryptonite! 🤣
Yes this could help but I actually think his Krypto is someone who can actually serve and volley and put away the smash. I’ve yet to see him play anyone with a strong net game.
don't need to serve & volley to beat MEP. just need to properly construct a point repeatedly. basically what this drill shows (even tho it doesn't show/practice closing in on the net to take away time).
@@PaulMacklinAmazing or anyone who doesn't abandon his default game after 3-4 errors and go into ultra conservative pansy tennis mode
I guess the thing that MEP is inadvertently teaching so many of TTs followers is the importance of consistency. How many of his opponents can engage in a rally where they hit >3 balls without making an unforced error? Certainly challenging me to up my consistency.
@@PaulMacklinAmazing He plays don’t miss tennis 🎾 even it means hitting soft/weak/unorthodox, which probably suits his quiet/low key demeanour. He is relatively quick on his feet and that helps him.
Thank you for your thoughtful, solid advice. I played a mixed doubles social comp last night and faced a number of junk balls. As you said, I just wanted to put them all away and did with a few but would have undoubtedly had a better overall result if I'd taken a step back and used this approach! Looking forward to hitting this drill with my son (if it ever stops raining here in Sydney!). Cheers and thank you - Dave
This was so good, my primary tennis partner/opponent. Is constantly playig deep slices down the middle. Gonna deff try this next session
Let us know how it goes
@@KaruesellHQ worked like a charm 6-1 6-1 6-2 :D ty for your awesome advice !!
Great explanation as always. Easy to follow and therefore implement into my game. Looking forward to upcoming vids.
Great video, love these tips and strategies. Need to go back and work on those angle shots on nothing balls
No truer words were ever spoken... "It's the ball that decides what you are going to do, not you..."
How I deal with nothing balls when I used to play this game. Instead of playing passive tennis and just letting the nothing ball control me instead I would do the opposite and just choose what shot selection to make on the nothing ball.... Use a Swinging Volley to put some heavy spin on it, Or Add alot more pace to it and use the reverse to clear the ball just over the netcord.. , Slice Chip it short down the line when the guy is off to one side of the court instead of hitting it hard and deep to the baseline corner down the line as some guys have the running extreme forehand to get to those extreme wide line corner balls, so i don't think a 10-20 foot gap is wide enough for some guys. especially if they have that running forehand, so I would also aim the nothing ball short wide shallow angle aiming towards the single corner sidelines of the service area instead of aiming deep down the baseline corner so I can open a up a bigger gap of 60-80 feet instead of just a leaving a gap of only just 10-20 feet which increases the risk that the wide line ball will get returned if the guy has the running reverse forehand. I wanted the gap more wider so the ball would not be returned back.
@@germanslice you always have a choice but the point the quote is trying to get across is that the shot that comes at you will inherently offer up a “better” or “preferred” option for your return...
@@jeantrudel292 well you can always slice drive all through the ball with the backhand and skim it with some pace low over the netcord. That type of flatter slice makes it a little more harder for the other guy to volley it as the ball will stay low once it crosses over the net and won't sit up high but it will dig up and skid into the player's feet and legs and start to push them backwards on the court because of the extra depth and pace that type of slice puts on the ball.. So Its not like the club slice you see often with the rec club amateur players when they slice the ball often these players have the strings facing the wrong direction so they come too much under the ball so the ball scoops up in the air going higher over the net and sits up in the court and falls short and has no bite behind it allowing the other guy to just step in with his forehand and just crush it. So I like using different options off these no pace nothing balls. Slice is good I think because if you have a good slice drive then you have the option to either jam up players feet with it or thread the needle to pass them.
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So happy y'all updated the logo! looks great!
Thank you
Yup your intro looks really really good and DOPE
Your opponent (in white) court positioning at 7:24 was wrong, hence you had easier time; he should have been a step to your left off the middle, anticipating a cross court...What's your favorite racket? Which racket were you playing with in this video?
Great mindset tip!
Last night that moutet/tiafoe match was a really good example of what you are illustrating.
This is the exact ball that frustrates me. Thanks a lot
I usually will hit high topspin with sharp angle. Since their shots are slow, gives me more time to set up a sharp angled shot, and prepare to finish with inside out forehand 😁
Great tip -- well demonstrated/explained, Karue!
Thank you!
What a GREAT video! Thank you Karue 🙌
In my opinion the reason why these "nothing balls" are difficult is a lot simpler: no one practices them. Tennis biggest problem is perception. Most players who THINK they're better than they are will always have problem with slower than usual balls. Most players who THINK they're worse will excel at slower balls. But most wont practice them at all.
Taking that ball early is something I wouldn’t have done and it surprised me because that gave the opponent no chance to reach it. It was super quick. I suppose that also has to do with the positioning at the time. If he would have hit the ball longer I suppose you would ve moved a bit further back but still try to get that ball early?
