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  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  4 роки тому +128

    Extra footage at: ua-cam.com/video/HuIrUeODtVQ/v-deo.html
    Patreon: www.patreon.com/numberphile

    • @deepakkpradhan
      @deepakkpradhan 4 роки тому +5

      Sadly, sharadchandra shankar shrikhande one of the co-authors of the Euler's spoiler paper passed away recently.

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 4 роки тому +1

      deepak pradhan Wow, that's sad.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 роки тому

      Wait i thought BOTH diagonals had to be different but for the 3x3 you have one diagonal as A A A ..at 8:20 isnt that wrong?

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 роки тому

      Also at 8:35 you have the same number in the diagonal...that's inconsistent too..cant have all 3s or all 1s..should be one of each..

    • @RedwoodRhiadra
      @RedwoodRhiadra 4 роки тому +2

      @@leif1075 He explicitly says the diagonal restriction is only for the 4x4 cards puzzle and not for the general Latin Squares puzzle.

  • @massimookissed1023
    @massimookissed1023 4 роки тому +2643

    Moral of story:
    _Even when Euler's wrong, he _*_still_*_ gets things named after him._
    (That's gotta make Matt Parker feel better.)

    • @electromika
      @electromika 4 роки тому +152

      What a Parker naming system.

    • @yourguard4
      @yourguard4 4 роки тому +28

      Even things, which doesnt exists, need a name, so that everyone knows, what you are talking about :P

    • @rcb3921
      @rcb3921 4 роки тому +38

      The Euler Square O.O I can't believe that went over my head.

    • @sumdumbmick
      @sumdumbmick 4 роки тому +3

      nah, the moral of the story is that people who name discoveries after people are idiots.

    • @fredg8328
      @fredg8328 4 роки тому +14

      @@sumdumbmick Because people don't deserve being recognized for their work ?

  • @K-o-R
    @K-o-R 4 роки тому +727

    10:52 No-one brute-forces a problem like Gaston!

    • @otakuribo
      @otakuribo 4 роки тому +129

      When he was a lad he did 4 dozen trials every morning to help with the proof,
      And now that he's grown he does 5 dozen trials on his quest for mathematical truuuth!! 💪

    • @BlokenArrow
      @BlokenArrow 4 роки тому +2

      🤓

    • @MichaelJamesActually
      @MichaelJamesActually 4 роки тому +8

      K.o.R take my upvote

    • @talonbraxton8394
      @talonbraxton8394 3 роки тому +3

      K.o.R are you a Ben and hollys little kingdom fan?

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 3 роки тому +4

      Literally egghead Gaston.

  • @jesusthroughmary
    @jesusthroughmary 4 роки тому +362

    4:00 "We don't actually need to match up the diagonals."
    4:30 *diagonals match up anyway*
    The Anti-Parker Square

    • @PanduPoluan
      @PanduPoluan 2 роки тому +24

      So we have Parker (dud), Non-Parker (works), and Anti-Parker (works even in ways not required by original requirements).

    • @teiermyler4926
      @teiermyler4926 2 роки тому +4

      @@PanduPoluan Gold

    • @mati.benapezo
      @mati.benapezo Рік тому +3

      @@PanduPoluan Is there the Anti Non-Parker?

    • @aidentoman-sager5527
      @aidentoman-sager5527 Рік тому +4

      @@mati.benapezo so it fails even in ways not required? that's just a regular Parker

  • @skorp5677
    @skorp5677 4 роки тому +557

    In fact so special that Euler got involved xD
    We should award puzzles with the 'Euler tried' award

    • @XHappyKillerX
      @XHappyKillerX 4 роки тому +9

      The Parkeuler

    • @XHappyKillerX
      @XHappyKillerX 4 роки тому +22

      Now that I think about it, I just noticed how the title "Euler Squares" must have been a deliberate reference to the Parker Square, nice!

