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When I was young I had a dream I had sex with a dolphin in a swimming pool. The slippery slimy dolphin was really intriguing to me and yeah I was young and male, I'm still male to this day.
Maybe the communication experiment could have gotten somewhere if they'd paid attention to basic biology and realized dolphins can't form the same sounds as us. They just needed to try teaching it English via Morse code (like how a gorilla was taught sign language). It probably wouldn't have been able to learn much more than a few simple words, but it would have been easier than just talking to it and expecting it to magically turn into a parrot.
Yeah, scientists doubt that Koko was actually using sigm language. I also love how you casually say "ahhh, just teach it Morse code." LOL!! Yeah, just run down to the convenience store and pick up a "teach dolphins Morse code" kit
There is video proof that the gorilla definitely learned and used some hand signs (probably nowhere near as many as those teaching it claimed). My point is, the gorilla did learn to at least mimic hand signing, even if it never understood what it was saying (and certainly couldn't form any full sentences), so the dolphin, just like it learned to mimic the tone of the woman's voice, could likely have learned to mimic a click/squeal version of Morse code. Again, as I said, they probably wouldn't get any further than associating a few words with specific actions, but it is a far better tactic than expecting their throats and mouths to transform to something capable of making human sounds. It's not like Morse code is all that complicated. I learned the entire alphabet in one night just for fun. They could've at least taught it .._. _____ _____ _.. You can see a very similar thing today where dogs and cats are given buttons that play human words. The animal pushes the button that will say the word "food" when they are hungry or "outside" when they need to go out or even the name of a family member that they are looking for. We know they can't vocalize like us, so they are given a different way to communicate these simple ideas. Even if they don't understand the concepts of the words themselves (I'd say it's doubtful they ever will, regardless of what their owners like to think about how smart they are), they eventually understand what actions typically follow them.
I'm sure the scientists were aware of this, the story is either oversimplified or the scientists were taking advantage of the woman's stupidity for the lol's.
I find it rather amusing that SO MANY people are SO QUICK to decry how the Dolphins are so inferior... along with Gorillas, Cats, and any other ORGANIC BRAINS we've found on planet earth, while they often the same people SO QUICK to be impressed by our Artificial Intelligence progresses and the chance for our robots to challenge us or take over the world... Just because something or someone is intelligent DOES NOT MEAN it's going to blindly agree with you. It doesn't even mean it's going to arguably perceive or interact with the world in ways you approve of. SO far as I've seen, and I've seen quite a bit... The machine learning is still just overtly sophisticated math and code... nothing especially self aware or intelligent on its own... The animals, on the other hand... certainly give more ambiguous and self motivated evidence of actual thinking going on, whether or not you approve or enjoy their ideas... ;o)
Peters end is really heartbreaking. How could they put him in such a desolate environment after being is an environment that fostered bonding and communication with his caretakers. It was as if he was being punished. That was suicide. He gave up on life. Humans are horrible.
money. Since their funding got cut there was no money to support the dolphins care. Everybody went in with good intentions... then people started taking LSD and jerking dolphins off. I can sympathize, if only abstractly.
@@seth7745 I bet the American Government have done some horrific things in the dark in the name of medical progress. Does anyone Not think the Medical World didn't use what the Nazi Dr.'s learned?? The jab and this Gender Frankenstein-ing I bet is child's play compared to what we is done in secret.
9:40 "Unlike us humans, dolphin's don't have vocal cords. They don't even speak with their mouths. Above water they make sound in a similar way to most politicians; by forcing air out of their blowholes" Damn, that got me good 🤣
Man, Peter's tragic end is a real tear jerker. Dude didn't have thumbs, and without Margaret's "helping hand," he simply lost the will to go on. RIP Peter!
This wouldn’t be the first recording dolphin suicide. The world first dolphin trainer Ric O'Barry, witnessed Kathy’s suicide. Kathy was the primary dolphin used for the famous Flipper tv-series. This event caused Ric to dedicate the rest of his life to fighting against dolphin captivity and sea aquariums.
I also had a dolphin I was very close to commit suicide while I was at college, 3,000 miles away. The damn thing is I had a nightmare that, strangely enough, clearly showed architectural and environmental similarities to the environment where the dolphin died. I later determined that happened no later than 2 weeks after my dream, and her trainer told me she'd been going down hill for a while before that. One has to be very careful, in ending a relationship with a dolphin, to gradually diminish contact to the point where the dolphin can replace you in its affections with someone else. In captivity, they become dependent on us not only for fish, vitamins and fresh water, but for emotional support. They put in us the kind of faith they give to their mates in the sea, and it is total and absolute. You break it not only at their risk, but yours as well.
That was definitely a suicide by Peter. Losing Margaret was no doubt enough of a heartbreak for him, but to then be put into that tiny tank and no sunlight? Had he and the other two been housed in a decent pool, where he could at least swim around, he might have survived missing her, but the loss and then confinement was too much for him. That was inhumane to treat them that way.
Sadly, it seems to be the proof people are always looking for that animals are truly conscious and self-aware. You have to understand your own mortality in order to commit suicide.
It sounds like Peter was never housed in a "decent pool" to begin with. Living in water levels no higher than a human's hip, is no way for a dolphin to live. Add to that, the unnecessary separation from others of his species. He was probably mentally screwed even before the experiment ended. If they were so dumb that they didn't even notice such a glaring issue, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the scientists failed to take care of the dolphin's needs in other ways as well. Especially since it was the 60s, where the idea of keeping animals in humane conditions during experiments was a foreign concept.
I think it does not matter if he understood "the concept of suicide." It is very clear about his actions that he lost his "will to live" and did not maintain his life any longer. Action which talks about huge emotional suffering. The fact is that through his own actions, Peter died following a heartbreak. That is suicide.
Cruel and insane experiments have been performed on humans and animals. Dr Lilley was a brilliant scientist and he was humane, respectful of all sentient life, as opposed to the 'scientists' (lacking basic ethics or scientific method) tasked with deliberately poisoning African-Americans, prisoners and the general population. Have you been to Bikini Atoll recently?
The tragic death of Peter the dolphin at the hands of those idiots who believe a dolphin can communicate was heartbreaking to see and hear about. Bubbles, Michael Jackson's pet chimpanzee, sprang to mind when watching the video. It would be nice if scientists just left animals alone.
I agree to a certain extent, but there are some things about the natural world that just CAN'T be understood without the observation of or even experimentation on animal subjects. An unfortunate fact of reality is that a lot of modern creature comforts & breakthrough scientific discoveries only happen BECAUSE OF said experimentation. It would be nice if we COULD just make scientific advancements without the need to ever endanger anything or anyone, but science isn't nice.
What springs to my mind is the meat, dairy and egg industry an how they are treated an other animals from the deforestation that is needed for these industries.
what happened to Bubbles? I know that it's been proven that having exotic pets like chimps and big cats is just not recommended because it's so common to neglect them out of ignorance
Poor Peter! Dolphins really are smart, they communicate with each other, teach each other. They form bonds. That poor creature had no idea why his entire world suddenly changed. and I feel sure grieved that previous life. Even a dog mourns it's master.
Don’t forget that dolphins are wild animals, dogs not. They don’t form bonds with humans, because they aren’t domesticated animals. Though companys like Seaworld like to make you believe that their captured animals have a bond with their trainers, the only thing that they are really interested in is the food they are given by these trainers. They do get used to human company, but they do not form an emotional bond. Also, the thing you should be really sorry for is that this remarkably intelligent creature was kept in captivity. It is impossible to provide everything needed for an healthy life for an animal like this. They get bored and develop massive psychological damage. It is similar to keeping a human locked up in an empty room all its life.
