Pastor Philip Mitchell took the time this past Sunday to rebuke online influencers for "taking his words out of context". Did social media misinterpret his words?
I think the problem with channels such as yours is that eventually, you fall into some of these same categories that speak on. There is no way God told you to make channel thats main focus is to critique others for the benefit of Gods will, which is that all men come to him. Only his word can change the hearts of men, and your so-called discernment is only an instrument of discord and not the uplifting God and his greatest. All men fall short, so to make a channel pointing out shortcomings when you are included in the "All MEN" is mind-boggling when the notion is you are being led by God to do this. People such as yourself have chosen content over conviction, and it shows. The passive-aggressive monotone reactions doesnt hide your true nature. You are no better the PAM who i also believe is disingenuous. Repent if you are a true believer because this isn't God's plan for those that are called by him to do his will and not your own.
Skrrrrt hold up because I go to 2819 Church and have been when it was Victory Church. That man is spirit filled and he allows the Lord to use him. I know him personally and love the way God is using him. May God be glorified!!
You can say whatever you want!! But I’m looking at the fruit that’s following him!! People are giving their lives to God!! Being set free and delivered!! Souls are being saved!!! That right there!! Is alright with me!! And I praise God for it!!!
Can someone get saved from false doctrine? Yes then they move onto another church centered church. We hear of Mormons, Hindus, Muslims, etc having an interaction with Christ and becoming a Christian. Yes. Could he have kept this private and brought the need to the church months if not years before the need arose? Yes. He seems genuine but overwhelmed. Why doesn’t he have a group of elders to help carry the load? Why the music in the background? This just smells fishy. Lord be given all glory and honor in this situation. The judgement of God comes to the church first.
Cult? You really are fishing for some views. This man is preaching from the word of God and not his opinions. You obviously lack spiritual discernment. You will be in my prayers.
People didn't think he was asking for money. People saw a community in need and wanted to contribute on their own accord towards a church where believers can gather to worship and glorify God.
@@TytusJones . The first statement, "we can raise 15 million dollars," is a declaration of capability and confidence. It implies that the organization or individual has a plan, a strategy, and the resources to achieve this ambitious goal. This statement is more focused on the potential and the possibility of raising the funds. On the other hand, "asking people for money to raise 15 million dollars" is a more direct and explicit request for financial support. This statement is clear about the intention to solicit donations or contributions from others to reach the desired goal.
The first statement, "we can raise 15 million dollars," is a declaration of capability and confidence. It implies that the organization or individual has a plan, a strategy, and the resources to achieve this ambitious goal. This statement is more focused on the potential and the possibility of raising the funds. On the other hand, "asking people for money to raise 15 million dollars" is a more direct and explicit request for financial support. This statement is clear about the intention to solicit donations or contributions from others to reach the desired goal.
This sister is always looking for fault and in some ways plays the accuser. I hope you pray for these people just as much as you gossip and judge them. Even those who are genuinely doing God's work with sincerity don’t seem to meet your standards.
I’m not here to defend Pastor Philip or 2819 or any other church. But I am here to say that I have been in manipulative controlling and cult like churches where the pastor was the king (touch not my anointed) and threatened his enemies. I have also been to a church that had rapid and explosive growth that greatly inconvenienced the neighborhood. Yes the church took an “us against them “ stance because it identified any threat to the ministry as being against God. In reality the neighborhood only wanted to be able to get out of their driveway in the morning without being blocked in. It’s not so much the church causing the problems but the many visitors who park anywhere and everywhere to see the spectacle. It is a huge challenge for both sides and unfortunate. That said, I hate that so many internet podcasters who have a peanut gallery view of the church have so many opinions about what any church should do or how to raise money or effectively mobilize people in such situations. Internet and social media access to these leaders is giving outsiders a false sense of knowing more than they actually understand. If you have not been a pastor facing these multiple and conflicting concerns, it might be best to provide just a little grace when passionate leaders don’t do everything perfectly in the public eye. You don’t have the benefit of seeing behind the scenes into prayer closets, board rooms, members meetings, people leaving or seeking to leverage the church success for personal gain, or endless searches for space to house a growing diverse congregation. The implication that 2819 is potentially a cult is concerning because it doesn’t paint an accurate picture of the church. Yes in this social media world there is a new draw toward charismatic and passionate leaders more than before, but that can be both good and bad depending on the heart of the leader. You make it so this man can’t win regardless of his transparency or authenticity…
This was VERY well said and I agree. I have seen interviews and sermons of Pastor Phillip Mitchell and is heart is genuinely for serving the Lord and doing his will by all means. To see that he could be looked at as being a potential cult leader is disturbing and concerning at the same time. I truly believe his heart intentions were not and are not about the narrative that social media is trying to put out there. I appreciate his ministry and how the Lord is using him during these end times. 🙏🏾❤
This was said SO PERFECTLY!! I also stand in total agreement with this comment! Attaching a narrative that Pastor Mitchell and 2819 is a "Cult in the making" is disturbing when it does not accurately paint a correct picture of his ministry, nor him as a spiritual leader. He is passion-filled about saving souls, and on FIRE for God & that is not everybody's cup of tea! Especially when we live in a world where there are soothsayers, and false prophets EVERYWHERE that are deceiving souls and leading them AWAY from God. I truly believe he has been transparent, genuine, and authentic, and its videos like this that stray people away from being lead by someone who wants nothing more than to save your soul. God Bless!
Many internet vloggers are doing the same things that they criticize other preachers doing---going after the money, fame and increased followership. On social media, the more controversial the content the more people tend to be drawn to the channel. Afterward, the channel becomes monetized and the money begins to grow and flow. Can you see why it's always negative content on most of these "decerning" videobloggers now? I am not necessarily saying this is true for this channel but most of them are in it for the money, and find their significance not in Jesus but in attracting others to their (biased) point of view. Content creators, like teachers, must also be very careful because they will be judged for what they feed the people just like the preachers they seek to expose.
I have watched a couple of these videos and I'm sorry, the overall video content of this channel is far from being theologically sound. Real theology is not done by critiquing video clips of preachers--often taken out of context--but true theology happens in community, among well-trained and biblically sound scholars who are adept at presenting and defending their arguments concerning what is or is not truth as pertaining to Scripture. And this is always done within a particular context or framework. However, what this channel seems to be doing is "gossip," in the name of theology. The content does not edify the audience nor does it bring anyone closer to Jesus Christ. Instead content like this (and there is a lot of it today) creates suspicion, fear and pessimism. You probably mean well but again, this content is not theological, it is more like entertainment that appeals to typical cynical social media lurkers who are always looking out for failure in others--especially leaders--but miss their own blind spots. Others do it grow their channel viewer count which--means more money in their pockets from YT; which I associate with Scripture's condemnation of seeking "filthy lucre" (Titus 1:11).
The church fathers and Christian apologists of antiquity made public critiques. Your comment is an attack on the video but not an attack on the concerns raised in the video. Can you be specific about what you disagree with?
@TytusJones Do you read the comments after watching his sermons. People are being directed to search the scriptures. Young people are drawn to the word. People are saying they are convicted for the first time. This is the move of God, Philip Anthony Mitchell is just a vessel.
@@TytusJones That a fair point, but you are not a church father. In order to create meaningful dialogue that leads to truth, and promptly addresses potential heresies is not done on a social media platform--consisting mostly of a bunch of theologically uniformed entertainment seekers, but is best done among those who have been trained to do exegesis along with a lot of spiritual discernment and common sense. Again, the end goal is to find clarity that leads to edification and unity. Your "expose" fails to achieve any of this.
This whole video was annoying. I usually try to hear you out but you chose some interesting words “from afar” and that’s abundantly clear. You’re not listening to entire messages for understanding. But you’re clearly watching snippets for clicks. You are blurring the line of honor and idolatry. I don’t know one cult leader (past or present) that avoids being praised or worshipped. That is not the environment of 2819 church. Pastor Phillip rejects it at all costs.
I’ve watched tons of his full sermons. I appreciate you hearing me out even if we don’t agree. I used to be annoyed at certain discernment channels too before I learned more about the specifics of Christianity. Some of those channels have now become some of my favorite creators even though we don’t always agree. Even if that’s not the case here, I appreciate your feedback.
There is nothing wrong with 2819 at all they did the same thing to Jesus correct? The modern day, Pharisees and religious leaders did they not or did they not oppose the disciples who were preaching the gospel? Did they not try to slander the name of Jesus Christ slander the name of the disciples? Or anyone who followed Christ you should have prayed before you Made these statements and video it’s misleading
@@TytusJones I’ve seen many of your reaction/response videos. I find it hard to believe that you would make a statement eluding to 2819 being a cult if you have in fact watched his sermons. The two just don’t add up.
It's disguisting I pray this sister Miss Tytus realizes how much of a stumbling block this TMZ stuff is. This looks so foolish to non believers and Christian babes and is sowing nothing but confusion in them
I’m starting to think JHP doesn’t want yall to think critically. It’s easier to train your followers to dismiss the naysayers than to train them to process the arguments of the naysayers.
@@TytusJones did you see what Jackie said about this on Jada Edwards podcast? Because it was all facts. If anything she was doing what you just said and got people to critically look at it instead of thinking "TMZ" content on a platform from someone who is supposed to be a CHRISTIAN is normal. C'mon sister..... please ask yourself if this is helping the body of Christ or hurting it. If GOD told you in prayer to delete all your call-out videos and change the direction of the content on your channel......would you do it? Or would you be more attached to the clicks/views/subs from the videos? I'm trying to help you see how many content creators are exalting their youtube platform over God himself......
Pastor Mitchel typically preaches for over an hour, and taking a few minutes to address the public doesn’t mean he is deviating from his message. No pastor is perfect in wisdom, so we shouldn’t be overly critical. Jesus called people vipers and dog and John the Baptist called people vipers (who where not even directly offending them), I appreciate what you do, Miss Tytus, but please be mindful not to become a stumbling block to the work God is doing through a faithful and bold minister like Pastor Mitchel. It’s important not to be swayed by the urge to critique, especially on trivial matters, whether the are viral or not. I’m not part of 2819, but I can see that Pastor Mitchel is doing a great job and making a real impact on people’s lives while also on his own perfection journey.
2819 pastor is to emotional he needs to breathe. And certain words as not just a pastor or even a Christian and Disciple we should now use certain words especially those word that keep people visuals in people minds. It’s not biblical to say you’re being real. That’s not preaching that’s being in self!! Period!
I appreciate your heart for Pastor Mitchel. I don’t follow his ministry, but from the clips shared, his response came across as prideful. I want to approach this with humility, but we do need to be mindful of whether his behavior aligns with the biblical qualifications for an elder, as outlined in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1. And I do recognize that Scripture calls us to respond with humility and love, even when addressing criticism. Jesus and John the Baptist spoke strongly against those rejecting God’s truth, but our public responses should reflect grace and wisdom (James 1:19, Ephesians 4:29). Furthermore, Scripture calls pastors to be examples of humility, not arrogance or defensiveness (1 Peter 5:3). If a pastor is putting his ministry online for the world to see, it’s reasonable for others to critique-not to tear down, but to discern if the behavior and teaching are aligned with Scripture. The Bible encourages believers to hold each other accountable (Galatians 6:1), and in a public ministry context, accountability is especially important. Pastor Mitchel's leadership, like all elders, is subject to the same biblical standards (1 Timothy 3:2-7). I hope this comes across in a spirit of humility, as I know this is a conversation we all can learn from.
@@anotheperspective unfortunately it seems like the sister Miss Tytus doesn't even care. Many have pointed out to her including myself (even gave real examples) of how she is being a stumbling block with her channel. Very concerning, because even if she thinks she's right in making these videos and some are ok with it there is still clear division being created and at bare mininum there are people who are being stumbled. How can you call yourself a Christian, care about God's Kingdom but then brush that off? All becuz you value the recognition, subscribers, attention you have gotten from your channel? More than God? Smh. C'mon sister Tytus this is not right
@@ChrissieThefirst no sir it's not "real theological concerns", it's being hyper nitpicky out of desire and ulterior motives and using "real theological concerns" as a reason to create division and cause people to stumble. To the point where you will find anything to discredit a man like Philip who has faithfully served God for decades and built a whole Church ministry that God has clearly raised up to lead many souls to Christ. Meanwhile these channels are what's coming against that in God's Kingdom. Not saying Miss Tytus, I'm saying basically everyone with these types of channels doing that
I couldn't even finish this video Have you guys read your Bible?? How may times did Jesus address the naysayers?? A few times correct?? Instead of making videos about pastors and disrespectful at that why don't you seek God and the word to help the world get closer to him. Or better yet pray for pastor Philip 🙏🏾 instead of whatever this is. And yes Atlanta most definitely need a Bible teaching church that's teaching people to love God live for God keep your self holy unto God. It definitely needs it. For this Perverse Generation. Use your platform for Gods glory you're out of order and need to repent respectfully. God Blessings
@NicoleLovesJesus-hh9wr that part, I stopped going to church for almost 5yrs because they didn't line up with the Bible not even close especially with teaching the Disciples to be holy unto God. Until I came across 2819 on social
I understand your concern and your passion for honoring God and supporting pastors. I agree that we need more Bible-teaching churches, especially in a world that is lost and in need of Christ. However, I think it’s important to remember that Jesus didn’t shy away from calling out the behavior of the Pharisees and religious leaders when they were not living according to God’s truth (Matthew 23:13-36). His critiques were always aimed at helping people turn back to God and follow His commands, not out of hostility, but out of love for them and the truth. If a pastor, or any leader, responds to criticism with hostility and pride, it can be concerning because it sets an example for the congregation. The Bible teaches that elders are to be humble, gentle, and examples to the flock (1 Peter 5:3, 1 Timothy 3:2). Our goal in critiquing behavior-whether from a pastor or anyone else-isn’t to disrespect, but to call attention to actions that might not align with Scripture, in order to encourage repentance and growth (Galatians 6:1). It’s also true that we should pray for leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-2) and support them, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also hold them accountable to God’s Word. As believers, we are called to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) and to care for the body of Christ by addressing issues that may cause harm to others or lead people astray. I hope my words come across in the spirit of humility, and I truly appreciate your concern for the church and for the advancement of God’s Kingdom. Let’s continue to seek God’s guidance and use our platforms to glorify Him, with hearts that desire to grow in truth and love.