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 4 роки тому

      Yeah, this should be a thing. xD

    • @salerio61
      @salerio61 4 роки тому +8

      There's still loads of awards going for a similar idea of "Erdos tried" puzzles. You even get the choice of accepting the monetary award or a cheque signed by Erdos to frame in your study

    • @metleon
      @metleon 4 роки тому +2

      Instead of 'college try' we should change it to 'Euler try'.

  • @GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
    @GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser 4 роки тому +739

    Title: Euler
    Thumbnail: James Grime
    Me: visible excitement

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 4 роки тому +13

      Euler didn't respond to their calls :(

    • @sam08g16
      @sam08g16 4 роки тому +10

      Hotel: Trivago

    • @darkphoenix0808
      @darkphoenix0808 4 роки тому +4

      Is that the speaker's name? I honestly don't know

    • @squidly1369
      @squidly1369 3 роки тому +3

      @@darkphoenix0808 yes it is he is the best out here I guess I mean his accent presence is awesome 😎🔥

    • @Triantalex
      @Triantalex 6 місяців тому

      ??

  • @rahulujjal8245
    @rahulujjal8245 4 роки тому +302

    The youngest of the ‘Euler’s Spoilers’ is no more. He was 103. Indian mathematical genius, Sharadchandra Shankar Shrikhande, who along with his mentor late RC Bose and their colleague late ET Parker disproved way back in 1959 an 18th century mathematical conjecture, passed away at Vijaywada on April 21, bringing curtains to a glorious chapter from the world of statistics and mathematics.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 4 роки тому +8

      indian mathematicians are amazing... if anyone has a nice long documentary with a bunch of indian mathematicians, please link!

    • @amritkumar7488
      @amritkumar7488 4 роки тому +7

      @@alveolate there is a documentary on SC Shrikhande tho. I saw it at a college. I don't recall the name. Try googling.

    • @GerSHAK
      @GerSHAK 4 роки тому +1

      +

    • @aquibalamLUMOS
      @aquibalamLUMOS 4 роки тому +1

      Respect

  • @drewnardolillo9670
    @drewnardolillo9670 4 роки тому +143

    James Grime: Oiler Spoilers
    Me, an intellectual: Euler Speulers

    • @ianmoore5502
      @ianmoore5502 4 роки тому +6

      I cannot stop giggling. Thank you.

  • @psyboyo
    @psyboyo 3 роки тому +9

    14:02 "Never arrange a ping-pong tournament with six team members" -- I first understood "with sixteen members", I went crazy! WTF?!? And then I turn on the subtitles.

  • @ajharris3486
    @ajharris3486 4 роки тому +161

    This was one of the best Numberphiles in a while for me! James really knows how to give information succinctly and interestingly. Bravo, chaps!

  • @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414
    @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 4 роки тому +500

    5:45 I'm mostly here for the twerking 4

  • @mattiacapuano2022
    @mattiacapuano2022 4 роки тому +628

    The ping pong letters and numbers are adorable

  • @methethpropbut8519
    @methethpropbut8519 4 роки тому +153

    3:33 I realise not only the rows columns and diagonals, but the four 2×2 sub-squares also have one of each rank and suit!

    • @inigo8740
      @inigo8740 4 роки тому +28

      That makes it even more like a sudoku! Hooray!

    • @andersyu4464
      @andersyu4464 4 роки тому +32

      also the middle 2x2 square

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 4 роки тому

      Which surly means that the "difficult" 6 by 6 example surly could be solved by doing the sub 3x3 sub squares no?

    • @gargravarr2
      @gargravarr2 4 роки тому +28

      It follows by definition, since the other 3 squares of the sub-square are on the row, column and diagonal of the corner square.

    • @gabor6259
      @gabor6259 4 роки тому +7

      Also the 4 corners.

  • @cerwe8861
    @cerwe8861 4 роки тому +384

    James talks about something from Euler, can there be something better?

    • @cerwe8861
      @cerwe8861 4 роки тому +4

      @Carey Hunt what?

    • @Pro_Triforcer
      @Pro_Triforcer 4 роки тому +9

      You mean there's a square named after some other mathematician? Sounds almost exciting, but not quite

    • @kasajizo8963
      @kasajizo8963 4 роки тому +14

      Yes, there is something better. Matt Parker talking about squares.

