Just found George's channel and found he had an episode with my favorite youtuber! Hope you're doing well man I really appreciate all the education you've provided. It really changed my life ending my 20's on a really high note
Social stigma of adult kids living at home really annoys me. Asian culture is you live with parents until you get married. We also take care of our parents. And never send them to nursing homes
Kids stay home with parents and dont get into debt and grow their lives and parents stay healthier longer as they care for grandkids. One generation cares for the other. This system prevents debt, stress for caring for young kids and older parents and their is no time for depression.
The United States values independence and doing it on your own. If you are a man especially, living with your parents is a huge turn off to the opposite sex. Besides you can take care of your parents while also having your own place to live.
The retirement question - I retired in 2021, didn't do anything for over 2 years. Was going 'stir crazy'. Now I am doing 1099 gigs and really like it. BSM - No Debt - Work at what I want to when I want to. It's AWESOME. Wouldn't be in this position if it wasn't for the Ramsey Plan that we started in 2014!
2 smart people getting coffee…love it. Thanks to Ramsey my wife and I are less than 2 years away from owning our house and being completely debt free. The stress of being debt free is so worth it. Thanks George
My two favorite financial HOTTIES. Great to see the two of you together. Been following your channels for the past two years. Thanks for all the good financial advice.
I have seen other comments like this but I would love to see some everyday millionaires on your interviews. Not that other personalities aren’t real people. It would be nice to some non-UA-camrs getting a free coffee from you! And hear theirs stories of course.
I am doing the same thing after college. I have no loans and my parents want me to stay at home after graduation while I work. They want me to save and invest as much as I can. They told me I can stay as long as I like. I don’t care what others think of me if I stay at my parent’s home for some time. I would stay here until I feel I should go.
This was a great conversation. Not only did I relate to more than one habit but feel I learned as well. I do get a kick out of saving too. Great content!
I'm single income living in California on a clerk salary with > $1 million net worth. I own a house, debt free, and a 98 Camry paid cash $5K. Everyone can be a millionaire in America. It's the BEST country in the world.
Yes, everyone can, came from Africa 30 yrs ago with nothing. Made many mistakes but was still able to turn things around after 2012. Net-worth now above 1.8. That is excluding what my better half has in her own 401k. We are above 3. Thank God for America.❤
16:45 Americans also rely on social services to get them through retirement which puts a strain on the system for people who actually need it. People think the government will take care of them instead of themselves taking care of their families.
It’s not awarded on a needs basis but it should be” only” for those who paid in. My daughter was saying that she wanted to retire early- Unless you have something to keep you busy- Don’t do it! It’s boring
Frowning on living at home post college is a largely American stigma. It's typically the norm among immigrant families especially if you're single at the time of graduation. As well as a lot of immigrants grow up in a multigenerational household, so your parents take care of you as long as needed and when the time comes when they need help you do the same ie your parents will live with you baring needing assisted care or something along those lines
@@republicunited2183 My parents encouraged it as well since I work in IT and can work remotely. They just told me that I had to "pay" them ~1.5k a month that they would put into a bank account I can't touch and return it to me when I want to buy a house. So once I did buy a house I had the full 20% down payment and I was already conditioned to the expenses of a mortgage, utilities, etc
@@republicunited2183 My parents actively encouraged it seeing as I work in IT and work remotely. They just told me that I had to pay them ~1.5k a month which they would return to me once I decide to buy a house. Once I did choose to buy a house I had 35% of the house in cash so I put 20% down and the rest to furnish the house and an emergency fund. And since I was already paying a simulated mortgage I was already conditioned to the expenses that come with a household
when you said you're paying with a debit card i marked my un-overdrafted debit card "my best friend :)" and my monzo "be careful - only use pots, not flex" with a sharpie... edit - im using acetone remove the above mentioned from the un-overdrafted card to mark it "my 2nd best friend after ca$h :-/" lol. i really appreciate you and im going to share your channel with my family. Love from Yorkshire, England.
Amazing channel 👍. My aunt passed and I inherited some of her portfolio and cash savings, I'm 28 with about 400k cash in savings and as usual everyone's preaching invest, so what stocks are a good long term buy, only major purchase I intend to make is buying a home in 5 years from my returns
Same, I just use UA-cam for research purposes, I run all my major investment through an investment adviser, the market is just too unstable to handle things on your own.