Do you frequently pray about what you post? Even Paul addresses people who gave to his ministry and made it known that he was about the gospel and integrity in himself and the congregation. 2Corinthians 8:20-21. No dig against you, but it’s a lot of “nothing is good enough” type attitude as if you sit on a throne of what’s “real Christianity”. Yes I agree that we are to call out wolves. Yes I definitely agree that everything is up for criticism on YT. I agree that no church is perfect. They have flaws but like Paul says in 1Corinthians 1:11 “Follow me as a I follow Christ”, he’s definitely following Christ from what I can see. I’m sure there are people that are in your life that you follow as they sincerely follow Christ. If there is something needs to be addressed in his behavior or attitude then let’s pray for God to fix it. He is striving like the rest of us. And the fact that the opposite effect (idolatry) happens in the hearts of men when he says “don’t idolize me” that’s not his fault; that’s the fault of the person committing that sin which God will deal with.
Ok, I must continue, Leadership is NOT an easy thing. 2819 has a Strong Pastor, that does not bend to the norms of the Atlanta presures that others have bent to. He is entitled to be unsettling and upsetting, humans make error. How about you ask your followers to pray for them, and not sew discord.....instead of encouraging folks to leave. Nothing bad is going on....... He is Strong and Very Courageous
This was a bad take. The Holy Spirit is moving at 2819... Pastor Phillip is the vessel God chose...a very imperfect man...but discernment goes both ways...it is helpful to be able to discern not only when evil spirits are at work ..but also when the Holy Spirit is moving.
I don’t understand why anyone would think this pastor is perfect he mention many times his not I listen to his preaching not bc of him but what the words says who ever goes to church to see what others are doing should stay home and this man speaks the word and I love his realness and his human at the end of the day
I think some of yall got too much time on yall hand. Can't handle the fact that the man deviates from church fluff and foolishness. If he is wongr PRAY FOR HIM!!!. I'm not a member there, but I read my Bible and I recognize word.
I've attended a 2819 service and nope... doesn't line up with the personality cult or toxic church description that you MIGHT be trying to suggest. Using clips out of context is what is toxic here.
Hey, although I appreciate your content but I pray for your heart. Even in your "mocking" of his words, you've moved more towards a "heresy hunter". This has become content just to content.
@christopherroberts8429 I stand with you in agreement and prayer brother! I too used to appreciate her content and enlightening (so I thought) videos, but this is so sad.. from the caption, to the twisting and mocking of the announcement made! I pray she makes content about spreading the GOOD NEWS of Christ, and receives discernment from GOD before doing another video like this.
welll u are call it heresy hunting but 20 years later when y'all are back exposing the same ppl it's the little things that you will say, i should have seen it coming, Look to Jesus & live
ISAIAH 5:20-23 GALATIANS 6:1-4 If we focus on the faults of men, we will never see Christ! ALL have Sin!!! Imagine the impact of taking this same time to preach the Gospel of Christ and praying for brother Phillip and 2819. Being mindful when our hour shall come! Lord, be merciful on us all! Help us put away the pointing of the finger and more preaching Jesus Christ!
@Cataliina_mariia Good morning. This is Jesus talking; Matthew 10:16! I don't blame you, I wouldn't follow a wolf either, but He sends his followers (disciples) there. We pray for your distrust in men and churches, but don't bury His treasure or dim the light , sheep beget sheep, Christ will deal with the wolves. We can spend a lifetime finding faults and pointing fingers but heaven rejoice when a soul repent and is saved. Let us focus on soul winning!!!! Matthew 9:54-56. Lord be merciful to us all!
When did I call it a cult? Let me know the timestamp. It’s ok to call a cult a cult if it’s a cult btw - that’s called truth. If it meets the standards of a personality cult, then why can’t you call it a personality cult?
@@TytusJones Okay so there's a few discrepancies in what you said, and I want to point them out in LOVING correction to you sis. One, U asked "When did I call it a cult" THEN u said "It's OK to call a cult a cult if its a cult btw" THAT is called CONTRADICTION Ty. To answer BOTH of those, U called it a CULT in your description/Title. (To then be dismissive like "where I say that?" Is...off) & SURE it's okay to call something out IF in truth, however where is your PROOF for calling this mans ministry a cult? *Other than how u feel?
I am sorry but you either aren't listening or not pay attention to what's being said. It seems you are more interested in being right and onto a a trend or something. You missed the entire point. I am not even part of this church. Please do your due homework first before you speak.
He was just telling them what the plan is what the options were what the problem is and what is needed to do it. It's good to clear up confusion when it occurs because people are easily influenced by gossip and Atlanta is a place where gossip moves around fast
First off, this is not an attack on you as a person-it’s a plea for your soul. We live in a society where clout and controversy bring attention, but we must be careful not to cross the line from defending the faith to tearing down the shepherds God has placed over His people. “Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.” (Psalm 105:15) Why are you attacking Black men of God and yes Ministers of God period ( i know race isn't the point but when i see a pattern I have to atleast point it out) as if they don’t already have enough coming against them? This is spiritual warfare, and whether you realize it or not, you are aiding the enemy. “Satan is the accuser of the brethren” (Revelation 12:10), and right now, you're doing his job for him. I pray that when God moves on your heart, you will be more discerning about where you aim your criticism. It’s not cute. It’s not cool. And I don’t expect you to receive this rebuke, but I pray you will. Because right now, your teaching comes across as cultish. The way some content creators attack preachers who stand on the Word-though they are not perfect-is out of control. And to lump them together with false teachers like Mike Todd? That says a lot about your integrity. Even if you didn’t say it outright, you insinuated it-and deception is still deception. “A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is His delight.” (Proverbs 11:1) God bless you, but maybe you should do a video on yourself-using the same tone: passive-aggressive, mixing truth with lies, sarcastic, facetious, spreading misinformation. You seem to have a PhD in propagating fallacies while masquerading as a fact-checker. But where is your accountability? Do you have a church? A pastor? Do you seek wise counsel, or are you your own authority? “Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.” (Proverbs 11:14) Let me be clear-I don’t go to 2819 and probably never will. My mission field is in the streets, in my community, in prisons, in crack houses. I focus on discipleship, training, and spreading the gospel. I live this faith daily, not just talk about it or make videos for clicks. So I ask you-how do you watch his sermons and come back with this rhetoric? If you want to find flaws, you will. If you want to highlight imperfections, you can. If you want to critique growing pains, that’s your choice. But before you pull back someone else’s curtain, be sure you're ready for us to pull back yours. “Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?” (Matthew 7:3) I say this in love, hoping you’ll hear it. But whether you do or not, the truth stands. And if you wondering why am I defending Him it is the same reason I would stand up for you if you were standing up for right. But imo you are missing the mark!
Man I’m not gonna let you and saiko woods keep slandering my bro, make your corny content but please keep 2819 out of it, where was all yall when it was victory church, all this man does is serve god and serve people, the fact yall keep coming for him just for content is crazy. Praying for your heart smh.
Praying for your heart? 😭 what? 😭😭 You don’t think you are being a bit dramatic? I pray Mitchell is good and has good intentions but you are acting like he can’t be wrong. That’s dangerous.
Yes he’s a man like me and you but he’s also a leader in the Christian body who is responsible for all the people that follow him. Leaders in the church are held to another standard. If leaders hurt the sheep and the sheep leaves. That’s bad! Especially without accountability or confession. That’s not acceptable in the body of Christ and God makes that clear.
Delete this video and stop click baiting! If you are a true follower of Christ, restore our brothers and sisters instead of trying to get subscribers for slandering! There are more serious things to talk about! Instead of throwing bricks at what God's doing at 2819, grab one and get to work to help them spread God's kingdom.
I really want to ask you something: what do you have against Phillip Mitchell? You showed clips, and I watched them and observed. I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying, and he's not guilty of what you're accusing him of. So, what's the real problem? You didn't even give the clips time to play longer, so we could grasp a better understanding. All you did was play short snippets from a whole video, and then you did most of the talking. What's really the issue, because everything you're saying seems unfounded?
Bruh man could have easily addressed his naysayers publicly on their platform though he clearly aimed to gain backing from his congregation and to dissuade people from coming to the RIGHT conclusion. So let's go through what PAM has done. 1. Called property authoritarian Karens for upholding zoning laws. 2. Most likely knew that his congregation has been affecting the neighborhood though has done nothing about it - no love for one's neighbor. 3. Garnered sympathy of his congregation and those watching for to give money by stating a price. 4. Praising himself like a Pharisee by saying that he did not ask for a collection in a large arena. 5. Took money from a false prophets who fleece the flock. 6. Continuously states how he prepares for his sermons, how long he prays - this is narcissistic behavior. 7. Manipulates the congregation with music, lighting, and emotionality, AND theatrics. 8. Eisegeting the text many times. 9. Foul language from the pulpit as the following statements/phrases "pipe game", "digging out the box", "damn" "hell"-not as to reference the place but as an emphatic statement. All of which is wrong. To naysayers. Please show me in the Bible where Jesus/ Apostles have done the above.
As I was listening, my 68 yr old mom heard you and asked, "Is that someone else talking about Trump?" I said, "No." She's talking about the 2819 Pastor again. This spoke volumes to me. Your comentary has the same sound as worldly commentary. The cynical moments and "under the belt" hits were just uncalled for. I remember how the apologetics community LOVED Ravi🤔...and look what happened. Anyway, you've made your point. Now, leave the man alone. If he is in the wrong, the Lord will take care of it. Let's simply keep the brother in prayer.
Wow. Amen. You have "beaten the dead horse" at this point. Let's move on to something else, like white Christian nationalism and its damage to the body of Christ. I usually like this page, but you are cynical and unrelenting regarding Pastor Mitchell. Ok, he did some name-calling. How does that cancel how God is using him? When are you going to show him some grace @tytusjones
@@TytusJones not at all. I just know that it's a poison. I'm a graduate of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and this is my 25th year serving as a youth minister. Keep up the good theological work. It is necessary.
Did you create a video about Donald Trump promoting the Trump Bible? Clearly, he is not the right person to be endorsing the Bible, as he likely disagrees with some of your theological positions. Yet you have remained silent on this issue, while you are quick to find faults with Pam.
@LuckyCharmsssssss nothing it sounds she is calling into question her consitency in how she addresses people she makes video about. It is plausible to call into questions the content of her videos if the way she adresses people are not consistent with what she claims her morals and values are. In other words what is good for the goose is good for the gander!
It’s called selective outrage. Clearly, Donald Trump is not the person who should be promoting the Bible, yet she remained silent on this issue. That’s what I’m talking about.
No its not a cult. When the world stands up for itself . People cheer even for evil stuff. But the righteous are as bold as a Lion. Christian are not supposed to be weak. We are not the ones who shrink back . Funny people won't mock the world. But will mock God in a minute. The man stands for Xhrist and not carnal minded worldly people. Who calls themselves Christian.
I just started following you and not even a week later you post on good people who serve the Father just to get views....??? It's not funny nor is it a good look ma'am. I pray you at least spend time with Yesuha and seek guidance instead of attention 🙏🏽 blessings 🙌🏽
It seems you are anticipating something negative to happen in 2819. However, you support Seko Wood, who disrespects fellow believers. But you say nothing about him.
@TytusJones, do you watch SW's videos? You referenced PAM using the term "Karen" and stated that he should not have done that. However, SW regularly insults people. Have you posted any comments addressing his insulting behavior? If not, it seems that you are supporting his actions.
One word, REPENT from a critical spirit - it is not of God! People are lost and on their way yo hell...Anyone caught up in this are treading on dangerous ground! Watch it!
You are always so negative on people seeking to do good. Use your platform to uplift. This young pastor is doing a tremendous job bringing light with the scriptures in a world where so many wolves are walking around in sheep clothing, but all you do is spout negativity for what? Clicks!!
I’m not a pastor, I’m a content creator. Good content creators engage with the people that watch them, even when we disagree. Pastors are supposed to preach the Gospel, not throw shade from the pulpit because of the criticism. As Christians we’re called to be targets for criticism and to handle it with maturity. As you say, context matters.
@@TytusJones Regardless of being a "content creator" as a CHRISTIAN you should be uplifting others as the bible tells us to.. If you don't have anything nice to say, you should lead yourself & your followers to PRAY for him and his church! If something is not of God, ask it to be revealed and that you can have discernment to know the difference! I am not a member of 2819, but I do watch pastor Mitchell and believe he is TRULY on fire for God. I pray that you being a "content creator" does not cloud your duty as a believer in Christ, which is to SPREAD THE GOSPEL, be kind, and love all! God Bless you!
here is the thing, i think Christians we have messed up, because we have created a culture of having a person who is venerated yet people left Catholicism 4 this same reason let's be honest here why are people drawn to this kind of church activity we can't just blame the pastors something is happening inside you as a person, that's why you can't fathom people bringing up real theological concerns about the METHODS a pastor is using, all the time Christians refuse 2 be warned, and it's always us women we are very vulnerable to this thing because of i guess how we are wired, there is no such thing as a person saving souls, God saves souls, souls don't come to Christ because of a person, people are afraid 2 have their faith in their hands that's why when some1 who is logical comes through y'all wanna equate logic with carnality but theological boundaries are there to safeguard "you" the Christian, it could be genuine mistakes he is making but they are mistakes none the less & if he can't be called out on it now, good luck after he has built that whatever acre church, these people need to get theological advisors even in their ranks who help them because even the book of James explains how teaching is a very sensitive area you can sway people if you are not careful but they don't wanna hear it neither do y'all you want people to gloss over these early mistakes which turn into (woman manipulated & abused at so & so church), (how so & so used to manipulate his congregation)
@@ChrissieThefirst I would MUCH rather have a conversation RELEVANT to the comments I post than for you to come under everything I say with a copy and paste comment. Reply to what I say and I will answer! :) Copy Paste and I will not. Be blessed Chrissie.
@@prettyleeley5277 the same comment is relevant to all the things you are all saying, why should i keep writing big paragraphs when it's all the same mindset i am addressing
I don’t think this was a fair critique of what was communicated from pastor Phillip. The clips of portions of what was said feeds a narrative implicitly (the implicit manner you accused him of). He also goes on to explain his statement about talking about the dollar amount. Why not play the whole statement and critique the entire thing?
@@TytusJones but that still doesn't address why not show the whole statement and THEN critique? Regardless of whether you think "Most people" have seen the full clip or not? Do you want the ppl to be correctly & FULLY informed? or?