    • @cerwe8861
      @cerwe8861 4 роки тому +4

      @@kasajizo8963 that's also cool, but like a Parker Square not perfect xD

    • @cerwe8861
      @cerwe8861 4 роки тому +6

      @Carey Hunt Thanks random guy from the Internet

  • @WaterCarrier07
    @WaterCarrier07 3 роки тому +12

    I always love when different pronunciations clash like one is correcting the other straight away... “ohh it’s a Sudoku” ... “yes a sudoku”

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 Рік тому +1

      and each time the word " sudoku " is repeated more emphasis can be placed upon that work in the sentence until it can become a very happy shouting match !

  • @sean3533
    @sean3533 4 роки тому +92

    Squares in order of importance
    1. Parker Square
    2. Euler Square
    3. The Square

  • @rensvanampting234
    @rensvanampting234 4 роки тому +14

    I love how team member "4" is animated at 5:46

  • @marshmelows
    @marshmelows 4 роки тому +51

    That brown paper on Graham's number signed by the very own Ron Graham is just amazing! 0:25

  • @DrKaii
    @DrKaii 4 роки тому +61

    3:14 you think James is sped up here, but actually this is his normal speed, the rest of the video is slowed down

  • @tombomb_com555
    @tombomb_com555 4 роки тому +40

    It would have been nice to talk about the link between this and magic squares: say instead of AKQJ and 1234 we used two sets of 0123, and made them into the same arrangement, we could then read off each number as a two-digit number in base 4, then those would be a valid magic square (excluding diagonals) or we could add 1 to every number and it would still work. For a 3x3 example (since I know that one well), [21,00,12;02,11,20;10,22,02] (excuse the formatting) becomes [7,0,5;2,4,6;3,8,1] or [8,1,6;3,5,7;4,9,2] which is a magic square. This logic works for all sizes too.

    • @HansLemurson
      @HansLemurson 4 роки тому

      Wait, so does that mean there are no 6x6 magic squares?

    • @khaitomretro
      @khaitomretro 4 роки тому +2

      @@HansLemurson No. The assertion is wrong. There are 6x6 magic squares but no 6x6 magic squares that take that form. You always end up with a square that repeats one of the base 6 digits in the rows.

    • @khaitomretro
      @khaitomretro 4 роки тому +1

      If you can construct a double Latin square then you can use that to create a magic square. Euler's methods for creating double Latin squares can be used to create forms of magic square but won't find all of them, just a subset.

  • @jessicawang6558
    @jessicawang6558 4 роки тому +36

    After so many years I still get a smile when I see James Grime

  • @user-mc4zu9qt8u
    @user-mc4zu9qt8u 4 роки тому +67

    When he described the puzzle, I paused it, got some paper and a pen, and figured it out. And I solved it, hooray! It really is like doing double sudoku, lol. Cheers for the interesting video and fun little puzzle, Numberphile :)

    • @TheZotmeister
      @TheZotmeister 4 роки тому

      Check out the 2016 United States Puzzle Championship :)

    • @helenanevrayeva
      @helenanevrayeva 4 роки тому

      Haha, I was so intrigued so I pulled out a stack of cards for this 😁 I did AKDB first, then it was easy to rearrange for ♠️♥️♦️♣️. Enjoyed it thoroughly!

  • @balinttoth9287
    @balinttoth9287 4 роки тому +20

    "it's so difficult Euler got involved"

  • @haricashravi3900
    @haricashravi3900 4 роки тому +40

    This video is like a tribute to SS Shrikhande who was part of the "Euler's Spoilers" - a bunch of three people at UNC-CH who disproved Euler's generalisation of this problem - who sadly passed away on the day of the release of this video.

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  4 роки тому +25

      Amazing coincidence.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 4 роки тому +10

      @@numberphile your video --killed him-- satisfied his lifelong ambition of getting obliquely referenced in a numberphile video.

