Love how her dothraki and unsullied slowly respawned more and more each episode after the battle of winterfell to the point were she pretty much had her entire army back. The level of writing that went into S8 ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, agreed. It was incredibe writing...Rewatching some of her clips on YT there were hints of her assinating anyone in her way. I mean, if her army was slaughtered, her "daddy" died for her, she lost 3 babies, treason was committed all around by her "loyal" subjects and how she was about to lose the throne. Tyrion should have been executed as well a long time ago. She wouldn't even eat the food he tried to eat her. I mean, if they kept her army dead she and her dragon would still be more force than Cersei had. The second dragon dying was pure shock entertainment and it would have been better if that one survived as well, so after (or better yet, during) the battle with Cersei we could have gotten a dragon standoff between Jon and Darys and boom, you have your SONG Of ICe AnD fiRe. Even let Arya shoot some of the arrows at Drogon instead of "Jon, this woman is evil kthxbai." Both Jon and Dany started "good" and would be and burning up an entire city for their claim of the throne or Jon maybe trying to stop her without his own casualties. The ending would have made a little more sense. Except for Yara pleading for Daenarys 🤦♂️ It took me 3 minutes to alter a few scenes that would work behind the scenes as well. They really did this show dirty. I guess they kinda forgot about their reputation and the retaliation of the fans. But ya'll FOMO f#ers went ahead and watched House of Dragons anyway even if it was even more stupid than the last two seasons of GoT. They got their viewing numbers. 1 billion idiots for the finale who only confirmed the experiment of getting paid big time with branching out this mess of a franchise. Martin be getting paid, while writing himself in a corner with the books. How are they ever getting finished 😭 I CAn't WaIt fOr the NExT spINOff and sEASON! 🙃
@@stealurcookies Sorry but you're wrong. HOTD is pretty damn well written. Nothings perfect of course and it does have flaws but it's head and shoulders above S7 and S8 in terms of writing / character pay offs etc.
Whatever, Robert was a drunkard and a whoremonger, but the people were much better off when he was king. And damn, it occurs to me that they should have killed Daenerys earlier as Robert had requested.
What's more frustrating is the fact that there is a great ending underneath this all. It's just so damn rushed. The story from the last season should have been spread out over at least 2 full seasons.
yup. brought to you by two fools who just wanted to direct the new star wars movies but didn't want to let anyone else have credit for writing for this show so they turned down offers from HBO for many more seasons just so they could rush to this. my heart still hurts but I am satisfied knowing they nuked their careers and nobody has touched them except for one bad comedy special.
That part is a production error as it’s inversed. His scar on his face is towards the stairs both times. That just makes it worse that they could’ve easily fixed that.
Honestly, i feel bad for the actors. They acted the hell out of every scene, they did what they could, with what they had. They spent years, pouring life into these characters. This scene is stupid, as far as writing goes, but the acting is intense. Imagine what this show could have been, with writers who loved the characters as much as George RR Martin did.
F George. I think half the reason the show runners tied a bow on it so quickly is because they realized he was never ever ever going to finish the books. All the careful work they had all put in for so many years and fatass can't even be bothered to finish the story. I blame him and him alone for any shortcomings in the TV series.
@@boredom2go I blame D&D. There is enough material in the books, for atleast 10 seasons, maybe even up to 13. Seasons 1-4 were great, beacuse they still had the source material, and also George was very much involved during those seasons. Season 5 they had source material, but without George to hold their hand, they couldnt write a decent script to save their lives. Seasons 6-8, no source material, no George, no nothing. Honestly, give the man a break. He is 74 years old, and he has built this huge world, and wrapping it all up, and doing it well, that has to take time. And also, competent writers would have been able to make something atleast decent, without the source material. The truth is, D&D cant write worth a damn, not on their own. The only thing they can do, kind of, is adapt other authors superior stories.
so true. Its like your boss has a really, really bad idea and you are not even able to talk him out because contract says he has ultimate creative freedom so you just try your best to finish it as soon as possible
Im pretty sick of seeing this bullshit. GRRM gave the duo the outline going forward, the bullet points to where his books were going. It was always going to end like this, why the HELL do you think GRRM hasnt released the next book in the series? Why he's dragging his feet? Because he saw the shitshow that was his ideas manifested and is trying his hardest to course correct the plotlines HE HIMSELF laid out. Fucking hell. The creators of a franchise dont always know whats best for said franchise, look no further than George Lucas and his moron ideas about going 'subatomic' for his sequel trilogy about the Whills or whatever.
I watched a video of the cast doing the table read for this episode and when Kit heard that his character would be killing Daenerys, he broke down in tears.
yeah do you imagine hearing tyrion varys baelish dialogues from 1-4 and in 8th dany saying to jon that sansa wants her gone and him on throne...what the hell
They spend 8 seasons endlessly selling us on this idea that she's a genuinely good person only to have her go nuts in the last 3 episodes of the stupid series. Man what a farce this show became.
Try rewatching the show, knowing she's the end villain. You'll pick up on a lot of things that you missed, because the misdirection of her supposedly being a good person was so effective. I called her turning evil in season Two, and all my friends thought I was crazy.
She was always thirsting for power, pretty much. Once she learned how to control Khal Drogo, she was never going to stop wanting more. Everything she did was a means to an end.
Throughout the show her instincts were brutality and retribution. Every time a decision was to be made she chose the most violent and her instincts were only tempered by the people she had around her like Jorah, Ser Barriston and Tyrion. What did you think would happen when she stopped listening to those advisors? While I agree her turn was overtly quick due to poor writing, it was obvious in early seasons that anyone who stood in the way of, or didn't fit into, the idyllic utopia she was trying to create would not be allowed to live. Same as with any dictator.
@@Jacketz123 literally everything else. Pick your poison: Jon's character slaughter, The butchering of Varys and Tyrion's characters, the stupid Night King resolution, Cersei dying in the most unremarkable way possible and the Iron Throne's final seat. Of all the things wrong with the season, Dany's descent into madness made the most sense and was in keeping with the rest of the show. Everything else, not so much.
@@MrGister9999 I feel like her entire ego was about being different to the other rulers, she was a liberator of cities and didn't want to burn shit down.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
I don't buy into the "madness" premise Dany hater peeps are sucking up to. Not unless you agree that all EVIL itself is 100% "madness." Then, eh, I'd agree. (i.e., she gave into evil spirit(s)) Besides, I'd partially blame Tyrion and Jon for not "loving her up/to death" (Jon, erotically/emotionally; Tyrion, giving his best "hand-ship." ) That's the only happy ending here I would write for THE ENDING of G.O.T. (&/or maybe Jon taking his rightful place upon the throne with Dany his Queen. Oooooooh, YEAAAAAH Baby!!!
What? you mean you didn’t like such a radical and out of character twist that went against everything the character stood for and fought for, for…. No reason?
the way her look changes when looking Jon after he watches Tyrion leaves. Jon should have known when seeing that look that she wouldnt have allowed him to stay alive for long.
It’s the reason why Sansa informs the world of who he is. Dany can kill a former king, now subject, a known bastard, easily. But to kill her own family and rightful heir to the throne would turn her into a kin and king slayer. She’d have to rethink. And of course, now people know that there’s a better candidate to the throne. It was a masterful stroke.
@@kdr3619 Wouldn't people knowing who Jon was make him a *bigger* threat in the eyes of Daenerys? Exactly because they might deem him the rightful heir and not her? I'd think it would be incredibly dangerous for him to be seen as a potential obstacle to the throne by her. Also, she could make sure someone else got blamed if she killed him.
@@monmothma3358 Dany already knows Jon is the rightful heir. The fact that she asks him to hide it, is rather villainous on her part. Not to mention insincere, and absolutely selfish. When Sansa sees that Tyrion's fear of Dany, she understands that unless Dany is stopped, Jon and indeed, the entire realm, will always live in constant fear as welll. Revealing who Jon is, sure, might urge Dany to do something she was already planning on doing, BUT, it also ensures, that she does not get away with it. OR it ensures, that Dany holds back from murdering Jon, but then live always with the knowledge that the true heir is alive and is NOT her. Sansa knew Dany would murder Jon. What do you think would have happened when she asks Jon to build her "new world" with her, and he refused? Had he not killed her then, what do you think she would have done? Ensuring the realm knows who the true king is, keeps Jon comparitively safer ... and yet, if Dany does still kill Jon, the world knows her true crime.