They also gang rape. Left out of this story here is that one reason Margaret was doing this was that dolphins can get quite aggressive, especially when it comes to their "needs". This is a really romanticized version of what in reality was a totally unethical experiment full of animal abuse, led by a scientist with a drug problem and a young woman who didn't have a clue what she was doing there or with her life in general.
Those dolphins in Dr. Lilly's research lab pools suffered so horrifically from depression that some of them died from loneliness, lack of body movement and grief.
Since you're a fan of the book, have you figured out what he really says when he introduces himself. He even trolled everyone in his video about Pythagoras. 😅😂🤣 When I finally figured it out, I became an instant fan of his videos.
It's not the Content Creator: Is the Contents of this World that are Pure Madness... Not only that... did you see the Deep Conditioning that he himself had of NASA? NASA is the New Intelligence for the less Acquainted... No one Ever Stated Not Even Once NASA was in the Intelligence...
You would think if they wanted to talk to animals they would start with animals that are capable of speaking. Like parrots crows and ravens. I once knew a parrot named Spanky that could speak a 150 words he even gave the dog commands and the dog obeyed. It was clearly far more than just a trick the bird knew exactly what it was doing. His only hang up was he confused the word treat with cookie, Spanky was one smart bird he even drank beer. Larry the guy that owned the bird. His wife divorced him and left him with nothing but his motorcycle and the bird. Then I heard that Larry won the lottery maybe not millions but more than enough to retire moved to Florida. Those parrots can live for 50 or 60 years. I would like to think that somewhere in Florida Spanky and Larry are sitting on the beach somewhere having cookies and beers to this day.
theres a parrot at the pet store that can talk, and actually communicate basically. but hes been there for years because hes $7000+ and bites anything that comes even close.
So instead of realising dolphins can verbally communicate instructions and going ahead and learning their language, we ended up giving the dolphin hand jobs and LSD. Wow.
Fun Fact: shortly after this dolphin research started, fellow Professor Louis Leakey sent 3 college students (the TriMates) into the jungles. Birutè Galdikas to study Orangutans, Jane Goodall to study Chimpanzees, and Diane Fosse to study Gorillas.
First I wanted to make a joke about how quickly this video got demonetized. Then I wanted to say how tragically this ended - RIP Peter. But then you brought up Ecco the Dolphin and now all I want to say is that game was *AWESOME.*
Love the channel & videos. Sorry long comment & getting into some personal stuff. I subscribed to the channel 5 years ago & quit watching UA-cam some time after that & in between that time I was hit by a car in 2018 & in the hospital for a few weeks, it broke vertebra in my neck, cracked my right shoulder blade almost in half, cracked my skull, de-gloved my scalp, broke my left leg & shattered my ankle. So I had to move back in with my parents can't work or get out much & I get lonely & bored, after my parents paid me back for fixing the plumbing, I bought an XBOX & finally figured out how to sign in to UA-cam & that's all I watch now, because we just have Direct TV & there's never anything on, but talking to my therapist, my medication, weed & you're videos help with my loneliness & boredom & I wanted to say thank you for that
Oh man, i hope you get better (i am a recovering addict and through a failed marriage, i live with depression. I can somehow relate, 'cause i don't leave home either)
I'd heard this story before but you had additional information that I hadn't heard before. Very interesting, but so sad that the dolphins ended up so badly. Loved the quote at the end - the perfect way to end the video!
My brother's first girlfriend had some big dogs. A mutt and a golden retriever they (her & her mother) couldn't keep them anymore so my family took them. The mutt was male, Razoo the Razzertater. The retriever was female, Buttercup. Amazing dogs. The best dogs for a teenage boy to have around. We had many adventures together. Buttercup got sick. She had to be ...... put down. Razzoo simply shut down. He wouldn't eat or drink. He wouldn't move to go to the bathroom, he just laid in his filth. He stopped responding to everyone. He didn't even want to go for truck rides. There was nothing medically wrong with him. He died 4 days later after Buttercup. He died of a broken heart. Animals can love just like we can.
It is medically proven fact as well...humans can die from "broken heart syndrome". I think that people are purposely closing their eyes from the plain facts that they can see and witness. Denial is strong in humans. Buttercup and Razoo 💗💗💗
Not as extreme, but we had two tiny dogs at one point. One girl and one boy, both fixed. We got them at around the same time and they spent their entire lives together. At around 6-7, the girl died, pretty sure from a snake bite. The boy was never the same. We gave him a lot of love and he stayed in the house all of the time after that, but anytime he wasn't getting attention, you could tell he was sad. He would just lay around and do nothing. Matted eye corners almost all the time. We got another pup hoping to cheer him up, but he was just kind of a jerk to it. We eventually found him a home with a recently retired person hoping that she could give him a lot of attention. Really sad ordeal. We have two younger dogs now again, we're going to get a third in the next year or two to be sure we can do what we can to help when the inevitable happens.
I've read "Man and Dolphin" as well as the sequel, "The Mind of the Dolphin" and ended up with mixed emotions about both. Lilly was a medical doctor from the 50's and most of his writing talks about how courageous it is to even consider, much less declare, that dolphins might be intelligent. The man had an ego and spends a lot of time writing about himself and having such bold ideas. The actual info about dolphins could be condensed into a magazine article. But you have to consider the time, way before the Internet, so little was known, much less spread. In the 50's, people could shoot dolphins for sport. They were thought-of as fish. I really credit the aquariums for enlightening the masses. Even the show, "Flipper" was a big help. Before that, people just didn't know. With guys like Timothy Leary making headlines, it was reasonable to think that LSD might be a technological break-through. I won't fault Lilly there. But I will say that he wasn't much of scientist. He didn't really study the dolphins deeply and observe them for what they were, or are. I feel it was like a window of opportunity lost, and I would love to see someone repeat the experiment with a more modern realistic view. Lilly was eventually done-in by ketamine. He was totally lost on the drug. And I have mixed emotions about that too. Ketamine has recently been shown to be helpful in the treatment of depression. But we're talking about maybe once or twice a year. More often and it destroys the brain. That seems to be what happened to Lilly. Thanks to Thoughty2. This was a good exposition, and I never knew that Margaret got the lab and what, unfortunately, happened to Peter. By looking at the past, we can plot the future. And hopefully improve.
Ketamine doesn't destroy the brain in controlled amounts. Ketamine sprays can be used on a weekly basis without adverse effects. Mdma is neurotoxic but it is being trialled for ptsd and depression. The key to counteracting neurotoxicity is antioxidants as well as other substances. Psilocybin, LSD and other alkaloids have neuro-regenerative properties, as well as giving you a totally different outlook on life as a whole. It's a shame that these kinds of substances are still stigmatised nowadays, especially with LSD being given a bad rep after the FBI/CIA experiments. If you dose someone for months on end, no wonder they're gonna go batshit crazy 😂
@@nikolaszakrzewski7092 Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I would like to see more research and trials with psychedelics. But I'm going to let others do the experimenting.
@@KarrieDreammind5 If you're looking for an interesting read about the earlier days of dolphins, I recommend "Lads Before the Wind" by Karen Pryor. It's about catching, training and studying dolphins in Hawaii in the 1970's. Written from personal experience.
Margret's dedication to this project and her love of dolphins and the fact that she was not afraid to get her hands a little dirty sure came in handy in more ways than one.
@@thereaction18 yes, yes he did. And this just goes to show the dangers of what happens to a young male going through puberty when his hot 20's something teacher decides to move in with him and work hands on with him every day all day day after day. This really gives new meaning to and helps explain the origin of the phrase "flogging the dolphin". I wonder if Peter let her know he was finish by blowing some salty sea water out of his blow hole onto Margret's face or something. Does anyone know?
@@tristinstorm5858 I'm sure she could see and feel the baby cells emanating from Peters peter she was stimulating. Dolphins make babies the same way mammals do. Humans can have intercourse with mammals the same way the do with humans. Bestiality is a thing...
