I worked with an Austrian who at 16/17yo was part of the last call up into the German army. With no training he was given a uniform and assigned the job of courier because he could already ride a motorcycle. In the area he was located the war petered out and the other soldiers disappeared. He had the motorcycle, was close to his home and had enough petrol to get there and off he went. His home was in the Russian occupation zone and with the Russians seizing all German military equipment he disassembled it, wrapped it in oily rags then into some wooden crates which he buried under the dry ground under a barn. After Austria's occupation ended he retrieved the motorcycle, painted the army colours red, reassembled it and had himself a nice motorcycle. He sold it before emigrating to Australia.
I love the story. I spend some of my childhood in west Turkey (the 70's). One of the neighbors had a Willy's jeep. The story was that a sergeant in the Turkish army ,served in Korea during the Korean war. He was in charge of a repair shop and send to his home in Turkey a complete jeep in parts during the year. Lets call it barrowed spare parts. At the time the Turkish postal services hadn't much of an adres system in the 50's so many parts ended up scattered in the village. When he never returned some people started to put the vehicle together. Our neighbor was one of them. He bought it from the soldiers family. I learned to drive in it, at the age of 12 in his vine yard.
@@offgridcabinbelgium- In the 1970s you could buy an (unused) surplus Jeep from WWII and/or Korean War era in a wooden crate here in the United States for around $800.00 USD. My Uncle almost purchased one to use as a hunting vehicle.
I once ran an underwater archaeological survey in a German river. We found only ceramic mineral water bottle sherds, a switchblade knife, and someone's wedding ring recently discarded. A tank of any model would have been most welcome!
I was born and raised in Schwerin in northern Germany. I remember as a child we went swimming in the Schweriner See with our school class. Somebody found a metal tube sticking out of the mud near the shore. We dug it up and it turned out to be a Panzerfaust, with its warhead still attached. Police was called and so on. A lot of ammo and guns were dumped into the lake at the end of the war. Funny coincidence: i later lived near Paderborn and also took a bath in the Edersee!
Friend of mine is from Carinthia in a tiny local lake they kept on losing fishing lures , weights, and hooks in one area. A local fisherman lost an expensive pike lure, he went home and made himself a pretty strong magnet from an old tractor dynamo, to try and retrieve it. Dropped it on the spot, immediately bagged a Panzerfaust and a Machinegunbarrel. Police came, Army divers and EOD, pulled like 500kg of various war leftovers out.
Back in the 1970s a friend of mine's father spent world war 2 as a US army ranger. One of his favorite stories that he would tell us what's how they blew up the bridge crowded with German armor. A decade or so later he went back to the lake that the bridge crossed and could see the armor still in the bottom of the lake. Another high school friend I had, father was in the Hitler youth at the end of WW2. He often talked about how he spent the last two weeks of the war in Europe hiding and burying military arms to be dug up when the third Reich rose again. It is very possible that there are significant amounts of German military hardware from WW2 still to be found.
@@smokeybear1597 He buried the weapons in the 1940s. Why would he STILL be hiding them? They were probably never found, and if they were would likely be rotted as it's very hard to bury things for that long back in the 40s and them still be not degraded now
How is it possible that with todays modern equipment the EXACT location of the tank is in question? I would think the German military would view such a recovery as a tremendous opportunity to train and practice recovery operations and munitions disposal.
Not when they can do the same on their own training grounds and equipment without needing to do a ton of paperwork and deal with sundry other bureaucracies. Also, the Bundeswehr does not have a mission profile of recovering and disposing of ancient corroded equipment, other than quickly and cheaply demolishing it. Which obviously is not ideal here. There is no private motivation because the wreck can't be claimed and sold, and there is no public motivation because there is no public interest in disturbing a nature area and most Germans are not interested in another reminder of their dark past. So it is left to the peace of its muddy grave.
If you spend enough time in Germany (I spend about half my time here) you'd soon realise that Bomb Disposal teams here still have enough ordinance to deal with all the time that NEEDS to be dealt with because people live next to it...rather than to bother to go looking for stuff at some unpopulated, underwater site. Every year where I stay in Hannover whole areas still have be evacuated regularly to allow Bomb Disposal teams to deal with unexploded bombs. They don't have time to waste with stuff that may lie at the bottom of a lake.
- most probably exactly as you state, which is an eternal pitty as despite all this is a valuable piece of german history, even if dark one, heck, world's history, still far from most historical object found and hailed have blameless history....
It would be interesting to know how much water the Edersee had in 1945. In 2022 the Edersee had only one fifth of its body of water due to a serious drought.
I just read about it, the dam was blown up when they sunk the tank and the water level was 1/3 back then. Even with serious draught it`s much higer water level than back then. So theres propably 2-4m mud over it and 20m water far away from shore. So even if it`s found it will be very expensive to get it.
not to forget that over so many years it could have possible drifted even further into the lake there is bunkers on the normandy shores that have drifted fromm all the way up the beach to the bottom of the shore@@cleanTron
When I was a kid, I recall my friends grandfather telling me about his time in WWII as a Mosquito mechanic. He said there was a huge crater on the runway after a German bombing raid on their airfield. They were ordered to fill in the crater with anything because the mosquitoes were coming back from a raid at any moment. The nearest thing was a brand new boxed Merlin engine, which they rolled into the hole and covered it. He said up to the point of him being demobbed at the end of the war, the engine had never been excavated from the runway. I wish I knew which airfield it was!
I spent three years in a West German boarding school in the 70's. Plön, Schleswig Holstein. There was an Marineunteroffizierschule on Plönersee. (still there) Dönitz was actually there at the very end of the war. One of my teachers used to tell us stories how, as a kid British soldiers used to pay them to dive into the lake and retrieve guns, knives various war swag the Germans had thrown into the lake. Funny, hadn't thought about that in years. Here I am now older than my teacher was when he told the stories. Who knows what else might still be down there. Thanks, Mark!
My understanding is that the steel on old sunken battleships is valued because it has never been exposed to the ambient radiation in the atmosphere in a post-nuclear world. I am left to wonder if these tanks, TDs, assault guns and armored vehicles have also been protected by the various lakes, rivers, streams and bogs they've been submerged in for nearly a century.
We can make new low-background steel now, as nuclear tests have been banned (everywhere except North Korea, which does the smart thing and tests underground in any case) long enough for half lives to matter. Even if that weren't the case, we have the tech now to make zero-background steel, removing all radionuclides from the carbon to be used, though if we had to do that for all such steel it would be staggeringly expensive.
