The Perfect Storm | Episode 22

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  • Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
  • Welcome to episode 22 of 'The Perfect Storm' with Abbas, Imran & Ijaz, live at 8pm BST. The Perfect Storm is designated for anyone that would like to have their belief system challenged. Can your belief system stand up to scrutiny?
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    Title: Eulogy
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:33 - Abbas & Imran join
    2:17 - Format of the stream
    3:45 - Testing other beliefs vs Islam
    10:49 - Inviting Non-Muslims
    12:47 - Rise of the Islamic Civilization in Arabia
    17:08 - Muslim joins
    18:47 - Non-Practising Muslim joins
    20:19 - PAMZ (Ex-Sikh Agnostic) joins
    21:40 - Everyone being born a Muslim
    23:14 - Fate of people who are ignorant of Islam
    27:11 - People questioning their existing beliefs
    30:41 - PAMZ's reasons for being an Agnostic
    34:44 - Why does God allow Suffering?
    41:14 - Life being Meaningless without God
    43:45 - Amy (Agnostic) joins & shares her beliefs
    46:29 - Discussion on the Abrahamic God
    47:44 - Islam not borrowing from Zoroastrianism
    48:51 - Similar beliefs between various religions
    52:07 - Origin of Life: Order & Chaos
    1:00:32 - Reasons for the similarities between various religions
    1:03:28 - Islam not copying from other beliefs
    1:07:45 - Existence of previous prophets
    1:09:36 - The Doctor's Diagnosis of Amy's beliefs
    1:32:17 - Advice to Amy
    1:36:46 - The belief in God & similarities between various religions
    1:51:18 - Reverend Jason Burns joins
    1:53:17 - Scrutinizing the Christian belief about God & Jesus
    2:15:06 - Robin (Christian) joins
    2:15:35 - Unreliablity of the Bible & its authors
    2:23:10 - Scrutinizing Luke & his Gospel
    2:28:19 - Responding to Robin's claims
    2:33:52 - Methodological Neutrality approach to the Bible by EF Dawah Panel
    2:36:56 - Bible's unreliablity in the Christian Academia
    2:41:40 - Preservation of the Bible vs Qur'an
    2:45:19 - Issues with the prologue of John's Gospel & its implications
    2:48:39 - Arianism vs Trinitarianism
    2:54:11 - Problems with Salvation in Christianity
    2:59:21 - Does Jesus fit in Isaiah 53?
    3:07:03 - Review of the discussion with Robin
    3:10:14 - Sam (Quranist) joins
    3:11:28 - Hindsite (Christian) joins
    3:11:47 - Animal Sacrifice in Temple being reinstated after Jesus' 2nd coming
    3:14:16 - Implications of Paul taking the Nazirite Vow
    3:25:58 - Dawah to Hindsite
    3:29:45 - Review of previous discussion
    3:30:19 - Advice regarding Dawah
    3:33:28 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 222

  • @asadullahsaaid3794
    @asadullahsaaid3794 Рік тому +64

    *Timestamps:*
    0:00 - Intro
    1:33 - Abbas & Imran join
    2:17 - Format of the stream
    3:45 - Testing other beliefs vs Islam
    10:49 - Inviting Non-Muslims
    12:47 - Rise of the Islamic Civilization in Arabia
    17:08 - Muslim joins
    18:47 - Non-Practising Muslim joins
    20:19 - *PAMZ (Ex-Sikh Agnostic) joins*
    21:40 - Everyone being born a Muslim
    23:14 - Fate of people who are ignorant of Islam
    27:11 - People questioning their existing beliefs
    30:41 - PAMZ's reasons for being an Agnostic
    34:44 - Why does God allow Suffering?
    41:14 - Life being Meaningless without God
    43:45 - *Amy (Agnostic) joins* & shares her beliefs
    46:29 - Discussion on the Abrahamic God
    47:44 - Islam not borrowing from Zoroastrianism
    48:51 - Similar beliefs between various religions
    52:07 - Origin of Life: Order & Chaos
    1:00:32 - Reasons for the similarities between various religions
    1:03:28 - Islam not copying from other beliefs
    1:07:45 - Existence of previous prophets
    1:09:36 - The Doctor's Diagnosis of Amy's beliefs
    1:32:17 - Advice to Amy
    1:36:46 - The belief in God & similarities between various religions
    1:51:18 - *Reverend Jason Burns joins*
    1:53:17 - Scrutinizing the Christian belief about God & Jesus
    2:15:06 - *Robin (Christian) joins*
    2:15:35 - Unreliablity of the Bible & its authors
    2:23:10 - Scrutinizing Luke & his Gospel
    2:28:19 - Responding to Robin's claims
    2:33:52 - Methodological Neutrality approach to the Bible by EF Dawah Panel
    2:36:56 - Bible's unreliablity in the Christian Academia
    2:41:40 - Preservation of the Bible vs Qur'an
    2:45:19 - Issues with the prologue of John's Gospel & its implications
    2:48:39 - Arianism vs Trinitarianism
    2:54:11 - Problems with Salvation in Christianity
    2:59:21 - Does Jesus fit in Isaiah 53?
    3:07:03 - Review of the discussion with Robin
    3:10:14 - Sam (Quranist) joins
    3:11:28 - *Hindsite (Christian) joins*
    3:11:47 - Animal Sacrifice in Temple being reinstated after Jesus' 2nd coming
    3:14:16 - Implications of Paul taking the Nazirite Vow
    3:25:58 - Dawah to Hindsite
    3:29:45 - Review of previous discussion
    3:30:19 - Advice regarding Dawah
    3:33:28 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up
    SubhanAllah 💖🤍❤️
    Brilliant Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
    _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

  • @alifiamd9963
    @alifiamd9963 Рік тому +35

    35:20 removing God does not remove suffering, it actually removes justice in that suffering. MashaAllah excellent point bro Ijaz!👍😃

    • @Zzucia
      @Zzucia Рік тому +3

      Powerful statement

  • @Ivan-go8yk
    @Ivan-go8yk Рік тому +27

    SubhanAllah ijaz is an absolute jem... Abbas and Imran also🤍.