    • @Alex-xk6sx
      @Alex-xk6sx 3 роки тому +2

      He passed away on April 21, 2020 (at age 102 at that!), not on the day this video was released, though the dates are truly close to each other 😉 May he rest in peace.

    • @haricashravi3900
      @haricashravi3900 3 роки тому

      @@Alex-xk6sx that's weird because I clearly remember seeing the news where SSS's death was reported and a few hours later this video released... Could it be possible they had reuploaded/changed the video later?

    • @Alex-xk6sx
      @Alex-xk6sx 3 роки тому

      @@haricashravi3900 Maybe? Waiting for Numberphile to chime in.

  • @Freytana
    @Freytana 4 роки тому +4

    Grime's passion is always very enjoyable to listen to and watch

  • @mjswart73
    @mjswart73 4 роки тому +26

    This lockdown really hasn't cramped the style of the animator. Full marks. I love it.

  • @AbiGail-ok7fc
    @AbiGail-ok7fc 4 роки тому +4

    Back in high school (late '70s, early '80s), our math teacher had a large, handmade, quilt hanging from one of the walls, with a 10 x 10 Euler square as the pattern. Him telling the story behind is was the first time I heard about Euler.

  • @DuCaDo003
    @DuCaDo003 4 роки тому +1

    One of your best videos in quite a while. Really enjoyable. James really knows how to explain things. Thanks!

  • @mathguy7480
    @mathguy7480 4 роки тому +69

    Can we talk about that 4 for a second?

  • @justbetty7334
    @justbetty7334 4 роки тому +36

    I love NumberPhile! I watch it all the time. It's one of the only this getting me through lockdown! 😀

    • @zinniaward8549
      @zinniaward8549 4 роки тому +1

      Mood

    • @esotericVideos
      @esotericVideos 4 роки тому

      I do too! I'm a little concerned that they don't seem to be too socially distanced in their videos though. I don't want any of my Maths friends to get sick.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 4 роки тому +3

      esotericVideos
      I’m sure it was filmed well before the lockdown.

  • @bryanstanley3866
    @bryanstanley3866 4 роки тому +7

    I like the framed brown paper for Graham's number hanging in the background.

  • @ralfoide
    @ralfoide 4 роки тому

    Dr. James Grime is such a joy to listen and watch at. Always with a big smile. We need more enthusiastic people like him :)

  • @adrianfletcher8963
    @adrianfletcher8963 4 роки тому +12

    I love how you never cease to stop making innovative animations

  • @jonopriestley9461
    @jonopriestley9461 4 роки тому +16

    Classic James. What a mad lad. We gotta have Numberphile live-streams some time.

  • @akshatmishra7110
    @akshatmishra7110 4 роки тому +10

    What a coincidence....just when the Indian Mathematician who debunked Euler's Theory passed away!
    P.S. - He died today at the age of 103!
    His name was Shrikhande !

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  4 роки тому +3

      Amazing coincidence!!!

    • @zstanojevic9574
      @zstanojevic9574 4 роки тому +1

      @@numberphile Also, a video tributing Conway's departure is visibly missing..

    • @WatchingMyLifeFlashB
      @WatchingMyLifeFlashB 4 роки тому

      The video showed an Indian Raj Bose as completing it successfully in the 1950's, '54 I believe it was. This Strickhande was he in the '20s that were later disproven until Bose, or was Strickhande later?

  • @Stephen_Lafferty
    @Stephen_Lafferty 4 роки тому +1

    It's great to see James again - I feel like I haven't seen him in a NP video for ages!

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  4 роки тому

      Do you have notifications on for our videos? Bash that bell 🔔

  • @edelcorrallira
    @edelcorrallira 4 роки тому

    Oh man this remind me of playing around with multidimension Karnaugh maps. I love this channel so much, thank you guys for keeping science available for all

  • @vj_henke
    @vj_henke 4 роки тому +3

    11:12 "To be fair, he was a proper mathematician. But he also checked every case." Shaking my head

  • @TheAntibozo
    @TheAntibozo 4 роки тому +3

    James Grime is such a wonderful communicator.