@slammsonite1 while the value of "low - background" metals has dropped to low value, the bulk steel and machined metals of Naval and passenger ships has a value in bulk. That is why several old shipwrecks that are also War Graves from WWII and other disasters have been disappearing in the Pacific and Indian Ocean combat areas, and commercial shipping areas (ships of especially complex metal parts, and largely Allied combat ships are most identified as now "missing, presumed lost", where once they had been found. ..).
my auntie husband who was a fisherman(using those large square nets) used to tell me there is a ww2 tank stuck in the mud in a riverside where he used to go fishing (Hortobágy is the name of the river, it is in a national park now), the half turret of the tank was visible around the seventies but now it is completely gone
The dam was built between 1908 and 1914, not 1941 as the video says. There is a beech tree near the dam, called the Kaiser's Beech, because the Kaiser is said to have rested here during a visit to the dam construction site in 1911.
Hello Mr Felton, I live 80kms away from the Edersee. In the last decade there was nearly no water in the lake. As a young diver I made some dives there. 20yrs later I walked there over dry stones, showing the old village, the monastry and the cemetry to my children. A tank could be everywhere, but not in the Eder…
Sehe icch auch so. Ich wohne auch in der Nähe und habe diese Geschichte schon länger verfolgt. Auch Anwohner befragt. keiner Weiß etwas darüber oder will nichts sagen.
Its weight took it deep into the mud. You probably wouldn't see it unless the entire lake was drained and ground penetrating radar was used to locate it.
Thank you for posting so frequently, Dr. Felton. I do hope they recover it, even though you say that is not likely at all. I guess I just cannot imagine that they would just leave it there... even after it has already spent so much time there already.
The only reason for our authorities to start making recovery plans would be a possible water poisoning from rotting ammunition. But unless there is no acute danger, it is considered to be less harmful not to disturb rotting old iron in low oxygen enviroment, since it is fairly stable, where it rests. Nobody will spend any money here to recover anything related to Hitler. Won't happen.
@@martincrotty211 The issue is the live munitions on board. I'm not sure of the potency of 70 yr old explosives submerged in water but there's enough on board the tank to seriously mess up someone's day. Every spring in France the frost pushes up old munitions that are still live and dangerous and have to be disposed of.
Some minor corrections to your video. The Edertalsperre was actually build 1908 - 1914. It is located around 20 miles southwest of Kassel, where the King Tigers were almost exclusively build. If there really is a King Tiger in the Edersee it also could be one of those used to defend Kassel in March 1945. Since the water level of the Edersee in the last summers was at an all time low it should be increasingly possible to find this tank in the next years. As always a great video!
Well, the Edersee(-Talsperre even more famous because of the Brits dambuster event) isn’t really close to Paderborn, but close to Kassel, where AFAIK German tanks have been build. JFTR
I was at the Edersee in 2017 and 2018 where there was a historical low water level (at least that was what the hotel owner said). In that year you could visit the ruins (foundations) of the sunken houses and even an fairly intact old bridge - unfortunately did not find a Tiger II
I used to build models as a kid and quite a majority were military models, especially tanks. I always thought the Germans had the best looking stuff, especially tanks. Maybe not very reliable in real life but I always thought their tanks were the coolest looking of all. I went last year to a military museum near where I live which had a number of tanks from WW2 and above. They actually had a fully restored Panzer V Panther tank on display. First time I'd ever been next to a real WW2 German tank. Really overwhelming and blew me away how big those things really were.
If you ever get a chance go to the bovington tank museum in Dorset England. It’s top notch and has an unrivalled collection which includes the only working tiger 1 in the world.
@@goldenfiberwheat238If it's the same one I'm thinking of, it was a perfectly functional tank. Not demilled or anything. He used to drive it around the small town he lived it once in a great while
Fifteen years ago I was working in Hungary. I met an old man who was a boy during the war. He remembered the Germans retreating through his village on Lake Balaton. He saw two light weight tanks driven into the lake so they would not fall into the hands of the advancing Red Army. He thought that they they were still in the lake.
@@aaroncourchene4384 could be, you have to remember he was than a boy and recalling an event 50+ years prior. "Tank" could have been any tracked vehicle. The point is he had lived in that area all his life and thought they were still there under the water.
@@davidh6300 I have not been back since but from what he said fifteen years ago they were still there. He lived there all his life and would have known if they had been salvaged.
I don't know if Mark is aware but there is a youtuber named Historiou that has been plagiarizing his videos and getting sponsorships and patreon donations off Mark's stolen work and several other history youtubers. Please vote this up so Mark has a better chance of seeing this comment everyone .
The 3 Big Cats - Tiger, Konigstiger, and Panther - are beautiful and awesome monsters, a pleasure to behold and worth a visit to the museums that have them on display.
Late lake recuvery: in the 90th (when I was a Child) a friend found an old Mouser 98k. In a tiny lake in the center of our village. His farther restored it to working order. This still amaises me.
It must be at a considerable depth given that no boats have run into it. It would be very interesting to see how much damage the water had done over the decades.
If it's buried deep enough in the mud it might still be in pretty good condition. There have been lots of finds of all kinds or normally fairly perishable items that were remarkably preserved because they found buried deep in mud which kept oxygen out, which is a key to preserving things over time.
I live very close to the Edersee and I’m there pretty much weekly, even driving boats there. Very interesting to hear that there seems to be such a tank still around without ever finding it. During the summer, the Edersee is usually very empty and you can even walk through the old towns, at least the rest of it.
Daar Marc, The Edersee (-Dam) was constructed between 1908 and 1914, instead of 1941. I visited it many times, and know a bit about its history. The “dambuster raid” also included this Dam in 1943. .. After very hot summers, lets say sept./okt. You still can see the remainders of An old village, cemitary, church and bridge. The waterlevel can fall as much as 15-25 meters. The banks are rather steep , for me it is highly unlikely for a massieve tank te be scutteled there. I come to this area for some 45 years and never heard the locals mentioning this lost Tiger story. Best regards from the Netherlands.
Reminds me of the quest to located the 1850s steam locomotive "Rhein" which fell into the river she was named after on delivery and has railway enthusiasts searching for it for the last few years, but that is complicated by the river having changed course several times since 1852. Last time they dug they found nothing. Though Edersee is a reservoir (it was in fact one of the targets of the Dambuster raid) it might pop up if the lake is extremely empty
Yes, but like steam loc Rhein, it is may covered with mud and for the steam loc Rhein, some experts believe, it dissolved in rust, nothing to be left. The Rhine river changes its glow, but not in the last 200 years. The problem is, the exact location of the accident had been forgotten.
