Uptie 4 Value Tier List: Pre Season 3 Edition [Limbus Company]

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @therealESGOO
    @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +84

    ua-cam.com/video/WwfJGpl9ifo/v-deo.html
    The first video, in case you missed it.
    And remember, these are just my opinions, thinking for yourself and uptying the IDs you like is genuinely the most important thing.
    Enjoy Canto 5 y'all.

    • @AWrySmile
      @AWrySmile 10 місяців тому +1

      Great video as always!
      This is a great reference point for new players. Maybe you will be the Patron Saint of New Limbus Players!
      Anyway, hope you have a good Season 3!

    • @Effloresced...
      @Effloresced... 10 місяців тому

      With the release of canto 5, what tier would Ryoshu and Gregor be in?

    • @redcobra9588
      @redcobra9588 5 місяців тому

      bro can you make tierlist that very focus only for mirror dungeons meta ? not story not event just mirror dungeons specially fighting all kind of abnormality.

  • @terit3747
    @terit3747 10 місяців тому +235

    Wow! I can't wait to watch this video 2.6 times until Canto 5 comes out!

  • @lithreeum
    @lithreeum 10 місяців тому +12

    Despite being a true rupture believer, or rather BECAUSE I am a true rupture believer, I'm going to have to disagree on your assessment of Talisman Sinclair. Why? Because you didn't take into account his god awful fucking passive. Which reads:
    3 Glut Res: On hit, if the target had rupture, gain 1 talisman.
    I trust you have enough pattern recognitions here to connect A to B, but I'll say it out loud anyways. If you use his S2 alongside 3 gluttony skills, his talisman pops immediately. If you use his S2 on an enemy that already has rupture, it pops immediately. Uptie 4 Talisman Sinclair becomes clunky to use in a team that either has a lot of gluttony or a lot of rupture. Guess what team has a lot of both? Shocker, it's the rupture team.
    But you know what? That is a moot point. Why? Because I'm about to tell you *The Tech™* on what to do with Talisman Sinclair to make him effective, easy to use, and basically risk free: BENCH him on the rupture team variant that has K Corp Hong Lu in it. For the low low price of 4+ gluttony resonance, you can make your Hong Lu dish out, at minimum, 20 rupture potency with his S2 and S3, and guarantees the heal proc on his S2. "But the talisman pops immediately waah" oh boo hoo, your K Lu got conked for 12 damage at round end, cry me a river he has 4 health bars. No. With a team that can sustain even a little bit of rupture count, this shit can get you from 8 to 80 potency in one go. I'm telling you, this is the sauce.

    • @seanvalentijn4020
      @seanvalentijn4020 9 місяців тому

      I perma benched both Talisman Sinclair and K-corp Hong lu in my rupture teams, allows me to use the excessive amounts of gluttony in my defence skills to activate them both at will.
      If no hp is lost the k-corp ampule first targets the lowest max hp character and next turn the highest max hp character that just lost hp from talismans, preventing the same ally from getting the k-korp ampule twice since that targets damaged characters over undamaged ones with low max hp.
      Helps with cycling around who gets extra rupture potency while giving the tank, the Rosespanner Gregor and the character that just got staggered extra survivability.
      (Seriously Rosespanner gregor is way too frail while requiring tremor to make his s3 rupture count even work.)
      Seven Outis S2 with talismans gives a good rupture nuke.
      I'll take another look at switching in K-corp Hong Lu as talisman using tank later today.

  • @maatvarzsh
    @maatvarzsh 9 місяців тому

    why isnt the harpoon heath here? im kinda new and pulled two of him (idk if thats normal)

  • @CrystalOatz
    @CrystalOatz 10 місяців тому +158

    1:40 I *love* that you put so much editing work in just for this quick segment! It really gives off way more personality and life than just PNGs of the new identities.

    • @Late0NightPC
      @Late0NightPC 10 місяців тому +20

      I especially love Gregor sneaking away, and Zwei Faust turning around just a moment too late to catch him, or maybe she did, and sent 7 Yi Sang to chase him down?

    • @Alouvfrent
      @Alouvfrent 10 місяців тому +2

      All the little details like that make it a really enjoyable watch.