I'd read almost all of Lilly's books, used to go for floats fairly regularly and met him once back in the 1970s. The human/dolphin communication idea mainly suffered from having been attempted too early. It would probably have a better chance now.
Man, if we could communicate with politicians, then we’d be able to talk to aliens! They can’t seem to understand us, and we can’t understand what the heck they’re doing either.
Yes peter knew his actions would kill him. He would've known when he was running out of air. He would've known he was fighting against the urge to just go up and breath
@@duudsuufd that is a little different. since depression can cause a lack of apatite, they may have just lost interest in food without it being a conscious decision.
there have been atleast another case of zoophilia between human and dolphins (in this case, female dolphin and male human) that let to a very similar outcome where wihtout her keeper (cause he was fired and also felt disgusted of himslef after years of mating with the dolphin) she shank in the pool and refused to get breath until she died. dolphins certainly understand love, heartbreak and suicide.
The dolphin was only mad because he couldn't fuck a human woman. Replace dolphin with a man and that human woman with your daughter. You will view this differently.
If you were a viewer of r/pcm (PoliticalCompassMemes), you may have heard the legend of r/do!phinf*cker69 Let's just say this guy liked to talk about dolphins...
I saw this story in another, hour-long documentary on UA-cam (can't remember where or how it showed up in my feed now, but there you go.) It's a really sad and messed-up experiment, due in large part to huge naivety on the part of the researchers involved. Margaret crossed the line when she started interacting in a more intimate way with Peter - not just for the obvious reasons, but because she must've known she was creating a bond that would devastate Peter once it (inevitably) had to be broken. And as for using LSD...!
@thoughty2 love your videos. They are always well laid out and they flow perfectly. You do a great job of truly telling a story and it makes taking in the information more enjoyable. I do have one serious question for you. Do you ever age? I swear over the years you just dont age man. :D keep up the good work i look forward to your future productions.
My grandma had a dog named Spike and a parakeet named Pete. She didn't allow Spike on the furniture. When she'd see him on the couch, she'd say, "Down Spike, down. " When Grandma was busy in another part of the house, Spike would try to sneak up on the couch. Pete knew he didn't belong there and would say, "Down Spike, down!" The bird would narc him out every time! All Spike could do was give Pete a dirty look because Pete was always safe in his cage. Needless to say, Spike had an intense dislike for Pete. Even little birds like parakeets are smart. I was very young at the time, but I figured Pete was a lot smarter than Spike. 😂
Great video! I had heard this story before but I learned so much more today. And the story is even stranger that I thought! I love "truth is better than fiction" type stories.
The first inter-species communication just happened. The dolphin message was translated and said, 'The extended warranty on your vehicle is about to expire'.
there is a video of young pm Baerbock calling for sex with animals and children to be legalized. She just arrived (post many surgeries) to speak for The U.S in a plane with a Nazi Iron Cross on the side: same one Hitler wore on his label, and has ...Nazi Pig Eugenics written all over her. Why do Nazis fetishize pigs, (and mkultra *chimps*) so much?
First of all i think they are mentally ill. They have a thrive for these animals because they think accomplishing thinks in this area will bring them any sort of advantage of something or somebody. I dont think ANYONE can really understand what is going on with groups in these shape or forms. Sometimes we just cant explain everything. The problem lies within the failure of a whole society and their motivation to move a certain way.
The dolphin was only mad because he couldn't fuck a human woman. Replace dolphin with a man and that human woman with your daughter. You will view this differently.
Nice ending with the reference to your namesake......But it sounds like Peter was giving thanks for more than just fish......But sadly, in the end..... his life just didn't have porpoise anymore😂😂
That's kinda messed up Margaret never went to visit Peter after he was relocated...how can one spend so much time with such an intelligent animal and just...move on overnight? Especially after doing what she did. Dolphins are smart. Poor Peter would have been so lost and confused :(
She should have tried to figure out some way to save the dolphins. I'm sure it was harder back then to get people to care about issues like that though.
@@Beastgirl222 I'm really thinking they wouldn't let her visit Peter again...for whatever reason. The ONLY other reason I can think of, is that SHE felt so traumatized after realizing what all she was a part of, she couldn't handle it herself. But she was also a scientist (more or less) who knew what she was signing up for. And if she met some guy soon after and went on to raise a happy family...idk this seem unlikely. However, it was a classified CIA project, and the CIA did some messed up stuff, so I'm really thinking they maybe wanted to remove any trace of the experiment, and so purposely kept her away. So sad, poor Peter, breaks my heart...
@@drewg4323 Agreed, if she was dedicated enough to move in and live in a water-filled apartment, I don't believe she would have willingly stopped seeing the dolphins. It's much more likely she simply wasn't allowed to see them anymore.
Imagine one of those floating bar type places where it's a big lazy river that's pretty much lined the whole way with a bar area and stools that you can sit on, remaining in the water while enjoying the food/drinks...that, but with dolphins delivering the food to the customers and getting pet for a tip (or maybe a fish) before swimming on back People get to float the lazy river and have dolphins swimming around em the whole time too
I know the whole thing is crazy but something else I find crazy is the fact you want someone to literally teach a dolphin to talk and you expect quick results.. Like, what? Lmao..
I remember the dolphin game on SEGA. I was not aware of the abuse that dolphins were subjected to. However, I actively avoid SeaWorld parks, circuses and rodeos to this day due to animal abuse and cruelty.
I have heard a garbled version of this story, about a woman and a dolphin who were supposed to have fallen in love, but how she decided to abandon him in the end. It must have been based on this, although at the time I just thought it was nonsense.
So In my opinion as a chemistry graduate, I can conclude that NASA's dolphin experiments were controversial for several reasons. In the 1960s and 1970s, NASA conducted a series of experiments with dolphins to study their ability to communicate and to potentially use them for military purposes. Some of the specific controversies surrounding these experiments include: Ethics of animal testing: Many people objected to the use of dolphins in scientific experiments, arguing that it was cruel and inhumane to subject intelligent, social animals to such conditions. Animal rights: Animal rights activists argued that dolphins have the right to live their lives free from human interference, and that it was wrong to use them for military purposes. Military applications: Some people were concerned that the experiments were aimed at developing ways to use dolphins as weapons, which they viewed as morally objectionable. Scientific validity: Some scientists criticized the experiments, arguing that they were not well-designed and that the results were inconclusive. Overall, the controversy surrounding NASA's dolphin experiments highlighted larger questions about the ethics of animal testing and the use of animals for military purposes.
Not as controversial, but in 2017 UC Berkeley reported on a 2 year, million dollar research project about why shoelaces come untied and what the best way to tie them is 👍
the experiement could have worked if they would have tried using non vocal comunication or if they would have given the dolphine a machine that speaks the words the dolphine wants to use by pressing buttons with his nose
Cetaceans are just awesome. An orca named "Old Tom" near Eden, New South Wales, Australia even figured out how to get a job as a whale herder with the local whaling industry (for 25 whole years!), getting paid in tongues and livers which he shared with his pod. "Old Tom" loved his job so much that when a diving whale capsized a whaling ship nearby he rescued the crew and ferried them ashore 2 at a time until they were all safe.
Animals in general are much smarter then most people think. This may sound strange, but I have a farm pig and I'm surprised how smart he is. He opens the door to enter the house and eat dog's food, if I tell him to go back to his coop, he imidiatly does so, responds to his name, if he is near my dog (they play together) and I call the dog he knows that I'm not calling him. I really think that Smart animals are to some extent self aware.
@@cristianandrei5462 Perhaps even smarter, animals aren't trying to destroy the only home they have. Like einstein said, no mouse would build a mouse trap.