The recovery of these vehicles sounds like a plot for reality TV show very similar to The Curse of Oak Island. Without a shadow of a doubt I would definitely be watching every episode if this ever became a TV series.
The story of Oak island fascinated me years before the TV show came out. I can't watch the show anymore cuz they've found basically nothing and the series has gone on too long; feels like they're just milking it now.
The museum at Fort Knox has two French WWI tanks. They were found in a junkyard in Afghanistan. Both were in pieces but a couple of US Army personnel recognized the parts as tank parts. None of the locals had any idea how the two tanks ended up there. They were restored and now are an exhibit at the Fort Knox museum.
You would think getting a potential large bomb like a tank loaded with aging and unstable ammunition out of a conservation area would be more of a priority.
ITs been fine for 80+ years now. The propellant and shells are almost surely degraded to inert and being at the bottom of a muddy lake is about the safest place it could be.
I wouldn't think that because it's not a large bomb, just a steel can quite capable of dampening any internal detonation of its remaining munitions if any. The world doesn't revolve around diverting real money and real people to retrieve every artifact to entertain plebs.
Some minor correction: 1.) The Edersee, where I spent my holidays more often than once in my childhood ist not "close" to Paderborn. Actually the distance is around 100 km. The Edersee is way closer to Kassel - Paderborn is not even in the same state (Paderborn = NRW, Kassel = Hessen). Kassel is also the larger City and therefore your statement is wrong, maybe because you wanted to get an easier link to your Paderborn King Tiger Ambush video? ;-)
In the 1970s (Rotorua, New Zealand) there was an Avenger torpedo bomber and a Valentine tank in a children's play area in a CBD public park. The Avenger went to MOTAT in Auckland around 1980. The Valentine was sold in the mid-1990s and has been fully restored and lives in Luxembourg!
In the US I’ve went to see the USS Cairo a Union gunboat sunk in the Yazoo river in Mississippi it was raised and is now on display. I’d love to see those raised tanks in Europe👍
I have one for you sir, speaking of German tanks in large bodies of water. I have heard that the WWI German tank the AV7, 1 is of course in Australia, but a second one was found upside down in a river in Poland. I was wondering if you could do a video on that and verify its there and any word on recover?
The way the climate's been afffecting German water courses ....... just be patient Meh. By the time it emerges folk'll be worrying about other things - Like 'We haven't any water' [Just no pleasing some people I suppose 🙄 ]
Lots of stuff from ww2 has been found and will be found. From destroyed guns to well preserved machine guns. In a nearby village, there is a small chapel outside the town. In the 1970s they had to tear down the chapel and rebuild it some meters away. When they teared up the chapel, they found 2 K98k in best condition. They made it a present to the local gunclub of the town. It was well hidden placed in the chapel. In 1944 one b17 crashed on the tennisfield of a nearby town. In 2017 when they had to do underground manage things, they found an engine of the crashed b17.
Speaking of stuff under the water, mark, you should do a video about all the sea mines that broke loose from their moorings and being hame a hazard the shipping lanes in the sixties
Another fascinating page of history by yourself... thanks Mark! I would recommend to all a place you mentioned; TheAuto und Tecknic museum in Sinsheim, Germany. For anyone with an interest on military vehicles, whether land or air, it is certainly worth a visit. Thanks again
Another awesome n least known info. Those archival films n still pics are most effective in ur presentation. Sadly this particular King Tiger wont be excavated n placed on display. Kudos for story. Anticipating ur next story. Peace
I got really excited when I saw this notification. I thought it was Episode 3 of Finding the Führer. At least there's still some Mark Felton content! ❤
Also there are supposed to be several Jagdpanzers in some swamp in north Germany but forgot where. It was on a german language (serious) wehrmacht forum a few years back and opinions were divided on them being still there. The story was similar. Last days of the war their unit ditched them there and went home
The King Tiger is found and refurbished. At the press conference, the sixth reporter to ask a question is clearly Labrov with a fake mustache and glasses saying "can I borrow it?"
When I was on a work placement in Finnish Lapland one of the National Park workers found a vermacht helmet leaning against a tree. I know from personal experience how easy it is in a trackless pine forest to walk 100 feet and then have absolutely very little idea where you started from . It would be very easy to lose a helmet - maybe not a tank - out there. It still had fragments of leather strapping on it .
There some mistakes in this video. 1. The Edersee was built 1908 - 1914 and not in 1941. 2. It is not near Paderborn, but near Kassel. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edersee
When you see the amounts of weapons, kit and explosives pulled from lakes and rivers by various youtubers its pretty certain that someone is going to find and hopefully recover a big tank before long.
If a King Tiger had been rolled into a river or lake, it would be very close to the shore, and it would be easy to make a cofferdam and retrieve it. Wouldn't take $250,000... that's ludicrous.
There was a legend when in I was stationed in munsterlager (huge German garrison/ training area going back to before WW1) that a panther was in the fluggenhofsee after having had issues at the next door rail flats that we ourselves used to embark tanks for the gulf war... apparently it was blocking the tracks, they shifted it out the way and it ended up in the lake...
Its hard enough to get the mud to let loose of a stolen boot, cant imagine how much trouble a submerged king tiger would be. If they are able to, i hope somebody videos it.
I think you had a video on a WW2 german veteran that had a Tiger in his basement. That was dmn good shocker, because they've discovered it a lot later 😂
@@dd-gl2qf : I believe the German Government confiscated it from him. Which probably deters investors finding and reclaiming these old tanks and equipment. I would love to see this tank in the Bovington Tank Museum.
Seeing a king tiger in person, the sheer size of it was amazing, that technique and Auto museum is a must visit too ! The mercedes Unimog museum is not far away either
A tiger would create a huge signal to a magnetometer if they swept the lake. Obviously it must be close to the shoreline, so that narrows the sweeping area considerably. The real problem is German lack of enthusiasm to actively seek out WWII relics.
Just look for a shelving beach/entrance to the water on that lake. They wouldn't drop it off a cliff, the Tiger needs to enter the water at less than 40 degrees, so just concentrate the shoreline search at those locations. I think they could find it within hours, but the Germans don't want to.
It's actually German intransigence at work here and elsewhere. The "local" government has all sorts of ploys (environmental, community noise/disrution, you name it) to stop this kind of thing. The big message is: WWII is over and we don't want anything at all coming out from that period. Japan is exactly the same, but they didn't have any interesting/impressive weapons. @@idanceforpennies281
I love your content and can't stop watching them. is there a way for you to improve the voice recording? at the beginning of each segment your first word is never heard. somehow the recording picks it up with a minor delay.