After arresting Tyrion, Deneres made a long eye contact with Jon, probably for affirmation of her action, but clearly detected disapproval. And she walked off arrogantly past him--she didn't see how well-meaning and wise were Varis, Tyrion, and Jon. "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely".
Tyrion knew he backed the wrong horse when she burned Varys. Rewatched the whole series it for 2nd time last week. He was one of the best characters in the whole series .
Well, yes he was the number 1 person within the series that actually progressed. He would be number 1 in my book. Jon Snow would be 2nd because killed the Queen of Ashes.
Nah varys was stupid regardless. "I serve the realm" is a bad hill to die on when you are not standing up for innocents starving and getting tortured anyway.
i am wondering if you are brave or self-harming rewatch the whole series while knowing the outcome. For me GoT is the same as Lost - the last season and the finale destroyed it all and their legacy
The way she looked at Tyrion is amazing and proved how good actress she is. The look has a sequence of feelings spoken by eyes without any word. Shock, break after losing someone precious, feeling lost and bare without shield, then finally holding back herself together and act strong. These are all after each other without any word. Hat off!
Agreed. Why does it seem like Emilia is doing just romantic comedies these days? Sure, that fits her real personality, but she was great in this role so different from herself, and proved her acting chops in dramatic roles!
Are we watching the samething. I dont see what was so great about it. Ive seen way way way way better looks actors give. Listen man if it wasnt for the exuberant budget this show would be garbage and you know it
Although season 8 was dreadful there are some parts that shine through like this one. Tyrion showing he has the biggest balls which turns Daenerys's victory bitter. You can see it in her eyes that she recognizes the disappointment in Tyrion's words. At that moment Jon also finally started to grow a spine again.
Really well acted by Emilia, the sadness in her eyes before - in her view - „having to arrest the traitor“, not just a pretty face. Kit, however, well, doing his Kit thing.
For me - there's an interesting dynamic of respect in this scene. Yes, Tyrion committed treason, and he's being arrested. But in someway, because of his years of service, and his previous office, he at least gets to walk of the scene independently. He's not assaulted, or even manhandled away. He knows the moment he loses his freedom, but he gets to retain his dignity, at least for a bit, and frankly, from a position of authority, I imagine that's the best "goodbye" you can give a traitor and/or threat to your power. It makes me think of the Roman general Corbulo's command for suicide by falling on his own sword. A certain fate, but offered with a degree of dignity that might not be offered to the average soldier.
The average soldier can commit suicide any time. In Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, more American soldiers committed suicide than were killed by the "enemy". More American soldiers also died from "friendly fire" than were killed by the "enemy". An unjust "war" was has unjust consequences.
@@johnwattdotca That's a completely different context. Those are men and women who for one reason or another chose death. They weren't considered enemies or a threat. In Corbula's case, he was considered a threat, and essentially sentenced to death, he didn't have the choice to keep living, he got the choice of how he died. Rommel got a similar choice. My whole comment was about someone retaining dignity even when their freedom/life was taken away, not that they chose to sacrifice it. Poor comparison.
@@corbinpearce7686 I appreciate you saying "that's a completely different context" and "poor comparison". That's better than being told I'm off-topic. I understand what you're saying, overall, but it depends on what you consider dignity, and there always is the consideration of dying a good death.
I find it interesting how Dany kept changing colours. At the start, she's a pure, but weak and used innocent girl, so a stained white. Then she changes colours, and is blue, a colour well liked by people and often used for freedom, when she's freeing slaves and overthrowing the masters. She's pure white then later, when she's freeing people and showing benevolence and kindness, when people like Tyrion are joining her because they see a actually good queen in their view. When she gets to Westeros, she's gone for a darker clothes look, showing she's not the same as in Essos, here she's coming with a army to invade, conquer, and here she has many enemies who she wants gone, like Cersei.She starts showing a much darker side, willingly using fire and blood to get her way, using Drogon to bully people into following her, accepting Ellaria's aid even though she killed a innocent child and had her lovers brother and nephew murdered, showing she was losing her morals in pursuit of the throne. When Jon comes, she starts acting more like her pre dragonstone self, even going north of the wall to save him showing real selflesness and bravery, and accepts to aid him without him bending the knee first( he did so after she agreed she would help him against the others).So she comes then to the North as a ally, having come to help with good intentions, so appears in snowy white, but then we see her darker side coming back when faced with the fact the North doesn't like her that much. But then after the battle at winterfell, she reverts to very dark colours, and once Missandei dies her clothes stay dark, and when Tyrion sees her there, clad in pure black clothes, queen of the ashes, over a city she ruthlessly and unecessarily as they surrendered before she attacked burned to the ground, with a army of black clad spear men, he realises she's not Dany, she's become the mad kings golden daughter.You notice through the seasons when her clothes darken her advisors become more and more nervous and unnerved with her, especially in Dragonstone where you can tell they worry she's going to think of the cities like Mereen or Astapor, that brute force is the only way to go.When she burns Varys, Jon and Tyrion are both shocked and begin to realise just how bad it is, because she's doing just like the mad king. When Tyrion looks at her on the steps, he is heartbroken that the person who seemed so good, so better then Cersei, who wanted advisors and would listen to them most of the times, who wanted to be better then her legacy, has become just like every other bad targaryen ruler, a tyrant who listens to none and does whatever they want, only believing in fire and blood to be the way.
I would have loved to see some of the Unsullied desert her after realizing she is just as bad as their former masters, perhaps worse. It would have hurt Daenerys more to realize that the soldiers who followed her to hell and back faithfully and loyally were starting to have second doubts about their devotion to her.
Only just noticed that Tyrion walks out of the ruined city he is on Dany's left, but all the shots after he throws the badge away he's standing on her right.
Emilia Clark’s acting is spot on in this scene and powerful the entire series. I don’t understand how she was so fantastic in this and very meh in Solo and most of her other projects.
@@seansullivan7928 I’m not sure how the budget will effect someone’s acting ability. There are some terrible performances in high budget movies and some fantastic performances in lower budget movies…
Just hear me out. Jon Snow is just as responsible as Dany for the destination of king's landing. His weak short sighted nature allowed Dany to seize his birthright. *Yes we know she has Drogon..but the seven kingdoms would've backed him.
I think it started to turn to dogshit during season 5. That's when they ran out of books to adapt, and just winged it until the terrible end. 5, 6 were bad, 7 was worse, and nothing compares to how bad 8 was. Astonishingly terrible.
@@hollowpointgaming6097 Elements of season 5 and 6 were good, but there was a lot of bad. The Stannis arc, for example? Trash. Tyrion's arc after he kills his father? Trash. I could go on, but I know what I know.
There was literally no reason for her to burn the city, she could’ve burned the red keep only to kill Cersei and every Lanister servant and everyone would’ve been happy about it, but no, they had to ruin her and ruin the show.
+@Luison40 I'm sorry she didn't go in the direction you wanted. The madness took her, and the all-loving purity sue slowly became as corrupt and evil as those she opposed. Or did you forget this was a dark fantasy show and not some Good vs Evil kids show?
@@RecklessFire29 There was no lead up to the madness and they spent the first 6 seasons building up her character to be "different" from her father. Its not like she had random bouts of cruelty here and there to plant a seed of doubt of whether or not she really was mad. It just happened in one day. Tywin was a piece of shit but he didn't randomly slaughter innocent people because that just isn't smart, there's no purpose to it, wastes valuable resources for no reason. There's a difference between dark and gritty and just comic book levels of villainy like the last season Dany.
@@robins2819 Ah yes. Watching as your brother's face is covered in melted gold is totally what a well-adjusted person does. Add her trauma conga line through the series, seeing that her dragons can be defeated rather than a safe, ultimate deterrent, and finally falling into the idea that might makes right if it's for "the right reasons", and well... yeah. Sorry, but your purity sue couldn't survive the grimdark Game of Thrones. She eventually fell into it just as all do. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@RecklessFire29 Not here is saying "we want daenerys to remain pure". Its literally the exact opposite. We wanted the writers to SHOW US her decline to insanity. Just deciding she's insane the next day because they wanted to rush the story out is unfulfilling after being invested in the story.
No I don't think so. The moment when he realized he should kill her was the time when he talked to Tyrion in the dungeon. Tyrion warned Jon that if Dany comes in power, her sisters would not accept her as their queen (as they wanted North to be Independent).