  • @itisyouthatiadore
    @itisyouthatiadore Рік тому +29

    Someone should clip the discussion with amy and name it did you came from nothing and do you create yourself? Dr.Imran excellently dismantle her arguments and bring back to fault on her thinking.

    • @monkeypolice3048
      @monkeypolice3048 Рік тому +3

      Calm down man lighten up give her some time. Let her make her case soon she'll reach a dead end. She's very intelligent and she's testing how far she can go.

    • @samboy90
      @samboy90 Рік тому +2

      She or he?

    • @monkeypolice3048
      @monkeypolice3048 Рік тому

      @@samboy90 I don't think the streams is about the person.

  • @clearskybluewaters
    @clearskybluewaters Рік тому +9

    our scholars have said that suffering in of itself are blessing to learn from, something to use to make yourself grow as a person

    • @HK-dd2bo
      @HK-dd2bo Рік тому

      Also, no Muslim suffers through anything for the sake of Allah except that it wipes away from his sins.

  • @basedmuslimbooks
    @basedmuslimbooks Рік тому +24

    3:29:47 bless that lady's heart. She's the most genuine Christian I've heard so far. May Allah guide the best ones into Islam

  • @originalsource8952
    @originalsource8952 Рік тому +28

    Jesus PBUH (keep law) vs Paul (abandon law). Who should you follow?

  • @disndat6271
    @disndat6271 Рік тому +6

    Ijaz (as handsome as he is) asks a question: "What's the time?"
    The responding evangelist answers: "My doctor gave me paracetamol for a headache".
    Absolutely irrelevant. And your patience is unbelievable. Unbelievable.

  • @AbdurRaheem325
    @AbdurRaheem325 Рік тому +5

    I loved the conversation with Amy. Most of HIS perspectives are based on what modern secular education drills down our throats. I did a religious studies minor, and most of the arguments he’s raising are things my professors used to raise in lectures, and brother Ijaz deconstructed the arguments beautifully.

  • @fahad055
    @fahad055 Рік тому +5

    Jazakom Allah khair brothers.

  • @adilumer9439
    @adilumer9439 7 місяців тому

    Mashallah my brother ijaz has the most wonderful smile. What a handsome brother

  • @omarsarhan
    @omarsarhan Рік тому +8

    Ijaz went straight super saiyan this stream!

  • @baran1455
    @baran1455 Рік тому +2

    From 35:00 to 43:00 is a must to be uploaded as a seperate video under the title of Suffering,trials and meaning in life. Subhanallah it was amazing.

  • @slimanipdr
    @slimanipdr Рік тому +4

    What a beautiful stream, may Allah bless and reward you greatly.

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks7259 Рік тому +2

    JazakAllahu khairan

  • @shahid8545
    @shahid8545 Рік тому +22

    Amy is definitely someone who can hold a conversation and is very respectful and listens attentively and converses fairly and to that I respect her a great deal. I can see how she may come to these conclusions, they seem on the surface reasonable to a degree but upon further investigation they don't hold up as brother Abaas mentioned. If they were copied then definitely their mistakes were copied but the Quran doesn't have those biblical mistakes and errors which is something someone would need to carefully consider if they are sincere.

    • @neothe0ne
      @neothe0ne Рік тому +3

      I can’t get my head around ppl referring to the person named Amy as a she when the person is clearly a he.

    • @shahid8545
      @shahid8545 Рік тому +1

      @@neothe0ne Its called being respectful. In the western world this is their right. If they choose to identify as something other then what they were born then thats their right as a citizen of that country. It's just that simple.

    • @neothe0ne
      @neothe0ne Рік тому

      @@shahid8545 Its not simple actually. Not everyone is as gullible and easily fooled as you are. Before replying to comments try and read the comments first, then let it register in your brain before letting your fingers control your thought process.
      That said, i couldn’t care less if an individual wants to refer to themselves as the opposite sex or a donkey or anything else for that matter. It’s their life and they can do as they please.My issue, as can be deciphered from my previous comment, is with the average joe being forced to refer to those individuals as something they are not. Or the average Joe being made to think they are obliged to bend over to the whims of others.
      If I see a man in front of me i’ll refer to the person as him/he and if its a woman i’ll refer to the person as her/she.
      Due to a persons mental state I shouldn’t have to corrupt my intelligence to make them somehow feel more comfortable. It’s that simple!

    • @neothe0ne
      @neothe0ne Рік тому +4

      @@shahid8545 I’d go one further and ask you to ponder over something.
      If the messenger (pbuh) confronted an individual like Amy, would he have referred to him as a her/she out of respect for the person’s feelings? Be careful if you decide to respond because i’m not actually asking you for an answer. Just ponder over it.

    • @Unknown-kk6ni
      @Unknown-kk6ni Рік тому +2

      @@neothe0ne i totally agree. I love how respectful and kind and polite efdawah is. But this Amy is clearly insincere, he is just there to show he is smart or something along the lines. He clearly doesn't believe if he chose to change his identity. I do not think any logic or arguments will convince him, as he just chooses to be misguided and acting as he wants.

