Ford had two billion dollars in warranty paid out over GM.. that was in the news last week. I know more people that own Chevy trucks including myself.. the few f1whimpy owners I know have more issues with their Ford's...
THIS IS EXACTLLY WHY I PUT 500 BUCKS INTO MY 96 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 4X4 5.2LITER ENGINE WITH THE A500 TRANS WITH THE 249J TRANSFER CASE. I FIXED ALL THE POTENTAL ENGINE LEAKS BY REMOVING ALL THE OLD GASKETS AND TIMING CHAIN AND GASKETS OIL PAN GASKET TOO. BOTH MAIN SEALS AT SAME TIME IN THE CRANK BEARINGS. NOW THE ONLY THING COULD HAPPEN IS A THROWN ROD. I REBUILT MY TRANSMISSION 10K MILES AGO. IT USES ABOUT HALF A QUART OF OIL PER 4000 MILE OIL CHANGE SO ITS PREETY GOOD INTERNALLY. JUST A TINY BIT OF RING OR CYLINDER WEAR BUT WHO CARES. MY POINT IS ITS WORTH FIXING THE OLDER MODEL JEEPS BUT NOT NEWER SHITY ONES OR ANYTHING NEW TODAY THEY ALL SUCK AND MOSTLY PLASTIC PIPING. AND MUCH MORE LIKE INTAKES U NAME IT MAN.
@@cliffcorbitt9494 my buddy does the same thing!! He buy's OLDER GM's for 600 to 1000 dollars, goes through them and drives them for 6 to 10 years with no major issues..
@@williamlincoln7695 some yes. I have a 2014 silverado with 118,000 trouble free miles! Not one problem! I off road often, and sometimes drive it hard! It's been slightly air born off roading and the original tires lasted 86,000 miles..
I am a tech (heavy line)for a local Chevy dealer, and the new style engine is completely different, the older 5.3, 6.0, trucks with cylinder deactivation, where only 4 cylinder cut off. Now the new trucks have all cylinder deactivation, which the top of the block is machined different for this, I find it odd how lifter failure has not been listed in any video I’ve seen, and it’s a real and huge problem. I would not recommend the new style Chevy/gmc full size with a 5.3 (L84) at all. I’ve worked for Chevy for a long time and have always been a fan, but the new engine is very disappointing. I’m not trolling, just giving my input from where I see the truck
I ordered a 2023 1500 custom trailboss with the diesel this week and the dealership called me back and told me that they couldn’t do it right now bc gm kicked the order back for the diesel. Any particular reason why?
We bought a 2016 gmc Denali. For the wife. It looked great and she liked the ride. We had the 6.2 motor. Paid a bit but was very impressed with it initially. Truck was used for running kids around for hockey and such. Very easy life lol. It all started at around 25000 Kim’s. we hit the remote start and the seat caught on fire. The warmer would not shut off burnt seat gave a great smell to the truck. Around this time we noticed a lot of paint chips. Stopped into dealer. It’s the dirt roads they said hmmmm truck has never been on a dirt road. Oh they said and suggested a $1000 dollar 3m coating. Did we not just pay $70000. At this point the 8 speed transmission had been put in learner mode 3 times. Because it never shifted right. And it never would. There were more recalls than I can remember this morning. Power steering. Brakes. They took out the slider rear window because it was a fire hazard lol. The motor developed a load tick. It was a bent valve road. $5500 repair. About this time all 4 electromagnetic shocks went. They are $3500 here in the frozen north. There was so much I can’t remember. My wife bought a new Honda CRV and loves it. I cannot tell you how financial stress and family stress this truck caused. That was our first GMC. The dealer and GM were like snake oil salesman saying anything and screw you. I have owned a lot of vehicles and this was the worst. If you cannot build and sell $70000 dollar truck and look after your clients you will be bankrupt AGAIN. I know of a lot of people who have had the same experience. The worst quality I have ever seen. Run away. Gm deserves to perish it’s an old tired dinosaur that needs to go.
Yeah I hear you, I worked as a tech at a GM dealer from 2014- 2018 and the gas trucks had nothing but issues. In cold climates like we have in Canada the direct injected V8’s actually overfuel so bad on cold starts that the engine oil gets badly diluted with gas... bad enough that it causes loss of oil pressure quite often.
I know several people with GMC Denalis and have never had one problem. A friend of mine has owned four of them in a row. No problems. Maybe they run better in Texas. lol
@@kingnonsense Yes. All trucks past 2014 have too much tech. Your best bet by far is a used lo mile Tundra V8 equipped like you want. You can thank me later.
@@kingnonsense Man I hafta tell ya I'm not high on the new ones. A turbo V6, NO trans cooler ,and an ugly nose. Some rumor about a subscription service on electronics ? Ima stick with a proven V8. Good Luck.
The problem with all of them, whether it's GM, Ford, Toyota, etc., is that really none of them are "work" trucks and you have waaaaaaay too much electronics and what they really want is to make everyone go to a dealership for repair. The problem with that is, is they can't fix them either!!!
Unfortunately i believe youre correct. I say unfortunately because i dont see it ending. The only time electronics made a vehicle more reliable is when they got rid of mechanical points. Outside of that, I really don't see electronics improving the reliability at all. There's way too many sensors and way too many actuators controlling simple functions that should be done by mechanical levers. I wish you can go back in time when we had cars like the old Toyotas with the 20R and the five speed. Or a small block 350 made it to a 700R4. We should have stopped at basic throttle body EFI. And then jumped to electric vehicles. The other crap we're just Band-Aids that are always falling off.
@@270eman toyota has been superior ever since I can remember. I think at least since they were imported into the United States. My dream car "if i could afford it" would include a toyota 20r engine as part of the powertrain, Because they are bulletproof if you do basic maintenance.
2014 LTZ Z71 Silverado owner with 82,000 miles. Still original brakes on it and only thing replaced so far was the battery, engine and cabin air filters, headlamps and turn signal lamps.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that there is an inverse relationship between the greed of the board members at GM and the reliability of the truck they produce.
Yes, the white collars do not care about the vehicle quality., It about how many vehicles the can sell to fill their pockets. Did you guy's know Toyota's CEO is capped at 500,000 a year?? No Chrysler Ford and GM! Their CEOs have no cap .. Another group of business criminals....
Consumer reports have been bashing Chevy trucks for 40 years. I've had 12 trucks over those years,all chevy. No problems. All over 150000 when I traded them in. Not all will be perfect. Thanks to social networking the bad always gets reported not so much the good. Take care of your truck no matter what make and you should have limited problems. As always, just my opinion.
@@drh3b I agree and buy warranty to cover your usage and ownership duration. People will spring an extra 4k on big wheels but wont buy an extra 60k miles of warranty for half that.
Yes , I had a few gm trucks with just a little be low average problems then I got a 2017 gmc sierra after 5000 miles it just started falling apart, I don't see me buying anymore gm junk, to much other decent trucks to pick from out there
I bought new Chevy trucks in 2002, 2006, 2015, and 2021. All with the 5.3. The only problem I had was the 6 speed tranny in the 2006 went out at 90k miles, cost me $1400. I really liked all four trucks outside of that one repair. During that time I have seen new Ford trucks with serious engine problems, two different friends blew up two different fords going home from the same fishing trip. I am not picking on Ford, but it happens across all lines.
Don't read too much into that. Some friction parts, planetary gearsets, and sprags can be identical but the case, valve body, and torque converters would likely be from each company's in house or usual supplies. There is huge savings by development of those first pieces mentioned and by larger scale components purchase.
The surveys do a poor job of details. The questions and the customer knowledge can treat a slow gear engagement first time in the morning as the same as quit pulling and wouldn't move 200 miles from the house. Problems with touchscreens and pairing cellphones are far far larger problems than real issues with drivetrain in vehicles in the last 10 years.
A buddy of mine bought a new Chevy Silverado 4X4 in 2020. The only issue I know about is he does not like the transmission shifting. So far as I know of there were no other issues.
2017 silverado wt with 5.3/6peed. Over 100k on it now and zero issues. Lifted 8" on 35" mud tires. I tow a 18ft boat and beat it up in the mud and cant seem to break it...yet
The last 5 pickups I've owned have been gm products and have traded before running into the problem of faulty lifters. With the new ones it's not just faulty lifters but also many different electronic failures as well. So I swapped brands. Ram out of the question and so was this 1st gen twin turbo v6 that is in the tundra. So it was between the f150 and titan. I got a lot more for my dollar with the titan and best warranty in class. Very nice, reliable v8 with no cylinder deactivation.
Got both 2019 GMC Denali 6.2 with 55k miles and a 2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi with 90k miles...love them both got a bit more mileage on the RAM but since I have the Denali I tow my 5500lbs boat more often than I do with the RAM...I can't complain about either truck..I've had to change the battery in the RAM other than that both works great very reliable...I think the key to any vehicle is regular oil changes I never leave mine go to it's change limit I almost cut that in half and change my oil very often and I've had GM and Dodge trucks since the late 80's...Ford I can't sat I never had one but I sure have friends that had issues with the 3.5 ecoboost....when those guys traded they got the 5.0 and that engine seems fine...I don't go by any consumer guides never have I truly believe they have a bias one way or another.
I finally lost all faith in GM when their lawyers concocted the defense of “design” vs “manufacturing” defects when defending the 8-speed issues. Basically they’re saying that because the 8-speed problems stem from a design issue and the warranty states that it covers manufacturing defects, they aren’t really responsible for fixing the problem for free. They knew they were a problem and still installed them in their trucks. They knew they had lifter issues but they never seemed to be interested in (or failed miserably at) making improvements. The prices keep going up, though. No thanks.
There are several trucks from ALL of the manufacturer's that prove to be very reliable and durable. Still........there are weak parts, systems, etc. in ALL of these trucks. The trick is to identify the weak parts and systems and see if the aftermarket has provided solutions in higher quality parts.
3 years ago my uncle bought a brand new GMC Sierra. 6 months later, his transmission starts slipping so he brings it into the dealer and they “fix” it. He gets the truck back and it runs fine for a day and it’s back to slipping. Brings it back and the SAME thing happens again, only this time he accelerates to get highway speed and we hear a clunk* and the transmission is leaking down the highway. Brings it in, and they say he need a new transmission and HE needs to pay for it. This is after he paid for the 2 previous “fixes” He traded for a Ford F-150 and has been happy since.
2017 GMC Canyon with 112k miles, 2.8 Duramax. Bullet proof. Heading from FL to NY state (1300 miles) with my Suncoast 230 boat in tow for the third year. No problem. Eats the miles up and flows with traffic on I95. Can't wait for 2022 Canyon Duramax. I will have it!!!
I had the 2019 trail Boss 5.3 6 speed active fuel management and had major transmission problems and dealer put in a new torque converter which did not fix and got tired of the issue and traded it in on a tundra and no more issues
Maybe if you get the GM I6 diesel and have transmission problems it will actually give a person a legitimate reason to drop the tranny and check their stupid oil pump belt.
@@09roadraider40 my next truck will be a Tundra. I like companies that focus on quality and consumer satisfaction. We have a Sienna with >200,000 trouble free miles. Still runs like new. GM could only wish they can produce like that
Just traded in 2021 Silverado for a 2019 tundra. The lifters went bad on the Silverado. Chevy fixed it but I lost confidence in this truck. The truck had only 20,000 miles on it when the lifters went bad. Bye bye Chevy. Just saw the new 2024 all electric Silverado nice looking truck but no thank you
I am a Master Technician with 40 years experience, I drive Toyotas right now. GM’s need things like switches and blower resistors, Fords need coils, PCM’s, Cam Phasers....I’ve done several water pumps on 3.5 Ford engines, timing chain driven. Thousands of dollars each. Ford 8 and 10 speed transmissions are on back order for so many early failures, my boss owns one and is worried about it. Might not be in reports, but it’s in our shop. All master mechanics and the managers in our shop drive Toyota or GM vehicles. Maybe other shops are having different experiences?