Honestly the best thing Tyrion did as her hand was resigning, I can’t think of a single benefit Tyrion’s council had given her not one. Not even a minor one, are there any? Every action he took (intentional or otherwise) was to Danny’s detriment
Few episodes before "youre not different, youre just more of the same" End episode "like father, like daughter, end in the hands of its loyal subjects"
@@JannyPwns mass effect retained its dialogue and general plot structure quality to the end in my opinion. None of the endings are satisfactory but at least when it comes to the parts that matter (other than the ending), me3 delivers. I'd say in contrast, GoT starts "going bad" almost as early as season 5.
I cant believe no one has mencioned this! If you look closely, at first he is on her left and on the next scene he just appears on her right like my man just teleported....
There have been hints of the character's cruelty and insanity throughout the series. She constantly burned people alive and in one occasion sealed two people in a vault to either suffocate or starve to death.
True and utter chills this gives me, tyrion was right in his choice, but khaleesi who I stood by since episode one, and touched inopropitly by her brother to go mad queen makes me want to cry and scream at the show in frustration. Long live Tyrion.❤️
You do remember this is the same town people that laughed and cheered during Starks execution. That put aside, she was fueled by anger and grief. She lost Jorah and then her best friend... who commanded them to burn. I would've done the same
@@tezz2698 no Cersi had it coming a very long time ago, it was beautiful ending for her and regardless it was always this ending for danerys. I love her but this was always how it would end, even the author said so
Tyrion's advices lead Daenerys forces into ambush many times. And Daenerys actually suspected that he might not be just an idiot, but a traitor and Cersei's spy. This could also explain why she was triggered by the sound of bells for she believed the surrender was a trick by Tyrion conspiring with Cersei.Especially if Dany had received a message from her unsullied that Tyrion freed Jaime and they both supposedly defected to Cersei exactly the moment when she was about to fly to battle.And she actually heard a voice from the city:"Queen we are surrounded! Queen help us!", which could be misunderstood for a distress signal from her own troops. So she decided to bombard area ahead her troops to protect them from whatever trap could be. This caused explosions of Aerys's wildfire which she recognized as if it was wildfire trap indeed (pseudo wildfire trap theory). And she would genuinly believe that she indeed liberated the city from a tyrant destroying it with wildfire. Then Daenerys arrests Tyrion for espionage "staring at him with anger, disgusted that she trusted him so deeply for so long" according to the script. Ironically Daenerys slaughtered a city only because Tyrion freed his brother. Just like invasion of White Walkers happened only because Tyrion wanted to use the White Walkers as a case for parley with Cersei! Daenerys was never mad! Drogon took Daenerys body east towards Volantis. Towards nearest red priestess. Daenerys is resurrected by a red priestess. First she learns how to fight with a sword. Tyrion Lannister and Jon Snow will die by her hand! Revenge and Justice! Kill Bill Targaryen style.
Throughout the show, you only see the superficial signs of temporal anger. A child with dragons that tries to manage her emotions and leader qualities for 8 seasons. In the book, she starts age 13. Saying in season 2 she'll burn Qarth to the ground and in her last speech adding it to her list creates a very funny headcanon of always having at her back of the mind, that when her dragons will grow and she starts her killing spree, she'll pay them a visit. That is funny at best. They didn't put the work. The theme of her not having enough bloodshed after so much loss sounds like a good idea, but it would fit any other Targaryen but not her. Methodically killing every line of houses for hours didn't seem like a possible outcome from the woman who gave water to the dying crucified man or watching "every single one of them" child's faces until Meereen. If they wanted to be realistically cliché (something that inevitably happend at the end), due to her power hungry "madness" she would have burned Winterfel the moment she could see Sansa was playing the game and refused to kneel. She wasn't going to keep a notebook of beloved main characters D and D and the people liked, with the name: List of people I'll kill earlier: Sansa. Tyrion. Jon if he continues to act that way. Ps. Varys died from spoiling the end of the show when even she had no idea of what she wanted to do. He saw the stars and decided that the man who died one season after being a Commander (just like Ned died after one season of politics) would hold himself fine as a King.
Instead of leaving to atleast try to find safety somewhere, he walked back to tell fantasy hitler he committed treason. It's amazing people defend this season.
I started Game of Thrones in January & I just finished the series a few weeks ago! I loved it & didn't think season 8 was that bad. It had it's fault but I didn't hate it
I really don’t see the books ending like this. I mean the books are clearly about Fantasy and the series inclines more for the drama like a telenovela. The only thing from the series that I really think its going to happen also in the books is the Starks winning I think thats kinda obvious since they are the protagonist.
The people who say she lost her mind the last 3 episodes ignore the cruelty she inflicted on various people from early on. She had men burned alive for refusing to kneel to her. She crucified or burned many people in lots of places. Nothing honorable or good about her, just a tyrant from early on. Anyone who announces themselves with 6 titles is obviously full of themselves.
That look she gives jon, she really became terrifying at the end. He would only be allowed to live as long as he did as his told basically. Dany wouldn't hesitate to do same to Jon as she did to many, burn him.
I understand the way Tyrion feels right now, he warned her to not take the short path of fire and blood for all that time when he was her hand, all for her to ignore it on a whim out of anger and burn a city to ash and melt parts if the red keep. The level of betrayal he must feel must be painful.
There's literally just as many Unsullied in this scene as there were when she bought them lol. Apparently every single soldier has died and come back to life at least three times.
“I accept your resignation and I am not going to kill you even though my blood and fire wrath is up with the ashes of this city. We must torment you with due process and a trial.” Tyrion- “D’ohhhhhhhh”
Me thinks G R R Martin is disheartened by the reception of the ending, and is either stalling the book or he is hoping he passes before having to finish it, because he did tell D&D the end, just not how he got there. I feel people are angry at the ending, and people will be angry at george when it is confirmed. It was the condensing of the plot that killed the series, they needed to set up this 'love story over a season and half, maybe 2, not bodge it in two episodes. Didn't buy it one bit, so Jon becoming a simp and dense because of 'his quweeeen' in about 3 episode arc, and turning a blind eye was completely out of character. it would have been better if they had established him manipulating, or faking it.
I always see Dany's sanity as a progress bar. At 0% she is completely sane and at 100% she is fully mad. Before the start of those 3 episodes she was at like 40-50%. Then she gradually got more mad but at same time she wasn't near 100% yet but more like at 65-70%. So they leapt the final third with a snap of a finger.
I feel that she was always this person, the signs were there all along. Season 8 just gave life to her true nature, it was always going to end like this. I doubt the ending in the books (once finished) will be too much different.
Tyrion learned to teleport from Daenery’s left 0:50 to her right 1:16 Just another plot line D&D forgot to develop or they forgot how to shoot a scene all together
The truth is Tyrion should have put her down when varys suggested it. Think about it he would have claimed the title his brother had as king Slayer. He would have saved his friends life. His brother's life his sister's life they're unborn baby's life. And saved Jon Snow from taking one for the team. He would have ruled after her and been merciful to Jamie and Cersei. Tyrion would have more unlikely been a part of the Night's Watch for executing his Queen. He failed to do with his brother had to do.
@@MrClebophd he would have at least insured she had a fair trial. If he is unsettled with the fact that Daenerys men are executing Lannisters in the streets then I have no doubt in my mind he would have spared Cersei. Especially with the way he begged Dany to forgive them.
I don't understand why everyone hates this ending so bad. She massacred every foe to date, including burning people locked in a building. Her best friend was murdered right in front of her. Her surrogate father died fighting zombies or whatever. Her entire motive for living was just upended when she found out the man she loves is the rightful heir to the throne. She knows she will probably have to execute that man's sister for treason. Two of her dragons are dead, which she thinks of as her children. And she's the product of a father and mother who were brother and sister- clearly one step from madness her entire life. This is exactly how it had to end. It sucks that Jon had to leave, and king Bran is truly stupid, though I have a feeling that will be rectified in the new Jon Snow series. I re-watched the season four times now and it makes total sense- after about the third time around....
No one really objected to Denarys going nuts. But there was a bunch of poor writing and stupid behavior and lazy effects and plot holes all around it that made it so glaringly bad.