Awesome episode. I had no idea on the savings rate. We are up to 20% and wish we had done that years ago. Also selling stuff we don't use and saving that money.
Living at home is a huge benefit if you can swing it. I lived at home after college and still do but plan to move out soon. Not having to pay massive rent allows for so much more flexibility in your budget. It helped me get debt free and kick off my investments. Do not be shamed into not living at home!
Another example of why Dave's statement that "most millionaires don't inherit money" is misleading. If we all had financial literacy at a young age, a super high salary at a young age, and could stay at home until 34, we would all be millionaires. I literally had to teach my parents about credit and finance. Good for Yang, but it is what it is.
Inheriting vs Having Help are two different things. Inherit=Getting something. He didn’t inherit his Money. He worked for it. It’s no different than getting 5 different roommates to save money on expenses.
Although his paying them off every 3 days isn’t as good as keeping the funds in an interest-bearing account for 20-30 days before paying them off. It’s basically an interest-free loan from the credit card.
Talk about decoy pricing ...here's an insider secret for you: At Hardee's the large and medium fry are THE SAME SIZE! Save your money and get the medium.
These 2 have no idea what FIRE really means. FIRE does not mean you do nothing getting bored because you are financially independent. That is totally wrong. FIRE means you now have a passive income that enables you to do things that you normally can’t do when you are actively working for a living. Whatever that “things” is, it’s up to you. You can focus on travel the world, or spend time with family, be a better parent, or work because you love the job without the care of how much you get paid. That’s what FIRE is about.
Love that he mentioned that he lived at home as an adult. Too many negative connotations about this. There’s a reason that homelessness does not exist in my country and we don’t send our elders into senior homes 😂
Nothing wrong with living at home. The problems come when you are not contributing to the family life. It seems most examples we hear of when we think of grown kids living at home are those who have done nothing with their lives and have no motivation to help their parents with living expenses, just being a leech. Clearly the guy in this video does not fall in that category.
At what point do you "splurge" on the nice hotel, the family vacation etc. I'm motivated to max my roth ira and do what's necessary to retire comfortable but I don't know how to build the wealth to help me live now until retirement day. Does anyone have a plan or type of acct you recommend to use to do this? Thanks
I’m a 26 y/o female and still live at home. I’m happy with it and my parents are happy with it as they worry about me. They would like me to have a stable relationship and marry before I leave the family home, so they know I’m looked after. I think it’s a culture thing. We have such a good relationship, I get to spend a lot of time with them (life is so short) and I save a lot of money. It a win all around. Besides, adulting (and paying rent) sucks! 😂
I have a lot invested and saved and I can’t be like my financial advisor Dad. He’s always on his laptop desktop or laptop working in his 70’s. He is off when the markets are. But for me I will be going to the gym, pickleball, hockey podcasting, scouting hockey players, writing for a blog still.
We cant commit to one employer anymore because they won't give raises to market pay or invest in training. You have to learn something new and then move jobs to get your market value.
Here's my experience: It is easy to wear old shirts once you are rich. It's like badge of honor. It is also not a big deal to be poor when everyone else around you is poor. None of the people I know are dramatized over how poor we were. Many things Americans mention that they had to live without, we didn't even know existed. But that's the good thing I guess. We all make jokes about wholes in shoes, shoes too big growing up, but wouldn't be the funny if some of us had been rich.
Hit 200k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 17k in last month 2024 Investing with Juliana Heidi
Honestly? I'm so excited. Juliana Heidi strategy has normalized winning trades for me also. and it's a huge milestone for me looking back to how it all started
Most people are retiring this year and has nothing to show for. But I assure you it's never late to get your financial life together again.. All thanks to JuLiana for I and my family.🏝 🇺🇸
I didn't buy new dressy clothing for more than 6 years. I will buy some pieces by the end of the year. The funds will come from my clothing sinking fund. I want to build wealth.
I would love to see you with Ramit Sethi but fundamentally the conversation may be an agreement to disagree and I’m not sure if that brings a lot of value to your channel but I would love to watch.
