Kapiti Island is a bird sanctuary. You can take boat trips over there and walk right to the highest peak. There are some people that live at the northern most end. It is overseen by the Department of Conservation. The road along side the track and the sea used to be State Highway 1 until Transmission Gully opened. T.G. is now S.H 1 and the road along the coast is now highway 59. You did that trip on a lovely day with the clear sky. It was low tide as well because those rocks along the coast are covered at high tide, and in rough weather the water can go over the road.
Amazing train review, I remember traversing the same last stretch of railway on the Norther Explorer coming into Wellington last year. It's some absolutely stunning coast line down there on the Kapiti coast especially at sunset!
Wellington train driver here. The third track at Porirua isn't for express services, all the express trains stop at Porirua. It's not exactly clear why that loop is electrified since we never use it, but in theory we could run around a disabled train there.
When I was a kid Paekakariki was the terminus for electric trains.I remember the old steam locomotives which were still used in the early 1960s.That closed station [MURI] was open at that time and I used it to go to Kapiti college.[you had to take a bus to finish the journey to Paraparaumu.] The electrified line was extended to Waikanae decades later.
I always find public transport in the Wellington to be very useable, with frequent bus and train services serving the whole region. Also have used the Capital Connection from and to Palmerston North and also several times gone to Masterton on the very good service to that town via the Hutt Valley. I grew up in the UK, so am very used to good public transport.
I used to live in Toronto where your commute on the subway can take an hour the entire time underground, and 4500 people fit on a train, and trains run every three minutes and they move millions of people daily. I now live on this line by comparison this is heaven on earth
The Palmerston North express is a commuter train for people who live in P.N. and work in Wellington that's why it only runs once a day, early morning and return at night. I would not do it, too long a day, although I have heard that people sleep on their trip to Wellington!!!!!
Bro this is hilarious. I only really watch videos about anime and gaming stuff so i'm shocked a video about wellington came into my recommendeds lmao. Kinda wild to see people even make videos about the transport i take daily but hey i guess you can find anything on the internet lol.
My favourite line. 46:20 I have ridden my bike along the coast going north before, It's only slightly terrifying 48:31 It's named after the coastline that it goes to, Kapiti Coast. Also Kapiti Island 52:08 Double yellow line works the same as Australia's double white line, no passing. 52:20 Yes, when there's no restrictions the trains can go up to about 100km/h (sometimes 110 even if they're not supposed to). 59:41 I'm pretty sure one side of the car says FT and the other says FP, that's all I know 1:02:39 Yeah New Zealand runs on common sense
Re NZ running on common sense, new crossings being installed or upgraded (e.g. Tawa College) get pedestrian gates. Ngaio station has a completely uncontrolled (no lights, no barriers) crossing at the end of the platforms. It's not too bad because all trains stop. I've been meaning to get some footage.
Also, FP/FT 4xxx are the original batch of 48 sets. 5xxx are the top-up order of another 35 sets, which were I think fitted with upgrades like Scharfenberg couplers from the factory, plus some tweaks to improve performance on the JVille line. You'll only find 5xxx sets on the JVille line. The last digit on all the NZ TMS numbers (including freight locos) is a check digit, so you won't find e.g. both an FP4443 and FP4444. There is a DC4444 locomotive, though.
Yes, but the bus to Kenepuru hospital leaves directly from Porirua station, whereas it's a reasonable walk uphill from Kenepuru station to the hospital including crossing the river and a major road. . I think they assume that some of the people using public transport are going to be mobility impaired so saying to use Porirua and the bus is easier.
The way you pronounce Paraparaumu, is you basically have to be able to Roll your 'R's, and the 'A's are said as "Ah", other than that you got it pretty much right my bro, Cheers for driving our line and yea its bad public transport lmao.
Great video, used to travel this line every day, its not changed much. Its called the "Kapiti" line because of Kapiti Island, which is a bird sanctuary, not a "random uninhabited island" and is inhabited at the northern end. The place names weren't given by "children" but by the Maori people, and they all have meaning. Paekakariki means "resting place of the green parrot" for example.
