Pastor Criticized For Saying Christians Can Smoke!

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  • @JoyLady-1966
    @JoyLady-1966 Місяць тому +4

    Really this here in the times we live in. Jesus is shaking his head 😢

  • @mariebright6985
    @mariebright6985 Місяць тому +2

    Bishop Fernandez is not condoning anyone to smoke or drink. He is just making a valid point about smoking not being mentioned in The Most High's Word. He even went further to confirm Scripture which regards how we are to maintain our bodies, because our bodies are identified as temples by our Creator.
    And I do agree that we must use discretion and wisdom when ministering the Gospel to others.
    But it is very important to note that The Messiah did not remove Himself from presenting His rules to those He ministered The Word to.
    He understood the importance of delivery.
    If we pay attention to how The Messiah moved in The Gospels, we will see that He did not separate Himself from sharing His commandments. He shared His rules through the utilization of wisdom and discretion. And we cannot ignore the fact that He also came on the scene instructing His people to "repent" for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    This alone teaches us that He was not only going to demonstrate His love and kindness to His people, but He was prepared to bring them into the truth by exposing them to His rules (His spiritual laws).
    In Matthew 5 we see The Messiah teaching the beatitudes to His people. These are identified as "blessings" by definition. But they are also real spiritual laws. These blessings are in alignment with the nature of laws, because they help to release light where darkness is present. And that light acts as a form of protection over that soul. When a soul comes into agreement with the light, that soul is coming into agreement to be protected by a true moral structure. Natural laws can also teach us this truth. When we follow the laws, our lives flow much more smoother. And we stay under a protective covering which helps to preserve the value of our life.
    The Messiah understood the importance of delivery. He did not teach His Word without His rules. His rules were able to convict and penetrate hearts because He was very clear and transparent about the love and affection He has for the human soul. His love foreran the ministry of His Word and the rules (commandments) followed through with beautiful surgical procedures that worked the ground of the human soul. His commandments were implemented as seeds. And His love did the watering.
    GOD Bless you all and Shalom and many blessings to you and to your beautiful families.

  • @DeaconHulk
    @DeaconHulk Місяць тому +10

    It'd be the smallest verses that people Overlook to justify what they're doing. Like how about telling the guy that wanted to smoke. RESIST THE devil AND he WILL FLEE. He just literally full-blown encouraged it

    • @bobchris11
      @bobchris11 Місяць тому

      How is smoking or drinking of the devil?

    • @Anonymousreader6105-d4j
      @Anonymousreader6105-d4j Місяць тому +2

      He's not endorsing or condoning, but he is just letting you know that we all have vices, but if you let them control your mind, your attitude and behavior, that's why it's a sin. If a person can do certain things that do not hamper or hinder your salvation or your behavior. But in all things we are to acknowledge him. Some people can drink a whole gallon of liquor and never get drunk or act stupid. Some people go off about food and get mad ready or almost ready to argue and fight. I've gone to work a few times with barbecue in my hand on the bus, and one time this other dude told me and others on that bus, that his oldest niece tried to stab him to death because he took the last barbecue hot link. To act that way over a plate of food, or piece of food is a sin that is one that a person also needs deliverance from.

    • @Anonymousreader6105-d4j
      @Anonymousreader6105-d4j Місяць тому

      @@bobchris11 if let it consume you and makes you evil and/or dishonest.

    • @bobchris11
      @bobchris11 Місяць тому

      @@Anonymousreader6105-d4j@Anonymousreader6105-d4j Perhaps that's the effect it'll have on YOU. Moderation is key

    • @Anonymousreader6105-d4j
      @Anonymousreader6105-d4j Місяць тому

      @@bobchris11 that may be, but I comment to be cordial and not to be little.

  • @garyhutchison99
    @garyhutchison99 Місяць тому +1

    He is right about trying to get sinners to act like Saints. We need to love them in and give them grace to turn from sin. The message is love with accountability.

  • @talldude8894
    @talldude8894 Місяць тому +13

    Cigarettes don't send you to hell .. but it does make you smell like you've been there!

    • @garyhutchison99
      @garyhutchison99 Місяць тому +2

      Nothing sends us to hell. We choose to go there. If we choose smoking over God we will find ourselves in hell.

