“The favored son of chaos all praise be given to him,from those that would not head our offer we praise those who do, that they may turn their gaze our way and gift us with the boon of pain, to turn the galaxy red with blood and feed the hunger of the gods” From the 341st estiple of the book of lorgar
All praise be unto him. For those that will not heed, we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the boon of pain, To turn the galaxy red with blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods…
@@yurisantos8730 he made the whole fking Word Bearer legion,billions of them and their Patriarch Lorgar,all of them had to kneel before him and his others legions and Patriarchs because they workship him as God, and he burnt every single souls living in theirs cities.This important event marked the beginning of the Horus Heresy as the Word Bearers is the First among Nine Legions betrayed the Emp and lead to the his death later on
Take me from my home, and I will sail to the stars of your empire. I will serve as a son must serve. But let Colchis stand as I have shaped it: a planet of peace and prosperity.
We have been forced to kneel, while innocent people burned in our great city. We have been following Emperor and where it lead us. Worst of all, I still hear their screams. I can't imagine face of my father. This is unforgivable, even for god.
You realise this would have been the capital city of Kuhr on Monarchia, not Colchis the Word Bearers homeworld, no Word bearer would have had a father here. Also the Ultramarines evacuated everyone from Kuhr before the glassed it, the book specifically details the forced evacuation of the city for a week, which means no one died. It was a symbolic gesture on the Emperor's part to show how pointless Lorgar's religious crusade had been, and he used a Legion with a strong reputation for conquering and civilising a large amount of worlds, the XIII Legion, Ultramarines. Guilliman regretted the gesture for decades after, but i can understand the Emperor's reasoning. The XIII and XVII are very alike in temperament and habits, both extremely organised. The difference is while the Ultramarines stayed for a minimum amount of time, leaving behind detached squads or companies to oversee the creation of self sustaining governments, infrastructure, defence, and economy that would benefit Ultramar and by extension the Imperium - the Word Bearers had entire war hosts remain behind on newly conquered worlds for months or years erecting monuments, temples and entire quarters of cities dedicated to the worship of the Emperor, while leaving most of the planet as backwards and uncivilised as it had been pre conquest. They claimed so few worlds that even the Salamanders, Space Wolves and White Scars who were the smallest Legions had more conquests than them!
@@greypilgrim228If you read the books, the razing of monarchia was brutal, people were "supposed" to be evacuated but most were not. Ultramarines cared not of the people and only the most wealthy escaped.
@@chameleo6735 That's bollocks and you know it,. Cyrene had nothing as a prostitute and the Ultramarines forced her along with everyone else to evacuate, rich, poor, everyone. There were riots that were put down forcibly at the point of a bolter and shots fired into the crowds (obviously who wouldn't object to being forced to leave at gun point, and what was done was horrible), but you cannot equate that somehow to all out murder of a city or god forbid an entire world as some stupid Word Bearers go on whinging about. The Ultramarines stayed for a whole week forcibly evacuating everyone before then putting to their Stormbirds and Thunderhawks and leaving for orbit. Cyrene even witnesses with hundreds of evacuees on a hill outside the city as the XIII glasses the city, the last time she ever saw anything before the light of it blinded her.
Mark Louis Spark was a god when he still did 40k, predating the Astartes series with honestly superior visual detail, shame that thanks to GW we'll never get to see the rest of the work he'd planned
@@iainrickwood2623 it was more the community I remember a lot of hate made him give give up after episode one. Long before the GW content thing happened
Lorgar went on beast mode after this humiliation and conquer more worlds than any of his brothers but just in the name of dark gods, all Big E had to do was to shift his son's believes and faith a bit and Horus Heresy wouldn't have happened
Really love the Word Bearers and their ultimate downfall which brought the Doom upon the Humanity. Despite my usual disgust for demon factions and stupid vilain motivations, this story made me start collecting them
And it's not like he was taking world after world realistically it wouldn't have had that much of an impact had the emperor just chose to do nothing but instead he created his biggest op for no reason
You know.....even if they didn’t fall to chaos I still think the wordbearers would have gotten their revenge The emperor had to have expected that at least
The Lords of Ruin are the true masters of the stars. Your false Emperor left you in a regime so cruel and unimaginable, he does not care for you. You are naught by a cog in the rusting machine of stagnation. Your mistakes are crimes, your curiosity is heresy, and your life is currency. The Primordial Beings love you for all your failings, inquiries, and your life is treasured. Come join the true rulers of the galaxy, Chaos will endure.
Lorgar? Absolutely, he had no illusion from the first moment he met a demon. Neither made the demon any attempt to hide its nature and Lorgar went full on ahead with it anyway even when the demon demanded he (Lorgar) sacrifice his sons. The fucker wanted this. #blamelorgar
Can we talk about how STUPID a move it was to burn Monarchia down, murder its civilians, and humiliate your most loyal subjects who happen to be super soldier demigods? Especially when you know actual gods exist?
Nobody was murdered, the rest of the planet and it's population literally still exists, the Ultramarines evacuated the city, go back and read the First Heretic.
