Thatcher Vs Kinnock Labour Haven't A Clue

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  • @Canthatcrazy
    @Canthatcrazy 3 роки тому +315

    Love her, or hate her: she was a leader. Not like this lot these days

  • @emmaherron5121
    @emmaherron5121 4 роки тому +578

    1990- Labour haven’t a clue
    2020- Labour still haven’t a clue

    • @5gonza541
      @5gonza541 4 роки тому +6

      Lmao, made me chuckle

    • @adamfull6208
      @adamfull6208 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @darkmaster83
      @darkmaster83 4 роки тому +35

      Conservatives - Still haven't got a bigger clue.

    • @paekman63
      @paekman63 4 роки тому +24

      2029 Labour still in opposition.

    • @darkmaster83
      @darkmaster83 4 роки тому +6

      @@paekman63 2041, Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM.

  • @norrissidek2519
    @norrissidek2519 2 роки тому +10

    The Iron Lady of the Great Britain..RIP Madam.

  • @gailcrook2687
    @gailcrook2687 3 роки тому +144

    I'm enjoying this more now than at the time, I can't stop watching her, clever lady

    • @seaside456
      @seaside456 Рік тому +3

      Give me a sick bag,quick.

    • @davidgrahambrown3793
      @davidgrahambrown3793 Рік тому +4

      She brought a dose of realism to Britain, replacing a weak Labour government in hock to the trade unions that all but ran the country.

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 Рік тому

      Dead lady.

    • @steveturner6770
      @steveturner6770 Рік тому +5

      Im so pleased she closed our mines and shipyards.

    • @petyrkowalski9887
      @petyrkowalski9887 Рік тому +1

      « Clever » at selling off all our assets, ruining our infrastructure, suppressing workers rights, ruining our manufacturing industries, enriching herself, her family and horrible friends like Pinochet… cunning and vile but not clever.

  • @cestall1
    @cestall1 6 років тому +714

    She was a total badass. Modern "feminists" couldn't hold a candle to her.

    • @chloejones1548
      @chloejones1548 5 років тому +27

      She wasn't a feminist

    • @debbieharry387
      @debbieharry387 5 років тому +6

      i BET YOU ARE UNDER 30

    • @chloejones1548
      @chloejones1548 5 років тому +16

      Fuck no, she was the spawn of Satan@Paulo Chan

    • @johnennis5234
      @johnennis5234 5 років тому +7

      She was that good she got taken out by her own side before she was hammered by the public! Remember the Poll Tax

    • @larrybxl5406
      @larrybxl5406 5 років тому +10

      She was a TOTAL DISASTER to the UK and its economy!!

  • @historyprofessor1985
    @historyprofessor1985 4 роки тому +151

    Mrs. Thatcher was truly a badass ! She owned anyone she debated, EVERYTIME!! As an American, we could use someone like her!!!

    • @gailcrook2687
      @gailcrook2687 2 роки тому +5

      @Bernard Fitzsimons as a one parent family with a young child, it worked for me, then it shot up when it was axed causing us hardship

    • @thomaswalker869
      @thomaswalker869 Рік тому +3

      You do. You have donald trump. The best President you could ever get

    • @historyprofessor1985
      @historyprofessor1985 Рік тому

      @@thomaswalker869 , That's highly disrespectful to the legacy of Mrs. Thatcher. To compare her to Trump is like comparing a dignified warrior to a classless twit. Thatcher was fierce and unrelenting, but she always conducted herself with class and dignity. Trump is a loudmouth, arrogant, boorish fool who repeatedly lies and then gets wildly offended whenever someone calls his bullshit. THERE IS ZERO COMPARISON.

    • @thomaswalker869
      @thomaswalker869 Рік тому +1

      @@historyprofessor1985 maybe classless in some peoples eyey but he is Americas saviour in chief weather you like or agree with him or not . he the best you got at present. Listen to the British. We will keep you on the right path

    • @thomaswalker869
      @thomaswalker869 Рік тому

      My comparison was the fact they both take/took no nonsense and actually got things done. A government is only worth its salt when it does its job properly for the people. You wont get that with Joe Biden/Democrat party. The Don is your best option for 2024. You may not like but you cant stop an irresistable force or cast aside an immovable object. It is what it is. America can be saved. Northern Ireland stands behind GOP For midterms 2022 and Trump 2024. Get ready for getting stuff done.

  • @KazgarothUsher
    @KazgarothUsher 2 роки тому +4

    The Poll Tax was her worst political error

    • @terrychilderley9574
      @terrychilderley9574 Рік тому +1

      Difficult to tell, she made so many. Took a long time before somebody in her party had to guts to bring her down.