The problem with consumer reports is the same problem you have when you’re eating in a restaurant. The people who had a good experience generally don’t talk about it; but the people who didn’t tell EVERYBODY. The amount of noise is not proportional to the actual number.
Being a fleet manager for a multi billion dollar oil company, I can prove that GM trucks are far and away our most reliable trucks, half tons to 3500s. Also, GMs service after the sale is second to none. Stay away from anything Ram, unless 3500. Also, run away from away from any Ford EcoBoost or Powerstroke.....trust me and thank me later.
With 40 years of experience under my belt, looking at fleet maintenance numbers from various trucks and cars, and picking brains of scores of mechanic shop owners and looking at their real world numbers leads me to agree with the reports on Chevrolet, their reliability has been a problem for many years. Ford has seriously upped their game but, if anything, Chevy has gone the other direction.
I’m reading all the comments and it looks to me like all three manufacturers GM, Ford or Dodge have had issues with their pick up trucks. Hit and miss reliability in all of them
I had a landscape company and used all Chevy 2500's with the 6.2 v8 they were basic work trucks and they held up very very well no transmission failures and we plowed snow with those trucks which can be hard on any truck no matter the brand. Towed 4500 lbs a day with them full of mowing or landscape equipment. Talking to other competiors, the best story was one where they bought two Ram trucks both blew transmissions at 40K miles, still under warranty, and Ram said no free repair once they saw the plow frames on the truck.
Regular maintenance, remember- it’s not a Race car and enjoy. Buy what you like and take care of it. Lots of tremendous options/choice for buyers to meet most needs and wants.
Exactly. Sadly most people do not know how to drive. How many people race up to a red light? Or take off fast when it turns green??? Or turn corners extremely fast? All these actions put more stress on so many systems of the vehicle.
@@mikefoehr235 fair point but on that note, no matter the manufacturer, no trucks are perfect. I’ve owned Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra,F150 and Ram over the last 16 years and all have their pros and cons. When serviced and cared for, all these trucks performed good.
@@Miiike604 some brands just need way less care. Toyota comes to mind. My 13 Tacoma had two repairs...bearing and rear springs. Cannot say that about FORD/GM
I have a 2019 Trail Boss with 41,000 miles and zero issues. I’ve actually just leveled it and put 34’s on it and ordered a custom leather interior and in my mind it’s the perfect truck for what I want and need. Now that I’ve said that I’m gonna have a major break down I know it…😂😂🤷🏻♂️
My parents 2020 gmc truck after only 1 year of ownership the head unit is already failing, can’t wait to see what other fun electronic promblems it will develop
Although I seem to remember so many people using CR as the reason to buy/ not to buy certain vehicles, CR continues to have bias in their reporting. For instance, over the years, Honda has had several rounds of transmission failures(even the current ZF 9spd), yet they rate them as high on reliability. Toyota literally had rusting frames on trucks and oil sludge concerns with their V6s, and they too remain solidly highly recommended. To your point on the Chevy, it is widely known that the 8spd is the trans to largely avoid, not due to failure but mostly odd shift feel and quality. But the HDs?? Up until very recently, they used Allison-made(not branded/licensed) which were virtually bulletproof, so their reporting remains very mixed on how they reach their results.
While Honda overall is higher than most in average reliability, they haven't been Toyota reliable for years. If you actually read their ratings, you'll see that some Hondas are only average reliability. Honda Accord goes from average to above average depending on the year as they find and fix problems. The transmission problems did lower their reliability ratings back over a decade ago. Suburu has also gone down. While also still more reliable than average, they are way behind Toyota. Also, remember, their is a difference between their rating of the car as it functions, and it's reliability rating. There are some cars they really like, but don't recommend because of the reliability rating, and ones they find mediocre(but not bad) that they recommend because of it's reliability. And, of course, Toyotas aren't perfect. They are just better than everyone else, on average, year after year. Nothing is guaranteed, they are merely predicting based on statistics. Even Toyota throws out the occasional lemon.
The oil sludge only affected the 1MZ-FE and 3MZ-FE engines but it’s easily remedied by using full synthetic motor oil. The 2GR-FE is a bulletproof engine that is first introduced in the 2005 Toyota Avalon.
I recently got. 2021 chevy Silverado rst w/6.2L and 10speed. I have had no issues with it, then again I’m not rough on my vehicles. I had an 08 Colorado with the I-5, 113K miles no issues. Needed the change in trucks. Take care of them and they can last a long time.
I would be laughing if a “2021” 60-70k truck break down within a few weeks. I had 800k miles on my 03 f150. Now I have a 2021 with no issues and ride smooth.
Tim, I would like to see reliability based on an annual survey and have that annual rating posted side by side with a 10 year average ranking. One year ratings are a snapshot, I want the history as well.
its not even one year, teh 21's are barely out yet, maybe its more like 2-3 months. obviously gm didnt pay the mafia their fee for the 21's so they are getting burned, lol.
It's a snapshot because manufacturers come out with new features and modules every year, plus recalls, plus "service improvements" (free fix when you make your next appointment), etc.
@@sonsofliberty3081 the ram will never be the most reliable truck.Dodge products always drive and run great for 1-2 years and then All hell breaks loose and you realize the bad buy you made
I dunno, I have a 2017 High Country 6.2L/ 8 speed and had no issues. If I remember correctly they had the same score back 5 years ago. Matience is the key and I can't stress this enough and I follow it to a T and over 100,000kms
Guess they built them better in 99. My Sierra is still going strong. My uncle bought a Dodge Ram same year and lasted 6 years. Sad quality dropping while prices keep rising.
Sure. Not denying the Tundra is a great truck (I personally had a first gen and loved it) but when you sell the same truck year after year they tend to have all the bugs worked out. I bought my wife a new Venza way back when they were new (first year model) and we had nothing but issues with it. It went so far as leaving us stranded on the side of the road in Arizona with a failed water pump at 51,000 miles. We traded for a 4Runner and were happy with that until it was traded last year with close to 150,000 trouble free miles.
idk about the 10 speed because i haven't had it yet. I hear all over the place that the 8 speed is really bad. But i have had two 6 speed trucks and im about to order a third. The 6 speeds are incredible transmissions. I overloaded my two past half ton 5.3 trucks with 6 speeds on multiple occasions. overheated the trans in one while over loaded twice and still had zero issues. and that was at 160k miles. i'm finally ordering a 3/4 ton which should be better for what i do and im happily getting the 6.6 gasser with the 6 speed. i'm partially glad GM didn't go to the 10 speed in the gasser 6.6 because i know that 6 speed is absolutely bullet proof. Also i never have had any issues with DFM or DOD in my 2 2014 and newer GM trucks. But i change my own oil regularly and use high end products.
I’m a mechanic at a Toyota dealer BUT two good friends own independent shops. Here’s the problem with Consumer Reports, they don’t do specific trim levels and power trains, they just group them all together. GM truck trans issue is the 6 speed, it’s freakin awful but the 8 speed is bulletproof. The GM/Ford codeveloped 10 speed is also bulletproof except in the Fords where they have a software issue. Most of the the 6&8 speed complaints are shifts hard which is actually a good thing, that’s what you want and especially in a truck but people want there trucks to be 4dr sedans now because that’s it’s only use for them so they want the Lexus shift which will cause premature converter and clutch pack failures. The pickup is the new sedan lol. Ram lol I’ve owned 2 1. 3500 Cummins which mechanically was awesome but it suffered from wind noise, water leaks, electrical issues, interior just fell apart. 2. 1500 5.7 same exact issues as the other but adding a blown head gasket on the left cylinder bank. And I’m not alone with these issues with Ram. They’re good looking trucks in and out but what a pos. For CR to say it rates right up there with a Toyota is why I never listen to anything they say…. EVER! CR is full of shite!
I absolutely love my 2021 Silverado 1500 LTE and 6.2 engine. Not one issue. 18k miles and tows extremely. Smooth, rugged, powerful. I’ll ignore the trash talk.
Must be nice. Mine just had a lifter fail at 2400km. Absolutely no excuse for this to happen on a brand new truck. This is a complete joke and I've never been so disappointed in my life.
Consumer reports has been shitting on GM forever. I always found it interesting that JD Power marks them better than most in comparison. JD Power "only" gets their info from owners. Sometimes owners of three years. Consumer Reports has a reputation of being useless to anyone who does actual research. My mother in law bought a washer based on CR some years ago. It literally broke so often she couldn't give it away, yet CR praised it. They are a garbage institution that bends at the knee for whoever writes the largest check. I wouldn't use them to help pick a paper clip.
My 2019 ltz had a recall on the brakes…..never had a problem until I let my battery die…it locked up my parking brake and it wouldn’t release when I put new battery in it. It was crazy. They repaired it and no problems at all.
My 2017 Colorado was awful. On top of the very common transmission issues, I had trouble with the heater, radio and backup camera...all before 20k miles. After about a dozen trips to the dealer, and still no resolution for the transmission problems, I got rid of it last summer just north of 40k miles. That was the 7th, and last, GM I've owned.
Sorry for those who saw the video last night with some flickering. Turns out it was an outdated graphics driver. First time I've encountered this issue.
@@andybub45 Maybe.....time will tell. Sure is a plethora of GM trucks with the 8 speed transmissions that were destroyed prior to the engineers resolving the problem with heavier weight ATF. I certainly would not want a GM truck with the 8 speed transmission.
Stay away from gm, had all kinds of problems with 2017 GMC sierra, don't have time to lest all the problems, got rid of that POS thru lemon settle meant , went with ford an will never go back to GM
Just finished doing a DOD swap on a 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 with the 5.3. Truck had 53,000 miles on it and the camshaft lost 2 lobes. Had frequent oil changes by GM dealer. Useless! GM voided the warranty because the customer had changed the spark plug wires and spark plugs trying to solve the miss.
I agree, they are putting car transmissions in trucks, GM went through all that trouble to design 3 wonderful truck engines and are ruining it with terrible transmissions and idiotic cylinder deactivation schemes.
My 2020 silverado 1500 rst with just a little over 2000 miles transmission went on the first time towing my boat which weighs about 1800 pounds , transmission fluid all over the ground .
@@davidstephens7273 that's a dam shame, these manufacturers are just making pure junk these days.....i think older trucks from the early 2000's on back are way more reliable than these OVER priced trucks today
@@jobu9224 100% correct that cylinder deactivation was nothing but a sales pitch for gas mileage and more junk to go wrong...hell if people are worried about gas mileage well don't buy a car, use public transportation 👍🏾
I bought a low miles (54k) 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and AFM. I only found out about lifter failure associated with Chevy trucks with AFM or DFM after purchase. In hopes of holding off lifter failure I bought an auto tuner and deactivated AFM so it never activates. One day I hope to be able to afford an AFM Delete kit that replaces all the lifters and cam shaft with a normal non-AFM system.
I saw this article and laughed. I have a 2020 LTZ 5.3L and 8 speed with just over 10k miles. It's been fine minus a hard shift from 1st to 2nd a few months back when the truck is cold, first shift of the day and have not seen this issue in a few months. I had a 2019 Colorado I traded in because the trans shudder never fully went away even though they flushed and replaced the fluid and dash trim they replaced rattled like crazy. Other than that and a radio glitch (truck would not play radio thru speakers, restarted the truck fixed it.) My Silverado has been fine. Fingers crossed nothing else gives me any trouble and I still really love the truck.