Please have @HeidiSomers on your show! Her story is incredible! Alaskan girl, moved to Texas, started doing UA-cam videos for health and fitness and she's built an empire with no debt. She's also known as "Buff Bunny" and is the owner of "Buff Bunny Collection" for athletic clothing. AND is a woman of faith in Christ....
Humphrey Yang mentality is pretty much the same as older generation Asians and foreigners. They come here with nothing/little and make the best out of their opportunities.
This episode strikes my ego. I have twice the net worth of Humphrey and I was homeless at 15. If I had a loving family I could’ve lived with, my net worth would easily be double or triple what it is. If you’re living at home it’s a good thing, just don’t waste that time!
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Thanks for having me George! This was so fun. And LOL @ the Intro. How am I behind DUMPTY?
Fair question.. Geoorge 🧐
😂
I think you are fantastic Humphrey. I recommend you to my high school students.
Just found George's channel and found he had an episode with my favorite youtuber! Hope you're doing well man I really appreciate all the education you've provided. It really changed my life ending my 20's on a really high note
LMAOOOOO
Social stigma of adult kids living at home really annoys me. Asian culture is you live with parents until you get married. We also take care of our parents. And never send them to nursing homes
I LOVE that about Asian culture!
Kids stay home with parents and dont get into debt and grow their lives and parents stay healthier longer as they care for grandkids. One generation cares for the other. This system prevents debt, stress for caring for young kids and older parents and their is no time for depression.
Hispanics too! Same
The United States values independence and doing it on your own. If you are a man especially, living with your parents is a huge turn off to the opposite sex. Besides you can take care of your parents while also having your own place to live.
Only to the kids that don't work and beg the parents for money.
The retirement question - I retired in 2021, didn't do anything for over 2 years. Was going 'stir crazy'. Now I am doing 1099 gigs and really like it. BSM - No Debt - Work at what I want to when I want to. It's AWESOME. Wouldn't be in this position if it wasn't for the Ramsey Plan that we started in 2014!
2 smart people getting coffee…love it. Thanks to Ramsey my wife and I are less than 2 years away from owning our house and being completely debt free. The stress of being debt free is so worth it. Thanks George
George just died inside when Yang ordered that donut 😂
😂😂 I thought the same thing
Best comment!
No, look at the Hamfrey face that moment! He loves freebies😅
My two favorite financial HOTTIES. Great to see the two of you together. Been following your channels for the past two years. Thanks for all the good financial advice.
Thanks for bringing Humphrey !
I wanna see Sharon Ramsey on here 😎
Hubert H. Humphrey, V.P. from 1965-1969. Oh, and trumpet player Humphrey Lyttleton. But as a subscriber, I liked the video anyway.
I have seen other comments like this but I would love to see some everyday millionaires on your interviews. Not that other personalities aren’t real people. It would be nice to some non-UA-camrs getting a free coffee from you! And hear theirs stories of course.
I am doing the same thing after college. I have no loans and my parents want me to stay at home after graduation while I work. They want me to save and invest as much as I can. They told me I can stay as long as I like. I don’t care what others think of me if I stay at my parent’s home for some time. I would stay here until I feel I should go.
Preach
This was a great conversation. Not only did I relate to more than one habit but feel I learned as well. I do get a kick out of saving too. Great content!
Wonderful episode!! I had to do a double take when I heard my name though😂 Thanks for the shoutout, George! That was a fun livestream 😁
Changing from FIRE to FINE (Financial Independance, Next Endeavor) is more in line with what most people are doing. Making money on your own terms.
I've always said I'm kind of FIREing but FINE better captures what I'm doing.
George!! I can’t with you 😂😂😂 love your sense of humor. Plus this left us better
Please have Smart Money Bro on your show. He’s a great financial advisor.
I'm single income living in California on a clerk salary with > $1 million net worth. I own a house, debt free, and a 98 Camry paid cash $5K. Everyone can be a millionaire in America. It's the BEST country in the world.
Everyone can? Not even close to being true
If everyone in America became a millionaire it would mean inflation hit 1000%.
Yes, everyone can, came from Africa 30 yrs ago with nothing. Made many mistakes but was still able to turn things around after 2012. Net-worth now above 1.8. That is excluding what my better half has in her own 401k. We are above 3. Thank God for America.❤
Amen, do we don’t need/want the left turning us into a communist country. God Bless America.