Most higher animals have some degree of awareness, and so most are capable of feeling pain, not only dolphins, even horses seem to have joined the group of animals that passed the mirror test and not only mammals, birds and reptiles can as well be capable of awareness and experiencing pain.
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I think the fact that Peter fell in love with Margaret and viceversa was proof that the experiment was a success, and communication between species is indeed possible…
John Lilly’s lsd/isolation tank experiments was the inspiration behind the 80’s sci fi movie “Altered States” starring John Hurt… The experiments trying to teach them to speak, was the inspiration behind the 73 movie “Day of the Dolphin” starring George C. Scott…
Yes, whenever I hear of isolation tanks I think of Altered States, and the Alan Arkin movie Simon where he emerges from an extended stay in an isolation tank convinced that he's an alien from another planet.
I could totally picture Peter's state of mind. I remember my first loves and when they ended some times it felt like my heart was ripped out. Imagine that plus not being able to understand why she left...
today we actually are able to communicate somewhat with dolphins and whales. finding that different pods even have different dialects. we've come a long way since the 60s.
Poor Peter. To end up in a place like that is unconscionable and obviously traumatic. You’d think that with his importance within this study, they would have at least attempted to ensure proper care after the experiment ended. Just from this show, you’d think the bond bn Margret and Peter was so strong that she would’ve advocated for him. Poor dolphin commits suicide while she made a family in her small dolphin house built for him. Then seemingly forgets about him. Beyond sad.
You try to find some place where you can house 3 dolphins in Miami in the 1960's! There was only Marineland, and Lilly had outstayed his welcome there when, years earlier, he had killed several healthy specimens before realizing that, unlike land mammals, dolphins have NO BREATHING REFLEX! Every breath is a conscious act of will, and if you anesthetize them, as Lilly was doing to map their brains with electrodes, they suffocate. He finally built a working respirator, and got his research done, but Dr. Forrest Wood, the Marineland veterinarian, never forgave him the deaths of those dolphins. So Lilly may have had no other place to go, and for some reason he was unwilling to rehabilitate those dolphins and return them to the ocean, as later projects did. (Sources: J.C. Lilly, personal conversations; "Marine Mammals and Man," by F. G. Wood; "Man and Dolphin," by J. C. Lilly; "The Dolphin Chronicles," by Carol J. Howard; and communications from the Sarasota Dolphin Research Program.)
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When I was young I had a dream I had sex with a dolphin in a swimming pool. The slippery slimy dolphin was really intriguing to me and yeah I was young and male, I'm still male to this day.
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Why does Margaret have a dump truck?
Maybe the communication experiment could have gotten somewhere if they'd paid attention to basic biology and realized dolphins can't form the same sounds as us. They just needed to try teaching it English via Morse code (like how a gorilla was taught sign language). It probably wouldn't have been able to learn much more than a few simple words, but it would have been easier than just talking to it and expecting it to magically turn into a parrot.
The gorilla thing was actually debunked but I get the point haha
Yeah, scientists doubt that Koko was actually using sigm language. I also love how you casually say "ahhh, just teach it Morse code." LOL!! Yeah, just run down to the convenience store and pick up a "teach dolphins Morse code" kit
There is video proof that the gorilla definitely learned and used some hand signs (probably nowhere near as many as those teaching it claimed). My point is, the gorilla did learn to at least mimic hand signing, even if it never understood what it was saying (and certainly couldn't form any full sentences), so the dolphin, just like it learned to mimic the tone of the woman's voice, could likely have learned to mimic a click/squeal version of Morse code. Again, as I said, they probably wouldn't get any further than associating a few words with specific actions, but it is a far better tactic than expecting their throats and mouths to transform to something capable of making human sounds. It's not like Morse code is all that complicated. I learned the entire alphabet in one night just for fun. They could've at least taught it .._. _____ _____ _..
You can see a very similar thing today where dogs and cats are given buttons that play human words. The animal pushes the button that will say the word "food" when they are hungry or "outside" when they need to go out or even the name of a family member that they are looking for. We know they can't vocalize like us, so they are given a different way to communicate these simple ideas. Even if they don't understand the concepts of the words themselves (I'd say it's doubtful they ever will, regardless of what their owners like to think about how smart they are), they eventually understand what actions typically follow them.
I'm sure the scientists were aware of this, the story is either oversimplified or the scientists were taking advantage of the woman's stupidity for the lol's.
I find it rather amusing that SO MANY people are SO QUICK to decry how the Dolphins are so inferior... along with Gorillas, Cats, and any other ORGANIC BRAINS we've found on planet earth, while they often the same people SO QUICK to be impressed by our Artificial Intelligence progresses and the chance for our robots to challenge us or take over the world...
Just because something or someone is intelligent DOES NOT MEAN it's going to blindly agree with you. It doesn't even mean it's going to arguably perceive or interact with the world in ways you approve of.
SO far as I've seen, and I've seen quite a bit... The machine learning is still just overtly sophisticated math and code... nothing especially self aware or intelligent on its own...
The animals, on the other hand... certainly give more ambiguous and self motivated evidence of actual thinking going on, whether or not you approve or enjoy their ideas... ;o)
Peters end is really heartbreaking. How could they put him in such a desolate environment after being is an environment that fostered bonding and communication with his caretakers. It was as if he was being punished. That was suicide. He gave up on life. Humans are horrible.
money. Since their funding got cut there was no money to support the dolphins care. Everybody went in with good intentions... then people started taking LSD and jerking dolphins off. I can sympathize, if only abstractly.
@@homelessrobot😊aa
Emphasis on “humans are horrible” but lets use “evil” instead. Because that’s the actual truth. Super sad 😔
He was conditioned to "happy endings"
People can be evil not are evil, stop being anti human or go live on mars
What's bad is, just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean these kinds of experiments don't still happen
I can only imagine the horrible medical experiments done in secret in the name of progress.
@@danielmeuler2877 Well, not even in secrret any more. Experimental jabs on the masses, "gender transition surgery" ect.
@@seth7745 I bet the American Government have done some horrific things in the dark in the name of medical progress. Does anyone Not think the Medical World didn't use what the Nazi Dr.'s learned?? The jab and this Gender Frankenstein-ing I bet is child's play compared to what we is done in secret.
@@seth7745 bingo. But leftards will call you a nazi or conspiracy thurrist for pointing out the obvious
9:40 "Unlike us humans, dolphin's don't have vocal cords. They don't even speak with their mouths. Above water they make sound in a similar way to most politicians; by forcing air out of their blowholes" Damn, that got me good 🤣
The best part of the video😂
Followed later by exasperatedly saying “the experiment was a failure, he hadn’t even learn to speak English!” 😂
My favorite part was "her slippery ex" xD !!
😂😂😂😂 me too
Whaaaaaa??
Man, Peter's tragic end is a real tear jerker. Dude didn't have thumbs, and without Margaret's "helping hand," he simply lost the will to go on. RIP Peter!
Sadly his life just didn't have porpoise anymore😂
@@28russ but Peter was also very shellfish cuz he didn't give Margaret anything in return...at least as far as we know😂
@@kojoyeboah7 😂😂😂😂
. "#Porpoise any more" 🤣🤣🤣 👍
Sad indeed. No idea if he meant to die but he probably didn't want to do anything else.
This wouldn’t be the first recording dolphin suicide. The world first dolphin trainer Ric O'Barry, witnessed Kathy’s suicide. Kathy was the primary dolphin used for the famous Flipper tv-series. This event caused Ric to dedicate the rest of his life to fighting against dolphin captivity and sea aquariums.