2015 GMC Sierra All Terrain. 184,000 miles. Only replace 1 sensor which was a known issue but no recall. Only 2 recalls so far. ONe seatbelt adjustment and one reprogram of steering under 5mph. All original suspension and engine bay. No accessories needed replaced at all. Every GM I have owned has hit 235K except one car I traded in early for the truck. Most hit 335K easily. Very few issues.
My 2017 Silverado transmission just went out at 92k miles and I’m considering trading it in.... rear main seal went out at 50k miles.... never had problems like this with my older model chevys.
Great video. I always go by the old saying "If you have less stuff, there is less stuff that can break." I didn't know it at the time, but I was lucky to get my 2019 Silverado Custom Trail Boss with the older 5.3 w/ AFM and 6 spd. Apparently they have way less issues than all the newer options. They need to stick to one configuration and perfect it. Like Honda does. We don't need 200 different options.
Just picked up 2021 Silverado LTZ with the 5.3L 8 speed but I got the Z71 which has the 2 speed autotrac transfer case. Going 75 mph on the freeway my RPM's are only 1200. It is like the engine is barely running. So far gas mileage is 21.3. Crazy good. If I keep my foot out of the gas peddle which is hard to do cause this thing wants to scream fast. Also I did not get the active fuel management option so it runs on all 8 cylinders all the time. So far nice truck but only have 1500 miles on it. One thing to note 88% of this truck is made from offshore components. Yes it is assembled in the USA (Fort Wayne IN) but that's it. Crawl underneath one and look at the country of origin stickers and paint on all the components. Canada, Mexico, China everywhere.
It should state on your sales sticker the percentage of parts from different countries. And all full-size trucks are the same these days with parts coming in from other countries.
My 04 2500hd had 294k on it before the head gaskets went. Did the head gaskets and kept it moving till the truck got totaled by a dumbass who wasnt paying attention. Can't complain about 300k miles
200K? That's not "reliable," that's just qualifying to even be offered for sale! At modern price points, if a vehicle won't do 300K miles *miinimum*, I'm going to be spending my hard-earned FRN$ elsewhere... Don't get me started on "regular maintenance" costs when idiotic rubber band cam drives on interference engines comes into play!
@@maxlu2456 agreed. We have a 2016 Ford Flex and it now has 54k miles on it. Trouble free thus far and I do regular maintenance on it. I would expect another 50k miles before anything begins to deteriorate.
Imagine bragging that your brand new truck hasn't had an issue for a whole 15,000 miles. Definitely a "domestic" truck buyer lol. I'll tell you what, just an example. I was looking at a new Tundra or a new Powerstroke (I've owned 3 Tundras including my current 2006 with 245,000 miles). So, naturally I went to the forums. The Ford guys discussed where to buy the cheapest extended warranty, while the Toyota guys said that an extended warranty was a waste of money. That told me all I needed to know. I'm holding off for the Tundra redesign, or maybe an 07 LBZ Duramax.
@@adampennington8954 I would take what you said to heart, unfortunately you also have men like me where the 60k plus miles do not matter as I rotate new vehicles every year. I appreciate the "domestic truck buyer" remark though. Good luck with your search
I think CR is not oriented to working vehicles, its subscribers are upmarket middle class who buy lots of new stuff. The rankings are based on the responses of its subscribers, who are likely suburban and not contractors or those who work the trucks. But, for what it is, CR is pretty valid.
CR subscribers buy what CR tells them to buy. Group think herd mentality at its worst. So they buy a Toyota and make excuses when it breaks and lie on the survey that nothing has gone wrong. Ultra fan boys. Especially since the only reason ever to buy a Toyota would be the supposed reliability. They are bland boring cars. Are uncomfortable, drive poorly, with underpowered engines and old technology. But say you want something that is an appliance. You can depend on. You buy the Toyota. Then how embarrassing is it to yourself when it is no better than the Chevy you traded on it? People love to lie to themselves. Or to protect an image. “I buy quality”. Not saying Toyotas are not reliable but they don’t stand out by any means. Take that from a mechanic with 22 years experience. P.S. every Toyota owner will tell you about their own,or their uncle’s, or their Dad who had 500k on his with only routine maintenance. All fake. All cars have rubber bushings in the suspension, balljoint wear internally, bearings wear, clutches in auto transmissions wear. Sure a good car uses better materials but nothing goes 500k without suspension repairs, auto trans overhaul, motor mounts, sensors, and oil seals/gaskets. Nothing!
@@AlphanumericCharacters Some of those 500,000 vehicles need a lot of normal replacement items, but its still run fine, but they probably leak oil. Definitely the struts are worn out. But some people don't care as long as it gets them where they want to go. Starters will wear out. The car owners that I get a kick out of are those who never replace timing belts and get away with it. Bald tires. Worn brakes. Gambling isn't an attribute of vehicle longevity.
Im all for consumer information and transparency but how does one calculate a reliability score on a 2021 vehicle with such a small window of operation? Given alot of failures require time, use, operational variation - how objective and useful are these scores? Is the polling sample exactly the same for each model? The problem with review sites is that you see 25 people complain about their cars (which is human nature) - but in a forced sample of 10000 owners who all have no complaint but 25 complain - how predicable and relevant is the failure?
It's based on past performance. If it's all new, they won't predict reliability, but if it's just minor changes, they can predict based on past performance. In any case, it's not a guarantee, it's just how most of that particular car will perform.
I had a two Chevy Silverados. 2017 and 2018 they had 8 speed and 6 speed transmissions. Both had terrible bangs in the transmissions on the down shifts. I got rid of both. I lost thousands. I traded my truck for a 2013 GMC Sierra 2500 hd wit Duramax diesel and Allison transmission. I love this truck. Finally satisfied. GM never helped me nor did they care. The dealership did what they could. Basically don't by gas engines and don't buy anything but an Allison transmission.
Have a 2019 Silverado Custom 4.3 6 speed with 4WD and zero problems so far. Not towing, just haul camping and photography equipment in the bed. It goes as fast as I need it to go on dirt roads and highways. Only drawback is crappy MPG @ 18 -19 Average MPG but then it’s a brick on wheels, so....
Considering that my company has a Ford fleet program, and 7 out of 20 trucks have all been in the shop for A/C failure, ignition failure, and suspension failure, I have to wonder where Consumer Reports is getting their reliability figures. Also, my 2020 Ford F-350 just got out of the shop after 3 weeks for a transmission recall, in which the entire transmission had to be dropped to replace a planetary gear after just 5000 miles. I have had equal issues from GM in the past, but to be honest, I think its how much money the various companies are handing over to Consumer Reports to get favorable reviews. Its 2021, and I trust absolutely no media other than real reports I find on UA-cam and internet forums.
Best way to know if something is reliable or not is to ask the techs and service writers at your dealership. I never trusted these sites, no telling how many manufacturers send employees to write complaints about other brands. The sheer fact that ram is above a Tundra is blasphemy. Also tried saying that the new ram interiors were nicer than the German brands which is another joke in itself
My son is a service tech at our local GMC dealership. He says the new trucks are as reliable as they've ever been. As a matter of fact they are suffering from lack of work in the shop. The later models just aren't having any issues. Most engine issues they do see are from lack of changing the oil. The owners will swear they change it regularly, but when it comes out like mud, its pretty obvious it hasn't. I don't put an ounce of credibility in these "consumer" reports. They are more unreliable than the vehicles they report on.
Gary Mccarver about a year ago, we saw a lot of 8 speeds come in but we follow the TSB and change the fluid to Dexron HP and we don’t see the customers anymore for that issue. The 8 speeds are solid units and can handle a lot of heat and horsepower, they may be clunky with that old fluid but we haven’t yet seen one come in that needed to be replaced. We replace more 6L80’s than anything, especially if the fluid wasn’t changed before 50k miles. The engines that need to be rebuilt or replaced are obvious the oil wasn’t changed.
I understand that there was a period of time when the 2019s were being run down the line, the transmissions were recieving the wrong transmission fluid and that was the sole reason for shuddering transmissions. A simple flush and refilling with the intended fluid, the problem forever went away. I had a 2016 GMC Canyon that I crisscrossed the country towing a 4,500lb RV. With over 60,000 miles on it I never had to lay a screwdriver on it. It worked flawlessly. I recently traded it on a 2020 Silverado RST 5.3. Likewise, it has performed flawlessly, I guess time will tell.
ubeuonly 1 I get to set in quite a few.... daily... The ram limited interiors are nice... but to say they’re nicer than luxury cars is a JOKE! No luxury car owner now turned ram truck owner is saying the interior is nicer than luxury vehicles... that in itself shows the paid loyalty these “consumer reports” have
My 2016 Tahoe... 5.3 V8 with the 6 speed trans DIED at 100,000 miles... I drive it soft, and change the fluid every 30k miles. I don't tow much either. My transmission mechanic told me the new transmissions just suck! I had a 2003 Chevy Tahoe.. that baby went 220,000 miles before trans died. Fluid changed every 30k with synthetic too!
I have a 2006 Tundra with 150K miles that's had 2 brake jobs, but still has original rotors. I replaced the belt's including timing, hoses, and water pump last year. Have used Mobile 1 with Purolater filters since new. It has never broke down on me for any reason. I wouldn't be afraid to get in it and drive across the county on a moments notice.
And I own a 2018 Silverado with cheap Chinese plastic parts warped, braking, and falling off the darn thing. Console lights burning out, overhead console falling, TMPS sensors failing within 5 weeks of replacement, and of course the loudest leaf springs made in the 60 years. GM is making sorry shoddy trucks while posting record profits. Consumers are like lemmings.
I think it's a mix of GM being junk and bias from consumer reports. The Ram 3500 was listed as the least reliable truck but the 2500 was in the top 3 for the most reliable trucks for the same model year. The differences between the trucks are minimal, and if anything, the 3500 should be more reliable because of the better transmission. Makes no sense.
Been very happy with mine, 2019 Sierra Denali. I have 29k and so far no issues at all. I have had a few recalls. So far it’s been much better than the 2016 F150 ecoboost I had before.
2018 Chevy Colorado Z71 with over 50k. Only issue I had was a transmission shutter that came down to humidity and the wrong factory transmission fluid. Dealership changed it out and no more shutter. Nice solid mid-size truck.
I have a 2018 GM Chevy Silverado LT with a 5.3 L that I bought back in July 2018 New. Today i have 50,000 miles on it and have never had a single issue ever with the vehicle. One thing I don’t care for is the active fuel management, this is why I never use sixth gear, even on the freeway. it revs at 2300k on the freeway with out an issue, & I only loose about 1 mpg…..not bad Considering it’s always in V-8 mode…. the way a v8 is meant to be.
I worked on gm and ford trucks gm problems all the time and people loved them ford one thing went wrong the truck was nothing but trouble never listen to owners look at the facts
Consumer reports is the same publication that gave the chevy prizm a terrible rating and the Toyota carolla the best rating. In the same year. AND THEY ARE THE SAME CAR.
Yes, they also rated the 2019 Tacoma as poor reliability because of a transmission shift problem that was fixed back in 2016 with a simple software update.
Like many of you know, ALL vehicle manufactures have had some issues at some point with their vehicles. EVERY manufacturer posts recalls and yes some are serious but this applies to all car manufacturers. I have purchased 6 straight Silverado 1500 trucks (all 8 Cyl) and I only had one issue with an A/C hose leak that was quickly replaced by the dealership at their cost. Don't be afraid to buy GM/Chevy products, remember there is nothing more important than properly maintaining your vehicle and taking action when you do suspect an issue. A good ownership experience begins with buying the right vehicle for the intended use. IF you plan to tow, then make sure that you purchase the right truck, IF you plan to do some off-roading be sure to purchase the right truck, it's pretty simple but everyone has their opinions and it always seems to come down to brand loyalty.