    • @talldude8894
      @talldude8894 Місяць тому +1

      @@garyhutchison99 hell was created for the devil and his angels. Jesus came to fulfill the law. Believe on him and your saved. Simple as that!

    • @garyhutchison99
      @garyhutchison99 Місяць тому +1

      @@talldude8894 don’t the devils believe and tremble? Are they saved?
      If you take every scripture pertaining to this subject it is clear that the believing part is just the beginning.

    • @talldude8894
      @talldude8894 Місяць тому

      @@garyhutchison99 of course they tremble because Jesus was given a name above all names. That has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the context of the conversation.

    • @talldude8894
      @talldude8894 Місяць тому

      @@garyhutchison99 we are not to fear God as the devil and his angels. Yet have the fear of the Lord. That's a Christianic dogmatic way of thinking Proverbs 9:10

  • @BreezeWithAfrica
    @BreezeWithAfrica Місяць тому +5

    See he had me until he said that… we are to keep our temple holy for our lord is holy…

    • @TheProphet-gc1pt
      @TheProphet-gc1pt Місяць тому

      Well if he lost you on that you were never found. Holiness is right!

    • @BreezeWithAfrica
      @BreezeWithAfrica Місяць тому

      @@TheProphet-gc1pt so you agree with smoking because that’s not holy?

    • @TheProphet-gc1pt
      @TheProphet-gc1pt Місяць тому

      @@BreezeWithAfrica I don't smoke. No, I can't entirely agree with it but smoking ain't sending nobody to hell is my point.

    • @BreezeWithAfrica
      @BreezeWithAfrica Місяць тому +1

      @@TheProphet-gc1pt Thats a lie from the pit of Hell…I wouldn’t want to continue in my old sins smoking is not holy and anything that is not of God will not enter into the kingdom of heaven says the Lord.
      Jesus would have never have smoked and we need to imitate Christ as much as we can..
      .
      “ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”
      ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2‬:‭5‬ ‭KJV‬‬
      “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”
      ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10‬:‭26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    • @theprophet5385
      @theprophet5385 Місяць тому

      ​@@BreezeWithAfricaYou sound like a Pharassie. Question? Do you have any sin in your life right now? Go ahead and make God a lie! So what's the difference than his cigarette and your sin? Let me help you. Nothing! If he don't get in you don't either, if you off and in one point of the law you're guilty of all of them. Salvation is faith in Jesus alone. If we can work our way in them we don't need Jesus. You fail to realize his work. That's why we have a savior. Know your word!

  • @ronaround2897
    @ronaround2897 Місяць тому +1

    Listen to entire sermon, not just a trigger word or phrase.

  • @uabeemployeebiblestudy888
    @uabeemployeebiblestudy888 Місяць тому +2

    At first I thought the title was misleading because he was on point when he was telling about how to deal with those dealing when they have not entered the Kingdom yet. There has to be very meticulous precaution when dealing with people outside the Kingdom and at the time we have to let people be in the state that their in knowing if you continue to bring the gospel God will not allow them to perish because He has sent you to bring them into the Kingdom. Now I have heard this before so many times. The Bible does not talk about the act of smoking but it does talk about the attributes of the thing that is done. Crack and Weed is not in the Bible but the word Witchcraft is which is Pharamkeia which is where we get our word for Pharamacy which during that time that deal with drugs and also drunkeness is in the Bible. Those two things alone show if the activity that you are doing pertains to those two things, then it is a sin. When he said do not defile the temple, let me ask you a question, if you were to walk in your house and you smelled nothing but smoke, would you be comfortable? Possibly if you are accustomed to smoke, but the only smoke that was pleasing to God was the smoke from the altar in the tabernacle and the smoke from the sacrifices to God and then the smoke of the prayers of the saints, anything else was defiling AND DESTROYING THE TEMPLE! Did the pastor forget the number of people who have died of lung cancer from smoking and vaping? It's a destruction of the temple. So we have to be careful of saying things out of context just because it's not in there and because it sounds good. Good on the first half but fell right off track on the second. May God give us enligtenment on the scriptures and cause us to rightly divide. May God bless you all today!