The civilians were evacuated before the cities on the world were razed. Some few civilians however decided to stay and were destroyed with them. The ultramarines didn't just pull a world eaters.
I am no WH40k (or 30k as it stands here) loremaster, but from what I can read there was GOOD reason why the Emperor razed Monarchia to the ground. Ultramarines being an unfortunate tool in this destruction because they remained highly loyal (like the Word Bearers), but staying secular as decreed by the Emperor. I don't think the Emperor opposed people being moderately religious, just not treat HIM as the divinity, nor the Chaos gods. What the Word Bearers did was spread misinformation that they were indeed Angels of the Emperor (even if not by word, but by action). Meaning any conquest by other legions could then be seen as actions of a God that was vengeful, militaristic and utterly power hungry, when all he truly wanted was to unite all of humankind under a singular banner to fight off what would otherwise eventually destroy them all. The Word Bearers have good reason to be upset, offended and downright resentful.. but not to the degree they became. They became absolute monsters and showed the horrors of their capabilities.. and this is how the entire Galaxy would eventually come to see all of the Space Marines eventually if such an idea that they propegated would be allowed to fester. The Emperor is more or less a God, but he didn't create life as we know it. He has divine powers, but not that of a God. He is a souped up Psycher. Mankinds ultimate entity. Word Bearers wanted this to be revered. They would eventually have clashed *hard* with the other Legions when these warriors would be seen as "Not faithful enough". The damage the Word Bearers could have caused could number in the billions and trillions.. which I suppose they did anyway. However at least the Imperium and Emperor tried to stop it. I kind of like the religious aspect to WH40k though, but it seems to border on devotion to an entity they KNOW exists more so than belief. The Word Bearers seemed to worship the Emperor as both an unseen God while at the same time a seen one. There's a difference between belief and KNOWING. The Word Bearers did both. They knew the Emperor existed and they believed he was a God. If not THE God. A dangerous mix, because that means they are zealots. You can see the Inquisition here in 40k -- just imagine each Inquisitor and the team around him/her being a superhuman soldier. Exterminatus and conquest both at the same time, by the same group with no one to oppose them.
So, for context, Big E wanted religion eradicated. The word bearer's went against this because Lorgar thought Big E was testing them and he was an actual god. Then, as depicted in the video they were forced to kneel, and watch as "Monarchia", the perfect city in Lorgar and his legions eyes(basically a giant city dedicated to the worship of Big E) was burned to the ground and the 500 worlds they had "taught"(by killing all who opposed) the religion that worshipped big E were all purged. The ultramarines ended up being the tool that big E used to accomplish this. Afterwards, Lorgar was corrupted by some of his men who gave him a god (4 to be exact) to worship. He ended up corrupting the other traitor legions(including Horus himself). The video is depicting the Word Bearers attempting to shit on the smurfs in revenge.
The emperor didn’t even really try a “hey, can you chill out a bit” approach and he went straight for “burn the fucking planet” Even without chaos the ultramarines would be dealing with some severe amounts of revenge from the wordbearers
" I don't think the Emperor opposed people being moderately religious," aaaaaaand that's where you're wrong kiddo. Look up & watch "The last Church" (you'll like it) It explains Emps view on this topic far better than i could in a few short sentences.
@@barklordofthesith2997 Maybe he was a tinge bit more opposed than I gave him credit for, but he strikes me as having tolerated it on a minor scale. Given that he permitted Word Bearers to keep doing their thing for many years before saying enough was enough, I was always under the impression that while he hated organized religion, he permitted small, rather unorganized ones to exist. The secular kind.
@@Catonzo bringing Monarchia to rubble directly in front of the word Bearers as he (Emps) forced them to kneel before him speaks volumes. During the unification wars he razed Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples to the ground. He actively by force of bolter stamped out the existence of religious activity everywhere he could with the exception of where the practitioners directly benefited his war efforts (Mars for example) Even post entombment on the Golden Throne, the Inquisition if i am not mistaken will possibly exterminatus a whole planet if they discover a large amount of Chaos worshippers on it. I'd say that it's more than a "tinge bit"
One of the Emperor's greatest failures was how he handled the Word Bearers. "We're in the middle of one of the greatest crusades humanity has ever known, HEY! I have an idea, let me drive a wedge in my fucking forces pitting my favorite pawns against my least favorite instead of beating their father to a pulp in front of them myself or turning his sons against him!" I'm no heretic, but I get the frustration, he may be the pinnacle of humanity, but the Emperor can still be a gigantic idiot as well. He's still got that human in him.
Yeah have to agree. For one who was all knowing and far seeing, his abasement of the word bearers was just not smart. The public humiliation was unnecessary. He could have achieved a better outcomes had he not sent the sigilite and just quietly pulled lorgar aside himself for a talk. And Argel Tal's subsequent corruption was so terrible and sad. He was not only staunch but had a compassion for people's lives not often seen. Edit - grammar
Sorry for the late replay. It's called "Cinematic Orchestral beat - 'Glory' " It's the first result on youtube if you type that in. I lowered the pitch on it for this video though. Thought it gave a darker theme.
The Emperor is forcing them to kneel by locking their muscles into place so some of them have spasms and others are trying to resist cause it causes them great shame,you indeed spotted that right.