  • @zivush3d
    @zivush3d 4 роки тому

    great that numberphile keeps uploading turring the lockedown. love this video.

  • @Codricmon
    @Codricmon 4 роки тому +2

    That four day tournament was the greatest event of my life - the first game on the second day was just the bomb!

  • @hazimans
    @hazimans 4 роки тому +8

    watching this while currently having in sudoku mood. I suddenly thought of this sudoku variant, 2 sudokus (normal sudoku and wordoku) in one grid following regular rules with the extra rules mention in this video (each cell must have a unique combination of a letter and a number) would be interesting tho (and hard)

  • @rubenleejohnsen2037
    @rubenleejohnsen2037 4 роки тому +25

    I see Euler and James grime in title, i click.

  • @ghost_cipher
    @ghost_cipher 4 роки тому +1

    James got me interested in teaching myself better math skills that have laid dormant for years.....BIG THANKS!!!!

  • @jimdevilbiss9125
    @jimdevilbiss9125 4 роки тому +1

    This was an excellent presentation as all of yours are. Having taught statistics for years I never thought of using this with setting an Experiment thank you.

  • @jodfrut771
    @jodfrut771 4 роки тому +11

    5:40 that four was flapping his privates LOL

  • @prasanttwo281
    @prasanttwo281 4 роки тому +8

    I bet after it was disproven, Euler's viewers started using the term to describe anything that was given a go but had something wrong in it. As in, "Oh look at that square number magic square Matt Parker came up with, it's such an Euler square of a solution!"

  • @MM-cr7dq
    @MM-cr7dq 4 роки тому +1

    What a great story - so many twists - a strange pattern - thanks James

  • @abracadabra8501
    @abracadabra8501 4 роки тому +1

    James grime is so engaging I love it when he’s in the videos

  • @ShuffleboardJerk
    @ShuffleboardJerk 4 роки тому +10

    thanks JAMES

  • @G33v3s
    @G33v3s 4 роки тому +18

    I reckon they should have called them “Speulers”

  • @deadlyore3986
    @deadlyore3986 Рік тому

    I love that you've got the paper from the video with Ron Graham hung up on the wall. RIP

  • @Elitematt74
    @Elitematt74 4 роки тому +1

    This video was a mental rollercoaster ride

  • @RecursiveTriforce
    @RecursiveTriforce 4 роки тому +22

    In my head I'm just singing to the "ABC Song" by Jackson 5:
    A B C pair them with 1 2 3.
    A B C 1 2 3, that's how easy maths can be!

  • @zaphodbeeblebrox5511
    @zaphodbeeblebrox5511 4 роки тому +7

    This reminds me of "The Schoolgirl Problem Puzzle" :
    In a boarding school there are fifteen schoolgirls who always take their daily walks in groups of three.
    How can it be arranged so that each schoolgirl walks in a group with two different companions every day for a week (7 days)?

    • @woodchuk1
      @woodchuk1 4 роки тому

      ZaphoD Beeblebrox Isn’t that an instance of a Steiner Triple system of order 15, where there would be (15*14)/6, or 35 triples?

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 4 роки тому +1

      Let's give Kirkman due credit for this problem.
      Another Numberphile video, perhaps?

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 роки тому

      @@rosiefay7283 sounds like one for Cliff. He loves Euler and stuff about taking walks.

  • @stv3qbhxjnmmqbw835
    @stv3qbhxjnmmqbw835 3 роки тому

    I love this guy. The excitement, the energy, everything

  • @kungfutuber
    @kungfutuber 4 роки тому +1

    Just completed one with each row, column and corner diagonal. It's also nice to see the centre 4 are also one of each, as is each corner, including many 4 place patterns like B1, C1, B4 & C4 for example! :)

  • @avi12
    @avi12 4 роки тому +66

    14:04 Fs in the chat

  • @sudheerthunga2155
    @sudheerthunga2155 4 роки тому +10

    Omg!! James Grime!! (The earliest I've been)

  • @saikat93ify
    @saikat93ify 4 роки тому

    Amazing video ! Thanks for making it ! It infused my enthusiasm of Combinatorics !