@@escellesmith1665 I know of course they have meaning I was just saying they sound very different. I didn't know about the island I just took a quick look on Google Maps and it wasn't labelled as anything. Sorry for my lack of knowledge it was my first time there and I was learning everything as I went. Thanks for watching though.
@@TransportofPerth another bit of interest for you, between Pukerua Bay and Paekakariki it goes into one line only as those 5 tunnels were chipped out from solid rock, before modern machinery. The Transport authorities looked at increasing it to two lines many years ago but decided that the cost would be too much, bearing in mind the State Highway ran at the bottom of the hill - hence its just one line. I travelled this line every day to college and many times had to wait for an oncoming train to go through the tunnels before we could proceed. In those days the terminus was Paekakariki as the line hadn't been electrified past there, that's why it was such a big station and all those railway yards and train museum is at Paekakariki - the end of the line. 🙂
@@Ducky_man931 Yeah but this was the middle of the day and all other trains except this one were two cars. Plus my one was 8 but 2 were just not being used which is quite strange.
@@TransportofPerth 2 being not used is the normal, I'm not sure if this was a special service or something but during the middle of the day it is only about 2-4 carrigages, the two not being used is for when they transfer to peak services
@@TransportofPerth new Zealanders aka kiwis are dumb and would press the open door button to the closed part, then take too much time to find out how to get on the train then they miss the train!
Metlink does seem to have a bit of a problem with figuring out how many carriages to run. They've been lambasted a few times for failing to notice e.g. sporting events, fireworks displays, and major protest marches. In this case, though, they don't like to couple trains at the platforms if they can avoid it. This one will have arrived right at peak time and they will have sent it back out immediately as a fully-loaded 8-car. It also probably saw a bit of school traffic on the way back in. Night services returning to the city tend to be large trains (because they're returning peak trains) but very empty (opposite direction of peak; perhaps 10x pax). Typically they only have one unit open. In the days of the old Ganz sets, the guards could open doors together or individually (no passenger buttons) so would only open the leading door in the whole set, so everyone is in the first car. This also means they don't have to walk the whole length of the train to collect tickets, and everyone is line-of-sight to the guard, so there's less vandalism concern.
@TransportofPerth probably the "child made up these names" comment. They're all Te Reo Māori words that contain a lot of descriptive meaning about the surrounding area.
@@TransportofPerth I would agree that to the uninitiated ear, some of the Maori place names would sound a bit funny or weird. However, the same could be said for some of the Aboriginal town and city names in Australia (e.g. Woolloomoolloo, Wagga Wagga and so on). I guess they don't seem so unusual or strange when you grow up with them. That aside, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. For the first ten years of my life, Linden was my home station. Back in the late 1970s though, English Electrics ruled the lines, and then the Hungarian Ganz-Mavag units came in from about the early 1980s. The signage on the platforms was quite different too. The station names would be in big black block letters on a white background. While those signs were quite "old school" (probably dating back to the 1930s or even earlier) and rather ugly, they were much easier to read from inside a train than the modern ones IMO.
Kapiti Island is a bird sanctuary. You can take boat trips over there and walk right to the highest peak. There are some people that live at the northern most end. It is overseen by the Department of Conservation.
The road along side the track and the sea used to be State Highway 1 until Transmission Gully opened. T.G. is now S.H 1 and the road along the coast is now highway 59.
You did that trip on a lovely day with the clear sky. It was low tide as well because those rocks along the coast are covered at high tide, and in rough weather the water can go over the road.
Amazing train review, I remember traversing the same last stretch of railway on the Norther Explorer coming into Wellington last year. It's some absolutely stunning coast line down there on the Kapiti coast especially at sunset!
Wellington train driver here. The third track at Porirua isn't for express services, all the express trains stop at Porirua. It's not exactly clear why that loop is electrified since we never use it, but in theory we could run around a disabled train there.
Oh, ok then
whats it like being a train driver at metlink?
When I was a kid Paekakariki was the terminus for electric trains.I remember the old steam locomotives which were still used in the early 1960s.That closed station [MURI] was open at that time and I used it to go to Kapiti college.[you had to take a bus to finish the journey to Paraparaumu.] The electrified line was extended to Waikanae decades later.
