I like the moment in 8:17 where the older gentleman William Mackie(”Mäki”) who speaks very good finnish and having a thick South Osthrobotnia accent/dialect in his speech!
Love this! Thank you for sharing. I see a pic of my Grandma, JIngo Viitala Vachon, when Mr. Randell is flipping through the book. Both of her parents immigrated from Alavus to Calumet Michigan in late 1800's. Homestead in Misery Bay, the house is still standing and still owned by family.
I have just recently got interested in Finnish expats. I'm a what they call "paljasjalkainen" Finn living in Finland. Never been to North America in my life but I know that generations ago some of my relatives did immigrate there. It is funny how now things are starting to look more and more like those old times that even I am seriously thinking about leaving this beautiful land.
What a stupid idea is that teaching your kids Finnish would result them to speaking English with an accent while living in a society that’s 100% English.
That's actually not a stupid idea at all. Almost all bilingual people have a trace of the other language. For example, when you listen to Fenno-Swedes speak Finnish, you'll notice that the pronounce their Ls differently and the same applies to ö before r. Most people retain traces of their heritage language. For example, if you listen to Finnish gypsies, you'll notice that they have a distinct accent. You have to look at the societal context: #1 discrimination is often based on perceived differences. #2 These differences lead to an us-vs-them mentality. Finns, Italian Americans and many others didn't want to be seen as "others" because they were different. So, they intended to minimize those differences by not speaking their mother tongue to the next generation. The first generation immigrant's English was heavily influenced by Finnish. The third generation immigrant's accent is almost indiscernible from other native speakers' accents. This elimination of a foreign sounding accent reduced others' perception of foreignness and thus led to better opportunities in America.
When finns went to america, they went there to work their butts of and didin't claim that everyone should embrace Ukko and Väinämöinen, not even Odin and Thor and that americans should start living finnish way. They started to live the american way. That's the difference
My grandparents did integrate but we had the sauna and people from all over the neighborhood would come to enjoy my grandfather's sauna and the fellowship, the happy fun chit chat on Saturdays. I have fond memories of those days.
@@finnicpatriot6399 Germanoids😁 yeah, those Teuds came from Caucasus and literally hijacked Europe along with Slavs.😂 Finno-Ugric people are the true natives of Scandinavia and North Russia....these Teuds, Slavs, Balts, Celts never belonged to Europe 😜
But still adapting to environment is still what you should do, or not whine about having hard time if you decide not to.. Environment will not adapt to you as long as you are the minority, and that is just justice.
you can't compare Kalevala or the Norwegian Saga to religions, if you want to look at the religion then check out how many Lutheran churches there are, as well as newspapers, cultural groups in sports, theatre, music, Finn schools, etc that are in the Finnish language to keep the heritage, culture, and language alive... it is a question of ones own identity that most people want to keep... I don't think immigrants today are asking us to embrace theirs but to let them keep their culture, heritage and language and not to assimilate and lose their own identity
I got sucked into a UA-cam wormhole and this is maybe the fifth Finnish-American video I've watched in a row, and it's funny how all the people who can still speak a bit of Finnish sound Estonian.
Damn how I hate these "politically correct" commentaries: if you were not already an able workman leaving Scandinavia, you were dead. That is, you KNEW the tools and pretty much conditions, only challenge was the language. Something else than coming from Africa, Asia or South America - and why the hell wouldn't it be?
I like the moment in 8:17 where the older gentleman William Mackie(”Mäki”) who speaks very good finnish and having a thick South Osthrobotnia accent/dialect in his speech!
Love this! Thank you for sharing. I see a pic of my Grandma, JIngo Viitala Vachon, when Mr. Randell is flipping through the book. Both of her parents immigrated from Alavus to Calumet Michigan in late 1800's. Homestead in Misery Bay, the house is still standing and still owned by family.
My dads aunt also migrated from Alavus to New Jersey. :)
Hieno ja mielenkiintoinen video. Mahtavaa kuulla kuinka hyvin ihmiset tuntevat juurensa.
I have just recently got interested in Finnish expats. I'm a what they call "paljasjalkainen" Finn living in Finland. Never been to North America in my life but I know that generations ago some of my relatives did immigrate there. It is funny how now things are starting to look more and more like those old times that even I am seriously thinking about leaving this beautiful land.