Agree. Didn’t feel bad for the city at all. It was same city which was happy calling Ned traitor n saw him his head being cut off. Also Tyrian was honestly trying to save his brother n sister n wanted them to live free even though they did everythng bad n killed the innocent since the first episode. He was such a hippocrite dwarf for me. Letting his sister n bro live alive n sacrifice Danny by calling her mad king daughter n bla bla
Oh, now he wants to resign from his position⁉️ After he already f*cked up everything for Daenerys and her allies⁉️ HIS plan for taking KL would've been far worse on the smallfolk, and judging by what KL looked like in the ending of the show... she didn't do much harm
Even KIt Harington knew he had no agency in this scene, look at his face. The performance that we got was in the moment, disappointed, bored, out of it, and his character irrelevant. So both the character and the actor knew the only saving grace would be to kill her.
Tragic can be used for the ending of this series. These writers had perhaps the best all time collection of actors that has ever been assembled for such a huge series as GOT, and they were not in their class. In my opinion, it feel off the rails as soon as they took it over.
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It’s staggering how many people missed the social commentary of the ending. This isn’t a “descent into madness” It’s a human being doing what humans beings do in positions of power.
@@Anukii i respectfully disagree. i mean, maybe it could have worked if her deccent into madness was drawn out over several seasons. but one of the best things about her, especially earl on in the story, was her love of the common people, the outcasts, the leftovers, the slaves, the weak/sick, he poor. she reiterated several times over that she never wanted to be "queen of the ashes". and yet that's exactly what she became. the only scenario i could buy her decent into madness would be a scenario where every single one of her followers betrays her in order to play the game of thrones (not betraying her because she's a lunatic, but betraying her to further their own cause)
@@jeffreyv8306 Thing is as much as we saw her compassion, we also saw her savagery. In fact, she made true one of the threats she made against folk who wouldn't let her into a city in the first season, in the final season. Dany was absolutely not against mad violence; never was. The show only portrayed it as good because the audience is supposed to be on her side at the time. I do agree that the descent needed to be better portrayed and longer. The sudden shift was eyerolling.
I believe there were a few factors that led to this shows decline, and it's not fair to lay all of the blame on D&D. Yes, they rushed it to move on to other projects and should take part of the blame because of that, but not all of it. Money, I think ruined it a bit. In the earlier seasons there was less money. So much so that we didn't get to see any big battles. The little bits of action we saw were some 1v1 or groups smaller than 20 or so men fighting. This meant that all the focus was on the script and acting. In later seasons we saw epic battles such as the battle of the bastards, the Loot train and the Long night. When the focus is on action, it draws focus away from the aspects that made this show so successful in the first place. This was never a show about battles, hell it wasn't even a show about dragons. It was an unpredictable political drama, and that's what drew many of us to it. And as unpopular as this will probably be, some of the blame has to go to GRRM. He kinda hung D&D out to dry by dragging his heels on this. It feels like he was struggling to finish the story, tying up all of the story arcs of all the characters, and reach a satisfactory conclusion. He's a great world builder, but he goes off on so many tangents, perhaps he doesn't know what to do with them all, so instead of trying to finish it, he left it knowing that D&D would be forced into improvising the final seasons, knowing it could never live up to the standard. The sad thing is, I don't think he will ever finish the story
I think they all hoped she would have a change of heart once the war with the white walkers was over and once Cersei would surrender they all wanted that and hoped that would be the end of it she would move on but they all knew seeing that she would take everyone and everything Tyrion seen this when he found his brother and sister killed he knew at that moment it would never end there
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Love how her dothraki and unsullied slowly respawned more and more each episode after the battle of winterfell to the point were she pretty much had her entire army back.
The level of writing that went into S8 ladies and gentlemen.
Hot garbage.
Yeah, agreed. It was incredibe writing...Rewatching some of her clips on YT there were hints of her assinating anyone in her way. I mean, if her army was slaughtered, her "daddy" died for her, she lost 3 babies, treason was committed all around by her "loyal" subjects and how she was about to lose the throne. Tyrion should have been executed as well a long time ago. She wouldn't even eat the food he tried to eat her. I mean, if they kept her army dead she and her dragon would still be more force than Cersei had. The second dragon dying was pure shock entertainment and it would have been better if that one survived as well, so after (or better yet, during) the battle with Cersei we could have gotten a dragon standoff between Jon and Darys and boom, you have your SONG Of ICe AnD fiRe. Even let Arya shoot some of the arrows at Drogon instead of "Jon, this woman is evil kthxbai." Both Jon and Dany started "good" and would be and burning up an entire city for their claim of the throne or Jon maybe trying to stop her without his own casualties. The ending would have made a little more sense. Except for Yara pleading for Daenarys 🤦♂️
It took me 3 minutes to alter a few scenes that would work behind the scenes as well. They really did this show dirty. I guess they kinda forgot about their reputation and the retaliation of the fans.
But ya'll FOMO f#ers went ahead and watched House of Dragons anyway even if it was even more stupid than the last two seasons of GoT. They got their viewing numbers. 1 billion idiots for the finale who only confirmed the experiment of getting paid big time with branching out this mess of a franchise. Martin be getting paid, while writing himself in a corner with the books. How are they ever getting finished 😭
I CAn't WaIt fOr the NExT spINOff and sEASON! 🙃
@@stealurcookies You think house of the dragon is dumber than the last two seasons of GOT?
@@MrJoshspo0ngrez I do. There are multiple review (video's) here backing that claim so I dared to make it. Wanna epic dragon fight together? 😋
@@stealurcookies Sorry but you're wrong. HOTD is pretty damn well written. Nothings perfect of course and it does have flaws but it's head and shoulders above S7 and S8 in terms of writing / character pay offs etc.
Out of everyone who sat on the throne in the show who would have guessed that Robert would have turned out to be the best King/Queen
I would’ve. He’s a fat, foul-mouthed yet hilarious drunkard. And he slapped Cersei before it was cool. What’s not to love?
Whatever, Robert was a drunkard and a whoremonger, but the people were much better off when he was king. And damn, it occurs to me that they should have killed Daenerys earlier as Robert had requested.
True. He ruled for 17 years with peace.
i believe king tommen wouldve been a good ruler as well with margery
@@madeonearth3429 no he let some crazy religious fanatics take over his city
This feels like an alternate universe parody the more time passes.
Sort of like a What If show for Game Of Thrones.
What's more frustrating is the fact that there is a great ending underneath this all. It's just so damn rushed. The story from the last season should have been spread out over at least 2 full seasons.
yup. brought to you by two fools who just wanted to direct the new star wars movies but didn't want to let anyone else have credit for writing for this show so they turned down offers from HBO for many more seasons just so they could rush to this. my heart still hurts but I am satisfied knowing they nuked their careers and nobody has touched them except for one bad comedy special.
It's amazing how she and Tyrion switched positions without moving.
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Holy shit, you're right! Tyrion was to her left before! 🤦♂️
The entirety of season 8 was in the spirit of "alright people, let's wrap this up as soon as possible, got a plane to catch".
I just rewatched GOT in Max and Tyrion was on her right, and threw the Hand pin to the right. Maybe they fixed it on postedition
That part is a production error as it’s inversed. His scar on his face is towards the stairs both times. That just makes it worse that they could’ve easily fixed that.
Because this is cheap version of the original scene. In the real scene, Tyrion always stands right to Dany. Check any other video about this scene.
Honestly, i feel bad for the actors. They acted the hell out of every scene, they did what they could, with what they had. They spent years, pouring life into these characters. This scene is stupid, as far as writing goes, but the acting is intense. Imagine what this show could have been, with writers who loved the characters as much as George RR Martin did.
F George. I think half the reason the show runners tied a bow on it so quickly is because they realized he was never ever ever going to finish the books. All the careful work they had all put in for so many years and fatass can't even be bothered to finish the story. I blame him and him alone for any shortcomings in the TV series.
@@boredom2go I blame D&D. There is enough material in the books, for atleast 10 seasons, maybe even up to 13. Seasons 1-4 were great, beacuse they still had the source material, and also George was very much involved during those seasons. Season 5 they had source material, but without George to hold their hand, they couldnt write a decent script to save their lives. Seasons 6-8, no source material, no George, no nothing. Honestly, give the man a break. He is 74 years old, and he has built this huge world, and wrapping it all up, and doing it well, that has to take time. And also, competent writers would have been able to make something atleast decent, without the source material. The truth is, D&D cant write worth a damn, not on their own. The only thing they can do, kind of, is adapt other authors superior stories.
so true. Its like your boss has a really, really bad idea and you are not even able to talk him out because contract says he has ultimate creative freedom so you just try your best to finish it as soon as possible
Im pretty sick of seeing this bullshit. GRRM gave the duo the outline going forward, the bullet points to where his books were going. It was always going to end like this, why the HELL do you think GRRM hasnt released the next book in the series? Why he's dragging his feet? Because he saw the shitshow that was his ideas manifested and is trying his hardest to course correct the plotlines HE HIMSELF laid out.