  • @TheWhatever2013
    @TheWhatever2013 Місяць тому +10

    Where is the Bible says it’s not ok to smoke? Smh I don’t like smoking but it’s nowhere in the Bible that says you can’t

    • @sonhg7951
      @sonhg7951 Місяць тому

      1 Peter 1.16

    • @bphilbac
      @bphilbac Місяць тому

      @@TheWhatever2013 It doesn’t.

    • @JustSayin1983
      @JustSayin1983 Місяць тому

      Isn’t it interesting that stuff we were told God explicitly prohibited was never mentioned in scripture (slot machines, smoking, wine with dinner, etc.) and the stuff God explicitly clarified His prohibition on (sexual sin, stinginess, meanness, etc.) we’ve found a way to “by His grace” away in our lives.

    • @garyhutchison99
      @garyhutchison99 Місяць тому +3

      @@TheWhatever2013 it does say we must live holy. Is smoking holy? Where did it come from, man or God?

    • @garyhutchison99
      @garyhutchison99 Місяць тому +2

      @@bphilbac it actually does teach not to smoke, not to do drugs, not to eat things that altar our minds. Be holy as I am holy says God.

  • @Anonymousreader6105-d4j
    @Anonymousreader6105-d4j Місяць тому

    The problem is that, just like anything else, if it is a debilitating vice, it's now a problem. I smoke myself, but I do so because I feel that it keeps me from either weighing 300lbs. or doing something really stupid that can land me in prison or going suicide by cop.

    • @johnniestallings8903
      @johnniestallings8903 Місяць тому

      So instead of weighing 300 lbs you rather burn up your lungs, and kidneys. You mention going to the penitentiary. Smoking keeps you out. Wow! The devil has made a fool out of you. 😂. Talk to your doctor and ask him which one is the worst.

  • @ianthamillien
    @ianthamillien Місяць тому +1

    THIS PASTOR IS PREACHING THE "UNCOMPROMISED" WORD AND THE "LOVE OF GOD"....WHICH IS HOW WE CAN REACH THE UNGODLY. 🙏 ✝️

    • @BreezeWithAfrica
      @BreezeWithAfrica Місяць тому

      That’s not true he is mixing truth with a lie and the Bible says in Hosea 4:6
      “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
      ‭‭Hosea‬ ‭4‬:‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    • @emmahamilton8685
      @emmahamilton8685 Місяць тому

      ​@@BreezeWithAfricaAmen 🙏

    • @KE-zk4kc
      @KE-zk4kc Місяць тому

      Uncompromised? Omg.

  • @kenmosley134
    @kenmosley134 Місяць тому

    It’s amazing how people hear what they want to hear but not what is being actually said. If something is a sin to you, except where the Bible says is a sin, then it’s a sin “to you”. We should also not do something that will cause your brother/sister to stumble.
    “Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭1‬-‭2‬, ‭13‬-‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

  • @gbrew9260
    @gbrew9260 Місяць тому

    Even though I don’t entirely agree with the smoking thing, he is correct in the message he’s trying to convey. He also said the man smoking is still not a believer as of yet. You can’t expect sinners to act as believers, give up their sinful habits and berate them as they are still in their sin. You live right, sow your seeds, and let Jesus do the watering.

  • @jimmydavis4735
    @jimmydavis4735 Місяць тому +5

    The Bible Say We Are Temple Of The Holy Spirit So We Have Decide Whether We're Going To Be a Clean Temple That God Can Use Or Be Polluted Smoke And Alcohol Filled One He Can't Really No Difference From The World .

    • @abrm31222
      @abrm31222 Місяць тому +1

      Brother Jimmy, you may not smoke or drink but I assure you , if you're human you too have some struggles, or habits you need to give up, receive this with love❤🎉🙏

    • @jimmydavis4735
      @jimmydavis4735 Місяць тому

      @@abrm31222 Exactly We All Do But It's Still Not a License To Sin Even We May Fall Short You Still Reach To Go Higher To Overcome.

    • @shenquejames7598
      @shenquejames7598 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jimmydavis4735 He is not giving a license to sin. He is teaching that it's alot not listed in the bible directly that we struggle with and that God will accept you and change you over time.