Yes they can… you have to want it😊
Yo, George! I appreciate videos like these man! 😎 Thanks a lot! Also, thanks to the team at Ramsey that helped you put it together.
God bless 🙏
High key love both of you and the content you guys do ❤❤❤
Humphrey B bear! Now I don’t have to like and subscribe….but I am already subscribed so I guess you still got me.
16:45 Americans also rely on social services to get them through retirement which puts a strain on the system for people who actually need it. People think the government will take care of them instead of themselves taking care of their families.
It’s not awarded on a needs basis but it should be” only” for those who paid in. My daughter was saying that she wanted to retire early- Unless you have something to keep you busy- Don’t do it! It’s boring
I feel that. Had my car for 18 years and counting. By far my biggest contributor to FI aside from my savings rate.
George, I learn and laugh so much with your content. This video by far has been my favorite. I love you pragmatist
Frowning on living at home post college is a largely American stigma. It's typically the norm among immigrant families especially if you're single at the time of graduation. As well as a lot of immigrants grow up in a multigenerational household, so your parents take care of you as long as needed and when the time comes when they need help you do the same ie your parents will live with you baring needing assisted care or something along those lines
I told my kids to stay home and save.
@@republicunited2183 My parents encouraged it as well since I work in IT and can work remotely. They just told me that I had to "pay" them ~1.5k a month that they would put into a bank account I can't touch and return it to me when I want to buy a house. So once I did buy a house I had the full 20% down payment and I was already conditioned to the expenses of a mortgage, utilities, etc
@@republicunited2183 My parents actively encouraged it seeing as I work in IT and work remotely. They just told me that I had to pay them ~1.5k a month which they would return to me once I decide to buy a house. Once I did choose to buy a house I had 35% of the house in cash so I put 20% down and the rest to furnish the house and an emergency fund. And since I was already paying a simulated mortgage I was already conditioned to the expenses that come with a household
It's also free daycare when you have kids lol.
Would be cool to see one of the 'everyday millionaires' that have called into the Ramsey show on one of these!
Big fan of this series! Keep it going!!
when you said you're paying with a debit card i marked my un-overdrafted debit card "my best friend :)" and my monzo "be careful - only use pots, not flex" with a sharpie...
edit - im using acetone remove the above mentioned from the un-overdrafted card to mark it "my 2nd best friend after ca$h :-/"
lol. i really appreciate you and im going to share your channel with my family. Love from Yorkshire, England.
I absolutely love your videos! You are the man!
Nice l enjoyed that video keep them coming 👏🏽👍🏽👊🏽
Loving this series ❤❤❤
Great conversation 😊
I would love to see Caleb Hammer on this show!
Hes afraid of flying
"flighing"
Lord save us..
@@MTKARusty sorry English is not my first lenguaje and I recognize it was terrible :)
Caleb’s net worth video at the end of 2022 said he was at about $250,000. He’s probably not quite there yet but well on the way.
Yessssssssss
Two brilliant money Men! Loving the show❤❤
Love to be apart of this channel! Keep it up
You should invite Anthony O’Neal for a coffee ride 😉
Frugal Fit Mom Christine would be awesome ❤❤❤
Definitely Ramit Sethi! Not sure if it would help out the channel or not, but I would like to hear his wealth building strategy and mindset thoughts.
Amazing channel 👍. My aunt passed and I inherited some of her portfolio and cash savings, I'm 28 with about 400k cash in savings and as usual everyone's preaching invest, so what stocks are a good long term buy, only major purchase I intend to make is buying a home in 5 years from my returns
Lucky you, I’d buy a lot of tech stocks and Dividend portfolios with that.
Don’t come to UA-cam looking for UA-cam advise, instead contact a fiduciary for proper guidance.
Same, I just use UA-cam for research purposes, I run all my major investment through an investment adviser, the market is just too unstable to handle things on your own.
How do I reach out to a financial advisor? my portfolio has been struggling since 2022 and I’ve been holding on by the skin of my teeth.
She's known as 'monicamary strigle. One of the finest portfolio managers in the field. She's widely recognized; you should take a look at her work.
Awesome episode. I had no idea on the savings rate. We are up to 20% and wish we had done that years ago. Also selling stuff we don't use and saving that money.