  • @limd7310
    @limd7310 Рік тому

    Every time I learn something new. Great explanation about suffering in the word.

  • @down9062
    @down9062 Рік тому +2

    What a great discussion

  • @meqdadmahmoud6641
    @meqdadmahmoud6641 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic educational master class Dr. Imran 💚💚 for agnostics and atheists

  • @lunastarr1925
    @lunastarr1925 Рік тому

    May Allah swt bless these three intelligent Islamic preachers.....Ameen2.....salam frm Malaysia

  • @2dar2
    @2dar2 Рік тому

    Thanks brothers

  • @ssa6227
    @ssa6227 Рік тому +4

    What a great point from Abbas!
    Indeed what takes centuries normally in terms of civilization happened in Arabia in decades.
    More you learn more your imaan grows. For me more I learn about other faiths also Aethism stronger my faith in Islam becomes. Hamdulillah now my faith is set in stone. But yes I did tried finding the truth. I believe one should study Islam properly before venturing into other beliefs. Otherwise you would lose your way.

    • @elkapitan75
      @elkapitan75 Рік тому

      Brother we are not suppose to study any other religion other than Islam. Unless it is for dawaah. But only when you have reached a higher understanding of Islam. Allahu'alam

  • @ALzzanam
    @ALzzanam Рік тому

    جزاكم الله خيرا

  • @karlibrahim5357
    @karlibrahim5357 Рік тому

    Mashallah Dr Imran articulates and dismantles Amy’s position with surgical precision. Such a exhilarating exchange. I hope Amy reverts to Islam as I like her.

  • @habasoosy2202
    @habasoosy2202 Рік тому +18

    I liked the stream but felt it wasn't the same without Hamza. When one of you is missing (Imran Abbas or Hamza) it feels different 😔

    • @joy8801
      @joy8801 Рік тому +4

      I love brother Hamza for the sake of Allah, but they have very different approaches. I feel there is more good in that they decided to continue separately. As people prefer different dawah approaches. Alhamdulillah for everything, and may Allah protect and grant them all Jannah ameen

    • @hanialturk5981
      @hanialturk5981 Рік тому +4

      Hamza is very confrontational and doesn’t fit what this group and style of Dawah team is trying to do. I wish him the best though

  • @East1London
    @East1London Рік тому

    mashaAllah Brother Ijaz layeth the lyrical smackdown this stream! FIRE IN DA BOOTH! MAY ALLAH REWARD ALL YOU BROTHERS FOR YOUR UNWAVERING EFFORTS... AMEEN

  • @abumansaray7
    @abumansaray7 Рік тому +1

    Great stream and pretty reasonable guests.

  • @baran1455
    @baran1455 Рік тому +2

    May Allah guide and softens Amy's heart

  • @Globalfaction
    @Globalfaction 5 місяців тому +1

    They start from October 7 in the same way they start from the first cell....they're not concerned with and they ignore "how did THAT come about?"

  • @freeman7983
    @freeman7983 Рік тому +1

    masha ALLAH

  • @ramadanbrunson2199
    @ramadanbrunson2199 Рік тому +2

    Abbas’s
    Smiles
    Are
    All
    Knowledge

  • @shahid8545
    @shahid8545 Рік тому +9

    Isn't it funny how Jews and Christians follow the same books and one religion follows the law and the other doesn't and both read the same books? Alhamdulilah for Islam.

    • @madiel-ziab605
      @madiel-ziab605 Рік тому +5

      Funny is how they both are astray.
      One thinks they are God's chosen people and are above all others, another thinks this individual died for their sins so they now can become religious lazy

    • @shahid8545
      @shahid8545 Рік тому +1

      @@madiel-ziab605 and they both read the same books and get 2 completely different worldviews from them. So you can follow the law and not follow the law from the same books. One view says you follow the law and keep the 613 laws of Moses and the other view is "there is no law". It truly is quite the spectacle.

  • @randyfeafeaga6745
    @randyfeafeaga6745 Рік тому

    MashAla

  • @seanou2837
    @seanou2837 Рік тому +1

    I just love Ijaz and how he explained how the people around Jesus never asked him to explain he was God in the flesh because they all knew he wasn't God, it was never an issue until Roman paganism was adapted as the Christian creed.

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому

      Don't get Catholics mixed with protestants . The pagan practices your talking about are catholic and absolutely nothing like what you've been told . Your efdawah are thee biggest liars there is. And have been exposed many times. It's just Muslims like you don't care , or more like don't dare to look at the other side of these arguments ?? If you did you'd join the millions leaving Islam every year because they discovered these mountains of lies about my faith and even yours spread by your teachers and apologists.

  • @user-so5he3op1q
    @user-so5he3op1q Рік тому

    Love you all my brithers

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope8 Рік тому

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Ahmad-mc5hn
    @Ahmad-mc5hn Рік тому

    I say this one more time, Amy is just here to fill her intellectual curiosity. She is not looking for the truth. She loves having deep discussions. And I am saying this from her body langauge. No matter how much you try she won't change her mind.

  • @Slimho
    @Slimho Рік тому +1

    I like this emy😉.. personality 🥺. May Allah guide her

  • @rachidtatem2740
    @rachidtatem2740 7 місяців тому

    Assalamou alaikoum brothers,
    These people who ask this question about why Allah let people suffering these peoples do not even care about their parents and relatives to start with .

  • @mouhamadoutaffa5064
    @mouhamadoutaffa5064 Рік тому +9

    1:19 Amy is stuck now all she does is disagree without explanation 🙄 she ran out reason.