Несущие слово: заблудились со своими словами,заигрались ьакчио забыли пописные истины Императора человечества,за жто они понесут наказание дело Императора человечества,не будет остановливаться ни при каких условиях! Да воссияет свет Императора человечестве и узрят сбившиеся с направления деятельности своей,все его дети.
Idc who you are, what you think, what faction you like, loyalist or traitor, you are simply lying to yourself if you don’t believe that Lorgar was right.
Well he wasn't right to worship his father even after emp told him not to. And emperor wasn't right to do a fucking genocide to a city lorgar loved and cared and then tell them he's not God in the worst way possible. The heresy would have been avoided he just fucking showed some love to his son and not as a tool. Emperor was a massive dick and deserved all that came for him.
@@youdontknowme2913 Lorgar WAS right to worship the emperor. The dude is clearly a God. Imagine being told by a being to not worship them while they are also doing everything in their power to appear as and act as a god and who is in fact a god. It makes no sense. And now pretty much the entirety of the Imperium worships him as the God-Emperor. Not only was Lorgar right, Lorgar won.
@@TheSascatch "God" is matter of definition/perspective. It's just a word after all. Neither the chaos gods nor the emperor were ever truly omnipotent or anything close to that. Thinking something is a "god" only because it's greater than yourself shows some level of naivity. And Lorgar ignoring the emperor warnings for decades, despite him pretty clear about the matter from the start. Like the message is everywhere and even when you have the opinion it taste bad, you are an idiot if you act against it and think there would be no repercussion. But Lorgar seemingly didn't expect an answer to him ignoring the foundation of the imperium and even after dangerous signs rose up everywhere he still keeps his worship up. Then the emperor handled his answer poorly, sure, but what does Lorgar do? Take the worst conclusions and making the worst of it in general. So much about his oh so divine god thingy huh. One thing his god does what he doesn't like and he shits on him in worst possible way. Makes you wonder if there was any loyality to his own words at all. Truth is Lorgar is a great liar and contradicts himself in equal fashion to the emperor. Like didn't he critize this exact thing by the emperor? That he is a hypocrite? Lorgar does exactly the same thing himself with betraying the emperor!
It's from the 2nd trailer of Mark Louis Spark's "Death of Hope". The lady talking is Cyrene Valantion the Blessed Lady of the Word Bearer's legion. Sort of Argel Tal's girlfriend/etc.
Mark Louis Spark's CGI fan video "Death of Hope". I took these clips from the two trailers and from the part 1 "Anarchy Reigns". I referenced it in my comment, but I probably should have left a link. You can just search Death of Hope and find it probably.
Sort of, but I believe Mark stopped because it was getting too stressful to continue along with his full-time job. It's still on UA-cam. Just search "Death of Hope" and the trailers and part one "Anarchy Reigns" should be there.
To be honest i think some of the legions were manipulated by the " high lords pf terra" i think if the emperor had gathered his sons and told the. Straight out ablut his mission and his plans and. What he expects that maybe the wordbearers might never have become heretics and then the other legions wouldnt fall as well but as i said itz just my opinion im a blood angel all the way family first before the empire is my concern an empire can be rebuilt a family not so much
@@Buhlmanzky do they have more cult world's than Marines? Do you expect that they are hundreds thousands after internal purges, been kicked in the ass in the Crusade and hunted down like cattle in the Great Scouring, forces into hiding and with no resources to replenish ranks? Don't tell "Fabius Bile", 'cause he's a madman making more harm than good. Truth is the Word Bearers are few and scattered in fewer warbands leading some sparse cults in distant backwater worlds, with a scared Primarch still hiding because he knows that Guilliman is still wanting to finish the job he started and fullfil his promise to gut him for good, like a fish. The Avenging Sons don't forget.
@@_A.d.G_ Dude what are you smoking ? The Word Bearers are the second most powerful traitor legion after the Black Legion,they kept their structure intact and have thousands of cults on hundreds of worlds,they have their own Forge Worlds,entire Imperial Guard Regiments and Titan Legions at their command,the Word Bearers dont just conquer,they enslave,every planet taken by them is a converted planet with millions of new chaos followers,and how Guiliman is now he would not stand a chance against Lorgar,they were even on Nuceria just because Lorgar had no psychic power anymore because he just cast the Ruinstorm,otherwise Guiliman would have died in that fight.I admit the Ultramarines are powerful but the Word Bearers as they are now are only beaten by the Black Legion in terms of military might and numbers,but they are still the most dangerous because they dont just destroy,the spread the word of Chaos,and so entire planets are lost in mind and heart to chaos,besides Guiliman at the moment is reading the Lectitio Divinitatus,Lorgars book,and is beginning to understand what Lorgar is all about,he and his Ultramarines brought Calth and everything after that on themselves with their attitude towards the Word Bearers.