    • @Raq-774
      @Raq-774 Місяць тому

      The Bible does teach that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost. So what about gluttony? The Bible doesn't teach against smoking, but it does teach about gluttony, lots of us our guilty of it.

  • @texrex3
    @texrex3 Місяць тому

    We make so many trivial things salvation based. But again problem 1 is the ignorant congregant. It always spawns problem 2, the heretic..

  • @gregoryadams7538
    @gregoryadams7538 Місяць тому

    Romans 7:5 discusses the "motions of sins" of which smoking, drinking and doing drugs, fornication, etc. would include. Love the Bishop though.

  • @Tracey1sWorthy
    @Tracey1sWorthy Місяць тому +1

    Is smoking edifying to your spiritual life? Paul states all things are lawful but not all things are constructive.

  • @jumbojimbo3601
    @jumbojimbo3601 Місяць тому

    So now the Bishop is drinking and smoking 😢😢😢

  • @DavidYisrael-u7m
    @DavidYisrael-u7m Місяць тому

    The bible says to be sober! Many take that to saying no to alcohol, especially when it says drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God!
    While it surely says thou shalt not smoke cigarettes it just seems like tge right thing because cigarettes stank.

  • @SheLoveSports
    @SheLoveSports Місяць тому

    I disagree with his understanding and interpretations. First, I agree with him that we cannot expect unconverted people to behave like those who have been translated to the Kingdom of God. However, if an unconverted person respects the Holy Spirit in you enough to refrain from committing an offense (or sin) in your presence, then you should never give them permission to do so. They are looking to those of us who are spiritual for guidance. Effectively, he just condoned and encouraged that behavior.
    Second, while the Bible does not explicitly say "Do not smoke", there are spiritual principles in the Scripture that clearly condemn smoking. He addresses the the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (and I agree with him that many believers abuse their temple). But there is also the principle that the works of the flesh includes witchcraft. The Greek word is pharmakeia and it means medicine, drugs. We know that witchcraft is always about controlling the person. So, the smoker obviously had an addiction that was controlling him.
    Third, the bible tells us not to be partakers in another man's sin (1 Tim. 5:22).

  • @tonyramos1204
    @tonyramos1204 Місяць тому

    I agree that there technically no scripture that says not to smoke however there is technically no scripture when God the Son took on flesh where it was written of Him saying something directly about homosexuality. We obviously know Jesus was against it through his endorsement of marriage between man and woman however this is what we call a logical fallacy brothers and sisters. It seems on surface that brother Fernandez is a man of God (I really don't know too much about him) but I don't really see him persuading anyone who's saved to smoke. The people of the world gonna do what they gonna do so we'll meet them where they at so it is what it is. Im just advising you children of God be very careful in your word selection when you say things. God bless you all! 🙂

  • @c-lomx9008
    @c-lomx9008 Місяць тому

    He is telling the truth, but the people complaining about it is the biggest gluttors you ever find, and their conversation is corrupt. You might not be cussing but you lieing and you gossiping and you are talebearers. We don't judge people meat and drink, just set a good example before all men.

  • @CharlotteGadson
    @CharlotteGadson Місяць тому

    You being a new creature or creation in Christ Jesus OLD things have have past away or old things you are delivered of and All Things have become new. 2 CORINTHIANS 5:17
    Biblical text and All.
    Please everyone stand for righteousness. These are not rules this is GODLY living.

  • @DaeDae1124
    @DaeDae1124 Місяць тому

    Why do people smoke sir??

  • @emellhope7031
    @emellhope7031 Місяць тому

    The Bible does speak against Christians smoking, doing drugs, etc in Gal 5:20. It’s called sorcery(Gk:pharmakeia). I won’t speak against this sermon bc I didn’t see the whole thing in context. But I will say that we adhere as people to everything else. When we start a new job we adhere to rules on smoking, drinking, clothing/uniforms standards and all. But when we get saved and go to church, preachers (not necessarily those who get saved) and parishioners are the ones who are quick to say they don’t need to change anything, instead of showing them the new life, new way of walking and talking in Christ.