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +1

      Your timestamp bro , fix it 🙂

  • @shaheengk5352
    @shaheengk5352 Рік тому

    ⭐️🌸⭐️🌸⭐️

  • @Muhammad--kg8yl
    @Muhammad--kg8yl Рік тому

    💓 وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته 💓
    🌟جزى الله عنا سيدنا محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم وسائر الأنبياء الأجلاء عليهم الصلاة والسلام ما هو اهل لهم 🌷
    👈 واللهم صل وسلم وبارك على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله واصحابه وعلى كافة الأنبياء الأجلاء عليهم الصلاة والسلام عدد خلقك ورضا نفسك وزنة عرشك ومداد كلماتك فى كل وقت وحين 🌟
    💥 جزاكم الله خيرا وزيادة 💥..

  • @ihatechriss
    @ihatechriss 11 місяців тому

    Does Ijaz have his own channel? Huge fan

  • @Artmanh009
    @Artmanh009 Рік тому +2

    Where's Hamza?? Why his he not in this streams???

  • @kaz007
    @kaz007 Рік тому +6

    Where is hamza for the last 2 livestreams? We need that spark.

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +3

      He is on his own channel

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +6

      do you know what brother Hamza would say, STOP WHINING

  • @NisarKhan-fk4rq
    @NisarKhan-fk4rq Рік тому

    Robin dancing all around the questions that the Dr asks him!!Lol confused people

  • @HussainFahmy
    @HussainFahmy Рік тому +5

    *_Poor Amy stuck in her own world._*

  • @klondike589
    @klondike589 Рік тому +1

    Amy, you can’t think about thinking if you don’t control your thoughts.

  • @Ebrahim2012EAG
    @Ebrahim2012EAG Рік тому

    If everything in the universe has a scientific explanation than randomness doesn't exist, if randomness doesn't exist (order exists) than intelligent agent is the reason for this order.
    So basically science is the ultimate proof of GOD.

  • @thechosenoneneo
    @thechosenoneneo Рік тому

    43:55 the look on abbas face 😂

  • @Ashleii
    @Ashleii Рік тому +3

    Salaam brothers. I hope you take a read and consider this . It’s long sorry!
    I read on a live chat the other day that after the next historicity session on John you will do the Old Testament.
    I was wondering if there is actually an appetite for this amongst the viewers.? After the excellent analysis of the New Testament it seems that the same on the Old Testament would be a long and humongous task . And to what benefit?
    Br khalil did a great session on OT in just one session comparing the masoretic, septuigent and DDS.
    It was enough to get a really good idea.
    Maybe you should do a poll as I think lots of people are looking forward to more work on the Quran. And InshaAllah that would help to get to know the Quran better .
    The issue I have is that both old n new testaments are actually still divinely inspired books. Both these are almost the same format as during the time of RasoolAllah saw
    Sometimes in SC or in comments I see Muslims really badmouthing the bible. Quoting passages. But how to we know what is actually divinely inspired or not.
    The rule I heard was
    What’s aligns with the Quran is correct
    What is contradictory to the Quran is discarded
    But There is much the Quran doesn’t comment on that’s in the bible and for that we should remain quiet
    I worry that by going into the Old Testament it will get too long, complicated and might lead to us lay folk who get argumentative to disrespecti the bible
    The Jews don’t even follow Torah, they follow the Moses of the Talmud !
    So what’s the benefit?
    Maybe just one / two sessions on it with the largest and clearest changes ?
    Hope you don’t mind me saying but I personally think in this time when our actual enemy is woke liberalism , and we are being assaulted left right and centre then we should concentrate on building our own fortress.
    There is absolutely no reason to think we can withstand the attack better than the Christians who are literally annihilated by liberal secularism.
    Knowing the changes in the OT isn’t going to help.
    I was learning about the Eastern Orthodox Church and they apparently have still a possession of a treaty with Umar (rA) and Salahudin giving them special status and protection in Jerusalem . These people believe in the trinity and crucifixion and resurrection.. and yet they were given respect.
    They have very similar values and practices to us ( fasting , dhikr, good works, modesty perfection of character/Akhlaq)
    And the Quran does say that there are a group of Christian’s that will be closest to us .
    Personally I think it’s more important and exciting to get into Quran .
    Jzk

  • @reda29100
    @reda29100 Рік тому

    14:00 I believe Dr Imran is somewhat wrong about this point. Some Arabs knew, and I mean really few, how to write, but many knew speaking the language fluently, even making poems on heart but couldn't write or read them (i.e., oral transmission). But I don't the Qur'an is the very first book written in Arabic. There were those Mo'allaqat (hung pieces of peoms) on Ka'ba. Though to be skeptical, skme interpret the term to stick on hearts due to how good piece of a literature they are.
    So while they were not a compilation of texts we traditionally now call books, they were very likely pieces of Arabic literature, some even perhaps well known across Arabs at the time.

  • @Stephen-yw9sn
    @Stephen-yw9sn Рік тому

    1.20.02 Where did the singularity come from? If you search 'what is the singularity' you will find that it was infinite energy. Which is what the first law of thermodynamics states, 'energy cannot be created nor destroyed'.

  • @chexchex2890
    @chexchex2890 Рік тому

    @hindsite2020 may Allah ease the suffering of your family and bring them closer to Islam. Amin

  • @labibazaman9081
    @labibazaman9081 Рік тому

    Can someone provide the link of the background vocal music?