I love it when museums leave historical artifacts unrestored. 1:20 There's an air museum in California that "restored" an airplane that was under water for 70 years. Looked worse than that tank. Today the plane looks new. It's a new plane! It's like restoring Lizzy Borden's axe, new head and handle, restored! 😂
Always hate it when restorers overpaint original surviving camouflage. In some cases the corrosion is so bad they can’t do much else but in so many cases rather than restore the tank in its last known state they paint it in the latest fashionable camo scheme, which after five years turns out to be wrong!
Not all restored aircraft are in flying condition. Many are too frail and restored to static display for museums. I agree with you when they are left in their as-found condition. That's a real deal compared to aircraft with more than half of their skin being replaced.
very close to herlisheim a small village in the elsass region of which you have also made a video talking about 2 panther tanks i have found increible amounts of amunition in one of the most used lakes to take a bath in during the summer time. no 15 meters from the shore a simple magnet on a rope has made us unearth anything from 8mm mauser rounds to steel helmets and incredibly enough multible nearly prestine leather harnesses and mp40 magazine pouches during the retreat into the core german teritory over the rhine our soldiers msut have throughn all heavy things away and disposed of it in lakes and on the side of rodes
there are lots of wreck German tanks all over western and eastern Europe lakes and rivers but hopeful they will be recovered and do restoration to put like display in a museum or restored to working order like Tiger 131. great story Dr felton.
If that is a protected conservation area I wonder if they could somehow get public funds to get the rusting steel, oil, and possibly explosives that is that King Tiger out of the lake. Seems like a win win for everyone involved
Dear Mr. Felton: at 2:20 you said, the Eder-Damm was constructed in 1941. But i am pretty sure that it was finished in 1914. EDIT: And a big thank you for that really interessting video!
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I worked with an Austrian who at 16/17yo was part of the last call up into the German army. With no training he was given a uniform and assigned the job of courier because he could already ride a motorcycle. In the area he was located the war petered out and the other soldiers disappeared. He had the motorcycle, was close to his home and had enough petrol to get there and off he went. His home was in the Russian occupation zone and with the Russians seizing all German military equipment he disassembled it, wrapped it in oily rags then into some wooden crates which he buried under the dry ground under a barn. After Austria's occupation ended he retrieved the motorcycle, painted the army colours red, reassembled it and had himself a nice motorcycle. He sold it before emigrating to Australia.
Wrapping it in oily rags is the most important part of that.
I love the story. I spend some of my childhood in west Turkey (the 70's). One of the neighbors had a Willy's jeep. The story was that a sergeant in the Turkish army ,served in Korea during the Korean war. He was in charge of a repair shop and send to his home in Turkey a complete jeep in parts during the year. Lets call it barrowed spare parts. At the time the Turkish postal services hadn't much of an adres system in the 50's so many parts ended up scattered in the village. When he never returned some people started to put the vehicle together. Our neighbor was one of them. He bought it from the soldiers family. I learned to drive in it, at the age of 12 in his vine yard.
There was a lot of trucks appropriated across Europe as well by Farmers
When i was a kid we found ww1 revolver in the fields, we had a equipment to play cowboys and indians
@@offgridcabinbelgium- In the 1970s you could buy an (unused) surplus Jeep from WWII and/or Korean War era in a wooden crate here in the United States for around $800.00 USD. My Uncle almost purchased one to use as a hunting vehicle.
I once ran an underwater archaeological survey in a German river. We found only ceramic mineral water bottle sherds, a switchblade knife, and someone's wedding ring recently discarded. A tank of any model would have been most welcome!
Finding a tank nowadays would be almost impossible
Discarded, not lost? Thereby hangs a tale...
@@Oligodendrocyte139 Seems legit; I threw mine off the Zugspitze in 1994.
@@dereksanderson2031 To confuse future archaeologists 😀
@@Oligodendrocyte139 Yes, with any luck an ape named Doctor Cornelius.
I was born and raised in Schwerin in northern Germany. I remember as a child we went swimming in the Schweriner See with our school class. Somebody found a metal tube sticking out of the mud near the shore. We dug it up and it turned out to be a Panzerfaust, with its warhead still attached. Police was called and so on. A lot of ammo and guns were dumped into the lake at the end of the war. Funny coincidence: i later lived near Paderborn and also took a bath in the Edersee!
If you find an enigma machine in the lake, it's mine. I "misplaced" it, too much alcohol, not enough caffeine.
Friend of mine is from Carinthia in a tiny local lake they kept on losing fishing lures , weights, and hooks in one area.
A local fisherman lost an expensive pike lure, he went home and made himself a pretty strong magnet from an old tractor dynamo, to try and retrieve it.
Dropped it on the spot, immediately bagged a Panzerfaust and a Machinegunbarrel.
Police came, Army divers and EOD, pulled like 500kg of various war leftovers out.
Are they worth anything these days?@@Lonovavir
Looks like its worth magnet fishing in Europe then@@marcusott2973
@ThePhantom712 : Based on the fact that M 209s (the American cipher machine) costs money I'd say yes.
Everyone: "Panzer of the Lake, share your wisdom"
Panzer of the Lake: "Always watch Mark Felton videos"
Exactly dude
Panzer of the lake: " never vote for Trump"
Panzer of the Lake: "I cannot eat fish"
@@kbanghart are you sure that's what it say? i heard quite the opposite
Most wise!
Its mine... I forgot where I parked it guys. Sorry
Did you at least have an oil change and check the treads for wear and tear before parking it?
Dude, where's my tank?
Happens to the best of us mate
We've been trying to reach you about an extended warranty.
😂
Back in the 1970s a friend of mine's father spent world war 2 as a US army ranger. One of his favorite stories that he would tell us what's how they blew up the bridge crowded with German armor. A decade or so later he went back to the lake that the bridge crossed and could see the armor still in the bottom of the lake. Another high school friend I had, father was in the Hitler youth at the end of WW2. He often talked about how he spent the last two weeks of the war in Europe hiding and burying military arms to be dug up when the third Reich rose again. It is very possible that there are significant amounts of German military hardware from WW2 still to be found.
do you know if you're friends father is still hiding the military arms or are they dug up and in storage.
Lots of old tunnels waiting to be explored in Germany, that the Interior Ministry won't grant access to. Tino von Struckmann is finding that out.