  • @daleeasternbrat816
    @daleeasternbrat816 4 роки тому +41

    I enjoy watching Parliament more than I do Congress. Especially when someone like Margaret Thatcher is speaking.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 роки тому +1

      Don't bother watching parliament in 2020 - they are awful

  • @ecpnothnagel9121
    @ecpnothnagel9121 5 місяців тому +4

    Kinnock? Never ever heard of him. Thatcher though? What a woman. What a legend!

  • @mutinyonthekitkat
    @mutinyonthekitkat 4 роки тому +65

    Her buttons are like two manic eyes staring out.

  • @bingeltube
    @bingeltube 6 років тому +226

    Maggie was feisty and well prepared

    • @tigerarmyrule
      @tigerarmyrule 5 років тому +12

      As she always was. Magnificent lady.

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому +4

      that bastard splitarse decimated british industries and wiped out whole communities with her malice and spite good riddance to bad rubbish I wish I could have buried a stake in her evil heart.

    • @elcannon9404
      @elcannon9404 5 років тому +1

      Not sure. This issue killed her off.

    • @radiator0
      @radiator0 5 років тому +1

      @@pauldavies4496u welsh by any chance lol.....

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому

      British and welsh and proud of it. my concern is for the uk as a whole not just wales what that woman did was not out of good for the country but has she admitted a few months before her death that it was out of revenge for the fall of heah' govement which was never the mineworkers or steelworkers intention.

  • @stephenasbridge878
    @stephenasbridge878 Місяць тому +2

    Neil Kinnock was so perfect to become an EU commissioner; absolutely an empty vessel.

  • @richardlaversuch2901
    @richardlaversuch2901 8 років тому +126

    Kinnock hammered again.

    • @commanderspock531
      @commanderspock531 5 років тому +6

      Imagine what she would do to the Communist, IRA, Hamas supporting Corbyn? :D

    • @iminaplanet2004
      @iminaplanet2004 4 роки тому +6

      Margret Thatcher would obliterate Jeremy Corbyn, No offence if anyone supports Labour

  • @acecase1383
    @acecase1383 7 років тому +200

    Maggie owned poor Kinnock.walkover

    • @ashbuzz2627
      @ashbuzz2627 5 років тому

      Total.

    • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
      @ChrisGroggyCreaser 5 років тому +2

      Kinnock Should've been a village idiot...

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 5 років тому +1

      Yes same as Thornberry is wiping the floor with pussy Liddles

    • @GryphLane
      @GryphLane 5 років тому

      Lies. Absolute horseshit.

    • @christinacrimari3543
      @christinacrimari3543 2 роки тому +1

      I disagree, I think Kinnock was underrated

  • @RH-xf4vf
    @RH-xf4vf 5 років тому +26

    She was a brilliant debater. So sharp. And he by contrast could really waffle. However, on the substantive point, the poll tax was an unmitigated disaster and thoroughly pernicious.

  • @knicol46
    @knicol46 3 роки тому +7

    I voted Labour with the majority in 1997. I am still paying for that mistake in 2020. Labour still do not understand this.

    • @heronsdoor4658
      @heronsdoor4658 3 роки тому

      Same here, my friend. Back then, how could we know the famous mantra of Blair... "keep what you want to do hidden from the public until you're in power" ... I'd put him in prison for so many reasons.

  • @bruh949
    @bruh949 2 роки тому +5

    Thank god Major also wiped the flaw with Kinnock. What a stupid man. Stood no chance against Thatcher or Major.

  • @jamessidebottom5868
    @jamessidebottom5868 5 років тому +48

    we could do with lady Thatcher now with Brexit! GREAT PRIME MINISTER

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 4 роки тому

      Thatcher was the main inventor of the Single Market LMAO. God brexiteers are stupid.

    • @Kukryniksy1974
      @Kukryniksy1974 Рік тому +1

      The best prime minister

    • @terrychilderley9574
      @terrychilderley9574 Рік тому +1

      She was pro europe. Think before you comment.

    • @dannyH84
      @dannyH84 Рік тому

      @@terrychilderley9574 that went right over your head didn’t it

  • @phillipgreer4875
    @phillipgreer4875 6 років тому +327

    I never admitted this before and I was always anti-thatcher but there is no doubt in my mind now she was the best PM we ever had. So much better than the anti british, pro immigration (cos he thinks it'll make us more left wing)spendthrift Corbyn. And I have voted Labour all my life. But never for Corbyn.