@@Buhlmanzky it isn't me smoking, just the deluded cheap authors GW hires. Those capable of writing that the Space Wolves CHAPTER (not the Legion) is composed of MILLIONS Marines. The ones that can't realise the hair colour of Sanguineous nor the Company of Saul Tarvitz. The ones that on the book "Fulgrin" clearly wrote down that the combined strength of SEVEN Legions locked in combat in the Urgall Plateau on Istvaan V was 60,000 Astartes (less than 10,000 each) and elsewhere wrote that each Legion was HUNDREDS THOUSANDS Astartes. If you are an intelligent person, and can put together lore, logics and common sense, you know where the answers lie. Just a final question: if the Ultramarines were largely unscathed in the Heresy, thus played a key role in the Great Scouring (official lore), then what happened on Calth, and above all, why did the spawn just 23 Chapters of more or less1,000 Marines each?
@@Buhlmanzky "Would not stand a chance against Lorgar" - the same Lorgar, whos ass was handed to him by Corvus? The Lorgar who is know hiding or "meditating" from the said beatdown?
Mark Louis Spark's Death of Hope. Look up his channel, subscribe and support him! He is an awesome, superheated artist...WH40k Fans' Godling, the Second!
@@ClovenOnes legions were not created equal, each of them had their own purpose in grand visions of the Emperor. That's why Horus and Lorgar were so afraid to engage certain loyalist legions and that's why Emperor didn't trust every single one of his "childs" the same way he trusted Russ or the Lion.
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“do not turn away from the truth just because it scares you”
I do not turn away. My very name is pain to the demon. My will unbreakable. My mind a weapon. I am the End.
Faith, hate, vengeance and truth; these are our tenets. Embrace them
Мы Русские. С нами Бог.
@user-ho1sd9jk7u *Thousand Sons player sees the russian guy* "Damn it!" *summons a great unclean one on his nose*
@@fergtfergtfergtAny gods abandoned you long ago,lmao.
“From the fires of betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word.”
BY THE BLOOD OF SANGUINIUS AND THE EMPEROR I WILL PURIFY YOU IN THE EMPEROR'S WRATH COUSIN
Glory to the Dark Gods
You are no longer a friend then.. the blazing merciful punishment of Vulkan will be bestowed upon you.
“The favored son of chaos all praise be given to him,from those that would not head our offer we praise those who do, that they may turn their gaze our way and gift us with the boon of pain, to turn the galaxy red with blood and feed the hunger of the gods”
From the 341st estiple of the book of lorgar
All praise be unto him. For those that will not heed, we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the boon of pain, To turn the galaxy red with blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods…
"Always speak the truth even if your voice shakes."
Just imagine how disapponted in the black templars emps would be if he saw them now. All the word bearers wanted to do was praise the emps.
The Emperor failed them, there are many ways to scold his son but he just had to pick the worst one.
@@amazingle7431 failed what or who? I want to know it I love the lore of WH40k.
@@yurisantos8730 he made the whole fking Word Bearer legion,billions of them and their Patriarch Lorgar,all of them had to kneel before him and his others legions and Patriarchs because they workship him as God, and he burnt every single souls living in theirs cities.This important event marked the beginning of the Horus Heresy as the Word Bearers is the First among Nine Legions betrayed the Emp and lead to the his death later on
@@amazingle7431 because the emperor is a false god, and there is some god that are more powerful than him? Like the chaos god or demon god?
No its not about true or false, its just the Emperor forbid all kinds of workshipping any gods and demons so that mean it also apply for himself.
Take me from my home, and I will sail to the stars of your empire. I will serve as a son must serve. But let Colchis stand as I have shaped it: a planet of peace and prosperity.
Did the Khan really say that?
@@terminallove3531 No, Lorgar did.
@@stevepalpatine2828
Ah, I confused Chogoris with Colghis.
But let Monarchia stand as I have shaped it: A planet of peace and faith...
"God was real, and he hated us" That's some powerful wording there.
Average "Calth was an Act of self defense" enjoyers.
afteract
Legiones Basedartes
We have been forced to kneel, while innocent people burned in our great city. We have been following Emperor and where it lead us. Worst of all, I still hear their screams. I can't imagine face of my father. This is unforgivable, even for god.
You realise this would have been the capital city of Kuhr on Monarchia, not Colchis the Word Bearers homeworld, no Word bearer would have had a father here. Also the Ultramarines evacuated everyone from Kuhr before the glassed it, the book specifically details the forced evacuation of the city for a week, which means no one died. It was a symbolic gesture on the Emperor's part to show how pointless Lorgar's religious crusade had been, and he used a Legion with a strong reputation for conquering and civilising a large amount of worlds, the XIII Legion, Ultramarines.
Guilliman regretted the gesture for decades after, but i can understand the Emperor's reasoning. The XIII and XVII are very alike in temperament and habits, both extremely organised. The difference is while the Ultramarines stayed for a minimum amount of time, leaving behind detached squads or companies to oversee the creation of self sustaining governments, infrastructure, defence, and economy that would benefit Ultramar and by extension the Imperium - the Word Bearers had entire war hosts remain behind on newly conquered worlds for months or years erecting monuments, temples and entire quarters of cities dedicated to the worship of the Emperor, while leaving most of the planet as backwards and uncivilised as it had been pre conquest. They claimed so few worlds that even the Salamanders, Space Wolves and White Scars who were the smallest Legions had more conquests than them!