"He will feed me balls"
I know.. MY MIIINDDD!
Being patience to go for the right shot instead of going for broke. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Any chance Karue playing against TennisTroll players ? 👀
Thanks for the tip, it could have helped in my tournament that I had a couple days ago lol.
Great lesson coach , thank you ❤️
I like “don’t use it to hit a winner, use it to setup the next shot”
Excellent video about a subject I need to improve. Obrigado, Karue.
You are welcome, Agustín!
I like how their nothing ball is basically as finishing shot at my level. Nothing balls at 3.0-3.5 are way more dead than this. I think it's way harder to return and generate power on those than what is shown in the video.
Subbed! I hate losing to junkers!
They're easier to handle when you grow up and mature and your mind and heart aren't racing...
Another high quality video and i really like the new logo!!! The lessons you provide is really helpful for all amateur players or maybe pro level as well. Thank you Karue as always!!! Can't wait for the nxt one!!! Also were u using vcore 95 in this video?
Yep I want to help amateurs win more points and play the game more instead of just worrying about technique. I was using the 98 there
Please include some music in the intro!!
I will I will!
Amazing technique. Looks easy but hard to execute.
nice explanation. what do you think about trying to rush to volley on slow high balls , hit an attack volley and force him to hit a passing or lobe ? i noticed, on a recreational level, that moonballers are uncomfortable if you can go volley early.
Not a bad play, even taking it as a swing volley. Just beware that usually a junk baller enjoys a target, so if you come in they might be good at passing. Again, this isn't the rule, just something to take about. Tennis is so nuanced, you have to try stuff
@@KaruesellHQ sounds good. they love to have a target, but hate to have to hit risky shots... that's a bet , and i suppose you have to do what you're best at.
thanks and keep posting awesome stuff :)
I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them every single time. Thanks! Especially this problem with nothing balls I’ve been dealing so much with being too impatient hitting it like it has winner potential every time and then putting too much effort and seeing the ball fly long. You have a great point about building up the game and challenge your opponent instead of trying to make a winner.
Also I was wondering about the one other challenge I’m struggling much with - kinda familiar with this one - is the short “nothing balls” usually in the middle of the pitch. I feel like I have to take advantage being aggressive and attack but I often fail by putting the ball in the net or making it a bit too long. It looks so easy for you pros but for me and my friends it’s pretty damn hard finding consistency :)
Any advice? Maybe others recognize the problem and make it worth making a video in the future? :) Thanks again man!
Lots of drills with your mates Christian. My son and I used to just play sets but now we do lots of drills before we play, focussing on our weaknesses before trying to incorporate them into our games. You get much better results from controlled repetition drilling like this than in a game situation. Good luck and cheers from Sydney - Dave
Looks Great!
Thanks for putting out good helpful content..my 36 years of bad habits are getting a little better one drill at a time lol
Glad we can help!
This channel is amazing!!
Could you please do a vid on the importance of the non racquet arm? It’s rare to see a vid on this. My biggest complaint is that I’m always forgetting to use it for switching the grip(laziness?) or keep me balanced. TIA
Great video! Thanks!👏👏👏
Excellent stuff. Allen's shots at the end of the video were the most inspiring. Kudos to his form... the split step, the toe point, the non-dominant hand across the to mention a few. But I noticed that Allen, much like my shots, doesn't quite have the ATP stroke look that yours does. I'm sure there's many other little things going on here that are harder to observe, but in my pause-replay frame by frame analysis of you and Allen - - - you seem to have your racket up and unit turn started before the ball crosses the net... and Allen seems to be at the same place by the time the ball is closer to reaching his service line. Are there any racket checkpoints you've seen used in the timing and racquet preparation?
I play way more often than him so I see the ball a bit faster which leads to quicker turns and adjustment. But yes it is important to start the unit turn early
As a beginner, I was trying to read your body position to see if it was cross court or straight and I was wrong both times
Will try it tomorrow !
What do you do when you get a short shit slice almost an accidental dropshot back from your setup shot? I get caught by surprise often.
I will make a video on that as well. That's a totally different shot and it is super tricky so it is something I'll definitely work on
@@KaruesellHQ thanks!
Great video Karue. The only thing that would make it better is River! 🐕
Hi Karue,
Love your strategy for capitalizing on nothing balls! How does the strategy change when you play doubles? Do we keep the same direction and go for an angle or is this too risky?
This rally between Moutet and Dimitrov yesterday, shows how difficult a nothing ball can be, even at the highest levels of tennis. The nothing balls from Moutet can be seen at 5:26 and 5:31 in the clip below (starts at the start of the point in question):
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You using the Vcore all the time now? Thought you had switched to the Ezone?
Nice video. There’s a couple of guys at my club that hit moonballers every single shot, I end up going harder and harder until I miss, Will deff give this tactic a try,
Great video once again!