  • @johninwaynenewjersey5253
    @johninwaynenewjersey5253 4 роки тому

    Throughout history there have been teachers that, through a combination of their passion and understanding for the subject and the way they present it, make learning easy to digest. James Grime is one of those and I envy the students that have studied under him.

  • @dragonfruitdana
    @dragonfruitdana 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve had a puzzle like this ever since I was a child, with colours and numbers instead of card values and suits. Never knew it was called an Euler square :)

  • @emoluv54865
    @emoluv54865 4 роки тому +19

    I am a simple man ,I see James. I suddenly love math... Until the video ends.

  • @larissaketterer8653
    @larissaketterer8653 3 роки тому

    thank you so much James Grime, finally I´ve understood it!

  • @DrKaii
    @DrKaii 4 роки тому

    00:02 James' puzzles always get me going

  • @tuftman6092
    @tuftman6092 4 роки тому +11

    I got really into these a couple of years ago. and I found another type of puzzle that is also cool. It's basically the same except instead of an n by n grid with 1 of n items in each row and column you have a 2n by 2n grid with exactly 2 of each item in each row and column. I was trying to figure out how many different possibilities there are, but it's harder to compute than the euler squares.

  • @TrappedinaBrain
    @TrappedinaBrain 4 роки тому +2

    I'd be interested in a way of judging "how wrong" a square is, and then seeing how many 6 squares exist that are the "least wrong"

  • @CdFMasterVideo
    @CdFMasterVideo 4 роки тому +1

    I feel like those dancing letters and numbers are gonne stay stuck in my mind for quite a long time. I'm not sure whether I should complain about it.

  • @Shlungoidwungus
    @Shlungoidwungus 4 роки тому +2

    It looks like you can handle this puzzle pretty easily by solving just for suits and just for types, making sure your solutions for both are not isomorphic to one another, then combining them into one grid.
    Edit: Just watched a bit later where he pretty much explicitly mentions that. My brain is on airplane mode.

  • @LaGuerre19
    @LaGuerre19 4 роки тому +7

    James 👏 Grime 👏 makes 👏 my 👏 day 👏

  • @robinsparrow1618
    @robinsparrow1618 4 роки тому +22

    14:52 wait, *that* adam savage? or just someone coincidentally named adam savage?

    • @HanabiraKage
      @HanabiraKage 4 роки тому +11

      Adam Savage is a massive fan of Numberphile, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the actual guy himself.

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 4 роки тому +1

      Yes.

    • @timothymckane6362
      @timothymckane6362 4 роки тому +3

      "I reject your identity, and substitute my own."

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, the dude díd just recently do a video with Matt Parker.

    • @michaelmatter1222
      @michaelmatter1222 4 роки тому +1

      Some people say it's him, I say it's a Myth :D

  • @OW0974
    @OW0974 2 роки тому

    The starter puzzle was something I randomly thought of on a bored Saturday and I couldn't find a single solution, thanks for solving it for me

  • @eyadfromthesky
    @eyadfromthesky 4 роки тому

    Dr. Grime videos are probably the easiest to follow. I wish my school had professors like him

  • @XHappyKillerX
    @XHappyKillerX 4 роки тому +3

    What a ride.

  • @jedagelijksebraintraining
    @jedagelijksebraintraining 4 роки тому +9

    14:04 you better don't want a tournement with 12 members (A, B, C, D, E, F, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), not 16.

    • @abhijiths5237
      @abhijiths5237 4 роки тому +6

      I think he said 6 team members not 16

    • @jedagelijksebraintraining
      @jedagelijksebraintraining 4 роки тому +2

      @@abhijiths5237 6 players do work because that is 3x3.
      Sorry if i missheard.

    • @andersbendsen5931
      @andersbendsen5931 4 роки тому

      @@jedagelijksebraintraining 3 by 3 is nine. What they said was 6 by 6 won't work.