@@smokeybear1597 He buried the weapons in the 1940s. Why would he STILL be hiding them? They were probably never found, and if they were would likely be rotted as it's very hard to bury things for that long back in the 40s and them still be not degraded now
they know what's in them state funds *wink* @@dangvorbei5304
@@dangvorbei5304Can you recommend any of his videos where he talks about this?
How is it possible that with todays modern equipment the EXACT location of the tank is in question? I would think the German military would view such a recovery as a tremendous opportunity to train and practice recovery operations and munitions disposal.
It's been underwater, buried in mud for 80 years. Even with good radar equipment, it could easily be mistaken as lake debris.
Not when they can do the same on their own training grounds and equipment without needing to do a ton of paperwork and deal with sundry other bureaucracies. Also, the Bundeswehr does not have a mission profile of recovering and disposing of ancient corroded equipment, other than quickly and cheaply demolishing it. Which obviously is not ideal here.
There is no private motivation because the wreck can't be claimed and sold, and there is no public motivation because there is no public interest in disturbing a nature area and most Germans are not interested in another reminder of their dark past.
So it is left to the peace of its muddy grave.
You are conflating your own excitement with the reality of the situation on site. It's cool, most of us do it.
If you spend enough time in Germany (I spend about half my time here) you'd soon realise that Bomb Disposal teams here still have enough ordinance to deal with all the time that NEEDS to be dealt with because people live next to it...rather than to bother to go looking for stuff at some unpopulated, underwater site.
Every year where I stay in Hannover whole areas still have be evacuated regularly to allow Bomb Disposal teams to deal with unexploded bombs.
They don't have time to waste with stuff that may lie at the bottom of a lake.
- most probably exactly as you state, which is an eternal pitty as despite all this is a valuable piece of german history, even if dark one, heck, world's history, still far from most historical object found and hailed have blameless history....
Each of these finds are quite literally priceless. You can't put a monetary number on history.
It would be interesting to know how much water the Edersee had in 1945. In 2022 the Edersee had only one fifth of its body of water due to a serious drought.
I just read about it, the dam was blown up when they sunk the tank and the water level was 1/3 back then. Even with serious draught it`s much higer water level than back then. So theres propably 2-4m mud over it and 20m water far away from shore. So even if it`s found it will be very expensive to get it.
not to forget that over so many years it could have possible drifted even further into the lake
there is bunkers on the normandy shores that have drifted fromm all the way up the beach to the bottom of the shore@@cleanTron
@@tavish4699according to recent data the tank is actually drifting to the east as if it wants to invade Poland
It had a lot less water in 1943😂
The eder dam was blown up in 1943 and was restored soon after. So, in 1945 when the Kingtiger was sunk, the dam was not blown up.
When I was a kid, I recall my friends grandfather telling me about his time in WWII as a Mosquito mechanic. He said there was a huge crater on the runway after a German bombing raid on their airfield. They were ordered to fill in the crater with anything because the mosquitoes were coming back from a raid at any moment. The nearest thing was a brand new boxed Merlin engine, which they rolled into the hole and covered it.
He said up to the point of him being demobbed at the end of the war, the engine had never been excavated from the runway.
I wish I knew which airfield it was!
If you now that guys name there is a relatively high chance for you to find documents about it
I spent three years in a West German boarding school in the 70's. Plön, Schleswig Holstein. There was an Marineunteroffizierschule on Plönersee. (still there) Dönitz was actually there at the very end of the war. One of my teachers used to tell us stories how, as a kid British soldiers used to pay them to dive into the lake and retrieve guns, knives various war swag the Germans had thrown into the lake. Funny, hadn't thought about that in years. Here I am now older than my teacher was when he told the stories. Who knows what else might still be down there. Thanks, Mark!
My understanding is that the steel on old sunken battleships is valued because it has never been exposed to the ambient radiation in the atmosphere in a post-nuclear world. I am left to wonder if these tanks, TDs, assault guns and armored vehicles have also been protected by the various lakes, rivers, streams and bogs they've been submerged in for nearly a century.
Yes but there isn't enough usually to make recovery worth while, not when you can haul up thousands of tons with a barge and crane from a shipwreck.
The radiation now is so low that it is no longer economical to recover metal for the low background radiation
@FunkyMonk6 So you are saying you don't know what you are opining about?
We can make new low-background steel now, as nuclear tests have been banned (everywhere except North Korea, which does the smart thing and tests underground in any case) long enough for half lives to matter. Even if that weren't the case, we have the tech now to make zero-background steel, removing all radionuclides from the carbon to be used, though if we had to do that for all such steel it would be staggeringly expensive.
@slammsonite1 while the value of "low - background" metals has dropped to low value, the bulk steel and machined metals of Naval and passenger ships has a value in bulk. That is why several old shipwrecks that are also War Graves from WWII and other disasters have been disappearing in the Pacific and Indian Ocean combat areas, and commercial shipping areas (ships of especially complex metal parts, and largely Allied combat ships are most identified as now "missing, presumed lost", where once they had been found. ..).
If there is a forgotten beach in Normandy, or a lost tank in Germany. Dr. Felton will find it. No fact left behind. Ace as always ♠
my auntie husband who was a fisherman(using those large square nets) used to tell me there is a ww2 tank stuck in the mud in a riverside where he used to go fishing (Hortobágy is the name of the river, it is in a national park now), the half turret of the tank was visible around the seventies but now it is completely gone
What kind of tank was it and is it still there ?
The dam was built between 1908 and 1914, not 1941 as the video says. There is a beech tree near the dam, called the Kaiser's Beech, because the Kaiser is said to have rested here during a visit to the dam construction site in 1911.
Yeah I thought was weird that it was finished during the war
That is correct! 1914!
I once found an autographed photo of Sid Vicious in a lake. I threw it back. Another amazing story. Thank You
Hello Mr Felton, I live 80kms away from the Edersee. In the last decade there was nearly no water in the lake. As a young diver I made some dives there. 20yrs later I walked there over dry stones, showing the old village, the monastry and the cemetry to my children. A tank could be everywhere, but not in the Eder…
Sehe icch auch so. Ich wohne auch in der Nähe und habe diese Geschichte schon länger verfolgt. Auch Anwohner befragt. keiner Weiß etwas darüber oder will nichts sagen.
Its weight took it deep into the mud. You probably wouldn't see it unless the entire lake was drained and ground penetrating radar was used to locate it.
Thank you for posting so frequently, Dr. Felton.