I also had a dolphin I was very close to commit suicide while I was at college, 3,000 miles away. The damn thing is I had a nightmare that, strangely enough, clearly showed architectural and environmental similarities to the environment where the dolphin died. I later determined that happened no later than 2 weeks after my dream, and her trainer told me she'd been going down hill for a while before that. One has to be very careful, in ending a relationship with a dolphin, to gradually diminish contact to the point where the dolphin can replace you in its affections with someone else. In captivity, they become dependent on us not only for fish, vitamins and fresh water, but for emotional support. They put in us the kind of faith they give to their mates in the sea, and it is total and absolute. You break it not only at their risk, but yours as well.
That was definitely a suicide by Peter. Losing Margaret was no doubt enough of a heartbreak for him, but to then be put into that tiny tank and no sunlight? Had he and the other two been housed in a decent pool, where he could at least swim around, he might have survived missing her, but the loss and then confinement was too much for him. That was inhumane to treat them that way.
Sadly, it seems to be the proof people are always looking for that animals are truly conscious and self-aware. You have to understand your own mortality in order to commit suicide.
It sounds like Peter was never housed in a "decent pool" to begin with. Living in water levels no higher than a human's hip, is no way for a dolphin to live. Add to that, the unnecessary separation from others of his species. He was probably mentally screwed even before the experiment ended. If they were so dumb that they didn't even notice such a glaring issue, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the scientists failed to take care of the dolphin's needs in other ways as well. Especially since it was the 60s, where the idea of keeping animals in humane conditions during experiments was a foreign concept.
Or it was just the horrible environment he was in that caused depression.
I think it does not matter if he understood "the concept of suicide." It is very clear about his actions that he lost his "will to live" and did not maintain his life any longer. Action which talks about huge emotional suffering.
The fact is that through his own actions, Peter died following a heartbreak. That is suicide.
Cruel and insane experiments have been performed on humans and animals. Dr Lilley was a brilliant scientist and he was humane, respectful of all sentient life, as opposed to the 'scientists' (lacking basic ethics or scientific method) tasked with deliberately poisoning African-Americans, prisoners and the general population. Have you been to Bikini Atoll recently?
R.I.P. Peter and the other dolphins. They deserved better in life.
So long, and thanks for all the fish, fellow hitchhiker.
Haven’t heard that reference in years, thanks for the nostalgia
Such a mist opportunity for the video 😊
@@nsl_black8053 His channel is a reference
@@RyuusanFT86 yeah I know, I was referring to this specific line 😅
@@B0tch0 His last sentence in the video is exactly that. :)
The tragic death of Peter the dolphin at the hands of those idiots who believe a dolphin can communicate was heartbreaking to see and hear about. Bubbles, Michael Jackson's pet chimpanzee, sprang to mind when watching the video. It would be nice if scientists just left animals alone.
Yup 🎯
I agree to a certain extent, but there are some things about the natural world that just CAN'T be understood without the observation of or even experimentation on animal subjects. An unfortunate fact of reality is that a lot of modern creature comforts & breakthrough scientific discoveries only happen BECAUSE OF said experimentation. It would be nice if we COULD just make scientific advancements without the need to ever endanger anything or anyone, but science isn't nice.
What springs to my mind is the meat, dairy and egg industry an how they are treated an other animals from the deforestation that is needed for these industries.
what happened to Bubbles? I know that it's been proven that having exotic pets like chimps and big cats is just not recommended because it's so common to neglect them out of ignorance
It would be nice if we can experiment on one of these scientists and see him struggle calling us idiots would put a smile to my face
Poor Peter! Dolphins really are smart, they communicate with each other, teach each other. They form bonds. That poor creature had no idea why his entire world suddenly changed. and I feel sure grieved that previous life. Even a dog mourns it's master.
Would be crazy if dolphins thought of us like aliens... "So.. Peter got abducted"
@@catsarerude 😂😂
You should look at what donkeys do when one of their fellow donkey mates die. It’s so sad
Don’t forget that dolphins are wild animals, dogs not. They don’t form bonds with humans, because they aren’t domesticated animals. Though companys like Seaworld like to make you believe that their captured animals have a bond with their trainers, the only thing that they are really interested in is the food they are given by these trainers. They do get used to human company, but they do not form an emotional bond. Also, the thing you should be really sorry for is that this remarkably intelligent creature was kept in captivity. It is impossible to provide everything needed for an healthy life for an animal like this. They get bored and develop massive psychological damage. It is similar to keeping a human locked up in an empty room all its life.
They also gang rape. Left out of this story here is that one reason Margaret was doing this was that dolphins can get quite aggressive, especially when it comes to their "needs". This is a really romanticized version of what in reality was a totally unethical experiment full of animal abuse, led by a scientist with a drug problem and a young woman who didn't have a clue what she was doing there or with her life in general.
Those dolphins in Dr. Lilly's research lab pools suffered so horrifically from depression that some of them died from loneliness, lack of body movement and grief.
the fact you quoted Hitchhikers' guide is AWESOME. Here is a like and comment to help your channel grow and get you the recognition you deserve.
I mean, he's been on the platform for what feels like a decade and has over 5 mil subs. I'd say he's got a fair bit of recognition
Since you're a fan of the book, have you figured out what he really says when he introduces himself. He even trolled everyone in his video about Pythagoras. 😅😂🤣
When I finally figured it out, I became an instant fan of his videos.
as what the other comments imply, just have a think about it, and the realisation will hit you
Best not forget you towel, never know when you'll need one
Just when I thought the topics of these videos couldnt get any more insane..
It's not the Content Creator:
Is the Contents of this World that are Pure Madness...
Not only that... did you see the Deep Conditioning that he himself had of NASA?
NASA is the New Intelligence for the less Acquainted...
No one Ever Stated Not Even Once NASA was in the Intelligence...
Margaret later had a child. The DNA test was inconclusive..
You would think if they wanted to talk to animals they would start with animals that are capable of speaking. Like parrots crows and ravens.
I once knew a parrot named Spanky that could speak a 150 words he even gave the dog commands and the dog obeyed.
It was clearly far more than just a trick the bird knew exactly what it was doing. His only hang up was he confused the word treat with cookie, Spanky was one smart bird he even drank beer.
Larry the guy that owned the bird. His wife divorced him and left him with nothing but his motorcycle and the bird.
Then I heard that Larry won the lottery maybe not millions but more than enough to retire moved to Florida.
Those parrots can live for 50 or 60 years. I would like to think that somewhere in Florida Spanky and Larry are sitting on the beach somewhere having cookies and beers to this day.
theres a parrot at the pet store that can talk, and actually communicate basically. but hes been there for years because hes $7000+ and bites anything that comes even close.
Parrots can live up to 100 years……btw
Parrots can't talk, they just mimick sounds.. ta aught was gorilla sign language years back
Damn, I am single, have a motorcycle and a dog, all I need now is to win the lottery and move to Florida. What a dream.
Awesome story man!
So instead of realising dolphins can verbally communicate instructions and going ahead and learning their language, we ended up giving the dolphin hand jobs and LSD. Wow.
Sounds about right
Perfect summary.
@@morningdove2438 Ahhh, you said the quiet part right out loud! You can bet she did (in the name of science of course).
Not a very promising practice run for alien contact-
@@amongus3345 looks like we'll be the one doing the anal probing.
Fun Fact: shortly after this dolphin research started, fellow Professor Louis Leakey sent 3 college students (the TriMates) into the jungles. Birutè Galdikas to study Orangutans, Jane Goodall to study Chimpanzees, and Diane Fosse to study Gorillas.
I can't wait to read their journals!😂😂
@@garryjones1847 you can find a lot of their articles in the old National Geographic magazines. Diane Fossey was murdered by (possibly) poachers.
The chimpanzee war is the best one
First I wanted to make a joke about how quickly this video got demonetized.
Then I wanted to say how tragically this ended - RIP Peter.
