The Star Fox Iceberg Explained
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2021
- I've had this project in the works for about a month now and I'm finally pretty happy with how it came out. It's a genuinely shocking coincidence this video finished the day Dinosaur Planet leaked, so I hope you'll find the time to enjoy this as you play it.
Sources used, though I probably missed something. Please let me know if I didn’t credit you.
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The Longplay Archive for the Adventures and Assault gameplay ( / longplayarchive )
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dude sounds like he has a stack of dimes for a neck
Ikr
this has got to be the most intuitive, negative, assumption i’ve ever read
And yet OP is chad enough to pin your comment on top.
_Niceeeee!_
What?
Grade 8 bully energy
Iceberg Creator here. It was a REAL pleasure working with you! If you have any questions about Kirby related stuff, you know who to call!
Kirby iceberg?
@@raiHo15 That's all on Wrenchy, no way I could do it justice.
I'm honestly a little disappointed you didn't add the bits regarding some found recordings for James McCloud's crew's discoveries of various mysteries in the Lylat System. Its mainly in a Japanese guide for Star Fox on the Super Famicom, but according to translators, it would provide hints and pictures on how to get to or see hidden portions of the game, such as Out of the Dimension. In addition, it adds some lore, such as how James died to Andross, and how one of his crewmen went missing upon finding 'a strange pheonix', which abruptly ends communication.
Was xevios being so far down just an offhand decision?
@@avalanchemkii7506 You’re really doing yourself a disservice by not at least playing the older Kirby games. They’re solid action-platformers. They’re all extremely easy, but it doesn’t make them any less fun and they hold up just as well as SMB3 and stuff.
Fact dump:
The Sar Fox franchise only has one spin-off, and that is Star Fox Guard, a tower defense game starring Slippy and his uncle. It was only available as a bonus physical disc in Star Fox Zero's first print, and then later as a digital download on the Wii-U eShop.
Nintendo and Jakks Pacific teamed up to create a whole line of Nintendo toys and action figures. One line featured the Star Fox team, Fox, Falco, Slippy and Peppy. In true collector's mindset, Jakks Pacific released a "Prototype Edition" Fox McCloud figure as a rare variant. Ironically, however, Falco is the most scarce of them all. I'm not even sure if they released a Prototype Edition of Falco, since Fox's Prototype is marked Series 2-2.
In an interview, Shigeru Miyamoto debunked the metal legs theory by stating they wear boots.
Nintendo hosted Super Star Fox Weekend all over North America and Europe to promote Star Fox before its official launch, which was a competition for the highest score (similar to the Donkey Kong Country competition). Prizes for winners included a Star Fox/Super FX t-shirt, a bomber jacket and a grand prize of either a trip for four to London, Paris, Sydney or Tokyo, or $15,000. Surviving competition cartridges are among the rarest in the SNES/SFC library.
For anyone who needs it:
0:00 Disclaimer + Intro
3:05 Tip of the Iceberg (The First Layer)
7:33 The Iceberg (The Second Layer)
16:49 Bottom of the Iceberg (The Third Layer)
21:05 Dark Water (The Fourth Layer)
28:18 The Abyss (The Fifth Layer)
38:01 Outro
You're welcome.
Wrenchy sent me here, it's great to see his iceberg being covered. Also your video was pretty damn good too :D
Love your videos Sunflower!
19:04 That theory was deconfirmed by Dylan Cuthbert and Miyamoto.
23:37 He teleports away. He does the same thing at the start of Dinosaur Planet at the Galleon, only to warp back and reclaim it after Krystal is finished with Warlock Mountain.
wait when was 19:04 confirmed?
Star fox zero...it was murdered by its own complex controls. Now Nintendo will think people don’t want a new starfox game.
Being on a console that failed to live up to expectations didn't help either. God I wish the franchise could catch a break
Maybe that Starlink game will show that the series is still loved, right?
@@markhirsch6301 nah unfornately not but idk maybe soon enough nintendo can revive it one day
Most of the context it grew and was released in was a recipe for disaster, though yeah a lot of people complained about the controls (and the lack of customization for them too)
I know :(.
everyone: shigeru, why did you hijack dinosaur planet?