I do hope they recover it, even though you say that is not likely at all.
I guess I just cannot imagine that they would just leave it there... even after it has already spent so much time there already.
It's not just the cost, but also the local laws.
Why? What purpose would it serve? Best left buried.
The only reason for our authorities to start making recovery plans would be a possible water poisoning from rotting ammunition.
But unless there is no acute danger, it is considered to be less harmful not to disturb rotting old iron in low oxygen enviroment, since it is fairly stable, where it rests.
Nobody will spend any money here to recover anything related to Hitler. Won't happen.
@@martincrotty211 The issue is the live munitions on board. I'm not sure of the potency of 70 yr old explosives submerged in water but there's enough on board the tank to seriously mess up someone's day. Every spring in France the frost pushes up old munitions that are still live and dangerous and have to be disposed of.
Fascinating to hear about wrecks still being recovered in this century. Thank you again.
Some minor corrections to your video. The Edertalsperre was actually build 1908 - 1914. It is located around 20 miles southwest of Kassel, where the King Tigers were almost exclusively build. If there really is a King Tiger in the Edersee it also could be one of those used to defend Kassel in March 1945.
Since the water level of the Edersee in the last summers was at an all time low it should be increasingly possible to find this tank in the next years. As always a great video!
Well, the Edersee(-Talsperre even more famous because of the Brits dambuster event) isn’t really close to Paderborn, but close to Kassel, where AFAIK German tanks have been build. JFTR
At least he didn't accuse a museum of selling an exhibit and replacing it with a fake like the original upload.
I was at the Edersee in 2017 and 2018 where there was a historical low water level (at least that was what the hotel owner said). In that year you could visit the ruins (foundations) of the sunken houses and even an fairly intact old bridge - unfortunately did not find a Tiger II
Because it sunk into the mud …
I used to build models as a kid and quite a majority were military models, especially tanks. I always thought the Germans had the best looking stuff, especially tanks. Maybe not very reliable in real life but I always thought their tanks were the coolest looking of all. I went last year to a military museum near where I live which had a number of tanks from WW2 and above. They actually had a fully restored Panzer V Panther tank on display. First time I'd ever been next to a real WW2 German tank. Really overwhelming and blew me away how big those things really were.
If you ever get a chance go to the bovington tank museum in Dorset England. It’s top notch and has an unrivalled collection which includes the only working tiger 1 in the world.
nice you get to see the big tanks the bigest i have seen is only a l3/33
Imagine someone just found a tiger tank, that would be insane.
That German guy who stored a nearly pristine Panzer V Panther in his basement was one of the highlights these past few years. xD
@@darkawakening01how
They would have to recover it discretely, as the government will steal it and provide no compensation.
@@goldenfiberwheat238If it's the same one I'm thinking of, it was a perfectly functional tank. Not demilled or anything. He used to drive it around the small town he lived it once in a great while
@@cody-2536 howd he fit it in his basement
Fifteen years ago I was working in Hungary. I met an old man who was a boy during the war. He remembered the Germans retreating through his village on Lake Balaton. He saw two light weight tanks driven into the lake so they would not fall into the hands of the advancing Red Army. He thought that they they were still in the lake.
Go for it!
"Light weight tanks" maybe he meant half-tracks 🤔!?
They are probably still there.
@@aaroncourchene4384 could be, you have to remember he was than a boy and recalling an event 50+ years prior. "Tank" could have been any tracked vehicle. The point is he had lived in that area all his life and thought they were still there under the water.
@@davidh6300 I have not been back since but from what he said fifteen years ago they were still there. He lived there all his life and would have known if they had been salvaged.
I don't know if Mark is aware but there is a youtuber named Historiou that has been plagiarizing his videos and getting sponsorships and patreon donations off Mark's stolen work and several other history youtubers. Please vote this up so Mark has a better chance of seeing this comment everyone .
The 3 Big Cats - Tiger, Konigstiger, and Panther - are beautiful and awesome monsters, a pleasure to behold and worth a visit to the museums that have them on display.
Almost 2 milli there sir. Happy for you and you deserved it before now.
I like how the commanders majestically stood in the hatch.
Until snipers got them
You had to stand up to get a good view of the conditions on the battlefield.
Max Wunshe.
Suicidal.
Late lake recuvery: in the 90th (when I was a Child) a friend found an old Mouser 98k. In a tiny lake in the center of our village. His farther restored it to working order.
This still amaises me.
Never mind the Lady of the Lake I'll take the King Tiger of the Lake.
If a panzer actually fell off a barge in the Seine, then it's obviously STILL THERE. The current sure as hell didn't push it downriver!
It must be at a considerable depth given that no boats have run into it. It would be very interesting to see how much damage the water had done over the decades.
If it sank into the mud like the t-34 it may very well be preserved!
Operation Chastise Edertalsee dambuster, thats why
If it's buried deep enough in the mud it might still be in pretty good condition. There have been lots of finds of all kinds or normally fairly perishable items that were remarkably preserved because they found buried deep in mud which kept oxygen out, which is a key to preserving things over time.
To close to shore / river bank - why its not a problem to navigation + sank in mud
I live very close to the Edersee and I’m there pretty much weekly, even driving boats there. Very interesting to hear that there seems to be such a tank still around without ever finding it. During the summer, the Edersee is usually very empty and you can even walk through the old towns, at least the rest of it.
But consider natural dying organs in the mass itself for now 40 years, in a lake it creates still earth/mud and simple sonar cant pick that up.
I'm a geophysicist. An object as large and dense as a Tiger should be readily detectable with a magnetometer towed behind a boat.
Damn, no wonder fritz was seen asking everyone where was his panzer
Daar Marc,
The Edersee (-Dam) was constructed between 1908 and 1914, instead of 1941. I visited it many times, and know a bit about its history.
The “dambuster raid” also included this Dam in 1943. ..
After very hot summers, lets say sept./okt. You still can see the remainders of An old village, cemitary, church and bridge. The waterlevel can fall as much as 15-25 meters. The banks are rather steep , for me it is highly unlikely for a massieve tank te be scutteled there. I come to this area for some 45 years and never heard the locals mentioning this lost Tiger story.
Best regards from the Netherlands.
Reminds me of the quest to located the 1850s steam locomotive "Rhein" which fell into the river she was named after on delivery and has railway enthusiasts searching for it for the last few years, but that is complicated by the river having changed course several times since 1852. Last time they dug they found nothing. Though Edersee is a reservoir (it was in fact one of the targets of the Dambuster raid) it might pop up if the lake is extremely empty
Send in the Dambusters to drain it!!