I always find public transport in the Wellington to be very useable, with frequent bus and train services serving the whole region. Also have used the Capital Connection from and to Palmerston North and also several times gone to Masterton on the very good service to that town via the Hutt Valley.
I grew up in the UK, so am very used to good public transport.
But axing the trolleybus was evil
Imagine doing this trip twice a day, five days a week - It did my head in. But I read a lot !
Wow
I used to live in Toronto where your commute on the subway can take an hour the entire time underground, and 4500 people fit on a train, and trains run every three minutes and they move millions of people daily. I now live on this line by comparison this is heaven on earth
I'm currently living the dream of daily commute from Paraparaumu to Wellington and back. It's an awesome way to catch up on one's sleep.
There’s ongoing talk to extend the electrification to Ōtaki or even Levin, so perhaps next time you come it’ll be a 1.5 hour run.
Waikanae is pronounced "Why-can-eye'
the most scenic commuter train line in Australasia
I agree
It must be weird to see very crowded 2 cars on the other track while you were cruising on a long 8 car train.
I believe your train had so many carriages because on its return journey the rush hour(s) would have begun, so more capicity needed.
The Palmerston North express is a commuter train for people who live in P.N. and work in Wellington that's why it only runs once a day, early morning and return at night. I would not do it, too long a day, although I have heard that people sleep on their trip to Wellington!!!!!
Bless the ticket lady quibbling about getting you the best deal on the fares while you just wanted to film. 😂🙏
Lol yeah
That’s a fab trip I can’t see why you like it We have a similar coastline section in south Devon you would like Exeter to Dawlish
Good point, I have had the privilege of using both having lived in Teignbridge and Kapati.
You looked on the wrong side going around Pukerua Bay. You should have shown the coast there. I think it is the most scenic part of the whole ride.
Bro this is hilarious. I only really watch videos about anime and gaming stuff so i'm shocked a video about wellington came into my recommendeds lmao.
Kinda wild to see people even make videos about the transport i take daily but hey i guess you can find anything on the internet lol.
My favourite line.
46:20 I have ridden my bike along the coast going north before, It's only slightly terrifying
48:31 It's named after the coastline that it goes to, Kapiti Coast. Also Kapiti Island
52:08 Double yellow line works the same as Australia's double white line, no passing.
52:20 Yes, when there's no restrictions the trains can go up to about 100km/h (sometimes 110 even if they're not supposed to).
59:41 I'm pretty sure one side of the car says FT and the other says FP, that's all I know
1:02:39 Yeah New Zealand runs on common sense
The trains consist of FP and FT cars. FP are power cars with electric motors, FT are trailer cars.
Re NZ running on common sense, new crossings being installed or upgraded (e.g. Tawa College) get pedestrian gates.
Ngaio station has a completely uncontrolled (no lights, no barriers) crossing at the end of the platforms. It's not too bad because all trains stop. I've been meaning to get some footage.
I think all those house with the same colour roof were a retirement village.
And the buses are small, but they're never full.
It's called the Kapiti Line because the area is the Kapiti Cosst
Yes I know that, it's the first line of the description.
59:41 - The trains consist of FP and FT cars. FP are power cars with electric motors, FT are trailer cars.
Also, FP/FT 4xxx are the original batch of 48 sets. 5xxx are the top-up order of another 35 sets, which were I think fitted with upgrades like Scharfenberg couplers from the factory, plus some tweaks to improve performance on the JVille line. You'll only find 5xxx sets on the JVille line.
The last digit on all the NZ TMS numbers (including freight locos) is a check digit, so you won't find e.g. both an FP4443 and FP4444. There is a DC4444 locomotive, though.
The hospital is in Kenepuru, not Porirua. The Regional Hospital is in Newtown.
Yes, but the bus to Kenepuru hospital leaves directly from Porirua station, whereas it's a reasonable walk uphill from Kenepuru station to the hospital including crossing the river and a major road. . I think they assume that some of the people using public transport are going to be mobility impaired so saying to use Porirua and the bus is easier.