I take CR with a shaker of salt. But from what I have seen lately, the GM trucks have been having a few serious issues, mainly with the fuel management system and lifters failing.
Sold consumer electronics back in the day and CR recommended Fischer VCR highly and they were complete trash. Same for some refrigerators at the time. Generally speaking uneducated people making observations. And the ones who speak are the ones with problems
I bought a 2017 Silverado 5.3 with a 6 speed trans. Had it three years and traded it in because of transmission issues. Bought a 2020 Silverado with a 3.0l duramax diesel and I put 4400 miles on it and the transmission went out. GM warrantied it out but now it always runs hot. During the summer the average temp would be 207-220. Everything else works as advertised just always worried about the transmission leaving me and my family stranded. Die hard GM fan but now find myself looking at the ram trucks
Yep it sure is. My 2021 has been in the shop 3 times already. Dealership call me this morning and told me the lifters need to be replaced. I am done with this Silverado and planning to order a Toyota Tundra.
I have had nothing but horror with every GM vehicle I have ever made the mistake of buying. One chevy truck engine blew up on the way home from being repaired at the dealership. On the other hand currently driving 2010 f150, over 100,000 miles, not had a single problem.
@laker nation @MR.GLENN LANDSCAPES yeah... what laker nation said. If you take care of it, routine oil changes and maintenance, it will be OK. 2005 Chevy Colorado and it has 154,000 and is doing fine. I'll be buying a '23 Colorado when they're released. And keeping the older one for my kids to drive and learn on because it's still on great condition.
A week ago I bought the 2021 Silverado Lt 5.3 8 speed and 2 days later at the 236 mile mark the truck would not go into gear. Every gear was neutral and my wife kids and my self where stranded all check engine light came on. Dealer sent out a tow and we got a loaner. It’s still in the shop and no updates. I think it electrical not sure at this point. I just want my truck back and working!!! Anyone have this issue happen to them?
My dads 2017 Silverado z71 4x4 , had a oil leak. This was caused by a warped oil pan from the factory. Took it to them six times. They finally called the place where they installed the motor. They had it on record, that they installed a warped oil pan. They gave him a a hundred and thirty thousand mile warranty.
Just now seeing this video but we had a 2018 Silverado, 5.3L and we had issues before and after the brake recall as well as a new transmission at 23k miles. When you’d pull the gear lever from park to drive, it would lunge forward as if already in second gear and would gradually start backing the brakes off even when fully stomped down. It was great fun lol
@@hellkitty1014 good point on HD. This is just 1500 though. I’ll say this, the move to the ZF transmission was the BEST decision they have ever done. I’d say that right there is why I keep seeing Ram place higher in reliability surveys.
No significant probs to report after a year with 2020 RST 5.3L 8-speed 4WD except the AGM battery had to be replaced. By the way, when the battery goes with new trucks even the transmission gets wacky. The bad CR report has me a little worried but we see here the models and all have so many combinations that it’s hard to say where the risky factors are. The 6.2 L sells to macho guys but it runs on premium fuel which, last I checked, was $0.80 more a gallon. They lowered the price on the diesel for 2021 making it affordable. The head unit (or center stack display) is a little buggy sometimes, such as when losing the SiriusXM signal for no reason. I asked them to refill the NITROGEN for the tires (which is touted as valuable feature) but spying on the mechanic I saw he used plain air.
I'm here to confirm reliability issues with the 2021 Silverado.. Mine is in service right now with 3300 miles and needs new lifters.. My brother-in-law has a 2021 also, and his has been in service 3 times under 5000 miles. We both have RST trim with the 5.3 and 8 speed. I bought mine in FL he bought his in PA.
Consumer reports changed the Toyota Camry from best buy to do not buy back when they had accelerator problems. I have a hard time trusting them. Truth is, we don't really know what's reliable until 10 years later.
Those camry's have turned out to great cars. I had one for almost 5 years and only dealt with a loose windshield wiper and a window actuator that went out under warranty.
I’m so torn … I’ve been wanting a new Silverado for ages and I love these and I’m ready to pick one up and I keep seeing complaints about them “most unreliable”
@@35057 who buys a truck for gas mileage? Trucks aren't for economy gas savers lol. I'd just get the tundra. You'll be amazed. There's a reason why they say toyotas reliability is "legendary" and "bulletproof". My 07 sequoia still running fine original everything. Just routine preventable maintenance. Belts water pumps brakes suspension. That's it.
@@Unckickz I know Toyota is reliable but why flush away thousands of dollars a year for no reason besides brand loyalty, and when you don’t have to spend that much. There are other trucks out there that are also reliable and will keep money in your pocket. I had a truck a couple years ago that was guzzling 43 gallons of fuel a week. That was $400/mo I could have put toward something else. Better fuel economy reduces cost of ownership..
Looking to compare to prior year's reports? Here is the Consumer Reports information for the 2020 models: ua-cam.com/video/HxUfxLZBuQU/v-deo.html
Ford had two billion dollars in warranty paid out over GM.. that was in the news last week.
I know more people that own Chevy trucks including myself.. the few f1whimpy owners I know have more issues with their Ford's...
THIS IS EXACTLLY WHY I PUT 500 BUCKS INTO MY 96 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 4X4 5.2LITER ENGINE WITH THE A500 TRANS WITH THE 249J TRANSFER CASE. I FIXED ALL THE POTENTAL ENGINE LEAKS BY REMOVING ALL THE OLD GASKETS AND TIMING CHAIN AND GASKETS OIL PAN GASKET TOO. BOTH MAIN SEALS AT SAME TIME IN THE CRANK BEARINGS. NOW THE ONLY THING COULD HAPPEN IS A THROWN ROD. I REBUILT MY TRANSMISSION 10K MILES AGO. IT USES ABOUT HALF A QUART OF OIL PER 4000 MILE OIL CHANGE SO ITS PREETY GOOD INTERNALLY. JUST A TINY BIT OF RING OR CYLINDER WEAR BUT WHO CARES. MY POINT IS ITS WORTH FIXING THE OLDER MODEL JEEPS BUT NOT NEWER SHITY ONES OR ANYTHING NEW TODAY THEY ALL SUCK AND MOSTLY PLASTIC PIPING. AND MUCH MORE LIKE INTAKES U NAME IT MAN.
@@cliffcorbitt9494 my buddy does the same thing!! He buy's OLDER GM's for 600 to 1000 dollars, goes through them and drives them for 6 to 10 years with no major issues..
NEWER GM TRUCKS ARE LOSING RELIABILITY AS THEY
TRY TO HIT GOVERNMENT FUEL ECONOMY. THE
OLDER CHEVY TRUCKS ARE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE
NEW ONES.
@@williamlincoln7695 some yes.
I have a 2014 silverado with 118,000 trouble free miles! Not one problem!
I off road often, and sometimes drive it hard! It's been slightly air born off roading and the original tires lasted 86,000 miles..
I am a tech (heavy line)for a local Chevy dealer, and the new style engine is completely different, the older 5.3, 6.0, trucks with cylinder deactivation, where only 4 cylinder cut off. Now the new trucks have all cylinder deactivation, which the top of the block is machined different for this, I find it odd how lifter failure has not been listed in any video I’ve seen, and it’s a real and huge problem. I would not recommend the new style Chevy/gmc full size with a 5.3 (L84) at all. I’ve worked for Chevy for a long time and have always been a fan, but the new engine is very disappointing. I’m not trolling, just giving my input from where I see the truck
Any suggestions on a new truck brand outside of Chevy
Hey Michael. What are your thoughts on the refreshed LZ0 diesel for the 1500 trucks?
@@atfireman4175 they’ve been pretty good, but I have seen some harness issues
I ordered a 2023 1500 custom trailboss with the diesel this week and the dealership called me back and told me that they couldn’t do it right now bc gm kicked the order back for the diesel. Any particular reason why?
Ram uses the same type of cylinder deactivation.
We bought a 2016 gmc Denali. For the wife. It looked great and she liked the ride. We had the 6.2 motor. Paid a bit but was very impressed with it initially. Truck was used for running kids around for hockey and such. Very easy life lol. It all started at around 25000 Kim’s. we hit the remote start and the seat caught on fire. The warmer would not shut off burnt seat gave a great smell to the truck. Around this time we noticed a lot of paint chips. Stopped into dealer. It’s the dirt roads they said hmmmm truck has never been on a dirt road. Oh they said and suggested a $1000 dollar 3m coating. Did we not just pay $70000. At this point the 8 speed transmission had been put in learner mode 3 times. Because it never shifted right. And it never would. There were more recalls than I can remember this morning. Power steering. Brakes. They took out the slider rear window because it was a fire hazard lol. The motor developed a load tick. It was a bent valve road. $5500 repair. About this time all 4 electromagnetic shocks went. They are $3500 here in the frozen north. There was so much I can’t remember. My wife bought a new Honda CRV and loves it. I cannot tell you how financial stress and family stress this truck caused. That was our first GMC. The dealer and GM were like snake oil salesman saying anything and screw you. I have owned a lot of vehicles and this was the worst. If you cannot build and sell $70000 dollar truck and look after your clients you will be bankrupt AGAIN. I know of a lot of people who have had the same experience. The worst quality I have ever seen. Run away. Gm deserves to perish it’s an old tired dinosaur that needs to go.
Man that's some bad luck.
Yeah I hear you, I worked as a tech at a GM dealer from 2014- 2018 and the gas trucks had nothing but issues. In cold climates like we have in Canada the direct injected V8’s actually overfuel so bad on cold starts that the engine oil gets badly diluted with gas... bad enough that it causes loss of oil pressure quite often.
I know several people with GMC Denalis and have never had one problem. A friend of mine has owned four of them in a row. No problems. Maybe they run better in Texas. lol
@@TexanUSMC8089 Lmao....4 in a row. Yeah, when you replace it every few years, your chance of problems goes away
i once owned a gmc "denial", never ever again!!!
I am done with GM forever. I’ve owned 3 new GM trucks and every one of them gave serious problems. I went and bought a new Toyota and no problems.
Even with the sierra brand new?
@@kingnonsense Yes. All trucks past 2014 have too much tech. Your best bet by far is a used lo mile Tundra V8 equipped like you want. You can thank me later.
@@paulmoss7940 I'm thinking about getting a 2022 tundra
@@kingnonsense Man I hafta tell ya I'm not high on the new ones. A turbo V6, NO trans cooler ,and an ugly nose. Some rumor about a subscription service on electronics ? Ima stick with a proven V8. Good Luck.
@@kingnonsense They dont have the v8 anymore....and that butt ugly frontend
The problem with all of them, whether it's GM, Ford, Toyota, etc., is that really none of them are "work" trucks and you have waaaaaaay too much electronics and what they really want is to make everyone go to a dealership for repair. The problem with that is, is they can't fix them either!!!
Exactly - neal a.
Unfortunately i believe youre correct. I say unfortunately because i dont see it ending. The only time electronics made a vehicle more reliable is when they got rid of mechanical points. Outside of that, I really don't see electronics improving the reliability at all. There's way too many sensors and way too many actuators controlling simple functions that should be done by mechanical levers. I wish you can go back in time when we had cars like the old Toyotas with the 20R and the five speed. Or a small block 350 made it to a 700R4. We should have stopped at basic throttle body EFI. And then jumped to electric vehicles. The other crap we're just Band-Aids that are always falling off.
The tundras are solid. Idk what you are talking about. The rams and chevys are the ones dropping lifters and grenading cams
@@270eman toyota has been superior ever since I can remember. I think at least since they were imported into the United States. My dream car "if i could afford it" would include a toyota 20r engine as part of the powertrain, Because they are bulletproof if you do basic maintenance.