    • @lainewoolcock1335
      @lainewoolcock1335 5 років тому +7

      Clement Attlee was the best prime minister we've ever had. His government created the NHS, finalised the welfare state and saved the UK from a recession that would have occurred if Churchill had been in government following WWII.

    • @michaellirette929
      @michaellirette929 5 років тому +14

      She was the best

    • @cg8130
      @cg8130 5 років тому +16

      Im a labor voter, from a familiy of labor voters and im willing to say we need someone like her!
      Corbyns a prat.

    • @michaellirette929
      @michaellirette929 5 років тому +2

      C G well said

    • @commanderspock531
      @commanderspock531 5 років тому +12

      PHILLIP GREER - I was a child of the 80s and we were all conditioned to hate Thatcher mainly by the BBC. Today, I think back to the 80s and it's not just nostalgia I would far rather be there than in this decade and I say we've regressed so far now into a state of degeneracy, chaos, atomization as a people in Britain and there is no 'Conservative' party anymore. Nothing is conserved, everything is progressive, everything is being eroded and destroyed that made this nation so great.

  • @sjm2752
    @sjm2752 4 роки тому +23

    The Conservatives wiped the floor with Labour then and 30 years later continue to do so!

  • @telabib
    @telabib 8 років тому +137

    That bag of wind (mr expenses) was no match for Maggie.

  • @5centsworth107
    @5centsworth107 5 років тому +18

    There were definite problems with poll taxes especially in admin collection due to mobile workforce etc but Thatcher defended well and logically. Should learn from this lady how to argue calmly, with facts and stating stand very clearly without being flustered by heckling.

    • @vordman
      @vordman Рік тому +1

      Maggie was a one off. Never entered the Commons without doing her homework first. Total pro.

  • @23rdjune
    @23rdjune 5 років тому +94

    Mrs T was a giant on the world stage. Took us from being 'The economic basket case of Europe' under Labour during 'The winter of discontent' to a world economic power once again (oh, and throw in sending a task force to sort out Argentina in the Falklands, which no one else would have done) and she was demonstrably way better than any muppet we've had since!

    • @kenmay1572
      @kenmay1572 Рік тому +2

      Is that why she was sacked, not by a Gen Elec, but by her own party

  • @bilimitsu
    @bilimitsu 2 роки тому +5

    Wasn't the poll tax scrapped almost immediately in the face of wide public protest, suggesting that Mr Kinnock was in fact proved right here?

    • @chrisholland1504
      @chrisholland1504 Рік тому

      Er? Have you been on the planet Zog?

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Рік тому

      @@chrisholland1504 it WAS and they were soon to scrap Mrs T as well

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 4 місяці тому

      The poll tax was Thatcher’s undoing. So many years in No. 10 made her oblivious to the consequences of the poll tax and the backlash. The Tories are ruthless when it comes to tearing down their leaders.

    • @benjaminwilliams2264
      @benjaminwilliams2264 2 місяці тому

      Poll tax damaged her reputation her own side brought her down. Shame Michael Heseltine didn't replace her.

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 2 місяці тому

      Michael Heseltine would have made a great PM.

  • @largesatsuma
    @largesatsuma 7 років тому +226

    As useless as Kinnock was, he was still better than Corbyn is right now.

    • @garya4907
      @garya4907 7 років тому +15

      I sadly agree..

    • @marygoodnight8892
      @marygoodnight8892 7 років тому +2

      Thumbed up.

    • @Azhark94
      @Azhark94 7 років тому +2

      fuck off ya muppet, look at him now.

    • @garya4907
      @garya4907 7 років тому +11

      Fuck off yourself he's fucking nowhere and never will be.... He's promising the world and buying votes ; this twat if he got in would bankrupt the lot of us. If you have any shares they'll be wiped out the country would be on it's knees+ over run with his friends from terror organisations.....

    • @largesatsuma
      @largesatsuma 7 років тому +5

      Labour is going to lose this election. That's what I'm looking at.

  • @Robby334
    @Robby334 5 років тому +11

    Not seen dear Maggie on youtube for ages - Glad she is back "Good on you Maggie" xxx RIP

  • @At_the_races
    @At_the_races 5 років тому +27

    The , so called poll tax was completely fair, Why should a house of ten pay, the same in rates, as a house of two?