Agree, Miss Titus he missed an opportunity. He could’ve taught his congregation how to respond to criticism in a godly way he also could have reflected and understood why people may have been turned off that he went to Daystar and light of all that is going on there.
@TytusJones I really want to ask you something: what do you have against Phillip Mitchell? You showed clips, and I watched them and observed. I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying, and he's not guilty of what you're accusing him of. So, what's the real problem? You didn't even give the clips time to play longer, so we could grasp a better understanding. All you did was play short snippets from a whole video, and then you did most of the talking. What's really the issue, because everything you're saying seems unfounded?
And so what are your faults? Don’t be a hater.. don’t allow the Devil to use you… you’re not even saying anything worth pointing out… you pointing out others, better make sure you’re dotting your i’s and crossing your T’s…
Usually, I like a lot of your content, but you’re definitely off the mark here. You may not like his style of preaching. Which is fine. But that does not make him a cult leader or a false teacher. And I believe in exposing false teachers and teaching so people won’t be deceived. But it seems like you and other content creators are picking him apart for content.
Hey sis! I appreciate your feedback. Here’s my main concern with this 2819 ordeal. You have a pastor who presents himself as THE model pastor for America. While his theology may be correct, this kind of self promotion is highly concerning. Ask yourself, is it ok for a pastor to call people Karens because they complain about the traffic? Is 2819 or Pastor Mitchell the only place where someone can hear the gospel? Because it seems like ppl from that church really believe that. When ppl are more loyal to a man than they are to the faith, that’s a red flag. All that being said, I’m glad that yall aren’t just agreeing with me because you like my channel.
No Karen's isn’t ok but it is a term people can understand . Also you are making blanket statements as if you have all the background information . You explain it as if it is black and white cut and dry . Like you know it's Just him being mad for being corrected for breaking the law. Do you know that there isn't more happening behind close doors here are some things to consider ( racism, those who are against the body of Christ, spiritual warfare ( the devil definitely uses people to war against soul winners) and I don't think he believes they have copyright on the Gospel lol. I think what he is saying is what I have seen traveling the country and all over the united states and that is in the mid western church we by majority are not very Discipleship ship focus Gospel focus or Bible focus. Lastly defending someone you beleive in is not proof that your Allegiance to christ is wavering and it isn't wise to over focus on new converts or babes in Christ. because they are not the best test subject and if you are honest we both know that they are low hanging fruit to prove points of this manner!
Be careful!! You know you cannot have a non salvific different opinion from the urban crowd 😂😭 no but seriously! We need to stop being so fast to gravitate to people just because they have charisma and this and that. We also need to stop idolizing and walking in cliques in the church like we are in highschool.
Don't say urban say black and I guess that joke really make Jesus smile . The level of pride is baffling in this circle.. but we all know how our God feels about pride. But carry on cause the urban in me is coming out!
This is so sad, I really enjoyed his sermons and for him to now stand there, and deflect what he said and make the viewers out to be confused and in the wrong is a straight narcissist move. He did imply needing $250k, and even told his congregation to not slack in their giving/tithing. This is what happens when we fall for the tears and emotionally charged hype. To add insult to injury, he says they have millions saved up to go towards purchasing a new building and in 2 years should have the full 7 million to pay the building off in cash. Like huh?? So if you already have millions on hand what in the world was that stunt all about?!
And why didn’t he stop Joni and Dave for imploring Daystar viewers to assist them with resources? He’s sitting right there while it’s happening; two people taking his words out of context and he doesn’t correct them. Just stop it.
@@TytusJones Sis, the video was removed because of the comments made towards city/gov/higher officials that were ACTIVELY trying & could have gotten the church SHUT DOWN in less than the 60 day window given.
@@prettyleeley5277he has to follow city ordinances..we have to obey the laws of the land....he could have actively worked with the community through service and love as well as connecting with the political officials in Atlanta .... It doesn't matter now ..be happy God made a way for him to get a building 🎉
I thought the same thing. Criticizing this man of God leading souls closer to Christ over the most nitpicking things, but then calling it “Beyonce’s internet” is crazy work.
I think there is a level of pride I’m seeing when it comes to your videos! It’s like you have this “God complex “ and you believe your view is right … It’s kind of scary … a hit dog wil holler and I think you’re the dog in this situation.
I think Ms Tytus was very sincere in her response. She even offered sources. Not one time did she commit a straw man fallacy. I see there’s a lot of followers like yourself attacking people for their honest opinions. This is even more proof of the cult like following 2819 has.
@@samtv6659 was it prideful of P.A.M to point his finger in the camera and say, "I'm only gonna tell you this one time, repent before the Lord." Then stand there with a thug stance and receive applause?
@@PMT525 No, because of what he was addressing in that moment (False Preachers/People misleading others from God) Him saying "Repent before the Lord" and also quoting scripture that says they will be judged MORE harshly by God is NOT pride, its truth. Be blessed friend!
What church do you know that the congregation doesn’t defend their pastor and their church, good, bad, or indifferent- but especially when the church is welcoming, calls out “clicks and snubbing” to ensure that all feel welcomed… To call out the church as a cult is irresponsible behavior in my opinion, especially if you don’t watch complete sermons and can’t point to anything cultish in his preaching or teaching. What I’m hearing is you speak about the rapid growth, and those that appreciate his work responding in defense of their church and pastor . So many content creators, you included take the opportunity to give opinions for and based on clickbait clips. In the times we are living God’s truth is coming to pass…. I applaud calling out those who preach false doctrine, and bend to the culture that’s in my opinion again worth it to open the eyes of new followers and even those seeking to become a believer… Lord I pray that the hearts of believers would be softened and more open to loving our neighbors as we love ourselves and recognizing our neighbors are all. Let us all be convicted by the spirit to not bare false witness based on our limited knowledge, understanding or our feeling but find direction in scripture that would move us to grow in love, faith and fellowship.
Also he said he didn’t have the money. He said that God made him be able to give to another church who needed 100k when they don’t have the money for their church.
He said they were CLOSE to their goal for a down payment on their OWN building, but had the EXTRA money (Praise God) to help ANOTHER struggling church who needed 100k to keep their building open. That was possible ONLY due to the Lord softening the hearts of some men that owned the ONLY building that could hold all their growing members until they could purchase their OWN church building. Not only did God soften their hearts and they agreed for them to have services there, they also signed off for TWO YEARS! God managed a few miracles in just ONE shot! I hope that gave clarity! Be blessed friend in Christ!
He has the money for the temporary location which will house the church for 2 year he need the money for the final location and mentioned it’s in arms reached, seeing as though the contract was signed and they need to be out in 90 days you should conclude he has the money…
Idk... Maybe I'm old school. Church business needs to be discussed in private in a church meeting with church leaders first then in a church meeting where all members are welcomed. He needs to stop telling all the church business to the public and then maybe ppl won't comment on his actions. Preach the Gospel on the pulpit and leave it at that. Great job Ms. T!!
But you’re building your platform on negativity and gossip… who are you helping with this mess? The only thing that needs to be under a microscope is yourself.. you have to give an account of YOU… not anyone else!!
Thank you. He should habe clerified that he did nit need money. It makes people feel bad for giving. He been suspect to me for sometime. To animated for me.
chopping up his video into 3 second clips to set a narrative you learnt much fro CNN . The black Pastor is doing too much , seen too much . thats too much power for one man huh?
So Tytus are you implying that 2819 church pastor may be a cult leader? Is this why you reccomend this book so his congregation can read it to see if there are any red flags at his church that's pointed out this book? It seems this book is reccomended and directed towards this man.
We need to repent for the LORD for criticizing Phillip? Phillip uses the SAME tactics that many cult leaders and false teachers use, ANY criticism is seen as opposing God Himself, so wild! I haven't said too much about Phillip (many have asked) and have been slow to do anything regarding him, but I've always had concerns with the preaching of his. It makes good for viral clips of you yelling and crying tho but that doesnt mean it necessarily a good sermon. Much more I could say as well.
That’s so true bro!!! What a lotta ppl don’t understand is that just because a pastor is right about a lot doesn’t mean the pastor isn’t in major error! A mature shepherd wouldn’t have went on an emotional rant because of the backlash. It’s a RED FLAG! And it just doesn’t seem like he’s being very transparent about this moving situation. The details keep changing!
I would love for you to make a video on the negative impact that smart Christian channel has on many Christian’s. If you notice a lot the videos cause division within the body of Christ people arguing with one another which I’m sure isn’t biblical within the body it pushes carnality everyone saying who they follow and who they don’t follow. I’m wondering if though Corey’s intent is to help is it actually hurting at the same time like many of the new UA-cam reaction “Christian” videos aren’t they very worldly and are these videos more like a new tmz for Christian’s and the biggest thing I e noticed is that it seems as though many and I say this because I also fell to this when watching these videos often, feel as though they are now better than others in there walk because they aren’t doing what others may be doing at the time. So Kdub I would really love for you to do a video like that assessing these types of channels and really seeing is it hurting or helping. And maybe a suggestion is just turn the comments section off share their opinions but not give room for the arguments and controversies among the body.
@ fair enough. I don’t have the ability to make a video that’s why I asked you being that you guys are friends and you do assess the content of other people and you would give an unbiased view into the issues that some of the comment sections cause as well as the videos that are other reaction videos but mostly pushing gossip. I thought it would be beneficial and probably give insight and help those like myself who have those questions. Anyways thank you. And just so you know Im actually a supporter of your channel in case you got offended and thought I was trying to be mean or something.
Whew chile, I’m stressed out now 😂. I’m just gone read my bible and pray. Everything and everyone seems to be compromised in the Christian faith nowadays 😩
@@Nappyblkgurl You’re absolutely right so many Christians and so many Churches have been indoctrinated with false teachings but still there are many solid, Biblical sound Pastors and teachings you can learn from and grow. Miss Tytus is someone that’s Biblical sound you can learn from and grow; just stick with her and listen to the people that she recommends and you’ll be in the presence of GOD. Btw I love your username Nappyblkgurl. Natural nappy headed black women are more beautiful than white society wants anyone to believe.
@@valeriejones7146 So NOW what I want to know is, are u targeting the church bc of a "trend?" or bc its a "trending topic?"... Idk mannn I been trying to have a healthy debate with sis about some of the stuff she been saying in comments and cant get a response lol
Last Comment! Why on earth does he have 50 staff? Even with 6,000, you dont have that large of a staff. I been in a church with double, and a staff of about 15 full-time staff. It's not adding up!
Why does he choose to focus on something so insignificant and meaningless ? There was such an outpouring of love and support for his church last week as people from across the globe donated money to 2819. A lot of that support was caused by these content creators playing his videos. I read comments from so many of their viewers saying they either didn’t know about 2819 or the situation with the church. As a result they planned to donate. There were content creators who literally dropped his church’s links in their content because they wanted people to support him. Why focus on the handful of individuals who may have said something negative? It makes him seem thin skinned and immature. I’m sorry he reminds me of the children of Israel complaining about quail after complaining about the manna after complaining about water. Enough!!! Just say thank you and dismiss the minutia.
Sighhhh. I don't agree with all of your opinions and positions on the topics you choose to raise. My only prayer is that you make sure your intent is pure. Additionally, Pastor seems to be lacking mentorship, leadership, right relationships. There is absolutely NO REASON for him to address or respond to any comments made about him or his sermons. If you are confident God knows your heart, orders your heart and works, your intentions and purposes are pure, there is nothing for you to say to "critics." Stop it. These seeds pride, ego, and lack or self control will not serve him later one.
Ohhhh He told us didn’t he?! Buuurn 😂 Folks in the comments are being disingenuous and proving your point. PAM is unqualified, yea I said it! Lol You were being nice in your critique.
I think this video was done in good taste. While I love Pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell's boldness, and his passion, if I'm honest, there's something about him that causes me to "proceed with caution". I appreciate you inserting the clip of him talking about how much money was needed, and although he did not say please donate, he might as well have. I wonder if those that donated, felt like his comments on last Sunday, was a slap in their face, not once did I hear him say thank you. That spoke volumes and came off as prideful, I will continue to keep him in prayer🙏🏽
I too love this video. I am undecided on 2819 and the pastor. I’m where PMDS1979 is. I’m incredibly “uncertain” about him and unusually cautious about my take on him. I haven’t watched entire services or heard entire sermons. I can’t put my finger on it, but I must say that what teaching/preaching/videos I have seen, haven’t tugged at my heart. I honestly don’t see or hear the appeal that others do, who follow and admire this ministry. Not to point fingers or find fault. 6k people needing a building to congregate seems like overkill, especially when there’s so much Christian-discipleship needed outside of the building in these streets where the souls are. For me, it was that plea for ONE building to hold 6k, that was cult-ish. The other thing that was cult-ish to me was being so emotionally drained or damaged that “he couldn’t preach”, so there’s NO ONE ELSE who can feed the sheep???? Something is definitely off….
I didn’t have the energy to figure out what in the world was going on with Pastor Mitchell 😂. I seen people talking about him, how he didn’t ask for money, and then people were saying Tomi Arayomi was lying or boasting about the money he gave him? I’m like chile…I don’t know what’s going on. Either way, I like Pastor Mitchell-however it is still some character growth that needs to happen. With any of us, tbh. Side Note:Girl, I absolutely love those earrings ❤❤
Yeap. Last week everyone and their Momma were making Go Fund Me type donations. If you didn’t need the money, you should’ve clarified last Monday. Will you be giving the money back on the unnecessary donations as you stated you DON’T need the money now???? This is messy
He clarified to all who were truly listening friend! Watch it again because he asked if anybody had been touched by the ministry or his teachings to PRAY for him and 2819! He only informed of the monetary stuff so ppl could see how DETRIMENTAL it was! God bless!
@@prettyleeley5277 why didn't he stop people who "misunderstood " him from collecting money he didn't need? This man was not misunderstood, he is being dishonest now. We all knew money was being collected on his behalf, because we all understood him to be asking for money. He knew money was being collected on his behalf, if it was a misunderstanding WHY DID HE NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM COLLECTING MONEY ON HIS BEHALF AND SET THE RECORD STARIGHT! Answer this question honestly! WHY DD HE LET THE COLLECTIONS CONTINUE? You people like idolizing man, so you'd rather be dishonest, throw away common sense instead of removing the man from the pedestal you've put him on.