    • @brianmarco5873
      @brianmarco5873 4 роки тому +1

      @Je dagelijkse braintraining *** wiskunde-puzzels 6 team members with 2 teams make 12. As opposed to 6 player with 2 teams of 3 team members. The ping pong tournament described had 2 teams. I also misheard it as 16 though.

    • @howardchan3244
      @howardchan3244 4 роки тому

      @@abhijiths5237 That's make sense. I am confused for a minute thinking I do not understand the problem.

  • @VyTran-tk8jq
    @VyTran-tk8jq 4 роки тому

    James is back!

  • @ronniesims547
    @ronniesims547 2 роки тому +2

    The four corners also constitute a four card set, as do the central four cards and each four card quadrant, plus others. If you were given all these conditions to meet at the start, it would seem more difficult to solve, but actually makes it easier.

  • @menpee
    @menpee 4 роки тому +4

    Ping-pong player B did literally nothing and still won the tournament. Impressive.

  • @mattiviljanen8109
    @mattiviljanen8109 4 роки тому +3

    12:45 I would love to have that thing hanging on my wall! Upvote for new merch!

  • @nightworg
    @nightworg 4 роки тому

    What an amazing story. Loved it.

  • @YG-ub4dk
    @YG-ub4dk 4 роки тому +1

    A James Grime video I haven't seen? Oh right it was posted only minutes ago!

  • @esotericVideos
    @esotericVideos 4 роки тому +4

    It's charming that James has a framed bit of numberphile paper in his house.

    • @renerpho
      @renerpho 4 роки тому +1

      And not just any framed bit, but the paper from one of Numberphile's most iconic videos, signed by Ronald Graham himself. :-)

    • @98081
      @98081 4 роки тому +1

      I think that's Brady's house.

  • @char7114
    @char7114 4 роки тому +20

    I know probably no one really cares, but I solved it all on my own and I'm really proud.

  • @pjaj43
    @pjaj43 4 роки тому +1

    See the article by Martin Gardener in November 1959 edition of Scientific American where he announced the discovery. Is there any connection to Parker Squares, as E T Parker was the mathematician who used a computer in 1959 to construct the first 10X10 counterexample to Euler's conjecture. Parker worked with Bose, and Shrikhande.

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat 4 роки тому

    In 2012, this channel uploaded a video about a "special magic square" that remains magic after rotation or reflection. But this video provides the explanation. It is really two orthogonal 4x4 Latin squares with the digits 1, 2, 5, and 8: one for the tens place and one for the units place. These digits rotate or reflect to give 1, 5, 2, and 8, respectively, so the Latin square property still holds. So the total of every row, column, and diagonal must be 1 + 2 + 5 + 8 = 16 for both the unit and tens digits, giving a total 160 + 16 = 176, invariant under reflection or rotation by 180 degrees.

  • @LinkAranGalacticHero
    @LinkAranGalacticHero 4 роки тому +3

    7:12
    Number 2 in third place
    *logic*: wait, that's illegal!

    • @waldokind
      @waldokind 4 роки тому

      Waltlab Channel Zero based?

  • @pasunurusaivineeth3739
    @pasunurusaivineeth3739 4 роки тому +6

    8:44 THE CUNNING SMILE

    • @GuyNamedSean
      @GuyNamedSean 4 роки тому

      Like a giddy toddler that just pulled a fast one on his dad. I'll never stop loving James's cheeky enthusiasm for maths problems.

  • @nickroh.6088
    @nickroh.6088 3 роки тому +1

    4:25 I like how he managed to get the diagonals anyway even though he didn't need to

  • @cleliaalbano2184
    @cleliaalbano2184 4 роки тому

    This video is delightful!! 💓

  • @Arthur0000100
    @Arthur0000100 4 роки тому +9

    But WHY doesn't 6x6 work??

    • @renerpho
      @renerpho 4 роки тому +4

      An example of the strong law of small numbers (2 and 6 are pretty small). They sometimes do weird things that aren't representative of the general behaviour.