Miamoto: you guys are acting like i didnt try to compromise. i wanted to put mario in the game, and tricky was gonna be toad.
@Guy Dude he's too busy selling consoles to make game.
Hey everyone, I'd really like to thank you for the fairly positive reception this video has received so far. That said, there are enough genuine flubs, points I missed having been further explained and, of course, Dinosaur Planet being officially released, that I'll likely be making a Part 2 to this video within the next month or so. If you have any insight as to what I could improve from a production or research perspective, by all means post them here.
So there's two kind of weird entries I'd like to add:
1. Fox's fur color
So without looking at anything or thinking, what do you immediately answer when I ask you what color Fox is? Brown? Yellow? Tan? Orange!? Yeah weird right? They just couldn't agree on a consistent design for the guy. A joked headcanon of mine is that he just simply has more of a "tan" in games lol.
2. The Arwing Segments in Adventures were only added to trick consumers and ruined the game more.
This is a theory I've always had to myself. It seems blatant that the only reason they were added was to go like "Haha no this was always normal Star Fox game, not something else before haha
@Kristopher Prime I'm not saying it's that drastic and has been more consistent lately but it definitely changes a lot. Compare Fox from 64 to Melee to Adventures to Assault to Brawl. It changes a lot. Heck compare him on the box of Adventures to in game for best results.
Also the eye color from black to green,unless something happened but i sworn 64 fox had black eyes then got changed during adventures and like i said before star fox arcade and how it affected assault's development (btw this part is just a theory) and also how q games (the co developers of command and 64 3d had trouble picturing the future of the series and Cuthbert going through many forums to find what made sf fans happy hences why command sucked imo and was so open ended
@@Starkiller156 Yes. Fox's eyes being black might just be a result of model limitations however in either Adventures or Assualt (I forget which off the top of my head) his eyes were a different color.
I don't know anything about Star Fox, but this seemed interesting and the video was still a lot of fun to watch! Great job! Your excitement for Dinosaur Planet made me really happy haha!
Even putting aside the content I just wanted to say this video was fantastic. You clearly put effort into your research, and your narration was phenomenal; looking forward to whatever else you may do in the future!
4:04 OMG I just realized... Einstein is canon in the StarFox universe
Great video dude! Extremely high quality especially since it's your first video ever uploaded. You've gained my sub dude. (also helps its a very interesting Iceberg, big fan of Starfox since I was like 10.)
Oh geez, of all the people to see in these comments, I never expected to see you! Big fan of your AVGN series, I actually had it on in the background several times during the editing phase.
@@avalanchemkii7506 oh really? Lol small world it seems. Well I'm glad you enjoy my stuff man, I'm looking forward to what you do next.
OH SHIET! Didn't notice ya in the comments! ❤
Randomly decided to look up N64 lore games, and wouldn't you know... You were on the list and what I was looking for. Thank you!
Star Fox could be a golden opportunity for Nintendo to try something new instead of just giving them another game, why not give them their own show or maybe a new comics series, they could try to make it a little bit like Sonic the hedgehog of expanding their franchise of having more new characters, new worlds to explore, improving their characters designs, personality, give them their own origins, as well as giving them character development as the story goes on, and rewrite the story like, in Star Fox Adventures, I wouldn't make Krystal be a damsel in distress when she was trapped in a magic crystal until Fox saves her at the end of the game. I was thinking to make her the main character in the story when she meets Fox for the first time, but she didn't like him at first because he was a stranger on her second home planet, and she tried to kill him because of misunderstanding, then they work things out, and decided to work together to accomplish their goals while also getting to know each other more. Star Fox is basically a mash-up of every known Sci-Fi film and shows that's ever been made, why can Nintendo expand on their franchise instead of focusing on Mario, Link, Pokemon, and Smash Bros?
EXACTLY!
@Jo Bossman Yeah me too.