Elder millennial here and I've got 25 years at my company. You've got a ways to go on that longest career title George! 😅
You’re not a millennial then lol
@@taylor.g.deloyeolder millennials are now 43 years old 😱
Hows the baby George? Hope all is well in the Kamel house. God bless
I hope he has a good and blessed life.
Excellent vid. I've watched you both now for years. Swing for the fences get Jerry Seinfeld.
Living at home is a huge benefit if you can swing it. I lived at home after college and still do but plan to move out soon. Not having to pay massive rent allows for so much more flexibility in your budget. It helped me get debt free and kick off my investments. Do not be shamed into not living at home!
Love him! Great video. Thank you.❤
Love Humphrey Yang! 🎉
Humphrey- that same donut is my fave
George! Love your show and your advice. Maybe let the guest talk a bit more. 🫶🏻
Another example of why Dave's statement that "most millionaires don't inherit money" is misleading. If we all had financial literacy at a young age, a super high salary at a young age, and could stay at home until 34, we would all be millionaires. I literally had to teach my parents about credit and finance. Good for Yang, but it is what it is.
Absolutely. It usually takes a lot of privilege and good fortune that most people don't have.
Hard work is the key….not privilege or luck.
Inheriting vs Having Help are two different things. Inherit=Getting something. He didn’t inherit his Money. He worked for it. It’s no different than getting 5 different roommates to save money on expenses.
All of the above *CAN* help you get there faster and easier, but you can still get there all on your own.
If your parents don't want you living with them get a cheap place with a bunch of roommates there's always a solution if you look for it
This, nooo that.
George: OH, ok...
Humphrey is more disciplined than all those with credit cards
Although his paying them off every 3 days isn’t as good as keeping the funds in an interest-bearing account for 20-30 days before paying them off. It’s basically an interest-free loan from the credit card.
I know George had to be low-key mad that he added on the donut 🤣 9:16
George was eyeing Humphrey's donut hard at the 9:07 mark lol
Talk about decoy pricing ...here's an insider secret for you: At Hardee's the large and medium fry are THE SAME SIZE! Save your money and get the medium.
Love this series, keep it up!!
The expense tracker is really nice, I have been doing it for 9 years already. It helps a ton and it's fun
Since this is the first time I've seen Humphrey, could you fill us in on the expense tracker.
These 2 have no idea what FIRE really means. FIRE does not mean you do nothing getting bored because you are financially independent. That is totally wrong. FIRE means you now have a passive income that enables you to do things that you normally can’t do when you are actively working for a living. Whatever that “things” is, it’s up to you. You can focus on travel the world, or spend time with family, be a better parent, or work because you love the job without the care of how much you get paid. That’s what FIRE is about.
these 2 are just clueless in general
Love these segments with George!!! 😍
Love that he mentioned that he lived at home as an adult. Too many negative connotations about this. There’s a reason that homelessness does not exist in my country and we don’t send our elders into senior homes 😂
You could build a solid list of UA-cam finance bros to follow by just adding George’s millionaires in cars lineup. 💯
When Yang comes on George has no problem with credit cards and doesn’t press him but when Caleb Hammer comes on George takes the gloves off LOL
Nothing wrong with living at home. The problems come when you are not contributing to the family life. It seems most examples we hear of when we think of grown kids living at home are those who have done nothing with their lives and have no motivation to help their parents with living expenses, just being a leech. Clearly the guy in this video does not fall in that category.
At what point do you "splurge" on the nice hotel, the family vacation etc. I'm motivated to max my roth ira and do what's necessary to retire comfortable but I don't know how to build the wealth to help me live now until retirement day. Does anyone have a plan or type of acct you recommend to use to do this? Thanks
Haha love the graham shoutouts
I love the funny video clips. 😂
I’m a 26 y/o female and still live at home. I’m happy with it and my parents are happy with it as they worry about me. They would like me to have a stable relationship and marry before I leave the family home, so they know I’m looked after. I think it’s a culture thing. We have such a good relationship, I get to spend a lot of time with them (life is so short) and I save a lot of money. It a win all around. Besides, adulting (and paying rent) sucks! 😂
Ramit Sethi, next :)
Don’t like his cussing!
He seems like he has a chip on his shoulder… very angry for his age
I like this channel better than Ramsey because you have a variety of content and don’t teach a 12% withdraw rate.