    • @mauricelloyd839
      @mauricelloyd839 5 років тому +2

      because a woman stayed at home to look after her children had no income, but was expected to pay poll tax

    • @gareththomas6714
      @gareththomas6714 5 років тому +1

      A Wiganer--poll tax fair?A Wanker would be more accurate lmao

  • @mshroye2
    @mshroye2 5 років тому +3

    I’m an American who is a Bernie Sanders supporter but I admire her greatly because she stood up for what she believed in and she was able to wipe the floor with those tossers on the other side of the house I still feel the if her MPs weren’t looking out for themselves in 1990 and booted her out she would have kicked Neil Kinnocks ass again in 1992

    • @ecpnothnagel9121
      @ecpnothnagel9121 5 місяців тому

      Yeah don't be a Bernie Sanders supporter please. Just vote Trump this year and stop the silliness. Your country is in a dumpster due to woke socialists and you're running out of time.

  • @Inyourlap
    @Inyourlap 3 роки тому +34

    This is enjoyable to watch. The debate is fun but the poll tax led to her downfall. It was a mistake. She couldn’t listen to the people anymore, she thought she was untouchable. Eventually she was kicked out by her own party

    • @streamsofconsciousness8651
      @streamsofconsciousness8651 Рік тому +5

      I'm still not convinced that the community charge was wrong. The concept that we all contribute, rather than just homeowners, was a very unpopular but not at all unreasonable idea

    • @doctorsocrates4413
      @doctorsocrates4413 Рік тому

      she was betrayed by her own party...it was john major who brought in the council tax to replace poll tax.

    • @rjhtrucking5429
      @rjhtrucking5429 10 місяців тому +3

      The poll tax didn't bring her down , her own back benchers did. Get your facts right .

    • @Inyourlap
      @Inyourlap 10 місяців тому

      @@rjhtrucking5429 Get yours right and get some perspective. All historians agree on the fact that the poll tax was the last straw that started her downfall. The Conservative MPs couldn’t support her anymore because there was too much discontent in their constituencies. Members of the cabinet also decided that was enough.
      If you have a short term vision of history, her backbenchers indeed brought her down. But you’re certainly not too stupid to understand that they must have some reasons to do so. A party doesn’t disown their leader just because a whim strikes them. The poll tax was voted in 87/88 and progressively implemented in 89/90. After the poll tax was announced, opinion polls showed the Labour opposition opening a strong lead over the Conservative government. Following the Poll Tax Riots, Conservative ministers contemplated abolition of the tax but knew that, as a flagship Thatcherite policy, its abolition would not be possible while Thatcher was still Prime Minister. Kinnock had vowed to abolish the poll tax if he won the next general election. For this, among other reasons, Thatcher was challenged by Michael Heseltine for the Conservative leadership in November 1990. Although she prevailed by a margin of fifty votes, she narrowly missed the threshold to avoid a second vote, and on 22 November 1990 she announced her resignation after more than a decade in office. All three of the contenders to succeed her pledged to abandon the tax.

    • @joecurran2811
      @joecurran2811 16 днів тому

      ​@@streamsofconsciousness8651It didn't take into account wealth levels which is what really did it in

  • @PinheadLarryVEVO
    @PinheadLarryVEVO 9 років тому +53

    Thank you so much thatcheritescot for feeding my thatcher obsession!

    • @griekgek
      @griekgek 9 років тому +2

      Harry Conner Quite right, I feel quite the same

    • @quick46
      @quick46 5 років тому

      She's still dead boys & sizzling in hell

    • @ryanhunter2987
      @ryanhunter2987 3 роки тому

      Quite!

  • @davidinchester
    @davidinchester 9 років тому +264

    Loving seeing Maggie wipe the floor with Kinnock as she always did!

    • @jules-tt3ro
      @jules-tt3ro 7 років тому +2

      David Elliott ...no she shit on the majority of the uk...u weren't a miner or self employed or working class??

    • @jules-tt3ro
      @jules-tt3ro 7 років тому +2

      u 21 disgust me...

    • @GINOTERMINIELLO-gj7ih
      @GINOTERMINIELLO-gj7ih 5 років тому +1

      David Elliott she wipe up my sticky liquid

    • @southendparaquest
      @southendparaquest 5 років тому +3

      @@jules-tt3ro Two words. Arthur, and Scargill. Who started with a small house and a big union? And then ended up with the opposite?

    • @kimk7163
      @kimk7163 4 роки тому

      You clearly didn’t live in the north when peoples lives were ruined because they had no where to work because she closed the mines down!

  • @sickoftheleftwingscum
    @sickoftheleftwingscum 4 роки тому +5

    You will remember this all happened before the questions were seen beforehand like they are now changed by Tony Blair so he could have his answers ready not like Maggie she didn't need to know she could have them tied in knots !