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +48

      Took me like...2 full hours, glad people liked it despite it being literally 5 seconds long lmao

  • @simplysquibbly
    @simplysquibbly 10 місяців тому +35

    1:58 Zwei Gregor
    2:50 Regret Faust
    4:29 Zwei Faust
    5:22 Molar Yi Sang
    6:01 Dieci Rodion
    7:16 Seven Heathcliff
    8:58 Seven Faust
    10:12 W Hong Lu
    11:45 Molar Outis
    12:50 W Yi Sang
    14:22 Hook Hong Lu
    15:26 W Ryoshu
    16:50 Tierlist Adjustments

  • @martinjimenez2884
    @martinjimenez2884 10 місяців тому +12

    IF THE DM ALLOWS? LIMBUS COMPANY TTRPG CONFIRMED?!

  • @AlterFear
    @AlterFear 10 місяців тому +11

    Sloshing

  • @Not_Rui_
    @Not_Rui_ 10 місяців тому +90

    Let’s hope that they find a way to do things other than “charge but ___” for our season 3 IDs.

    • @noobychoco454
      @noobychoco454 10 місяців тому +25

      burn armor
      burn armor
      burn armor
      (burn stacks turn into shield, immune to burn damage)

    • @torque8047
      @torque8047 10 місяців тому +12

      _when the id roll this coin they will literally die_

    • @playday663
      @playday663 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@noobychoco454finally a Philip id

    • @noyes8882
      @noyes8882 10 місяців тому +3

      black silence ID: insane coin rolls and shut but as soon as turn three starts he gets too sad to keep fighting (this is a great idea trust me)

    • @dumbino7745
      @dumbino7745 10 місяців тому +1

      Pirate Greggor is pretty cool, him being both a bleed and poise ID and the whole one shot bullet gimmick he has going on is pretty unique, so I'd say the season is off to a great start.
      also, I'm glad they are going back to ammo IDs seeing how we only ever got Rabbit and LCB Ish way back at launch, the fact they are also bringing in new gimmicks to them as well makes it even better.

  • @dumbino7745
    @dumbino7745 10 місяців тому +8

    20:43 Rabbit will not get ammo each wave, he only gets the +3 from the start of the fight and that's it.
    I tested it out in the exp stage back when the update was still new.
    edit: just tried it again in a story fight just to make sure, he still only got the 3 ammo from the start and nothing from the start of the second wave.

  • @jakcesleepingrn5739
    @jakcesleepingrn5739 8 місяців тому +2

    Automatic episodes generation did the funny

  • @BloodMoonFT
    @BloodMoonFT 10 місяців тому +17

    As of yesterday I have completely caught up in terms of the story, I am so excited to get to start Canto 5 along with everyone and I've been watching your videos as guides! Thanks!

  • @MagiKAL98
    @MagiKAL98 10 місяців тому +9

    Just a thought for future videos like this:
    Even though you are progressively moving from bottom to top, it would still be nice to see the ID marked on the tierlist when you give them their final score.
    They're marked when you introduce them, why not again when you score them?
    It’s manageable now, but it would get increasingly difficult to find the ID on the list as the pool keeps getting bigger.

  • @Ie_Froggy
    @Ie_Froggy 10 місяців тому +3

    My UT 4 logic is:
    Is it Yi Sang?
    Yes: Uptie 4 idc
    No: Is it Faust?
    Yes: uptie 4 maybe
    No: Is it gud?

  • @SonicDen220
    @SonicDen220 10 місяців тому +17

    Finally, somebody else realized how insane W Hong Lu's guard skill is.
    His high speed and guard skill make him a great free 00 tank to bring into MD2H.