My great great grandfather immigrated from Finland to Northeastern Ohio with the last name maki (Makee)
2:35 Tornio mainittu!
Verynoce. Story im so touching
WE WUZ FINNS AND SHIEE
What a stupid idea is that teaching your kids Finnish would result them to speaking English with an accent while living in a society that’s 100% English.
That's actually not a stupid idea at all. Almost all bilingual people have a trace of the other language.
For example, when you listen to Fenno-Swedes speak Finnish, you'll notice that the pronounce their Ls differently and the same applies to ö before r.
Most people retain traces of their heritage language. For example, if you listen to Finnish gypsies, you'll notice that they have a distinct accent.
You have to look at the societal context: #1 discrimination is often based on perceived differences. #2 These differences lead to an us-vs-them mentality.
Finns, Italian Americans and many others didn't want to be seen as "others" because they were different. So, they intended to minimize those differences by not speaking their mother tongue to the next generation.
The first generation immigrant's English was heavily influenced by Finnish. The third generation immigrant's accent is almost indiscernible from other native speakers' accents.
This elimination of a foreign sounding accent reduced others' perception of foreignness and thus led to better opportunities in America.
A joke sisu.
What a joke
When finns went to america, they went there to work their butts of and didin't claim that everyone should embrace Ukko and Väinämöinen, not even Odin and Thor and that americans should start living finnish way. They started to live the american way. That's the difference
My grandparents did integrate but we had the sauna and people from all over the neighborhood would come to enjoy my grandfather's sauna and the fellowship, the happy fun chit chat on Saturdays. I have fond memories of those days.
@@BrianJuntunen Never loose the surname... You and you're family are and will always be one of us!
No one's ever told me to convert to Islam, if that's the agenda you're pushing.
Why even mention Germanoids like Odin and Thor?
@@finnicpatriot6399 Germanoids😁 yeah, those Teuds came from Caucasus and literally hijacked Europe along with Slavs.😂
Finno-Ugric people are the true natives of Scandinavia and North Russia....these Teuds, Slavs, Balts, Celts never belonged to Europe 😜
I would love to visit a town like this and actually get to speak Finnish with these people.
But still adapting to environment is still what you should do, or not whine about having hard time if you decide not to.. Environment will not adapt to you as long as you are the minority, and that is just justice.
you can't compare Kalevala or the Norwegian Saga to religions, if you want to look at the religion then check out how many Lutheran churches there are, as well as newspapers, cultural groups in sports, theatre, music, Finn schools, etc that are in the Finnish language to keep the heritage, culture, and language alive... it is a question of ones own identity that most people want to keep... I don't think immigrants today are asking us to embrace theirs but to let them keep their culture, heritage and language and not to assimilate and lose their own identity
Its not a good idea to destroy your cultural identity & heritage just to fit in.
unfortunately that is what usually happens
@@aahpuuhNot if you live in a cultural enclave.
Karstula mainittu! Näkötornilla tavataan!
I got sucked into a UA-cam wormhole and this is maybe the fifth Finnish-American video I've watched in a row, and it's funny how all the people who can still speak a bit of Finnish sound Estonian.
My grandparents came from finland and settled in Ashtabula harbor he worked unloading the ore boats wea a huewitt operator hackurey was his last name
the last speaker,,,,i can get through this cause i am finnish you bet SISU
Todella mukavaa kuulla.... SISUA .... SUOMALAISUUTTA
: x
I'm a Ashtabula Finn :P
Do you know any Finnish? Sucks to realize that the vast majority of our 'colonies' have forgotten their language...
@@mikitz finnish wasn't the language they used on a daily basis at work etc. so it'd naturally get forgotten when time and generations passed.
Ashtabula as in Ashtabula OH? my mom will goes to volunteer her time at the church to make Nissua bread :D
@@smw1279 Nisua Weedbun :) cool that you remember than.
See Institute of Migration's website and shop for more info
Damn how I hate these "politically correct" commentaries: if you were not already an able workman leaving Scandinavia, you were dead. That is, you KNEW the tools and pretty much conditions, only challenge was the language. Something else than coming from Africa, Asia or South America - and why the hell wouldn't it be?