I completely agree with you! I wish more Christians could stop idolizing men. The man def was asking for money, then he turned around and gaslit everyone 😮 I don't even mind him asking for money, that's his members, he can do that. However I'm bothered by the lies! And I will never compromise godly character to keep a man on a pedestal. Truth is truth!
I’ve only seen one video of him like a long full sermon, and I would see shorts of his preaching. I never ever got cult vibes from him or any red flags, however, the atmosphere of his sermons always made me feel on edge and drained which was strange. That could just be me though because certain things really overstimulate me. I, very recently, had a really lowkey traumatic experience at a church that wasn’t mine when I was venturing out and going to their Bible studies that was definitely very cult like. I could hear the Lord literally telling me to LEAVE but I was so scared. After that all happened and I left, that fear hit me all at once and caused me to be really paranoid. Now I’m really fearful of venturing out and trying other churches, also I don’t want to fall into deception because I recently found out a few pastors I was subscribed to were also false teachers 😪🤧 please pray for me.
@madebyam3lia I am sorry you had such a tragic and traumatic experience in church! I pray that your fear and anxiety is released in JESUS name!! Only our Lord and Savior can bring the relief and peace from breaking those bonds. Seek Jesus Christ and ask him for healing and pray regarding having discernment when looking for a spiritual leader! I had to do the same after God revealed to me some of the people I had been watching were truly NOT of God and were NOT preaching the TRUE gospel! I asked for the Lord to give me discernment and lead me to a pastor who was on FIRE for God, and truly about saving souls and he lead me! I am praying for you love! God Bless you!
Love you Ms. Tytus and I’m gone stand beside you lol. Like most people I was excited about Pastor Mitchell as well and still am but not as much. My first red flag was when he had to apologize for cussing, reporting that’s how they preach in New York. My concern was if no one said anything what other curse words would you use. I started backing up then. Then it was the testicle comment and for sure the threatening message recently. I’m older and not interested at all of falling in love, or being infatuated with a Preacher or anyone else for that matters. I’m only interested in Preacher that are pointing me to Jesus and those that teach sound doctrine and can help me learn more and grow deeper in Gods word. Another red flag is when you start acting like a thug because you’re being talked about. It’s ok to address concerns and misunderstandings sometimes but if you keep doing that, where is the word? I’ll be keeping him on pause for now and praying. As for you young lady, forge ahead and keep doing what you’re doing. I’d love to have a one on one with you. Much Love.
Not one of us is perfect on this earth, including this spiritual leader. Has he made some mistakes? Yes he has! Now a question for you sister, have you heard his testimony? Where he came from? Not just him being a pastor from NYC that moved to ATL, but his TESTIMONY? Also, ur pointing out his actions.. but never spoke on whether or not he was "pointing you to Jesus, or teaching sound doctrine that helps learn and grow deeper in Gods word" Is his doctrine sound? Is he pointing ppl to Jesus? Is he trying to save souls for God? (Not arguing, genuinely asking sister!)
I’ve been reading through these comments and it’s disheartening to see such negativity toward someone who clearly seeks to lead with grace and truth. It's important to remember that when we engage with one another, especially in the online world, we are representing Christ. His call for us to love one another and to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) should be our guiding principle in all our interactions. Critiquing, when done with humility and wisdom, is a healthy part of our growth as believers. However, attacking or tearing down another believer doesn’t align with the heart of the gospel. Let’s remember to approach one another with grace and understanding, and if there are areas where correction is needed, may we do so in a spirit of gentleness and kindness (Galatians 6:1). I really appreciate the heart of Miss Tytus and her commitment to sharing the truth with love. I pray we can all encourage one another to grow in grace rather than allowing bitterness or judgment to take root. Let’s strive to build each other up, as the Bible calls us to do (1 Thessalonians 5:11). Blessings
Keep in mind also that NO ONE really spoke evil of him....they just simply raised valid questions......🤷🏽♀️ i just told someone yesterday i do not prefer his style of preaching and they got so mad.....i was like i am FREE as a Christian to not prefer a Pastor or church.....are they learning the gospel and how to live for Christ? Or are they just learning how to be in a clique? That's the concern....
I would also add that if ppl don't appreciate some of the critiques, perhaps churchs should stop airing their church "business," that's really a matter between them, the residents, and the community. Old school would call it a "business meeting!"
Sad that someone got upset with you regarding your choice and style of spiritual leader.. that was wrong because you are free to choose the type of leader u want to follow, as long as they are preaching TRUE gospel.. However I would like to ask outside of the clips about the "announcement" have you ever watched him? Seen a full episode of a sermon? How have you come to the conclusion that he's not teaching the gospel and how to live for Christ? (serious question sis, not being funny at all)
@@mistervalentine5420 fair point, but let's again be reminded that he said what he said on platform asking for PRAYER, not money, or to air out "church business". The numeric amounts he spoke on was to paint a picture that this is DETRIMENTAL and time was running out, it was not about "begging for funds" as it was painted in SO many videos, which in turn was why he responded about people twisting his words. It was him asking anybody that had been touched by his ministry whether a member or not, to PRAY with his church for favorable outcome regarding the building he said was dilapidated but their ONLY option due to not having funds for the other building. God bless u brother!
Filthy communication corrupts good manners... ....ma'am, I think you have it wrong. Folks have been saved, delivered, and set free! Pastor Mitchell is what the Church needs today, truth and Biblical teaching. 2819 has a panel of Elders and Advisors.....he doesn't move without the Holy Spirit or them. Watch who you put your mouth on young lady.... IJS....
You are quite right Miss Tytuss. There is no apology from the Pastor about calling others ‘Karen’s’, and that is wrong. Added to the fact that his approach to bring his church problems to the world by weeping shows weakness as a leader and that he does not trust God in this situation. Then he comes back being vindictive to persons that try to rebuke and correct him. Come on the signs are there. Too much arrogance.
Sister I'm sorry to say but the enemy is using you. I'm starting to wonder if anyone in this chat has the heart of Christ, because what I can discern, this man of God is legit and all you want is views and comments. No matter if his heart is sincere for the gospel, he can't win for losing with people like you. The devil is laughing at us right now.
@jennyvargas328 Does she now? I disagree but everyone has an opinion. Your discernment, are you sure it's not just your own fleshly suspicion? It doesn't sound like it's from the Holy Spirit, and may God correct me if I'm wrong. I believe if Paul himself was here people like y'all would be having a ball coming for him. It's quite sad how the enemy makes it easy to cause discord among us. What exactly has he said or done wrong that's against God or the Bible?
An wise person once said "what is in you, will come out of you" and his style of preaching says alot. So he will attract that worldly christian. His rebuke and anger displays a lack of maturity (spiritual and personal). His 2819 hive definitely be ready to hit back which only proves their cult like energy. But i say to them...ok girl, y'all ain't a cult 🤷🏼♀️
A cult no never. This pastor looks for God's answers and leads his sheep with passion and sound word. What he speaks in him is that spirit that giving to him by our Father. His sheep need to know Jesus and when a pastor is separated from his master then the sheep are left without a shepherd. Easily picked off by the enemy because they don't know the true shepherd. But when the sheep know the true shepherd, them the sheep are led by the true shepherd whether if the pastor is leading them or not. This how these sheep are recognized. Sheep will not follow a stranger. ua-cam.com/video/e45dVgWgV64/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
You said he chose to escalate...what are you doing by going on Beyonce's internet escalating the issue with this video by trying to drag a man for spreading the word of God. Instead of critizing the man see if you can pull apart his preaching. Try it. Find Jesus
This pastor isn’t getting criticized for spreading the gospel. He’s getting criticized for making what appears to be contradictory and abusive statements. Ephesians 5 says we’re to expose the UNFRUITFUL deeds of darkness. Jude 3 says to contend for the faith. Read your Bible. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@lavoniachisholm3930 she did not say that she said it looks like it's enroute, saying if you keep mixing these colours i've seen them producing purple is not saying it is definitely purple that u are making, it's 2 say those playing in these paints be careful historically that's how they get purple, bt anyway it doesn't even matter the owner of us the body of Christ will deal with us accordingly😂 let's all concentrate of washing our garments we can argue about other ppl all we want but the relationship with Him is the real equalizer
In my humble opinion any person who points people to themselves, to self, to a higher level in God, a single church body or a denomination, is a cult leader. Servants of God serve (teaching/discipling) by pointing people to the Author of Soul Winning, Christ Jesus. Amen.
Sister Titus, Your discernment, observation & critique of “2819” is very balanced & on point. It is apparent that the Holy Scriptures are your final authority. I appreciate your content & the soundness of your faith in Christ…Ambassador
Sister Tytus these videos are a HUGE stumbling block please hear me out. for example....I recently introduced someone into new age, with little concept of Christianity to Philip/2819 sermons. This person was so moved by Philip's preaching it made them want to listen to more and now they are in the process of being drawn to Christ. It opened up a full conversation about Jesus, the Bible, and I can now be there to help them down this journey now too and answer questions they have. Now when they type in 2819 this video pops up at the top if they watch it it's going to cause nothing but confusion and push them away. Please put yourself in the shoes of someone who isn't a Christian or someone interested in learning about the Lord. After another Christian plants the seed, this type of "TMZ" content corrupts it. These videos look so baffling and ridiculous to them and I have heard many said it turns them away or turns them off from Christianity completely. I don't believe there is anyway in good faith you can honestly tell me this type of content is building the body of Christ, it's hurting it.
@ C'mon sister that was an insane prideful response and you even tried to twist it like you're not the stumbling block when many have called you out about that. You are taking the 1% debateable negative and disregarding the 99% positive Philip's teaching and ministry is doing. No offense but from your channel all I've seen is toxicity and harm to the body of Christ. We have seen actual fruit of Philip winning souls to Christ. He's helped many including myself turn from a life of sin. All we're seeing from your channel is rotten fruit in the comments and division and you refuse to let your ego down and take the rebukes. Remember God opposes the proud. I will be praying for you tonight sister that God can work on your heart about this ❤️
@7:43 I think the conversation of cults is important but a complex one right? Jonestown and Waco being more obvious examples. But ministries with charismatic leaders with somewhat big personalities who are a bit out there to me makes the conversation more difficult. I think what people don't like, they start to use the label of cult on. I think that anything that uses the Christianity label should re-examine itself and see it is really of Christ or not. It should all be leading back to Jesus. All of this extracurricular talk about anything else to me is not Christian or of Christ. People start making up their own philosophies within the faith and because there is no one spiritual authority over them correcting them, they just are all over the place.
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If yall don't leave that man alone there are souls to be saved get to work
Jesus is the saver
I think the problem with channels such as yours is that eventually, you fall into some of these same categories that speak on. There is no way God told you to make channel thats main focus is to critique others for the benefit of Gods will, which is that all men come to him. Only his word can change the hearts of men, and your so-called discernment is only an instrument of discord and not the uplifting God and his greatest. All men fall short, so to make a channel pointing out shortcomings when you are included in the "All MEN" is mind-boggling when the notion is you are being led by God to do this. People such as yourself have chosen content over conviction, and it shows. The passive-aggressive monotone reactions doesnt hide your true nature. You are no better the PAM who i also believe is disingenuous. Repent if you are a true believer because this isn't God's plan for those that are called by him to do his will and not your own.
Well said ❤
Skrrrrt hold up because I go to 2819 Church and have been when it was Victory Church. That man is spirit filled and he allows the Lord to use him. I know him personally and love the way God is using him. May God be glorified!!
This is one of the most reasonable responses I’ve gotten from 2819ers. I’m glad you’ve had a good experience. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
You can say whatever you want!! But I’m looking at the fruit that’s following him!! People are giving their lives to God!! Being set free and delivered!! Souls are being saved!!! That right there!! Is alright with me!! And I praise God for it!!!
Can someone get saved from false doctrine? Yes then they move onto another church centered church.
We hear of Mormons, Hindus, Muslims, etc having an interaction with Christ and becoming a Christian. Yes.
Could he have kept this private and brought the need to the church months if not years before the need arose? Yes. He seems genuine but overwhelmed. Why doesn’t he have a group of elders to help carry the load? Why the music in the background?
This just smells fishy.
Lord be given all glory and honor in this situation. The judgement of God comes to the church first.
What is the gospel?
Cult? You really are fishing for some views. This man is preaching from the word of God and not his opinions. You obviously lack spiritual discernment. You will be in my prayers.
People didn't think he was asking for money. People saw a community in need and wanted to contribute on their own accord towards a church where believers can gather to worship and glorify God.
He verbatim said “We can raise $15 million”.
@@TytusJones .
The first statement, "we can raise 15 million dollars," is a declaration of capability and confidence. It implies that the organization or individual has a plan, a strategy, and the resources to achieve this ambitious goal. This statement is more focused on the potential and the possibility of raising the funds.
On the other hand, "asking people for money to raise 15 million dollars" is a more direct and explicit request for financial support. This statement is clear about the intention to solicit donations or contributions from others to reach the desired goal.
The first statement, "we can raise 15 million dollars," is a declaration of capability and confidence. It implies that the organization or individual has a plan, a strategy, and the resources to achieve this ambitious goal. This statement is more focused on the potential and the possibility of raising the funds.
On the other hand, "asking people for money to raise 15 million dollars" is a more direct and explicit request for financial support. This statement is clear about the intention to solicit donations or contributions from others to reach the desired goal.
This sister is always looking for fault and in some ways plays the accuser. I hope you pray for these people just as much as you gossip and judge them. Even those who are genuinely doing God's work with sincerity don’t seem to meet your standards.
I’m not here to defend Pastor Philip or 2819 or any other church. But I am here to say that I have been in manipulative controlling and cult like churches where the pastor was the king (touch not my anointed) and threatened his enemies. I have also been to a church that had rapid and explosive growth that greatly inconvenienced the neighborhood. Yes the church took an “us against them “ stance because it identified any threat to the ministry as being against God. In reality the neighborhood only wanted to be able to get out of their driveway in the morning without being blocked in. It’s not so much the church causing the problems but the many visitors who park anywhere and everywhere to see the spectacle. It is a huge challenge for both sides and unfortunate.