@@greypilgrim228 Yes I do... But then... My Word Bearer hears voices in his head.
@@greypilgrim228If you read the books, the razing of monarchia was brutal, people were "supposed" to be evacuated but most were not. Ultramarines cared not of the people and only the most wealthy escaped.
@@chameleo6735 That's bollocks and you know it,. Cyrene had nothing as a prostitute and the Ultramarines forced her along with everyone else to evacuate, rich, poor, everyone. There were riots that were put down forcibly at the point of a bolter and shots fired into the crowds (obviously who wouldn't object to being forced to leave at gun point, and what was done was horrible), but you cannot equate that somehow to all out murder of a city or god forbid an entire world as some stupid Word Bearers go on whinging about.
The Ultramarines stayed for a whole week forcibly evacuating everyone before then putting to their Stormbirds and Thunderhawks and leaving for orbit.
Cyrene even witnesses with hundreds of evacuees on a hill outside the city as the XIII glasses the city, the last time she ever saw anything before the light of it blinded her.
Ultramarines suck aswell as the stupid emperor
I'm really impressed with the armor design and the quote 'for the 500 worlds', the armors are surprisingly beautiful
Mark Louis Spark was a god when he still did 40k, predating the Astartes series with honestly superior visual detail, shame that thanks to GW we'll never get to see the rest of the work he'd planned
@@iainrickwood2623 it was more the community I remember a lot of hate made him give give up after episode one. Long before the GW content thing happened
@@hextread9459 There wasn't very much hate, it's just that those voices were louder
I love the Chad walk the word bearer does
That Sigma Male stride was nothing short of impressive.
Lorgar went on beast mode after this humiliation and conquer more worlds than any of his brothers but just in the name of dark gods, all Big E had to do was to shift his son's believes and faith a bit and Horus Heresy wouldn't have happened
'God was real...And he hated us...'
So we went back to Odin and drinking horns , SKÅÅÅÅÅL ❤️😄🍻🍺🍻🍺
Really love the Word Bearers and their ultimate downfall which brought the Doom upon the Humanity. Despite my usual disgust for demon factions and stupid vilain motivations, this story made me start collecting them
Totally agree. So tragic
They never fell, they found the truth
@@thisismiee Emperor also did, the thing here is what path they chose after
Гибель для всех не может быть восхитительной?!?
“They *RAZED* Monarchia to the ground”
Fixed it for you.
I see the gwammar nazi is present
In the name of Gramma, corrections shall be made.
grammar loyalist
They didnt do shit. It was HIM
The most exciting front line assault music I love it.
Literally all the emp had to do was just let my man lorgs fanboy him and it all could have been avoided
And it's not like he was taking world after world realistically it wouldn't have had that much of an impact had the emperor just chose to do nothing but instead he created his biggest op for no reason
DAAAAAMN THAT WAS GOOD !!
This guy does absolutely amazing works!
Man the psychic power to make them all kneel in shame!
For the dark gods.
The corpse emperor will pay for his betrayal!
The Dark gods are using you, the Emperor never betrayed you.
@@Super50ldier That's the Biggest lie I've ever seen
@@ClovenOnes You heretic by the might of the God Emperor, you shall be PURGED!!
The more I start to understand the traitors reasons for betraying the God Emperor, the more I begin to understand and sympathize with them.
*"I AM NOT GOD LORGAR! YOU ARE NOT MY PRIEST!"*
A great faction
The word bearers are so utterly evil, I love it
You know.....even if they didn’t fall to chaos I still think the wordbearers would have gotten their revenge
The emperor had to have expected that at least
The Lords of Ruin are the true masters of the stars. Your false Emperor left you in a regime so cruel and unimaginable, he does not care for you. You are naught by a cog in the rusting machine of stagnation. Your mistakes are crimes, your curiosity is heresy, and your life is currency. The Primordial Beings love you for all your failings, inquiries, and your life is treasured.
Come join the true rulers of the galaxy,
Chaos will endure.
Your dark gods toy with you, use you and blind you. The Emperor guides us no matter the cost! Cadia Stands!!
You'z a gretchin git
Observes in Xenos
The man who has nothing, can still have faith.
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR, ALL HAIL THE RUINOUS POWERS!!!
yay! u are Back
all of this just becurse emps skipped "parenting 101" class
That would be single best visual media on WH if Mark Spark didn't cancel it.
CGI, Animation is awesome
I wonder, if the pre heresy Lorgar and the Word bearers new what they would become, how would they react?
Lorgar? Absolutely, he had no illusion from the first moment he met a demon. Neither made the demon any attempt to hide its nature and Lorgar went full on ahead with it anyway even when the demon demanded he (Lorgar) sacrifice his sons. The fucker wanted this.
#blamelorgar
@@DeHerg Terrible take(and not true at all), but at this point I'm not surprised
@@ClovenOnes It's in the first heretic, black on white.
@@DeHerg It is, but what you said is wrong
@@ClovenOnes no it's not
MEGA COOL😊😊 I LOVE THE HORUS HERESY😊😊😊😊!!!!!