Fucking hell. The creators of a franchise dont always know whats best for said franchise, look no further than George Lucas and his moron ideas about going 'subatomic' for his sequel trilogy about the Whills or whatever.
I watched a video of the cast doing the table read for this episode and when Kit heard that his character would be killing Daenerys, he broke down in tears.
The script was bullshit but you gotta admit the acting and soundtrack is amazing.
Thats what i keep saying everything was good until Jon kept saying “ i dont wunnna it the throne” 🙄
Like getting a gift in a beautiful wrapping, from a lovely lady.. does'nt help if when you open it's dogshit
@@kingcarisma Just like a shit-sprinkled sundae. It's a sundae but there's still shit on it.
There was no lack of production value, but the foundation was a cesspool.
yeah do you imagine hearing tyrion varys baelish dialogues from 1-4 and in 8th dany saying to jon that sansa wants her gone and him on throne...what the hell
Just me or did the Unsullied army seem to grow larger after each battle?
Kill one, ten respawn. The Dothraki follow a similar rule.
They sacrificed the plot to r'hllor for those men. Very sneaky.
So did the pile of sausages
They have nothing to "grow larger"
Must've been the testosterone kicking in.....oh wait.....!?
They spend 8 seasons endlessly selling us on this idea that she's a genuinely good person only to have her go nuts in the last 3 episodes of the stupid series. Man what a farce this show became.
Try rewatching the show, knowing she's the end villain. You'll pick up on a lot of things that you missed, because the misdirection of her supposedly being a good person was so effective. I called her turning evil in season Two, and all my friends thought I was crazy.
No, she was pretty evil most of the show, everything she did was for glory and power.
She was always thirsting for power, pretty much. Once she learned how to control Khal Drogo, she was never going to stop wanting more. Everything she did was a means to an end.
@@samsthemank There are things the Book put in there. The show watered down a lot of the things she did bad, and emphasized a lot more of the good.
Throughout the show her instincts were brutality and retribution. Every time a decision was to be made she chose the most violent and her instincts were only tempered by the people she had around her like Jorah, Ser Barriston and Tyrion. What did you think would happen when she stopped listening to those advisors?
While I agree her turn was overtly quick due to poor writing, it was obvious in early seasons that anyone who stood in the way of, or didn't fit into, the idyllic utopia she was trying to create would not be allowed to live. Same as with any dictator.
Ah yes, when she loses her mind in the space of 3 episodes.
Less time than it takes them to travel from city to city mind you.
as ilogical as her outburst was, there was defenitely a build up the entire show of her growing her ego and becoming more violent.
@@MrGister9999 what didn’t everyone like about the finale then?
@@Jacketz123 literally everything else. Pick your poison: Jon's character slaughter, The butchering of Varys and Tyrion's characters, the stupid Night King resolution, Cersei dying in the most unremarkable way possible and the Iron Throne's final seat. Of all the things wrong with the season, Dany's descent into madness made the most sense and was in keeping with the rest of the show. Everything else, not so much.
@@MrGister9999 I feel like her entire ego was about being different to the other rulers, she was a liberator of cities and didn't want to burn shit down.
@@atharvadeshpande6907 her descent into madness maybe, the timescale of which it occurred, I disagree.
Tyrions look towards John says it all
“This beautiful bitch has got to go
Avenge me snow!! “😂😂
Yeah but then he craps it with, ".....ask me in 10 yrs."
But "ShE iS mY QUeeN". D
I'd say the look is, "Will you be next, or later?"
Grey Worm should have executed Tyrion when he meet Daenerys Targaryen in Meereen
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
Its not madness, its power thirst and tyranny. Throughout the show, there were many signs of her entitlement and self-absorption.
I don't buy into the "madness" premise Dany hater peeps are sucking up to. Not unless you agree that all EVIL itself is 100% "madness." Then, eh, I'd agree.
(i.e., she gave into evil spirit(s))
Besides, I'd partially blame Tyrion and Jon for not "loving her up/to death" (Jon, erotically/emotionally; Tyrion, giving his best "hand-ship." ) That's the only happy ending here I would write for THE ENDING of G.O.T. (&/or maybe Jon taking his rightful place upon the throne with Dany his Queen. Oooooooh, YEAAAAAH Baby!!!
They did dedicate the whole season to it, and most of the other seasons too, you just weren't paying attention.
What? you mean you didn’t like such a radical and out of character twist that went against everything the character stood for and fought for, for…. No reason?
@@FerretJohn Nah, I wasn't not paying attention, I just never saw the show to begin with lol.
the way her look changes when looking Jon after he watches Tyrion leaves. Jon should have known when seeing that look that she wouldnt have allowed him to stay alive for long.
It’s the reason why Sansa informs the world of who he is.
Dany can kill a former king, now subject, a known bastard, easily.
But to kill her own family and rightful heir to the throne would turn her into a kin and king slayer. She’d have to rethink.
And of course, now people know that there’s a better candidate to the throne.
It was a masterful stroke.
@@kdr3619 Wouldn't people knowing who Jon was make him a *bigger* threat in the eyes of Daenerys? Exactly because they might deem him the rightful heir and not her? I'd think it would be incredibly dangerous for him to be seen as a potential obstacle to the throne by her. Also, she could make sure someone else got blamed if she killed him.
@@monmothma3358 Dany already knows Jon is the rightful heir. The fact that she asks him to hide it, is rather villainous on her part. Not to mention insincere, and absolutely selfish.
When Sansa sees that Tyrion's fear of Dany, she understands that unless Dany is stopped, Jon and indeed, the entire realm, will always live in constant fear as welll.
Revealing who Jon is, sure, might urge Dany to do something she was already planning on doing, BUT, it also ensures, that she does not get away with it. OR it ensures, that Dany holds back from murdering Jon, but then live always with the knowledge that the true heir is alive and is NOT her.
Sansa knew Dany would murder Jon. What do you think would have happened when she asks Jon to build her "new world" with her, and he refused? Had he not killed her then, what do you think she would have done?
Ensuring the realm knows who the true king is, keeps Jon comparitively safer ... and yet, if Dany does still kill Jon, the world knows her true crime.
After arresting Tyrion, Deneres made a long eye contact with Jon, probably for affirmation of her action, but clearly detected disapproval. And she walked off arrogantly past him--she didn't see how well-meaning and wise were Varis, Tyrion, and Jon. "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely".
"D&D destroy absolutely"
Tyrion knew he backed the wrong horse when she burned Varys. Rewatched the whole series it for 2nd time last week. He was one of the best characters in the whole series .
I'm watching it for the 1st time. On S2.. kinda don't like her.. she seem to change after her hubby died. Very demanding and felt entitled after that.
Well, yes he was the number 1 person within the series that actually progressed. He would be number 1 in my book. Jon Snow would be 2nd because killed the Queen of Ashes.
Nah varys was stupid regardless. "I serve the realm" is a bad hill to die on when you are not standing up for innocents starving and getting tortured anyway.
i am wondering if you are brave or self-harming rewatch the whole series while knowing the outcome. For me GoT is the same as Lost - the last season and the finale destroyed it all and their legacy
@@MyBrainGlows
I actually liked the LOST finale, but GOT made me not want to watch the series again.
Despite the subpar writing, Emilia and Peter were superb. The emotions behind the words told the story.
I think everyone's acting fell off after they read the final script. none of them had the heart for it anymore
The way she looked at Tyrion is amazing and proved how good actress she is.
The look has a sequence of feelings spoken by eyes without any word. Shock, break after losing someone precious, feeling lost and bare without shield, then finally holding back herself together and act strong. These are all after each other without any word. Hat off!
she looked like she sniffed a fart LMFAOOOO
Agreed. Why does it seem like Emilia is doing just romantic comedies these days? Sure, that fits her real personality, but she was great in this role so different from herself, and proved her acting chops in dramatic roles!