@@270eman and transmissions left and right
It's not just gm its all the big 3 manufacturers are making CHEAP junk and charging ridiculous prices for a truck
Cheap, yeah like Toyota removing auxiliary transmission coolers in the 2019 and newer model Tundras.
@@alienation-e6h, ford done same thing on f150 since 2018
@@alienation-e6h its not 2019
@@repairvehicle Wrong. Toyota Tundra is the only 1/2 ton pickup currently sold in the US that doesn't offer an auxiliary transmission cooler.
@@alienation-e6h ,f150 does not offer either. Mine 2018 does not have it.
2014 LTZ Z71 Silverado owner with 82,000 miles. Still original brakes on it and only thing replaced so far was the battery, engine and cabin air filters, headlamps and turn signal lamps.
I don't think these reviews are for 2014 trucks ;)
82000 miles with no problems really isn’t that impressive.
While that is great for you, that’s not that great overall.
@@jeffreycuellar241 yeah I don't start singing the praises of a car until I get at least 100k trouble free miles on it. Higher with a Toyota or Honda.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that there is an inverse relationship between the greed of the board members at GM and the reliability of the truck they produce.
Perhaps Mary Barra is not up to the task?
@@MisterMikeTexas - I was never really a fan of her, but that is just me.
Hahahahaha
Yes, the white collars do not care about the vehicle quality., It about how many vehicles the can sell to fill their pockets.
Did you guy's know Toyota's CEO is capped at 500,000 a year??
No Chrysler Ford and GM!
Their CEOs have no cap ..
Another group of business criminals....
@@philllsxga.7737 If you Google it, it says Toyota paid their CEO 1.86 million last year...not including his shares in the company.
I have a 2003 GMC Sierra. Still running fine at 329,000 miles. 👍
Consumer reports have been bashing Chevy trucks for 40 years. I've had 12 trucks over those years,all chevy. No problems. All over 150000 when I traded them in. Not all will be perfect. Thanks to social networking the bad always gets reported not so much the good. Take care of your truck no matter what make and you should have limited problems. As always, just my opinion.
They liked the Avalanche.
@@drh3b I agree and buy warranty to cover your usage and ownership duration. People will spring an extra 4k on big wheels but wont buy an extra 60k miles of warranty for half that.
Yes , I had a few gm trucks with just a little be low average problems then I got a 2017 gmc sierra after 5000 miles it just started falling apart, I don't see me buying anymore gm junk, to much other decent trucks to pick from out there
@@marshallforeman2051 it did not
I bought new Chevy trucks in 2002, 2006, 2015, and 2021. All with the 5.3. The only problem I had was the 6 speed tranny in the 2006 went out at 90k miles, cost me $1400. I really liked all four trucks outside of that one repair. During that time I have seen new Ford trucks with serious engine problems, two different friends blew up two different fords going home from the same fishing trip. I am not picking on Ford, but it happens across all lines.
I believe the 10 speed transmission was developed as a joint venture with Ford and GM. It is used by both companies.
Fact
Correct. Wikipedia has all the info about it
Don't read too much into that. Some friction parts, planetary gearsets, and sprags can be identical but the case, valve body, and torque converters would likely be from each company's in house or usual supplies. There is huge savings by development of those first pieces mentioned and by larger scale components purchase.
The surveys do a poor job of details. The questions and the customer knowledge can treat a slow gear engagement first time in the morning as the same as quit pulling and wouldn't move 200 miles from the house. Problems with touchscreens and pairing cellphones are far far larger problems than real issues with drivetrain in vehicles in the last 10 years.
Yup. And they’re junk
Tim, you already know what you have do next. Interview someone from Consumer Reports and have them explain this stuff.
Please do!
It’s gonna be a liberal with pink hair
Jerry Wilson
Ha, which one?
A buddy of mine bought a new Chevy Silverado 4X4 in 2020. The only issue I know about is he does not like the transmission shifting. So far as I know of there were no other issues.
Don't know, have near zero issues with my 2009 GMC canyon. It has outlasted three of my coworkers Tacoma's.
2017 silverado wt with 5.3/6peed. Over 100k on it now and zero issues. Lifted 8" on 35" mud tires. I tow a 18ft boat and beat it up in the mud and cant seem to break it...yet
The last 5 pickups I've owned have been gm products and have traded before running into the problem of faulty lifters. With the new ones it's not just faulty lifters but also many different electronic failures as well. So I swapped brands. Ram out of the question and so was this 1st gen twin turbo v6 that is in the tundra. So it was between the f150 and titan. I got a lot more for my dollar with the titan and best warranty in class. Very nice, reliable v8 with no cylinder deactivation.
Got both 2019 GMC Denali 6.2 with 55k miles and a 2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi with 90k miles...love them both got a bit more mileage on the RAM but since I have the Denali I tow my 5500lbs boat more often than I do with the RAM...I can't complain about either truck..I've had to change the battery in the RAM other than that both works great very reliable...I think the key to any vehicle is regular oil changes I never leave mine go to it's change limit I almost cut that in half and change my oil very often and I've had GM and Dodge trucks since the late 80's...Ford I can't sat I never had one but I sure have friends that had issues with the 3.5 ecoboost....when those guys traded they got the 5.0 and that engine seems fine...I don't go by any consumer guides never have I truly believe they have a bias one way or another.
What trans is in the Denali? 6 speed
I finally lost all faith in GM when their lawyers concocted the defense of “design” vs “manufacturing” defects when defending the 8-speed issues. Basically they’re saying that because the 8-speed problems stem from a design issue and the warranty states that it covers manufacturing defects, they aren’t really responsible for fixing the problem for free. They knew they were a problem and still installed them in their trucks. They knew they had lifter issues but they never seemed to be interested in (or failed miserably at) making improvements. The prices keep going up, though. No thanks.
I had a GM once and was burned. Switched to a Toyota Tundra and couldn’t be more happy.
My 2015 Nissan Frontier is a daily driver. Never had a reason to take it to the dealer. It isn't fancy and is the base model king cab.
eyesalooking. : at the end of the day though, you’re still riding in a Datsun aka Nissan.
@Dr. SJC
Exactly. Nissan has been making those Frontiers for ages. The quality should be really good by now.
That will run forever
Base models are always best.
There are several trucks from ALL of the manufacturer's that prove to be very reliable and durable. Still........there are weak parts, systems, etc. in ALL of these trucks. The trick is to identify the weak parts and systems and see if the aftermarket has provided solutions in higher quality parts.
3 years ago my uncle bought a brand new GMC Sierra. 6 months later, his transmission starts slipping so he brings it into the dealer and they “fix” it. He gets the truck back and it runs fine for a day and it’s back to slipping. Brings it back and the SAME thing happens again, only this time he accelerates to get highway speed and we hear a clunk* and the transmission is leaking down the highway. Brings it in, and they say he need a new transmission and HE needs to pay for it. This is after he paid for the 2 previous “fixes”
He traded for a Ford F-150 and has been happy since.
2017 GMC Canyon with 112k miles, 2.8 Duramax. Bullet proof. Heading from FL to NY state (1300 miles) with my Suncoast 230 boat in tow for the third year. No problem. Eats the miles up and flows with traffic on I95. Can't wait for 2022 Canyon Duramax. I will have it!!!
I had the 2019 trail Boss 5.3 6 speed active fuel management and had major transmission problems and dealer put in a new torque converter which did not fix and got tired of the issue and traded it in on a tundra and no more issues
Maybe if you get the GM I6 diesel and have transmission problems it will actually give a person a legitimate reason to drop the tranny and check their stupid oil pump belt.
@@jasons5842 no gm would quit making garbage then people would not buy japanese products
@@09roadraider40 my next truck will be a Tundra. I like companies that focus on quality and consumer satisfaction. We have a Sienna with >200,000 trouble free miles. Still runs like new. GM could only wish they can produce like that
I am getting ready to do the same thing. I am done with chevy
Just traded in 2021 Silverado for a 2019 tundra. The lifters went bad on the Silverado. Chevy fixed it but I lost confidence in this truck. The truck had only 20,000 miles on it when the lifters went bad. Bye bye Chevy. Just saw the new 2024 all electric Silverado nice looking truck but no thank you
I am a Master Technician with 40 years experience, I drive Toyotas right now. GM’s need things like switches and blower resistors, Fords need coils, PCM’s, Cam Phasers....I’ve done several water pumps on 3.5 Ford engines, timing chain driven. Thousands of dollars each. Ford 8 and 10 speed transmissions are on back order for so many early failures, my boss owns one and is worried about it.
Might not be in reports, but it’s in our shop.
All master mechanics and the managers in our shop drive Toyota or GM vehicles.
Maybe other shops are having different experiences?
The problem with consumer reports is the same problem you have when you’re eating in a restaurant. The people who had a good experience generally don’t talk about it; but the people who didn’t tell EVERYBODY. The amount of noise is not proportional to the actual number.
although manufacturer to manufacturer the noise should be the same. So relatively speaking it should still be some good info
Being a fleet manager for a multi billion dollar oil company, I can prove that GM trucks are far and away our most reliable trucks, half tons to 3500s. Also, GMs service after the sale is second to none. Stay away from anything Ram, unless 3500. Also, run away from away from any Ford EcoBoost or Powerstroke.....trust me and thank me later.
With 40 years of experience under my belt, looking at fleet maintenance numbers from various trucks and cars, and picking brains of scores of mechanic shop owners and looking at their real world numbers leads me to agree with the reports on Chevrolet, their reliability has been a problem for many years. Ford has seriously upped their game but, if anything, Chevy has gone the other direction.
@Jose Alberto Rosa-Suliveres totally agree!
My ford is trash 3.5 f150 trash I hate it Engine sounds like bag of bolts
He must be a ford owner lol
@@only1true540 why is it trash?
@@karimtemri1664 my 3.5 only 65,000 lots of noise coming from the Engine. Not cool 2018 change oil every 2000 miles I’m pissed
I have a 2021 Chevy Silverado with 120 million miles on it and I've never even had to put gas in it. Amazing truck.
You're awesome! I would categorize gm vehicles as unreliable. Somebody paid to put them on that list.
In 1982 I had a 1972 Renault sedan ... I am still mad at France !
😂
I have a 04 silverado with 160 000 miles. Runs like a champ..I love it..
I’m reading all the comments and it looks to me like all three manufacturers GM, Ford or Dodge have had issues with their pick up trucks. Hit and miss reliability in all of them
Lol you must be a GM owner
I had a landscape company and used all Chevy 2500's with the 6.2 v8 they were basic work trucks and they held up very very well no transmission failures and we plowed snow with those trucks which can be hard on any truck no matter the brand. Towed 4500 lbs a day with them full of mowing or landscape equipment. Talking to other competiors, the best story was one where they bought two Ram trucks both blew transmissions at 40K miles, still under warranty, and Ram said no free repair once they saw the plow frames on the truck.
Regular maintenance, remember- it’s not a Race car and enjoy. Buy what you like and take care of it. Lots of tremendous options/choice for buyers to meet most needs and wants.
Exactly. Sadly most people do not know how to drive. How many people race up to a red light? Or take off fast when it turns green??? Or turn corners extremely fast? All these actions put more stress on so many systems of the vehicle.
I drive the snot out of my Toyotas...they just dont break all that often...GM...FORD...suck. I know from ownership.
@@mikefoehr235 fair point but on that note, no matter the manufacturer, no trucks are perfect. I’ve owned Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra,F150 and Ram over the last 16 years and all have their pros and cons. When serviced and cared for, all these trucks performed good.