But then you brought up Ecco the Dolphin and now all I want to say is that game was *AWESOME.*
Love the channel & videos. Sorry long comment & getting into some personal stuff. I subscribed to the channel 5 years ago & quit watching UA-cam some time after that & in between that time I was hit by a car in 2018 & in the hospital for a few weeks, it broke vertebra in my neck, cracked my right shoulder blade almost in half, cracked my skull, de-gloved my scalp, broke my left leg & shattered my ankle. So I had to move back in with my parents can't work or get out much & I get lonely & bored, after my parents paid me back for fixing the plumbing, I bought an XBOX & finally figured out how to sign in to UA-cam & that's all I watch now, because we just have Direct TV & there's never anything on, but talking to my therapist, my medication, weed & you're videos help with my loneliness & boredom & I wanted to say thank you for that
Oh man, i hope you get better (i am a recovering addict and through a failed marriage, i live with depression. I can somehow relate, 'cause i don't leave home either)
❤ you gave me some perspective on my current difficulties. Hang in there.
I'd heard this story before but you had additional information that I hadn't heard before. Very interesting, but so sad that the dolphins ended up so badly. Loved the quote at the end - the perfect way to end the video!
Awesome video! The story, jokes, narration, illustrations...all of it. Well done!
Have to hand it to Thoughty2, the man knows how to come up with titles that make people want to know more! Lol
you gave him a handy?
@@Blox117 🤨
I know right.
The title has changed
And it changed!!
My brother's first girlfriend had some big dogs. A mutt and a golden retriever they (her & her mother) couldn't keep them anymore so my family took them. The mutt was male, Razoo the Razzertater. The retriever was female, Buttercup. Amazing dogs. The best dogs for a teenage boy to have around. We had many adventures together.
Buttercup got sick. She had to be ...... put down.
Razzoo simply shut down. He wouldn't eat or drink. He wouldn't move to go to the bathroom, he just laid in his filth. He stopped responding to everyone. He didn't even want to go for truck rides.
There was nothing medically wrong with him.
He died 4 days later after Buttercup. He died of a broken heart.
Animals can love just like we can.
It is medically proven fact as well...humans can die from "broken heart syndrome".
I think that people are purposely closing their eyes from the plain facts that they can see and witness. Denial is strong in humans.
Buttercup and Razoo 💗💗💗
Should have done what Margaret did
Not as extreme, but we had two tiny dogs at one point. One girl and one boy, both fixed. We got them at around the same time and they spent their entire lives together. At around 6-7, the girl died, pretty sure from a snake bite. The boy was never the same. We gave him a lot of love and he stayed in the house all of the time after that, but anytime he wasn't getting attention, you could tell he was sad. He would just lay around and do nothing. Matted eye corners almost all the time. We got another pup hoping to cheer him up, but he was just kind of a jerk to it. We eventually found him a home with a recently retired person hoping that she could give him a lot of attention. Really sad ordeal. We have two younger dogs now again, we're going to get a third in the next year or two to be sure we can do what we can to help when the inevitable happens.
@@danielhoglan3468 poor guy, what's the solution?
Very sad story that doesn't deserve to be compared to a dolphin being jerked off on the governments dime.
I've read "Man and Dolphin" as well as the sequel, "The Mind of the Dolphin" and ended up with mixed emotions about both. Lilly was a medical doctor from the 50's and most of his writing talks about how courageous it is to even consider, much less declare, that dolphins might be intelligent. The man had an ego and spends a lot of time writing about himself and having such bold ideas. The actual info about dolphins could be condensed into a magazine article. But you have to consider the time, way before the Internet, so little was known, much less spread. In the 50's, people could shoot dolphins for sport. They were thought-of as fish. I really credit the aquariums for enlightening the masses. Even the show, "Flipper" was a big help. Before that, people just didn't know.
With guys like Timothy Leary making headlines, it was reasonable to think that LSD might be a technological break-through. I won't fault Lilly there. But I will say that he wasn't much of scientist. He didn't really study the dolphins deeply and observe them for what they were, or are. I feel it was like a window of opportunity lost, and I would love to see someone repeat the experiment with a more modern realistic view.
Lilly was eventually done-in by ketamine. He was totally lost on the drug. And I have mixed emotions about that too. Ketamine has recently been shown to be helpful in the treatment of depression. But we're talking about maybe once or twice a year. More often and it destroys the brain. That seems to be what happened to Lilly.
Thanks to Thoughty2. This was a good exposition, and I never knew that Margaret got the lab and what, unfortunately, happened to Peter. By looking at the past, we can plot the future. And hopefully improve.
i hope they dont make sequel cocaine bear:"viagra dolphin"
Ketamine doesn't destroy the brain in controlled amounts. Ketamine sprays can be used on a weekly basis without adverse effects. Mdma is neurotoxic but it is being trialled for ptsd and depression. The key to counteracting neurotoxicity is antioxidants as well as other substances. Psilocybin, LSD and other alkaloids have neuro-regenerative properties, as well as giving you a totally different outlook on life as a whole. It's a shame that these kinds of substances are still stigmatised nowadays, especially with LSD being given a bad rep after the FBI/CIA experiments. If you dose someone for months on end, no wonder they're gonna go batshit crazy 😂
@@nikolaszakrzewski7092 Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I would like to see more research and trials with psychedelics. But I'm going to let others do the experimenting.
Thank you so much for this comment. Now I won't feel the desire to read the books myself. 😄
@@KarrieDreammind5 If you're looking for an interesting read about the earlier days of dolphins, I recommend "Lads Before the Wind" by Karen Pryor. It's about catching, training and studying dolphins in Hawaii in the 1970's. Written from personal experience.
what an angel she was, tugging off peter to quench his frustration 💧💧💧
Well well well.
Someone at NASA really went and said "for research porpoises!"
Margret's dedication to this project and her love of dolphins and the fact that she was not afraid to get her hands a little dirty sure came in handy in more ways than one.
Peter came in handy in more ways than one.
Sus
@@thereaction18 yes, yes he did. And this just goes to show the dangers of what happens to a young male going through puberty when his hot 20's something teacher decides to move in with him and work hands on with him every day all day day after day. This really gives new meaning to and helps explain the origin of the phrase "flogging the dolphin". I wonder if Peter let her know he was finish by blowing some salty sea water out of his blow hole onto Margret's face or something. Does anyone know?
@@tristinstorm5858 I'm sure she could see and feel the baby cells emanating from Peters peter she was stimulating. Dolphins make babies the same way mammals do. Humans can have intercourse with mammals the same way the do with humans. Bestiality is a thing...
@@tristinstorm5858 Bruh.
I'd read almost all of Lilly's books, used to go for floats fairly regularly and met him once back in the 1970s. The human/dolphin communication idea mainly suffered from having been attempted too early. It would probably have a better chance now.
There's a group currently using AI to try to decipher whale communication.
Best of luck to them.@@WaterShowsProd
Man, if we could communicate with politicians, then we’d be able to talk to aliens! They can’t seem to understand us, and we can’t understand what the heck they’re doing either.
😂
FJB
LETS GO BRANDON
Maybe we should give politicians handjobs and acid
@@ranmitrani3948 I think they already do that themselves. 😂
Children. They're doing children.
Poor Peter. People are so cruel to lab animals.
This is fascinating! I have never heard of this until now.
Yes peter knew his actions would kill him. He would've known when he was running out of air. He would've known he was fighting against the urge to just go up and breath
Comparable with pet animals that refuge to eat when they lost their human.
@@duudsuufd that is a little different. since depression can cause a lack of apatite, they may have just lost interest in food without it being a conscious decision.
@@duudsuufd refuse*
@@jacobhargiss3839 appetite*
Never had I ever corrected 2 people in 1 comment section lol 😆
i saw the notification and immediately said "WHAT" out loud
Omg me too 😂
Same 🧿🧿
For me it was like "Ah shit, here we go agin"
Bruh I was making a chicken sandwich this was more important
@@J4z_z1 mmmmmm
5:03
Talking parrots:Am I a joke to you?..