Are we watching the samething. I dont see what was so great about it. Ive seen way way way way better looks actors give. Listen man if it wasnt for the exuberant budget this show would be garbage and you know it
Nah. the kid that played Jofferey did a way better job than the actress that played Danny, Queen of Ashes.
Agreed. The acting was great all around, and the production values were high too. It was all wasted on the poor script, however.
The moment Jon Snow realised, that the smallest man in Westeros has the biggest balls.
Although season 8 was dreadful there are some parts that shine through like this one. Tyrion showing he has the biggest balls which turns Daenerys's victory bitter. You can see it in her eyes that she recognizes the disappointment in Tyrion's words. At that moment Jon also finally started to grow a spine again.
The actors still did their jobs. They were still great despite the burning crap sandwich they were given to work with.
Really well acted by Emilia, the sadness in her eyes before - in her view - „having to arrest the traitor“, not just a pretty face. Kit, however, well, doing his Kit thing.
LMAOOO Kit doesn't have a huge variety of expressions...
She sad because they ruined her character arc.
Kit was doing well until the seventh season. Then they had him acting as a lovesick man unable to make decisions or think.
She's my queen!
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For me - there's an interesting dynamic of respect in this scene. Yes, Tyrion committed treason, and he's being arrested. But in someway, because of his years of service, and his previous office, he at least gets to walk of the scene independently. He's not assaulted, or even manhandled away. He knows the moment he loses his freedom, but he gets to retain his dignity, at least for a bit, and frankly, from a position of authority, I imagine that's the best "goodbye" you can give a traitor and/or threat to your power. It makes me think of the Roman general Corbulo's command for suicide by falling on his own sword. A certain fate, but offered with a degree of dignity that might not be offered to the average soldier.
The average soldier can commit suicide any time. In Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, more American
soldiers committed suicide than were killed by the "enemy". More American soldiers also died
from "friendly fire" than were killed by the "enemy". An unjust "war" was has unjust consequences.
@@johnwattdotca That's a completely different context. Those are men and women who for one reason or another chose death. They weren't considered enemies or a threat. In Corbula's case, he was considered a threat, and essentially sentenced to death, he didn't have the choice to keep living, he got the choice of how he died. Rommel got a similar choice. My whole comment was about someone retaining dignity even when their freedom/life was taken away, not that they chose to sacrifice it. Poor comparison.
@@corbinpearce7686 I appreciate you saying "that's a completely different context" and "poor comparison". That's better than being told I'm off-topic. I understand what you're saying, overall, but it depends on what you consider dignity, and there always is the consideration of dying a good death.
lol no its cuz of his size
Not to mention he must have been extremely exhausted and disappointed. He kinda had this ‘eff it’ look on his face.
I find it interesting how Dany kept changing colours. At the start, she's a pure, but weak and used innocent girl, so a stained white. Then she changes colours, and is blue, a colour well liked by people and often used for freedom, when she's freeing slaves and overthrowing the masters. She's pure white then later, when she's freeing people and showing benevolence and kindness, when people like Tyrion are joining her because they see a actually good queen in their view. When she gets to Westeros, she's gone for a darker clothes look, showing she's not the same as in Essos, here she's coming with a army to invade, conquer, and here she has many enemies who she wants gone, like Cersei.She starts showing a much darker side, willingly using fire and blood to get her way, using Drogon to bully people into following her, accepting Ellaria's aid even though she killed a innocent child and had her lovers brother and nephew murdered, showing she was losing her morals in pursuit of the throne. When Jon comes, she starts acting more like her pre dragonstone self, even going north of the wall to save him showing real selflesness and bravery, and accepts to aid him without him bending the knee first( he did so after she agreed she would help him against the others).So she comes then to the North as a ally, having come to help with good intentions, so appears in snowy white, but then we see her darker side coming back when faced with the fact the North doesn't like her that much. But then after the battle at winterfell, she reverts to very dark colours, and once Missandei dies her clothes stay dark, and when Tyrion sees her there, clad in pure black clothes, queen of the ashes, over a city she ruthlessly and unecessarily as they surrendered before she attacked burned to the ground, with a army of black clad spear men, he realises she's not Dany, she's become the mad kings golden daughter.You notice through the seasons when her clothes darken her advisors become more and more nervous and unnerved with her, especially in Dragonstone where you can tell they worry she's going to think of the cities like Mereen or Astapor, that brute force is the only way to go.When she burns Varys, Jon and Tyrion are both shocked and begin to realise just how bad it is, because she's doing just like the mad king. When Tyrion looks at her on the steps, he is heartbroken that the person who seemed so good, so better then Cersei, who wanted advisors and would listen to them most of the times, who wanted to be better then her legacy, has become just like every other bad targaryen ruler, a tyrant who listens to none and does whatever they want, only believing in fire and blood to be the way.
That was a great and deep analysis.
Blocks of texts are hard to read.
Another time, one idea per paragraph, a black line between paragraphs. "White space" gives the eyes rest.
Great observations and insights. Loved reading it
Bravo Vince
She was a tyrant
I would have loved to see some of the Unsullied desert her after realizing she is just as bad as their former masters, perhaps worse. It would have hurt Daenerys more to realize that the soldiers who followed her to hell and back faithfully and loyally were starting to have second doubts about their devotion to her.
The thing is Daenerys was always nice to the unsullied. To the unsullied, Daenerys was the best leader that they had. They wouldn’t desert her.
The unsullied don’t seem to care about the common people, but about how their master treats them.
Only just noticed that Tyrion walks out of the ruined city he is on Dany's left, but all the shots after he throws the badge away he's standing on her right.
Emilia Clark’s acting is spot on in this scene and powerful the entire series. I don’t understand how she was so fantastic in this and very meh in Solo and most of her other projects.
That’s because she IS Daenerys Targaryen
@@goldenlotus3046 that’s funny I thought she seemed like a nice decent person and not a homicidal maniac 🤷♀️
Because if it wasnt for the budget this show would be absolutely garbage
@@seansullivan7928 I’m not sure how the budget will effect someone’s acting ability. There are some terrible performances in high budget movies and some fantastic performances in lower budget movies…
She’s fucking hot as hell. That’s all that matters
Just hear me out. Jon Snow is just as responsible as Dany for the destination of king's landing. His weak short sighted nature allowed Dany to seize his birthright.
*Yes we know she has Drogon..but the seven kingdoms would've backed him.
Then Drogon would have snacked him.
He didn't want it. Muh queen
@@michaelnavarro964 LOL
he didn’t wunt it
"It was at that moment, he knew...she f&*%# up"
It’s sad how quickly this show went downhill
Just going back and watching up to season 6
Then 7 and 8 we’re just a downward spiral
I think it started to turn to dogshit during season 5. That's when they ran out of books to adapt, and just winged it until the terrible end. 5, 6 were bad, 7 was worse, and nothing compares to how bad 8 was. Astonishingly terrible.
For me S8 ruined the show so much I can’t ever start to rewatch. I used to rewatch before every new season before…
@@leeham6230you probably didn’t read the books to say this they just literally didn’t adapte at all book 4 and 5
@@leeham6230I disagree season 5 and 6 were good
@@hollowpointgaming6097 Elements of season 5 and 6 were good, but there was a lot of bad. The Stannis arc, for example? Trash. Tyrion's arc after he kills his father? Trash. I could go on, but I know what I know.
You see this scene is actually extremly well written. When Tyrion resigns as Hand of the Queen it hints on the resign of quality in season 8.
He should have called her the mad queen as his last words.
There was literally no reason for her to burn the city, she could’ve burned the red keep only to kill Cersei and every Lanister servant and everyone would’ve been happy about it, but no, they had to ruin her and ruin the show.
+@Luison40 I'm sorry she didn't go in the direction you wanted. The madness took her, and the all-loving purity sue slowly became as corrupt and evil as those she opposed. Or did you forget this was a dark fantasy show and not some Good vs Evil kids show?
@@RecklessFire29 There was no lead up to the madness and they spent the first 6 seasons building up her character to be "different" from her father. Its not like she had random bouts of cruelty here and there to plant a seed of doubt of whether or not she really was mad. It just happened in one day. Tywin was a piece of shit but he didn't randomly slaughter innocent people because that just isn't smart, there's no purpose to it, wastes valuable resources for no reason. There's a difference between dark and gritty and just comic book levels of villainy like the last season Dany.
@@robins2819 Ah yes. Watching as your brother's face is covered in melted gold is totally what a well-adjusted person does.