    • @emellhope7031
      @emellhope7031 Місяць тому

      Pharmakeia is where we get the English word for pharmaceuticals, drugs, mind altering substances etc.

  • @bphilbac
    @bphilbac Місяць тому +3

    He’s telling the truth. Read and understand your Bible. Too many legalistic people and preachers trying to send people to hell. The same thing Jesus accused the Pharisees of doing.

    • @NathanAHogan
      @NathanAHogan Місяць тому +2

      Too many deceived people and saints trying to send people to Heaven as well. Jesus also said "FEW THERE WILL BE" that will go to Heaven.

    • @bphilbac
      @bphilbac Місяць тому

      @@NathanAHogan Agree

    • @naturegaze5667
      @naturegaze5667 Місяць тому

      ​@NathanAHogan How is your diet? Do you only eat organic foods? Do you consume sugar, caffeine, or eat fast foods? Do you take prescription medication other than life sustaining meds? Do you go to the doctor when you're sick or do you pray? Are you overweight or have health issues caused by an improper diet? All those things I mentioned are sins as well and in the same exact boat with smokers. Being overweight is a SIN! GLUTTONY is a sin - its cleary written in the Bible. You know what's not in the Bible? Smoking! So the point here is before you try to take the speck out of my eye, get the plank out of yours. If smokers are going to hell so are fat people.

    • @bphilbac
      @bphilbac Місяць тому

      @@naturegaze5667 Read Romans 14

    • @naturegaze5667
      @naturegaze5667 Місяць тому

      @bphilbac Please don't misuse scripture just to try to prove your point. If cigarettes send people to hell, so does eating junk food and taking non life sustaining medications. Now, perhaps there is some confusion in the comments.... I'm responding to someone saying cigarettes are a sin....if cigarettes are a sin, then so are the things I mentioned. Not sure the point you're trying to make. I really hope it's not that you can just eat anything you want to....as in eating junk food and overeating because that's clearly a sin. Romans 14 does not negate the fact that being fat is a sin.

  • @maryevans453
    @maryevans453 Місяць тому

    Surgeon General has more sense, smoking is carcinogenic ‼️False prophet 🥵

  • @BW-zv6xp
    @BW-zv6xp Місяць тому

    He sounds like the unsaved version of Dr. Myles Munroe

  • @damienbarber2588
    @damienbarber2588 Місяць тому

    Ain’t nothing in the Bible that says don’t do cocaine

  • @hollingsworthjuan
    @hollingsworthjuan Місяць тому

    Baptist do it anyway

  • @abrm31222
    @abrm31222 Місяць тому +2

    8:23 Bishop Fernandez allowed that man to be himself, without finding fault during their conversation. I see or hear nothing wrong with this message. Even the Apostle Paul spend time with the unsaved Jews in efforts to save some.. I believe it is the intent of the Bishop and not necessarily to encourage this man to defile himself. 1 Corinthians 9:20 -22

  • @rapmeister1000
    @rapmeister1000 Місяць тому +2

    Now let me explain why his theology is severely flawed. Using an argument based upon nothing more than what the Bible does not expressly forbid/condemn, as justification for committing certain acts; will fail every time. The Bible doesn’t expressly forbid/condemn driving your car into a brick wall at 100 mph, but common sense dictates that it’s not a smart thing to do. So demanding a passage say “Thou shalt not smoke” is absolute foolishness.
    1 Corinthians 6:19
    Do you not know that your body is the temple (the very sanctuary) of the Holy Spirit Who lives within you, Whom you have received [as a Gift] from God? You are not your own,
    Smoking introduces the body to exposure to toxic chemicals. Are we going to say that it’s ok to fill our bodies with toxic chemicals in favor of what this “bishop” is saying? It’s not so much what he says, as is the way he’s saying it that makes it dangerous.

  • @nealwhite2648
    @nealwhite2648 Місяць тому +3

    Another false teacher!

    • @abrm31222
      @abrm31222 Місяць тому

      No Neal, not true, I invite you to listen to the message again. Be blessed bro. 🎉❤🙏

    • @emmahamilton8685
      @emmahamilton8685 Місяць тому

      Amen. Mixing truth and error.