That said, I hate that so many internet podcasters who have a peanut gallery view of the church have so many opinions about what any church should do or how to raise money or effectively mobilize people in such situations. Internet and social media access to these leaders is giving outsiders a false sense of knowing more than they actually understand. If you have not been a pastor facing these multiple and conflicting concerns, it might be best to provide just a little grace when passionate leaders don’t do everything perfectly in the public eye. You don’t have the benefit of seeing behind the scenes into prayer closets, board rooms, members meetings, people leaving or seeking to leverage the church success for personal gain, or endless searches for space to house a growing diverse congregation. The implication that 2819 is potentially a cult is concerning because it doesn’t paint an accurate picture of the church. Yes in this social media world there is a new draw toward charismatic and passionate leaders more than before, but that can be both good and bad depending on the heart of the leader. You make it so this man can’t win regardless of his transparency or authenticity…
Fair critique! Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@ appreciate your ministry.
This was VERY well said and I agree. I have seen interviews and sermons of Pastor Phillip Mitchell and is heart is genuinely for serving the Lord and doing his will by all means. To see that he could be looked at as being a potential cult leader is disturbing and concerning at the same time. I truly believe his heart intentions were not and are not about the narrative that social media is trying to put out there. I appreciate his ministry and how the Lord is using him during these end times. 🙏🏾❤
This was said SO PERFECTLY!! I also stand in total agreement with this comment! Attaching a narrative that Pastor Mitchell and 2819 is a "Cult in the making" is disturbing when it does not accurately paint a correct picture of his ministry, nor him as a spiritual leader. He is passion-filled about saving souls, and on FIRE for God & that is not everybody's cup of tea! Especially when we live in a world where there are soothsayers, and false prophets EVERYWHERE that are deceiving souls and leading them AWAY from God. I truly believe he has been transparent, genuine, and authentic, and its videos like this that stray people away from being lead by someone who wants nothing more than to save your soul. God Bless!
Many internet vloggers are doing the same things that they criticize other preachers doing---going after the money, fame and increased followership. On social media, the more controversial the content the more people tend to be drawn to the channel. Afterward, the channel becomes monetized and the money begins to grow and flow. Can you see why it's always negative content on most of these "decerning" videobloggers now? I am not necessarily saying this is true for this channel but most of them are in it for the money, and find their significance not in Jesus but in attracting others to their (biased) point of view. Content creators, like teachers, must also be very careful because they will be judged for what they feed the people just like the preachers they seek to expose.
I have watched a couple of these videos and I'm sorry, the overall video content of this channel is far from being theologically sound. Real theology is not done by critiquing video clips of preachers--often taken out of context--but true theology happens in community, among well-trained and biblically sound scholars who are adept at presenting and defending their arguments concerning what is or is not truth as pertaining to Scripture. And this is always done within a particular context or framework. However, what this channel seems to be doing is "gossip," in the name of theology.
The content does not edify the audience nor does it bring anyone closer to Jesus Christ. Instead content like this (and there is a lot of it today) creates suspicion, fear and pessimism. You probably mean well but again, this content is not theological, it is more like entertainment that appeals to typical cynical social media lurkers who are always looking out for failure in others--especially leaders--but miss their own blind spots. Others do it grow their channel viewer count which--means more money in their pockets from YT; which I associate with Scripture's condemnation of seeking "filthy lucre" (Titus 1:11).
The church fathers and Christian apologists of antiquity made public critiques. Your comment is an attack on the video but not an attack on the concerns raised in the video. Can you be specific about what you disagree with?
@TytusJones Do you read the comments after watching his sermons. People are being directed to search the scriptures. Young people are drawn to the word. People are saying they are convicted for the first time. This is the move of God, Philip Anthony Mitchell is just a vessel.
@@TytusJones That a fair point, but you are not a church father. In order to create meaningful dialogue that leads to truth, and promptly addresses potential heresies is not done on a social media platform--consisting mostly of a bunch of theologically uniformed entertainment seekers, but is best done among those who have been trained to do exegesis along with a lot of spiritual discernment and common sense. Again, the end goal is to find clarity that leads to edification and unity. Your
"expose" fails to achieve any of this.
This whole video was annoying. I usually try to hear you out but you chose some interesting words “from afar” and that’s abundantly clear. You’re not listening to entire messages for understanding. But you’re clearly watching snippets for clicks. You are blurring the line of honor and idolatry. I don’t know one cult leader (past or present) that avoids being praised or worshipped. That is not the environment of 2819 church. Pastor Phillip rejects it at all costs.
I’ve watched tons of his full sermons. I appreciate you hearing me out even if we don’t agree. I used to be annoyed at certain discernment channels too before I learned more about the specifics of Christianity. Some of those channels have now become some of my favorite creators even though we don’t always agree. Even if that’s not the case here, I appreciate your feedback.
@@NicoleLovesJesus-hh9wr Wowser
Amen 🙏🏼
There is nothing wrong with 2819 at all they did the same thing to Jesus correct? The modern day, Pharisees and religious leaders did they not or did they not oppose the disciples who were preaching the gospel? Did they not try to slander the name of Jesus Christ slander the name of the disciples? Or anyone who followed Christ you should have prayed before you
Made these statements and video it’s misleading
@@TytusJones I’ve seen many of your reaction/response videos. I find it hard to believe that you would make a statement eluding to 2819 being a cult if you have in fact watched his sermons. The two just don’t add up.
This page is now turning into the “Christian TMZ” JHP talked about. The knit picking is getting ridiculous.
It's disguisting I pray this sister Miss Tytus realizes how much of a stumbling block this TMZ stuff is. This looks so foolish to non believers and Christian babes and is sowing nothing but confusion in them
Its quite embarrassing. She needs a hobby and get out of her living room. Its giving miserable.
I’m starting to think JHP doesn’t want yall to think critically. It’s easier to train your followers to dismiss the naysayers than to train them to process the arguments of the naysayers.
@@TytusJones did you see what Jackie said about this on Jada Edwards podcast? Because it was all facts. If anything she was doing what you just said and got people to critically look at it instead of thinking "TMZ" content on a platform from someone who is supposed to be a CHRISTIAN is normal.
C'mon sister..... please ask yourself if this is helping the body of Christ or hurting it. If GOD told you in prayer to delete all your call-out videos and change the direction of the content on your channel......would you do it?
Or would you be more attached to the clicks/views/subs from the videos? I'm trying to help you see how many content creators are exalting their youtube platform over God himself......
@@Drewbyfaithwell said!!!
This sermon blessed me and this is why it's such an attack.
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Pastor Mitchel typically preaches for over an hour, and taking a few minutes to address the public doesn’t mean he is deviating from his message. No pastor is perfect in wisdom, so we shouldn’t be overly critical. Jesus called people vipers and dog and John the Baptist called people vipers (who where not even directly offending them), I appreciate what you do, Miss Tytus, but please be mindful not to become a stumbling block to the work God is doing through a faithful and bold minister like Pastor Mitchel. It’s important not to be swayed by the urge to critique, especially on trivial matters, whether the are viral or not. I’m not part of 2819, but I can see that Pastor Mitchel is doing a great job and making a real impact on people’s lives while also on his own perfection journey.
2819 pastor is to emotional he needs to breathe. And certain words as not just a pastor or even a Christian and Disciple we should now use certain words especially those word that keep people visuals in people minds. It’s not biblical to say you’re being real. That’s not preaching that’s being in self!! Period!
I appreciate your heart for Pastor Mitchel. I don’t follow his ministry, but from the clips shared, his response came across as prideful. I want to approach this with humility, but we do need to be mindful of whether his behavior aligns with the biblical qualifications for an elder, as outlined in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1.
And I do recognize that Scripture calls us to respond with humility and love, even when addressing criticism. Jesus and John the Baptist spoke strongly against those rejecting God’s truth, but our public responses should reflect grace and wisdom (James 1:19, Ephesians 4:29).
Furthermore, Scripture calls pastors to be examples of humility, not arrogance or defensiveness (1 Peter 5:3). If a pastor is putting his ministry online for the world to see, it’s reasonable for others to critique-not to tear down, but to discern if the behavior and teaching are aligned with Scripture. The Bible encourages believers to hold each other accountable (Galatians 6:1), and in a public ministry context, accountability is especially important. Pastor Mitchel's leadership, like all elders, is subject to the same biblical standards (1 Timothy 3:2-7).
I hope this comes across in a spirit of humility, as I know this is a conversation we all can learn from.
@@anotheperspective unfortunately it seems like the sister Miss Tytus doesn't even care. Many have pointed out to her including myself (even gave real examples) of how she is being a stumbling block with her channel. Very concerning, because even if she thinks she's right in making these videos and some are ok with it there is still clear division being created and at bare mininum there are people who are being stumbled. How can you call yourself a Christian, care about God's Kingdom but then brush that off? All becuz you value the recognition, subscribers, attention you have gotten from your channel? More than God? Smh. C'mon sister Tytus this is not right
@@ChrissieThefirst no sir it's not "real theological concerns", it's being hyper nitpicky out of desire and ulterior motives and using "real theological concerns" as a reason to create division and cause people to stumble. To the point where you will find anything to discredit a man like Philip who has faithfully served God for decades and built a whole Church ministry that God has clearly raised up to lead many souls to Christ. Meanwhile these channels are what's coming against that in God's Kingdom. Not saying Miss Tytus, I'm saying basically everyone with these types of channels doing that
Amen
I couldn't even finish this video
Have you guys read your Bible?? How may times did Jesus address the naysayers?? A few times correct?? Instead of making videos about pastors and disrespectful at that why don't you seek God and the word to help the world get closer to him. Or better yet pray for pastor Philip 🙏🏾 instead of whatever this is. And yes Atlanta most definitely need a Bible teaching church that's teaching people to love God live for God keep your self holy unto God. It definitely needs it. For this Perverse Generation. Use your platform for Gods glory you're out of order and need to repent respectfully. God Blessings
@NicoleLovesJesus-hh9wr that part, I stopped going to church for almost 5yrs because they didn't line up with the Bible not even close especially with teaching the Disciples to be holy unto God. Until I came across 2819 on social
I also could not finish, AMEN sister as nothing you said was a lie! God bless you sister in Christ!
@prettyleeley5277 and you as well
Agree! This whole video was giving “self-righteous” vibes 😕
I understand your concern and your passion for honoring God and supporting pastors. I agree that we need more Bible-teaching churches, especially in a world that is lost and in need of Christ. However, I think it’s important to remember that Jesus didn’t shy away from calling out the behavior of the Pharisees and religious leaders when they were not living according to God’s truth (Matthew 23:13-36). His critiques were always aimed at helping people turn back to God and follow His commands, not out of hostility, but out of love for them and the truth.
If a pastor, or any leader, responds to criticism with hostility and pride, it can be concerning because it sets an example for the congregation. The Bible teaches that elders are to be humble, gentle, and examples to the flock (1 Peter 5:3, 1 Timothy 3:2). Our goal in critiquing behavior-whether from a pastor or anyone else-isn’t to disrespect, but to call attention to actions that might not align with Scripture, in order to encourage repentance and growth (Galatians 6:1).
It’s also true that we should pray for leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-2) and support them, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also hold them accountable to God’s Word. As believers, we are called to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) and to care for the body of Christ by addressing issues that may cause harm to others or lead people astray.
I hope my words come across in the spirit of humility, and I truly appreciate your concern for the church and for the advancement of God’s Kingdom. Let’s continue to seek God’s guidance and use our platforms to glorify Him, with hearts that desire to grow in truth and love.
Do you frequently pray about what you post? Even Paul addresses people who gave to his ministry and made it known that he was about the gospel and integrity in himself and the congregation. 2Corinthians 8:20-21. No dig against you, but it’s a lot of “nothing is good enough” type attitude as if you sit on a throne of what’s “real Christianity”. Yes I agree that we are to call out wolves. Yes I definitely agree that everything is up for criticism on YT. I agree that no church is perfect. They have flaws but like Paul says in 1Corinthians 1:11 “Follow me as a I follow Christ”, he’s definitely following Christ from what I can see. I’m sure there are people that are in your life that you follow as they sincerely follow Christ. If there is something needs to be addressed in his behavior or attitude then let’s pray for God to fix it. He is striving like the rest of us.
And the fact that the opposite effect (idolatry) happens in the hearts of men when he says “don’t idolize me” that’s not his fault; that’s the fault of the person committing that sin which God will deal with.
Ok, I must continue, Leadership is NOT an easy thing. 2819 has a Strong Pastor, that does not bend to the norms of the Atlanta presures that others have bent to. He is entitled to be unsettling and upsetting, humans make error. How about you ask your followers to pray for them, and not sew discord.....instead of encouraging folks to leave. Nothing bad is going on....... He is Strong and Very Courageous
This was a bad take. The Holy Spirit is moving at 2819... Pastor Phillip is the vessel God chose...a very imperfect man...but discernment goes both ways...it is helpful to be able to discern not only when evil spirits are at work ..but also when the Holy Spirit is moving.
The “Karens” comment really has you questing that man of God’s integrity to this degree?
I don’t understand why anyone would think this pastor is perfect he mention many times his not I listen to his preaching not bc of him but what the words says who ever goes to church to see what others are doing should stay home and this man speaks the word and I love his realness and his human at the end of the day
I think some of yall got too much time on yall hand. Can't handle the fact that the man deviates from church fluff and foolishness. If he is wongr PRAY FOR HIM!!!. I'm not a member there, but I read my Bible and I recognize word.
“If he is wrong pray for him.” That’s not what the Bible instructs us to do. You gotta go read it.
I've attended a 2819 service and nope... doesn't line up with the personality cult or toxic church description that you MIGHT be trying to suggest. Using clips out of context is what is toxic here.
@@Cecesworld1 very toxic
And It divides the body.
Hey, although I appreciate your content but I pray for your heart. Even in your "mocking" of his words, you've moved more towards a "heresy hunter". This has become content just to content.
Absolutely
@christopherroberts8429 I stand with you in agreement and prayer brother! I too used to appreciate her content and enlightening (so I thought) videos, but this is so sad.. from the caption, to the twisting and mocking of the announcement made! I pray she makes content about spreading the GOOD NEWS of Christ, and receives discernment from GOD before doing another video like this.
welll u are call it heresy hunting but 20 years later when y'all are back exposing the same ppl it's the little things that you will say, i should have seen it coming, Look to Jesus & live
ISAIAH 5:20-23
GALATIANS 6:1-4
If we focus on the faults of men, we will never see Christ! ALL have Sin!!! Imagine the impact of taking this same time to preach the Gospel of Christ and praying for brother Phillip and 2819. Being mindful when our hour shall come! Lord, be merciful on us all! Help us put away the pointing of the finger and more preaching Jesus Christ!