    • @jacobnugent6895
      @jacobnugent6895 4 роки тому +1

      @Nhật Nam Trần I agree. why only six? I feel like if six doesn't work, then it should manifest itself again at some point on the number line, causing some multiple of 6 to not work either.

  • @Adomas_B
    @Adomas_B 4 роки тому +5

    But can it be done in 3d?
    I'll try something if I even manage to understand the proof.
    Edit: ok this is more complicated than i thought

    • @mementomori7160
      @mementomori7160 4 роки тому +2

      I thought about the same thing, let's try it and make our own theorems

    • @user-be8ep2zd6r
      @user-be8ep2zd6r 4 роки тому

      for 3d grid n x n x n, do you still use these pairs { (A_1 ... A_n) x (B_1 ... B_n) } only ?

    • @Adomas_B
      @Adomas_B 4 роки тому

      @@user-be8ep2zd6r maybe in 2 dimensions there's 2 parameters, A 1, so in 3 there could be 3, like A a 1

    • @Adomas_B
      @Adomas_B 4 роки тому

      @@mementomori7160 are you in University? If not l, your chances of discovering something new is basically 0%

  • @fpereira77
    @fpereira77 3 роки тому

    Nothing restores the balance of the universe like a Numberphile video featuring Dr James Grime.

  • @ciangrant3042
    @ciangrant3042 4 роки тому

    Working this out with the ABCD1234 notation and then watching James fill out the exact same square i had written down was very satisfying

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 4 роки тому +3

    3:15 - dr James turned into Mickey Mouse on helium xD

  • @OlafDoschke
    @OlafDoschke 4 роки тому +2

    Matt Parker rehabilitated.

  • @SgtSupaman
    @SgtSupaman 4 роки тому +1

    Now I'm wondering about adding a third dimension to it. You talked about bigger and bigger squares, but what about adding a 3rd component? Perhaps we can make cubes where an element can't share a trait with another element in either rows of the same layer or in its column.
    After having tried it out with a 3x3x3, it basically seems to be stacks of different solutions for the square version. The additional trait didn't appear to add much of interest, though perhaps that might change with larger cubes. I guess a 4x4x4 could at least include the diagonal rule to make it more challenging (especially since, instead of just 2 diagonal lines, a cube has 22).

  • @mattiviljanen8109
    @mattiviljanen8109 4 роки тому

    Now that was a rollercoaster!

  • @chairwood
    @chairwood 4 роки тому +4

    I dont like that droopy bit on the 4 :(

  • @HainPepito
    @HainPepito 4 роки тому +14

    8:29 The diagonals don’t match, am I missing something?

    • @HainPepito
      @HainPepito 4 роки тому +2

      We got 3A’s from top left to bottom right and 3 3’s from top right to bottom left which can’t be done.

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  4 роки тому +41

      Dr G says in the video that diagonals don't need to meet the criteria - we just did that for the opening examples for extra fun.

    • @yerwol
      @yerwol 4 роки тому +13

      They're not considering the diagonals at that point. (at 4:00 "Diagonals is fun for a puzzle, but it's not what we're going to do for the maths")
      edit: I believe Numberphile got in there between me starting to watch the video and me posting that comment!

    • @HainPepito
      @HainPepito 4 роки тому +3

      Numberphile I see, thank you! :)

    • @JonathonV
      @JonathonV 4 роки тому

      Pepito It’s actually not possible to include the diagonals in a 3x3 square. Suppose you start with ABC in the top row. Now on to the second row: ‘A’ can’t be in the first column because there’s already an A in the first column, and it can’t be in the second column because of the diagonal, so it has to be in the third column, leaving only BCA or CBA for the second row. But BCA can’t work because of the C’s in the diagonal, and CBA can’t work because of B in the second column. So as soon as you require diagonals to be different, 3x3 squares don’t work anymore.

  • @ChrisLuigiTails
    @ChrisLuigiTails 4 роки тому +1

    The Graham number explanation framed in the background... nice