Yes, but like steam loc Rhein, it is may covered with mud and for the steam loc Rhein, some experts believe, it dissolved in rust, nothing to be left. The Rhine river changes its glow, but not in the last 200 years. The problem is, the exact location of the accident had been forgotten.
si tu retrouves mon ""vélo"" fais moi signe !!!!!!
The recovery of these vehicles sounds like a plot for reality TV show very similar to The Curse of Oak Island. Without a shadow of a doubt I would definitely be watching every episode if this ever became a TV series.
Cool idea, nobody thought of this before, I am sure.
Just might turn into a red herring not unlike the Oak Island fantasy.
The story of Oak island fascinated me years before the TV show came out. I can't watch the show anymore cuz they've found basically nothing and the series has gone on too long; feels like they're just milking it now.
Since this seems to be an re-upload i will correct the same mistake again ^^: The Edersee Dam was build in 1914, not 1941 ;)
I usually don't watch mark felton productions but when I do , it's a program such as this .
Very interesting piece. Thank you Dr. Felton. Looking forward to part 3 of your newest series coming up. So many mysteries surrounding that saga!
It's amazing how well preserved those tanks found from lakes and rivers actually are. Even the rubber tires seem to be in superb condition.
Yes ,when a vehicle is submerged in mud they are protected.
The museum at Fort Knox has two French WWI tanks. They were found in a junkyard in Afghanistan. Both were in pieces but a couple of US Army personnel recognized the parts as tank parts. None of the locals had any idea how the two tanks ended up there. They were restored and now are an exhibit at the Fort Knox museum.
Thats funny
ils les ont copiées et fait des ""Bradley !!!!
If true! Put this Tiger tank in a war museum for the purpose of keeping the memory alive.
You would think getting a potential large bomb like a tank loaded with aging and unstable ammunition out of a conservation area would be more of a priority.
ITs been fine for 80+ years now. The propellant and shells are almost surely degraded to inert and being at the bottom of a muddy lake is about the safest place it could be.
If you watch the video, go to 5:30 and it is explained
Best to leave it ly
these explosives are no danger to nature anymore
if it were phosphore it would be a different dtory
I wouldn't think that because it's not a large bomb, just a steel can quite capable of dampening any internal detonation of its remaining munitions if any. The world doesn't revolve around diverting real money and real people to retrieve every artifact to entertain plebs.
Some minor correction:
1.) The Edersee, where I spent my holidays more often than once in my childhood ist not "close" to Paderborn.
Actually the distance is around 100 km.
The Edersee is way closer to Kassel - Paderborn is not even in the same state (Paderborn = NRW, Kassel = Hessen).
Kassel is also the larger City and therefore your statement is wrong, maybe because you wanted to get an easier link to your Paderborn King Tiger Ambush video? ;-)
I'd love to find a relic like that in my local lake. Sadly the most impressive thing I ever found was a shopping trolley.
In a few hundred years time, that will be looked upon with incredulity!
@@alanhaynes418In that case I better go back for it! I'll fetch the traffic cone too haha
Ah, but was it a WW2 shopping trolley?
A shopping trolley from the war? What a find!
That's Hitler shopping trolley..keep it
In the 1970s (Rotorua, New Zealand) there was an Avenger torpedo bomber and a Valentine tank in a children's play area in a CBD public park. The Avenger went to MOTAT in Auckland around 1980. The Valentine was sold in the mid-1990s and has been fully restored and lives in Luxembourg!
In the US I’ve went to see the USS Cairo a Union gunboat sunk in the Yazoo river in Mississippi it was raised and is now on display. I’d love to see those raised tanks in Europe👍
Thank you, Mark. Your continuous combing for great stories is excellent!
Keep 'em coming. Love you videos, man!
I have one for you sir, speaking of German tanks in large bodies of water. I have heard that the WWI German tank the AV7, 1 is of course in Australia, but a second one was found upside down in a river in Poland. I was wondering if you could do a video on that and verify its there and any word on recover?
I'd love to see a special on the person responsible for not tying the Tiger 1 to the train from the earlier post! Fascinating as always.
I really hope ot is located and recovered. Its an incredible piece of history.
No leave it alone
Why leave it alone?
its a bloody wildlife reserve didnt you listen ???
@@aka99
The way the climate's been afffecting German water courses ....... just be patient
Meh. By the time it emerges folk'll be worrying about other things - Like 'We haven't any water'
[Just no pleasing some people I suppose 🙄 ]
Lots of stuff from ww2 has been found and will be found. From destroyed guns to well preserved machine guns. In a nearby village, there is a small chapel outside the town. In the 1970s they had to tear down the chapel and rebuild it some meters away. When they teared up the chapel, they found 2 K98k in best condition. They made it a present to the local gunclub of the town. It was well hidden placed in the chapel. In 1944 one b17 crashed on the tennisfield of a nearby town. In 2017 when they had to do underground manage things, they found an engine of the crashed b17.
This reminds me of the FW-190 that was found in the forest in Russia.
...or the Type 9 U-Boot that was discovered last year off the southern coast of Argentina !
Absolutely awesome, thank you sir. This channel is absolutely amazing. Thank you Dr. Felton.
a bit click-baity,.. have they not checked out the big sonar lump yet?
@@hgm8337 What lump? I am new here.
Speaking of stuff under the water, mark, you should do a video about all the sea mines that broke loose from their moorings and being hame a hazard the shipping lanes in the sixties
Actually the Tiger II should be fairly easy to find using sonar that can penetrate mud. Getting it out would be where almost all of the cost would be.
Another fascinating page of history by yourself... thanks Mark! I would recommend to all a place you mentioned; TheAuto und Tecknic museum in Sinsheim, Germany. For anyone with an interest on military vehicles, whether land or air, it is certainly worth a visit. Thanks again
Another awesome n least known info. Those archival films n still pics are most effective in ur presentation. Sadly this particular King Tiger wont be excavated n placed on display. Kudos for story. Anticipating ur next story. Peace
I got really excited when I saw this notification. I thought it was Episode 3 of Finding the Führer. At least there's still some Mark Felton content! ❤
massive respect for actually pronouncing german names properly. so many history channels dont
Thank You for the wonderful work you do..
Excellent video
Recover these, they are valuable.
Thanks Mark! Just made my hot humid Monday at work much cooler!
I’ll put my money on it existing and waiting to be discovered!
Always enjoy your videos sir.