@Jo Bossman I agreed with you, Nintendo should try something new instead of just giving them another game, why not give them their own show or maybe a new comics series about them, they could try to make it a little bit like Sonic the Hedgehog of expanding their franchise of having more new characters, new worlds to explore, improving their characters designs, personality, give them their own origins, as well as giving them character development as the story goes on, and add something to the story that wasn’t in the games, such as they could do some black ops missions, recon, assassinations, and etc. I mean, their mercenaries, they should do something like in Metal Gear, Call of Duty, Warframe, Halo, The Expendables, and anything that involves military and espionage.
Starfox assault had my favorite voice cast for all the characters they did an amazing job.
This is a pretty amazing video. Nice job. As a big Kirby fan, I guess you wouldn't mind some more info about the Dark Matter race. When it comes to them controlling technology, it might be possible(?) In Kirby 64, we do have two mechanical bosses though I am not sure if they are being controlled by Dark Matter or not however, we also have Star Dream from Kirby Planet Robobot, which is a powerful yet malevolent me chine that possibly influenced by the dark matter race, along with the other soul forms from the Kirby series though in Kirby Star Allies, it is revealed that Void Termina is the predecessor to not just the Dark Matter but also Kirby himself. Not sure if this info helps out in anyway and if any other Kirby fan here sees any errors in the comment, please let me know and correct me.
The Ocean Force Point Temple track still slaps 20 years later
This was a really good video. This deserves more more views. Now I'm interested in star fox again and really hope Nintendo gives the games a chance.
I had randomly been listening to videos about N64 games and lore.
Ever heard that theory about James being sucked into Out of This Dimension? I thought that was kinda terrifying.
god, I hope the rom of dinosaur planet get's "finished" and is dumped on an n64 repro cart for people to buy, similar to 40 winks n64.
I would buy that shit in a heart beat. Genuinely curious, who else would really want to see that?
This video is pretty great man! Didn't know about some of these facts. Didn't need to be reminded of that cheese grater image though...
Gotta say, I was trying to find a “history of” star fox and came across your iceberg, close enough lol and I was pleasantly surprised 🤌🏽 great video 🔥
Really cool video keep up with the good work.
23:37 Fun fact: General Scales does this in one of the first cutscenes in Dinosaur Planet, so thats probably why he can do it here. When removing that custcene, they must have just not cared that it disestablished he could do that
Yeah, that's something I'm definitely going to bring up in the follow up video. I actually played through Dinosaur Planet right after the video was uploaded, so I kind of winced when he does it so early on lol.
Not that they don't care, but they didn't have time. Remember the buy out, it was crippling.
His belt belong to Drakor, the orginal bad guy in DP. The belt had a lot of magical abilities, like teleporting. In the final game, the belt is only used in Cloud Runner Fortress.
Barely found your channel thanks to this video. Very sad to see you haven’t uploaded much, but hope everything is good with you.
After the destruction of Cerinia, Krystal set out across the galaxy, tracking the one responsible. She finally caught up with him on Sauria, but before she could do anything, he trapped her inside a crystal, because Nintendo is subtle. Once released by Fox though, she immediately recognizes her target again: Andross. Andross destroyed Cerinia, and Krystal tracked him to Sauria. She should have been the protagonist of the game. She should also be in Smash.
This video is good.
Video this good is.
this good video is
Weird as he is, as someone who has talked with Togepi, he’s a pretty chill man and even a doctor
Whoever made the Grater Image can suck a rotten egg tho
Idk anything about that one and I don't want to search and look for the image so could u maybe describe what is in the image plz?
@@spacefox4618 yeah I'm too scared to google it but I wanna know too
@@almond3066 see someone feels me
@@almond3066 Okay to put it lightly because even describing it apparently gets the comment deleted. So...What the image is about is a Raccoon getting...”cleaned out” with a cheese grater, in explicit detail
I didn't wanna get reminded of that cheese grater
I love all the furry references in this, and your getting overly awkward about them, we're over here laughin our asses off at the same 5 jokes
I thought it was really cool that Star Fox 64 3D actually brought back many of the original voice actors from the original Star Fox 64, and many of them even continued on into Star Fox Zero
I really enjoy your iceberg topic on Starfox since Starfox64 was my all time favorite^^
For "Ancient Aliens" I can make a few slightly educated guesses. On some planets you visit, there are obvious signs of ruins and temples, in 64 alone there's Aquas, Titania, and Venom as examples.