@@Miiike604 some brands just need way less care. Toyota comes to mind. My 13 Tacoma had two repairs...bearing and rear springs. Cannot say that about FORD/GM
@@mikefoehr235 Toyota trucks are great. Glad you found a brand that works for you and your lifestyle. Have a great weekend.
I have a 2019 Trail Boss with 41,000 miles and zero issues. I’ve actually just leveled it and put 34’s on it and ordered a custom leather interior and in my mind it’s the perfect truck for what I want and need. Now that I’ve said that I’m gonna have a major break down I know it…😂😂🤷🏻♂️
I’ve been burned twice by GM,not surprised at all.
I have also on 2017 gmc sierra, nothing but problems
Me too!
@@marshallforeman2051 my 04 has been rock solid
Don't use GM for your own good.
Had an 06 Silverado that had the Castech head problem (5.3L). Don't really feel like giving GM another shot.
My parents 2020 gmc truck after only 1 year of ownership the head unit is already failing, can’t wait to see what other fun electronic promblems it will develop
dont worry, in 4 years the rust will be so bad you will need a brand new GmC truck ;)
It’s interesting how complicated it gets when the choices of models and options get larger.
I do think if the options grow to be too many you can get to a point where you do nothing well. It can be a slippery slope.
Although I seem to remember so many people using CR as the reason to buy/ not to buy certain vehicles, CR continues to have bias in their reporting. For instance, over the years, Honda has had several rounds of transmission failures(even the current ZF 9spd), yet they rate them as high on reliability. Toyota literally had rusting frames on trucks and oil sludge concerns with their V6s, and they too remain solidly highly recommended. To your point on the Chevy, it is widely known that the 8spd is the trans to largely avoid, not due to failure but mostly odd shift feel and quality. But the HDs?? Up until very recently, they used Allison-made(not branded/licensed) which were virtually bulletproof, so their reporting remains very mixed on how they reach their results.
Actually all gm trucks are using gm made transmission. Even the 6speed Allison are made in gm factory.
@@mefastocastigo 10 speed was a joint venture with Ford. It works a lot better in GM trucks though. Ford's programming is absolute crap.
While Honda overall is higher than most in average reliability, they haven't been Toyota reliable for years. If you actually read their ratings, you'll see that some Hondas are only average reliability. Honda Accord goes from average to above average depending on the year as they find and fix problems. The transmission problems did lower their reliability ratings back over a decade ago. Suburu has also gone down. While also still more reliable than average, they are way behind Toyota.
Also, remember, their is a difference between their rating of the car as it functions, and it's reliability rating. There are some cars they really like, but don't recommend because of the reliability rating, and ones they find mediocre(but not bad) that they recommend because of it's reliability.
And, of course, Toyotas aren't perfect. They are just better than everyone else, on average, year after year. Nothing is guaranteed, they are merely predicting based on statistics. Even Toyota throws out the occasional lemon.
@@plmn93 this is a different transmission the one used in the gm hd trucks was designed by Allison and built by gm Ford played no part in it
The oil sludge only affected the 1MZ-FE and 3MZ-FE engines but it’s easily remedied by using full synthetic motor oil. The 2GR-FE is a bulletproof engine that is first introduced in the 2005 Toyota Avalon.
I’ve bought and drove GM trucks for 25 years. On truck 6 and all have been pretty dam good. Currently in a 6.2L 2020 RST and it’s amazing
I recently got. 2021 chevy Silverado rst w/6.2L and 10speed. I have had no issues with it, then again I’m not rough on my vehicles. I had an 08 Colorado with the I-5, 113K miles no issues. Needed the change in trucks. Take care of them and they can last a long time.
I would be laughing if a “2021” 60-70k truck break down within a few weeks. I had 800k miles on my 03 f150. Now I have a 2021 with no issues and ride smooth.
Tim, I would like to see reliability based on an annual survey and have that annual rating posted side by side with a 10 year average ranking. One year ratings are a snapshot, I want the history as well.
its not even one year, teh 21's are barely out yet, maybe its more like 2-3 months. obviously gm didnt pay the mafia their fee for the 21's so they are getting burned, lol.
It's a snapshot because manufacturers come out with new features and modules every year, plus recalls, plus "service improvements" (free fix when you make your next appointment), etc.
The most reliable hd truck is now ram instead of ford. I think the 150s still are in that class for a short time yet.
@@sonsofliberty3081 the ram will never be the most reliable truck.Dodge products always drive and run great for 1-2 years and then All hell breaks loose and you realize the bad buy you made
No one saying nothing about the turbos going out on the fords yet wondering why and injectors I bought a 2020 250 had 2 weeks turbo went out.
I dunno, I have a 2017 High Country 6.2L/ 8 speed and had no issues. If I remember correctly they had the same score back 5 years ago. Matience is the key and I can't stress this enough and I follow it to a T and over 100,000kms
Guess they built them better in 99. My Sierra is still going strong. My uncle bought a Dodge Ram same year and lasted 6 years. Sad quality dropping while prices keep rising.
I was a Chevy guy for years. But their quality has just gone downhill. Went to a Tundra 3 years ago and haven’t looked back. 👍
Same.
Sure. Not denying the Tundra is a great truck (I personally had a first gen and loved it) but when you sell the same truck year after year they tend to have all the bugs worked out. I bought my wife a new Venza way back when they were new (first year model) and we had nothing but issues with it. It went so far as leaving us stranded on the side of the road in Arizona with a failed water pump at 51,000 miles. We traded for a 4Runner and were happy with that until it was traded last year with close to 150,000 trouble free miles.
@@coryw.9086 Yeah.never buy a car until it's at least the 3rd year they made it. Model refreshes maybe after the 1st year are okay.
Daddy who won the second world war ? JAPAN !
You haven’t looked back, and no one’s looking for you, with that nerd truck.
idk about the 10 speed because i haven't had it yet. I hear all over the place that the 8 speed is really bad. But i have had two 6 speed trucks and im about to order a third. The 6 speeds are incredible transmissions. I overloaded my two past half ton 5.3 trucks with 6 speeds on multiple occasions. overheated the trans in one while over loaded twice and still had zero issues. and that was at 160k miles. i'm finally ordering a 3/4 ton which should be better for what i do and im happily getting the 6.6 gasser with the 6 speed. i'm partially glad GM didn't go to the 10 speed in the gasser 6.6 because i know that 6 speed is absolutely bullet proof. Also i never have had any issues with DFM or DOD in my 2 2014 and newer GM trucks. But i change my own oil regularly and use high end products.
I’m a mechanic at a Toyota dealer BUT two good friends own independent shops. Here’s the problem with Consumer Reports, they don’t do specific trim levels and power trains, they just group them all together. GM truck trans issue is the 6 speed, it’s freakin awful but the 8 speed is bulletproof. The GM/Ford codeveloped 10 speed is also bulletproof except in the Fords where they have a software issue. Most of the the 6&8 speed complaints are shifts hard which is actually a good thing, that’s what you want and especially in a truck but people want there trucks to be 4dr sedans now because that’s it’s only use for them so they want the Lexus shift which will cause premature converter and clutch pack failures. The pickup is the new sedan lol.
Ram lol I’ve owned 2 1. 3500 Cummins which mechanically was awesome but it suffered from wind noise, water leaks, electrical issues, interior just fell apart. 2. 1500 5.7 same exact issues as the other but adding a blown head gasket on the left cylinder bank. And I’m not alone with these issues with Ram. They’re good looking trucks in and out but what a pos.
For CR to say it rates right up there with a Toyota is why I never listen to anything they say…. EVER! CR is full of shite!
No disrespect to this guy and his channel, but I think most complaints and comments from people are what is unreliable.
I absolutely love my 2021 Silverado 1500 LTE and 6.2 engine. Not one issue. 18k miles and tows extremely. Smooth, rugged, powerful. I’ll ignore the trash talk.
Must be nice.
Mine just had a lifter fail at 2400km.
Absolutely no excuse for this to happen on a brand new truck.
This is a complete joke and I've never been so disappointed in my life.
@irok1d are they gonna take care of you or are you out of pocket ?
Consumer reports has been shitting on GM forever. I always found it interesting that JD Power marks them better than most in comparison. JD Power "only" gets their info from owners. Sometimes owners of three years. Consumer Reports has a reputation of being useless to anyone who does actual research.
My mother in law bought a washer based on CR some years ago. It literally broke so often she couldn't give it away, yet CR praised it. They are a garbage institution that bends at the knee for whoever writes the largest check. I wouldn't use them to help pick a paper clip.
My 2019 ltz had a recall on the brakes…..never had a problem until I let my battery die…it locked up my parking brake and it wouldn’t release when I put new battery in it. It was crazy. They repaired it and no problems at all.
My 2017 Colorado was awful. On top of the very common transmission issues, I had trouble with the heater, radio and backup camera...all before 20k miles. After about a dozen trips to the dealer, and still no resolution for the transmission problems, I got rid of it last summer just north of 40k miles. That was the 7th, and last, GM I've owned.
Had the same issues with my Canyon. Took it to the Toyota dealer and problem solved.
Sorry for those who saw the video last night with some flickering. Turns out it was an outdated graphics driver. First time I've encountered this issue.
Well at least you actually fix your issues.*cough* GM
My 8 speed has been fine so far. Only one recall for my truck was a tcm update. It came with Mobil 1 oil already and so far so good
Same here!
Good Luck with the "piece of junk" 8 speed transmission. Major Class Action Lawsuit going on.
@@15Jeep Its actually been fixed, they put a heavier weight transmission fluid in.
@@andybub45 Maybe.....time will tell. Sure is a plethora of GM trucks with the 8 speed transmissions that were destroyed prior to the engineers resolving the problem with heavier weight ATF. I certainly would not want a GM truck with the 8 speed transmission.
Stay away from gm, had all kinds of problems with 2017 GMC sierra, don't have time to lest all the problems, got rid of that POS thru lemon settle meant , went with ford an will never go back to GM
Just finished doing a DOD swap on a 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 with the 5.3. Truck had 53,000 miles on it and the camshaft lost 2 lobes. Had frequent oil changes by GM dealer. Useless! GM voided the warranty because the customer had changed the spark plug wires and spark plugs trying to solve the miss.
I'd never buy GM again after that.
I’ve seen a lot of this! Cams and liters
Something else seems amiss here. There are others with no issues.
Co-workers transmission in his silverado went out after maybe 2 years. Trucks as a whole shouldn't go over 6 speeds.
I agree, they are putting car transmissions in trucks, GM went through all that trouble to design 3 wonderful truck engines and are ruining it with terrible transmissions and idiotic cylinder deactivation schemes.
@@jobu9224 my 02 Silverado with a 4l60e 4 speed is all I need and has been trouble free so far👍🏾
My 2020 silverado 1500 rst with just a little over 2000 miles transmission went on the first time towing my boat which weighs about 1800 pounds , transmission fluid all over the ground .
@@davidstephens7273 that's a dam shame, these manufacturers are just making pure junk these days.....i think older trucks from the early 2000's on back are way more reliable than these OVER priced trucks today
@@jobu9224 100% correct that cylinder deactivation was nothing but a sales pitch for gas mileage and more junk to go wrong...hell if people are worried about gas mileage well don't buy a car, use public transportation 👍🏾
I bought a low miles (54k) 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and AFM. I only found out about lifter failure associated with Chevy trucks with AFM or DFM after purchase. In hopes of holding off lifter failure I bought an auto tuner and deactivated AFM so it never activates. One day I hope to be able to afford an AFM Delete kit that replaces all the lifters and cam shaft with a normal non-AFM system.