Это великолепно аж но мурашки по всему телу пробегают !
Согласен в 2022
Ultramarine and decendant chapters, still the strongest , hail guillemen
Pawns in my plans nothing more
Just imagine how Goodwin would be disappointed with the GW and what it made to his legacy now
Can we talk about how STUPID a move it was to burn Monarchia down, murder its civilians, and humiliate your most loyal subjects who happen to be super soldier demigods? Especially when you know actual gods exist?
Nobody was murdered, the rest of the planet and it's population literally still exists, the Ultramarines evacuated the city, go back and read the First Heretic.
The civilians were evacuated before the cities on the world were razed. Some few civilians however decided to stay and were destroyed with them.
The ultramarines didn't just pull a world eaters.
They raised monarchia down
Humble our legion
This is ... vendetta! - The Baron Harkonnen
WOW, fantastisch...
Emperor, what have you done...
The one talking to the Ultramarine is that Lorgar cause he has a spike mace just like his?
I am no WH40k (or 30k as it stands here) loremaster, but from what I can read there was GOOD reason why the Emperor razed Monarchia to the ground. Ultramarines being an unfortunate tool in this destruction because they remained highly loyal (like the Word Bearers), but staying secular as decreed by the Emperor. I don't think the Emperor opposed people being moderately religious, just not treat HIM as the divinity, nor the Chaos gods. What the Word Bearers did was spread misinformation that they were indeed Angels of the Emperor (even if not by word, but by action). Meaning any conquest by other legions could then be seen as actions of a God that was vengeful, militaristic and utterly power hungry, when all he truly wanted was to unite all of humankind under a singular banner to fight off what would otherwise eventually destroy them all.
The Word Bearers have good reason to be upset, offended and downright resentful.. but not to the degree they became. They became absolute monsters and showed the horrors of their capabilities.. and this is how the entire Galaxy would eventually come to see all of the Space Marines eventually if such an idea that they propegated would be allowed to fester. The Emperor is more or less a God, but he didn't create life as we know it. He has divine powers, but not that of a God. He is a souped up Psycher. Mankinds ultimate entity. Word Bearers wanted this to be revered. They would eventually have clashed *hard* with the other Legions when these warriors would be seen as "Not faithful enough". The damage the Word Bearers could have caused could number in the billions and trillions.. which I suppose they did anyway. However at least the Imperium and Emperor tried to stop it.
I kind of like the religious aspect to WH40k though, but it seems to border on devotion to an entity they KNOW exists more so than belief. The Word Bearers seemed to worship the Emperor as both an unseen God while at the same time a seen one. There's a difference between belief and KNOWING. The Word Bearers did both. They knew the Emperor existed and they believed he was a God. If not THE God. A dangerous mix, because that means they are zealots. You can see the Inquisition here in 40k -- just imagine each Inquisitor and the team around him/her being a superhuman soldier. Exterminatus and conquest both at the same time, by the same group with no one to oppose them.
So, for context, Big E wanted religion eradicated. The word bearer's went against this because Lorgar thought Big E was testing them and he was an actual god. Then, as depicted in the video they were forced to kneel, and watch as "Monarchia", the perfect city in Lorgar and his legions eyes(basically a giant city dedicated to the worship of Big E) was burned to the ground and the 500 worlds they had "taught"(by killing all who opposed) the religion that worshipped big E were all purged. The ultramarines ended up being the tool that big E used to accomplish this. Afterwards, Lorgar was corrupted by some of his men who gave him a god (4 to be exact) to worship. He ended up corrupting the other traitor legions(including Horus himself). The video is depicting the Word Bearers attempting to shit on the smurfs in revenge.
The emperor didn’t even really try a “hey, can you chill out a bit” approach and he went straight for “burn the fucking planet”
Even without chaos the ultramarines would be dealing with some severe amounts of revenge from the wordbearers
" I don't think the Emperor opposed people being moderately religious,"
aaaaaaand that's where you're wrong kiddo.
Look up & watch "The last Church" (you'll like it)
It explains Emps view on this topic far better than i could in a few short sentences.
@@barklordofthesith2997 Maybe he was a tinge bit more opposed than I gave him credit for, but he strikes me as having tolerated it on a minor scale. Given that he permitted Word Bearers to keep doing their thing for many years before saying enough was enough, I was always under the impression that while he hated organized religion, he permitted small, rather unorganized ones to exist. The secular kind.
@@Catonzo bringing Monarchia to rubble directly in front of the word Bearers as he (Emps) forced them to kneel before him speaks volumes. During the unification wars he razed Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples to the ground. He actively by force of bolter stamped out the existence of religious activity everywhere he could with the exception of where the practitioners directly benefited his war efforts (Mars for example) Even post entombment on the Golden Throne, the Inquisition if i am not mistaken will possibly exterminatus a whole planet if they discover a large amount of Chaos worshippers on it.
I'd say that it's more than a "tinge bit"
This is great, goes to show how dumb Ultramarines are for trusting the False Emperor, and how the truth is just chaos itself.
Does Someones knows what software Mark Louis use to model and render this animation ?
human 1.0
Неси слово Императора, до края Вселенной! Но не забудь хорошенько зарядить болтер!