Not sure if that's what's being referred to, but wish I had better knowledge to theorize.
Yeah aquas, titania and venom did have civilizations that did go extinct
For anyone wondering, the metal legs theory was debunked by miyamoto himself in his interview with thejwittz
6:16 Krazoa was the most nuts ending. I get the feeling she was driven out of the Lylat System.
FYI, a much different Drakor boss-fight (possibly final battle) was found in the Dinosaur Planet beta.
Awesome video men! i was searching for an iceberg on star fox for a long time and is the ancient aliens not referring to Goras the boss in Titania that there was like an ancient civilization there?
Pretty good job! Could have done without the joke content and more regarding unused content (like the dinosaur villain intended for SF2 or playable Octoman in Command), but this is definitely a decent iceberg!
Thanks for the feedback. I'm actually almost finished with a follow up video addressing some of the stuff I missed, so I'll definitely try to include something about the Dinosaur villain. I can't say I've found anything about the playable Octoman in my research, do you have a source?
@@avalanchemkii7506 ua-cam.com/video/b_uiTB07Yjw/v-deo.html It's right here!! It might have been used as a test for the dogfight segments.
There are some other tidbits I can probably throw against a future iceberg, particularly regarding Command's rocky localization. I could send a PM if you would like me to.
@@graveyardsmash2711 Oh wow, I can't believe I never found this. I'll definitely include it in the follow up video. Do you know if any of the other enemies/bosses are used in a similar fashion?
Regarding a future Iceberg, I wasn't actually the one who made it, just this video explaining it. Wrenchy247 was the Iceberg's creator.
@@avalanchemkii7506 It's not known, but since Zazan (a fellow boss in Command) has a machine is very similar to Octoman's, perhaps his could be programmed in a similar manner.
I really liked this video. ^v^
I do believe you've earned a subscriber.
Yoo these iceberg vids are informative and inspire to play these games
I would add 3 entries to the iceberg actually
1: Fortuna meant to be called Fichina in 64, it wasn't because of translation but in Command and 64 3D they corrected it, but now in the cannon because of Zero both Fortuna and Fichina are seperate planets (Fichina being what we're used to aka snowy plany and Fortuna being all in the sky)
Side note before continuing, the next 2 entries are more like questions I ask myself about the franchise that I would really like to know the answer so if you got any info about it, please tell me.
2: Zoness before the pollution, we never see the true nature of Zoness, all thanks to Andross poluting the planet, I've heard somewhere that Zoness is also Falco's homeplanet but I dunno if that's true, but what Zoness looked like before the polution? Seeing how the land is, my best guess is Zoness would've looked like similar to Aquas since we don't see much land when we visit Zoness in missions (although there's a forteress because of Zero and a castle? Looking at guard...)
3: Is James really dead or not? Everyone says he's dead (not mentioning Peppy constantly annoying Fox about it...) yet, he appears in the true end of 64, he appears as a playable character in one mission of Command and also appears in Zero... and seemingly no one aknowladge his presence aside of Fox (well TBF also i Andross in Zero with his line: "Why don't you stay dead?") so... what mainly Fox sees... is it like James ghost or spirit? Or is he still alive but just... hiding?
I think Fortuna and Fichina always were separate planets, and also they are two different locations in Assault
EDIT : and afaik Fichina is the name in all versions of 64
This definitely needs timestamps.
The Saber Apparition is almost certainly a reference to the Wario Apparition from the Mario Iceberg that inspired the Every Copy is Personalized pasta
I Hope we get a New Star Fox Game Soon It's about Time.
i vividly remember watching my brother play a 3rd person star fox game involving dinosaurs at a friends house were you played as krystal but i was very young and don't remember to much about it. Could this have been some kind of dinosaur planet demo???
13:13 I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT PIECE THAT ONE WAS BECAUSE *I KNEW* I HAD LISTENED TO IT SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHEN BECAUSE I HEARD AND STILL LISTEN TO A LOT OF CLASSICAL MUSIC, ESPECIALLY JOHANN STRAUSS (aaaand I also usually forgot to research this further, thank you so much)
13:19 This one refers to the civilizations that used to live on planets like Aquas, Titania and Venom that went extinct.