  • @PioSpike2000
    @PioSpike2000 10 місяців тому +2

    they need to allow me to revert an uptie, i can no longer apply talisman in mirror dungeon with red sheet sinclar without using guard 5 times, f me

  • @rou620
    @rou620 5 місяців тому +2

    Just a reminder it's almost time for you to update the Uptie 4 Tier list for the new season :>
    (seriously this is rlly helpful for new player to focus on why no one wlse doing it)

  • @tipherethscrub982
    @tipherethscrub982 10 місяців тому +23

    I have been a loong term talisman sinclair user. I use all Sinclairs a lot, but he's my second most used.
    His uptie 4 makes him stronger, but like you said, less consistent. I think bottom of B tier is fine, although I might've put him higher myself. Something people tend to not consider is that if he does overfeed himself with Talismans, he inflicts a lot more rupture and is thus able to make himself even stronger. His self-damage is negligible, especially if you bring his Lantern E.G.O.
    As for overshooting... There's a few ways to go about it. If you lack a skill 3, you can use skill 1 to reliably gain 1-2 Talismans. At 4 Talismans, just trigger his passive (3x Glut. Resonance) and use a skill 3, because that does still work and apply the 5 Talismans to the target. If you still don't have any way to get skill 3 out, you can stall gaining Talisman by using any E.G.O **without gluttony resonance.** You cannot have a 3x Gluttony Resonance or your E.G.O **will** give you Talismans.
    Oh, one more thing, Sinclair's base E.G.O inflicts 12 rupture potency on use. With Talismans, It can inflict even more (5 from the enemy + however many on self), and Lantern's synergy is obvious. This Sinclair has some of the highest E.G.O synergy in the game!
    This is all I have to say but very soon there will be more to be said. Just you wait, ESGOO.

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +10

      It’s fascinating to see the amount of controversy on Talisclair UT4. I do think bottom of B tier is about as fair a rank I can give for your average player, especially since I explain the combo. Him dealing extra rupture with talismans on him is true, and interesting…and, like you say, self damage does not matter nearly as much as it should in Limbus.
      I’ll be interested to see where my thoughts on him settle by the end of season 3.

    • @tipherethscrub982
      @tipherethscrub982 10 місяців тому +3

      @@therealESGOO If you want me to be honest, it's because people don't like thinking. Uptie 4 Talisman Sinclair is, objectively, stronger. But he takes more thinking and effort to set up. People want to winrate and he doesn't work for that.

    • @tipherethscrub982
      @tipherethscrub982 10 місяців тому +3

      I do not have a way to send images, but you cannot underestimate the power of talisman sinclair. He can unironically easily turn all attacks into 100+ damage per hit, and no other rupture unit comes close when he works.

    • @ravipedroza2034
      @ravipedroza2034 10 місяців тому +1

      My RNG with Talisclair was always really bad, but it never mattered when I used him, because I would just fill him up with skill slots and turn him into a nuke- he always got top damage on fights.
      The fact he fuels Lantern in a great way just makes him even stronger. This ID is a little broken for a 00, tbh.

  • @hz883
    @hz883 6 місяців тому +1

    Yo thank h for making these vids u the goat.
    Just wondering, would u still consider Liu Greg worry uptying now that Liu rodya and Liu ryoshu are out?

  • @Luxes-
    @Luxes- 10 місяців тому +6

    I was wondering when this would come out after you mentioned making it in another video. Would definitely appreciate to see future value tier list update videos drop at least a day or two before a new season to give us a chance to dump some resources brainlessly last minute before all those egoshard crates get vaporized into thread. Thanks for the video still though!

  • @chimchim26215
    @chimchim26215 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the video mr sweaty gamer of old

  • @Rieru
    @Rieru 10 місяців тому +2

    Hello! Which units would you consider core to Rupture teams aside from 7 faust + 7 heath?

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +1

      Depending on your tastes, Talisman Sinclair, Kong Lu with Dimension Shredder, W Yi Sang (Dimension Shredder preferred), Rose Gregor works nicely for Rupture. And I think 7Ryo is fine for the team because it give 7cliff his passive bonus.

  • @advbassdrop3956
    @advbassdrop3956 10 місяців тому +1

    Man project moon will never make poise viable there's never poise count *smash cut to pirate Greg eith 80 poise and 20 count) OH MY GOODNESS

  • @solaariel2692
    @solaariel2692 10 місяців тому +3

    When you have time (might be tricky with season 3 starting) I'd like to see a video on Rupture. Your statement that "Rupture is in a good spot right now" kinda shocked me because last time I looked rupture had major issues with count, to the point where most of its IDs were net negative.