I saw this article and laughed. I have a 2020 LTZ 5.3L and 8 speed with just over 10k miles. It's been fine minus a hard shift from 1st to 2nd a few months back when the truck is cold, first shift of the day and have not seen this issue in a few months. I had a 2019 Colorado I traded in because the trans shudder never fully went away even though they flushed and replaced the fluid and dash trim they replaced rattled like crazy. Other than that and a radio glitch (truck would not play radio thru speakers, restarted the truck fixed it.) My Silverado has been fine. Fingers crossed nothing else gives me any trouble and I still really love the truck.
I traded my 2018 Colorado as well because of the transmission shudder. It was so bad , I felt like it was falling apart.
2015 GMC Sierra All Terrain. 184,000 miles. Only replace 1 sensor which was a known issue but no recall. Only 2 recalls so far. ONe seatbelt adjustment and one reprogram of steering under 5mph. All original suspension and engine bay. No accessories needed replaced at all. Every GM I have owned has hit 235K except one car I traded in early for the truck. Most hit 335K easily. Very few issues.
I just traded my 2016 gmc, new transmission after 63,000 km... was ready to go again at 115,00km.
My 2017 Silverado transmission just went out at 92k miles and I’m considering trading it in.... rear main seal went out at 50k miles.... never had problems like this with my older model chevys.
Great video. I always go by the old saying "If you have less stuff, there is less stuff that can break." I didn't know it at the time, but I was lucky to get my 2019 Silverado Custom Trail Boss with the older 5.3 w/ AFM and 6 spd. Apparently they have way less issues than all the newer options. They need to stick to one configuration and perfect it. Like Honda does. We don't need 200 different options.
When the first priority is cutting cost, then of course reliability is going down for chevy and GMC cars.
Just picked up 2021 Silverado LTZ with the 5.3L 8 speed but I got the Z71 which has the 2 speed autotrac transfer case. Going 75 mph on the freeway my RPM's are only 1200. It is like the engine is barely running. So far gas mileage is 21.3. Crazy good. If I keep my foot out of the gas peddle which is hard to do cause this thing wants to scream fast. Also I did not get the active fuel management option so it runs on all 8 cylinders all the time. So far nice truck but only have 1500 miles on it. One thing to note 88% of this truck is made from offshore components. Yes it is assembled in the USA (Fort Wayne IN) but that's it. Crawl underneath one and look at the country of origin stickers and paint on all the components. Canada, Mexico, China everywhere.
It should state on your sales sticker the percentage of parts from different countries. And all full-size trucks are the same these days with parts coming in from other countries.
To me a reliable car/truck is 200k miles or more, but whats even better is 300k miles, then i would be completely satisfied when it finally gives out
million mile Tundras is a very common thing!
Exactly
Or even older Silverados before 2006 can do that easy.
My 04 2500hd had 294k on it before the head gaskets went. Did the head gaskets and kept it moving till the truck got totaled by a dumbass who wasnt paying attention. Can't complain about 300k miles
200K? That's not "reliable," that's just qualifying to even be offered for sale! At modern price points, if a vehicle won't do 300K miles *miinimum*, I'm going to be spending my hard-earned FRN$ elsewhere... Don't get me started on "regular maintenance" costs when idiotic rubber band cam drives on interference engines comes into play!
I've got a 2020 rst - had it for almost a year - 15k miles put on it so far - work vehicle and it has ran flawless to date
I don’t expect any car to give me problems in the first 4 years of ownership. And not till at least 60k miles.
@@maxlu2456 agreed. We have a 2016 Ford Flex and it now has 54k miles on it. Trouble free thus far and I do regular maintenance on it. I would expect another 50k miles before anything begins to deteriorate.
Imagine bragging that your brand new truck hasn't had an issue for a whole 15,000 miles. Definitely a "domestic" truck buyer lol. I'll tell you what, just an example. I was looking at a new Tundra or a new Powerstroke (I've owned 3 Tundras including my current 2006 with 245,000 miles). So, naturally I went to the forums. The Ford guys discussed where to buy the cheapest extended warranty, while the Toyota guys said that an extended warranty was a waste of money. That told me all I needed to know. I'm holding off for the Tundra redesign, or maybe an 07 LBZ Duramax.
@@adampennington8954 I would take what you said to heart, unfortunately you also have men like me where the 60k plus miles do not matter as I rotate new vehicles every year. I appreciate the "domestic truck buyer" remark though. Good luck with your search
@@stevenalbarracin2441 I want to apologize for that remark. It was uncalled for and I was being an ass in the moment.
I have no idea if these trucks are reliable. But I can tell you I could care less what CR says about anything.
I think CR is not oriented to working vehicles, its subscribers are upmarket middle class who buy lots of new stuff. The rankings are based on the responses of its subscribers, who are likely suburban and not contractors or those who work the trucks. But, for what it is, CR is pretty valid.
CR subscribers buy what CR tells them to buy. Group think herd mentality at its worst. So they buy a Toyota and make excuses when it breaks and lie on the survey that nothing has gone wrong. Ultra fan boys. Especially since the only reason ever to buy a Toyota would be the supposed reliability. They are bland boring cars. Are uncomfortable, drive poorly, with underpowered engines and old technology. But say you want something that is an appliance. You can depend on. You buy the Toyota. Then how embarrassing is it to yourself when it is no better than the Chevy you traded on it? People love to lie to themselves. Or to protect an image. “I buy quality”.
Not saying Toyotas are not reliable but they don’t stand out by any means. Take that from a mechanic with 22 years experience.
P.S. every Toyota owner will tell you about their own,or their uncle’s, or their Dad who had 500k on his with only routine maintenance. All fake. All cars have rubber bushings in the suspension, balljoint wear internally, bearings wear, clutches in auto transmissions wear. Sure a good car uses better materials but nothing goes 500k without suspension repairs, auto trans overhaul, motor mounts, sensors, and oil seals/gaskets. Nothing!
@@AlphanumericCharacters Some of those 500,000 vehicles need a lot of normal replacement items, but its still run fine, but they probably leak oil. Definitely the struts are worn out. But some people don't care as long as it gets them where they want to go. Starters will wear out. The car owners that I get a kick out of are those who never replace timing belts and get away with it. Bald tires. Worn brakes. Gambling isn't an attribute of vehicle longevity.
Im all for consumer information and transparency but how does one calculate a reliability score on a 2021 vehicle with such a small window of operation? Given alot of failures require time, use, operational variation - how objective and useful are these scores? Is the polling sample exactly the same for each model? The problem with review sites is that you see 25 people complain about their cars (which is human nature) - but in a forced sample of 10000 owners who all have no complaint but 25 complain - how predicable and relevant is the failure?
It's based on past performance. If it's all new, they won't predict reliability, but if it's just minor changes, they can predict based on past performance. In any case, it's not a guarantee, it's just how most of that particular car will perform.
It’s better to wait for new generation be out for a while but my 99 Sierra still runs strong.
Because they break so much and so fast now, the data comes in really quick.
Class action lawsuit may be an indicator. Look up cylinder deactivation issues. Non lubrication will continue to be a major black eye for years.
I had a two Chevy Silverados. 2017 and 2018 they had 8 speed and 6 speed transmissions. Both had terrible bangs in the transmissions on the down shifts. I got rid of both. I lost thousands. I traded my truck for a 2013 GMC Sierra 2500 hd wit Duramax diesel and Allison transmission. I love this truck. Finally satisfied. GM never helped me nor did they care. The dealership did what they could. Basically don't by gas engines and don't buy anything but an Allison transmission.
LOL I put 270,000 miles on a gas engine chevy 2500. No issues.
you hit the nail on the head, they don't care!!
Those transmission s are not made by allison.
Have a 2019 Silverado Custom 4.3 6 speed with 4WD and zero problems so far. Not towing, just haul camping and photography equipment in the bed. It goes as fast as I need it to go on dirt roads and highways. Only drawback is crappy MPG @ 18 -19 Average MPG but then it’s a brick on wheels, so....
Considering that my company has a Ford fleet program, and 7 out of 20 trucks have all been in the shop for A/C failure, ignition failure, and suspension failure, I have to wonder where Consumer Reports is getting their reliability figures. Also, my 2020 Ford F-350 just got out of the shop after 3 weeks for a transmission recall, in which the entire transmission had to be dropped to replace a planetary gear after just 5000 miles. I have had equal issues from GM in the past, but to be honest, I think its how much money the various companies are handing over to Consumer Reports to get favorable reviews. Its 2021, and I trust absolutely no media other than real reports I find on UA-cam and internet forums.
I take what Consumer Reports said with a grain of salt.
years ago Consumer reports was great, unbiased, couldn't be bought off by a manufacturer etcetera. Today? They go to the highest bidder.
Best way to know if something is reliable or not is to ask the techs and service writers at your dealership. I never trusted these sites, no telling how many manufacturers send employees to write complaints about other brands. The sheer fact that ram is above a Tundra is blasphemy. Also tried saying that the new ram interiors were nicer than the German brands which is another joke in itself
My son is a service tech at our local GMC dealership. He says the new trucks are as reliable as they've ever been. As a matter of fact they are suffering from lack of work in the shop. The later models just aren't having any issues. Most engine issues they do see are from lack of changing the oil. The owners will swear they change it regularly, but when it comes out like mud, its pretty obvious it hasn't. I don't put an ounce of credibility in these "consumer" reports. They are more unreliable than the vehicles they report on.
Gary Mccarver about a year ago, we saw a lot of 8 speeds come in but we follow the TSB and change the fluid to Dexron HP and we don’t see the customers anymore for that issue. The 8 speeds are solid units and can handle a lot of heat and horsepower, they may be clunky with that old fluid but we haven’t yet seen one come in that needed to be replaced. We replace more 6L80’s than anything, especially if the fluid wasn’t changed before 50k miles. The engines that need to be rebuilt or replaced are obvious the oil wasn’t changed.
I understand that there was a period of time when the 2019s were being run down the line, the transmissions were recieving the wrong transmission fluid and that was the sole reason for shuddering transmissions. A simple flush and refilling with the intended fluid, the problem forever went away.
I had a 2016 GMC Canyon that I crisscrossed the country towing a 4,500lb RV. With over 60,000 miles on it I never had to lay a screwdriver on it. It worked flawlessly. I recently traded it on a 2020 Silverado RST 5.3. Likewise, it has performed flawlessly, I guess time will tell.
ubeuonly1...Actually only ignorant people make uniformed comments like yours. Nuff said.
ubeuonly 1 I get to set in quite a few.... daily... The ram limited interiors are nice... but to say they’re nicer than luxury cars is a JOKE! No luxury car owner now turned ram truck owner is saying the interior is nicer than luxury vehicles... that in itself shows the paid loyalty these “consumer reports” have
My 2016 Tahoe... 5.3 V8 with the 6 speed trans DIED at 100,000 miles... I drive it soft, and change the fluid every 30k miles. I don't tow much either. My transmission mechanic told me the new transmissions just suck! I had a 2003 Chevy Tahoe.. that baby went 220,000 miles before trans died. Fluid changed every 30k with synthetic too!
I'm in the process of replacing the frame on my GMC Z71 Crewman. Rusted in half. Literally last Gm vehicle I buy.
Damn that sucks!
what year?
Year please
It is a 2005 with 83,000 miles. New frame is undercoated and sitting on my snowmobile trailer.
@@cliffvanoverbeke3844 Here I thought Toyota was the the one with frame rot.
I still shocked GM doesn’t e-coat their frame yet.
I have a 2006 Tundra with 150K miles that's had 2 brake jobs, but still has original rotors. I replaced the belt's including timing, hoses, and water pump last year. Have used Mobile 1 with Purolater filters since new. It has never broke down on me for any reason. I wouldn't be afraid to get in it and drive across the county on a moments notice.