Aquas' civilization went extinct because Bacoon felt envy towards them whilst Titania and Venom's civilizations went extinct because of the change of the planets' environment
one last thing i would add to the video and to the iceberg unless the creator added it,that being a scrapped star fox game called star fox arcade that was only in concept for a few months and silently cancelled,keep in mind this was around the time of assault so i have a quick theory, basically either assault was rushed due to this arcade game or assault was going to be a bigger game than it ended up being like that in story wise more missions were planned and possibly more story branches akin to 64 might've been shared across the 2 games just for food for thought?
Iceberg Videos are awesome, and they have more Informations, however I have advices to improve the Iceberg Videos:
1) Make Short Intro - Tell which Iceberg you would explain and tell Important informations.
2) Be concise during the explanation - Keep the right pacing and Don't make the Video too long.
3) Use a life meter to show your confidence during the Explanation - this helps during the last layers, and it's used in most of the Iceberg videos, for example the "Mario 64 Iceberg" of Mish Koz.
Great 1st Video.
Wait, xevios in assault is so far down, that's an easy one to find out
idk why falco reminds me of aaron rodgers
Woah, it was found the day you uploaded this? You should totally make a video on it, I'm subbing in case you do.
Yep lol I woke up a couple hours after it was found, so I was pretty floored. I'm making a minor corrections video with some of the additional information we've gleamed from Dinosaur Planet, but so much is being found so quickly, I want to wait on making a proper video for it until we have a very good idea how much is actually present.
What’s the name of the song you used as background music for the very beginning? It’s so familiar and I can’t quite recall where it’s from!
You gatta redo this iceberg and get rid off the ones that make literally no sense.
Hey everyone, I just posted a Follow Up video to this where I address some of the information that was incorrect in this video, as well as some of the points on the Iceberg I had clarified in the comments. It's very much a companion piece to this, so please check it out if you'd like a little bit more context for this video; ua-cam.com/video/na985Wlszfg/v-deo.html
shout outs to the macro falco guy. doin what he loves and doin it with pride. i aspire to have that kind of strength
Hey just realized you know how tricky says star fox look out in adventures well that audio of krystal saying starfox look out was meant for crystal to say when she figured out it was a trap btw this might prove that starfox and krystal might have been supposed too stay together by each others side in dinosaur planet.
Hey there, just a question, might have been answered in part two - but is the ancient aliens a reference to the fact that both Venom in Star Fox 64, and the whole of Dinosaur planet implies ancient species before the games.
S = 5
do not be afraid
you will be saved
the basilisk has been with you
Hmm, 40 minutes isn't much of an iceberg for me.
When i hear iceberg i expect at least an hour, all the way up to a 4 hour HBomberguy rabbit hole.
I would have loved a Starfox rabbit hole of significant depth to raise untold numbers of Rabb-fox-its, and no offense, 40 mintes is just enough time to make a jug of slow-waffles while blending 7 cans of cat food into a liquid that my cat will actually drink. I timed it.
So, maybe with a longer video i could have gotten some laundry done, but it is important to put my cat food into a blender, because 1) picky cat wants liquid lunch, and 2) i bought 12 cans of füd that kibby won't eat.
So, fun Starfox mini-iceberg, hoping for next time 90 minute video runtine, during which i can convert 3 cardboard boxes into a kibby kastle, complete with arrow loopholes, and a functional drawbridge (no moat, i want my cleaning deposit back)
great video
At 25:49 you didnt mention the lynx.but overall this is a perfect video
yeah, combat pilots would never use stimulants
I loved the video; good work!! By the way, what is the song at 28:19?
That's the theme for the first portion of the final level in Assault.
Fun fact. Someone made a Half Life mod where it replaces Alyx with Krystal and VOICED BY THE OG KRYSTAL VOICE ACTOR.
25:43 this could be seen as a link between starfox and atlus
Just found this video now on its anniversary lol
3:05 start of iceberg
Jim Walker was my favorite Fox VA. He sounds like a professional military leader.
Should check out/review the Star Fox Event Horizon project.