  • @gamermikail007
    @gamermikail007 Рік тому +13

    Dr. Imran if u get time plz join mufti yaasir in urdu channels , bcoz exmuslims r getting main stream platform to paddle red herrings and lies against Islam in India tv, some Pakistani and Indian Muslims r trying their best to counter this , but unlike them they can’t reach wide audiences, rss is in full info war with Islam , it will be great if u can bring this situation to your English speaking audiences too … ex Muslims r d biggest thing in India after giving them platform in intatv! Plz help , jazakallah

    • @linkup901ify
      @linkup901ify Рік тому

      Dang it sounds like it's getting really bad there.

    • @gamermikail007
      @gamermikail007 Рік тому

      ​@@linkup901ify its super bad , hindus have got free run for insulting and slandering , these ex Muslims r in the forefront they r in every hindu channels and in mainstream criticizing Islam with red herrings, getting 500k views in live streams , hindus r showering money on them in live chat ,few of them became hindus too (lol) ,problem is they ain't accepting any challenges from Muslims in neutral platform , since they don't have enough audiences , my only request to u all that even if u don't understand hindi or urdu plz join the Muslim stream to boost viewership , only then they will accept challenge , (though I doubt), anyways , seems like many Muslims with low eman" of India r going to lose Islam ! that's the sad part, total humiliation of Muslims r going one-sided!!!

  • @Chandransingham
    @Chandransingham Рік тому

    interesting contribution by Robin Boom and panel's reactions on the subject of Luke's gospel. Sadly no one mentioned Michael Patella's paper on Luke which is the latest commentary with a long list of bibliography. See pp1289-1362 in The Jerome Biblical Commentary for the Twenty-First Century Edited by John J Collins et al (t&tclark 2022). Michael Patella OSB is a professor of New Testament at St John's University in Collegeville.

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому

      Muslims make me laugh with these fringe and liberal scholars on the new testament. As if there's none commenting on the Quran proving the Quran had many problems with it's preservation and today's different translations. Scholars are not the authority Muslims think they are . Plus I can take Right now statements from even Bart Erhman and blow the Quran and Islam apart and the lies about our faith wide open.

  • @HuwaidahtheHamster
    @HuwaidahtheHamster Рік тому +1

    Not the perfect storm without Hamza

  • @firozsanullah9571
    @firozsanullah9571 Рік тому +4

    No Hamza no sweet and sour

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +5

      do you know what brother Hamza would say, STOP WHINING

  • @Stephen-yw9sn
    @Stephen-yw9sn Рік тому

    55.40 random mutations of dna can produce order thats beneficial to an organism when subjected to natural selection over time. Thats my understanding of how evolution works.

  • @pathfinder101
    @pathfinder101 Рік тому

    Amy if you reading this then this is you home work
    Does material world have infinite regression? If it does when did the reality comes to exist? If no then what is that necessary thing that caused all of this material and celestial beings including us?

  • @sheikmahamoodally4068
    @sheikmahamoodally4068 Рік тому +8

    The dawah was nice but it's not really the perfect storm without hamza.

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +2

      do you know what brother Hamza would say , STOP WHINING

    • @sheikmahamoodally4068
      @sheikmahamoodally4068 Рік тому +3

      @@homtanks7259 u probably dont know what whining is I guess.

    • @TPO_onYT
      @TPO_onYT Рік тому +1

      @@sheikmahamoodally4068 Repeating something over and over by multiple people can be tiring, just move on

    • @sheikmahamoodally4068
      @sheikmahamoodally4068 Рік тому

      @@TPO_onYT for sure. But my first time. I guess that's ok?

  • @AJCORP695
    @AJCORP695 Рік тому

    why does hamza not join perfect storm anymore?

  • @FullyAutomaticAddict410
    @FullyAutomaticAddict410 Рік тому

    Heyyy! What happened to the old team????

  • @khalidsharif1795
    @khalidsharif1795 Рік тому

    I think br Abbas mixed up clam cosmological argument with contigiency

  • @randallfe
    @randallfe Рік тому +2

    Where’s hamza

  • @jiyu5990
    @jiyu5990 Рік тому

    😄👍👍👍

  • @mustafapk1516
    @mustafapk1516 Рік тому +1

    How can amy not see it? There is no such thing as random, you can compute out every single interaction which takes place in our universe very precisely. its just that we don't have that compute power to do the crunching hence why labels like "Random" "Chaos" are thrown in... No such thing as Randomness where Ordered laws exist.

    • @hitogi06
      @hitogi06 Рік тому +3

      He see it. He understands it. Anyone that does computer science understands that algorithms are made to simulate what we view as random, or simulate what we see in nature. This literally proves that randomness does not exist. This leads to the logical conclusion that we live in a simulation. That would mean the world was created, and by extention we are also. This leads to the belief in a creator. Which leads to a religion.

    • @mustafapk1516
      @mustafapk1516 Рік тому +1

      @@hitogi06 yeah Ijaz was on money when he pointed out even the "random" algos aren't "random" they are merely bunch of algorithms which mix up a set of variables and spit em out, hence why any encryption can be broken end of the day if you have that sort brute force.

  • @AsifKhanxx
    @AsifKhanxx Рік тому

    I don't understand how in the age of information, widespread media, who has not heard of Islam? Come on the ignorance of people saying they have not heard of Islam

  • @user-qc3np3tb3m
    @user-qc3np3tb3m 3 місяці тому

    The people of the world still commit sin!