Add her trauma conga line through the series, seeing that her dragons can be defeated rather than a safe, ultimate deterrent, and finally falling into the idea that might makes right if it's for "the right reasons", and well... yeah.
Sorry, but your purity sue couldn't survive the grimdark Game of Thrones. She eventually fell into it just as all do.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@RecklessFire29 Not here is saying "we want daenerys to remain pure". Its literally the exact opposite. We wanted the writers to SHOW US her decline to insanity. Just deciding she's insane the next day because they wanted to rush the story out is unfulfilling after being invested in the story.
@@robins2819 She burned people do death on a whim throughout the show though.
It’s kinda like animal farm… you become the thing you most hated.
This where John realizes tyrion's got balls bigger than his.....
Y'all acting like she wasn't going mad from the beginning are fooling yourself. Rewatching just shows it more.
They're just in denial. They thought GOT was about reveling in self-righteous violence and rooting for terrible people.
The moment that Jon realizes he must kill his Queen. Awesome scene.
No I don't think so. The moment when he realized he should kill her was the time when he talked to Tyrion in the dungeon. Tyrion warned Jon that if Dany comes in power, her sisters would not accept her as their queen (as they wanted North to be Independent).
Honestly the best thing Tyrion did as her hand was resigning, I can’t think of a single benefit Tyrion’s council had given her not one. Not even a minor one, are there any? Every action he took (intentional or otherwise) was to Danny’s detriment
Jorah should've been the Hand
I feel sorry for Tyrion. The trouble being loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you.
Few episodes before "youre not different, youre just more of the same"
End episode "like father, like daughter, end in the hands of its loyal subjects"
I don't know if we'll ever see a show implode like GoT again.
They got the idea from Mass Effect.
@@JannyPwns mass effect retained its dialogue and general plot structure quality to the end in my opinion. None of the endings are satisfactory but at least when it comes to the parts that matter (other than the ending), me3 delivers.
I'd say in contrast, GoT starts "going bad" almost as early as season 5.
Watching clips from the early seasons, and the dialogue was phenomenal.
Watching this clip, I'm not sure the show-writers knew what dialogue even is.
I give the actors credit, how they were able to act for any of this was amazing.
I cant believe no one has mencioned this! If you look closely, at first he is on her left and on the next scene he just appears on her right like my man just teleported....
Beauty and possibly one of the finest actors I've seen on screen. This guy made you watch it excellent character and played so so well 👏 😎🤟
Unsullied stopped hitting thier lances on the ground the moment tyrion threw his badge. He really held some power till this point
Her sense of justice, If you don't want to ended in ashes is better agree with me. So sad, she had almost everything to be a great queen.
The real Game of thrones ended by season 6 This was a parody ending.
@@redwind5150 *season 4
She was crazy from the start and a messed up view of what freedom looked like. Glad she died.
There have been hints of the character's cruelty and insanity throughout the series. She constantly burned people alive and in one occasion sealed two people in a vault to either suffocate or starve to death.
@@alfredoprime5495 they literally betrayed her what???
And then the treacherer gets to nominate a king
Very nice and logical
"I will take what is mine with fire and blood"
>Takes it with fire and blood
"Wait ...😮"
Tyrion once said, he would gladly poison that entire city. 😂
He forgot his own words.
She was all kinds of crazy just waiting to happen.
True and utter chills this gives me, tyrion was right in his choice, but khaleesi who I stood by since episode one, and touched inopropitly by her brother to go mad queen makes me want to cry and scream at the show in frustration. Long live Tyrion.❤️
I love the music here. It's so...sinister. The music is one of the few redeeming qualities of this final season
'Guards! Take him away! And when I'm dead, release him for no reason and let him choose the next King.'
Wish she got her Emmy for this
You do remember this is the same town people that laughed and cheered during Starks execution.
That put aside, she was fueled by anger and grief. She lost Jorah and then her best friend... who commanded them to burn. I would've done the same
So she was too weak to rule or hold any power whatsoever
@@tezz2698 no Cersi had it coming a very long time ago, it was beautiful ending for her and regardless it was always this ending for danerys. I love her but this was always how it would end, even the author said so
@@basiaboss8292 You seem a bit confused
@@tezz2698you’re the one who seems confused
she murdered how many babies with her flames? f all the way off
Grey worm should have never left Jon Snow alone with her in hostile territory
that look at the end.. Jon knew he had to end her.
Only just noticed her cloak changes shoulders. It starts off over her left shoulder before moving to the right shoulder.
Good catch
Just like Tyrion himself lol.
Tyrion's advices lead Daenerys forces into ambush many times.
And Daenerys actually suspected that he might not be just an idiot, but a traitor and Cersei's spy.
This could also explain why she was triggered by the sound of bells for she believed the surrender was a
trick by Tyrion conspiring with Cersei.Especially if Dany had received a message from her unsullied
that Tyrion freed Jaime and they both supposedly defected to Cersei exactly the moment when she was
about to fly to battle.And she actually heard a voice from the city:"Queen we are surrounded! Queen help us!",
which could be misunderstood for a distress signal from her own troops.
So she decided to bombard area ahead her troops to protect them from whatever trap could be.
This caused explosions of Aerys's wildfire which she recognized as if it was wildfire trap indeed
(pseudo wildfire trap theory). And she would genuinly believe that she indeed liberated the
city from a tyrant destroying it with wildfire. Then Daenerys arrests Tyrion for espionage "staring at him with anger,
disgusted that she trusted him so deeply for so long" according to the script.
Ironically Daenerys slaughtered a city only because Tyrion freed his brother.
Just like invasion of White Walkers happened only because Tyrion wanted
to use the White Walkers as a case for parley with Cersei! Daenerys was never mad!
Drogon took Daenerys body east towards Volantis. Towards nearest red priestess.
Daenerys is resurrected by a red priestess. First she learns how to fight with a sword.
Tyrion Lannister and Jon Snow will die by her hand! Revenge and Justice! Kill Bill Targaryen style.
I don’t think so I think the ringing bells part was more of a trigger for her after having to witness her best friend get murdered
Lol, the bells
Throughout the show, you only see the superficial signs of temporal anger. A child with dragons that tries to manage her emotions and leader qualities for 8 seasons. In the book, she starts age 13.
Saying in season 2 she'll burn Qarth to the ground and in her last speech adding it to her list creates a very funny headcanon of always having at her back of the mind, that when her dragons will grow and she starts her killing spree, she'll pay them a visit. That is funny at best. They didn't put the work. The theme of her not having enough bloodshed after so much loss sounds like a good idea, but it would fit any other Targaryen but not her. Methodically killing every line of houses for hours didn't seem like a possible outcome from the woman who gave water to the dying crucified man or watching "every single one of them" child's faces until Meereen. If they wanted to be realistically cliché (something that inevitably happend at the end), due to her power hungry "madness" she would have burned Winterfel the moment she could see Sansa was playing the game and refused to kneel. She wasn't going to keep a notebook of beloved main characters D and D and the people liked, with the name:
List of people I'll kill earlier:
Sansa.
Tyrion.
Jon if he continues to act that way.
Ps. Varys died from spoiling the end of the show when even she had no idea of what she wanted to do. He saw the stars and decided that the man who died one season after being a Commander (just like Ned died after one season of politics) would hold himself fine as a King.
Wasn’t she freeing slaves? Remember when she told Jorah they had 200,000 reasons to take Yunkai? I’ll always remember THAT Dany 🥹
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Season 8 was like if a 5 year old wrote the ending to the show
Instead of leaving to atleast try to find safety somewhere, he walked back to tell fantasy hitler he committed treason. It's amazing people defend this season.
Comrade Stalin would be proud.
Nah, Stalin would say instead, "Hold my Beer (vodka most likely)...!"
I wasn't evil. I was just ahead of the curve.
Canon you’re still alive and just passed through the wall
I started Game of Thrones in January & I just finished the series a few weeks ago! I loved it & didn't think season 8 was that bad. It had it's fault but I didn't hate it
Damn this man can’t catch a break
I really don’t see the books ending like this. I mean the books are clearly about Fantasy and the series inclines more for the drama like a telenovela. The only thing from the series that I really think its going to happen also in the books is the Starks winning I think thats kinda obvious since they are the protagonist.
If you think the Starks automatically get to win because they’re the protagonists, you haven’t been paying much attention.