I played the Ecco game when I was a kid. It was so fun! Crazy to think it was inspired by such a strange and ultimately tragic series of events.
Arran, you are on fire to start 2023. I thought I knew about Lilly before. Your videos have been great so far this year. Keep up the good work.
Peter's death hit me right in the feels. I truly believe it was a suicide.
there have been atleast another case of zoophilia between human and dolphins (in this case, female dolphin and male human) that let to a very similar outcome where wihtout her keeper (cause he was fired and also felt disgusted of himslef after years of mating with the dolphin) she shank in the pool and refused to get breath until she died.
dolphins certainly understand love, heartbreak and suicide.
Life in prison should suffice.
@@TorturedMan-yg7wyno
The dolphin was only mad because he couldn't fuck a human woman. Replace dolphin with a man and that human woman with your daughter. You will view this differently.
The only person I want telling me about Nasa and Dolphin Porn is Thoughty2
And he changed the title like we wouldnt notice!
If you were a viewer of r/pcm (PoliticalCompassMemes), you may have heard the legend of r/do!phinf*cker69
Let's just say this guy liked to talk about dolphins...
@@Nonosir I'm sure he says "42" half the time
Casual geographic too
@@Varphi_ Yesss!!
Arran is not just the best story teller on UA-cam, he's the best storyteller I've ever heard.
Truly weird and sad especially for the dolphins to be so callously abandoned
"It's so sad for rapists of the world to be jailed. They need freedom" . This statement is also equivalent to your logic.
@@phoenixj1299 wtf? Did you find a New mount stupid??
@phoenixj1299 except women was the rapist here so your comment is dumb.
watching the title of this video change 3 times over the last hour has been quite a journey
Thoughty2 never disappoints with his jokes here and there.
I played ECCO when I was younger, in the 90's and I absolutely LOVED it! so cool to know the story behind it.
My heart breaks for Peter and his friends….😢 humans can be just awful
Specifically women. They break hearts all the time. Poor Peter got ghosted by Margaret. Justice for Peter🥲
She wants peters peter
Aren't dolphins evil tho
Fuck humans.
Animal kingdom all the way!
@♡ 𝕆𝕠𝕕𝕝𝕖𝕤_𝕆𝕗_ℕ𝕠𝕠𝕕𝕝𝕖𝕤 ♡ yeah dolphins commit arson, murder and robberies all the time
That Ecco connection just blew my mind! I loved that game. I remember it took a bizarre turn in the end I that was a bit strange.
love the Douglas Addams quote at the end. from the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. great episode keep up the great work.
I really enjoyed your narration and story-telling skills. This was fun to watch and I watched until the end. Great job and great illustrations!
I saw this story in another, hour-long documentary on UA-cam (can't remember where or how it showed up in my feed now, but there you go.) It's a really sad and messed-up experiment, due in large part to huge naivety on the part of the researchers involved. Margaret crossed the line when she started interacting in a more intimate way with Peter - not just for the obvious reasons, but because she must've known she was creating a bond that would devastate Peter once it (inevitably) had to be broken. And as for using LSD...!
@thoughty2 love your videos. They are always well laid out and they flow perfectly. You do a great job of truly telling a story and it makes taking in the information more enjoyable. I do have one serious question for you. Do you ever age? I swear over the years you just dont age man. :D keep up the good work i look forward to your future productions.
I feel like you're the only channel I like watching EVERY video from. Love your stuff!!! Don't ever stop
"So long and thanks for all the fish." You got my sub! I grinned for a while at that.
I was genuinely hoping the male dolphin was named "Randy." But you know what, Peter is a good 2nd option.
how about Jack...
I like peter, peter from portlandia immediately comes to mind
They could have named him Robert. Dick for short. Robert Johnson has a nice ring to it. 😂
Peter's peter passionately pounded a person's palm, how many palmings did Peter's peter pound?
Richard would be good as well...
A perfect example of why we should leave the natural world….., well, natural.
Rest in peace, Peter. 💔
My grandma had a dog named Spike and a parakeet named Pete. She didn't allow Spike on the furniture. When she'd see him on the couch, she'd say, "Down Spike, down. " When Grandma was busy in another part of the house, Spike would try to sneak up on the couch. Pete knew he didn't belong there and would say, "Down Spike, down!" The bird would narc him out every time! All Spike could do was give Pete a dirty look because Pete was always safe in his cage. Needless to say, Spike had an intense dislike for Pete. Even little birds like parakeets are smart. I was very young at the time, but I figured Pete was a lot smarter than Spike. 😂
I did not expect this video to have a tragic side to it. Poor Peter.
When dolphins getting more action then you, really makes you want to start rethinking your priorities 😅
It makes you rethink your porpoise in life.
Yeah, I can't even get a number.
The 60s were a different time...
You could always call NASA and see if they wanna go out?
I wish my teacher did this for me
Oh my, that final line is classic- bravo!
Great video! I had heard this story before but I learned so much more today. And the story is even stranger that I thought! I love "truth is better than fiction" type stories.
True, but in my own fiction Margaret’s first child ends up having fins
@@CantTellYou I'd buy that salty book!
I heard it years ago from RoosterTeeth animated shorts but I'm not quite sure how those guys heard about it to begin with
The reveal of it being the inspiration for Ecco the dolphin absolutely blew my mind
LoL gotta love it man!!! I've heard this crazy ass story countless times and it never gets old.
The first inter-species communication just happened. The dolphin message was translated and said, 'The extended warranty on your vehicle is about to expire'.
it is MINDBLOWING that a dolphin unalived himself over the love from a human being; this changes SO much i think
there is a video of young pm Baerbock calling for sex with animals and children to be legalized. She just arrived (post many surgeries) to speak for The U.S in a plane with a Nazi Iron Cross on the side: same one Hitler wore on his label, and has ...Nazi Pig Eugenics written all over her. Why do Nazis fetishize pigs, (and mkultra *chimps*) so much?
First of all i think they are mentally ill. They have a thrive for these animals because they think accomplishing thinks in this area will bring them any sort of advantage of something or somebody. I dont think ANYONE can really understand what is going on with groups in these shape or forms. Sometimes we just cant explain everything. The problem lies within the failure of a whole society and their motivation to move a certain way.
They also gang rape female dolphins
The dolphin was only mad because he couldn't fuck a human woman. Replace dolphin with a man and that human woman with your daughter. You will view this differently.
I miss these videos from you man!
Plot twist: Peter was speaking back with echolocation the whole time and was wondering what's wrong with those dumbos
Nice ending with the reference to your namesake......But it sounds like Peter was giving thanks for more than just fish......But sadly, in the end..... his life just didn't have porpoise anymore😂😂
This video was so interesting, I haven’t watched your videos in over 3 years, wow it’s been so long😮
I know it's messed up, but that doesn't make it any less sad the way that it turned out. I remember this story
That's kinda messed up Margaret never went to visit Peter after he was relocated...how can one spend so much time with such an intelligent animal and just...move on overnight? Especially after doing what she did. Dolphins are smart. Poor Peter would have been so lost and confused :(
She should have tried to figure out some way to save the dolphins. I'm sure it was harder back then to get people to care about issues like that though.
@@Beastgirl222 I'm really thinking they wouldn't let her visit Peter again...for whatever reason.
The ONLY other reason I can think of, is that SHE felt so traumatized after realizing what all she was a part of, she couldn't handle it herself. But she was also a scientist (more or less) who knew what she was signing up for. And if she met some guy soon after and went on to raise a happy family...idk this seem unlikely.