  • @cure4islamophobia649
    @cure4islamophobia649 Рік тому +2

    SUNNAH & SCIENCE: EVERY MAN HAS 360 JOINT BONES
    'A'ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
    "Everyone has been created with three hundred and sixty Joints. Whoever mentions Allah's greatness (says Allahu Akbar), praises Allah, extols Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah and removes stones from the path of the people, enjoins what is good and forbids the evil to the amount of those three hundred and sixty joints (sulama), he walks on that Day (of Judgment) having distanced himself from the Hell fire."
    Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated the Prophet Muhammad said (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him):
    "In every morning there is a charitable act on the joints of any of you. Every tasbihah (to say: subhanallah, i.e. Glory be to Allah) is a charitable act; every tahmidah (to say: al-hamdu lillah, i.e. Praise be to Allah) is a charitable act, every tahlilah (to say: la ilaha illallah, i.e. There is none worthy of worship but Allah) is a charitable act; every takbirah (to say: Allahu akbar, i.e. Allah is the Greatest) is a charitable act; enjoining the right is a charitable act; forbidding the evil is a charitable act. However, to fulfill that charity, it is sufficient to pray two rak'at of Duha."
    The word "Sulama" in Arabic refers to the joint. It can be also used for all the body bones and the joints between them. Most of the body bones are movable, but some are fixed as those of the skull.
    The Explanation of the Hadith
    The hadith clearly directs Muslims to be grateful to Allah, the Almighty, Who dignifies and honors man, over all other creatures, by giving him a straight upright skeleton. It has been created of a huge number of big and small bones and cartilage. Between every two bones, there is a joint to enable the bones and to protect the body's soft parts. These joints enable the person to stand up, sit down, lie on his side, bend, stretch, etc. Every Muslim who worships Allah, Glorified be He, must be grateful to Allah for every one of these joints, and offer a charitable act, in way of gratitude to His Creator, for this great blessing, without which life would have been impossible.
    It is amazing that the Prophet Muhammad said (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) mentioned the number of the body joints so precisely, at a time when nobody had any idea about human anatomy. Even now in the 21st century, many people still do not know the number of joints in their bodies, including many professors of orthopedics. I asked many of them, and their answer was between 200 and 300 bones, and around 100-300 joints.
    Likewise, many international encyclopedias avoid giving an exact number of bones and joints of the human skeleton by classifying them into major groups or subdivision. The Encyclopedia Britannica classified them into three subdivisions:
    1- The Axial Skeleton: which consists of the bones of the vertebral column and the majority of the skull bones.
    2- The Visceral Skeleton: which consists of the thorax (the ribs and the breastbones), the lower jaw and some parts of the upper jaw.
    3- The Appendicular Skeleton: which consists of the bones of the pelvic girdles, shoulders and limbs.
    The Hatchinson Encyclopedia, published in 1995, mentioned that the number of bones in a human skeleton is only 206 bones.
    In his book titled, "The Journey of Faith inside the Human Body", Dr.Hamid Ahmed Hamid mentioned that the total number of the human body joints is exactly 360, as the Messenger of Allah(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) stated 1400 years ago. According to Dr. Hamid, the details of these bones are as follows:
    First: 147 joints in the vertebral column
    25 joints between the vertebrae.
    72 joints between the vertebrae and the ribs.
    Second: 24 joints in the thorax
    2 joints between the bones of the sternum and the thoracic cage.
    18 joints between the sternum and the ribs.
    2 joints between the clavicle and the scapulae (shoulder blade).
    2 joints between the scapulae and the thorax.
    Third: 86 joints in the upper extremity
    2 joints between the scapular bones.
    6 joints between the elbows.
    8 joints between the wrists.
    70 joints between the hand bones.
    Fourth: 92 joints in the lower extremity
    2 hip joints.
    6 joints between the knee bones.
    6 joints between the ankles.
    74 joints between the feet bones.
    Fifth: 11 joints in the Pelvis
    4 joints between the coccyx vertebrae.
    6 joints between the bones acetabulm.
    1 joint of the pubic sumphysis.
    “Total number of joints: 360”
    Those joints, mentioned in the hadith, are the movable joints in the human body, which give the ability to the vertebral column and hence the whole body to move freely. The immovable joints, as those joining the skull bones, are not counted here. The movable ones are also known as "The Synovial joints", for they contain a fluid known as the "Synonvial fluid". This fluid allows friction-free movement of the bones by reducing direct contact. For example, the hip joint, composed of a ball-like head of the femur that fits into a socket-like depression of the pelvis bone, makes the hip and the whole leg movements easy and flexible. Another example is the Hinge joint, which enables man to easily bend his leg.
    Another type of joints is called "The Gliding joints" as that of the radiocarpal (wrist) joint. In this joint, the facing bone surfaces are in most cases flat, allowing the bones to glide freely in several directions. The joint between the two upper vertebrae has a special structure. It allows the side movement of the head, through the rotation of the ball-like head of one vertebra into the socket-like depression of the other vertebra.
    Were it not for the joints created by Allah the Almighty, man would not have been able to move one bone in his body. The defect in one joint causes a lot of pain and problems.

  • @sa1OO
    @sa1OO Рік тому

    Ijaz used to listen to slipknot? Hahaha that's shocking.

  • @luqman.luqman.luqman
    @luqman.luqman.luqman Рік тому +3

    Honestly, Amy is just annoying. She isn’t here sincerely and has no interest in learning. First question Abbas asked is where are you from she just went right into “I’m an Agnostic…” smh

    • @hitogi06
      @hitogi06 Рік тому +1

      Well to start off, it He. The fact that he can't be honest with himself, why expect he would be honest to others.

    • @monkeypolice3048
      @monkeypolice3048 Рік тому

      You may think so but other viewers in the background can benefit from it. : ) negative comments aren't beneficial so please please stop it.

  • @Addakhel
    @Addakhel Рік тому +10

    Anyone knows where Hamza is?