No joke, my stomach sank when I saw Togepi 1125's name come up. Not because he's a bad person or anything, just... You are opening Pandora's Box with the mere mention of that name and subject matter...
my emperor i've failed you
I just subbed to u man :)
What about the AFoxInSpace show!?
Played Starfox 2 at Nintendo Redmond when I was a kid. Only one to beat the game. Oh the things I'd do for that old cart.
I decided to look up the cheese grater image and I will just say it people are way overreacting over the image yeah it's bloody but it's not that bad, it's subpar compared to most stuff on the internet.
17:50 I meeeeeeeeean....
Wait, the the internet being horrified of a cheese grater is based off of a image? I thought it was originally based off a text story on 4chan about a guy that got paid to hang out with a wannabe dirty film crew only to end up with a butt that would qualify as swiss cheese while crying about the horrible decision they made. The text story goes into detail about it and my god do you feel horrible after reading it.
it's a raccoon and cheese grater... making some minis.
I've always felt the Star Fox adventure games are the greatest missed opportunity of the Nintendo line up.
They dived into the adventure genre in the worst way possible by reskinning a completely different game. And then instead of backtracking the mistake for Assault, the canonized it when they should have rebooted it right then an there. Zero came eventually, but still. I feel like the best Starfox game has yet to be made. The slow pace of Adventures, the gameplay of Assault, and polish of Zero.
32:29 no... No!.. NOO!! NOT YOU!
Have a Star Fox Game that plays like a Mass Effect game. You meet characters along the way, and on flight missions you get to pick 3 others. Then you can have conversations with your team. Also, You should be able to have a romance with Krystal or another female. Speaking of which, Cat could eventually join, then have Fay and Miyu join too. So you would have 7 pilots to choose from as they join you. Then Star Wolf could expand too. Nintendo would have a hit on their hands.
I have never played a Mass Effect game and tbh your idea sounds like a fanfiction author's wet dream but I love it 😄 (as long as they don't screw up the gameplay part I'm in)
@@TinNovaKiin Perfect timing. The legendary edition of Mass Effect came out... play it and tell me I’m wrong ;)
@@johnboy4025 I suppose I'll inevitably play a ME game one day, but sadly I have to catch up on other older classics. My opinion on it in several years I guess 😅
Why can't I just be a girl and get with falco? XD
@@thestellarfalco5528 you could make Fox female... new direction for the franchise
the apparition was a reference to the Mario 64 iceberg
video starts at 3:05
25:40 you know personally I think it would be cool to see a human alongside animal characters. I mean after all, humans are animals, and if all the different species of foxes, rabbits, etc, can exist, why not humans?
Well there's Starlink
It would be really cool if someone found the original version of Croc that was being developed starring Yoshi and finally proved that Miyamoto is a hack piece of shit who doesn’t deserve half the recognition he gets.
Imagine if adventures never existed and rare released dinosaur planet
Nintendo's star fox vs Microsoft's dinosaur planet would be an interesting comparison
17:52 wearing all these tight jumpsuits and all...Iam sure they are
Man I wish Nintendo would make more Star Fox games.
If there is anyone that knows, I need a explanation on the krystal with a sandwich, raccoon, cheese grater, and third pocket??? I'm not trying to look into it because the way he said sounds like it might be something I need to bleach my eye balls. If anyone knows what it is, please give me a explanation on what this is...
from what I've heard, the third pocket is what the raccoon has, and I think it's the butt.
The cheese grater is alive and, well, you can figure it out.
@@PigBoy99 ohh... ok I fully understand now, thx
@@spacefox4618 actually, it was a partner using the cheese grater from what I looked up
@@PigBoy99 ...
28:11
TO LATE, 15 YEARS TO LATE!
zero will get the love it deserves one day. just like assault has
32:38 Fucking cheese grater raccoon...don’t fucking remind me...fml
Out of this dimension?
Oh God, black text on black background...
I through to make a Star Fox Iceberg Video, but never mind, You did a Good Work. (At least I have other Icebergs to make)
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Video starts 3:06
Mike Oldfield???? As in the composer/songwriter?????
As it turns out, yep. I'll be addressing it in the follow up video.