Also there are supposed to be several Jagdpanzers in some swamp in north Germany but forgot where. It was on a german language (serious) wehrmacht forum a few years back and opinions were divided on them being still there. The story was similar. Last days of the war their unit ditched them there and went home
Even Hidden Historic gems can't hide from you Mark, another great video thanks for posting.
These King Tigers and Panthers are remarkably made🏆
The King Tiger is found and refurbished. At the press conference, the sixth reporter to ask a question is clearly Labrov with a fake mustache and glasses saying "can I borrow it?"
When I was on a work placement in Finnish Lapland one of the National Park workers found a vermacht helmet leaning against a tree.
I know from personal experience how easy it is in a trackless pine forest to walk 100 feet and then have absolutely very little idea where you started from .
It would be very easy to lose a helmet - maybe not a tank - out there. It still had fragments of leather strapping on it .
There some mistakes in this video.
1. The Edersee was built 1908 - 1914 and not in 1941.
2. It is not near Paderborn, but near Kassel.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edersee
When you see the amounts of weapons, kit and explosives pulled from lakes and rivers by various youtubers its pretty certain that someone is going to find and hopefully recover a big tank before long.
Yeah, but I am not happy about that digging at all.
If a King Tiger had been rolled into a river or lake, it would be very close to the shore, and it would be easy to make a cofferdam and retrieve it. Wouldn't take $250,000... that's ludicrous.
There was a legend when in I was stationed in munsterlager (huge German garrison/ training area going back to before WW1) that a panther was in the fluggenhofsee after having had issues at the next door rail flats that we ourselves used to embark tanks for the gulf war... apparently it was blocking the tracks, they shifted it out the way and it ended up in the lake...
Its hard enough to get the mud to let loose of a stolen boot, cant imagine how much trouble a submerged king tiger would be. If they are able to, i hope somebody videos it.
I think you had a video on a WW2 german veteran that had a Tiger in his basement.
That was dmn good shocker, because they've discovered it a lot later 😂
It wasn't a veteran and it wasn't a Tiger, it was a Panther in the garage of a rich man (who iirc was too young to have served during the war)
@dd-gl2qf And the damn government stole it and much of his other property😠
@@dd-gl2qf : I believe the German Government confiscated it from him. Which probably deters investors finding and reclaiming these old tanks and equipment.
I would love to see this tank in the Bovington Tank Museum.
Seeing a king tiger in person, the sheer size of it was amazing, that technique and Auto museum is a must visit too ! The mercedes Unimog museum is not far away either
I found a tire once when fishing....but I would have rather found a King Tiger.
I once caught a fishing rod and reel while I was fishing. It was still usable.
You've done it again, Felton!
There are four tanks I know of in the New Forest, UK two Churchill tanks one Sherman and one other unknown tank
Some years ago me and my friends found some WW2 weapons and ammo in our Town River in Austria.
Always love watching a video of yours, Dr. Mark!
If weapons are abroad perhaps safety concerns could raised the funds required to cover the cost, the tanks location if nothing else..
A tiger would create a huge signal to a magnetometer if they swept the lake. Obviously it must be close to the shoreline, so that narrows the sweeping area considerably. The real problem is German lack of enthusiasm to actively seek out WWII relics.
Just look for a shelving beach/entrance to the water on that lake. They wouldn't drop it off a cliff, the Tiger needs to enter the water at less than 40 degrees, so just concentrate the shoreline search at those locations. I think they could find it within hours, but the Germans don't want to.
It's actually German intransigence at work here and elsewhere. The "local" government has all sorts of ploys (environmental, community noise/disrution, you name it) to stop this kind of thing. The big message is: WWII is over and we don't want anything at all coming out from that period. Japan is exactly the same, but they didn't have any interesting/impressive weapons. @@idanceforpennies281
I love your content and can't stop watching them. is there a way for you to improve the voice recording? at the beginning of each segment your first word is never heard. somehow the recording picks it up with a minor delay.
I love it when museums leave historical artifacts unrestored. 1:20
There's an air museum in California that "restored" an airplane that was under water for 70 years. Looked worse than that tank. Today the plane looks new. It's a new plane!
It's like restoring Lizzy Borden's axe, new head and handle, restored! 😂
Trigger's broom.
Always hate it when restorers overpaint original surviving camouflage. In some cases the corrosion is so bad they can’t do much else but in so many cases rather than restore the tank in its last known state they paint it in the latest fashionable camo scheme, which after five years turns out to be wrong!
Not all restored aircraft are in flying condition. Many are too frail and restored to static display for museums. I agree with you when they are left in their as-found condition. That's a real deal compared to aircraft with more than half of their skin being replaced.
What a B.S. The Edersee was almost totally without water several years ago. There is no Tiger 2 tank anywhere.
very close to herlisheim a small village in the elsass region of which you have also made a video talking about 2 panther tanks i have found increible amounts of amunition in one of the most used lakes to take a bath in during the summer time.
no 15 meters from the shore a simple magnet on a rope has made us unearth anything from 8mm mauser rounds to steel helmets and incredibly enough multible nearly prestine leather harnesses and mp40 magazine pouches
during the retreat into the core german teritory over the rhine our soldiers msut have throughn all heavy things away and disposed of it in lakes and on the side of rodes
Yepp, throwing ammo and guns, handgrenades was common.
Tanks for the memories!
Love the details
Appreciate the video Dr Felton
there are lots of wreck German tanks all over western and eastern Europe lakes and rivers but hopeful they will be recovered and do restoration to put like display in a museum or restored to working order like Tiger 131. great story Dr felton.
Thank you for the update!!!
I love these stories! Thank you so much Dr. Felton. 👍
To be a part of such an operation I'd work for free. A King Tiger has much more bragging rights than any sports car.
The Werewolves cunningly anticipated how to hide their armour from satellite reconnaissance.
Lol but I doubt it's that deep
The footage @ 2:48 of the baby faced veteran giving the older guy either instructions or advice is fascinating
Or answering a question, or talking about the weather, or telling a joke, etc... you really read a lot into a few seconds of two people talking.
I’m considering this video an intermission for the one about the 2nd burnt corpse found outside the fuhrer bunker
If that is a protected conservation area I wonder if they could somehow get public funds to get the rusting steel, oil, and possibly explosives that is that King Tiger out of the lake. Seems like a win win for everyone involved
Dear Mr. Felton: at 2:20 you said, the Eder-Damm was constructed in 1941. But i am pretty sure that it was finished in 1914.
EDIT: And a big thank you for that really interessting video!
I live near there and I never heard of that, very interesting