CR has hated GM products from day one. I wouldn't trust a word they say!
Or GM has been terrible at making vehicles ever since they went bankrupt
And I own a 2018 Silverado with cheap Chinese plastic parts warped, braking, and falling off the darn thing. Console lights burning out, overhead console falling, TMPS sensors failing within 5 weeks of replacement, and of course the loudest leaf springs made in the 60 years. GM is making sorry shoddy trucks while posting record profits. Consumers are like lemmings.
Yeah that's right, don't believe your lying eyes
So what GM vehicle do you own?🤣🤣🤣
I think it's a mix of GM being junk and bias from consumer reports. The Ram 3500 was listed as the least reliable truck but the 2500 was in the top 3 for the most reliable trucks for the same model year. The differences between the trucks are minimal, and if anything, the 3500 should be more reliable because of the better transmission. Makes no sense.
Looking at my 2005 Tahoe with 400k. It's sad how the reliability has dropped so much.
It’s actually much better now. The internet magnifies problems of the 1/100th of 1 percent of people that have problems.
Been very happy with mine, 2019 Sierra Denali. I have 29k and so far no issues at all. I have had a few recalls. So far it’s been much better than the 2016 F150 ecoboost I had before.
You are one of the few
Not really.....plenty on the forums and Facebook groups are satisfied.
Let me know when you are 290k and still happy. Toyota 4 life
Sure lol. My 2007 Sierra diesel that I use for towing has 323,000 on it. Engine and driveline original. Still very happy.....
@@coryw.9086 XD
I've got an 03 Silverado and have never had any problems - BUT when I bought another truck in 2019.... it was a Toyota.
The Zebra Corner skits about Chevys "awards" are hilarious, and accurate
2018 Chevy Colorado Z71 with over 50k. Only issue I had was a transmission shutter that came down to humidity and the wrong factory transmission fluid. Dealership changed it out and no more shutter. Nice solid mid-size truck.
Same issue, mild shudder at highway speed, fluid flush and never had another issue. 3.6 engine just hit 46k
@@bcrebel86 I don't really believe these consumer reports. Seems they have some sort of agenda.
I bought a new ram and it was nothing but problems. I had to trade it in. I went back to my old 96 chevy.
And I had a 2015 Ram with no problems. Now I have a Silverado with parts literally falling off of it.
@@davidporter7051 I think the 2010 to 2018 rams were pretty good. Mine was the newest style that started in 2019
@@davidporter7051 What year Silverado?
@@Bondovw 2018.
@@Bondovw was it a 2019 1500 classic?
I have a 2018 GM Chevy Silverado LT with a 5.3 L that I bought back in July 2018 New. Today i have 50,000 miles on it and have never had a single issue ever with the vehicle. One thing I don’t care for is the active fuel management, this is why I never use sixth gear, even on the freeway. it revs at 2300k on the freeway with out an issue, & I only loose about 1 mpg…..not bad Considering it’s always in V-8 mode…. the way a v8 is meant to be.
I have a fleet of 2019 Chevy Silverado 1500's fuel pump and or control module problems on ALL OF THEM. under warranty around 15,000 miles
Thats odd, Im a GM tech and I have maybe done one fuel pump on a new model 1500. Done a few fuel pump control modules though.
@@conkilla187 He doesn't say that he fuels all of them at a shitty gas pump with water/sand in it.
I worked on gm and ford trucks gm problems all the time and people loved them ford one thing went wrong the truck was nothing but trouble never listen to owners look at the facts
Fleet trucks with many idling hours?... That would explain that.
I have 2015 5.3 with 89000 miles with not a nickels worth of problems , and i pull my 34ft camper all over the place so im extremely happy here!!!!!
Consumer reports is the same publication that gave the chevy prizm a terrible rating and the Toyota carolla the best rating. In the same year. AND THEY ARE THE SAME CAR.
Pontiac vibe = toyota matrix... tomato, tuhmahto...
Yes, they also rated the 2019 Tacoma as poor reliability because of a transmission shift problem that was fixed back in 2016 with a simple software update.
Like many of you know, ALL vehicle manufactures have had some issues at some point with their vehicles. EVERY manufacturer posts recalls and yes some are serious but this applies to all car manufacturers. I have purchased 6 straight Silverado 1500 trucks (all 8 Cyl) and I only had one issue with an A/C hose leak that was quickly replaced by the dealership at their cost.
Don't be afraid to buy GM/Chevy products, remember there is nothing more important than properly maintaining your vehicle and taking action when you do suspect an issue. A good ownership experience begins with buying the right vehicle for the intended use. IF you plan to tow, then make sure that you purchase the right truck, IF you plan to do some off-roading be sure to purchase the right truck, it's pretty simple but everyone has their opinions and it always seems to come down to brand loyalty.
To hell with it, I'm gonna design and build my own damn truck.
Good luck. The government will red tape you out of business. There's a reason you don't see smaller brands built to last.
Probably look like the Homer Simpson design version of a truck 🤣
Just put winter treads on your car. It beefs it up.
I take CR with a shaker of salt. But from what I have seen lately, the GM trucks have been having a few serious issues, mainly with the fuel management system and lifters failing.
Sold consumer electronics back in the day and CR recommended Fischer VCR highly and they were complete trash. Same for some refrigerators at the time.
Generally speaking uneducated people making observations. And the ones who speak are the ones with problems
I bought a 2017 Silverado 5.3 with a 6 speed trans. Had it three years and traded it in because of transmission issues. Bought a 2020 Silverado with a 3.0l duramax diesel and I put 4400 miles on it and the transmission went out. GM warrantied it out but now it always runs hot. During the summer the average temp would be 207-220. Everything else works as advertised just always worried about the transmission leaving me and my family stranded. Die hard GM fan but now find myself looking at the ram trucks
Try Ford (I'm an Ex-GM fan, ex-Chrysler loyal buyer once Fiat took over.)
If you wasted a tranny in 4k miles you should probably look in the mirror
Ford is a better option, ram is owned by stellantis and quality is not very good.
Yep it sure is. My 2021 has been in the shop 3 times already. Dealership call me this morning and told me the lifters need to be replaced. I am done with this Silverado and planning to order a Toyota Tundra.
Isn't there MAJOR issues with those lifters?
@@vettle1 I think so John I just traded mine in for a 2019 tundra. The truck is brand new and the lifters are bad. I don’t need headaches
I got friends ,2 w the 2014 and 1 with a 2018 and all 3 have had there trans replaced....I bought a TRDoffroad limited 😊
I love my 2005 TRD, I plan to drive it for many years, runs like new 326000 kms and still going strong 💪🏼
I have had nothing but horror with every GM vehicle I have ever made the mistake of buying. One chevy truck engine blew up on the way home from being repaired at the dealership. On the other hand currently driving 2010 f150, over 100,000 miles, not had a single problem.
sounds like you don't take care of your stuff, I'm on my 11th new Chevy truck, nothing major.
@laker nation @MR.GLENN LANDSCAPES yeah... what laker nation said. If you take care of it, routine oil changes and maintenance, it will be OK. 2005 Chevy Colorado and it has 154,000 and is doing fine. I'll be buying a '23 Colorado when they're released. And keeping the older one for my kids to drive and learn on because it's still on great condition.
@@lakernation4725 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@princesslayna5527 don't think your something you're not
A week ago I bought the 2021 Silverado Lt 5.3 8 speed and 2 days later at the 236 mile mark the truck would not go into gear. Every gear was neutral and my wife kids and my self where stranded all check engine light came on. Dealer sent out a tow and we got a loaner. It’s still in the shop and no updates. I think it electrical not sure at this point. I just want my truck back and working!!! Anyone have this issue happen to them?
How did this turn out any update?
My dads 2017 Silverado z71 4x4 , had a oil leak. This was caused by a warped oil pan from the factory. Took it to them six times. They finally called the place where they installed the motor. They had it on record, that they installed a warped oil pan. They gave him a a hundred and thirty thousand mile warranty.
on record that they installed a bad part, that is the dumbest shit I've ever read, take care of your stuff.
08 sierra 220k. Runs like new. Change oil 7k miles. Driving it right now
Work. 4.8 tows,hauls,......
Just now seeing this video but we had a 2018 Silverado, 5.3L and we had issues before and after the brake recall as well as a new transmission at 23k miles. When you’d pull the gear lever from park to drive, it would lunge forward as if already in second gear and would gradually start backing the brakes off even when fully stomped down. It was great fun lol
Sounds like a wild ride!
Tundra behind a RAM on reliability? Something fishy there
I’ve flipped through the various reports on CR and, in some reports, Ram does well. In others they don’t. Something seems a bit odd to me overall.
When a Ram can get a million miles like the reliable Tundra i will believe it. Never seen a Ram with a million miles.
@@highplainsdrifter9849 Ahh...the unicorn million mile Tundra that everybody references...🙄
Not surprising if you're an actual owner, plus they do lop the HDs in there too. A well-taken care of Cummins Ram routinely goes north of 500k miles.
@@hellkitty1014 good point on HD. This is just 1500 though. I’ll say this, the move to the ZF transmission was the BEST decision they have ever done. I’d say that right there is why I keep seeing Ram place higher in reliability surveys.
No significant probs to report after a year with 2020 RST 5.3L 8-speed 4WD except the AGM battery had to be replaced. By the way, when the battery goes with new trucks even the transmission gets wacky.
The bad CR report has me a little worried but we see here the models and all have so many combinations that it’s hard to say where the risky factors are.
The 6.2 L sells to macho guys but it runs on premium fuel which, last I checked, was $0.80 more a gallon. They lowered the price on the diesel for 2021 making it affordable.
The head unit (or center stack display) is a little buggy sometimes, such as when losing the SiriusXM signal for no reason.
I asked them to refill the NITROGEN for the tires (which is touted as valuable feature) but spying on the mechanic I saw he used plain air.
I'm here to confirm reliability issues with the 2021 Silverado.. Mine is in service right now with 3300 miles and needs new lifters.. My brother-in-law has a 2021 also, and his has been in service 3 times under 5000 miles. We both have RST trim with the 5.3 and 8 speed. I bought mine in FL he bought his in PA.
Consumer reports changed the Toyota Camry from best buy to do not buy back when they had accelerator problems. I have a hard time trusting them.
Truth is, we don't really know what's reliable until 10 years later.
True dat
Those camry's have turned out to great cars. I had one for almost 5 years and only dealt with a loose windshield wiper and a window actuator that went out under warranty.
@@wsmcook 1 car is pretty antidotal though. You can buy a lemon in any make/model, but then the same make/model elsewhere could go for 200k miles.
I’m so torn … I’ve been wanting a new Silverado for ages and I love these and I’m ready to pick one up and I keep seeing complaints about them “most unreliable”
Afm/dfm causes issues with the motor and 8 speed transmission isn’t good either
Don't. Get a toyota tundra
@@Unckickz I was eyeing those but the fuel mileage sucks. At least for the outgoing models. That was a deal breaker.
@@35057 who buys a truck for gas mileage? Trucks aren't for economy gas savers lol. I'd just get the tundra. You'll be amazed. There's a reason why they say toyotas reliability is "legendary" and "bulletproof". My 07 sequoia still running fine original everything. Just routine preventable maintenance. Belts water pumps brakes suspension. That's it.
@@Unckickz I know Toyota is reliable but why flush away thousands of dollars a year for no reason besides brand loyalty, and when you don’t have to spend that much. There are other trucks out there that are also reliable and will keep money in your pocket. I had a truck a couple years ago that was guzzling 43 gallons of fuel a week. That was $400/mo I could have put toward something else. Better fuel economy reduces cost of ownership..