    • @timmabbb
      @timmabbb Рік тому +8

      Concentrating on dawah over at Hamza's Den

    • @TravelBandit
      @TravelBandit Рік тому

      Nope

    • @mohammeddmalik
      @mohammeddmalik Рік тому +4

      I believe he got sacked from EFDawah

    • @TravelBandit
      @TravelBandit Рік тому +3

      @@mohammeddmalik where did you get that from

    • @IbnHarisAli
      @IbnHarisAli Рік тому +16

      *EF Dawah & Brother Hamza have parted company. According to both parties, this was a mutual decision. One of the reasons given was that there needs to be a distinction between Hamza and EF Dawah as the general impression for everyone out there is that Hamza & EF Dawah are one and the same. So, for the foreseeable future Brother Hamza will not be on any streams on EF Dawah.*
      *Once the distinction is made that Hamza and EF Dawah are 2 separate entities, it’s possible Hamza will return. Hamza has said (I’m paraphrasing) this on one of his streams on Hamza’s Den.*
      *Brother Hamza has reiterated that the decision was mutual from both parties and there is no ‘bad blood’ between the two parties.* 😊
      *I’m also sad at this partition but it is what it is and it was always meant to be. At least, الحمد لله we still have both channels providing amazing content.*

  • @sa1OO
    @sa1OO Рік тому

    Ijaz 'meanin' ahmed

  • @Ivan-go8yk
    @Ivan-go8yk Рік тому +1

    1:25:20 Abbas diesofcringe 🤣🤣

  • @YenkammaNe
    @YenkammaNe Рік тому

    WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
    By Francois Gautier.
    *Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.*
    1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
    2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
    3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
    4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
    5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
    6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
    7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
    8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
    9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
    10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
    11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
    12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
    13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
    14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
    15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
    16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
    17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
    18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
    19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
    "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
    20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
    Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
    21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
    22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
    23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
    24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
    25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
    26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
    27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
    You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
    This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
    There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction

  • @siddiquemalik
    @siddiquemalik Рік тому +5

    Dr Imran well and truly checkmated Amy. She was either playing dumb with her responses or she is extremely dim and couldn't follow what he was saying. Convinced it's the first.

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +2

      1:23:35 what a crazy belief 😳

    • @deen-al-afriqi
      @deen-al-afriqi Рік тому

      They are extremely dim, unfortunately. Been repeating the same illogical statewnts for years already. But they think they're smart. Dunning kruger incarnate

    • @neothe0ne
      @neothe0ne Рік тому +1

      HE not SHE!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @HK-dd2bo
    @HK-dd2bo Рік тому

    52:52 this guest does not realise that they are saying, all systems or all forms of order come from some intelligent being EXCEPT NATURAL LAWS.
    They are excepting natural laws without any good reason.

  • @zoezoom110
    @zoezoom110 Рік тому +1

    Robin boom, why God kill his son for men sins instead of killing satan

  • @Ahmad-mc5hn
    @Ahmad-mc5hn Рік тому +1

    Amy won't change her mind. These discussions with her is a waste of time. I would say that the panel should invest their time in someone who is honest and willing to listen. Definelty Amy not one of them.

    • @abumansaray7
      @abumansaray7 Рік тому +1

      Did you listen to Dr. Imran's advice in the end?

    • @SocialistFinn1
      @SocialistFinn1 Рік тому +3

      Just because she hasn't changed her mind as easily as others doesn't make it a waste of time. Besides it's good for the audience to answer all these types of questions and claims.

    • @Ahmad-mc5hn
      @Ahmad-mc5hn Рік тому +1

      @@SocialistFinn1 This was not her first appearance, bro. These discussions are not just for the sake of audinece. It can also encourange people to take shahada or change their mind. It was just my thought. Nothing serious.

    • @TPO_onYT
      @TPO_onYT Рік тому +1

      Its okay if she doesnt change her mind, she is atleast a respectful interlocutor so when she gives those kinds of arguments and they are was dealt with very well by Dr Imran it helps others who will face these kinds of people as well.

    • @neothe0ne
      @neothe0ne Рік тому

      HE not SHE! 🤦🏻‍♂️
      Oh muslims stop insulting yourselves and your intelligence. Stop bending over just to please others. Try and stay TRUE to YOUR own values!

  • @danialassyrian4867
    @danialassyrian4867 Рік тому

    Without lies islam dies period

  • @cure4islamophobia649
    @cure4islamophobia649 Рік тому

    Exodus 21:28
    “If a bull gores a man or woman to death, the bull is to be stoned to death,🔥🤣🤣👀

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому

      Why are you laughing ? You do know this is a law Moses gave ?? That when a bull gore's a human being once he can do it again and again ?? The same laws was given for washing in running water to keep infection spreading. 3 thousands years before it was discovered by doctors.. Also the same dietary laws was given over lighter meats like pork , rabbit, camel and selfish that would go bad very quickly and kill by poisoning because there was no food preservation in the desert. Again thousands of years before we discovered it. God also warned Jews about food cross contaminated foods like dairy and meats . Again this wasn't discovered until thousands of years later. What prophecy does the Quran boast about ?? Nothing !! Because the verses you claim are scientific miracles read nothing like the claim Muslims make.. I challenge you to stand absolutely your best example of prophecy or beautiful verses from the Quran against the bibles ?? This is where Muslims always run because inside they know the Quran sounds rubbish next to the bible. And prophecy ?? Ours walks all over the Qurans.

  • @tariqs4357
    @tariqs4357 Рік тому +4

    NO BRO HAMZA ???? THIS IS LIKE THE JACKSON 5 W/O MICHAEL JACKSON, TOGETHER IT'S BETTER.