I have a lot invested and saved and I can’t be like my financial advisor Dad. He’s always on his laptop desktop or laptop working in his 70’s. He is off when the markets are. But for me I will be going to the gym, pickleball, hockey podcasting, scouting hockey players, writing for a blog still.
We cant commit to one employer anymore because they won't give raises to market pay or invest in training. You have to learn something new and then move jobs to get your market value.
Here's my experience: It is easy to wear old shirts once you are rich. It's like badge of honor. It is also not a big deal to be poor when everyone else around you is poor. None of the people I know are dramatized over how poor we were. Many things Americans mention that they had to live without, we didn't even know existed. But that's the good thing I guess. We all make jokes about wholes in shoes, shoes too big growing up, but wouldn't be the funny if some of us had been rich.
I want to see some random "Baby Steps Millionaire".
Someone who has just gotten there and still can't quite believe it.
Hit 200k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 17k in last month 2024 Investing with Juliana Heidi
Honestly? I'm so excited. Juliana Heidi strategy has normalized winning trades for me also. and it's a huge milestone for me looking back to how it all started
The first time we had tried, we invested $5,000 and after a week we received $23,400. That really helped us a lot to pay our bills.
Most people are retiring this year and has nothing to show for. But I assure you it's never late to get your financial life together again.. All thanks to JuLiana for I and my family.🏝 🇺🇸
Wow wow please is there any way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my loan for a while now, please help me..
*SHE'S ON TELEGRAMS MOSTLY, USING THE USER NAME.*
Great episode!!!
When are you getting coffee with Caleb?
Caleb is too busy and doesn’t travel lol.
Homeboy is afraid of flying, right?
Ah yeah. It would be really nice to see him chill with George
Is Caleb a millionaire?
@@metaltera86 Most likely no.
Love this George!
I love Humphrey! Great collab ❤
Brian Preston or Bo! The Money Guy show cast would be great
Good news! They've already been on
I come from a long line of Humphreys!
Great interview.
Awesome segment
I pay my cards off every few days too. Maybe I'll be rich and riding in a car with George some day.
Yes, he is a fully grown man, but Yang is also an adorable piece of uncooked spaghetti and I fully want to shield him from the world.
😂
I didn't buy new dressy clothing for more than 6 years. I will buy some pieces by the end of the year. The funds will come from my clothing sinking fund. I want to build wealth.
Hubert Humphrey!!!! Sheesh!!!!
While I admire the saving habits, one of the sacrifices is a family with children. Especially if he were a woman, he would be nearing infertility.
He looks like a guy who would never marry or have 🧒 kids- money would be a priority
Good video
I would love to see you with Ramit Sethi but fundamentally the conversation may be an agreement to disagree and I’m not sure if that brings a lot of value to your channel but I would love to watch.
The always be buying approach is tried and true.
I have 5 more years til FI. I can’t wait!
Does he own a house or rent? He mentioned considering buying a house but not sure if he means primary residence or rental.
Still living with his parents at 34 and made no mention of having to pay rent.
I made the mistake of buying a brand new truck once. It got totaled a year later. Next truck was used and has been paid off for 6 years now.
We were "this" close 😂
Please have @HeidiSomers on your show! Her story is incredible! Alaskan girl, moved to Texas, started doing UA-cam videos for health and fitness and she's built an empire with no debt. She's also known as "Buff Bunny" and is the owner of "Buff Bunny Collection" for athletic clothing. AND is a woman of faith in Christ....
Humphrey Yang mentality is pretty much the same as older generation Asians and foreigners. They come here with nothing/little and make the best out of their opportunities.
I never looked at the prices for TVs at Costco. I do know that, if I leave my wife at home I’ll save about $200 at Costco every time.
Nice 🙄
😅
Caleb Hammer would be a great guest for this show. You would have to travel to him in Texas unless he drive to you because he doesn’t fly.
The sound effects 😂 💪🤜🤛20:29
This episode strikes my ego. I have twice the net worth of Humphrey and I was homeless at 15. If I had a loving family I could’ve lived with, my net worth would easily be double or triple what it is. If you’re living at home it’s a good thing, just don’t waste that time!
Don’t know if Hubert Humphrey (former US VP) counts