The people who say she lost her mind the last 3 episodes ignore the cruelty she inflicted on various people from early on. She had men burned alive for refusing to kneel to her. She crucified or burned many people in lots of places. Nothing honorable or good about her, just a tyrant from early on. Anyone who announces themselves with 6 titles is obviously full of themselves.
0:18 looks at Tyrion, then her head spins faster than the eye can see
That look she gives jon, she really became terrifying at the end. He would only be allowed to live as long as he did as his told basically. Dany wouldn't hesitate to do same to Jon as she did to many, burn him.
How did he end up on her right side,he confronted her on the left side
Daenerys kinda forgot where she was in spacetime.
Was that Snow's queen? I keep forgetting.
Im addicted to watch this series but it's coming in Hotstar now🥺
We all sort of forgot about the prince who was promised!
Sometimes i think it is better to have a shit ending. As life is unfair. 👏
Let's remember that it didn't have to be like this. But this is what we got.
I understand the way Tyrion feels right now, he warned her to not take the short path of fire and blood for all that time when he was her hand, all for her to ignore it on a whim out of anger and burn a city to ash and melt parts if the red keep. The level of betrayal he must feel must be painful.
There's literally just as many Unsullied in this scene as there were when she bought them lol. Apparently every single soldier has died and come back to life at least three times.
“I accept your resignation and I am not going to kill you even though my blood and fire wrath is up with the ashes of this city. We must torment you with due process and a trial.”
Tyrion- “D’ohhhhhhhh”
"best season ever"
-Emlia Clarke with an awkward smile
Me thinks G R R Martin is disheartened by the reception of the ending, and is either stalling the book or he is hoping he passes before having to finish it, because he did tell D&D the end, just not how he got there. I feel people are angry at the ending, and people will be angry at george when it is confirmed. It was the condensing of the plot that killed the series, they needed to set up this 'love story over a season and half, maybe 2, not bodge it in two episodes. Didn't buy it one bit, so Jon becoming a simp and dense because of 'his quweeeen' in about 3 episode arc, and turning a blind eye was completely out of character. it would have been better if they had established him manipulating, or faking it.
I always see Dany's sanity as a progress bar. At 0% she is completely sane and at 100% she is fully mad. Before the start of those 3 episodes she was at like 40-50%. Then she gradually got more mad but at same time she wasn't near 100% yet but more like at 65-70%. So they leapt the final third with a snap of a finger.
I feel that she was always this person, the signs were there all along. Season 8 just gave life to her true nature, it was always going to end like this. I doubt the ending in the books (once finished) will be too much different.
Tyrion learned to teleport from Daenery’s left 0:50 to her right 1:16
Just another plot line D&D forgot to develop or they forgot how to shoot a scene all together
In the end her lust for power like every great ruler destroyed her.
The truth is Tyrion should have put her down when varys suggested it. Think about it he would have claimed the title his brother had as king Slayer. He would have saved his friends life. His brother's life his sister's life they're unborn baby's life. And saved Jon Snow from taking one for the team. He would have ruled after her and been merciful to Jamie and Cersei. Tyrion would have more unlikely been a part of the Night's Watch for executing his Queen. He failed to do with his brother had to do.
I don't think Jon Snow would have shown mercy to Cersei. Few would. She did things only mad despots do, to her shame.
@@MrClebophd he would have at least insured she had a fair trial. If he is unsettled with the fact that Daenerys men are executing Lannisters in the streets then I have no doubt in my mind he would have spared Cersei. Especially with the way he begged Dany to forgive them.
I don't understand why everyone hates this ending so bad. She massacred every foe to date, including burning people locked in a building. Her best friend was murdered right in front of her. Her surrogate father died fighting zombies or whatever. Her entire motive for living was just upended when she found out the man she loves is the rightful heir to the throne. She knows she will probably have to execute that man's sister for treason. Two of her dragons are dead, which she thinks of as her children. And she's the product of a father and mother who were brother and sister- clearly one step from madness her entire life. This is exactly how it had to end. It sucks that Jon had to leave, and king Bran is truly stupid, though I have a feeling that will be rectified in the new Jon Snow series. I re-watched the season four times now and it makes total sense- after about the third time around....
No one really objected to Denarys going nuts. But there was a bunch of poor writing and stupid behavior and lazy effects and plot holes all around it that made it so glaringly bad.
Agree. Didn’t feel bad for the city at all. It was same city which was happy calling Ned traitor n saw him his head being cut off. Also Tyrian was honestly trying to save his brother n sister n wanted them to live free even though they did everythng bad n killed the innocent since the first episode. He was such a hippocrite dwarf for me. Letting his sister n bro live alive n sacrifice Danny by calling her mad king daughter n bla bla
I always thought he should've said... "Now you shall join your father, now your the Mad Queen."
In the words of King Theodan : "How did it come to this?"
Oh, now he wants to resign from his position⁉️ After he already f*cked up everything for Daenerys and her allies⁉️
HIS plan for taking KL would've been far worse on the smallfolk, and judging by what KL looked like in the ending of the show... she didn't do much harm
You probably think the same for stalin
Even KIt Harington knew he had no agency in this scene, look at his face. The performance that we got was in the moment, disappointed, bored, out of it, and his character irrelevant. So both the character and the actor knew the only saving grace would be to kill her.
I like how this unsullied and dothraki army is larger in size than whitewalker army at its peak
Tragic can be used for the ending of this series. These writers had perhaps the best all time collection of actors that has ever been assembled for such a huge series as GOT, and they were not in their class. In my opinion, it feel off the rails as soon as they took it over.
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It’s staggering how many people missed the social commentary of the ending.
This isn’t a “descent into madness”
It’s a human being doing what humans beings do in positions of power.
Great dialogue 😂😂😂😂😂
That was a short resignation
What a spectacular ending! Really subverted my expectations! I love that!
In concept, this ending for Daenerys IS great and subversive! But god, I wish they gave this ending more time! Rushing is what folk were mad about.
The worst most incoherent stupid ending
@@Anukii i respectfully disagree. i mean, maybe it could have worked if her deccent into madness was drawn out over several seasons. but one of the best things about her, especially earl on in the story, was her love of the common people, the outcasts, the leftovers, the slaves, the weak/sick, he poor. she reiterated several times over that she never wanted to be "queen of the ashes". and yet that's exactly what she became. the only scenario i could buy her decent into madness would be a scenario where every single one of her followers betrays her in order to play the game of thrones (not betraying her because she's a lunatic, but betraying her to further their own cause)
@@jeffreyv8306 Thing is as much as we saw her compassion, we also saw her savagery. In fact, she made true one of the threats she made against folk who wouldn't let her into a city in the first season, in the final season. Dany was absolutely not against mad violence; never was. The show only portrayed it as good because the audience is supposed to be on her side at the time.
I do agree that the descent needed to be better portrayed and longer. The sudden shift was eyerolling.
I believe there were a few factors that led to this shows decline, and it's not fair to lay all of the blame on D&D. Yes, they rushed it to move on to other projects and should take part of the blame because of that, but not all of it.
Money, I think ruined it a bit. In the earlier seasons there was less money. So much so that we didn't get to see any big battles. The little bits of action we saw were some 1v1 or groups smaller than 20 or so men fighting. This meant that all the focus was on the script and acting. In later seasons we saw epic battles such as the battle of the bastards, the Loot train and the Long night. When the focus is on action, it draws focus away from the aspects that made this show so successful in the first place. This was never a show about battles, hell it wasn't even a show about dragons. It was an unpredictable political drama, and that's what drew many of us to it.
And as unpopular as this will probably be, some of the blame has to go to GRRM. He kinda hung D&D out to dry by dragging his heels on this. It feels like he was struggling to finish the story, tying up all of the story arcs of all the characters, and reach a satisfactory conclusion. He's a great world builder, but he goes off on so many tangents, perhaps he doesn't know what to do with them all, so instead of trying to finish it, he left it knowing that D&D would be forced into improvising the final seasons, knowing it could never live up to the standard. The sad thing is, I don't think he will ever finish the story
The Dothraki respawn more than I do in Elden Ring.
I think they all hoped she would have a change of heart once the war with the white walkers was over and once Cersei would surrender they all wanted that and hoped that would be the end of it she would move on but they all knew seeing that she would take everyone and everything Tyrion seen this when he found his brother and sister killed he knew at that moment it would never end there