  • @arynrowland862
    @arynrowland862 Місяць тому +1

    Wait a minute, first he criticized her for implementing poll taxes, then he criticized her for capping them in the same breath.😂 Apparently Labour was always wishy-washy.

  • @gentlerowdy
    @gentlerowdy 6 років тому +98

    what an amazing lady !!!!

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому

      piss off jerk

    • @Jay-ej9ru
      @Jay-ej9ru 5 років тому +2

      What a horrible bitch. Thatcher and Cameron did more to destroy this country than any other PM in history. Get real!

    • @Tad1945
      @Tad1945 5 років тому

      she closed everything she did`nt do anything for the working class.

    • @Tad1945
      @Tad1945 5 років тому +1

      she was not an amazing lady just a ruthless one.

    • @ColHogan-le5yk
      @ColHogan-le5yk 4 роки тому

      Yeah if you were rich

  • @andrewdavies5193
    @andrewdavies5193 Рік тому +2

    Cracks me up that so many on here are claiming how great she was and how she wiped the floor with Kinnock and how he didn’t have a clue. Wasn’t this debate around the Poll tax being wrong/flawed etc etc? What exactly happened to the Poll tax in the end? Oh yes how could we forget………and you are all mostly saying that she was thy great one! My word!!!!

  • @debbiearmstrong8273
    @debbiearmstrong8273 Рік тому +2

    Years later and nothings changed with Labour. Clueless back then, clueless now.

  • @clemfandango7052
    @clemfandango7052 5 років тому +12

    Ah, Mrs Thatcher. This 80s pubescent boy's first crush.

    • @carljohnson4353
      @carljohnson4353 3 роки тому +1

      Thatcher was badass but that's weird hahaha

    • @joecurran2811
      @joecurran2811 16 днів тому

      That's a strange first crush 😂

  • @contourbody
    @contourbody Рік тому +1

    Screwed the British Coal industry and never replaced those proud and skilled workforce's jobs, leaving the once thriving and self sustaining Nottinghamshire+South Yorkshire town and village communities, with absolutely nothing!!!

  • @mauricelloyd839
    @mauricelloyd839 5 років тому +2

    the poll tax was a totaly infair

  • @davidclegg2455
    @davidclegg2455 Рік тому +3

    Oxford just can't produce PM's with any standing these days.

  • @Nopicrandom
    @Nopicrandom 4 роки тому +17

    I like how much more lively this is compared to what we have in the States.

  • @Lellobeetle
    @Lellobeetle 10 років тому +7

    Give 'em another jab, Lady T.

  • @jjhearn
    @jjhearn 9 років тому +23

    Love the intros to your videos ha

  • @MrEarthling99
    @MrEarthling99 8 років тому +31

    I'm disgusted to share a Welsh identity with Neil Kinnock.

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому +1

      @Wayne Logan bevan gave us the nhs you ungrateful little shit.

  • @rich3222
    @rich3222 5 років тому +7

    All I remember as a kid was people on the estates having signs up saying we won't pay poll tax,its funny isn't it ,as they are the real tax collectors

    • @CosmicHyperborean
      @CosmicHyperborean Рік тому +1

      Unlike parasitic billionaires, corporations, and bankers. Oh wait, the people you admire.

  • @zippymo672
    @zippymo672 6 років тому +4

    I'm a Labour man. But I loved the Kinnock vs Thatcher duels. They were great to watch. Do you have any Thatcher vs Wilson and Callaghan audio? If so please post.

  • @jonwarddotcom
    @jonwarddotcom Рік тому +1

    The poll tax ended Thatcher. The evidence clearly points to her not having a clue. Anything else just theatrical appreciation.

  • @ladyeowens3370
    @ladyeowens3370 5 років тому +17

    She's amazing. These two needed each other and were a gift to us. Shame modern politicians are so pathetic!

  • @robin-hr9up
    @robin-hr9up 5 років тому +1

    Kinnock - you can't fix stupid. However, he is now coining it in Europe.

  • @susanhughs1031
    @susanhughs1031 5 років тому +38

    I grew up In the 1960's And worked for British rail In the 1970's I was prevented from doing my very under paid job because of Labour unions Like ASFLET (the train driver's union ) lead by Ray Buckton A lazy git who only turned up for work to call strike action a Dozen time a year,? My dad was made redundant In 1965, by that moron Harald Wilson,!!, that K.G.B. Agent for the soviets In russkiy land I can honestly say I have voted Labour AND never will,!!!!!!!, TOO ALL PROPPER LABOUR OLD LABOUR I URGE YOU TO VOTE U.K.I.P. AND FOR BREXIT ,. I THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT BRITISH PEOPLE,.