One of the Emperor's greatest failures was how he handled the Word Bearers. "We're in the middle of one of the greatest crusades humanity has ever known, HEY! I have an idea, let me drive a wedge in my fucking forces pitting my favorite pawns against my least favorite instead of beating their father to a pulp in front of them myself or turning his sons against him!" I'm no heretic, but I get the frustration, he may be the pinnacle of humanity, but the Emperor can still be a gigantic idiot as well. He's still got that human in him.
Yeah have to agree. For one who was all knowing and far seeing, his abasement of the word bearers was just not smart. The public humiliation was unnecessary. He could have achieved a better outcomes had he not sent the sigilite and just quietly pulled lorgar aside himself for a talk. And Argel Tal's subsequent corruption was so terrible and sad. He was not only staunch but had a compassion for people's lives not often seen.
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Tell me father, was the prosecution of whole monarchia necessary just for u to tell them " I am not a God" - probably magnus
He is the BIG E so you can't argue with that
Those dudes are main. Hate it or love it, but they are messiah of warhammer
background music please
I'm no God! Kneel
Imagine you and your entire legion getting reemed by some angry emo dude
Most epic video all time 🤯🤯💪💪💪💪💪
Damn that traitor erebus
Someone said " if I was in a room with horus and erebus and I only had 2 bullets, I would shoot erebus twice" lmao
@@johnwhitfield3547 I would do the same lmao
Could you give a link for the song please? I can't find this version of it on UA-cam
Sorry for the late replay. It's called "Cinematic Orchestral beat - 'Glory' " It's the first result on youtube if you type that in. I lowered the pitch on it for this video though. Thought it gave a darker theme.
The heroes daddies of black Templars
Guys ,witch warhammer 40k animation, movie or game is this ? I want to watch this fully
Look up "Death of hope part 1: anarchy reigns"
Argel Tal, was that you? (Anime kissy faces and hearts)
Thats all emperors fault. He could have been a good dad and teach lorgar
nice video but i just have to ask who is the dude mounted up the wall ?
why they kneeling down in the beginning ? they also look try to resist it
The Emperor is forcing them to kneel by locking their muscles into place so some of them have spasms and others are trying to resist cause it causes them great shame,you indeed spotted that right.
@@Buhlmanzky oh yeah,was the one with centurion helmet lorgar ?
@@John_winston Thats Argel Tal i believe
@@Buhlmanzky That's Nakal. I voiced him.
2:03 damn he spin the crap out of those civilian
WHAT...IS...THIS...HEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEESYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!.......................
Damn word eaters
Is it the full video ?
Damn you Erebus
The Ultramarines deserved Calth.
Несущие слово: заблудились со своими словами,заигрались ьакчио забыли пописные истины Императора человечества,за жто они понесут наказание дело Императора человечества,не будет остановливаться ни при каких условиях!
Да воссияет свет Императора человечестве и узрят сбившиеся с направления деятельности своей,все его дети.
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....Und GOTT war real......
Idc who you are, what you think, what faction you like, loyalist or traitor, you are simply lying to yourself if you don’t believe that Lorgar was right.
Well he wasn't right to worship his father even after emp told him not to.
And emperor wasn't right to do a fucking genocide to a city lorgar loved and cared and then tell them he's not God in the worst way possible.
The heresy would have been avoided he just fucking showed some love to his son and not as a tool.
Emperor was a massive dick and deserved all that came for him.
@@youdontknowme2913 Lorgar WAS right to worship the emperor. The dude is clearly a God. Imagine being told by a being to not worship them while they are also doing everything in their power to appear as and act as a god and who is in fact a god. It makes no sense. And now pretty much the entirety of the Imperium worships him as the God-Emperor. Not only was Lorgar right, Lorgar won.
@@TheSascatch true that
@@TheSascatch
"God" is matter of definition/perspective. It's just a word after all.
Neither the chaos gods nor the emperor were ever truly omnipotent or anything close to that.
Thinking something is a "god" only because it's greater than yourself shows some level of naivity.
And Lorgar ignoring the emperor warnings for decades, despite him pretty clear about the matter from the start. Like the message is everywhere and even when you have the opinion it taste bad, you are an idiot if you act against it and think there would be no repercussion.
But Lorgar seemingly didn't expect an answer to him ignoring the foundation of the imperium and even after dangerous signs rose up everywhere he still keeps his worship up.
Then the emperor handled his answer poorly, sure, but what does Lorgar do? Take the worst conclusions and making the worst of it in general. So much about his oh so divine god thingy huh. One thing his god does what he doesn't like and he shits on him in worst possible way.
Makes you wonder if there was any loyality to his own words at all.
Truth is Lorgar is a great liar and contradicts himself in equal fashion to the emperor.
Like didn't he critize this exact thing by the emperor? That he is a hypocrite?
Lorgar does exactly the same thing himself with betraying the emperor!
@@Raffney Lorgar was right.
What is the kneeling bit from? Looked like a video game.
Death of Hope,its in one of the trailers,you can find it on UA-cam.