  • @Dealve
    @Dealve 10 місяців тому +3

    I did a full rupture team run in Railway 2 with Talisman Sinclair uptie 4. Honestly I am also torn on which is better. For railway purposes, being able to two turn setup a huge wincon like talisman is pretty huge, and the +3 rupture count on his skill 3 is also not to be underestimated. However, there was a lot of turns where either via his passive or just from other rupture application he just went over 5 talismans and didn't add too much, im not sure how much of this problem uptie 4 really causes, since most of those turns weren't ones with skill 3 in rotation, and I can only think of a couple times where it backfired and prevented me from setting up talismans. I definitely don't regret uptie 4, but it's definitely not always better.

  • @GoogleAccount-jn5qb
    @GoogleAccount-jn5qb 10 місяців тому +3

    Charge

  • @SiriusFrostalite
    @SiriusFrostalite 9 місяців тому +1

    Honestly would love if you could have actual tierlist on some website to review so whoever has certain id's could know which ones would be more profitable to uptie. Just as I got into limbus company with latest update that kind of made it harder, I require to watch lots of guides on things.

  • @epicidex1006
    @epicidex1006 9 місяців тому +1

    19:34 you can do one sided guard to get rid of your skill without gaining talisman

  • @SuwakoMoriya
    @SuwakoMoriya 10 місяців тому +1

    I think Regret Faust is better in a non-tremor team than a tremor one, since her passive and S3 are all about different types of negative effects rather than just Tremor, which is also your most likely team on harder content such as RR or MD2H (soon to be replaced), as thematic teams just aren't as optimal.
    The consistency between on-hit vs coin-head/tails hit is really important on Railway where the first fight really matters, as well as how EGO usage and enemy passives can make your SP management harder and less likely to hit all your "on Heads hit".
    It's also nice for story stages since you would start most fights with 0 SP. Getting to hit those 5 ~ 10 self-tremor counts with Faust consistently can make you have a constant flow of weight 2+ attacks and -1 plus coin on multiple enemies at once, which really speeds up cleaning up stages for the EX clears.
    Oh, also, U4 Hex Nail applies 4 status effects by itself, so it's pretty easy to take advantage of that 30% extra damage on her S3 if you happen to have it (as you only need 1 more status effect from somewhere else for the full effect), and the passive works well together with Regret Faust (free +10% dmg from self-tremor).

  • @dokoham1
    @dokoham1 9 місяців тому +1

    what is the tier list website address?

  • @AlphaHydrod
    @AlphaHydrod 10 місяців тому +2

    21:20 ITS AS SHRIMPLE AS THAT

  • @rain-pj4xq
    @rain-pj4xq 10 місяців тому +1

    Update gregor became a pirate

  • @zaero2379
    @zaero2379 10 місяців тому +1

    Pirate Gregor is a charge id

  • @bunidze
    @bunidze 10 місяців тому +1

    I wish you posted this video before end of the Season 2, like 1 week earlier, cuz I was looking for which ID's to uptie tier 4 before new Season. Anyway great video, thank you for your content~!

  • @AngieBeef
    @AngieBeef 10 місяців тому +1

    (23:35)
    How he has so much boxes?

    • @AngieBeef
      @AngieBeef 10 місяців тому

      @qqutc Makes sense. Thanks.

  • @svafnir9074
    @svafnir9074 10 місяців тому +1

    I used talclair in rr2 full rupture run and fck me he is probably one of the most annoying id to use he always exceeds talisman count if you had 3 glut res which is the most common sin in rupture team even without res if you have rupture on the start when you use s2 and win with 3 coin you always get 6 talisman s1 is complete garbage and gets too long to build up and 1 use s2 completely resets cycle even when you have exact 5 talisman when you s3 doesn't line up in chain it completely resets the cycle because one you can't use defense because it gives 1 talisman 2 even when you use ego if you get res with hit tal increase by 1 and cycle resets again and every failure to reach exact cap you take damage 1 upside is when you had 4 tal if you activate res with s3 you still apply tal imo talisman needs complete rework for example increase the cap to 8 or smt and when you hit or get hit decrease the talisman by 1

  • @PinkLilly55
    @PinkLilly55 10 місяців тому +2

    Enjoy the ishy chapter man! Thank you so much for the content

  • @Hazeltwooh
    @Hazeltwooh 2 місяці тому

    i really hope the chapters are auto generated but theyre genuinely funny to look at

  • @tad1097
    @tad1097 2 місяці тому

    Can u do another uptie 4 video near the end of ss4, these videos help me alot as new player

  • @LightBytess
    @LightBytess 9 місяців тому

    16:49 it might seem crazy what im 'bout to say..