    • @echoecho9429
      @echoecho9429 5 років тому

      Susan Hughs z

    • @ewoodrailway
      @ewoodrailway 5 років тому

      Susan Hughs. Now the railway has piss failing driving DOO after destroying our prisons and police. This muppet isn't fit to tie his shoelaces. On ASLEF..the last union this country had as everyone else has folded as the government drive us towards dictatorship. People are conditioned by the bullshit and our Island will drown in the sea around it. Corbyns not ideal but he's for the people unlike the out of touch Tories.

    • @quick46
      @quick46 5 років тому +1

      Prevented from doing "your underpaid job"
      well hard luck you servile sheep, some people wanted better for themselves & didn't want to spend their lives tugging their forelocksEVERY employee right in this country is thanks to worker/union power, the Tories have given you nothing, except the right to buy council house stock they stole from the boroughs to sell to you at knock down prices to make you mortgage slavesYou working class Tories are fucking imbeciles & you don't know your history.

    • @MM-tk9ek
      @MM-tk9ek 5 років тому +1

      So true....miners Scargill overturned their vote to work...and during strike his number two went on holiday..to Spain..

    • @licencedtospill
      @licencedtospill 5 років тому +1

      How do you feel about being unable to spell properly? Teacher's unions, I imagine; nothing to do with you being a lazy little git.

  • @alanhoyle8901
    @alanhoyle8901 6 місяців тому

    Wow!!! What great prime ministers question time far removed from the nonsense we get today. Whether you liked or not she was a good leader and we have no one like her today in any party. What a mess we are in 😪

  • @markjolley3768
    @markjolley3768 5 років тому +6

    What ever you thought of baroness Thatcher!! She would of made mincemeat of juncker Dolores barnier tusk!!!!

  • @oliprj8676
    @oliprj8676 5 років тому +24

    My parents always said they voted for Maggie just because Kinnock would have been an awful PM. 😂

    • @terrychilderley9574
      @terrychilderley9574 Рік тому +1

      Obviously wrong to trust your parents.

    • @chrisholland1504
      @chrisholland1504 Рік тому

      @@terrychilderley9574 Oh yes, he did so much good at the EU. In enriching himself.

  • @gumusluk16
    @gumusluk16 4 роки тому +1

    Poll tax was totally correct, why should a couple pay the same as 5 people living next door in the same kind of house.

  • @ibyghee
    @ibyghee 5 років тому +5

    But let's be honest, the poll tax failed so bad XD . It was a legit failure by Thatcher and there is no arguing in that.

    • @jinnymudlark1815
      @jinnymudlark1815 5 років тому +2

      A mistake. Against so much else that was strong.

    • @ericpreston8877
      @ericpreston8877 Рік тому

      Like what? Bleeding hundreds of thousands of miners and carpenters and electricians to enrich a few thousand City of London lawyers and bankers and accountants?

  • @daniellelomag90
    @daniellelomag90 3 роки тому +1

    This ambient it's like a pub...

  • @raymondwebb4179
    @raymondwebb4179 Рік тому

    She makes my flesh crawl, poll tax was a success ? As it is carrying on now isn’t it? Thatcher was the beginning of the end of fair play and decency in Britain!

  • @AdamBirty
    @AdamBirty 4 роки тому +14

    What's funny is that after all this, when Labour got in post-thatcher they kept the poll tax...
    This just goes to show that all Labour know's how to do is political point score, they haven't been for the working classes for decades.

    • @paulrispin4989
      @paulrispin4989 Рік тому +2

      Huh? What are you on about? Labour got in in 1997. The poll tax was scrapped in 1993.

    • @protium1960
      @protium1960 Рік тому

      What utter bollocks! Thatcher's successor, John Major, abolished the tax when he took office in November 1990. In 1993, the tax was replaced by the council tax, which helped shift some of the tax burden off the poor.

    • @benjaminwilliams2264
      @benjaminwilliams2264 2 місяці тому

      John Major got in in 1992 and replaced the poll tax with council tax a year later. Maybe they should have just stuck with the Rates.

  • @scottmiller4869
    @scottmiller4869 5 років тому +1

    This country would be a better place if Thatcher was in charge none of this I'm offended at this and that bullshit

  • @marksloan4452
    @marksloan4452 5 років тому +3

    The comments here are hilarious and ironic. Regardless of who you might think looked better in that clip, Kinnock was the one proven correct. The Poll Tax (Community Charge) WAS a huge error and WAS abolished in a couple of years and DID lead to the downfall of Thatcher, exactly as Kinnock said.