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Рік тому +3

      do you know what brother Hamza would say, STOP WHINING

    • @tariqs4357
      @tariqs4357 Рік тому

      @@homtanks7259 U KNOW WHAT I'D SAY TO U? COME HERE UNDER MY SHOE!

  • @heisenberg9616
    @heisenberg9616 Рік тому

    I have seen better looking potatoes than sir Amy

  • @lifeisbeautifulstaystrong282

    Predeterministic? By who? If we r not thinking, Hahaha, highest level of hypocrisy by Amy

  • @truthhurts1446
    @truthhurts1446 Рік тому +8

    Hamza is certainly missed. This channel needs Hamza’s chemistry to put some dumb people to their places where they belong

    • @1ummah790
      @1ummah790 Рік тому +1

      Then go to his account hamzas den

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому

      Hamza is a proven liar !! As are most of the efdawah panel. Want proof ??

    • @azmiamehboob583
      @azmiamehboob583 Рік тому +1

      I disagree. He used to be too rude & too impatient for dawah. I'm pleasantly surprised to see him so nice in his latest Arena stream.

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому +1

      this channel needs the truth !! The deception that goes on within this panel is truly staggering!!

    • @jackieramsbottom7458
      @jackieramsbottom7458 Рік тому

      @@azmiamehboob583 He's a known liar as all the panel at efdawah . They are constantly lying about Jesus and Christianity. want evidence ??

  • @waise28
    @waise28 Рік тому +2

    Not the same without Hamza

    • @gurutruthspeak598
      @gurutruthspeak598 Рік тому +1

      @@peaceful_warrior7627
      Do you think Hamza presence was for entertainment?

    • @TPO_onYT
      @TPO_onYT Рік тому

      Why else would it be"not be the same", its kinda a reasonable assumption, just move on and leave the drama...

    • @gurutruthspeak598
      @gurutruthspeak598 Рік тому

      @@TPO_onYT
      The reason I believe people still ask about Hamza, is because he addresses his departure in detail on his channel, whereas the Brothers' at EFDawah simply posted a tiny little tribute on the community page, despite the fact that Hamza has contributed to the growth and popularity of EFDawah more than anyone else...
      It's like they've completely distanced themselves from him, like he doesn't even exist! It really should've been handled better than this.

    • @ShhhutUp
      @ShhhutUp Рік тому +1

      Where did he address his departure? Thanks

    • @waise28
      @waise28 Рік тому

      @@ShhhutUp on his live streams

  • @trappedinexistence
    @trappedinexistence Рік тому +3

    much better without that hamza guy

    • @trappedinexistence
      @trappedinexistence Рік тому

      @@peaceful_warrior7627 muslim but I fail to see how that makes a difference

    • @trappedinexistence
      @trappedinexistence Рік тому +1

      @@peaceful_warrior7627 ok

    • @gurutruthspeak598
      @gurutruthspeak598 Рік тому

      @@trappedinexistence
      Snowflakes of both the Muslim and non-Muslim variety don't like Hamza.
      But its OK, as there will always be snowflakes just like there will always be tough cookies like Hamza.

    • @The.muslim_wojak
      @The.muslim_wojak Рік тому +1

      Hamza is like the main reason this channel got so popular but okay. He always had the most entertaining debates at speakers corner. The views/likes can show that.

    • @trappedinexistence
      @trappedinexistence Рік тому

      @@The.muslim_wojak popularity =/= quality. I don't think being a toxic interlocutor is entertaining.

  • @cure4islamophobia649
    @cure4islamophobia649 Рік тому +1

    British study: Polygamy extends life and brings livelihood!
    5/28/2022, 3:17:41 AM
    British study: Polygamy extends life and brings livelihood!
    A new study recently conducted in Britain revealed that polygamy extends a man's life by up to 12% and leads to his happiness, in addition to that polygamy helps a man improve his professional and material conditions.
    A study conducted by researchers from the University of Sheffield, British, stated that “marriage to a second woman gives a man greater self-confidence and comfort, which enables him to realize all his projects and dreams, and that polygamy is a relative cause of happiness and prolongation of life, and the improvement of men’s general health. As well as his physical condition.”
    The researchers pointed out that “polygamy may be the secret of a happy life and a long life,” by looking at statistics prepared by the World Health Organization on countries that allow polygamy and the positive results of that;
    Including that a husband who is married to more than one woman increases his age by 12% more than his uncounted peers.
    The study indicated that "a man who marries more than one woman and has a large family receives better care during his adulthood and lives for a longer period for several considerations that were discussed in detail in the study."
    "If you have more than one wife who takes care of you, that in itself makes you live longer, and we also know that a married man lives longer than a bachelor," said researcher Lance Workman, a specialist in development psychology at Britain's Bath Spa University.
    The British researchers, “Fryn Elberg” and “Brown Smith” stated in their statements regarding the new study on the second marriage of a man that “a man’s association with another woman increases his longing for his first wife and this improves their marital relationship, and restores her activity and friendliness again, and the man is by nature He gets bored of the marital relationship after a while, as he becomes cold and between him and his wife what is called “marital silence.”
    It is worth mentioning that the study included more than 700 cases from different countries where polygamy is widespread, and it concluded that the second marriage of a man renews his relationship with the first and removes boredom and apathy from their married life and thus benefits the first wife.

    • @azmiamehboob583
      @azmiamehboob583 Рік тому

      NONSENSE! Even Allah SWT states in the Quran that its better to stick to 1 wife if one can't do justice. Polygamy is not for everyone.

  • @alih1214
    @alih1214 Рік тому

    جزاكم الله خيرا