  • @awanama4565
    @awanama4565 10 місяців тому +1

    What a good video to watch before Canto 3 starts
    Surely it came out on time

  • @freezew101
    @freezew101 10 місяців тому +1

    why is my boy rosespanner meursault moved down a tier he does not deserve this kind of treatment
    fyi his skill description is bugged and it counts tremor potency instead of count

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому

      That actually just completely slipped my mind. That’s embarrassing. He should be in mid B tier now with that adjustment. I’ll talk about him again at some point and correct my mistake in that video. I hate Project Moon and their shitty translation on skills…

  • @therandombag2121
    @therandombag2121 3 дні тому

    Editing ESGOO knows all

  • @pafrisore8877
    @pafrisore8877 10 місяців тому +1

    I aint reading allat 😢

  • @Egalia_1
    @Egalia_1 10 місяців тому +1

    Looking forward to the new tier lists, as the meta changes I love seeing how the rankings change with it

  • @malcolmross1038
    @malcolmross1038 10 місяців тому +1

    Let’s Go!! Uptie IV Round 2!!

  • @jpkurihara
    @jpkurihara 10 місяців тому +1

    Hope Esgoo recovers quickly from his tragic bus "accident"

    • @covid19sama
      @covid19sama 9 місяців тому +1

      If recent(ish) ESGOO lore is to be believed, he actually exploded into 6 smaller ESGOONs when he was hit by the bus

  • @ekimmak
    @ekimmak 10 місяців тому

    Meanwhile, yesterday, I showed what happens when you can get Tremor to stick on a team with Regret Faust on it.
    Hey, Town Robot. You know what happens when you only have one body part? Tremor Stacks start getting crazy.

  • @Aliosar22
    @Aliosar22 10 місяців тому

    Ahhh, yesterday I was looking to spend my leftover EGO shards. Now anything I didn't spend got turned to thread.

  • @RussianCollapse
    @RussianCollapse 10 місяців тому

    I love how I randomly uptied Wyoshu to 4 (I didn't know much about upties and over-all on how to play the game not just "ooga-booga" mode), and never regretted it (its still my only 4 uptie)

  • @snipermagoo
    @snipermagoo 10 місяців тому

    Kurokumo Rodion still has a wrong description on her skill 1. It says +3 but it's only +2.

  • @The_pain_train
    @The_pain_train 10 місяців тому +1

    21:40 the updated tier list

  • @notloopers1110
    @notloopers1110 10 місяців тому

    Hey ESGOO, ive been tryin to go into canto V with a base id team, what do you think the best of the base IDs are for a 6-7 team

  • @warthogs3098
    @warthogs3098 10 місяців тому

    Ayo stop dissing my boy 7Sang. He's special i swear.

  • @mitacestalia7532
    @mitacestalia7532 8 місяців тому

    HELL YEAH. I am hesitant to raise w lu, but now I'll do it

  • @ledemondoughnut
    @ledemondoughnut 10 місяців тому

    I literally only use talisman sinclair as support id in conjunction with KLu since he can easily self heal the dmg

  • @Lh0000
    @Lh0000 10 місяців тому

    I can’t believe esgoo got hit by Charon going vroom vroom. How horrible

  • @airgear72
    @airgear72 10 місяців тому

    I uptie 4 all 000 IDs but didn't know who to Uptie 4 00 IDs so thank you.

  • @haltheclown454
    @haltheclown454 10 місяців тому

    glad we are making charge team users spend extra resources to make their ids viable kek

  • @jeterpilled_memester
    @jeterpilled_memester 7 місяців тому

    now let's see season 3 end's uptie 4 value tier list(soon)

  • @frayacedare5246
    @frayacedare5246 10 місяців тому

    Will you ever talk about upties for EGO?