    • @christinacrimari3543
      @christinacrimari3543 2 роки тому

      Absolutely bloody true, I was a student at the time and was billed with the Poll Tax, I didn't pay it initially and was chased for it, I considered it a complete insult and an outrage!!

  • @ks-on7gg
    @ks-on7gg 5 років тому +14

    nothing changed ,labour still dont have a clue.

  • @Langy24
    @Langy24 Рік тому +1

    Kinnock was, and still is, an absolute and complete plonker.

  • @babygirl10711978
    @babygirl10711978 10 років тому +24

    Nothing like a good hand bagging from Mrs. t

    • @sonofwallacecoyb4744
      @sonofwallacecoyb4744 5 років тому

      babygirl10711978 A bitch of the highest order.

    • @theant9821
      @theant9821 4 роки тому +1

      @@sonofwallacecoyb4744 any bitch is better than a socialist.

  • @malcolmmarshall4371
    @malcolmmarshall4371 4 роки тому +6

    Labour still don’t have a clue in 2020

  • @thetruth156real3
    @thetruth156real3 4 роки тому +1

    Poll tax, a lord in a fifty bedroom house set in 10,000 acres pays less then a single parent in a council house. Yea she was a lovely woman!

  • @Matt-cz6ti
    @Matt-cz6ti 2 роки тому +1

    She’d eviscerate Johnson and his gang of half-wits if she was alive today

  • @garyanthony5292
    @garyanthony5292 Рік тому +1

    Let's be realistic Thatcher in a superhero costume is not the way she will be remembered by those who lived through her capital privatisation and other policies. One of the things she said was that competing energy providers would make everyone's bills cheaper... That never happened!

  • @scudder91
    @scudder91 4 роки тому +1

    The principle of replacing rates was sound in principle, but the pole tax was hated by conservatives as well as labour. I still remember the hapless Tory candidate who was sent to defend it at the ribble valley bi election and was told "ex Tories, that's what we are." The pole tax was hated by nearly everyone.

  • @anthonymagliaro4791
    @anthonymagliaro4791 5 років тому +12

    Madam Thatcher one of the best in the commons, you attacked her at your peril...

  • @peterhawker3958
    @peterhawker3958 12 днів тому

    The day the tories turned on Maggie its been pretty much a steady decline. She had more balls than the rest of them put together

  • @magicwandfour
    @magicwandfour 5 років тому +1

    Ah Maggie- the woman who supported Pol Pott

  • @TCMNoah
    @TCMNoah 3 роки тому +3

    Wasn’t it the poll tax that doomed her?

    • @matthewleitch1
      @matthewleitch1 Рік тому

      It was more the ambitions of her colleagues, increasingly frustrated at not getting their chance as PM. PMs tend not to last much more than two terms in the UK and I think this is one major reason why.

  • @ColHogan-le5yk
    @ColHogan-le5yk 4 роки тому +2

    Honk if Thatcher's dead

  • @reemlsilkworm
    @reemlsilkworm 5 років тому +11

    "The right honourable gentleman never conditions his supplementary questions to my previous replies" 1:42

    • @elspethcoogan1499
      @elspethcoogan1499 4 роки тому +5

      In other words, he doesn’t listen. But MT had a fine way with the English language.

  • @andyharpist2938
    @andyharpist2938 5 років тому +1

    I wonder how he lives with himself really far away from Wales with his five pensions...

  • @miguelmoreira1135
    @miguelmoreira1135 4 роки тому

    This Lady is Trump on heals. What a woman. We need her badly

    • @whiteknightcat
      @whiteknightcat 3 роки тому

      So she's evil, narcissistic, and incompetent? I think not.

  • @AndrewMundellAndrewJMundell
    @AndrewMundellAndrewJMundell 5 років тому +6

    And they still haven't a clue

  • @irnbrubhoy
    @irnbrubhoy 7 років тому +10

    In the end Kinnock was right. It was dropped and it was the beginning of the end for that government

    • @peterh1353
      @peterh1353 7 років тому +3

      Don't understand what some of the commentators are on about. The Poll Tax was her biggest mistake and we all know it - including her own party who stabbed her in the back over it.

    • @marygoodnight8892
      @marygoodnight8892 7 років тому +2

      Yes, I remember having to pay poll tax as a student - outrageous.

  • @stix2you1
    @stix2you1 5 років тому +5

    Kinnock is and was a grade one prat, a totally useless individual and this has handed down to his son. Thatcher was different class, not always right but most certainly head and shoulders above the opposition.