It's from the 2nd trailer of Mark Louis Spark's "Death of Hope". The lady talking is Cyrene Valantion the Blessed Lady of the Word Bearer's legion. Sort of Argel Tal's girlfriend/etc.
I feel like the emperor could have done a better job at showing his son why monarchia was wrong.
Where is the original video from?
Mark Louis Spark's CGI fan video "Death of Hope". I took these clips from the two trailers and from the part 1 "Anarchy Reigns". I referenced it in my comment, but I probably should have left a link. You can just search Death of Hope and find it probably.
raised or razed??????
Lorgar, the start of everything, the liar, the traitor.
is Death of Hope a real fan art movie?
Yes
@@ishgocholde4024 where can i see it and how long is this fan made movie
@@pranjalshukla8096 You can only see some trailers and the first part for now, on youtube !
Sort of, but I believe Mark stopped because it was getting too stressful to continue along with his full-time job. It's still on UA-cam. Just search "Death of Hope" and the trailers and part one "Anarchy Reigns" should be there.
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To be honest i think some of the legions were manipulated by the " high lords pf terra" i think if the emperor had gathered his sons and told the. Straight out ablut his mission and his plans and. What he expects that maybe the wordbearers might never have become heretics and then the other legions wouldnt fall as well but as i said itz just my opinion im a blood angel all the way family first before the empire is my concern an empire can be rebuilt a family not so much
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Trash legion - Ultramarines
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Greetings from Colchis.
An Ultramarine.
One of like a few thousand Cult worlds the Word Bearers have,how awful.
@@Buhlmanzky do they have more cult world's than Marines? Do you expect that they are hundreds thousands after internal purges, been kicked in the ass in the Crusade and hunted down like cattle in the Great Scouring, forces into hiding and with no resources to replenish ranks?
Don't tell "Fabius Bile", 'cause he's a madman making more harm than good.
Truth is the Word Bearers are few and scattered in fewer warbands leading some sparse cults in distant backwater worlds, with a scared Primarch still hiding because he knows that Guilliman is still wanting to finish the job he started and fullfil his promise to gut him for good, like a fish.
The Avenging Sons don't forget.
@@_A.d.G_ Dude what are you smoking ? The Word Bearers are the second most powerful traitor legion after the Black Legion,they kept their structure intact and have thousands of cults on hundreds of worlds,they have their own Forge Worlds,entire Imperial Guard Regiments and Titan Legions at their command,the Word Bearers dont just conquer,they enslave,every planet taken by them is a converted planet with millions of new chaos followers,and how Guiliman is now he would not stand a chance against Lorgar,they were even on Nuceria just because Lorgar had no psychic power anymore because he just cast the Ruinstorm,otherwise Guiliman would have died in that fight.I admit the Ultramarines are powerful but the Word Bearers as they are now are only beaten by the Black Legion in terms of military might and numbers,but they are still the most dangerous because they dont just destroy,the spread the word of Chaos,and so entire planets are lost in mind and heart to chaos,besides Guiliman at the moment is reading the Lectitio Divinitatus,Lorgars book,and is beginning to understand what Lorgar is all about,he and his Ultramarines brought Calth and everything after that on themselves with their attitude towards the Word Bearers.
@@Buhlmanzky it isn't me smoking, just the deluded cheap authors GW hires. Those capable of writing that the Space Wolves CHAPTER (not the Legion) is composed of MILLIONS Marines. The ones that can't realise the hair colour of Sanguineous nor the Company of Saul Tarvitz. The ones that on the book "Fulgrin" clearly wrote down that the combined strength of SEVEN Legions locked in combat in the Urgall Plateau on Istvaan V was 60,000 Astartes (less than 10,000 each) and elsewhere wrote that each Legion was HUNDREDS THOUSANDS Astartes.
If you are an intelligent person, and can put together lore, logics and common sense, you know where the answers lie.
Just a final question: if the Ultramarines were largely unscathed in the Heresy, thus played a key role in the Great Scouring (official lore), then what happened on Calth, and above all, why did the spawn just 23 Chapters of more or less1,000 Marines each?
@@Buhlmanzky "Would not stand a chance against Lorgar" - the same Lorgar, whos ass was handed to him by Corvus? The Lorgar who is know hiding or "meditating" from the said beatdown?
Grey knights purge.
Como me encantaría que exista esto si el exterminio empieza comenzaría con mi país primero hasta de voluntario.
What is this from?
Death of hope
Mark Louis Spark's Death of Hope. Look up his channel, subscribe and support him! He is an awesome, superheated artist...WH40k Fans' Godling, the Second!
based on the events in the novel The first heretic
No wonder the Bearers ended up in this mess, they are the most gullible legion
No legion is more gullible than the other
@@ClovenOnes legions were not created equal, each of them had their own purpose in grand visions of the Emperor. That's why Horus and Lorgar were so afraid to engage certain loyalist legions and that's why Emperor didn't trust every single one of his "childs" the same way he trusted Russ or the Lion.
"Destroy the geller field generator. That's an order" Ummmm say WHAT now?!??
there is no god
I saw this animation made ni sense but loves it nontheless
shouldve sampled a real hammer strike, more iron, this sounds too weak and brittle