The way you pronounce Paraparaumu, is you basically have to be able to Roll your 'R's, and the 'A's are said as "Ah", other than that you got it pretty much right my bro, Cheers for driving our line and yea its bad public transport lmao.
Great video, used to travel this line every day, its not changed much. Its called the "Kapiti" line because of Kapiti Island, which is a bird sanctuary, not a "random uninhabited island" and is inhabited at the northern end. The place names weren't given by "children" but by the Maori people, and they all have meaning. Paekakariki means "resting place of the green parrot" for example.
@@escellesmith1665 I know of course they have meaning I was just saying they sound very different. I didn't know about the island I just took a quick look on Google Maps and it wasn't labelled as anything. Sorry for my lack of knowledge it was my first time there and I was learning everything as I went. Thanks for watching though.
@@TransportofPerth another bit of interest for you, between Pukerua Bay and Paekakariki it goes into one line only as those 5 tunnels were chipped out from solid rock, before modern machinery. The Transport authorities looked at increasing it to two lines many years ago but decided that the cost would be too much, bearing in mind the State Highway ran at the bottom of the hill - hence its just one line. I travelled this line every day to college and many times had to wait for an oncoming train to go through the tunnels before we could proceed. In those days the terminus was Paekakariki as the line hadn't been electrified past there, that's why it was such a big station and all those railway yards and train museum is at Paekakariki - the end of the line. 🙂
Hi I like your video
Thanks!
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These station names... geez
What would you expect in another city?
Maori names
peak times; 6-4 carriages, off-peak 2 carrigages
@@Ducky_man931 Yeah but this was the middle of the day and all other trains except this one were two cars. Plus my one was 8 but 2 were just not being used which is quite strange.
@@TransportofPerth 2 being not used is the normal, I'm not sure if this was a special service or something but during the middle of the day it is only about 2-4 carrigages, the two not being used is for when they transfer to peak services
@@Ducky_man931 Why would they haul around extra carriages but not open them up 😭
@@TransportofPerth new Zealanders aka kiwis are dumb and would press the open door button to the closed part, then take too much time to find out how to get on the train then they miss the train!
Metlink does seem to have a bit of a problem with figuring out how many carriages to run. They've been lambasted a few times for failing to notice e.g. sporting events, fireworks displays, and major protest marches.
In this case, though, they don't like to couple trains at the platforms if they can avoid it. This one will have arrived right at peak time and they will have sent it back out immediately as a fully-loaded 8-car. It also probably saw a bit of school traffic on the way back in.
Night services returning to the city tend to be large trains (because they're returning peak trains) but very empty (opposite direction of peak; perhaps 10x pax). Typically they only have one unit open. In the days of the old Ganz sets, the guards could open doors together or individually (no passenger buttons) so would only open the leading door in the whole set, so everyone is in the first car. This also means they don't have to walk the whole length of the train to collect tickets, and everyone is line-of-sight to the guard, so there's less vandalism concern.
lets go
of the door
they just skip the video
jus gonna ignore the slight racisim
What racism?
@TransportofPerth probably the "child made up these names" comment. They're all Te Reo Māori words that contain a lot of descriptive meaning about the surrounding area.
@@gazzamuso Oh yeah sorry about that. It was just funny how weird it was to say some of the words. I have nothing against it though.
What can make Māori names seem longer is because a noun is repeated to designate a plural.
@@TransportofPerth I would agree that to the uninitiated ear, some of the Maori place names would sound a bit funny or weird. However, the same could be said for some of the Aboriginal town and city names in Australia (e.g. Woolloomoolloo, Wagga Wagga and so on). I guess they don't seem so unusual or strange when you grow up with them.
That aside, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. For the first ten years of my life, Linden was my home station. Back in the late 1970s though, English Electrics ruled the lines, and then the Hungarian Ganz-Mavag units came in from about the early 1980s. The signage on the platforms was quite different too. The station names would be in big black block letters on a white background. While those signs were quite "old school" (probably dating back to the 1930s or even earlier) and rather ugly, they were much easier to read from inside a train than the modern ones IMO.