AMEN brother!! May we all learn to POINT & JUDGE less, and learn to give grace and mercy as God bestows these on us DAILY! God Bless you!
Nah, I’ll pray for them from a far but I’m not following no wolf
@Cataliina_mariia Good morning. This is Jesus talking; Matthew 10:16! I don't blame you, I wouldn't follow a wolf either, but He sends his followers (disciples) there. We pray for your distrust in men and churches, but don't bury His treasure or dim the light , sheep beget sheep, Christ will deal with the wolves. We can spend a lifetime finding faults and pointing fingers but heaven rejoice when a soul repent and is saved. Let us focus on soul winning!!!! Matthew 9:54-56. Lord be merciful to us all!
You said it was wrong for him to call people Karen.Yet you're calling his ministry a cult. How can he be wrong, and you be right.
@@lavoniachisholm3930 pride blinds
When did I call it a cult? Let me know the timestamp. It’s ok to call a cult a cult if it’s a cult btw - that’s called truth. If it meets the standards of a personality cult, then why can’t you call it a personality cult?
@TytusJones so you are calling it a cult? OR 2819 has cult potential? Which is it?
Cult or not a cult? 🤔
@@TytusJones Okay so there's a few discrepancies in what you said, and I want to point them out in LOVING correction to you sis. One, U asked "When did I call it a cult" THEN u said "It's OK to call a cult a cult if its a cult btw" THAT is called CONTRADICTION Ty. To answer BOTH of those, U called it a CULT in your description/Title. (To then be dismissive like "where I say that?" Is...off) & SURE it's okay to call something out IF in truth, however where is your PROOF for calling this mans ministry a cult? *Other than how u feel?
Well said!!!@@prettyleeley5277
If 2819 is a cult so are all of the churches out there, we need to stop hating on each other.
I am sorry but you either aren't listening or not pay attention to what's being said. It seems you are more interested in being right and onto a a trend or something. You missed the entire point. I am not even part of this church. Please do your due homework first before you speak.
This headline is of evil. Wow . They are calling good evil . This a real man of God 😊
Agreed! He preaches the unadulterated Word of God 💯period
He was just telling them what the plan is what the options were what the problem is and what is needed to do it. It's good to clear up confusion when it occurs because people are easily influenced by gossip and Atlanta is a place where gossip moves around fast
First off, this is not an attack on you as a person-it’s a plea for your soul. We live in a society where clout and controversy bring attention, but we must be careful not to cross the line from defending the faith to tearing down the shepherds God has placed over His people. “Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.” (Psalm 105:15)
Why are you attacking Black men of God and yes Ministers of God period
( i know race isn't the point but when i see a pattern I have to atleast point it out)
as if they don’t already have enough coming against them? This is spiritual warfare, and whether you realize it or not, you are aiding the enemy. “Satan is the accuser of the brethren” (Revelation 12:10), and right now, you're doing his job for him. I pray that when God moves on your heart, you will be more discerning about where you aim your criticism.
It’s not cute. It’s not cool. And I don’t expect you to receive this rebuke, but I pray you will. Because right now, your teaching comes across as cultish. The way some content creators attack preachers who stand on the Word-though they are not perfect-is out of control. And to lump them together with false teachers like Mike Todd? That says a lot about your integrity. Even if you didn’t say it outright, you insinuated it-and deception is still deception. “A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is His delight.” (Proverbs 11:1)
God bless you, but maybe you should do a video on yourself-using the same tone: passive-aggressive, mixing truth with lies, sarcastic, facetious, spreading misinformation. You seem to have a PhD in propagating fallacies while masquerading as a fact-checker. But where is your accountability? Do you have a church? A pastor? Do you seek wise counsel, or are you your own authority? “Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.” (Proverbs 11:14)
Let me be clear-I don’t go to 2819 and probably never will. My mission field is in the streets, in my community, in prisons, in crack houses. I focus on discipleship, training, and spreading the gospel. I live this faith daily, not just talk about it or make videos for clicks. So I ask you-how do you watch his sermons and come back with this rhetoric?
If you want to find flaws, you will. If you want to highlight imperfections, you can. If you want to critique growing pains, that’s your choice. But before you pull back someone else’s curtain, be sure you're ready for us to pull back yours. “Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?” (Matthew 7:3)
I say this in love, hoping you’ll hear it. But whether you do or not, the truth stands.
And if you wondering why am I defending Him it is the same reason I would stand up for you if you were standing up for right. But imo you are missing the mark!
Very well stated. Bless you! 🙏🏾
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Microphoon!!!! 😭😂😭😂
@@ElijahRock92 lmbo great name
You're funny 🤣 🤣🤣
not me realizing it is a spoon only after I read your comment 😂 🤦🏿♀️
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Man I’m not gonna let you and saiko woods keep slandering my bro, make your corny content but please keep 2819 out of it, where was all yall when it was victory church, all this man does is serve god and serve people, the fact yall keep coming for him just for content is crazy. Praying for your heart smh.
Praying for your heart? 😭 what? 😭😭 You don’t think you are being a bit dramatic? I pray Mitchell is good and has good intentions but you are acting like he can’t be wrong. That’s dangerous.
@@LuckyCharmsssssssbruh he’s just a man he sin like me and you but these videos are getting out of hand none of yall know him personally
Yes he’s a man like me and you but he’s also a leader in the Christian body who is responsible for all the people that follow him. Leaders in the church are held to another standard. If leaders hurt the sheep and the sheep leaves. That’s bad! Especially without accountability or confession. That’s not acceptable in the body of Christ and God makes that clear.
@@LuckyCharmsssssss bruh what are you talking about who even said anything about him hurting somebody🧐 I’m confused …… better you have a good day 😒🤷🏿
Thank you! You as well 😊
Delete this video and stop click baiting! If you are a true follower of Christ, restore our brothers and sisters instead of trying to get subscribers for slandering! There are more serious things to talk about! Instead of throwing bricks at what God's doing at 2819, grab one and get to work to help them spread God's kingdom.
No reason for her to delete the video sir. She's speaking truth and you don't like it
I really want to ask you something: what do you have against Phillip Mitchell? You showed clips, and I watched them and observed. I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying, and he's not guilty of what you're accusing him of. So, what's the real problem?
You didn't even give the clips time to play longer, so we could grasp a better understanding. All you did was play short snippets from a whole video, and then you did most of the talking. What's really the issue, because everything you're saying seems unfounded?
Bruh man could have easily addressed his naysayers publicly on their platform though he clearly aimed to gain backing from his congregation and to dissuade people from coming to the RIGHT conclusion.
So let's go through what PAM has done.
1. Called property authoritarian Karens for upholding zoning laws.
2. Most likely knew that his congregation has been affecting the neighborhood though has done nothing about it - no love for one's neighbor.
3. Garnered sympathy of his congregation and those watching for to give money by stating a price.
4. Praising himself like a Pharisee by saying that he did not ask for a collection in a large arena.
5. Took money from a false prophets who fleece the flock.
6. Continuously states how he prepares for his sermons, how long he prays - this is narcissistic behavior.
7. Manipulates the congregation with music, lighting, and emotionality, AND theatrics.
8. Eisegeting the text many times.
9. Foul language from the pulpit as the following statements/phrases "pipe game", "digging out the box", "damn" "hell"-not as to reference the place but as an emphatic statement.
All of which is wrong. To naysayers. Please show me in the Bible where Jesus/ Apostles have done the above.
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As I was listening, my 68 yr old mom heard you and asked, "Is that someone else talking about Trump?" I said, "No." She's talking about the 2819 Pastor again. This spoke volumes to me. Your comentary has the same sound as worldly commentary. The cynical moments and "under the belt" hits were just uncalled for. I remember how the apologetics community LOVED Ravi🤔...and look what happened. Anyway, you've made your point. Now, leave the man alone. If he is in the wrong, the Lord will take care of it. Let's simply keep the brother in prayer.
Wow. Amen. You have "beaten the dead horse" at this point. Let's move on to something else, like white Christian nationalism and its damage to the body of Christ. I usually like this page, but you are cynical and unrelenting regarding Pastor Mitchell. Ok, he did some name-calling. How does that cancel how God is using him? When are you going to show him some grace @tytusjones
@antoinette have you considered doing your own video on Christian nationalism? I’m confident you have more expertise on it than I do. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@TytusJones not at all. I just know that it's a poison. I'm a graduate of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and this is my 25th year serving as a youth minister. Keep up the good theological work. It is necessary.
Did you create a video about Donald Trump promoting the Trump Bible? Clearly, he is not the right person to be endorsing the Bible, as he likely disagrees with some of your theological positions. Yet you have remained silent on this issue, while you are quick to find faults with Pam.
What does this have to do with Donald trump???
@LuckyCharmsssssss nothing it sounds she is calling into question her consitency in how she addresses people she makes video about. It is plausible to call into questions the content of her videos if the way she adresses people are not consistent with what she claims her morals and values are. In other words what is good for the goose is good for the gander!
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It’s called selective outrage. Clearly, Donald Trump is not the person who should be promoting the Bible, yet she remained silent on this issue. That’s what I’m talking about.
No its not a cult. When the world stands up for itself . People cheer even for evil stuff. But the righteous are as bold as a Lion. Christian are not supposed to be weak. We are not the ones who shrink back . Funny people won't mock the world. But will mock God in a minute. The man stands for Xhrist and not carnal minded worldly people. Who calls themselves Christian.
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I just started following you and not even a week later you post on good people who serve the Father just to get views....??? It's not funny nor is it a good look ma'am. I pray you at least spend time with Yesuha and seek guidance instead of attention 🙏🏽 blessings 🙌🏽
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He been suspect to me. Sorry. He should have said he didn't need money. Also, no one is coming after him! You have to follow the law
It seems you are anticipating something negative to happen in 2819. However, you support Seko Wood, who disrespects fellow believers. But you say nothing about him.
@@klc3416 birds of a feather flock together
Supported in what way?
@TytusJones, do you watch SW's videos? You referenced PAM using the term "Karen" and stated that he should not have done that. However, SW regularly insults people. Have you posted any comments addressing his insulting behavior? If not, it seems that you are supporting his actions.
@klc3416 you watched this video, do you support what was said in it?
@@TytusJones You didn't answer my question about SW?
One word, REPENT from a critical spirit - it is not of God! People are lost and on their way yo hell...Anyone caught up in this are treading on dangerous ground! Watch it!
You are always so negative on people seeking to do good. Use your platform to uplift. This young pastor is doing a tremendous job bringing light with the scriptures in a world where so many wolves are walking around in sheep clothing, but all you do is spout negativity for what? Clicks!!
Disagree.
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What are you doing for the kingdom.
Amen, it seems as though when a group of blacks were a cult and if that’s the case Christianity can be labeled a cult. Let’s do better sister!
This comment isn’t uplifting. 🫠🫠🫠
Miss Tytus- you have done videos that addressed criticism... why does 2819 need to come off of the internet but not you?
I’m not a pastor, I’m a content creator. Good content creators engage with the people that watch them, even when we disagree. Pastors are supposed to preach the Gospel, not throw shade from the pulpit because of the criticism. As Christians we’re called to be targets for criticism and to handle it with maturity. As you say, context matters.
@@TytusJones Regardless of being a "content creator" as a CHRISTIAN you should be uplifting others as the bible tells us to.. If you don't have anything nice to say, you should lead yourself & your followers to PRAY for him and his church! If something is not of God, ask it to be revealed and that you can have discernment to know the difference! I am not a member of 2819, but I do watch pastor Mitchell and believe he is TRULY on fire for God. I pray that you being a "content creator" does not cloud your duty as a believer in Christ, which is to SPREAD THE GOSPEL, be kind, and love all! God Bless you!
here is the thing, i think Christians we have messed up, because we have created a culture of having a person who is venerated yet people left Catholicism 4 this same reason let's be honest here why are people drawn to this kind of church activity we can't just blame the pastors something is happening inside you as a person, that's why you can't fathom people bringing up real theological concerns about the METHODS a pastor is using, all the time Christians refuse 2 be warned, and it's always us women we are very vulnerable to this thing because of i guess how we are wired, there is no such thing as a person saving souls, God saves souls, souls don't come to Christ because of a person, people are afraid 2 have their faith in their hands that's why when some1 who is logical comes through y'all wanna equate logic with carnality but theological boundaries are there to safeguard "you" the Christian, it could be genuine mistakes he is making but they are mistakes none the less & if he can't be called out on it now, good luck after he has built that whatever acre church, these people need to get theological advisors even in their ranks who help them because even the book of James explains how teaching is a very sensitive area you can sway people if you are not careful but they don't wanna hear it neither do y'all you want people to gloss over these early mistakes which turn into (woman manipulated & abused at so & so church), (how so & so used to manipulate his congregation)
@@ChrissieThefirst I would MUCH rather have a conversation RELEVANT to the comments I post than for you to come under everything I say with a copy and paste comment. Reply to what I say and I will answer! :) Copy Paste and I will not. Be blessed Chrissie.
@@prettyleeley5277 the same comment is relevant to all the things you are all saying, why should i keep writing big paragraphs when it's all the same mindset i am addressing
I don’t think this was a fair critique of what was communicated from pastor Phillip. The clips of portions of what was said feeds a narrative implicitly (the implicit manner you accused him of). He also goes on to explain his statement about talking about the dollar amount. Why not play the whole statement and critique the entire thing?
Most ppl watching this are watching because they’ve already seen the full clip.
@@TytusJones but that still doesn't address why not show the whole statement and THEN critique? Regardless of whether you think "Most people" have seen the full clip or not? Do you want the ppl to be correctly & FULLY informed? or?
Agree, Miss Titus he missed an opportunity. He could’ve taught his congregation how to respond to criticism in a godly way he also could have reflected and understood why people may have been turned off that he went to Daystar and light of all that is going on there.
Right! It just seems like his recent actions contradict what he built his platform on.
@TytusJones I really want to ask you something: what do you have against Phillip Mitchell? You showed clips, and I watched them and observed. I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying, and he's not guilty of what you're accusing him of. So, what's the real problem?
You didn't even give the clips time to play longer, so we could grasp a better understanding. All you did was play short snippets from a whole video, and then you did most of the talking. What's really the issue, because everything you're saying seems unfounded?
I hate to be assuming, but something just don’t feel right about this church.