  • @MistrumFeathering
    @MistrumFeathering 10 місяців тому

    Liked, because I am a true Heathcliffer.

  • @meow-q9p
    @meow-q9p 7 місяців тому

    Can you do one now

  • @dogrulez9541
    @dogrulez9541 10 місяців тому +3

    Sloshmael W poggers

  • @danzha
    @danzha 10 місяців тому

    What's that about a pirate Gregor ID? 😂

  • @DesgracaDisgracinha
    @DesgracaDisgracinha 10 місяців тому

    Charge

  • @spygames5486
    @spygames5486 10 місяців тому +3

    I like the long videos! I watched your older video completely, so I think it would be nice to have one for every season

  • @Interstice1994
    @Interstice1994 10 місяців тому

    As someone who got burnt out on Canto 4 and went back today this is HUGE for me! Thank you! You deserve my sub!

  • @_NguyenTruongKhoa
    @_NguyenTruongKhoa 10 місяців тому

    Man I owe you ,thanks to you that I have a lot of fun with other team comp instead of Charge only , may your channel and your health go well

  • @Mystlio
    @Mystlio 10 місяців тому +8

    When will Ryōshū be jump roping butt booty naked in the story

    • @Not_Rui_
      @Not_Rui_ 10 місяців тому +1

      You gotta go.

    • @ILoveLesti
      @ILoveLesti 10 місяців тому +11

      You have to be contained.

    • @JJ-cq8ld
      @JJ-cq8ld 10 місяців тому +2

      This is so fucking real tho

    • @AlphaHydrod
      @AlphaHydrod 10 місяців тому +8

      Never cook again

    • @Radiance_Buer
      @Radiance_Buer 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm labeling you a Teth level threat. Go distort yourself now.

  • @richardomilos8686
    @richardomilos8686 10 місяців тому

    The era of fishmael is upon us.

  • @jotaheeey5339
    @jotaheeey5339 10 місяців тому

    THIS MAN PREDICTED PIRATE GREGOR

  • @GA7273
    @GA7273 10 місяців тому

    3 months of Esgoo woooooooo

  • @Kylotl
    @Kylotl 10 місяців тому

    epic rupture win!

  • @eloywhodunnit2034
    @eloywhodunnit2034 10 місяців тому

    P E A K

  • @rovyy8008
    @rovyy8008 10 місяців тому

    Very

  • @AxpherLIX
    @AxpherLIX 10 місяців тому

    Peak

  • @warnertesla8297
    @warnertesla8297 10 місяців тому +1

    How is chef ryoshu still F tier? The extra healing she gets is great.

    • @drunkenpotato143
      @drunkenpotato143 10 місяців тому +6

      It's tricky to activate since most of endgame content (aka the ones you need the heals the most) is usually big abnormalities boss fights, and in the entire game there's like 3 abno boss that summons minions for you to kill.
      so when compared to say.. turning R.Ish from a funny teamkiller to an insane sinking unit, Chef Ryoshu's UT4 just isn't worth as much

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +4

      Very expensive for, realistically, little tangible benefit. At most you are healing maybe 7 more over the course of a fight, and it’s uncontrollable in human fights, where you’re more likely to get value. 1 bleed and 1 more HP Healing Down are honestly more valuable…but again, cost is the main thing dragging her down to the bottom.

  • @thousandyoung
    @thousandyoung 10 місяців тому

    Too much Warp Shilling, the only must have are W Don and W Ryoshu to this Day. Maybe i'll start using W. Meur finally when P.M. stop being Greedy Gacha Clowns and make Regret Ego buyable on Dispenser.

  • @Judgement-Bird
    @Judgement-Bird 10 місяців тому

    It is strange that W.corp Meursault is S rank and N.corp Sinclair is C rank.😂
    This tier list is as if it was made by someone who has never played this game.🤣🤣

    • @epicidex1006
      @epicidex1006 10 місяців тому +3

      Its based on how much they improve after uptie 4, not how good they are