  • @venenareligioest410
    @venenareligioest410 Рік тому

    I do hope it is VERY hot where she is, after all the lives she ruined, all the hard working communities, villages and regions she condemned to ruin!

  • @SteedHiggins
    @SteedHiggins 5 років тому +1

    Interesting that although she wiped the floor with Kinnock, as this was on 6 October 1990, within just 6 weeks she would have resigned as Prime Minister.

    • @serbanandreimarin5988
      @serbanandreimarin5988 4 роки тому

      Backstabed by her own party and against the wishes of the Party members

  • @style-review
    @style-review 5 років тому

    how pathetic is democracy, reduced to a playground toddlers minds battle. Can we get rid of it in mind of 50 years of progress in tech and zero progress in westminster? I am aware of the lack of capitalisation and punctuation

  • @martynhanson
    @martynhanson 5 років тому +1

    Yes, and we now know she was protecting Sir Peter Morrison with his penchant for small boys. Plus, who knows who else as well. Oh, and she loved Jimmy Saville. The Intelligence people must have warned her about him if only for blackmail reasons. I suppose that's good old Victorian values for you.

  • @benjaminwilliams2264
    @benjaminwilliams2264 2 місяці тому +1

    How did the poll tax work out for her? 2 landslides and then a smaller majority for Major. Then 1997.

  • @gregrudd6983
    @gregrudd6983 Рік тому

    If she came up against Paul Keating Margret Thatcher would come off second best. Totally unmatched in parliamentary debate.

  • @goddambitch12
    @goddambitch12 5 років тому +3

    that woman robbed me of my milk at school.thatcher the snacher

  • @Cheka__
    @Cheka__ 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for rupturing my eardrums.

  • @Robby334
    @Robby334 8 років тому +18

    Well it was her downfall was the poll tax .... but she was a great leader sadly gone RIP Lady T.

    • @johnclark3697
      @johnclark3697 6 років тому

      Where exactly is she buried?????

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому

      sadly gone ? bollocks!!! good riddance to the bastard.

    • @pauldavies4496
      @pauldavies4496 5 років тому +1

      good riddance to the bastard.

    • @quick46
      @quick46 5 років тому

      Why, do you need a piss?

  • @steameddumplings616
    @steameddumplings616 3 роки тому +3

    I hope someone makes a Superman intro like this one with my face on it, too, and plays it at my funeral. Best intros ever 🤣

  • @vijayafernando1
    @vijayafernando1 6 років тому +1

    Kinnock is not the labour leader now. Thatcher removed accountability from ALL public services. Now,apart from a few scapegoats ,powerful or even less powerful bodies,carry on like hapless morons. When things go wrong a customer services robot gives you a £5 token. Things have changed .

  • @alexh2947
    @alexh2947 4 роки тому

    Wonderful woman. Hacks like clinton and Warren wouldn't and could never stand up to someone of this calibre

  • @olliebeak131
    @olliebeak131 Рік тому +1

    No "Mr Speaker" before each answer or question.

  • @archielam9651
    @archielam9651 2 місяці тому

    Intro got me dying😂😂😂

  • @marygoodnight8892
    @marygoodnight8892 7 років тому +1

    I love the Thatcher/ Kinnock debates, because their styles are so different. He's not got a bad voice actually.

  • @HopeForestLose
    @HopeForestLose Рік тому +4

    Kinnock was right in every aspect. They had to ditch Thatcher and the Poll Tax not long after.

  • @wilsonfisk6626
    @wilsonfisk6626 2 роки тому +1

    Best at the dispatch box, second to Michael Howard.

  • @stevefowler3398
    @stevefowler3398 6 місяців тому

    Kinnock waffling as ususl.
    Such a great SOCIALIST family....

  • @Firebrand55
    @Firebrand55 Рік тому

    Two Prime Ministers: Margaret Thatcher and Liz Truss......that's like comparing Boudica The Warrior Queen to Anne of Green Gables.

  • @BobK5
    @BobK5 Рік тому +4

    Mr Kinnock was correct, Poll tax was doomed but she couldn’t see it.

    • @joecurran2811
      @joecurran2811 16 днів тому

      I think it was too late at this point. Too late to go back...

  • @aBetterMove
    @aBetterMove 4 роки тому

    A woman without the guile to get through any substantial reforms such as the poll tax, withdrawal from the EU, or the proper reform of the NHS that we still desperately need. That's the one thing Tony Blair had that she didn't, more's the pity.