And so what are your faults? Don’t be a hater.. don’t allow the Devil to use you… you’re not even saying anything worth pointing out… you pointing out others, better make sure you’re dotting your i’s and crossing your T’s…
Usually, I like a lot of your content, but you’re definitely off the mark here. You may not like his style of preaching. Which is fine. But that does not make him a cult leader or a false teacher. And I believe in exposing false teachers and teaching so people won’t be deceived. But it seems like you and other content creators are picking him apart for content.
Hey sis! I appreciate your feedback. Here’s my main concern with this 2819 ordeal. You have a pastor who presents himself as THE model pastor for America. While his theology may be correct, this kind of self promotion is highly concerning. Ask yourself, is it ok for a pastor to call people Karens because they complain about the traffic? Is 2819 or Pastor Mitchell the only place where someone can hear the gospel? Because it seems like ppl from that church really believe that. When ppl are more loyal to a man than they are to the faith, that’s a red flag. All that being said, I’m glad that yall aren’t just agreeing with me because you like my channel.
No Karen's isn’t ok but it is a term people can understand . Also you are making blanket statements as if you have all the background information . You explain it as if it is black and white cut and dry . Like you know it's Just him being mad for being corrected for breaking the law. Do you know that there isn't more happening behind close doors here are some things to consider ( racism, those who are against the body of Christ, spiritual warfare ( the devil definitely uses people to war against soul winners) and I don't think he believes they have copyright on the Gospel lol.
I think what he is saying is what I have seen traveling the country and all over the united states and that is in the mid western church we by majority are not very Discipleship ship focus Gospel focus or Bible focus.
Lastly defending someone you beleive in is not proof that your Allegiance to christ is wavering and it isn't wise to over focus on new converts or babes in Christ. because they are not the best test subject and if you are honest we both know that they are low hanging fruit to prove points of this manner!
Be careful!! You know you cannot have a non salvific different opinion from the urban crowd 😂😭 no but seriously! We need to stop being so fast to gravitate to people just because they have charisma and this and that. We also need to stop idolizing and walking in cliques in the church like we are in highschool.
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Don't say urban say black and I guess that joke really make Jesus smile . The level of pride is baffling in this circle.. but we all know how our God feels about pride. But carry on cause the urban in me is coming out!
This is so sad, I really enjoyed his sermons and for him to now stand there, and deflect what he said and make the viewers out to be confused and in the wrong is a straight narcissist move.
He did imply needing $250k, and even told his congregation to not slack in their giving/tithing.
This is what happens when we fall for the tears and emotionally charged hype.
To add insult to injury, he says they have millions saved up to go towards purchasing a new building and in 2 years should have the full 7 million to pay the building off in cash. Like huh?? So if you already have millions on hand what in the world was that stunt all about?!
Right! And why remove the video that shows EXACTLY what you said in the previous message?
And why didn’t he stop Joni and Dave for imploring Daystar viewers to assist them with resources? He’s sitting right there while it’s happening; two people taking his words out of context and he doesn’t correct them. Just stop it.
@@TytusJones Sis, the video was removed because of the comments made towards city/gov/higher officials that were ACTIVELY trying & could have gotten the church SHUT DOWN in less than the 60 day window given.
@@prettyleeley5277he has to follow city ordinances..we have to obey the laws of the land....he could have actively worked with the community through service and love as well as connecting with the political officials in Atlanta .... It doesn't matter now ..be happy God made a way for him to get a building 🎉
The city of Atlanta is innocent in all of this .... Many churches are in ATL and they make relationships with the community
Soon as you said baalyonces internet, yea. Case closed. Be well sis. Something “ain’t quite right with you”
I thought the same thing. Criticizing this man of God leading souls closer to Christ over the most nitpicking things, but then calling it “Beyonce’s internet” is crazy work.
THIS RIGHT HERE. She lost me as soon as she said it.
I think there is a level of pride I’m seeing when it comes to your videos! It’s like you have this “God complex “ and you believe your view is right …
It’s kind of scary … a hit dog wil holler and I think you’re the dog in this situation.
Don’t you believe your view is right? 👀
Those are just your thoughts, not reality.
I think Ms Tytus was very sincere in her response. She even offered sources. Not one time did she commit a straw man fallacy. I see there’s a lot of followers like yourself attacking people for their honest opinions. This is even more proof of the cult like following 2819 has.
@@samtv6659 was it prideful of P.A.M to point his finger in the camera and say, "I'm only gonna tell you this one time, repent before the Lord." Then stand there with a thug stance and receive applause?
@@PMT525 No, because of what he was addressing in that moment (False Preachers/People misleading others from God) Him saying "Repent before the Lord" and also quoting scripture that says they will be judged MORE harshly by God is NOT pride, its truth. Be blessed friend!
Why not just ask the pastor himself instead of doing all this? Go to the source of your concern.
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I definitely got narcissistic vibes from him...and all his followers that attack others for critiquing him are his flying monkeys
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People say leave that man alone - as if God would never want us to have wisdom and discernment when things are obviously way off
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What is this man doing that is wrong. Idk where u go to church but i can see u doing know the word
Instead of spending time with God n praying for your soul, you spending it criticising a man who is preaching the gospel.. I feel sorry for you.
What church do you know that the congregation doesn’t defend their pastor and their church, good, bad, or indifferent- but especially when the church is welcoming, calls out “clicks and snubbing” to ensure that all feel welcomed… To call out the church as a cult is irresponsible behavior in my opinion, especially if you don’t watch complete sermons and can’t point to anything cultish in his preaching or teaching. What I’m hearing is you speak about the rapid growth, and those that appreciate his work responding in defense of their church and pastor . So many content creators, you included take the opportunity to give opinions for and based on clickbait clips. In the times we are living God’s truth is coming to pass…. I applaud calling out those who preach false doctrine, and bend to the culture that’s in my opinion again worth it to open the eyes of new followers and even those seeking to become a believer… Lord I pray that the hearts of believers would be softened and more open to loving our neighbors as we love ourselves and recognizing our neighbors are all. Let us all be convicted by the spirit to not bare false witness based on our limited knowledge, understanding or our feeling but find direction in scripture that would move us to grow in love, faith and fellowship.
It sounds like she has an issue with people actually loving their pastor.
That's a strawman argument
Also he said he didn’t have the money. He said that God made him be able to give to another church who needed 100k when they don’t have the money for their church.
He said they were CLOSE to their goal for a down payment on their OWN building, but had the EXTRA money (Praise God) to help ANOTHER struggling church who needed 100k to keep their building open. That was possible ONLY due to the Lord softening the hearts of some men that owned the ONLY building that could hold all their growing members until they could purchase their OWN church building. Not only did God soften their hearts and they agreed for them to have services there, they also signed off for TWO YEARS! God managed a few miracles in just ONE shot! I hope that gave clarity! Be blessed friend in Christ!
He has the money for the temporary location which will house the church for 2 year he need the money for the final location and mentioned it’s in arms reached, seeing as though the contract was signed and they need to be out in 90 days you should conclude he has the money…
Idk... Maybe I'm old school. Church business needs to be discussed in private in a church meeting with church leaders first then in a church meeting where all members are welcomed. He needs to stop telling all the church business to the public and then maybe ppl won't comment on his actions. Preach the Gospel on the pulpit and leave it at that. Great job Ms. T!!
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Gracious! I attend 2819. All I know is I would never want to have a platform because everything you do is under a microscope.
Now that’s the truth 😭😭😭
But you’re building your platform on negativity and gossip… who are you helping with this mess? The only thing that needs to be under a microscope is yourself.. you have to give an account of YOU… not anyone else!!
Thank you. He should habe clerified that he did nit need money. It makes people feel bad for giving. He been suspect to me for sometime. To animated for me.
chopping up his video into 3 second clips to set a narrative you learnt much fro CNN . The black Pastor is doing too much , seen too much . thats too much power for one man huh?
So Tytus are you implying that 2819 church pastor may be a cult leader? Is this why you reccomend this book so his congregation can read it to see if there are any red flags at his church that's pointed out this book? It seems this book is reccomended and directed towards this man.
We need to repent for the LORD for criticizing Phillip?
Phillip uses the SAME tactics that many cult leaders and false teachers use, ANY criticism is seen as opposing God Himself, so wild!
I haven't said too much about Phillip (many have asked) and have been slow to do anything regarding him, but I've always had concerns with the preaching of his. It makes good for viral clips of you yelling and crying tho but that doesnt mean it necessarily a good sermon. Much more I could say as well.
That’s so true bro!!! What a lotta ppl don’t understand is that just because a pastor is right about a lot doesn’t mean the pastor isn’t in major error! A mature shepherd wouldn’t have went on an emotional rant because of the backlash. It’s a RED FLAG! And it just doesn’t seem like he’s being very transparent about this moving situation. The details keep changing!
I would love for you to make a video on the negative impact that smart Christian channel has on many Christian’s. If you notice a lot the videos cause division within the body of Christ people arguing with one another which I’m sure isn’t biblical within the body it pushes carnality everyone saying who they follow and who they don’t follow. I’m wondering if though Corey’s intent is to help is it actually hurting at the same time like many of the new UA-cam reaction “Christian” videos aren’t they very worldly and are these videos more like a new tmz for Christian’s and the biggest thing I e noticed is that it seems as though many and I say this because I also fell to this when watching these videos often, feel as though they are now better than others in there walk because they aren’t doing what others may be doing at the time. So Kdub I would really love for you to do a video like that assessing these types of channels and really seeing is it hurting or helping. And maybe a suggestion is just turn the comments section off share their opinions but not give room for the arguments and controversies among the body.
Where are you with the "Gaslight" sound effect? We need it for this one? Is this some type of arson?
@@Acts2618I don’t believe his channel is causing a negative impact. But if you feel it is feel free to make a video. 👍
@ fair enough. I don’t have the ability to make a video that’s why I asked you being that you guys are friends and you do assess the content of other people and you would give an unbiased view into the issues that some of the comment sections cause as well as the videos that are other reaction videos but mostly pushing gossip. I thought it would be beneficial and probably give insight and help those like myself who have those questions. Anyways thank you. And just so you know Im actually a supporter of your channel in case you got offended and thought I was trying to be mean or something.
Whew chile, I’m stressed out now 😂. I’m just gone read my bible and pray. Everything and everyone seems to be compromised in the Christian faith nowadays 😩
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You’re absolutely right so many Christians and so many Churches have been indoctrinated with false teachings but still there are many solid, Biblical sound Pastors and teachings you can learn from and grow. Miss Tytus is someone that’s Biblical sound you can learn from and grow; just stick with her and listen to the people that she recommends and you’ll be in the presence of GOD. Btw I love your username Nappyblkgurl. Natural nappy headed black women are more beautiful than white society wants anyone to believe.
Wow. You are obsessed with him yourself. This is concerning what this page has turned into.
Are you obsessed with 2819?
Are you familiar with the term trending topic? If I’m obsessed with anyone it would clearly be Stephen Darby. Probably got 50 videos on him. 🫠🫠🫠
@@TytusJones I'm just asking because your last couple have been about them.
And yes, I am familiar with the term trending topic.
@@valeriejones7146They've been trending for 2 weeks 🤷🏾♀️
@@valeriejones7146 So NOW what I want to know is, are u targeting the church bc of a "trend?" or bc its a "trending topic?"... Idk mannn I been trying to have a healthy debate with sis about some of the stuff she been saying in comments and cant get a response lol
This is interesting because we as Christians can idolize anything. We can misplace worship for God around God’s business.
I think there is a huge level of jealousy going on…
HUGE. I dont go that church but she is incredibly obsessed with him, by far of anyone ive seen. Its quite embarrassing. Super unhealthy obsession
Last Comment! Why on earth does he have 50 staff? Even with 6,000, you dont have that large of a staff. I been in a church with double, and a staff of about 15 full-time staff. It's not adding up!
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Are they all PAID staff?
Why does he choose to focus on something so insignificant and meaningless ? There was such an outpouring of love and support for his church last week as people from across the globe donated money to 2819. A lot of that support was caused by these content creators playing his videos. I read comments from so many of their viewers saying they either didn’t know about 2819 or the situation with the church. As a result they planned to donate. There were content creators who literally dropped his church’s links in their content because they wanted people to support him. Why focus on the handful of individuals who may have said something negative? It makes him seem thin skinned and immature. I’m sorry he reminds me of the children of Israel complaining about quail after complaining about the manna after complaining about water. Enough!!! Just say thank you and dismiss the minutia.
Sighhhh. I don't agree with all of your opinions and positions on the topics you choose to raise. My only prayer is that you make sure your intent is pure. Additionally, Pastor seems to be lacking mentorship, leadership, right relationships. There is absolutely NO REASON for him to address or respond to any comments made about him or his sermons. If you are confident God knows your heart, orders your heart and works, your intentions and purposes are pure, there is nothing for you to say to "critics." Stop it. These seeds pride, ego, and lack or self control will not serve him later one.
Ohhhh He told us didn’t he?! Buuurn 😂 Folks in the comments are being disingenuous and proving your point. PAM is unqualified, yea I said it! Lol You were being nice in your critique.
Thank you sis!!! 😭😭😭
And if he had money he should had a spot. No problem. Folks, put your thinking caps on.
I think this video was done in good taste. While I love Pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell's boldness, and his passion, if I'm honest, there's something about him that causes me to "proceed with caution". I appreciate you inserting the clip of him talking about how much money was needed, and although he did not say please donate, he might as well have. I wonder if those that donated, felt like his comments on last Sunday, was a slap in their face, not once did I hear him say thank you. That spoke volumes and came off as prideful, I will continue to keep him in prayer🙏🏽
Wow I didn’t even think about how he didn’t say thank you!!! 🤯🤯🤯
I too love this video. I am undecided on 2819 and the pastor. I’m where PMDS1979 is. I’m incredibly “uncertain” about him and unusually cautious about my take on him. I haven’t watched entire services or heard entire sermons. I can’t put my finger on it, but I must say that what teaching/preaching/videos I have seen, haven’t tugged at my heart. I honestly don’t see or hear the appeal that others do, who follow and admire this ministry.
Not to point fingers or find fault. 6k people needing a building to congregate seems like overkill, especially when there’s so much Christian-discipleship needed outside of the building in these streets where the souls are. For me, it was that plea for ONE building to hold 6k, that was cult-ish. The other thing that was cult-ish to me was being so emotionally drained or damaged that “he couldn’t preach”, so there’s NO ONE ELSE who can feed the sheep???? Something is definitely off….