However, it was a classified CIA project, and the CIA did some messed up stuff, so I'm really thinking they maybe wanted to remove any trace of the experiment, and so purposely kept her away. So sad, poor Peter, breaks my heart...
@@drewg4323 Agreed, if she was dedicated enough to move in and live in a water-filled apartment, I don't believe she would have willingly stopped seeing the dolphins. It's much more likely she simply wasn't allowed to see them anymore.
Women are like that, its in their genetics and thats facts.
Peter run out of money.
Loved Ecco! My wife and I bring it up every once in a while randomly. Great game!
This reminds me of the episode of Drunk History told by Duncan Trussel. "The Study That Involved Dolphin Sex and LSD". ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!
It all started when someone realized a dolphin could deliver pizza.
Imagine one of those floating bar type places where it's a big lazy river that's pretty much lined the whole way with a bar area and stools that you can sit on, remaining in the water while enjoying the food/drinks...that, but with dolphins delivering the food to the customers and getting pet for a tip (or maybe a fish) before swimming on back
People get to float the lazy river and have dolphins swimming around em the whole time too
sounds nice but they need a union and therefore learn to speak English first, animals
@@jackryan4313 they would have flippers children
@@juanedoses8715 huh?
I identify as a dolphin from now on.
NASA: we will have an experiment trying to teach dolphins english
Meanwhile Margaret Howe Lovatt: we do a little trolling
Q: Why was the dolphin depressed?
A: He didn't have a porpoise.
I love the movie reference at the end 🤣
"So long and thanks for all the fish" 🤣
Awesome video, I remember playing that video game, also, great trivia 😂
I know the whole thing is crazy but something else I find crazy is the fact you want someone to literally teach a dolphin to talk and you expect quick results.. Like, what? Lmao..
I remember the dolphin game on SEGA.
I was not aware of the abuse that dolphins were subjected to.
However, I actively avoid SeaWorld parks, circuses and rodeos to this day due to animal abuse and cruelty.
I have heard a garbled version of this story, about a woman and a dolphin who were supposed to have fallen in love, but how she decided to abandon him in the end. It must have been based on this, although at the time I just thought it was nonsense.
So In my opinion as a chemistry graduate, I can conclude that NASA's dolphin experiments were controversial for several reasons. In the 1960s and 1970s, NASA conducted a series of experiments with dolphins to study their ability to communicate and to potentially use them for military purposes.
Some of the specific controversies surrounding these experiments include:
Ethics of animal testing: Many people objected to the use of dolphins in scientific experiments, arguing that it was cruel and inhumane to subject intelligent, social animals to such conditions.
Animal rights: Animal rights activists argued that dolphins have the right to live their lives free from human interference, and that it was wrong to use them for military purposes.
Military applications: Some people were concerned that the experiments were aimed at developing ways to use dolphins as weapons, which they viewed as morally objectionable.
Scientific validity: Some scientists criticized the experiments, arguing that they were not well-designed and that the results were inconclusive.
Overall, the controversy surrounding NASA's dolphin experiments highlighted larger questions about the ethics of animal testing and the use of animals for military purposes.
Not as controversial, but in 2017 UC Berkeley reported on a 2 year, million dollar research project about why shoelaces come untied and what the best way to tie them is 👍
Did they actually find a solution?
9:08 “To put it lightly, it was… A BIG ASK!” is hands down the funniest scene on this channel. I died for a bit.
the experiement could have worked if they would have tried using non vocal comunication or if they would have given the dolphine a machine that speaks the words the dolphine wants to use by pressing buttons with his nose
I had actually heard about this "experiment" before. Still enjoyable to hear about it again even if the subject is a bit insane
Oh, i remember this from Drunk History. Loved how you put in more details
Dolphins are awesome mammals. I believe they are self aware and do feel love and pain. Thanks for another awesome story Thoughty2!
Cetaceans are just awesome. An orca named "Old Tom" near Eden, New South Wales, Australia even figured out how to get a job as a whale herder with the local whaling industry (for 25 whole years!), getting paid in tongues and livers which he shared with his pod. "Old Tom" loved his job so much that when a diving whale capsized a whaling ship nearby he rescued the crew and ferried them ashore 2 at a time until they were all safe.
Animals in general are much smarter then most people think. This may sound strange, but I have a farm pig and I'm surprised how smart he is. He opens the door to enter the house and eat dog's food, if I tell him to go back to his coop, he imidiatly does so, responds to his name, if he is near my dog (they play together) and I call the dog he knows that I'm not calling him. I really think that Smart animals are to some extent self aware.
@@cristianandrei5462 Perhaps even smarter, animals aren't trying to destroy the only home they have. Like einstein said, no mouse would build a mouse trap.
Most higher animals have some degree of awareness, and so most are capable of feeling pain, not only dolphins, even horses seem to have joined the group of animals that passed the mirror test and not only mammals, birds and reptiles can as well be capable of awareness and experiencing pain.
They are one of the few animals intelligent enough to be properly malicious assholes.
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I think the fact that Peter fell in love with Margaret and viceversa was proof that the experiment was a success, and communication between species is indeed possible…
At least could prove love can be possible with any different individuals, even from different species !
I've actually heard of this. In the words of the Dolphins themselves, it was freaking awesome!
Man I haven't thought about Ecco the dolphin for like 20 years lol
Crazy and hilarious, incredible vid!
Dr ends up tripping his way thru Nasa's budget
There's poetry in that
John Lilly’s lsd/isolation tank experiments was the inspiration behind the 80’s sci fi movie “Altered States” starring John Hurt…
The experiments trying to teach them to speak, was the inspiration behind the 73 movie “Day of the Dolphin” starring George C. Scott…
Yes, whenever I hear of isolation tanks I think of Altered States, and the Alan Arkin movie Simon where he emerges from an extended stay in an isolation tank convinced that he's an alien from another planet.
I could totally picture Peter's state of mind. I remember my first loves and when they ended some times it felt like my heart was ripped out. Imagine that plus not being able to understand why she left...
So you are fine with a dolphin smashing your daughter. Truly a great father.
I feel so bad for the dolphins they didn’t deserve that!Its truly disgusting that they had been kept there for years in a gross tank Rip🕊️🐬
today we actually are able to communicate somewhat with dolphins and whales.
finding that different pods even have different dialects.
we've come a long way since the 60s.
I’m so happy for the last comment, I’d thought about that about halfway through. Never knew that about Ecco.. played it quite a bit growing up.
Awesome to see a new video!!! Especially funny title for this one. 😂
In 57 years I’d never heard this story. Good work here mate.
Poor Peter. To end up in a place like that is unconscionable and obviously traumatic. You’d think that with his importance within this study, they would have at least attempted to ensure proper care after the experiment ended. Just from this show, you’d think the bond bn Margret and Peter was so strong that she would’ve advocated for him. Poor dolphin commits suicide while she made a family in her small dolphin house built for him. Then seemingly forgets about him. Beyond sad.
You try to find some place where you can house 3 dolphins in Miami in the 1960's! There was only Marineland, and Lilly had outstayed his welcome there when, years earlier, he had killed several healthy specimens before realizing that, unlike land mammals, dolphins have NO BREATHING REFLEX! Every breath is a conscious act of will, and if you anesthetize them, as Lilly was doing to map their brains with electrodes, they suffocate. He finally built a working respirator, and got his research done, but Dr. Forrest Wood, the Marineland veterinarian, never forgave him the deaths of those dolphins. So Lilly may have had no other place to go, and for some reason he was unwilling to rehabilitate those dolphins and return them to the ocean, as later projects did. (Sources: J.C. Lilly, personal conversations; "Marine Mammals and Man," by F. G. Wood; "Man and Dolphin," by J. C. Lilly; "The Dolphin Chronicles," by Carol J. Howard; and communications from the Sarasota Dolphin Research Program.)