I didn’t have the energy to figure out what in the world was going on with Pastor Mitchell 😂. I seen people talking about him, how he didn’t ask for money, and then people were saying Tomi Arayomi was lying or boasting about the money he gave him? I’m like chile…I don’t know what’s going on. Either way, I like Pastor Mitchell-however it is still some character growth that needs to happen. With any of us, tbh.
Side Note:Girl, I absolutely love those earrings ❤❤
Thank you sis!!!! 🥹🙏🏾❤️
Amen sister! We all could use a little more Character growth.
Yeap. Last week everyone and their Momma were making Go Fund Me type donations. If you didn’t need the money, you should’ve clarified last Monday. Will you be giving the money back on the unnecessary donations as you stated you DON’T need the money now???? This is messy
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He clarified to all who were truly listening friend! Watch it again because he asked if anybody had been touched by the ministry or his teachings to PRAY for him and 2819! He only informed of the monetary stuff so ppl could see how DETRIMENTAL it was! God bless!
@@prettyleeley5277 why didn't he stop people who "misunderstood " him from collecting money he didn't need? This man was not misunderstood, he is being dishonest now. We all knew money was being collected on his behalf, because we all understood him to be asking for money. He knew money was being collected on his behalf, if it was a misunderstanding WHY DID HE NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM COLLECTING MONEY ON HIS BEHALF AND SET THE RECORD STARIGHT! Answer this question honestly! WHY DD HE LET THE COLLECTIONS CONTINUE?
You people like idolizing man, so you'd rather be dishonest, throw away common sense instead of removing the man from the pedestal you've put him on.
I completely agree with you! I wish more Christians could stop idolizing men. The man def was asking for money, then he turned around and gaslit everyone 😮
I don't even mind him asking for money, that's his members, he can do that. However I'm bothered by the lies! And I will never compromise godly character to keep a man on a pedestal. Truth is truth!
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I’ve only seen one video of him like a long full sermon, and I would see shorts of his preaching. I never ever got cult vibes from him or any red flags, however, the atmosphere of his sermons always made me feel on edge and drained which was strange. That could just be me though because certain things really overstimulate me. I, very recently, had a really lowkey traumatic experience at a church that wasn’t mine when I was venturing out and going to their Bible studies that was definitely very cult like. I could hear the Lord literally telling me to LEAVE but I was so scared. After that all happened and I left, that fear hit me all at once and caused me to be really paranoid. Now I’m really fearful of venturing out and trying other churches, also I don’t want to fall into deception because I recently found out a few pastors I was subscribed to were also false teachers 😪🤧 please pray for me.
Praying for you Amelia! I’m very sorry for your experience. 😞
@madebyam3lia I am sorry you had such a tragic and traumatic experience in church! I pray that your fear and anxiety is released in JESUS name!! Only our Lord and Savior can bring the relief and peace from breaking those bonds. Seek Jesus Christ and ask him for healing and pray regarding having discernment when looking for a spiritual leader! I had to do the same after God revealed to me some of the people I had been watching were truly NOT of God and were NOT preaching the TRUE gospel! I asked for the Lord to give me discernment and lead me to a pastor who was on FIRE for God, and truly about saving souls and he lead me! I am praying for you love! God Bless you!
Love you Ms. Tytus and I’m gone stand beside you lol. Like most people I was excited about Pastor Mitchell as well and still am but not as much. My first red flag was when he had to apologize for cussing, reporting that’s how they preach in New York. My concern was if no one said anything what other curse words would you use. I started backing up then.
Then it was the testicle comment and for sure the threatening message recently. I’m older and not interested at all of falling in love, or being infatuated with a Preacher or anyone else for that matters. I’m only interested in Preacher that are pointing me to Jesus and those that teach sound doctrine and can help me learn more and grow deeper in Gods word. Another red flag is when you start acting like a thug because you’re being talked about. It’s ok to address concerns and misunderstandings sometimes but if you keep doing that, where is the word? I’ll be keeping him on pause for now and praying. As for you young lady, forge ahead and keep doing what you’re doing. I’d love to have a one on one with you. Much Love.
Thank you so much sis!!! I really appreciate the encouragement and would love to meet in the future if the Lord allows! 🙏🏾❤️🥹
Not one of us is perfect on this earth, including this spiritual leader. Has he made some mistakes? Yes he has! Now a question for you sister, have you heard his testimony? Where he came from? Not just him being a pastor from NYC that moved to ATL, but his TESTIMONY? Also, ur pointing out his actions.. but never spoke on whether or not he was "pointing you to Jesus, or teaching sound doctrine that helps learn and grow deeper in Gods word" Is his doctrine sound? Is he pointing ppl to Jesus? Is he trying to save souls for God? (Not arguing, genuinely asking sister!)
@@prettyleeley5277 she has done another video where she questions some of his doctrine and theology.
@@keontemonique8538 I was directing that comment to niecey sis! Thank you for that information though! I will look into that! :) God Bless!
@@keontemonique8538yup and it was 💯
I’ve been reading through these comments and it’s disheartening to see such negativity toward someone who clearly seeks to lead with grace and truth. It's important to remember that when we engage with one another, especially in the online world, we are representing Christ. His call for us to love one another and to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) should be our guiding principle in all our interactions.
Critiquing, when done with humility and wisdom, is a healthy part of our growth as believers. However, attacking or tearing down another believer doesn’t align with the heart of the gospel. Let’s remember to approach one another with grace and understanding, and if there are areas where correction is needed, may we do so in a spirit of gentleness and kindness (Galatians 6:1).
I really appreciate the heart of Miss Tytus and her commitment to sharing the truth with love. I pray we can all encourage one another to grow in grace rather than allowing bitterness or judgment to take root. Let’s strive to build each other up, as the Bible calls us to do (1 Thessalonians 5:11).
Blessings
Welcome to the channel and thank you so much! 🙏🏾🥹🙏🏾
Keep in mind also that NO ONE really spoke evil of him....they just simply raised valid questions......🤷🏽♀️ i just told someone yesterday i do not prefer his style of preaching and they got so mad.....i was like i am FREE as a Christian to not prefer a Pastor or church.....are they learning the gospel and how to live for Christ? Or are they just learning how to be in a clique? That's the concern....
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I would also add that if ppl don't appreciate some of the critiques, perhaps churchs should stop airing their church "business," that's really a matter between them, the residents, and the community. Old school would call it a "business meeting!"
Sad that someone got upset with you regarding your choice and style of spiritual leader.. that was wrong because you are free to choose the type of leader u want to follow, as long as they are preaching TRUE gospel.. However I would like to ask outside of the clips about the "announcement" have you ever watched him? Seen a full episode of a sermon? How have you come to the conclusion that he's not teaching the gospel and how to live for Christ? (serious question sis, not being funny at all)
@@mistervalentine5420 fair point, but let's again be reminded that he said what he said on platform asking for PRAYER, not money, or to air out "church business". The numeric amounts he spoke on was to paint a picture that this is DETRIMENTAL and time was running out, it was not about "begging for funds" as it was painted in SO many videos, which in turn was why he responded about people twisting his words. It was him asking anybody that had been touched by his ministry whether a member or not, to PRAY with his church for favorable outcome regarding the building he said was dilapidated but their ONLY option due to not having funds for the other building. God bless u brother!
You don’t like his style of preaching so i guess you like the false teaching line td Jake’s and other fake pastors
Filthy communication corrupts good manners... ....ma'am, I think you have it wrong. Folks have been saved, delivered, and set free! Pastor Mitchell is what the Church needs today, truth and Biblical teaching. 2819 has a panel of Elders and Advisors.....he doesn't move without the Holy Spirit or them. Watch who you put your mouth on young lady.... IJS....
Phil addressed all the "Hateration and Holleration"😂😂😂😂
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I be forgetting some of the random stuff I say in these videos 😂😭😂
@@Redeemed_by_chr1st clock it lol
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So you listen to his messages with red pen 🖋️? I think you need Christ in your life my dear sister.
Yes, I think God wants us to listen critically to ALL pastors whether we trust them or not.
You are quite right Miss Tytuss. There is no apology from the Pastor about calling others ‘Karen’s’, and that is wrong. Added to the fact that his approach to bring his church problems to the world by weeping shows weakness as a leader and that he does not trust God in this situation. Then he comes back being vindictive to persons that try to rebuke and correct him. Come on the signs are there. Too much arrogance.
Sister I'm sorry to say but the enemy is using you.
I'm starting to wonder if anyone in this chat has the heart of Christ, because what I can discern, this man of God is legit and all you want is views and comments.
No matter if his heart is sincere for the gospel, he can't win for losing with people like you.
The devil is laughing at us right now.
No my discernment went off about this man a while ago she has every right
@@jennyvargas328 Like a bright light!!
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Does she now? I disagree but everyone has an opinion.
Your discernment, are you sure it's not just your own fleshly suspicion? It doesn't sound like it's from the Holy Spirit, and may God correct me if I'm wrong. I believe if Paul himself was here people like y'all would be having a ball coming for him. It's quite sad how the enemy makes it easy to cause discord among us. What exactly has he said or done wrong that's against God or the Bible?
An wise person once said "what is in you, will come out of you" and his style of preaching says alot. So he will attract that worldly christian. His rebuke and anger displays a lack of maturity (spiritual and personal). His 2819 hive definitely be ready to hit back which only proves their cult like energy. But i say to them...ok girl, y'all ain't a cult 🤷🏼♀️
They really do operate like a hive! 😭😭😭
My church leader does not ask for membership cause the things he preach which is the word of God and he’s not one of those entertainers
I see nothing wrong with what the pastor of 2819 has said or done so far 🤷🏽♀️
A cult no never. This pastor looks for God's answers and leads his sheep with passion and sound word. What he speaks in him is that spirit that giving to him by our Father. His sheep need to know Jesus and when a pastor is separated from his master then the sheep are left without a shepherd. Easily picked off by the enemy because they don't know the true shepherd.
But when the sheep know the true shepherd, them the sheep are led by the true shepherd whether if the pastor is leading them or not. This how these sheep are recognized.
Sheep will not follow a stranger.
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You said he chose to escalate...what are you doing by going on Beyonce's internet escalating the issue with this video by trying to drag a man for spreading the word of God. Instead of critizing the man see if you can pull apart his preaching. Try it. Find Jesus
This pastor isn’t getting criticized for spreading the gospel. He’s getting criticized for making what appears to be contradictory and abusive statements. Ephesians 5 says we’re to expose the UNFRUITFUL deeds of darkness. Jude 3 says to contend for the faith. Read your Bible. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@TytusJones When you say what appears to be contradictory and abusive statements. Like you calling his Ministry a cult.
@@lavoniachisholm3930 she did not say that she said it looks like it's enroute, saying if you keep mixing these colours i've seen them producing purple is not saying it is definitely purple that u are making, it's 2 say those playing in these paints be careful historically that's how they get purple, bt anyway it doesn't even matter the owner of us the body of Christ will deal with us accordingly😂 let's all concentrate of washing our garments we can argue about other ppl all we want but the relationship with Him is the real equalizer
In my humble opinion any person who points people to themselves, to self, to a higher level in God, a single church body or a denomination, is a cult leader. Servants of God serve (teaching/discipling) by pointing people to the Author of Soul Winning, Christ Jesus. Amen.
Pastor Mitchell is fantastic. He's the real, the raw, and most can't vibe with him because they're not on his level. Stop trolling and keep it moving.
“They’re not on his level.” This is why it’s coming across as cultish. 🫠🫠🫠
@TytusJones a cult? Y'all are delusional. You must not know the definition of a cult. SMH
Sister Titus, Your discernment, observation & critique of “2819” is very balanced & on point. It is apparent that the Holy Scriptures are your final authority. I appreciate your content & the soundness of your faith in Christ…Ambassador
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Nooo Tytus is in rebellion- witchcraft… AINT NOTHING BALANCED ABOUT HER BELIEVING IN PAGAN HOLIDAYS…
That cooking fork thing is taking me out. 😂😂😂😂😂
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Sister Tytus these videos are a HUGE stumbling block please hear me out. for example....I recently introduced someone into new age, with little concept of Christianity to Philip/2819 sermons. This person was so moved by Philip's preaching it made them want to listen to more and now they are in the process of being drawn to Christ. It opened up a full conversation about Jesus, the Bible, and I can now be there to help them down this journey now too and answer questions they have.
Now when they type in 2819 this video pops up at the top if they watch it it's going to cause nothing but confusion and push them away.
Please put yourself in the shoes of someone who isn't a Christian or someone interested in learning about the Lord. After another Christian plants the seed, this type of "TMZ" content corrupts it. These videos look so baffling and ridiculous to them and I have heard many said it turns them away or turns them off from Christianity completely.
I don't believe there is anyway in good faith you can honestly tell me this type of content is building the body of Christ, it's hurting it.
It’s gonna save a lotta ppl from thinking it’s ok to be verbally abused by a pastor or a toxic church. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@ C'mon sister that was an insane prideful response and you even tried to twist it like you're not the stumbling block when many have called you out about that. You are taking the 1% debateable negative and disregarding the 99% positive Philip's teaching and ministry is doing. No offense but from your channel all I've seen is toxicity and harm to the body of Christ. We have seen actual fruit of Philip winning souls to Christ. He's helped many including myself turn from a life of sin. All we're seeing from your channel is rotten fruit in the comments and division and you refuse to let your ego down and take the rebukes. Remember God opposes the proud. I will be praying for you tonight sister that God can work on your heart about this ❤️
10 minutes in And I'm just now realizing that's not a real mic ...
Clearly I need another cup of coffee 🤦🏾♀️😂
😂😭😂 it’s a mic attached to a spoon 😭😭😭
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PLEASE STOP!!!!!!!!!
YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!
PLEASE STOP!!!!!!!!!!!
@7:43 I think the conversation of cults is important but a complex one right? Jonestown and Waco being more obvious examples. But ministries with charismatic leaders with somewhat big personalities who are a bit out there to me makes the conversation more difficult. I think what people don't like, they start to use the label of cult on. I think that anything that uses the Christianity label should re-examine itself and see it is really of Christ or not. It should all be leading back to Jesus. All of this extracurricular talk about anything else to me is not Christian or of Christ. People start making up their own philosophies within the faith and because there is no one spiritual authority over them correcting them, they just are all over the place.